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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast am on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And we're back. George Noriy with you. Mark Christopher Nelson

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Speaker 2: with us. Gifted psychic medium, well versed in his psychometry

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Speaker 2: skills and abilities to crossover spirits. Mark has appeared on

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Speaker 2: ABC's twenty twenty sci Fi's Ghost Hunters and Paranormal Witness,

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Speaker 2: the Travel Channels, Ghost Adventures, and much more. Mark, welcome back.

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Speaker 2: How've you ben, George?

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Speaker 3: It's good. I'm good. I saw you in North Carolina

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Speaker 3: and life is good. I'm keeping pretty busy and it

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Speaker 3: seems like you are too, my friend.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so far, so good. Hey, the Dalai Lama said

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Speaker 2: today that he plans to reincarnate. What do you think

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Speaker 2: of that?

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Speaker 3: Well, I look forward to meeting him again.

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Speaker 2: How did you get your abilities?

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Speaker 3: George? It's snuck up on me. I was a little

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Speaker 3: kid mining my own business, and then I started to

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Speaker 3: see people started to I mean it really started. It

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Speaker 3: started with an in truth of tragedy. My dad died

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Speaker 3: very suddenly when I was eleven and I was minding

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Speaker 3: my own business working. My mom said, go rakee some leaves.

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Speaker 3: So I went and raked some leaves. In the front

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Speaker 3: yard we used to live in New Jersey, and all

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Speaker 3: of a sudden I turned around. I felt like someone's

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Speaker 3: looking at me and it was my dad. And this

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Speaker 3: is like a month after his funeral. And the message

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Speaker 3: he had for me is I just I'm okay and

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Speaker 3: you will be too.

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Speaker 2: That it must have been tough, though, well it was.

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Speaker 3: It was pretty shocking, but you know what, I'm become

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Speaker 3: used to this. My dad and my stepdad both show

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Speaker 3: up for me in spirit, and they were good advisors

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Speaker 3: on in life, and they're good from the other side

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Speaker 3: as well. They're all alive, just different.

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Speaker 2: Would you say, Mark, with this episode with your father,

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Speaker 2: it enhanced your psychic skills.

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Speaker 3: It flipped it on like an on switched bang. It's

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Speaker 3: like I used to be called little little daydreaming kid.

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Speaker 3: It's like, why can't Mark focus in class? What's his problem? Well?

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Speaker 3: I was probably looking at six different things that other

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Speaker 3: people weren't, which is how I think it started. I

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Speaker 3: was just a daydreamer. And then no, I wasn't daydreaming.

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Speaker 3: I was looking. I was seeing.

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Speaker 2: Did you tell people at that young age that you

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Speaker 2: had these abilities?

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Speaker 3: No, I really didn't. I mean I was afraid of them.

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Speaker 3: So it was like I must that night. I really

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Speaker 3: the first time it happened, I thought, I'm losing my mind.

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Speaker 3: How can an eleven year old lose his mind? And

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Speaker 3: so I kept it to myself. But then as an adult,

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Speaker 3: I went back and I told my mom about things,

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Speaker 3: and that made sense to her that I had certain

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Speaker 3: unusual experiences.

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Speaker 2: How many television shows have you been on?

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Speaker 3: Now? Mark all of them? No? No, I was very

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Speaker 3: I was very fortunate. I haunted History and then Ghost Adventurers,

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Speaker 3: ghost Hunters. I actually did a little bit of like

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Speaker 3: a bird dogging for them. They wanted me to know.

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Speaker 3: They wanted to know if a place had something happening,

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Speaker 3: and it really did, and I can't think of I mean,

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Speaker 3: then there's pilots. I did a pilot for Fox TV.

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Speaker 3: It was a psychic challenge and excuse me, and it

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Speaker 3: was called Gifted And I answered a cattle call for

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Speaker 3: like three hundred psychic mediums, and boy, it wasn't that

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Speaker 3: an interesting group to be among? And so we had

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Speaker 3: three hundred of us and then I went through a

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Speaker 3: series of interviews and did a series of readings until

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Speaker 3: I was down to the six that made the show

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Speaker 3: and then it was named Most Gifted. It was quite

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Speaker 2: How do you weed out the psychics and mediums? Marked

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Speaker 2: to know that the legit ones from the not so legit.

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Speaker 3: Well, the first thing I noticed is if I see

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Speaker 3: someone wearing a turban with a big blue rock on

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Speaker 3: the front, I usually kind of dismiss those guys. No,

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm kidding, But I mean I find that the

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Speaker 3: I listen to what they're saying. I try to. I mean,

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Speaker 3: But I try to listen to and pay attention to

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Speaker 3: how I feel when I'm dealing with them, and if

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Speaker 2: Mark. Well, would you say your expertise is.

