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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast made Joe Judge run laps.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas, coming to you from a

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Speaker 1: virtual room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal, and

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling. What's up boys? Hey, damn? How you feeling west?

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Speaker 1: Monday's Mondays in the West. Best day of the week.

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Speaker 1: I've felt better, but getting through it, getting through it, um.

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Speaker 1: I think only two more weeks of chemo, but now

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Speaker 1: we're talking about doing clinical trials, which is like experimental

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Speaker 1: treatment after those two weeks are up. Um, because the

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Speaker 1: back pain is still there and that leads me to

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Speaker 1: believe the cancer is still gonna be there when they

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Speaker 1: So we'll just taking a day by day. Came back. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is a big one, you know. In fact, it

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Speaker 1: kind of informs how we want to build out our

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Speaker 1: lead up to week one because there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: fun stuff we go through on this show as we

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Speaker 1: approach week one, and it's getting there. It's a week

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Speaker 1: from Thursday right now, it just doesn't we say it,

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Speaker 1: then it'll become real, but it's still doesn't really real.

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Speaker 1: It's not real in this house, I can tell you

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Speaker 1: that where it's chaos at all times and the season

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Speaker 1: hasn't started yet, it's uh, my body clock is telling

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Speaker 1: me it's like June nine, and so I things are

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Speaker 1: very odd internal. The difference though, between now and like

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Speaker 1: a month ago, when when camp quote in quotes was

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Speaker 1: in theory starting and now camps are basically over already

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Speaker 1: that there's no doubt that the season is starting, at

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Speaker 1: least you know in my like that was a real

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Speaker 1: doubt four or five weeks ago. It's like, wow, how

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Speaker 1: is this all gonna work? Like I don't know exactly

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Speaker 1: how it's gonna work, but they're playing that game. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be sixteen thousand people apparently in the crowd, and like, um,

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Speaker 1: like I don't have much doubt anymore because the COVID

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Speaker 1: I just can't quite believe it's in a week and

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Speaker 1: This is a it's a blind spot for Greg because

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Speaker 1: he fails to realize that like the moon is going

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Speaker 1: to crash into the Indian Ocean four days from now,

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Speaker 1: so you know, just let's not get too cocky here.

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Speaker 1: As my mother has said to me many times, don't

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Speaker 1: spit in the scar Let's just hope we get there.

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Speaker 1: Things are going in the right direction, and yes, Monday's

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Speaker 1: knowing that we have wes, we want to do our

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Speaker 1: best stuff. And one of our favorite segments we do

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Speaker 1: every year around this is Around the NFL podcast Around

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Speaker 1: the a f C in forty eight minutes. We'll hit

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Speaker 1: the NFC later this week, but we got West locked

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Speaker 1: and loaded as our number four to hit it. So

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go through each team in the four divisions

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Speaker 1: and everybody gets three minutes no complaining in the mentions

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Speaker 1: about your team not getting an up. But we still

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Speaker 1: get complaints, as it turns out West because people then complain, Oh,

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Speaker 1: those bozos went down some wormhole and they talked about

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Speaker 1: my team for thirty seconds and talked about I don't

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Speaker 1: get like paying on something. Well, that's that goes with

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Speaker 1: the territory. But I maintain I've always said, hey, put

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Speaker 1: the blame on your team, not us. Your team could

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Speaker 1: be a lot more interesting and then we'd find lots

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Speaker 1: blame at your team like a critical thinking fans dropping

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Speaker 1: the hammer in a big spot as strong as ever.

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Speaker 1: Um all right, so we're gonna go through it all,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think we should even waste time. You know,

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Speaker 1: will fold that into uh, the a f C South talk.

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Speaker 1: to welcome in um Our Juna Rango Paul. He's he's

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Speaker 1: it right now, are you know? Around the a f

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Speaker 1: We have talked so much about Cam Newton and the

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Speaker 1: don't love I wanted them to get Emmanuel Sanders or

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Speaker 1: someone at white up back to Jackson and running the football.

429
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Speaker 1: In his first two seasons. This from ESPN, he has

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Speaker 1: two sixty design runs a hundred and fifty nine more

431
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Speaker 1: than any other quarterback, Josh Allen second with one oh six.

432
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Speaker 1: That doesn't feel sustainable to me in the long term.

433
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,679
Speaker 1: I know he's been durable so far, but I'll be careful.

434
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Speaker 1: This is your franchise now, right agreed? Stainable for one

435
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Speaker 1: more year? Hack that away and what do you have?

436
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:45,200
Speaker 1: The Pittsburgh Steelers. Has a sense of urgency in Pittsburgh

437
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 1: ever been higher in the Tomlin era than right now?

438
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 1: Or should it be a big bend thirty eight years old?

439
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 1: We know his whole situation. The Patriots, we know they're

440
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,400
Speaker 1: not special anymore, so you don't have to worry about

441
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 1: them anymore. Being the fly in the ointment. The rosters

442
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,879
Speaker 1: loaded with free agents, uh, many of whom could be

443
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 1: playing elsewhere with the uncertainty around the salary cap right now,

444
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:12,160
Speaker 1: championship roster great skill pieces on both sides of the ball.

445
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,120
Speaker 1: The defense could be the best in the league. Put

446
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Speaker 1: Big Ben back in for Rudolph and Duck Hodges and

447
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,400
Speaker 1: that could be a huge upgrade. Uh is it now?

448
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 1: Or never for the Black and Gold. I think so

449
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Speaker 1: because Ben either is gonna make it through and still

450
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Speaker 1: be Ben. I guess then it wouldn't be not You know,

451
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Speaker 1: then then you think, okay, maybe you have one more year,

452
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Speaker 1: but how many more can you count on. I think

453
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Speaker 1: they've had one of the most positive training camps of

454
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Speaker 1: any team, not just because they haven't had any major injuries,

455
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Speaker 1: but Roethlisberger has made it through and everyone there same.

456
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Speaker 1: His arm looks good. I know there were some reports

457
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Speaker 1: early he's like short arming things or whatever, but he's

458
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Speaker 1: out there every day he's practicing. They say he's he's

459
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Speaker 1: throwing the ball well and he's getting through this. Will

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Speaker 1: it last when he's getting tackled. I don't know, but

461
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Speaker 1: I think it was a fair question to even wonder

462
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Speaker 1: how it was gonna look in August, and he's throwing

463
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Speaker 1: fine against there. They have to be fired up to

464
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Speaker 1: have him on the field at the same time of

465
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Speaker 1: this defense, which it took a long time to come together,

466
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Speaker 1: but there's a lot of great players on this defense

467
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Speaker 1: at every level. I think it's you know, we forget

468
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Speaker 1: that they were eight and five a year ago with

469
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Speaker 1: an absolute nightmare roster and I think that there are

470
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Speaker 1: a little bit of a revenge tour team and we

471
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Speaker 1: we cited them correctly. Is maybe one being overlooked a

472
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Speaker 1: little bit? I mean the next factor is, is Juju

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Speaker 1: Smith Schuster gonna be who he was two years ago? Um?

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Speaker 1: Is Antonio Brown correct and saying that he's not a

475
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Speaker 1: true number one? I think he was in a terrible

476
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Speaker 1: situation a year ago. I mean I would also look yeh,

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Speaker 1: I mean it just it was not a good It's

478
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Speaker 1: not shocking why he wasn't himself. I think this is

479
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Speaker 1: also possibly beg big bends last year in Pittsburgh. I

480
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 1: honestly have I have this returning vision of him being

481
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Speaker 1: Gruden's quarterback with the Raiders next year for one year.

