Speaker 1: I like your hat. I wore mine a couple of.
Speaker 2: Times, your Holy Grailed Donuts hat.
Speaker 1: My Holy Grailled Donuts test. By this time, our donut
Speaker 1: might not be on the menu anymore.
Speaker 2: No, it's not as till the end of November. But
Speaker 2: I took a lady friend of mine and because I thought, like,
Speaker 2: what's a more power power move than bringing a gal
Speaker 2: that you are intrigued by to eat your donut at
Speaker 2: Holy Grail Donuts?
Speaker 1: Did she get all up in that donut?
Speaker 2: Well, we got there and I just walked in. I
Speaker 2: didn't try and be like I'm the guy from the donut.
Speaker 2: I just walked in like a normal customer. And the
Speaker 2: young lady at the cashier rang me up. And then
Speaker 2: some of her colleagues were like, why are you charging him?
Speaker 2: That's Zach from ZB and donald Forever the donut And
Speaker 2: I said, no, no, no, I want to pay. I want
Speaker 2: to give money to the charity. So don't you comp
Speaker 2: me these donuts proceeds they are going to the midnight mission.
Speaker 1: So how's the donut doing? That's the question I really
Speaker 1: want to ask.
Speaker 2: I hope that people are loving the donut and it
Speaker 2: tasted delicious.
Speaker 3: By the way.
Speaker 1: It's it's very tasty.
Speaker 2: My lady friend said, I think that's the best doughnut
Speaker 2: I've ever had.
Speaker 1: I like your lady friend a lot.
Speaker 2: I'm surprised you haven't come met her. We'll see, you know,
Speaker 2: it's early days. We'll see if you get to meet her.
Speaker 2: If she makes the donald cut.
Speaker 1: It's a tough cut.
Speaker 2: But it's a cool hat, right is. It's corduroy, it's
Speaker 2: yellow rock. This this is very danal in Brooklyn vibes absolutely.
Speaker 3: I was looking at it. I was like, that is
Speaker 3: a very cool hat. I was just that. Holy girl, donu,
Speaker 3: it's a couple weeks ago.
Speaker 2: Did you get zb and Donalds forever? I? Oh, you're
Speaker 2: in New York.
Speaker 3: You can't go.
Speaker 2: No, you haven't branched out to New York yet, but
Speaker 2: one day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think. I think I just stopped it and
Speaker 3: didn't actually get something good.
Speaker 2: I know I'm biased, but it is so good, so delicious.
Speaker 1: Scrumped dittly umptious is what I am.
Speaker 2: I didn't sleep very well last night. I had a
Speaker 2: bout of insomnia. So I thought if I I just
Speaker 2: did a cold plunge, and I thought if I wore
Speaker 2: bright colors. I would be really awake for this podcast.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, what do you mean you didn't sleep
Speaker 1: very well? So you cold plunged.
Speaker 2: I had some nights I have bouts of insomnia where
Speaker 2: I toss and turn no matter what I do, and
Speaker 2: I wanted to be, you know, awake and lively for
Speaker 2: the podcast, so I got in my cold plunge.
Speaker 1: Got it. I thought you were saying you were having
Speaker 1: a hard time sleeping, so to battle that last night,
Speaker 1: you decided to cold plunge.
Speaker 2: No, that would not have worked done.
Speaker 1: I don't think I was gonna say, dude, I think
Speaker 1: your math's a little often that uh, and that nights.
Speaker 2: My brain is just like, we're not doing it, bro.
Speaker 2: I know you tried all the things I did, all
Speaker 2: the things I took, I did all my whole regimen
Speaker 2: to fucking go to bed, and my brain was like, no,
Speaker 2: we're gonna fucking think till two thirty in the morning.
Speaker 1: Did you have something to do the next day?
Speaker 2: No, I just had a couple of things on my mind.
Speaker 2: And I also do think I need to chill with caffeine.
Speaker 2: To be honest, I think I gotta do an earlier
Speaker 2: caffeine cut off. That's do you have a caffeine cut off?
Speaker 3: You know, Daniel, you do, Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: I I'm learning as a fifty year old man that
Speaker 1: the caffeine, it does, it does it. I don't even
Speaker 1: think it wakes me up anymore, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It doesn't do.
Speaker 3: It's just an addiction. It feels nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's yeah, that's what it is. You just like
Speaker 1: that little jitter that you get and the bow movement
Speaker 1: that it causes.
Speaker 2: I know, when we're on set, you and I both
Speaker 2: have many years of being like, oh shit, we're tired,
Speaker 2: and we got to go be silly and wacky and
Speaker 2: fucking go crazy, and we both blast our bodies with caffeine.
Speaker 2: And that's fine on set, but when I'm home and
Speaker 2: it's just like you know, it'll be like two thirds
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh man, I'm gonna make myself a
Speaker 2: big ass espresso and I just don't need to be
Speaker 2: having it that late in the day.
Speaker 3: For me. I got to stop at like noon.
Speaker 1: I think, ain't I mean, ain't nothing wrong with an
Speaker 1: espresso at noon. But that's just me. That's with you.
Speaker 2: But you don't suffer from something. But also you smoke.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do.
Speaker 2: Gonja does the ganjit put you to bed?
Speaker 1: It keeps you up? Actually, what happens is the ganju
Speaker 1: can knock you down.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well maybe if you don't, you're not switching
Speaker 2: to the right, you're not switching to what he calls.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I smoke. I smoke ta teva not into
Speaker 1: gup right. I like the I like the feeling of being.
Speaker 1: I like the caffeine feeling of it. Right, And what
Speaker 1: happens is, I'll go to bed early, but I'll but
Speaker 1: I'll also wake up early. So if I go to bed,
Speaker 1: it like, I'll try to go down sometimes right when
Speaker 1: the kids go down. So sometimes the kids go down
Speaker 1: to day thirty. I'll try and be in bed at nine.
Speaker 1: And when I do shit like that, I'll wake up
Speaker 1: at like three thirty, four thirty in the morning.
Speaker 3: Whoa that's ready to go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ready to go to smoke some more weed.
Speaker 3: And so yeah, I hear you.
Speaker 2: Well, I try I try everything. I try natural remedies,
Speaker 2: I try prescription remedies, and then the prescription ones. Sometimes
Speaker 2: you feel the next day and so you're tired, and
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's just something a battle. But you know,
Speaker 2: it's not that big a deal.
Speaker 3: It's not.
Speaker 2: It's people have much bigger problems than on insomnia.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean it can lead to a lot of things,
Speaker 1: and so you know I I I don't sleep well, bro,
Speaker 1: I just don't. That's just what it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you see this mustache I'm trying to grow.
Speaker 3: Oh, look at that. What do you think of coming
Speaker 3: in I'm trying to grow a mustache.
Speaker 1: Looks like you got some like like you drink some
Speaker 1: and you have some shit on your lip.
Speaker 2: Must Oh you're saying, my mustache looks like ship on
Speaker 2: my lip.
Speaker 1: It looks like you went like this actually sound effects machine.
Speaker 3: It's good. Listen.
Speaker 2: I want to see what I can do with this mustache.
Speaker 2: Donald you you both. I'm talking to two men with
Speaker 2: glorious mustaches.
Speaker 1: I do have a great mustache.
Speaker 2: Channel's beard, man, that's very full.
Speaker 1: That's very impressive.
Speaker 2: Speaking of full beards, I went to into its inoit
Speaker 2: Dome and watched.
Speaker 1: The Clippers play how does full Oh? Because I've met
Speaker 1: great job, James Harden job.
Speaker 2: I've never seen a more glorious beard than James.
Speaker 1: Nice segue, my guy.
Speaker 2: It's very beautiful. First of all, it's all state of
Speaker 2: the art. The whole I think they call it the
Speaker 2: halo of screens is really cool. It seems smaller than
Speaker 2: other arenas. I think, I don't know how many its seats,
Speaker 2: but it does. It's certainly not nearly as.
Speaker 3: Big as Staples.
Speaker 2: But like they said, they have the wall, like the
Speaker 2: seats are very steep, so everyone has a pretty sick view.
Speaker 1: And that's always good.
Speaker 2: And you know, I don't know if the Jazz and
Speaker 2: the and the Clippers, if that was a particularly good matchup, Donald,
Speaker 2: did you watch the game?
Speaker 1: You know what? I just saw the blowout that was
Speaker 1: the Jazz and the Clippers. Clippers destroyed them, and then
Speaker 1: the next night went out and beat Golden State by three.
Speaker 1: James Harden is now second on the all time three
Speaker 1: point scoring list. There's only one other person on that
Speaker 1: list that's above him, and that person is Steph Curry
Speaker 1: and they're both in the league right now.
Speaker 2: So James Harden is really good.
Speaker 1: James Harden at one point, I mean he's top seventy five.
Speaker 1: James Harden at one point was the best offensive weapon
Speaker 1: in the NBA at one point, for like three seasons straight.
Speaker 1: He developed uh, he you know, he paid attention to
Speaker 1: the rules of the game and developed let me see
Speaker 1: what what I call it, I found a loophole and
Speaker 1: has now developed this thing called I mean, the step
Speaker 1: back was always there, but now because of this, what's
Speaker 1: called a gather in the NBA. After you you gather,
Speaker 1: you're allowed two steps. And he found a way to
Speaker 1: turn his gather from his bounce behind a three point
Speaker 1: line into a step side to side, which is now
Speaker 1: legal in the NBA, which was never legal, and it's
Speaker 1: and he was able to score so many fucking points
Speaker 1: doing that and freaking throwing his body into defenders and
Speaker 1: getting fouled. Oh my god. At one point nobody could
Speaker 1: score in clips like him, And still to this day
Speaker 1: he's pretty good.
Speaker 2: Can I tell you something I noticed from sitting on
Speaker 2: the floor that I never noticed before. It seems like
Speaker 2: everybody's traveling. Now, maybe I don't understand the traveling rules.
Speaker 1: You're right, so it seems to me when you're.
Speaker 2: Sitting on the court, you're like the little I remember
Speaker 2: of of of basketball rules, like, isn't that traveling? But
Speaker 2: then people are like, no, you're allowed to do all
Speaker 2: the ship You're saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, the rules change. That a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of things changed since we were kids.
Speaker 2: People are just running. It's like it's like it's literally
Speaker 2: it's like it's.
Speaker 1: Like dog ball and no and no and no touching either,
Speaker 1: and no touching you like you're not allowed to. Really.
