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Speaker 1: Natively in Pod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership

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Speaker 1: with Reason Choice Media.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.

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Speaker 3: Welcome, Welcome, Hey, Angela, Tiffany, and Andrew. My name is

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Speaker 3: Dev Myers, and I have a question.

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Speaker 4: This question has.

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Speaker 3: Been on my mind for some time now, but you know,

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Speaker 3: it's definitely come to the forefront due to this new

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Speaker 3: administration and just continued reminders that this the system that

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Speaker 3: we built was not made for us, even though we

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Speaker 3: put in the work. My question is, should we as

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Speaker 3: black people come together and make a collective effort to

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Speaker 3: try and establish a majority in a state. I think

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Speaker 3: that the reason why this question is even coming up

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Speaker 3: for me is that, you know, we did really well

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Speaker 3: in are you know, local spaces, whether it's city council,

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Speaker 3: mayor but those powers are pretty limited. While it it's

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Speaker 3: a good thing that we're doing that, right, I think

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Speaker 3: we should really think about us as black people securing

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Speaker 3: a majority in a state because it does come with

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Speaker 3: a lot of power, right, even more even so dwindling

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Speaker 3: or limiting the harmful effects of oppressive policies from the

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Speaker 3: federal government. So I just want to ask you, it's

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Speaker 3: just something that you guys think we should discuss as leaders?

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Speaker 3: Should this be on the table?

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Welcome home y'all to the mini pod.

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Speaker 1: We had Dev Meyers, our viewer, kick us off with

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Speaker 1: a poigt question. So if you heard this week's podcast,

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Speaker 1: you heard us talk about who exactly are our leaders?

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Speaker 1: It came up organically and Angela said we should do

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Speaker 1: our minipod on that. So I thought no better time

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Speaker 1: than to do this now and to have one of

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Speaker 1: our viewer questions kick off the conversation. I got to say,

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Speaker 1: Angela Andrew, I love this question. The interesting thing is

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Speaker 1: we we there is no states where black people are

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Speaker 1: the majority, but there are states where people of color

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Speaker 1: make up the majority. They call them majority minority states.

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Speaker 1: But it does speak to because let's say, okay, we

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Speaker 1: build a little Wakanda right here in America. Who are

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Speaker 1: we electing president as this Wakanda? Who is our Wakandan cabinet?

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Speaker 1: So I don't really have an answer. I have thoughts

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Speaker 1: about us being a leaderless community, but I want to

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Speaker 1: hear from the president and the chief staff of the Blacks,

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Speaker 1: Angela Raie, and what she got to say about it.

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Speaker 5: A nice try. Negro This was on you because in

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Speaker 5: the last podcast you said who are our leaders? So

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Speaker 5: I was like, oh, Tip, I want to know who

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Speaker 5: you say the leaders are.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 1: I cannot think of somebody who I would say this

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Speaker 1: reason why Angela and I'm Andrews because when we look

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Speaker 1: at the civil rights movement, right we could name, you know, there,

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Speaker 1: I would say probably twenty leaders that we could say

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Speaker 1: were the people who were leading movements.

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Speaker 2: I think as our.

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Speaker 1: Rights expanded and now they're shrinking as we built wealth

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Speaker 1: amongst ourselves that later was stolen the cycle we go on,

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Speaker 1: our interests disaggregated, and social media democratized who has a voice.

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Speaker 1: So then everyone became leaders in their own right, and

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Speaker 1: some people became so seduced by the idea of being

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Speaker 1: a leader but not actually building change.

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Speaker 2: So I think we're at this moment.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a single person who should

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Speaker 1: wear the crown and take on that responsibility. I think

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Speaker 1: there are people who lead different things. I think Latasha

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Speaker 1: cabinet position of you got to go out and mobilize

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Speaker 1: would say, Tasha, is that just because the mainstream outlets don't,

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Speaker 1: you know, profile her on sixty minutes, you all should know,

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Speaker 1: like the work that she has done tirelessly for decades,

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Speaker 1: she is a You cannot tell the story of America

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Speaker 1: without telling without involving Natasha Brown in that.

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Speaker 2: So I say she's a leader. I think you guys

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Speaker 2: are leaders.

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Speaker 1: We talked in the main podcast about Andrew founding Yeo

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Speaker 1: Young elected officials that you know. I think that cast

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Speaker 1: a wide net of influence across our local politics. Angela,

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Speaker 1: I've written about you. I have the pleasure of being

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Speaker 1: your friend for a couple of decades. But I think

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Speaker 1: you changed the way I know you've done a lot more.

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Speaker 1: I'm just talking about in media. You changed the way

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Speaker 1: see themselves reflected. I think you added significant ratings to

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Speaker 1: That was the cake that you gave them so they

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Speaker 1: and so plain, and because you weren't for the bullshit

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Speaker 1: when you were sitting across from people, so that positioned

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Speaker 1: you to be a leader. You use that platform and

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Speaker 1: then do other things you had already. You were already

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Speaker 1: a leader on Capitol Hill, not just in the professional positions,

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Speaker 1: but you came to make change. You know, you build

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Speaker 1: impact strategies, so you're you're a leader. I've certainly tried

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Speaker 1: to be a leader and lead things in my capacity

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Speaker 1: in journalism by starting products, building newsrooms.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know that we can have one one leader.

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Speaker 2: But maybe I'm wrong.

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Speaker 4: I like that. I mean I was actually going to

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Speaker 4: challenge the assertion that we needed a personality individual to follow.