482
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Speaker 1: So I think the urgency is there and that like

483
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Speaker 1: this isn't you know, it's now or never for Pittsburgh

484
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Speaker 1: A hundred hunt. Yeah, the favorite in the division. I

485
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,679
Speaker 1: really do go ahead over Baltimore. Yep, I I I

486
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 1: disagree with that, but I think they'll be right there,

487
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Speaker 1: you know, very close. Juju is still younger than some

488
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Speaker 1: of the guys who were drafted this year. I mean

489
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Speaker 1: that he's still developing. He still got room to grow

490
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Speaker 1: and a guy that Greg has liked for the past

491
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Speaker 1: few months, Chase Claypool, was getting all kinds of positive

492
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Speaker 1: pub coming out of camp, which is so interesting watching

493
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Speaker 1: draft season and seeing like the Bob McGann articles where

494
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: he's like graded as a tight end because they don't

495
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Speaker 1: think he can stay a wide receiver, and now he's

496
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Speaker 1: blowing the doors off a training camp. Well, that's a

497
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Speaker 1: monster that looks like a tight end actually can be

498
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Speaker 1: good for a wide receiver in the red zone. One zero, alright, Sessler,

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Speaker 1: make it count the Cleveland Browns. All right. Well, I

500
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 1: think we've talked about this team a lot, and we

501
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 1: know the offensive talent is there. And I've been watching

502
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Speaker 1: They've been putting these two hour long camp practices on

503
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Speaker 1: YouTube every day. I've been taped dog in this stuff

504
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Speaker 1: West Okay. And here's my big concern comment. I don't

505
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: see here's my this is a legit concern. I'm not

506
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Speaker 1: trying to be freaked out about it. I don't see

507
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Speaker 1: in these practices a drop off from Baker Mayfield to

508
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Speaker 1: case keenom I know the case keenom Is is comfortable

509
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Speaker 1: in this Stefanski system, and Baker has had to learn

510
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Speaker 1: a lot of third system in three years. I don't

511
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Speaker 1: like that. It's not easy. I give Mayfield credit for

512
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Speaker 1: getting his body right. He has been all focused on football. Um,

513
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Speaker 1: but here's my issue, and this is a little bit

514
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Speaker 1: more of an esoteric Brown's issue. We can get into

515
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Speaker 1: the other stuff, this whole Baker being silent and Baker

516
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: you know, uh, you know, just quietly working. Baker Mayfield

517
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 1: is like that cocky cowboy who you love or hate

518
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 1: based on your own p O V. And the NFL

519
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks are a different deal. I don't really want a

520
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Speaker 1: quieter Baker Mayfield. I wanted to be who he is,

521
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Speaker 1: and I don't think the Browns maximize who they are

522
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 1: if he is muted or overly humbled in that position

523
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 1: where he's still coming off of last year's disaster. And

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Speaker 1: you can tell me, have I fallen down in other

525
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 1: one of these sort of Brown's mental wormholes, or is

526
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 1: there something to the fact that Look at if you're

527
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: if you want to be the quiet leader, be it.

528
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 1: But if you're Baker Mayfield, your soul is something entirely different.

529
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Speaker 1: Be who you are and don't apologize for it. That

530
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 1: goes for everything everybody in life, but mostly for quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: You have to be genuine, you have to be true

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Speaker 1: to yourself. And we're not gonna have answers to Baker

533
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Speaker 1: Mayfield in August. We're not gonna know until October and

534
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: November how he's doing. But but the best sports stories

535
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 1: are about overcoming adversity, and after what what last season

536
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 1: was for him, this is overcoming adversity. He's got a

537
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Speaker 1: show that there's more more fiber to him than what

538
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Speaker 1: he showed last year, that he's got some some willpower

539
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: because the personality he's putting out there, you gotta put

540
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: out more effort than you put out last year. He

541
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: played incredibly well as a rookie, ran his mouth that

542
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: summer leading up to last year, played poorly and it

543
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: looked bad. So now he's moving in silence. If he

544
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: plays well in September, he'll be talking again. I think

545
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Speaker 1: I don't buy it. I don't buy the moving in

546
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: silence thing. I think he's doing it because he's smart

547
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 1: and people told him to be this way right now,

548
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: but we know who he is by now. He's a

549
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 1: charismatic guy. He's a cocky kid, and I expect that

550
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 1: to come out. I'm already cringing by everyone like applying

551
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: like if he does bad, it's because he was quiet.

552
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: If he does well, it's he was quiet. And it's like, no,

553
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: he was. I think he was humbled by defenses. You know,

554
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 1: he was hum He he is a gamer and I

555
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: hate that phrase, but he created a lot after the

556
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 1: snap without exactly knowing what he was seen as a rookie,

557
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 1: and he was awesome. I think he's still throw the

558
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,719
Speaker 1: ball pretty well at times. Last year, he just made

559
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: a lot of bad mistakes and um, he realized he needs,

560
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: as West said, he needs to get in the playbook more.

561
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: He needs to like learn what he doesn't know more.

562
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: Go ahead and Mark, you got three seconds, two words,

563
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: Harrison Brant future star. This guy is gonna be awesome.

564
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: That's a lot of two tight end sets. Hit me

565
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Speaker 1: with that dark gun. It's like I want it. Give

566
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Speaker 1: it to him. Feels good. The kard Artery Payne alright,

567
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: moving on closing out the division, West, I mean Greg,

568
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: excuse me, the Cincinnati Bengals. Let's head to the sanctuary.

569
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: It is so strange to be coming off off season

570
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: where we have talked about the Bengals a ton as

571
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: a fun team. One thing to keep an eye on.

572
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon hasn't been practicing for more than a week

573
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Speaker 1: because of quote unquote Migraines might have a contract. I

574
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 1: mean before the season. I think that ends up. It

575
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 1: sounds like it's it's gonna be handled perfectly well, like

576
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: Melvin Ingram situation. But but keep an eye out for that.

577
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: I think they've had a really good camp because A. J.

578
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: Green is helped again. Tee Higgins is out there, and

579
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Speaker 1: they are the team that had three receivers on the

580
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: field more than almost any team other than Arizona last

581
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: year with these trashy receivers. Now you've got a nice group.

582
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: Jonah Williams has looked good at left tackle during camp.

583
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is out there making team statements on social

584
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: justice in front of fifty veterans, and they tell him

585
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: to be the guy to lead him like. I love

586
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: that that. He's already kind of impressed the people around him.

587
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: Are you now that we're right here, Wes, are you

588
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: feeling it? Are you getting back into I'm not coming home?

589
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: But this might be the most encouraged I've been four

590
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:24,959
Speaker 1: Bengals fans since the eighties. Yeah, I mean Joe Burrow.

591
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: To me, I've been saying this all along. The natural

592
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: leadership qualities are there. And then to see J Morrison,

593
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: who writes for The Athletic in Cincinnati, said he was

594
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: easily the m v P of training camp, your rookie

595
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: quarterback drafted number one overall. I mean, sure, it's only August.