Speaker 1: Back when we were kids, you could take your hand
Speaker 1: and put it in the back of a player.
Speaker 2: Or no, these guys.
Speaker 1: Let me finish, and you would be able to if
Speaker 1: you were strong enough, you could control any player. Now,
Speaker 1: if you put your hands on somebody, it's a file
Speaker 1: automatically right and so right. So you have to move
Speaker 1: your feet, you have to use your body, and and
Speaker 1: and and they're still following each other. But refs don't
Speaker 1: call it like I mean, they never called it back
Speaker 1: in the day. But it's a little bit softer than
Speaker 1: it was. I'm not saying it's soft.
Speaker 2: So you're saying, after you have the ball you can
Speaker 2: take two full steps.
Speaker 1: No, you can you after you have the ball, you're
Speaker 1: supposed to only be able to take a step after
Speaker 1: you've put the ball down to drift.
Speaker 3: That's not happening.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you your report, that's not what's happening. Absolutely not,
Speaker 1: absolutely not.
Speaker 2: And there actually was one traveling call, and I was like,
Speaker 2: you called that one, but not the forty others have seen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's various, stute Zach. Actually that's various because basketball.
Speaker 1: That's the one complaint I do have with basketball. Giannis
Speaker 1: Entertakoumpo gets to run up and down the court like
Speaker 1: a deer and never put the ball down on the floor.
Speaker 4: Yeah, speaking of a stute Zach, you were right. Crypto
Speaker 4: dot Com Arena Staples if you will, has a twenty
Speaker 4: thousand person cap into a dome has eighteen so okay justice. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and then I heard and then I heard when they
Speaker 4: do concerts there, which you know they just opened, they
Speaker 4: remove a like a big chunk because of where they
Speaker 4: put the stage stage.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 2: It's even less. But it seems like an amazing place
Speaker 2: to see a show because of just all the different
Speaker 2: vantage points.
Speaker 1: Think about all the venues California has. Now, Like if
Speaker 1: you're doing a tour you have like seven stops in California.
Speaker 1: You gotta do state. I mean, you gotta do shoots.
Speaker 2: By how big you are, how much you can handle.
Speaker 2: I think Olivia Rigo was there recently.
Speaker 1: I would try to do all of them. I'd be like, look,
Speaker 1: this is what we're doing when we get to.
Speaker 2: Shoot your la wand I shoot it at one place
Speaker 2: because people aren't going to.
Speaker 1: Harry Styles was here for a month.
Speaker 2: Bro Car members here. Yeah, but they do the same
Speaker 2: venue over and over again. Anyway, it was really cool.
Speaker 2: And they have this private you know how like that
Speaker 2: we talked about the Disney h Secret Club. They have
Speaker 2: a secret club. Yeah, they have like a secret club
Speaker 2: underneath the and that I got invited to.
Speaker 3: And it's not.
Speaker 2: Open every game or every show, but like I don't know,
Speaker 2: like once a month or something, or maybe after concerts
Speaker 2: they'll do it too. There's like a secret underground club.
Speaker 1: Did you go?
Speaker 3: I went? It was cool.
Speaker 1: DJ.
Speaker 2: It was just like it's like a it's like a
Speaker 2: small hidden nightclub that you can only by invite only.
Speaker 2: And then they told me this bit of trivia that
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's true, but it's they said
Speaker 2: it that it's the only place in California that will
Speaker 2: serve liquor till four in the morning legally, like they
Speaker 2: got some waiver from the governor that this little secret
Speaker 2: nightclub at the bottom of the dome is the only
Speaker 2: place that you can drink till four in the morning.
Speaker 1: Bomber's smart man. He's trying to keep his players close.
Speaker 1: He's trying to make sure.
Speaker 2: Well, the players didn't come in there. I mean I
Speaker 2: didn't see any players.
Speaker 1: At four o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 2: It was like a VIP you know, clerb.
Speaker 1: These were there celebrities up in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was some celebrity.
Speaker 1: Was grown ups. Clippers bring in a grown crowd.
Speaker 2: What's the different, Like, who's the crowd for the Clippers?
Speaker 1: I would say the ones that don't go to Laker games.
Speaker 2: Oh really, it's like the they're like the they're like
Speaker 2: the step child.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, yes, now.
Speaker 2: But Lakers Clippers games will be great.
Speaker 1: Right, Oh, it depends me. Look, so here's the thing.
Speaker 1: The Clippers haven't won in a really really really I
Speaker 1: think Bill Walton was the last time the Clippers won,
Speaker 1: and they were in San Diego when they won a championship.
Speaker 1: Even when you go see the Clippers play the Lakers
Speaker 1: in this arena, it'll be filled with more Laker fans
Speaker 1: than Clipper fans.
Speaker 3: It's just far, by the way.
Speaker 2: The only thing I have a problem with it is
Speaker 2: far Inglewood well from my house it was an hour
Speaker 2: I don't know, really far from your house.
Speaker 1: Well, we make that. We make tracks like that for basketball,
Speaker 1: for the kid, right, for rock and so it. You know,
Speaker 1: forty five minutes in the car now nowadays.
Speaker 2: Well, if you want to bring your kids, uh to
Speaker 2: the to Clippers. I got the I got the hook up.
Speaker 1: We would love that.
Speaker 3: Actually, I know.
Speaker 1: The night's game was amazing.
Speaker 2: When I showed you my seats, you said you you
Speaker 2: acted like they weren't good.
Speaker 1: And then I said, then you get you were like
Speaker 1: just kidding. Yeah, exactly, don't fucking make me.
Speaker 2: Who was there was Floyd may Merriweather Mayweather Mayweatherwe Yeah.
Speaker 1: He's one of the greatest boxers ever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want him to fight Jake Paul.
Speaker 1: No, no, he's too old too, he thought.
Speaker 3: Loganol, right, Yeah, did you win?
Speaker 1: Did well? Yeah? He did. Knocked that nigga, he knocked
Speaker 1: He knocked that nigg out, Yeah he did. He knocked
Speaker 1: him out and then held him up. He punched them
Speaker 1: motherfucker hard and then held him and then low Logan
Speaker 1: woke up and then they continued to fight. Kind of
Speaker 1: all right, So I got it. Let's let's talk about
Speaker 1: this before we bring our guests in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't have a ton of time, so let's
Speaker 2: get in there.
Speaker 1: We got to get into it, all right.
Speaker 2: Keep in mind this is going to air long after
Speaker 2: the fight was on, so don't bore people.
Speaker 1: But no doubt ahead. What did you think of the fight?
Speaker 2: I thought I was surprised by by Mike. I thought
Speaker 2: he was going to be better the hype videos that
Speaker 2: they showed. I know, they're just clips and they can
Speaker 2: cut anything together, but he looked he looked stronger and
Speaker 2: more confident in the hype videos, and I was surprised
Speaker 2: by how old and fragile he looked in the ring,
Speaker 2: and I and and Jake Paul. I saw him even
Speaker 2: say at the end like I let up because I
Speaker 2: didn't want to hurt.
Speaker 1: Him, and I applaud him for that also because at
Speaker 1: one point he was just fighting an old man. Dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that's one point.
Speaker 1: No, I don't know. In the beginning, Mike seemed like
Speaker 1: he was ready to go, and then they clinched, and
Speaker 1: then after the clinch, Mike kind of softened up in
Speaker 1: every thing like that, But in the beginning before Jake
Speaker 1: put the weight on him. In the beginning, oh, my god.
Speaker 1: There was like a good thirty seconds where I was like,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a fight, and then everything kind of.
Speaker 2: I've seen I punched a few times. Mike didn't look good.
Speaker 1: At all, but he didn't get knocked out, which is great,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, and I applaud Jake
Speaker 1: Paul for backing off towards the end and not trying
Speaker 1: to you know. And then what was disturbing was listening
Speaker 1: to Jake Paul's trainer's being and I get it, it's boxing,
Speaker 1: this is what it is. But Jake's bought Jake Paul's
Speaker 1: trainers saying, come on, man, knock Mike out. Go at
Speaker 1: that motherfucker. Beat Mike's ass. It was just like, wait
Speaker 1: a second, dude.
Speaker 2: That was Rosie Perez, the commentator.
Speaker 1: You know, she's from Brooklyn. She she knows about them
Speaker 1: hand pieces.
Speaker 2: I just didn't understand the connection. I mean, I love
Speaker 2: Rosie Perez.
Speaker 1: I didn't understand then, you know about a two piece
Speaker 1: and a biscuit?
Speaker 2: Did you? Could you get in there and and fight?
Speaker 1: No? Okay, I fight for my family and I fight
Speaker 1: for my life. I don't fight for I mean, unless
Speaker 1: I was getting twenty million dollars and if anyway, hold up,
Speaker 1: and if Jake Paul was gonna take it easy on
Speaker 1: me like that, yes, for.
Speaker 2: Twenty million dollars, would you fight Jake Paul too?
Speaker 1: And he was going to fight like that and not
Speaker 1: try and knock me out and humiliate me?
Speaker 2: Well, no, I think he's going to try and knock
Speaker 2: you out because you're.
Speaker 1: Not bro are twenty million? Well, let me think about
Speaker 1: a twenty million. Yeah, you got to think about the concussion. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm he trains every day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's really committed. I don't know the guy. I
Speaker 2: don't know the guy from Adam, but he looks like
Speaker 2: a good boxer to me.
Speaker 1: He's heavier than I am.
Speaker 2: I really like the movie and Nora. I really want
Speaker 2: to highly recommend that to my.
Speaker 1: Friend since we are recommending movies. Okay, tell me about Anura.
Speaker 2: On Nora is an incredible movie. I'm speechless. It's just
Speaker 2: this girl. Her name is is it Mikey Madison Daniel?
Speaker 2: Let me check, let me get her name right. But
Speaker 2: she is just a phenomenal actress. She was on Better
Speaker 2: Things as a as a young teenage girl and now
Speaker 2: she's a young woman. And the movie is sort of
Speaker 2: a Cinderella story about the son of a Russian oligarch
Speaker 2: and he falls in love with this woman who's a
Speaker 2: stripper and a sex worker, and then they get married.