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Speaker 4: I think the model of leadership has evolved over over time,

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Speaker 4: and as the mediums have expanded, people are getting information

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Speaker 4: in different ways through different platforms. We got to cover

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Speaker 4: all the turf. But before I before I go there

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Speaker 4: to make a point on the leader or not a leader,

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Speaker 4: I just want to respectfully say to the brother, this

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Speaker 4: is the list of states in this order that we

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Speaker 4: need to go take over. District of Columbia, where we

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Speaker 4: are already forty four percent of the population, Mississippi, where

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Speaker 4: we're thirty eight percent of the population, losing Anna thirty

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Speaker 4: three percent, Georgia thirty three percent, the state of Maryland

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Speaker 4: thirty two percent. That's a plurality when you're talking about

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Speaker 4: elections and trying to move the direction. And the crazy

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Speaker 4: thing about this, y'all, With the exception of the District

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Speaker 4: of Columbia and Maryland, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Georgia are all

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Speaker 4: states led by deep, deep red conservative elected officials at

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Speaker 4: to not only show up in these states but also

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Speaker 4: be registered and then active the vote, man change change

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Speaker 4: the political map, it totally shifts it. Right. So there's

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Speaker 4: some strategy that should and could go into whether or

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Speaker 4: not there were places right here in this land here

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Speaker 4: and those three states Mississippi, Louisiana, and Georgia would be

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Speaker 4: electoral college map that right now increasingly is cutting black

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Speaker 1: That's what I have someone to say about pioneering, But

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Speaker 1: I want to hear. Sorry, I'm sorry, Andrew, I was rude.

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Speaker 1: I arge you, but I don't want to. I want

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Speaker 1: to say something about pioneering, but I want and a

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Speaker 1: little way in on this leadership question. But Andrew, don't

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Speaker 1: let me forget because what you just lay down with

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Speaker 1: that list I got thoughts. We'll go ahead, and Angel

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: I hope we go all the way there. And then

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Speaker 4: finally I'll just say I love the fact that maybe

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Speaker 4: we can't name just one leader. I would just love

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Speaker 4: for the leaders, wherever they are in their respective places

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Speaker 4: and whatever they're leading, that they actually step up, speak

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Speaker 4: truth to power and take us somewhere. Because if you're

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Speaker 4: not bringing some folks along, you're a man or a

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Speaker 5: As they say, come on Chinese proverb. I you know first,

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Speaker 5: I want to just add I would love to know

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Speaker 5: what Alabama's numbers are too, because you didn't name them.

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Speaker 5: So I'm just curious how far behind they are in

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Speaker 5: our overall demographic and is it the demographic of voting

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Speaker 5: about those.

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Speaker 4: Those percentages were black percentage of the population in those days,

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Speaker 4: five percent, not necessarily.

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Speaker 1: According to the US SenSys, the black population is twenty

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Speaker 1: six point six percent in Alabama.

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Speaker 5: Interesting. I would wouldn't have thought it would be that different.

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Speaker 5: But I guess you know what is fascinating to me

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Speaker 5: about this moment, Like I agree with you guys obviously,

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Speaker 5: Like even when you go back and look at the

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Speaker 5: Civil rights era, sure, doctor King was the face of

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Speaker 5: the same goal I am. I wonder though, like if

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Speaker 5: if it's the Trump administration, since they're in power now,

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Speaker 5: they're like, hey, we need one spokesperson for black people,

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Speaker 5: who's going I think that would turn into battle Royale.

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Speaker 5: But I would love to know, Like, if you had

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Speaker 5: to give me your top five list, who you send it.

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Speaker 5: And I'm also curious about if you only had one

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Speaker 5: like to represent your national interests, who are you calling?

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Speaker 5: Why does that matter? I think that we have to

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Speaker 5: then we have a table. We have a kitchen cabinet,

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Speaker 5: talk to Garrison Fraser nineteen ministers. So at that point,

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Speaker 5: the church is where leadership existed for the black community.

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Speaker 5: They negotiated what the terms of our freedom would be

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Speaker 5: on the other side of emancipation, the Emancipation Proclamation. And

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Speaker 5: there was just a massacre that they were like, oh,

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Speaker 5: sixty five, but it was a bunch of black folks

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Speaker 5: consider that there were nineteen of them. Even then at

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Speaker 5: the table, we are a communal people, so it's not

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Speaker 5: like we really need to pick a singular leader. But

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Speaker 5: if we had to have our starting five or the

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Speaker 5: folks who were going to beat the other team at

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Speaker 5: the All Star Game, Tiff, I know you appreciate those

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Speaker 5: analogies of our residents first expert.

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Speaker 2: What who who.

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Speaker 5: We put in a game like this.

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Speaker 1: Is an ongoing conversation. I love that question. I would

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Speaker 1: love to hear from the audience too.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 2: I want to make sure we're asking correctly.

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Speaker 1: You're saying you're top five leaders, Like if you send it,

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Speaker 1: but who's that?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: If the president says, send me the top five leaders,

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Speaker 1: you don't have to be this president, any leader of

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Speaker 5: No, I think I think it should be this predident, Okay,

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Speaker 5: especially because it's ultra inflammatory, because then then if you

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Speaker 4: From a single leader leader, Well, we have always looked.

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Speaker 5: As as they always have.

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Speaker 1: They always have Angela from the Red Summer of nineteen

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Speaker 4: Getting back in touch with what we already know. Black folks,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah, that would be great. Pay for it

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm really gonna give this something. I had a

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Speaker 1: that out. We are your host, Tiffany Cross, ANGELAA and

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