596
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: Take it with a grain of salt, but if you're

597
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: a Bengals fan, nothing is putting a bouncing your step

598
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: like Joe Burrow, like actually putting forth on the field

599
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: in training camp that he is that guy. Yeah, I

600
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: feel like it came out of Central Casting as like

601
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: the perfect quarterback. I mean, he's smoking cigars in the

602
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: locker room, he's got awesome hair. And Zach Taylor on

603
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: NFL dot Com is my doing those picks again. He's

604
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: my coach of the year, dude. Because they're gonna go

605
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: two and fourteen last year. I think they're gonna go

606
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: nine and seven. They're gonna wax the Browns in week two.

607
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: I've already texted you with those fears. I think the

608
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: Bengals are gonna be super fun. I'm not kidding. I

609
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be this awesome story this year, and

610
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: as much as I don't love that, I'm really happy

611
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: for Bengals fans because it has been a dark winner

612
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: for decades. M M. I don't want to take this

613
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: off topic, but if you have the Bengals as one

614
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: of the fund stories in the NFL and the Ravens

615
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: as like a super Bowl team and the Steelers right there,

616
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: you must not be very high Brown. No. I think

617
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: they're the fourth place team because I think they were

618
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: affected by anyone by injuries in camp and also an

619
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: impossible transition, A tough ask other teams in that division

620
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: are are are steady, steady steady? The Eagles would like

621
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: to have to have a word to you on those injuries.

622
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: I mean, well, they're up there different like an outside

623
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: linebacker is like, let's get back to the sanctuary. Yeah,

624
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: let's give the Let's give the Bengals defensive little attention

625
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: because they were terrible last year. But I think they

626
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: don't be terrible again. Dunlap was good. If Geno Atkins

627
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: can be a little more like there on the back

628
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: nine of their career, we can't expect improvement. It's fair

629
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: Dunlap at the end of last year was as good

630
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: as he's ever played the last five or six just saying,

631
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: good guy. All right, before we close out the a

632
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: f C South, let's pause. Here are Juna Uh to

633
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: break down the big news coming out of Jacksonville this weekend,

634
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: and then we'll we'll dovetail right into West setting up

635
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: that team for three minutes. But yes, the big news.

636
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: The Jaguars traded Uh franchise tag defensive then Yannick and

637
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: got Way to the Vikings for second round pick and

638
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: a conditional fifth round pick of the Vikings announced Monday

639
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: and got Way and this one, this blew my mind.

640
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: And I've seen a lot in football and guys unhappy

641
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: about contracts and unhappy with their team, but I've never

642
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: seen a guy take a cut like this. And Gockway

643
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: has agreed to a one year, twelve million dollar deal

644
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: with the Vikings instead of playing out the franchise tender

645
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: of close to eighteen million with the Jaguars. That's what

646
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: it took to get the trade done the Vikings that

647
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: limited cap space. Let's start within Gockway, Greg, your thoughts

648
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: on the deal? Did they promise him that they're gonna

649
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: pay him a specific amount under you know, under the

650
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: table the Vikings. I mean to make this trade because

651
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: you're right, I mean, and I wouldn't shock me. No

652
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: one would ever be able to find out about it.

653
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: They said they're confident they can resign them. They can't

654
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: do that right now because of the rules having to

655
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: do with franchise tags. Because to take a six million

656
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,959
Speaker 1: dollar pay cut just because you want out of Jacksonville

657
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: so much is um is fascinating. I mean, he he

658
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: certainly did not like that organization. It's an awesome trade

659
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: for the Vikings, I think because, uh, his speed plays well.

660
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: I love him on the indoor track opposite the Neil Hunter.

661
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I really think it solves one of the

662
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: big question marks for the Vikings, is you yeah, I

663
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: think like Also, the other thing about in got Way

664
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: is despite the clashing with the Jaguars, everyone sort of says,

665
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: this guy works hard and he's not a problem at all.

666
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: It's the opposite. And if you want to look back

667
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: a year ago, it was Jalen Ramsey who went, you know,

668
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: the trades of the Rams did not require him signing

669
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: a new contract right away. He also wanted to get

670
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: out of there so bad that it was just like

671
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: there was a culture issue, and I can't I can't

672
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: remember a more dead you know, like floating dead duck

673
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: uh coach in NFL in the NFL than Doug Marone

674
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: right now. I mean, it's like what on earth with

675
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: Doug Moron after? I mean, they'll probably keep them anyways,

676
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: but I mean, how many rebuilding jobs is David Caldwell

677
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: going to oversee oversee at this point? I mean, we

678
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: all see the numbers of the first rounders that have

679
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: not gotten to second contracts and gotten out of there

680
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: and produced eltswhere or just been you know, bus, I

681
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: just what's going on here. The loyalty to these guys

682
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: is surprising to me. It reminds me of the nineties Bengals,

683
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: where David Caldwell is going to rebuild for what the

684
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: third time? I mean, and what's he done with his

685
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: high draft picks so far? You've got guys scratching at

686
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: the walls to get out of there. That's that's not healthy.

687
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: They have one winning season since two thousand eight. Caldwell

688
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: got there. In two thousand thirteen, shot Con got there

689
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: inn and I mean they took the longest victory lap

690
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: ever for that one winning season and resigned Bordles and

691
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: didn't draft you know, some of the better pastors we've

692
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 1: seen in decades. So the other move, Leonard Fournette has

693
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 1: been cut loose. The Jaguars tried and tried and tried

694
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,280
Speaker 1: to move the number four and former number four overall

695
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: pick in seventeen on a trade. Doug Morone told the

696
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: media that as much on Monday, saying they could not

697
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: find anything. Sixth round pick, seventh round pick. There was

698
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 1: just no market for Leonard four Nette West A little listen.

699
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: I know people, nobody likes Leonard Fournette as a player

700
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: right now. I was surprised when I was looking at

701
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: his numbers that he did have fifteen hundred total yards

702
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: last year a lot of you know, and he didn't

703
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: find the end zone a lot. But this wasn't a

704
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 1: guy that was a total disaster for them last year.

705
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: And now they move, they dump him, and I get

706
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: why people are saying this is a tank for Trevor's situation,

707
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: because he's he was He made their roster more talented, right.

708
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: I know he's not stud but he made the better

709
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: I think for net is one of the he might

710
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: be exhibit A for why you need to watch the

711
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: games in football. His numbers are so different from what

712
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: you're getting for him that it's volume. Pure volume is

713
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: what it is. Like. You can stick a lot of

714
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: guys in there and make on the three down back

715
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: and they're gonna get total yards. I mean, that's just

716
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: the way it works, especially if you force feed him

717
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: check downs and dump off passes, and he's the exact

718
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: wrong guy to be getting that stuff. You want to

719
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: hit Leonard four Nette with room to run as a

720
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: big guy, he should be making guys miss and running

721
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: over people. But most of his big players come from

722
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: getting to the second level of defense and just out

723
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: running everyone because for the first few yards he's not

724
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: going anywhere, and he's just a really inefficient running back.

725
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: I think he could do a lot better in a

726
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: different offense. He's probably ill suited for what Jake Gruden's

727
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: gonna want to come in and do, and that's why

728
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: they're getting rid of him. Um. I thought he was

729
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: much better in two thousand nineteen than he was in

730
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: two thousand eighteen, and I think he can help a team.

731
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: But if you're just looking at numbers, you're gonna drastically

732
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: overrate the guy. I would say you go read West's

733
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: game notes on four Net that he tweeted out before

734
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: the show today in which he gives him the nickname

735
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: battleship for Net. Maybe you can explain West why he

736
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: earned that nickname. Well, you know, it has to do it.