Speaker 2: I won't ruin anything that's not on the trailer. They
Speaker 2: go get married, and then the Russian oligarch father and
Speaker 2: his henchman fly into town to make sure that that
Speaker 2: gets broken up. But it is really, really well acted
Speaker 2: and I was blown away by it. Mikey Madison, Mikey
Speaker 2: Madison is her name. She is so talented. I think
Speaker 2: this young lady could win the Oscar. She is okay,
Speaker 2: puhhenomenal a Nora, I was lucky enough to have the screener,
Speaker 2: so I watched it at home. But it's it's still
Speaker 2: playing in theaters or maybe by the time airs, it'll
Speaker 2: be uh, it'll be streaming, right, Danell, because we're this
Speaker 2: airs in January.
Speaker 3: There's in January.
Speaker 2: I bet it will be on your streaming platform. So
Speaker 2: check just Nora A n O R. What do you
Speaker 2: want to recommend?
Speaker 3: Donald?
Speaker 1: I watched two movies, believe it or not. Really what
Speaker 1: I watched Saturday night?
Speaker 2: Oh that's that's I didn't know that was available for
Speaker 2: the streaming.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna be honest with you. These
Speaker 1: young these young actors and actresses in this movie are
Speaker 1: pretty good man at doing these Look. Man, it's very
Speaker 1: interesting to watch a movie and see somebody who can
Speaker 1: make you feel like, wow, that is dan Aykroyd or
Speaker 1: wow that is Chevy Chase. Not necessarily I don't know
Speaker 1: them personally, but my imagination of them or my interpretation
Speaker 1: of them from watching them, these young men and women
Speaker 1: did their thing, man like I was very It was
Speaker 1: very impressive. And if this is a true story, Lauren
Speaker 1: Michael's yout to real og man, you the.
Speaker 2: True og I think it is a true story.
Speaker 1: If it's a true story, I mean, I don't know much.
Speaker 1: I don't know Lauren very well. I've met him once.
Speaker 1: But dude, you are a g man. And way to
Speaker 1: believe in your cast and way to believe in your
Speaker 1: idea and wow, dude, wow.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna check that out. I can't believe you made
Speaker 2: it through a non superhero movie. What's the other thing
Speaker 2: you watched?
Speaker 1: Alien Romulus, Let's go, let's go.
Speaker 3: Do you really like that?
Speaker 1: It's pretty good?
Speaker 2: All right? Reid Scott is here. What a career this
Speaker 2: guy's had. Dude, he works, he works, oh lot, got
Speaker 2: a lot of good stories. He's on Deep and Mazel
Speaker 2: and he's often known for playing the jerk. But I've
Speaker 2: met him and he's a lovely man. Donald Countison for
Speaker 2: Reid Scott.
Speaker 5: We made about a bunch of dogs and I.
Speaker 6: Said, he's the stormy neph So yetta here, yeada, here.
Speaker 2: There is Look at you, Look at you. You're so handsome.
Speaker 1: Are you home?
Speaker 7: Are you working?
Speaker 1: Where are you?
Speaker 2: He's read Scott, He's always working. A guy's probably anybody.
Speaker 2: I never have a time off.
Speaker 1: I am. I'm in New York, Archer, I'm in New York.
Speaker 2: Read Thanks for coming on, man. Donald and I both
Speaker 2: find you very entertaining.
Speaker 7: Thank you.
Speaker 1: You you work a lot, a.
Speaker 3: Lot of How can you help?
Speaker 2: Donald? And I get to understand.
Speaker 1: I understand how this is possible? Bro? And is this
Speaker 1: all an illusion? Like you work a lot in spurts
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you're Do you ever have
Speaker 1: time off? That's the question?
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I mean I feel like any actor
Speaker 7: you sort of you have the time off exactly when
Speaker 7: you don't want it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, So I don't want it now.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, it comes and goes. I'm extremely grateful
Speaker 7: that at the moment, I am busy. But you know,
Speaker 7: look like anybody you know, during COVID code was rough
Speaker 7: and the strike was rough, and I have a family.
Speaker 7: I have a wife and two kids, so time off
Speaker 7: is certainly important to me. But I think you know
Speaker 7: right now, I like being busy. I wish I could
Speaker 7: be busier at home. I'll be honest with that. It's
Speaker 7: kind of a drag to always be on the road.
Speaker 2: But yeah, now where do you based.
Speaker 7: I'm based in La Okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Reid, we had Tony Hale on the show because
Speaker 2: Donald and I both love VIEP so much and we
Speaker 2: just we're so interested in the process. And I'm sure
Speaker 2: you talked about this a thousand times, but please indulge us. Sure,
Speaker 2: what was it like, because you know, when Donald and
Speaker 2: I made scrubs, we would rehearse on the day and
Speaker 2: we would we would find extra jokes and we were
Speaker 2: allowed to improve and stuff. But the VEEP process sounds
Speaker 2: like it was a little unique in that you guys
Speaker 2: made you would rehearse beforehand, and then some of those
Speaker 2: improvs would go into the script.
Speaker 3: How did that?
Speaker 2: How did that work?
Speaker 7: The best way to describe it? And I love pulling
Speaker 7: back the curtain on Veep and so many people it's
Speaker 7: really interesting that so many people are interested in the
Speaker 7: process of how we made Vieep, which I gotta be honest,
Speaker 7: of all the other things I've done, no one's ever
Speaker 7: really given a shit about the process.
Speaker 2: Oh we are because we love comedy, dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean. And that was top
Speaker 1: notch comedy. Yeah, everybody on that show was really incredible
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Uh, and the way it was
Speaker 1: shot too, And so are we just wondering? Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: to get to to this, this is why this is.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's why we're asking.
Speaker 7: Sorry, Oh no, I love talking about it because it
Speaker 7: was it was so unique. Honestly, I I think it's
Speaker 7: something that you know, you guys obviously know comedy well,
Speaker 7: so I think people that have an eye for comedy
Speaker 7: can see that something was very different about how he
Speaker 7: did Veep. And I think that's what sort of you know,
Speaker 7: naturally leads to that question, what was the process? Like,
Speaker 7: The best and easiest way that I have found to
Speaker 7: describe it is it was a distillation process and or
Speaker 7: Amanda y Nucci. Absolute genius, just comedy genius. He ran
Speaker 7: our show like a laboratory and he was doctor Frankenstein
Speaker 7: and we were all part of his experiment, and it
Speaker 7: was really cool. He didn't really you know that there
Speaker 7: was there was a lot of respect, and he led
Speaker 7: us into the process in a way that actors don't
Speaker 7: usually get let into the writing process of a show
Speaker 7: like he let us in. But yeah, he would have
Speaker 7: us come to London for weeks before we would start shooting,
Speaker 7: some months before we were set to start shooting, and
Speaker 7: there would be scripts and some sort of sketches and
Speaker 7: some outlines of future episodes and we would just rehearse.
Speaker 7: We would get it on his feet as quickly as possible,
Speaker 7: talking through it. We would rehearse it as written, and
Speaker 7: there'd be this sort of like phalanx of British writers
Speaker 7: on the outside of this like large conference room that
Speaker 7: we were in, and they're all like furiously like scribbling
Speaker 7: notes and typing away while we're doing it, and you're
Speaker 7: feeling very judged, Lisa in the early days, and we'd
Speaker 7: be encouraged to improvise a bit and then we'd go away.
Speaker 7: We'd go to you know, go out to dinner, you know,
Speaker 7: go to sleep, come back the next day and the
Speaker 7: writers during the night had rewritten the script to incorporate
Speaker 7: the improv or like you know, they cherry picked the
Speaker 7: fun stuff that we came up with on that previous
Speaker 7: day and they would bake that into the next script,
Speaker 7: and then we would we would do it all again
Speaker 7: and again and again and again. And we would do
Speaker 7: this for sometimes four or five, six seven scripts at
Speaker 7: a time.
Speaker 3: So it's so cool.
Speaker 7: I'm never heard that, And I think to be host
Speaker 7: it was.
Speaker 2: Hard, know what I mean, look at the results, look
Speaker 2: at the results.
Speaker 1: And also I think shows kind of do to do it,
Speaker 1: but it's a way more rush project. So like five
Speaker 1: camera or sit or four camera, that's we're gonna write.
Speaker 1: We'll do the run through if you you know, on
Speaker 1: some shows you're encouraged to improv. If it works the
Speaker 1: next day, your improv's in the script all the way
Speaker 1: up until you know you shoot. But that's five days.
Speaker 1: You guys would take that's really impressive and then take
Speaker 1: time off after. Would it ever be the same when
Speaker 1: you got there, We're like, when you got to shoot,
Speaker 1: it would the blocking still be the same.
Speaker 7: Oh no, it was no, No, it was really more
Speaker 7: like we used the rehearsal process like we would call
Speaker 7: it like the basement tapes, because it really was this
Speaker 7: stuff that was just sort of we had like drama turks.
Speaker 7: It was really weird like what we had. We had
Speaker 7: these these group of assistants that effectively were drama turks
Speaker 7: and they were just taking notes on continuity and oh
Speaker 7: you know this goes back to that, and they would
Speaker 7: just we had volumes of notes that we could refer
Speaker 7: back to and it was a very unselfish process and
Speaker 7: that someone would come up with a joke for themselves
Speaker 7: or for someone else, or or a writer would come
Speaker 7: up with a joke and we'd love it on the
Speaker 7: day and we were like, wait, where did that come from?
Speaker 7: But that isn't that calling back and no one knew
Speaker 7: who came up with it, and no one cared.
Speaker 3: That wasn't really the point.
Speaker 2: We would do it on Scrubs, but it was like
Speaker 2: the classic way in the moment. So it's like, okay,
Speaker 2: we get to blocking rehearsal where we'd do it as
Speaker 2: written and then between the actors, some who we improve
Speaker 2: more than others, and then and the other writers. You know,
Speaker 2: we would tweak it, add that joke. Oh that's funny,
Speaker 2: I'll improve this. Then we would do it. And then
Speaker 2: after we did it, and we would like then we
Speaker 2: would start just riffing stuff. And you know Bill's big
Speaker 2: rule was just get it as written and then you
Speaker 2: can fuck around. And then we would do things where
Speaker 2: like if you just had a punchline, you would just
Speaker 2: do like six things in a row, just so in
Speaker 2: the edit room, you know, he'd have all these options
Speaker 2: for which one, uh might work. But the idea of
Speaker 2: like taking that process and going to another country and
Speaker 2: just sort of work shopping it. I mean, that's brilliant.
Speaker 2: And that and and and takes commitment from the cast
Speaker 2: and from the writers, and money and a lot of dedication.