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Speaker 3: Well, I've I'm pretty good at psychometry, which is a

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Speaker 3: I'm you still live in LA I'm now in North Carolina.

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Speaker 3: People would mail me things or they bring objects to

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Speaker 3: readings and say, can you hold this watch? Can you

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Speaker 3: So that was kind of a unique thing I did.

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Speaker 3: But I take my readings are part mediumship and part

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Speaker 3: psychic because I can see what's coming down the road.

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Speaker 3: But very often people and spiritual show up and they

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Speaker 3: them for not only their purpose but the client. What

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Speaker 3: I find is that I believe it's absolutely true. Consciousness

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Speaker 3: survives the body. Consciousness survives the body. And what that

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Speaker 3: means is that your mom, your brother, whoever, just your sister,

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Speaker 3: whoever passed, still cares about you. They still want to

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Speaker 3: be there for you in tough times. They want you

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Speaker 3: to know that they're still conscious and that they love you.

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Speaker 3: So it's been really great road.

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Speaker 2: Are most people scared of the afterlife mark?

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Speaker 3: I think so, I mean I've got I mean, they

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Speaker 3: think it's you know, once this world here is done,

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Speaker 3: tell you it's like we've done. My wife, Barbara and

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Speaker 3: I have actually done a number of paranormal investigations and

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Speaker 3: so we've actually helped clear homes and so this and

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Speaker 3: these are very credible people. These are that that are

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Speaker 3: experiencing things that you wouldn't you know, expect. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's like someone's trying to sell a house. Worked with

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Speaker 3: a lovely friend, Cindy Hagley, and she has had an

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Speaker 3: issue where people will show up, they go to sell

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Speaker 3: homes with Barbara to see who is who's there and

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Speaker 3: why are they there? You know, if consciousness survives the body,

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Speaker 3: that means that there are people making just as like you,

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Speaker 3: feel like I've become a ghost or a spirit psychologist.

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Speaker 3: So it's really interesting.

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Speaker 2: Are you more psychically inclined or more of a medium ship?

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Speaker 3: Jeez? I almost feel like I'm a floor wax and

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Speaker 3: have a friend who's like all medium and she comes

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Speaker 3: to me for psychic work. But then again, I'm doing

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Speaker 3: the reading and it's like, Okay, it's your mother that's

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Speaker 3: So I don't know that I need to say I'm

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Speaker 2: Do you need to continue to tune yourself up? Mark?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean you know what's fun is like

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Speaker 3: Actually I look at like going into a home with history.

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Speaker 3: It's like the main thing I do is I love

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Speaker 3: I'll go with other paranormal groups and will bump We'll

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Speaker 3: But I stay tuned up that. And also to George Meditating,

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Speaker 3: Then I realized, okay, this is useful, but I don't

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Speaker 3: it's almost like going out and playing tennis with people

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Speaker 3: They see me once a month, once every six months.

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Speaker 3: It's it's almost like it causes me to look past

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Speaker 3: anything I thought I knew but I and it pushes me.

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Speaker 3: Also that said, it's like I feel like readings come

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Speaker 3: People are always saying, and you told me this, and

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Speaker 3: I'm glad it mattered. You know, I don't know, I

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Speaker 3: really the idea of being a channel is real. And

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Speaker 3: then with that, I let the information come. And if

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Speaker 3: think my head would explode.

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Speaker 2: You're a little like Edgar Casey.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm so admired, and in fact, I've learned from

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Speaker 3: people from his organization. I have people I call my

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Speaker 3: spiritual parents that were very much experts on Edgar Casey.

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Speaker 3: So the idea that I can do medical intuitive it

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Speaker 3: happens it comes the ironic thing Georgie's I've worked as

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Speaker 3: having this medical language at my fingertips has been very

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Speaker 3: useful when I go to do readings for people related

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Speaker 3: me over the years, being able to listen, hear what

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Speaker 3: they have and then make a suggestion. I also say too,

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Speaker 3: it's like, I'm not a doctor, I don't pretend to

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Speaker 3: be a doctor, but these are the messages I'm getting.

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Speaker 3: this dovetails with their diagnosis, or use it as a

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Speaker 2: When you tap into this, who's passing the information onto

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Speaker 2: you or what is doing?

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, that can vary. I have my own guides,

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Speaker 2: Since all this has been happening to you, what has

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Speaker 3: How it was? And then what was funny? How I

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Speaker 3: I've been married for over thirty years. We come home

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Speaker 3: so this isn't all me. This is a barbers as

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