737
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: It's like imagine him turning around with his back to

738
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: a defender in the passing game and trying to make

739
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: a move on a guy is like a battleship turning

740
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: around in the Panama Canal. There's just no agility there,

741
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: like you're not gonna you're not gonna make anyone miss.

742
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: You know. It's it's a tight space with a guy

743
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: who's just gonna take an hour to unwind and go

744
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: around him. Just how does not go for overall? How

745
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: does he go ahead of Patrick? Yeah, to be to

746
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: be fair to the Jaguars, um I thought that they

747
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: were crazy to double down on boardles that year, and

748
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: and we we were on the record then saying that

749
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: because he was coming off a bad year. But everyone

750
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: had for Net ahead of McCaffrey. Not to mention Mixing

751
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,439
Speaker 1: and Camara and all the other people. Guy who runs

752
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: four people were just in love with with that tape

753
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,280
Speaker 1: of like people they thought because defenders in the SEC

754
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 1: that he was too much for them, uh, that that

755
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: he was somehow going to overpower NFL defenders. And that

756
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: just aren't many guys like that that come up, come

757
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: along that are so physically dominant. Derrick Henry's one. I mean,

758
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry's kind of done it um, but there there

759
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: just aren't many guys like that. It's also the NFL

760
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: and so much that is dependent upon scheme, coaches and teammates.

761
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: And if you put this guy in the right offense,

762
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: surrounded by the right people, and call the right place

763
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: for him, it wouldn't surprise me if people start seeing

764
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: him as a Pro Bowl kind of runner instead of

765
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: a guy where he's being used wrong, he's getting the

766
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: wrong touches, and he's and he's behind the bad offensive

767
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: line with a rookie quarterback. You can't put it all

768
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: in called because there's the Tom Coughlin factor, who wanted

769
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: to build a team that got shotguns out of nineteen

770
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: thirty six based around you know, a big body back

771
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: where it's like that can work, but you also have

772
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 1: Blake Bordles at quarterback and they're always blaming in someone though,

773
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: it's like they blamed the previous GM at first, then

774
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: they blamed well, it wasn't our fault we brought in cop. Well,

775
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: you were there, you were the one that brought it.

776
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: You know, you're part of that group that brought in cough.

777
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: I guess he can blame the owner if you really want,

778
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: not called well, but it's they're always always pushed it

779
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: around the blame. It's like, no, marone is nobody's fault

780
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: that we're just the worst organization in the league when

781
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: it comes to winning games. Well, I was gonna say,

782
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: yesterday and my sideyard, the bottom of like the wooden

783
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: gate was blown to Smitherens because there was my two

784
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: sons in the house and then um my friend Bob's

785
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: two sons and the four of them just going a

786
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: and slamming in this batmobile into the bottom. And then

787
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: when I went for answers, I wanted accountability, it was

788
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: just everybody pointing fingers at the at each other for

789
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: the blame. Nobody wanted to take the accountability. So when

790
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: you're being likened to a let's say, a six year old,

791
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: a three year old, a four year old, and an

792
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: eight year old. Maybe your organization needs to clean things

793
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 1: up a little bit. Maybe look at all the talent

794
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: they've had come through there. And you know, Greg has

795
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: pointed out in the past that defenses are unreliable from

796
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: year to year. When you build your team around defense,

797
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: you can't count on it. Like two years from now,

798
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: they're you're gonna be great, and Class Campbell's gone, Dexter

799
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: Fowler has gone, Jalen Ramsey's gone, Telvin Smith, Malik Jackson.

800
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: I mean, this was a Super Bowl caliber roster except

801
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: that quarterback. And it reminds me of an article I

802
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: wrote like five years ago where Mike Holmgren says, you

803
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: draft a guy, and here's the very important part. No

804
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: matter what happens, you stand by him. You stand by

805
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: him in public, you stand by him in prior of it,

806
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: no matter what happens on the field, you stand by him.

807
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: At what point are you doing yourself a disservice to

808
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: the point where you ruin your franchise by standing by

809
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: the guy? You miss your Super Bowl window because you

810
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: stood by the guy. All right, let's now get into

811
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: uh the around the A f C format once again.

812
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: West Let's hit the Jaguars now suddenly without any of

813
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: their well known guys from the past. I don't think

814
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: it's an apples to apples comparison, because the Jaguars have

815
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: tried to strengthen their roster um. They've gone out and

816
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: signed some veterans to fill some holes. But this is

817
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 1: the closest thing this year, obviously to the two thousand

818
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: nineteen Dolphins, where we're unloading our veterans who we don't

819
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 1: see could have a future with us. They won't be

820
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 1: a part of our next winning team. So my question

821
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: is what constitutes a success for the two thousand twenty Jaguars.

822
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: I would say this real quick because it's west. It's funny.

823
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 1: I wrote the words organic jag tank because I feel

824
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: the same way that that they they are. They're running

825
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: that that going down that road right now. I think

826
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: you need to because you're probably gonna be the number

827
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: one or two pick, right, you have to uh find

828
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: out what you had in Gardner Minshew, and to to

829
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: the point of sticking with the wrong quarterback. If Gardner

830
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: Minshew is just a really serviceable fun um back up,

831
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: you need to know that by the end of the

832
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: year and not make the mistake of not getting the

833
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: best quarterback out there and staying in the same uh,

834
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 1: you know, dark territory that they've been for so long.

835
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 1: I think you have to evaluate the most important position

836
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 1: on your roster and aggressively go fix it next off season.

837
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: I think you hit on some picks and uh and

838
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: your young players play better. I don't you know. I

839
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: think they could be a little feist the on offense.

840
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: Minshew at his moments. I think the receivers are are

841
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: pretty good, the offensive line is stable, and um, they

842
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: have that hasn't been the case. I mean, they have

843
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: their starters back. I think it's having those young players

844
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: Will Josh Allen, Um, you know, the first round pick

845
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: this year? What was it chasing c. J. Henderson. I

846
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: mean they had a couple of first round picks this year,

847
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: those guys playing, I mean Miles Jack was a guy

848
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: they thought they were going to build around coming off

849
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: a pretty rough year. So it's like some of these

850
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: young guys stepping up and the offense being feisty. I

851
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: don't necessarily think they're the number one pick. It wouldn't

852
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: It wouldn't surprise me if they have a Dolphins like

853
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: season where you know they're fifth or sixth in the draft,

854
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: and there are certainly rosters out there I think that

855
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: are just as bad or worse. I just say on

856
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: paper door and like they I get concerned about. If

857
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 1: you want to talk about like a Corona Risk team,

858
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: one of these teams where the coach is not part

859
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: of the future, he's losing the players. They start one

860
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: and eight, You're in Florida. People are out partying saying

861
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: forget this whole thing. I mean that is when you

862
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: get into you step into a stick your scenario. It

863
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: feels like Gardner Minshew is in an impossible spot because

864
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: even if he is, I mean I don't I have

865
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: a different view on his ceiling than other people on

866
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: the show. But even if he's pretty good, if you're

867
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 1: running this organization, you're probably gonna want to do the

868
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: Bengals thing here or what teams have been doing forever

869
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: is like we need to reboot, we need a new

870
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 1: face of the franchise. And as cute as Gardener is

871
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: with his floppy hair and his social media stuff, like,

872
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: you probably want to get the number one hot shot

873
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: out there and say this is our guy. We're starting over,

874
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: and he's the face of it, I feel like that's

875
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: where this is all headed. Maybe he'll be the Brown's

876
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: quarterback next year. Mark, you know, as long as he

877
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 1: keeps that floppy hair, all right, all right, let's continue

878
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 1: now to roll through the a f C South Greg

879
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: Houston Texans. The Texans gave Zack Conningham, their inside linebacker,

880
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: a big contract over the weekend and and it got

881
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: me thinking's heard about this roster and I like Coney

882
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: Ammy is one of the best run stoppers in the league.