Speaker 2: That's just not something that that I've that I've seen
Speaker 2: in another show do and and it and the proof
Speaker 2: is in the pudding because the show is just to
Speaker 2: me on the next level of funny.
Speaker 1: I just know way you could come away from that
Speaker 1: not knowing who your character was.
Speaker 7: Oh god, no, No, you're absolutely right. You're absolutely right.
Speaker 7: You felt a real custodianship over your character. Very early on,
Speaker 7: and to the writer's credit and to Armando's credit, and
Speaker 7: then even you know the new When Armando left the
Speaker 7: show after season four and David Mandel, you know, from
Speaker 7: Seinfeld and from Kurb came in and sort of took over.
Speaker 7: They honored that process and they sort of honored that relationship.
Speaker 7: And I remember specifically when David came aboard, he called
Speaker 7: us all individually and was like, you know your character
Speaker 7: And he said this to everybody, You guys know your
Speaker 7: character better than any of these writers, because you've lived it.
Speaker 7: You've done this crazy process. So we want to hear
Speaker 7: from you, like you guide us. You tell us what's inside,
Speaker 7: like what's out of bounds, tell us when we go
Speaker 7: too far, tell us when to pull it back in.
Speaker 7: And it was amazing to have that kind of input.
Speaker 7: I appreciate it more now in retrospect. At the time,
Speaker 7: I found it in readibly difficult. I really did.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't know what why Because you didn't feel comfortable
Speaker 2: with the improvisational stuff.
Speaker 7: There was a little bit of that, just because we
Speaker 7: were called upon so much to do so much improvising,
Speaker 7: and I, you know, I haven't a background in improv
Speaker 7: but I mean when you're running alongside you know, Matt Walsh, Julia,
Speaker 7: Louis dreyif is, Tony Hale. It's like, at least in
Speaker 7: the early days, there was a lot I felt there
Speaker 7: was a lot of pressure to keep up and to
Speaker 7: always be like, you know, how do I be funny?
Speaker 7: How do I pop these like these little one liners
Speaker 7: off right, and just that process of even when we
Speaker 7: were in Baltimore, in the dark days of shooting in Baltimore.
Speaker 2: That's when you started, you started shooting it there.
Speaker 7: We did the first four seasons in Baltimore.
Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't know that. That was just to have
Speaker 2: the access to.
Speaker 3: The exteriors exactly exactly right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then when in later seasons you would just
Speaker 2: go there for like a week or something.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we go to DC, we come back to Baltimore.
Speaker 7: Even we came to New York a couple of times,
Speaker 7: uh to get exteriors.
Speaker 2: But where were the sets they were in la Uh?
Speaker 7: No, we when during the Baltimore days we were, they
Speaker 7: had a set built. It was like an old mattress
Speaker 7: factory in Columbia, Maryland. That was I didn't know that,
Speaker 7: not soundproof, not heated.
Speaker 1: No, they never are when you when you're not in lape.
Speaker 2: Think we'll just find a warehouse, but then it doesn't
Speaker 2: really work.
Speaker 7: Like where's the bathroom? Oh, that's what we forgot. But
Speaker 7: also because we were there together, you know, we were
Speaker 7: sequestered essentially in Baltimore, so there was nothing else to
Speaker 7: do on the weekend, so we werehearsed. So Saturdays and
Speaker 7: Sundays we'd all go into the studio and just like
Speaker 7: funk around and like try to come up.
Speaker 2: With really shows. It really shows what special how special
Speaker 2: was You're such a good asshole? Do you find no,
Speaker 2: you play a prick so well? I wonder when people
Speaker 2: who are fans and even masl which we'll get into,
Speaker 2: you were such a fucking asshole. Do you do you
Speaker 2: feel are people surprised when they meet you in the
Speaker 2: Are they expecting you to be a jerk?
Speaker 7: I think maybe a little bit. I know I did
Speaker 7: a movie with David Wayne, who again comedy genius, so
Speaker 7: I really you know, I came up, you know, high school,
Speaker 7: in college watching The State was the State and upright
Speaker 7: Citizen's Brigade where everything to me, I had never seen
Speaker 7: comedy like that before and that really inspired me. To
Speaker 7: try to be a part of it. So I worked
Speaker 7: with David Wayne on a movie that Matt Walsh produced,
Speaker 7: and we were shooting in France, and we showed up
Speaker 7: and the first two days it was I wasn't shooting
Speaker 7: for a couple of days, but we're just sort of
Speaker 7: hanging out. And I got to know David and he
Speaker 7: turned to me one day of breakfast and he's like,
Speaker 7: it's like a prosthetic. I was like, well, sorry, what
Speaker 7: he's like the character your character in Veep. He's like,
Speaker 7: the way you put it on in contrast to you,
Speaker 7: it's like it's like a prosthetic. And I was like,
Speaker 7: thank you very much. I really appreciated that because it's
Speaker 7: not me.
Speaker 1: That's you know, right, But that's an awesome compliment. It's
Speaker 1: like you tad this nose and you were like, you
Speaker 1: know what, let.
Speaker 7: Me just I loved it, and I loved it.
Speaker 1: Let's take a break.
Speaker 2: We'll be right back after these fine words. Bill Lawrence
Speaker 2: is a big fan of yours. Did you guys ever
Speaker 2: work together? Did you read for scrubs?
Speaker 7: I did?
Speaker 1: I did for JD.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was it was did you what.
Speaker 2: Was your process?
Speaker 3: Like? What happened oh I got the part.
Speaker 7: It was great.
Speaker 3: I mean, I know that Bill.
Speaker 2: Loves you because I ran into you with Bill and
Speaker 2: Bill was like, oh, I love reading such a good actor,
Speaker 2: and I knew I thought I heard that you were
Speaker 2: up for JD. But I didn't tell me the story
Speaker 2: because I we should do that, by the way, we
Speaker 2: should have some I don't know if some of some
Speaker 2: of the people that got that I read with, I
Speaker 2: don't know if they'd want to come on, but well, actually,
Speaker 2: you know, my.
Speaker 1: God, I would love it.
Speaker 7: I love it was dude. Scrubs was a fucking awesome
Speaker 7: show I saw. I've seen every episode, every single episode.
Speaker 7: You guys were doing something just so we can officially,
Speaker 7: you know, get all the mutual you know, adoration and
Speaker 7: shit out of the way. You guys were doing stuff
Speaker 7: that no one else was doing. It was a different
Speaker 7: brand of comedy at the time. And yeah, I as
Speaker 7: appreciated as it was. I still think it's going to
Speaker 7: be something that like future generation is going to find
Speaker 7: later and be like, oh shit, this was like, this
Speaker 7: was way different than what people were doing at that time.
Speaker 2: Wait, so tell us what your please tell me what
Speaker 2: your audition experience was like. And you obviously did great
Speaker 2: because Bill loves you. So what was it like?
Speaker 7: It was my first audition. It was my very ever
Speaker 7: ever ever. I mean I maybe had, like, you know,
Speaker 7: like for a commercial or something like that before, but
Speaker 7: I remember reading the script and just falling in love
Speaker 7: with it, falling in love with it and loving the
Speaker 7: character and loving the tone, and I just got it.
Speaker 7: It was one of those things where immediately it was
Speaker 7: like whether I've become a part of the show or not,
Speaker 7: like this is a good show. And I went in
Speaker 7: for it and was incredibly nervous, and I remember there
Speaker 7: was a casting director, Oh my god, his name escapes
Speaker 7: me right now out.
Speaker 1: Of New York.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 3: No what's his name?
Speaker 2: Brian, Brian Brett. Yeah, Brett?
Speaker 1: Is that it?
Speaker 7: I'll take your word for it.
Speaker 1: God, it's been out.
Speaker 7: But I remember I loved it, and I thought I
Speaker 7: thought I did great.
Speaker 2: I really Tbbie Breton, Tbbie.
Speaker 1: Is that right way to go with that? Yeah?
Speaker 7: And I walked out of there thinking like, oh man,
Speaker 7: I fucking nailed it. I can't wait. This is great.
Speaker 7: And I I think I had made it back to
Speaker 7: Brooklyn when my agent called me and was like, Hey,
Speaker 7: I got to talk to you about your audition. It's like,
Speaker 7: oh god, what he's like? The casting director called me
Speaker 7: and said basically like like like what was he doing
Speaker 7: in there?
Speaker 1: I was like what?
Speaker 7: And he's like, oh, man, he made these choices that
Speaker 7: were just so not on the page and just really
Speaker 7: weird stuff. And he said, like, my Cadence, I didn't
Speaker 7: even know. I didn't even know it in a bad way,
Speaker 7: in a bad way, in a way that my agent
Speaker 7: was sort of like, do we need to rethink our
Speaker 7: working relationship here? And I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 7: And I was racking my brain trying to think of
Speaker 7: how did I where did I go wrong?
Speaker 3: And so.
Speaker 7: I kind of chalked it up in the moment, just
Speaker 7: like survival mode kicked in and I was like, Okay,
Speaker 7: I'm not the guy, obviously, that's fine. I feel good
Speaker 7: about the exercise, So moving on. And then I found
Speaker 7: out like it was maybe two or three weeks later
Speaker 7: that the tape had like Bill had seen the tape,
Speaker 7: like the tape and it went on to the execs
Speaker 7: in LA and they had considered testing me for it,
Speaker 7: but I had already but by then I had already
Speaker 7: committed to go test for something else. Oh and it
Speaker 7: was like it was this wonderful validation. I gotta be honest,
Speaker 7: it was like it was like, oh, thank god, I
Speaker 7: knew that I was doing something kind of right, all right, great?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know I read not a lot of
Speaker 1: people got the show when we came out. Man, you
Speaker 1: say you talk about how you know, well you how
Speaker 1: much you liked it. It wasn't necessarily well received. We
Speaker 1: were always on the bubble, always trying to figure out
Speaker 1: a way to get you know, back on the network
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Well, not we but Bill was
Speaker 1: with our show man, So you know, that's surprise that
Speaker 1: you got it. Well, the fact that you got it
Speaker 1: is great, though.
Speaker 2: That's my showIn hop until till after. I mean, the
Speaker 2: Office wasn't you know. There's all these so many crazy
Speaker 2: stories about these shows that are so beloved, including Seinfeld,
Speaker 2: that weren't that weren't just genuine hits from the beginning.
Speaker 2: It really people really had to work them to.