883
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: Although they have too highly paid inside linebackers, which is

884
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: this weird two twenty probably get rid of Bernardic McKinney.

885
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: I think it's a fine signing, but it reminds me

886
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: this is not a young team, partly because they haven't

887
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: had draft picks, partly because they haven't hit on their

888
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 1: draft picks like their hope this year. And this is

889
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: it's a dangerous spot to be. It is just like

890
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: the veterans they have have to be available and better.

891
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: It's like because because those veterans are pretty good. J. J.

892
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: Watt is number one among them. I mean, they're a

893
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: totally different team when he's out there. But Whitney merciless

894
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: is another guy, Bill O'Brien. The GM gave a huge

895
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 1: contract to late last season after one of his worst seasons,

896
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: and he was not a good pass rusher. Last year,

897
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: they gave Laramie Tunseil a huge contract. Smart people say

898
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: he's one of the best in the league. I guess

899
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: he is. He also had the most penalties of any

900
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: left tackling the league. So you you want him to

901
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: be even better, to be to be dominant. You want

902
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: Will Fuller to be healthy to be dominant. You want

903
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: to Shaun Watson if it's possible to go up another tier,

904
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: because that is possible. I mean, he's he's only entering

905
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 1: what year four or five, a couple now away from

906
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: a c L. Justin Reid played through an injury. I

907
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: think he's a really impressive player at safety. So it's

908
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys who are veterans who are just saying,

909
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: you're already really good if these guys are all better,

910
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: Like those guys are Pro bowlers, and this team is

911
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: a lot to deal with it in a division where

912
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: there's really no big favorite. Well, they they have been

913
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 1: and they continue to be a particularly shallow team that

914
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: wins a week division because they have stars at the top,

915
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: and it reminds me of like the Cowboys ten years

916
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 1: ago when they had the star power names. But if

917
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: they have an injury or two, then you're in trouble,

918
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 1: and you know, on top of it, to your point

919
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: that the veterans need to show up and be great now.

920
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: Next year is another year where they don't have a

921
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: first or second round pick. You don't pick till the third.

922
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: It's like there isn't You're not really there's not a

923
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: real easy way to add an injection and of of

924
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: young talent and build the way good teams do, which

925
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: is through the draft. I mean it. It's an interesting

926
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: team because of because of Bob's unpredictability around the trade deadline.

927
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,720
Speaker 1: I still think that they will do some freaky stuff

928
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: this here, but there's no proof that this plan works. Yeah,

929
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 1: and O'Brien got killed obviously this offseason, and I, even

930
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: as a long time Bob defender, I couldn't. But I

931
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: also think it's premature, especially we're talking about a division

932
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: that feels wide open, to think that this team won't

933
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: be right back there will fuller to me is the

934
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 1: Janka piece, the damnoshetic Jenka Pees, because he's so talented

935
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: and so good. If his body just held up, he

936
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: could end up putting up numbers that eclipse what DeAndre

937
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 1: Hopkins did last year. I think he has that level ceiling.

938
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: Every wide receiver on their team is like if his

939
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 1: body just holds up, Brandon Cooks Randall Cob Brandon Cooks,

940
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 1: Key Couta. Along those same lines, let's talk about the cults,

941
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: because I understand why the contingent of cults, cults, hyper

942
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: optimists out there exists. Um Philip Rivers is the old

943
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: star QB with something to prove. You have a smart,

944
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: proven offensive mind, head coach, a dominant offensive line, and intriguing,

945
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: intriguing rookie running back, a veteran number one wide out

946
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 1: who still has juice and untested but promising second round

947
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: pick at number two, one number three wide out spots,

948
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: and Michael Pittman and Paris Campbell. The ceiling here for

949
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: the Colts is as high as any team outside the

950
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: Chiefs on offense for me, But how often to teams

951
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: with that many factors that need to go right, does

952
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 1: it actually all click. That's where I'm skeptical that everything

953
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: clicks for the Cults if it all does look out,

954
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna go twelve and four this year, but a

955
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: lot has to go right. Well, here's what they have

956
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: going for them. Even if things don't go right, they

957
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: have depth because they've drafted and signed really well. The

958
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: organization is so sound, the structure is sound um to me.

959
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: Outside of Philip Rivers disappointing, you can get by with

960
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: the rest of that, with any other position disappointing. I mean,

961
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: if Marlon Mack doesn't do well, Jonathan Taylor is there,

962
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: Michael Pittman that isn't there, Zach Pascal, who had a

963
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 1: pretty good year, is there. I mean, they've got options

964
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: if if guys don't pan out. I don't think it's

965
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: like an entirely hinging on Philip Rivers too. I mean,

966
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: I think if he's just not a turnover, it's a

967
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: lot of different things, right, a lot of things that

968
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: hinges on for this offense. The max out I hear

969
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: real quickly. I think that like this is another team

970
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: where Frank Reich Chris Ballard, the pairing of them is

971
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: is just very uh, they're in unison. It's very hopeful,

972
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 1: and you have you can't really look past the human

973
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: side of football and how they overcame what happened with

974
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 1: Andrew Lucky year ago. I mean, it's like this, this

975
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: is a tough this is a tough organization. I like this.

976
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 1: I like the kind of style of football. I think

977
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna run on offense and with a

978
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: seventh playoff spot if they're not a playoff team, Indianapolis

979
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: got hit by an asteroid. I have them, I have

980
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: we sent in those picks. I had the Colts winning

981
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl just because I wanted to pick something

982
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 1: that would be fun to route for, like uh and

983
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 1: I think they're they're one of those teams outside like

984
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: the top five most likely that that have a shot.

985
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: A lot of things have to go right is as

986
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: Dan mentioned, but rivers is camp has had positive reviews

987
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: that it's like he looks like a guy who's been

988
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: in that offense before. It's mostly short, it's not a

989
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: surprise he has been in that offense. That's what I mean.

990
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: And t Y Hilton, He's he to me is the

991
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: Jena p I mean, because when he's right, he's a

992
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,240
Speaker 1: top five type of receiver and right now their connection

993
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: you can see that working like him and Keeenanan Allen

994
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 1: Rivers and Keenan Allen back in the day. But Hilton's

995
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: got to stay right, and uh, I think I think

996
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: the upside is there. The downside is eight and eight,

997
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 1: and I get that, But I think they could be

998
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: a three seed that has the magical run. They go

999
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: through bucket board Kansas City on the road of the

1000
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: playoffs because there's no crowd. What if they're three and five?

1001
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 1: Do you think the backup gets back in? No? H

1002
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: really yeah, supposedly he doesn't looked good and the week

1003
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: to week league all right close it out in Division.

1004
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler Tennessee Titans, I think, you know, speaking of

1005
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: you know, going into Baltimore and going into Kansas City,

1006
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 1: Tennessee's playoff, you know, magic from a year ago fell

1007
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: a little bit short, but was one of the more

1008
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 1: enjoyable developments that I can recall in a long time.

1009
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: And I think the question for me, I feel like,

1010
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: with as much as any team in the a f C,

1011
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: we almost have to look at the Titans and say,

1012
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: here's how they get back. They get back by the

1013
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: masterful Arthur Smith, um Needing his two dudes, Derrick Henry

1014
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: and Ryan Tannehill, and we spent weeks wondering which what

1015
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: which one will they keep? They kept both, and they

1016
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: have to almost mirror I think last year's success. I

1017
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 1: don't feel like this offense is built in a way

1018
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: to suddenly, hey, let's shift gears and be like an

1019
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: air raid offense or roll out like the running shoot

1020
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: with Molese Davis. Like they are who they are, and

1021
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 1: we're asking Henry and Tanna Hill to kind of duplicate,

1022
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: and that to me feels very difficult for both of

1023
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: those guys. It's just a lot to ask. In their

1024
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: defense always to me, Um, they were feisty, but they

1025
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: feel a little anonymous on that side of the ball.

1026
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 1: Still Um Titans to me right in the mix. But

1027
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: I last year was sort of magical. It can magic

1028
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: duplicate itself. I think that's a fair question. I don't

1029
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,280
Speaker 1: think you can count on everything going so perfectly. On offense.

1030
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: For instance, there's no way their play action attack is

1031
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: going to be as effective as it was last year.

1032
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: It was just it was abnormally effective. So to me,

1033
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: the improvement has to come on the other side of

1034
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 1: the ball, and that two thousand, seventeen eighteen and nineteen

1035
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: first round picks. You needed Dorey Jackson to be a

1036
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:33,280
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl cornerback. You need Rashaan Evans at inside linebacker

1037
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: to be a tackling machine, and he had one of

1038
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: the most impressive goal line stands I've ever seen last

1039
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 1: year in the playoffs. And you need Jeffrey simmons um

1040
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: to make Jorell Casey an afterthought, and Jeffrey simmons is

1041
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 1: talented enough to do it. To me, those guys have

1042
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: to be absolute stars, not just solid starters. It's a

1043
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: fair point because when you look at the names, there

1044
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: is a chance this defense gets better. They lost Dnps,

1045
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,479
Speaker 1: their defensive coordinator. It's a little unclear how they're gonna

1046
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,439
Speaker 1: call plays, whether it be very able or what they're

1047
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 1: gonna do. But Malcolm Butler actually played better for them

1048
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: last year. Like he's not a bad starting corner. You

1049
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: have Kenny Vaccaro, as said, you have Kevin Byard in

1050
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: the secondary, like you're needing a little more pass rush

1051
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: from Harold Landry or Vic Beasley. But add up all

1052
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: those names you said with the young guys, like there

1053
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: is a top ten defense upside. We haven't seen it

1054
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: since verybel has been there, and I agree that's what

1055
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: they need because Tannehill it's gonna slide back. It's just like,

1056
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: how much is he sliding back to like a solid

1057
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 1: above average starter. I think he can do that. He's

1058
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: not going to be a top five starter again, it's

1059
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: just too crazy to expect. Derrick Henry's last let's call

1060
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: it twenty twenty three games have been as good as

1061
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: any running backs we've seen in sometime. Is that sustainable?

1062
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 1: I mean the abuse he takes to what they ask

1063
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: of him. Maybe he's still young, he's maybe he still

1064
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: has another two, three, four years in the tank. But

1065
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: that's another question mark. Will he be able to sustain that?

1066
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: The masterful Arthur Smith underwell Arthur Smith. I think he's

1067
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: an underrated OC A great job last year. He's the

1068
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: FedEx the FedEx air righton? Who that's pretty you know?

1069
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 1: And who who tried to kneecap the Washington football team

1070
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: helped change their team name his dad? I guess. So

1071
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: it's all it's all weirdly connected, are Junah? Don't be

1072
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: shy with that tranquilizer gun? Now? Oh yeah, I forgot it.

1073
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: Let's close it out. The a f C West, the

1074
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 1: great mailman will deliver on the defending champs, the Chiefs.

1075
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: So I was going through Leonard four Nette landing spots

1076
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: and the one that intrigued me the most, I think

1077
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:54,919
Speaker 1: was Kansas City. So if you have the rookie what's

1078
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: name Edwards A Layer Clyde the glide, So you have

1079
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: him in the old c J two k get the

1080
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: lead role with a playmaker, play him the first half,

1081
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 1: get the league, let him make plays, and then bring

1082
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 1: in Leonard Fournette and to keep the league clock killing

1083
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: rule in the fourth quarter, the old Lendale White rule.

1084
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: We you need Lendale White to be humble enough to

1085
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: accept that role and the paycheck that comes with it,

1086
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: and it would mean he has to go through the

1087
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: waiver wire probably maybe sit out for a few days,

1088
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:26,959
Speaker 1: nobody picks him up, and then he's like, well, maybe

1089
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: my best bet is go win a Super Bowl with

1090
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and then try to get a contract off

1091
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: of that. To me, that that's intriguing because I don't

1092
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: like the death behind Edwards a laire. You know, it's

1093
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: so fortune smiles on the Chiefs and ways that it's

1094
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: never done before. Because you draft Edwards Hilaire. Let's say

1095
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,399
Speaker 1: they hadn't, and then Damian Williams, you know that wouldn't change.

1096
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: He'd still opt out, I think. And then you're asking

1097
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 1: about maybe Leonard Fournette being your feature back, and nobody

1098
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 1: likes the idea of that. I mean, they've got a

1099
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: few other guys there, but that would be messy. Instead,

1100
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: I think they're one of these teams they mind me

1101
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: a little bit of like the Packer some two thousand eleven.

1102
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 1: You're gonna go fifteen and one and you just got

1103
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: to look out to not get waxed in January and

1104
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: one of these sort of more stunning playoff losses. Uh.

1105
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: It comes to mind what a place to be as

1106
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: a franchise. I uh. I think also, if for Net

1107
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: doesn't want to take that role, maybe call up the

1108
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: real Lendale White. I love that. I think he's that

1109
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: was a fun group Johnson and White for like one

1110
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 1: or two years there. They were good. I I do

1111
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 1: think you can find flaws in this Chiefs team. I

1112
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: mean they the defense was bad enough to give up

1113
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: twenty four points right off the bat to the Texans

1114
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, which could have ended their season for

1115
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: the second straight year. And then we would have just

1116
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 1: talked about how disappointing their defense was all all off season.

1117
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: They're starting cornerback I think right now is gonna be

1118
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:53,760
Speaker 1: Legarious Need a rookie fourth round pick or Rashad Fenton

1119
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: Brelan who suspended for a month and so he'll be back.

1120
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: Is their best cornerback. It's like, okay, they're second best

1121
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:06,240
Speaker 1: pass rusher is either Alex Okaffer you know I'm talking

1122
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 1: about on the edge Brian speaks. It looks like it's

1123
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: gonna be uh who's that passing young I can never

1124
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: say his name is probably starting there. But you know

1125
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: those are questions. You know, those are key spots cornerback,

1126
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: pass rusher. But I mean, I think they might be

1127
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: a very average defense in their in their hopes. I

1128
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 1: guess the worst case scenario is that they're they're back

1129
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: to being a bad defense. It's scary to think about

1130
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes being injured for much of last year and

1131
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 1: what they were still able to pull up. But there

1132
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: has not been a repeat champion since like two thousand three.