Speaker 3: Keep it on. The Office was one of those too.
Speaker 7: It was a great time for comedy in general. Though.
Speaker 1: That was really like the Yeah, our group was dope,
Speaker 1: you know, our group, your you know us you the
Speaker 1: office uh UH arrested development all of it. That time,
Speaker 1: the group that that group that that was a really
Speaker 1: good time for.
Speaker 7: That was a really good time and it was different too.
Speaker 7: It's just a different kind of comedy that was coming.
Speaker 3: Out, which is really cool.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to ask you the question that's so obvious
Speaker 2: that we get asked all the time. But since ours
Speaker 2: is ours is looking like it's actually gonna happen a
Speaker 2: little bit, is there any chance of any sort of
Speaker 2: revival of VIPA? I mean, is there any world where
Speaker 2: you all get back together for some It could even
Speaker 2: be for like a movie or something.
Speaker 7: We've talked about it we have. I think I feel
Speaker 7: pretty confident I could speak for everyone and say that
Speaker 7: we would all if the opportunity to rose in the
Speaker 7: right way, everybody would be in because we love each other.
Speaker 7: We're still all very close.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 7: We do a lot of charity stuff together. In fact,
Speaker 7: we were doing we were raising some money for UH
Speaker 7: around the election. We're doing an event for Wisconsin.
Speaker 2: And are hod that work out for you?
Speaker 3: Guys?
Speaker 1: How'd that work out for you?
Speaker 7: We blew it.
Speaker 3: I blame it on you, guys, Honestly, so do.
Speaker 1: I so do. I.
Speaker 2: By the way, I was at a restaurant last night
Speaker 2: and I was at Craig's in La and all these
Speaker 2: Secret Service agents walked in.
Speaker 3: I was like, what was going on?
Speaker 2: Who's here? Because I always get, really, I really get
Speaker 2: kind of geeked out about Secret Service.
Speaker 3: I think they're so cool.
Speaker 2: And there was all things like the movies, and they're
Speaker 2: talking in and their thing, and I just I just
Speaker 2: think it's so cool. And I asked the waiter, I'm like,
Speaker 2: who's here? And he's like, I don't know if it's
Speaker 2: sposed to say, but I'm not even sure who it is.
Speaker 3: Let me go ask.
Speaker 2: And I leaned in and it was the second Gentleman,
Speaker 2: Doug m. Hoff, Kamala's husband, and I was very geeked
Speaker 2: about it. He definitely definitely seemed he definitely seemed like
Speaker 2: he and his pals were having a few.
Speaker 3: They were they deserve it, they deserve it.
Speaker 2: I think he wasn't. He wasn't. He looked like he
Speaker 2: was having a good time, but he also looked like,
Speaker 2: you know what, this week, we're gonna.
Speaker 1: Drink, We're gonna have.
Speaker 2: And then I was trying to be funny with the
Speaker 2: Secret Service. On the way out, I'm like, you guys
Speaker 2: here for me or him? And which I thought was
Speaker 2: a good joke at the time, but none of them
Speaker 2: thought it was that fun.
Speaker 7: Oh, a secret Service. They're they're known for their their
Speaker 7: scintillating sense of humor.
Speaker 2: I just think they're cool. I don't know I'm a
Speaker 2: Secret Service stand and they didn't really think I was
Speaker 2: that funny.
Speaker 1: Now, a last deep questioning. During that time, you guys
Speaker 1: must have rubbed shoulders with a lot of politicians, especially yeah, yeah, like,
Speaker 1: especially when you guys became a hit, especially when a
Speaker 1: lot of people were watching. You said you were in
Speaker 1: Baltimore for four years, that's like right next door to DC.
Speaker 1: How much? How much?
Speaker 7: Quite a bit?
Speaker 1: How much? And are you ever thinking about politics now?
Speaker 7: Because you know I'd be lying if I said that
Speaker 7: it doesn't cross my mind, because you know, look, I
Speaker 7: don't pretend to be an expert on politics based on
Speaker 7: a show that it worked on. But I did get
Speaker 7: you know, I really got a front row seat, or
Speaker 7: a backstage seat rather, and that was because you know,
Speaker 7: HBO had so much influence in that sphere, especially at
Speaker 7: that time via Richard Plepler, who ran Hbo at the time.
Speaker 7: He was a big DC mover and shaker. And Frank
Speaker 7: rich who was one of our executive provisors. You know,
Speaker 7: I wrote for the Washington Post and was huge influence
Speaker 7: in DC. They got us so much access in the
Speaker 7: early days that we were I remember the Senator Joe Lieberman,
Speaker 7: who was a friend I think of Richard Plepler. He
Speaker 7: just opened up his office to us and we just
Speaker 7: came and we were just like the entire cast. We
Speaker 7: were just all over his office grilling everybody. Tony and
Speaker 7: Tim and Matt and I would meet staffers all over
Speaker 7: Capitol Hill and take them out.
Speaker 3: Did you get to go to the White House?
Speaker 7: We got to go to the Eisenhower next door. I
Speaker 7: actually no, I'm sorry we did. No. We went to
Speaker 7: the White House, that's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: They snuck us in and gave us like a quick,
Speaker 7: sort of like mad dash tour through the whole thing.
Speaker 3: Cool.
Speaker 7: It was weird. I gotta be honest, is like people
Speaker 7: divulged things to us that I'm positive they should not
Speaker 7: have told.
Speaker 2: I think they're just so geeked that you're telling their
Speaker 2: story that they want you to know the real I want.
Speaker 1: To meet the motherfucker that just keeps slipping like, Yo,
Speaker 1: aliens exist, Bro, I'm telling you right now, I want
Speaker 1: to I want to meet the guy that's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: if you lobby hard enough, marijuana could not only be
Speaker 1: legal state, it could be federal.
Speaker 7: Like.
Speaker 1: I want to meet that guy. I want to meet
Speaker 1: the guy that's like, Yo, look, if you really want
Speaker 1: to get better health care, this is what we need
Speaker 1: to do, and it'd be viable. And me be like,
Speaker 1: you know, I want to meet these people. I want
Speaker 1: to meet the guy that's like, infrastructure, I get it, California,
Speaker 1: we need it. I want to meet these people. Hey, man, I.
Speaker 7: Hope they still exist. I gotta be honest. It feels like,
Speaker 7: you know, I make no pretense about it. You know,
Speaker 7: I come down on the left side of things, for sure,
Speaker 7: but I think both sides have. Everything is so fractured
Speaker 7: and so muddy and so overly complicated. It's a I
Speaker 7: think we've got a lot of work to do to
Speaker 7: clear some shit out so that people like you mentioned Donald,
Speaker 7: because they're they're out there there. They are absolutely out
Speaker 7: there and they're willing to do the work. But I
Speaker 7: think a lot of them there's this sort of general
Speaker 7: sense of apathy of sort of like, oh, it's such
Speaker 7: a you know, assists of pheeing task that no one
Speaker 7: wants to take it on.
Speaker 3: And I think everyone's a bit demoralized. U well, not everyone.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are demoralized. Now everyone's
Speaker 2: just licking their wounds a bit and and then they'll
Speaker 2: regroup soon.
Speaker 7: And I honestly, I hope it comes sooner than later,
Speaker 7: because I really do.
Speaker 1: Look.
Speaker 7: Look, I fell into my little creator of depression and
Speaker 7: it's fine. But you know, and maybe I see this
Speaker 7: because I have kids. You know, it's like you can
Speaker 7: sit and you can wallow, and that ends up being,
Speaker 7: in my personal opinion, kind of childish, because like what
Speaker 7: you can do is sort of like, all right, take
Speaker 7: your time, lick the wounds and realize we got to
Speaker 7: get to work. There's a lot of work.
Speaker 3: To have been a couple of weeks. We can wallow
Speaker 3: for a couple of moments.
Speaker 7: Okay, I'll give you a little let's.
Speaker 2: Talk about Missus mays Ol Donald. I don't I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm just going to be clear. I can't imagine you've
Speaker 2: ever seen an episode of Missus Mazell, because.
Speaker 1: I've watched the first season of Really.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I never would have guessed that you would like
Speaker 2: that show.
Speaker 1: Are you serious?
Speaker 2: Well, just because you know, I know what you like.
Speaker 2: And there's never a moment where anyone fires a laser
Speaker 2: at someone or flies.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of good stand up comedy. I was
Speaker 1: really impressed with the fact that this young lady could
Speaker 1: do stand up comedy like that. Let's just get very
Speaker 1: impressed with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really love the show. I was late to
Speaker 2: it because I just when I first started to be honest,
Speaker 2: it reminded me so much of just so many people
Speaker 2: I grew up with, and you know, I grew up
Speaker 2: East Coast Jewish family, and there was a lot of
Speaker 2: it was just like, Okay, I don't know, this is funny,
Speaker 2: but it's just too close to home. And then I
Speaker 2: went back and just really really loved it. The performance
Speaker 2: is the way it shot. There was I love shows,
Speaker 2: and Scrubs did this too. I have to say, you
Speaker 2: know where it wasn't just like, oh, let's shoot it
Speaker 2: like the cinematography is a character. I mean, you guys
Speaker 2: did such cool shots and such amazing production design, and
Speaker 2: every single actor was better than the last, and so
Speaker 2: you got to play sort of a for those of
Speaker 2: you who don't know this show, a sort of you know,
Speaker 2: she's an aspiring comedian and inspired by Joan Rivers, right, I.
Speaker 1: Think loose they actual story, Yeah, yeah, that's part of it.
Speaker 7: That's part of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a bit of A and so and Joan
Speaker 2: Rivers always wanted to guest and then hopefully one day
Speaker 2: take over the Tonight Show. And you kind of played
Speaker 2: the Johnny Carson character. Tell us about getting that, Like,
Speaker 2: how did you did you read for that part? How
Speaker 2: did that come about?
Speaker 7: The showrunners they called me or we set up a
Speaker 7: call and Amy Sherman Palladino and Dan Palladino, who again,
Speaker 7: and I mean, I'm very lucky I've gotten to work
Speaker 7: with some just incredibly genius writers.
Speaker 1: They are the.
Speaker 7: Best of the best, and they're just my kind of weird.
Speaker 7: I love them. They called me and we set up
Speaker 7: this zoom and they basically gave me their pitch on
Speaker 7: the character and sort of describing just as you said
Speaker 7: that he's sort of, you know, like very heavily influenced
Speaker 7: by Johnny Carson and like the early talk show hosts
Speaker 7: of the nineteen sixties, And I sort of sat there.