1133
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: It's hard to do. I wouldn't pencil it. Pencil knet

1134
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: mark he took the Ravens have Well, that's right, devor Broncos.

1135
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: All right, consider the current state of the Broncos on offense,

1136
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 1: new offensive corner in place. It's Pat Shermer, by the way,

1137
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: new QB coach. They got a couple of new offensive linemen,

1138
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: two new wide receivers, both rookies in a pandemic year.

1139
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: Drew Lock, as has been documented often here, remains a

1140
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: third theoretical answer at quarterback rather than an actual one

1141
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: at this point. The offense, I don't put too much

1142
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: of this. I'll say it. The offense really struggled in

1143
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: a scrimmage this past weekend. So I'm just gonna ask,

1144
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: is it's fair to wonder if the Denver offense is

1145
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: a prime under performer candidate, at least in the early

1146
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: part of the season. It is fair to ask for

1147
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: all the reasons you outlined, but you're not gonna reign

1148
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: on my parade, Dan Hansen, plenty of faith, look I mean,

1149
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: and most of it stems from Jerry Juty, who has been,

1150
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: as advertised in camp Um, already seen as one of

1151
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: the best route runners in the NFL. And it's been

1152
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: phenomenal in camp Um. Albert Oh another rookie, the rookie

1153
00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: tight end looks really good. This team, the depth in

1154
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: their skill position talent compared to where they were two

1155
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: years ago is astonishing. And if they're a little a

1156
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: bit of a freestyle team with Lock, it's like he

1157
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: makes guys better freestyling uh and to the point where

1158
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:14,439
Speaker 1: maybe their defense can carry him. I mean, no, Afan

1159
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: was better once Lock got out there. Philip Lindsay was better.

1160
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 1: Like there, Their receivers were better once Lock got out

1161
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: there because he can make some He can make some

1162
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: plays even if it was out of structure, whereas their

1163
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: previous quarterbacks. God in your county. On the defense to

1164
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: carry this team, I think when the defense gets more

1165
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: than four games this year from Bradley Chubb and I

1166
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: like that a lot. And I think Vic Fangio is

1167
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 1: quietly one of the best defensive coaches around, you know,

1168
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: I mean in ages. My thing is like you talk

1169
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: about luck, he is masterful. You talk about like I'll

1170
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: tell you, I don't think it's masterful as Pat Schremer

1171
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: and I don't. I don't Pat Schermer and like Drew Lock,

1172
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: freestyling don't fit together to me. I mean, I think

1173
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 1: he did a nice job with the Vikings okay, but

1174
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: I still remember Pat Schremer being pinged by Michael Lombardi

1175
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: for like people calling up Lombardi saying, whenever I watch,

1176
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: you know Pat Schirmer's offenses, I know what's happening by

1177
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: looking at the formation one second. So is this can

1178
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 1: he do? I think what you want with all this

1179
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 1: talent and the question mark is he's the right guy?

1180
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think they'll start slow because of

1181
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: what Dan said to I think they are. They could

1182
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: be particularly hurt by the pandemic. But the offensive line,

1183
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: especially on the end here, does look better. It's always

1184
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: been a weakness. They don't really have a right tackle

1185
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: after Jown James opted out, but that's always been a

1186
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 1: pretty big weakness for this team, and on paper they

1187
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: look like they could be a lot better. Dalton Risinger

1188
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 1: looked great as a rookie. Um. You know, they brought

1189
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 1: in a quality starter in Glasgow, and they have a

1190
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: rookie center Cushion Berry that people seem to love, So

1191
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: they could be better upfront. One concern with Bradley Chubb,

1192
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 1: just keep an eye on it. He left the scrimmage early.

1193
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: When that's surgically repaired. Me acted up. He said he

1194
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: didn't feel right. All right, they said it's not serious,

1195
00:59:54,440 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 1: but not good Oakland excuse me, the last Vegas a

1196
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 1: right as Mark Sessler. That kind of remind me a

1197
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: little bit of the Broncos because I look at the Raiders,

1198
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can talk myself into seeing them as

1199
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: a wild card team if things went right. I think

1200
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: Rooten and you know is fine. Mike Mayok has just

1201
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 1: kicked some butt, is GM. You got Henry Ruggs, you

1202
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: got Darren Waller, Josh Jacobs, So you can kind of

1203
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 1: see it coming together as a a frisky a f

1204
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 1: C entry. But then I also look at like the

1205
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: games that they totally blew last season, like when I

1206
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 1: went up, you know, in to watch them play the

1207
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: Jaguars and a historically important final game in Oakland, and

1208
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 1: they totally blew it by being way too safe and

1209
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: conservative and not seizing the moment. And I got screwed

1210
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 1: by the officials in that game. We all know it.

1211
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: Oh well, it is the quarterback in the way of

1212
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 1: his style of play. I'm sorry. That capped a four

1213
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 1: game losing streak down the stretch where they were outscored

1214
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: a hundred and thirty six to forty nine. So I

1215
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 1: just don't think they're all there yet. I mean, I

1216
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 1: they they just as easily feel like an eight and

1217
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 1: eight side piece to me. But I think Greg thinks

1218
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 1: they're a little frisky. Does anyone see them as a

1219
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: sleeping giant what they need piece? Yeah, side of the

1220
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 1: NFL kind of like you kind of keep that keep

1221
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: them hidden, you know you don't. You don't ask the

1222
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 1: team you take out on Saturday night. Keep them a

1223
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 1: little you keep them in the shadows. I think you're

1224
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 1: right Mark that they were like a five and eleven

1225
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 1: team that won a couple of extra games more than

1226
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: they should. Last year. They really weren't a good team.

1227
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: But they're a very different team now. I mean, whether

1228
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 1: these transactions work or not, this is a very young team.

1229
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: They're having their rookies play a lot. They're having their

1230
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 1: second year players play a lot. The free agent pickups

1231
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 1: that they had, like Trayvon Mullen is their number one

1232
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: cornerback right now. After they cut a Mukamara on Monday,

1233
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 1: they're counting on these free agent linebackers they picked up.

1234
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 1: It's just a totally different team. It's a good looking

1235
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 1: offensive line, I kind of want to believe in this

1236
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 1: tight end crew and the running backs. They're gonna have

1237
01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: a lot of heavy sets. They're just gonna be zig

1238
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: while everyone zagging. And I at least like that for

1239
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: a little diversity on my on my Sunday view eat.

1240
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 1: But do you believe in the quarterback? No? I believe

1241
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 1: he's like an eight and eight side piece. I guess

1242
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: there you go. Basically eight made by the way, with

1243
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: an extra playoff spot might actually gets you into January.

1244
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 1: And I think they're nine win type of team though.

1245
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: I I because I do think that there's so much

1246
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 1: room to improve on defense that they should that even

1247
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 1: if they're like the twentieth best defense man, that would

1248
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 1: be a big improvement for them. And I do think

1249
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 1: their offense can be pretty good. They're powny on their offense.

1250
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 1: To be a top ten offense anything lass would be

1251
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 1: a disappointment. What linebacking crew improved more than than the

1252
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:43,479
Speaker 1: Las Vegas one? I mean, Corey Littleton and Greg west

1253
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 1: Is you know, man crush, that's a good little pairing

1254
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 1: right there. Quick. Yeah, the first team, we've run out

1255
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 1: of things to say. Hey, we're just an awe and

1256
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 1: a board, there's no there's more meat on that Derek

1257
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 1: Carr side piece bone, but we don't have time. So

1258
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say I think he'll be okay. I'm

1259
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 1: gonna get blocked again. Finally, Greg closed it out the

1260
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers. Yeah, we mentioned um like the the injuries,

1261
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,439
Speaker 1: like Nick Chubb for instance. It I mean, Bradley Chubb

1262
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 1: is such a mystery right now. There's more mysterious injury

1263
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 1: situations around the league then I think we know because

1264
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: there's less reporting. But Derwin James's injury on Sunday, we know,

1265
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 1: we don't know the extent to it, but I know

1266
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 1: that it's the most caught. I think it's the most costly,

1267
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 1: big time injury that there's been since camp started. It's

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Speaker 1: crushing because I think he brings out the best in

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01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 1: the coaching staff, getting to be more creative. This is

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01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 1: a bad defense with a lot of talent. Last year

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01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 1: they weren't in the top twenty most efficient defenses, a

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01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 1: lot of good players. I know they didn't have Derwin James,

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01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 1: but that's pretty disappointed. He unlocks the cornerbacks, you know,

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01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 1: he he unlocks his tag team partner Racheion Jenkins, who

1275
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 1: played really well. Um, I just think he's such a

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01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 1: unique special talent. Losing Derwin James is devastating for this defense,

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01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 1: and it's gonna put a little more pressure on their

1278
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 1: offense in Tyrod to score some points because I don't

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01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 1: think you can count on them being a top five

1280
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: upside defense when Derwin James is not on the fact.

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01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 1: I don't like that term more pressure on Tyrod Taylor

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01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: to score points. I know that everyone is fascinated with

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01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor right now and it's it's playing out and

1284
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 1: it's not fair to him, but it's almost exactly well, No,

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01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 1: I think it's like a little bit of the hard

1286
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 1: knocks after It's just that that's what happened in Cleveland.

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01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 1: What a leader like, what a guy? And I think

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01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 1: he is And I think the coaching staff really loves

1289
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 1: Anthony Lynne, loves Tyrod Taylor the person and wants Tim

1290
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 1: to be functional. But the problem is Tyrod Taylor stops

1291
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 1: being fun about three weeks from now, and then you

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01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 1: got a rookie quarterback that comes into coaching him. He did,

1293
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 1: he had some moments to be fair when when he

1294
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 1: was in Buffalo. In Buffalo yes, not in Cleveland, And

1295
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: I mean I just think that there was. I don't know,

1296
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 1: come on, I mean, Austin Ekeler to me is the

1297
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 1: centerpiece on that offense, I believe in until the end.

1298
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 1: But their wide receiver position he's not. But look at

1299
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 1: their wide receiver positions. So what how do you you

1300
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 1: want to talk about scaring the defense with a mobile

1301
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 1: quarterback but they can't do anything they have to. They're

1302
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 1: gonna they're immobilized. How how versatile they can be through

1303
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 1: the air. I think it's a rough place for Justin

1304
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 1: Herbert to get starts early too. I don't like that

1305
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 1: at all. Receiver with Mike Williams injured, is jailing guiton

1306
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 1: good luck like um seems to me like a Leonard

1307
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 1: Fournett possibility for a landing spot. But Joshua Kelly, the

1308
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 1: fourth round rookie, is getting as much hype out of

1309
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 1: that camp as anybody on the team, So maybe they

1310
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: don't need Leonard Fournette there. This feels like one of

1311
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 1: those eternally snake bitten franchises. Remember writing about Durwin James

1312
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 1: earlier this summer. If the people that track these guys

1313
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 1: say Derwin James as special as anybody that's come out

1314
01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 1: of that position in decades, and now for back to

1315
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 1: back years before the season starts, he's getting ripped up

1316
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 1: by injured leader too huge, right, hopefully he's back midway through.

1317
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 1: I took him as my number seven seat. I believe

1318
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 1: in you, Tyrode. What a way to go out a

1319
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 1: masterful performance, you know what, Just unleash one more dark please,

1320
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 1: just for the heck of it. He likes it. He's

1321
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 1: actually into the tranquilizer juice. Finally, that was that was good?

1322
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: All right? We just went around the a f C

1323
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 1: and forty eight minutes and we will, we promised before

1324
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Speaker 1: a kickoff Chiefs Texans a week from Thursday. Hit the

1325
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 1: NFC as well. And you know, if you're a long

1326
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 1: time listener that this is UM a fun time of

1327
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 1: the year on the podcast where we really ramp up

1328
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 1: UH in terms of season preview and looking ahead and

1329
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 1: making predictions, all good stuff. So make sure you check

1330
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 1: in Wednesday with our show or a rundown show our

1331
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 1: NFL Network program that we tape UH and airs on

1332
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: Saturday morning, and UH West We're just happy to have

1333
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: you for another Monday with Wes session. Well, if the

1334
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 1: time he works out, excuse me, I want in on

1335
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 1: that NFC forty eight minutes and we do have a

1336
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Speaker 1: little bit of breaking news. Time for breaking news. Yeah,

1337
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 1: hit it. Logan Ryan as a home former Tennessee plays

1338
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 1: New England. Paid billion dollars five million from the Giants.

1339
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 1: Pretty good at this point. They needed him, they need him.

1340
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 1: That is a huge pickup for them. We were just

1341
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 1: talking about how their defense, which is not good looking

1342
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 1: even before DeAndre Baker and these injuries. Uh, they needed somebody.

1343
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 1: Can Logan Ryan play the guitar the way they need

1344
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 1: him to? Maybe not? Uh, Logan Ryan, guy that had

1345
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 1: big numbers that Tom Brady picks six at the end

1346
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 1: of the playoffs. But some people say he's a little limited.

1347
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 1: I guess it depends on how you use them. Hopefully

1348
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 1: you won't get exposed. He's a solid guy. He's he's

1349
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 1: immediately the best player in that in that secondary and

1350
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 1: he's a grown up there that can play. They just

1351
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 1: they just didn't have. They didn't have guys that you

1352
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 1: could just put out there that you could feel comfortable.

1353
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 1: Weren't gonna just get fill aid. I mean, I still

1354
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 1: think there they were a defense. If you're a fantasy

1355
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:30,759
Speaker 1: guy's going up against the giants, you're gonna be everyone

1356
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 1: you're selling James Bradberry short. Oh that's true. I take

1357
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 1: it back. I'm blanking on Bradberry. What better way to

1358
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 1: do it than, you know, take the entire offseason as

1359
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 1: your personal vacation and cash a seven point five million

1360
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 1: dollar check. Uh, you know at the eve of September,

1361
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Speaker 1: you can make it happen. All right, that's it. Thank you,

1362
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 1: our Junifer stepping into Ricky's shoes. You killed it under

1363
01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 1: difficult circumstances. No pressure, O, Diamonds. I did my best.

1364
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 1: I did my best and it was good enough. All right.

1365
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 1: This is Dan Hanson signing off for the Mailman, the

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01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 1: Quiet Storm, the Old Boss, and Diamonds behind the glass.

1367
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 1: I mean that's a good anybody. Anybody would be happy

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01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 1: to be Diamonds. It sounds like a prepper. Two Wednesday,