Speaker 7: I was like, yeah, all right, cool, cool, all right, yeah,
Speaker 7: let me think about it. And I got off the
Speaker 7: zoom and I went and told my wife. It's like,
Speaker 7: oh yeah, She's like, how'd it go. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 7: it went well.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 7: I told him I was kind to think about it
Speaker 7: because honestly, like I was not. I was familiar with
Speaker 7: the show, but I kind of, like you Donald, I
Speaker 7: think i'd seen a few episodes of season one, but
Speaker 7: I just didn't. I didn't really know the show. And
Speaker 7: my wife said, she's like, you told them you're thinking
Speaker 7: about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, She's like, you're.
Speaker 7: Fucking doing it. I was like okay, because she was
Speaker 7: a huge fan of the show, so she she sort
Speaker 7: of crash coursed me through the first three seasons, and
Speaker 7: I was blown away. I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 7: this writing is phenomenal.
Speaker 2: Writing was amazing. It was I loved about it.
Speaker 3: It was beautiful.
Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, not only would the
Speaker 2: writing be amazing, but then they do like this most
Speaker 2: epic wonner of a shot, and you'd be like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, they must have spent three days planning that
Speaker 2: and shooting that, and they just I love the care
Speaker 2: they took in shooting it, because you could have just
Speaker 2: said to hear the pretty costumes, hear the pretty sets,
Speaker 2: and and here's great writing. But it was so beyond that.
Speaker 2: There was There was such There was a dance and
Speaker 2: a choreography to the way the actors moved throughout the
Speaker 2: sets and the way the camera interacted with them. And
Speaker 2: there were times when I literally I can't think of
Speaker 2: so many many shows where I would like replay a
Speaker 2: wonner and be like, how the hell did they do that?
Speaker 7: And that's Amy. Honestly, that comes from Amy Sherman Paladino.
Speaker 7: She you know, she and Daniel they did uh, you
Speaker 7: know Gilmore Girls. I think everyone sort of knew them
Speaker 7: for Gilmore Girls before that. But before that, Amy was
Speaker 7: a choreographer for like decades, so dance and movement and
Speaker 7: music are so huge for her. That's why the Honestly,
Speaker 7: I had a little trouble the first couple weeks on
Speaker 7: set because you know, coming from v but I basically,
Speaker 7: you know, we were improvising so much. You know, we
Speaker 7: never hit a mark, we never did it the same
Speaker 7: way twice. And then showing up to set for for Mazel,
Speaker 7: where it's like, oh no, you don't change a word.
Speaker 7: You don't change And yeah, it was very sort of
Speaker 7: you know Aaron sorkinish in that way, in that like
Speaker 7: it's it's written this way because it's all been meticulously crafted,
Speaker 7: and then you realize once you start to say it,
Speaker 7: it's like, oh, it can't be said any other way.
Speaker 7: It's perfect the way it is. But she would have
Speaker 7: built in, especially when she directed, every cinematic move of
Speaker 7: the camera was tied in perfectly to the timing of
Speaker 7: certain words, like she saw the whole show in an
Speaker 7: extra dimension that like people just don't really you know,
Speaker 7: most of most people don't have that ability. It's really incredible.
Speaker 2: It's cool hearing that. It's cool hearing that story because
Speaker 2: for me, it really showed there was so many there
Speaker 2: was so much elegance to it. The scenes just felt
Speaker 2: like like dances.
Speaker 7: I loved it.
Speaker 1: I like that. I liked that she was a choreographer before. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because then it really makes you feel so they she
Speaker 1: did direct the scene, she did, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: she did. She was a part of it. You know,
Speaker 1: usually you know, you know how it is, the background
Speaker 1: is usually ran by the second ad or third a
Speaker 1: d okay, now you and you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And to think that that much care went into it,
Speaker 1: and also with cinematography too, to capture the busyness. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm That was the one thing I would say
Speaker 1: about that show that I really like. Definitely felt busy.
Speaker 1: When you were in a nightclub, it felt like you
Speaker 1: were in a nightclub. When you were at the parties,
Speaker 1: like when she was doing all of the stand up
Speaker 1: at the parties with her buddy and they're going back
Speaker 1: and forth, you felt like you were at a party.
Speaker 1: The Crosses felt like that. The music that was playing
Speaker 1: in the background, it's just really well done. And when
Speaker 1: it won all of those awards, I was like, fuck,
Speaker 1: of course and shit won all of the awards. But
Speaker 1: then we know how it was. But you know how
Speaker 1: it goes. After a while, You're like, monk, Tony, I
Speaker 1: can't watch you anymore. Bro. You win everything.
Speaker 7: You're gonna win it anyway, Tony.
Speaker 2: The second Tony, the second they hit record on Tony,
Speaker 2: he wins an award.
Speaker 7: He's rising, He's amazing, amazing guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, man, let's take a break.
Speaker 2: We'll be right back after these fine words. Did you
Speaker 2: meet any talk show hosts or who did you get
Speaker 2: to meet to like research.
Speaker 7: I've gotten to be friendly with Steven Bear over the
Speaker 7: years because he's he was a massive Yeah, he was
Speaker 7: a huge Veep fan. He he would come to our
Speaker 7: like Veep like rap parties. He would just show up
Speaker 7: and like, who's going to say no to Steven? You know,
Speaker 7: It's like he was just always around. He just wanted
Speaker 7: to be around. He was great and uh and he
Speaker 7: he and Matt Walsh, you know, they they went way
Speaker 7: back through you know early you know, New York Comedy days,
Speaker 7: UCB and then Daily Show and all that. So he
Speaker 7: was a real welcome guest. So I actually I reached
Speaker 7: out to him, uh when I accepted the role and said, hey,
Speaker 7: I would just I would love to pick your brain.
Speaker 7: And we had a zoom and he basically said like
Speaker 7: like hey man, I I'm happy to talk, but I
Speaker 7: don't I don't really know what what to tell you,
Speaker 7: Like like, what what do you want from me? Basically
Speaker 7: and said like, look, I'm not after how do I
Speaker 7: be a talk show host behind the desk. It's like
Speaker 7: I'll figure that out. What I'm more interested in is
Speaker 7: how you change from you know, all the masks you
Speaker 7: wear during your job, right, like you have your home life.
Speaker 7: Then you have the showrunner because essentially like the talk
Speaker 7: show host is the showrunner. You have your your showrunner persona.
Speaker 7: Then you have your writer persona. You've got your businessman
Speaker 7: persona because at that time they were all so you know,
Speaker 7: and they still are such a part of the fabric
Speaker 7: of the network. They're they're they're they're worried about advertising,
Speaker 7: they're worried about time, all this stuff. Then you have
Speaker 7: your your persona that you have behind the desk, and
Speaker 7: then you have you know, you're the rest of your
Speaker 7: personal life and sort of like and you have to
Speaker 7: shift through all of those masks every single day.
Speaker 1: What's that like?
Speaker 7: And I saw Steven his eyes kind of lit up,
Speaker 7: and I realized no one had ever asked him that
Speaker 7: question before. And he said, oh, well, here we go.
Speaker 7: And we we talked for like four hours, and at
Speaker 7: the end of which he's like, he's like, you know
Speaker 7: who you really need to talk to. You need to
Speaker 7: talk to Dick Cabot. I was like, oh, yeah, sure,
Speaker 7: I'll just I'll call up Dick Cavit. He's like, no,
Speaker 7: hold on a second, he calls Dick Cavot, gets Dick
Speaker 7: Caviot to join the zoom. So I'm on a three
Speaker 7: way zoom with Stephen Colbert and Dick Cavit and I
Speaker 7: was like, this was like like my parents are finally
Speaker 7: proud of me, Like I really made it?
Speaker 3: And what I did? What did Kavit say?
Speaker 2: Did he did?
Speaker 3: He?
Speaker 1: Did?
Speaker 7: He?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean he did. You know, dick'son, He's a legend,
Speaker 7: and he's he's getting he's getting on in ears. So
Speaker 7: we spent a lot of time just sort of hearing stories,
Speaker 7: which was great because you know, I would sort of
Speaker 7: keep an ear out for like, oh, that's a fun
Speaker 7: little thing, and you know, knowing that I don't really
Speaker 7: have the juice at Mazel the way I might have
Speaker 7: been veep to sort of put any of this stuff
Speaker 7: in there, but I sort of I was just taking
Speaker 7: copious notes and then I would get there and be like,
Speaker 7: you know what Dick told me these funny little stories.
Speaker 7: I wonder if there's a way to sort of wedget
Speaker 7: in there. And we found a couple here and there.
Speaker 7: But really what he impressed upon me was just the
Speaker 7: size of the role of the Late Night talk show
Speaker 7: host from that era. It was unlike anything else in television.
Speaker 7: And I mean you can really you can count on
Speaker 7: two hands the number of late night talk show hosts
Speaker 7: that really have mattered, that have really made a difference.
Speaker 1: Well, he's definitely one of them. He's way up there
Speaker 1: for sure. Like it's him, Johnny Carson. Yeah, real, those
Speaker 1: are from my era seventy four, that's the two. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, but then there was who was before h Johnny
Speaker 2: wasn't there was well, obviously there was, uh, you know
Speaker 2: the guy the Beatles went on.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but I wasn't around for that.
Speaker 2: I wasn't I'm saying throughout history like the big MERV.
Speaker 7: Griffin, right, and they were, and they were all doing
Speaker 7: something similar, but like but really, I mean, Johnny was
Speaker 7: the guy. Johnny was the guy. You know, Dick is
Speaker 7: certainly in that conversation because he.
Speaker 1: Was about to say he had some I mean, his
Speaker 1: guests and the crowd up was interacting with guests back
Speaker 1: then were really cool.
Speaker 7: And he was the thinking man, really good you know host,
Speaker 7: and he.
Speaker 2: Was really he was kind of of course, and of
Speaker 2: course Letterman.
Speaker 7: We can't early Letterman.
Speaker 1: I mean that that's that's that was revolutionary though man
Speaker 1: like he turned it. He I mean, there was those guys.
Speaker 1: Then Letterman came and I remember I remember late night,
Speaker 1: late late night. I remember that. I remember staying up
Speaker 1: late to watch him, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: then who came on after him back in the day, Conan.
Speaker 1: Remember that.
Speaker 7: It's amazing because used to be if he looked at
Speaker 7: like Jack Parr, I think is also another legend who
Speaker 7: deserves to be mentioned. He was doing stuff with comedy
Speaker 7: that no one was doing until early. Letterman came back
Speaker 7: and was sort of like reinventing, you know, people get
Speaker 7: you know, Letterman deserves all that credit, but he was
Speaker 7: almost sort of picking up where Jack Parr left off.
Speaker 7: And then I think Conan was sort of in that
Speaker 7: same conversation, and you sort of like, to me, that
Speaker 7: lineage is so clear, like Jack Parr to David Letterman
Speaker 7: to Conan O'Brien, and that's why they all deserve to
Speaker 7: be in that same conversation. But the pressure that was
Speaker 7: put on these guys to deliver like they were the network.
Speaker 7: It was them in the news, you know, they were
Speaker 7: the real faces of the network. All the other shows
Speaker 7: were entertaining and people love the characters and love the actors,
Speaker 7: but when you turned on NBC, you were watching Johnny Carson.
Speaker 7: This was Johnny Carson's network.
Speaker 1: It was his it was his network. Yeah, so I
Speaker 1: just watched it before we move, and I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: just watched this movie Saturday Night and they dip and
Speaker 1: they talk about that a little bit in the movie.
Speaker 1: How the reason why Saturday Night Live was on was
Speaker 1: because Johnny Carson and the network were in a feud
Speaker 1: about money and they needed a show for Saturday Night
Speaker 1: to replace him him and he wasn't playing he wasn't
Speaker 1: playing ball. They weren't playing ball, and they put a
Speaker 1: show on with a bunch of nobodies that had literally
Speaker 1: no there was no there was no legitimate story. So
Speaker 1: there was no a to b there was no you know,
Speaker 1: there was no star, there was no nothing, And they
Speaker 1: put this show on to combat, you know, for it
Speaker 1: to lose, really knowing that they'd signed Johnny again and
Speaker 1: it was a hit. Johnny Clarson was running him and
Speaker 1: Milton Burrell were running that show absolutely.
Speaker 7: John At one point people forget, you know, the Tonight Show.
Speaker 7: At one point, Johnny was so powerful. The Tonight Show
Speaker 7: was only on three four days a week, because he
Speaker 7: was like, fuck it, I want to go play tennis.
Speaker 7: I mean, can you imagine, like there's no late night
Speaker 7: talk show that could ever get away with that. But
Speaker 7: he was like, you know, they called it the Tonight Show.
Speaker 7: Really was sort of like you know, the win I
Speaker 7: feel like a show.
Speaker 2: That little clip here, Dan, all right, now we have
Speaker 2: to talk about your latest gig, Law and Order. And
Speaker 2: I saw something funny you said because it was the
Speaker 2: truth for me too. When I was coming up in
Speaker 2: New York. Uh you know, I graduated Northwestern in ninety seven,
Speaker 2: and and like the main show in New York was
Speaker 2: The og Lawn Order. And even before that, when I
Speaker 2: was auditioning before college, there were like young parts and
Speaker 2: everyone I knew was getting their little stint on Law
Speaker 2: and Order. Everyone was getting there little even if it
Speaker 2: was like one scene like I told you, I didn't
Speaker 2: do it man, like everyone had their those are my drugs?
Speaker 2: Those not my drugs. I got it from Cheryl.
Speaker 1: I want to dun dum, dun dum.
Speaker 3: You know who you should be talking to.
Speaker 2: Cheryl. She works down at the candy shop. Even if
Speaker 2: it was that, even though it was just that and
Speaker 2: I couldn't get any of these ships, and I'm figuring
Speaker 2: they neither read for them all. And I know Donald
Speaker 2: you did too, And I was like, what is.
Speaker 1: The best I guy was New York Undercover. Bro, My
Speaker 1: ship was hot, dude, come on.
Speaker 2: It became a joke like, oh, you're a New York actor.
Speaker 2: Have you had your line on Law and Order yet?
Speaker 2: And I was like, fucking no. And then I saw
Speaker 2: that I saw the notes that you did too, and
Speaker 2: now here the fucking lead so so fun. That's a
Speaker 2: good fucking karma coming around.
Speaker 7: I tried. Man, I know it was the same it was,
Speaker 7: you know when I was when I was first kicking
Speaker 7: it around here auditioning again, late nineties, ninety eight, ninety nine.
Speaker 1: Uh, that's all.
Speaker 7: I want to turn nothing.
Speaker 1: I wanted to be on that ship so badly. My
Speaker 1: best friend, my best friend, who is not an actor.
Speaker 1: When we were kids, he wasn't even an actor, he
Speaker 1: didn't do shit. And this motherfucker wound up one law Nor.
Speaker 1: I was like, how the fuck did he get on there?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Remember you'd go audition down to Chelsea.
Speaker 7: P Yeah, yeah, is that where you still shoot? SVU
Speaker 7: is over there? But we're in uh, we're in Brooklyn.
Speaker 3: It Steiner, not at Steiner.
Speaker 2: God, I wish that's the nice one you got about.
Speaker 1: Look, dude, straight up, s vu man, how long has
Speaker 1: Marishka and Iced Tea had job?
Speaker 7: It's amazing?
Speaker 1: And you want to talk about never happened to retire? Mean,
Speaker 1: oh my god, never happened.
Speaker 2: Long order back when we were watching it, So I
Speaker 2: remember the Jerry or Back Jimmy Smith's yes, Chris Noath days.
Speaker 3: I believe.
Speaker 2: Because there's so many incarnations. But I think when I
Speaker 2: was watching it trying to get my little Doom Doom moment,
Speaker 2: it was Chris North and Jerry or Back. But so
Speaker 2: that's a pretty great lineage. What's it like? Is it
Speaker 2: fun to shoot?
Speaker 3: Do you have?
Speaker 2: Is Dick Wolf still involved? Does he come by or.
Speaker 7: He out Dick? I I assume Dick is always just
Speaker 7: sort of circling the earth in his hyperbaric chamber, you know,
Speaker 7: seven seven?
Speaker 2: Is he going to be okay for money?
Speaker 3: Read?
Speaker 2: Do you think that he'll be able to get by?
Speaker 7: He'll be okay, He'll be okay.
Speaker 1: Is it crazy that he has a monopoly on all television? Right?
Speaker 7: It's amazing, It's like, honestly, getting talk about how the
Speaker 7: sausage is made. It's sort of like getting a peek
Speaker 7: behind the curtain to how Dick Wolf Productions works. Is
Speaker 7: really there's nothing quite like it. I really had no
Speaker 7: idea a. I love it. I have such a blast
Speaker 7: doing this gig.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you would love to do it?
Speaker 2: We want to do Yeah.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, that'd be hilarious.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're going to want us together,
Speaker 2: because then it'll be like all the Scrubs guys. But
Speaker 2: will you tell your your your showrunner?
Speaker 7: For sure?
Speaker 2: Donald and I never got our one line doing doing moment,
Speaker 2: and we would like to make our dreams come true.
Speaker 7: Honestly, I'm not kidding. I'm going to say this first
Speaker 7: thing tomorrow.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: You know it'll be funny if I was like if
Speaker 2: I just have one line, and like, it wasn't me.
Speaker 2: It was my friend Timmy. He works down at the cemetery.
Speaker 2: He's a grave digger.
Speaker 1: I didn't do it. It was fucking James. James fucking
Speaker 1: called me up the other day and he was like,
Speaker 1: you know what I did? I fucking did it.
Speaker 2: You tell him I'm not coming down to Chelsea Piers
Speaker 2: the audition, but I will take the offer.
Speaker 7: Oh well, I know it looks.
Speaker 2: Like it must be fun to shoot, right.
Speaker 7: It's great, man, it's great.
Speaker 3: It's who's your partner? Who? Who do you do with?
Speaker 7: Mccod Brooks plays my partner and he's the best.
Speaker 1: He's just you work on with macd I love mccott.
Speaker 7: He's so fun that we grats to both of you,
Speaker 7: you know, he and I we work so well together.
Speaker 7: I think because we right, we get what the job is,
Speaker 7: you know, and we respect it. We we both kind
Speaker 7: of like you guys, we came up on this job,
Speaker 7: so we sort of feel again that sort of custodianship
Speaker 7: over it. Yeah, but we also.
Speaker 2: Wanted to be a part of that show.
Speaker 3: We just love it.
Speaker 2: It's fucking unfailing and infallible, infallible.
Speaker 7: We're two grown men in our late forties running around
Speaker 7: New York with a gun and a badge and a snarky,
Speaker 7: bad attitude, and you know, we get to do all
Speaker 7: this fun or baki and ship. It's like it's the best.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really cool. I would love to I would
Speaker 2: love to do that. I would love to just be.
Speaker 1: So you guys are the lost side. Who's the order side.
Speaker 7: Who's the the order side? Is my buddy, Hugh Dancy
Speaker 7: and Odelia Hallavi and now Tony Goldwin.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, people speaking of people who never had a
Speaker 2: day off in the last forty years.
Speaker 1: Jesus, he's not directing, he's acting.
Speaker 3: I know, Tony.
Speaker 2: I love Tony so much, but I'm like, dude, you know,
Speaker 2: it's okay to take a day off Tony. It's okay
Speaker 2: to not work today. When he's not working, he's doing
Speaker 2: political action. He's an amazing.
Speaker 1: He's the real deal.
Speaker 7: Tony gold We love Tony.
Speaker 2: I love him very much. He's the nicest guy. It
Speaker 2: has abs. A lot of women have a crush on
Speaker 2: and you'll be happy to know that he has abs. Still, Yes,
Speaker 2: because he rows, he does the rower.
Speaker 1: Oh he's a rower.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's one of those guys with the rower and
Speaker 2: are you a rower? And has got you into rowing?
Speaker 1: Not yet? No, no, I was gonna say. That's always cool, man.
Speaker 1: It's like you get to go into work, you get
Speaker 1: to act, and then at the end of the day
Speaker 1: you get to run around with guns too, so you
Speaker 1: get to do all of the things that you wanted
Speaker 1: to do, and like, I'm like, I was just thinking
Speaker 1: about that. I was like, yeah, I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: what would be a lot of fun actually doing a
Speaker 1: procedural that would actually be a lot of fun if
Speaker 1: it's a if I'm a cop, because I'll come in,
Speaker 1: I'll do the work. I got, you know, we'll do
Speaker 1: the work. Let's do the work. Now, Let's go fucking
Speaker 1: run around with cars. Let's do stunt ships. Great, let's
Speaker 1: drive around and shoot guns and stuff.
Speaker 2: Very funny. If you and I did a Law and
Speaker 2: Order spoof.
Speaker 7: That's what we want to do too, mccott and I absolutely,
Speaker 7: it's it's so ripe ripe for it.
Speaker 2: I think, you know, John, I feel like we'd have
Speaker 2: more fun to have eat our cake, have our cake,
Speaker 2: you eat it too, where we could still do with
Speaker 2: the ship. But then but it was a spoof. It
Speaker 2: was like a naked gun spoof.
Speaker 1: Of we need to get Dick Wolf on board for
Speaker 1: Dick Wolf.
Speaker 2: Are you ready to spoof your work?
Speaker 7: I heard Dick Wolf is a huge fan.
Speaker 1: Listens to the fakes real friends.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know you have your I think this is.
Speaker 7: Perfect for like a sort of like Law and Order
Speaker 7: multiverse too. You know, it's sort of like like Zach
Speaker 7: if you're playing my character, and Donald if you're playing
Speaker 7: with Cod's character. It's like, somehow we just have to
Speaker 7: go down the wrong alley in New York and we
Speaker 7: come out the other side into another dimension and it's
Speaker 7: you guys.
Speaker 2: But it's it's when we do ours every time you
Speaker 2: when we do our spoof, every time you hear the
Speaker 2: dong dong, it's gonna reveal that I'm playing it on
Speaker 2: a synthesize.
Speaker 1: You got a little many synthesizes that you walk around.
Speaker 2: Yeah, remember that little Cassio one that where you like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I have that and you're like and you're like, why
Speaker 2: do you always do that? I'm like, well, it's just
Speaker 2: how I like to end scenes.
Speaker 7: Punctuation.
Speaker 1: What what is? What is the scene? We're fucking standing
Speaker 1: here in front of an investigation?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for coming on. You're you're so talented
Speaker 2: and I'm so grateful for your time. And everybody check
Speaker 2: out Law and Order.
Speaker 1: When do you guys? Come on? When do you wear?
Speaker 1: When is it on?
Speaker 7: We're Thursdays, eight pm and we'll be on, hopefully for
Speaker 7: the next thousand years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you will be. Wait, so you shoot in New York,
Speaker 2: put your families in LA. It's tough because your kids
Speaker 2: are in school. Do you can you come back for
Speaker 2: weekends and stuff?
Speaker 3: How do you do it?
Speaker 7: Yeah, they're they're actually they're very They're wonderful about it.
Speaker 7: It's all been very humane, Like they carve out nice
Speaker 7: big you know, four or five six day weekends for
Speaker 7: me when they can.
Speaker 3: I get to talk back a lot.
Speaker 7: My family comes here. You know, I'm from upstate. I've
Speaker 7: lived in New York since I was a teenager, so
Speaker 7: this is a bit of a homecoming. And you know,
Speaker 7: get into this show. I've gotten to know New York
Speaker 7: City on a level that I never thought was possible
Speaker 7: because of the places that we get to shoot on
Speaker 7: this show. It's like we are everywhere, and so it
Speaker 7: really has gotten me to fall in love with New
Speaker 7: York again. But the travel is a bit of a grind.
Speaker 1: But I'm about to say getting through that city, No.
Speaker 2: I think he's talking about the LA New York commute right.
Speaker 7: All of it.
Speaker 1: No, I'm talking about it. You have a film in
Speaker 1: New York? Have you filmed in New York in the
Speaker 1: last five years?
Speaker 2: Yeah, six years films in New York, right, you know.
Speaker 2: So you know, although for a good person, we couldn't shoot.
Speaker 2: We had to shoot Jersey City for New York because
Speaker 2: of the tax rebate, we weren't allowed to shoot in
Speaker 2: New York.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the hardest place to get around. Manhattan stuff.
Speaker 1: It's so hard to get around.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tricky. And then and then when when people
Speaker 2: see the film shoot, they're so stoked. So then it
Speaker 2: becomes really kind of tricky to shoot because people gather
Speaker 2: and everyone. All the locals are so over film crews,
Speaker 2: so they're like, get the fuck off my street.
Speaker 1: An's ale? Why do they all sound like Edith Bunker?
Speaker 2: If I see Sarah Jessica Parker's strutting up I Street
Speaker 2: one more time, I'm gonna get a blow dot gun.
Speaker 2: All right, Read, you're the best man. Thank you for
Speaker 2: your Scott everybody.
Speaker 3: Now I want to be on Law and Order.
Speaker 2: I'm jealous.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what I was thinking about that earlier today?
Speaker 1: When I say that, my wife is like, were you
Speaker 1: thinking about it or were you thinking about it earlier?
Speaker 1: Just now? I was thinking about it earlier today, And
Speaker 1: that would be kind of an ideal job right now, Like,
Speaker 1: if Scrubs doesn't do this reboot, it would be nice
Speaker 1: to be on something like Law and Order or Law
Speaker 1: and Order SVU or something, you know, something of that
Speaker 1: nature where you get to run around and play fire
Speaker 1: man or you get to run around and play you know, FBI.
Speaker 1: That's fun for me.
Speaker 2: I just feel like in my gut, I I would
Speaker 2: get exhausted if there wasn't humor, Like I just feel like,
Speaker 2: And don't get me wrong, I would totally do a
Speaker 2: drama of all of all types, except for if I'm
Speaker 2: going to do twenty two episodes of a show.
Speaker 1: I want to be funny too, no doubt.
Speaker 2: I just don't know if I'm gonna make it through
Speaker 2: the day if we're not laughing.
Speaker 1: Like, to me, what I think there's room for that
Speaker 1: in those things.
Speaker 2: There's no comedy in lor Honor. They just have like
Speaker 2: one snarky remark like I guess you didn't finish his
Speaker 2: bagel dune dune. So but yeah, what a great guy.
Speaker 2: And he's so talented and he keeps working and we
Speaker 2: always admire these people that just keep on working and
Speaker 2: working and working.
Speaker 1: He's a handsome dude. Man's that's what that's.
Speaker 2: Also what you're saying, it's just because he's handsome.
Speaker 1: No, he's a very talented actor man, and he's very very,
Speaker 1: very very funny, but he also has something called handsome
Speaker 1: on his side, and in this town, from what I understand,
Speaker 1: handsome is a big deal.
Speaker 2: Handsome helps He plays such a good dick. Though, oh
Speaker 2: my god, was he such a like the worst jerk
Speaker 2: on on Veep.
Speaker 1: Worse than Bradley Cooper and wedding crashers.
Speaker 3: I don't really remember. Probably not.
Speaker 1: Bradley Cooper is the worst dick that I've ever seen
Speaker 1: in my life in wedding crashes. Dude. But you know what, Reid,
Speaker 1: you're a pretty good dick.
Speaker 2: To Reid, You're a great dick.
Speaker 1: You're such a good dick.
Speaker 2: He's such a nice dick. By the way, I got
Speaker 2: I was feeling sort of lonesome and depressed the other day,
Speaker 2: I have to admit, and but no, I was, I
Speaker 2: was feeling down the dumps I was having. I was,
Speaker 2: I was really feeling my feelings. And I remember remember
Speaker 2: Joel saying that when she wants to find something to do,
Speaker 2: she plays the SIMS four. So I downloaded SIMS four.
Speaker 2: I'll start playing SIMS four. It's been so many years.
Speaker 2: And I said, I go, I have a ranch and
Speaker 2: I'm setting it up, and I'm texting Joel questions. I'm like,
Speaker 2: how do I get a horse? I'm on this ranch alone,
Speaker 2: I like need a horse. And then I get the horse.
Speaker 2: Joel helps me out, and I'm like, I want to
Speaker 2: get some baby goats. Joel wear the baby goats and
Speaker 2: she's talking me through this, and then I'm just sitting
Speaker 2: there on this fucking giant empty range. And I got
Speaker 2: baby goats and I got a horse. And then I
Speaker 2: see my sim and he starts to get like depressed
Speaker 2: and lonesome, and I'm like, now my fucking sim is
Speaker 2: depressed and lonesome. I'm sitting here trying to tritch here
Speaker 2: this sim up and we're both sitting here within our feelings.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why didn't you get a hot tub?
Speaker 2: Very good question. I couldn't find the hot tub. I'm
Speaker 2: not sure if the ranch had hot tub options or
Speaker 2: if I could and afford it. And also I didn't
Speaker 2: there weren't any women around. I think I shouldn't be
Speaker 2: on a ranch because my guy really wanted to flirt
Speaker 2: and only these old like prospector dudes were coming by,
Speaker 2: like welcome to the neighborhood, and I wasn't gonna buy
Speaker 2: them to my hot tub. And then I had to, oh, oh,
Speaker 2: we'll find out how to get a hot tub. I
Speaker 2: got to text you, well, she knows how to use
Speaker 2: SIMS for. But then my baby goats, I didn't know
Speaker 2: they needed milking. I have to milk them, and I
Speaker 2: was so busy, like moving shit around on the ranch.
Speaker 2: I didn't have time to milk my baby goats.
Speaker 1: Can I answer your question?
Speaker 3: Go ahead?
Speaker 1: Is your ranch still alive?
Speaker 2: But I'm thinking I shouldn't be on the ranch. I'm
Speaker 2: going to talk to Joel about it. I think that
Speaker 2: my character needs some more social interactions and I should
Speaker 2: be like in a city or a town where I can.
Speaker 3: Like talk to people.
Speaker 1: What are you going to do sell the ranch?
Speaker 2: I don't know if I think you just started a
Speaker 2: new game because I just started.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, you don't have to be lonely. There
Speaker 1: is Farmers Only.
Speaker 2: You think I can go on SIMS Farmers Home.
Speaker 1: I think that's a possibility.
Speaker 2: There's a bar in town that my character hasn't gone to.
Speaker 2: Maybe I should go in there and try.
Speaker 1: To go at a fucking bar. You'll find a girl
Speaker 1: at the bar.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: But I have so much to do on the farm
Speaker 2: and I and I'm supposed to milk these goats and
Speaker 2: I and I wanted to adopt a horse. But while
Speaker 2: I was trying to take care of this adopted horse,
Speaker 2: my character started looking sad. And I'm like, oh shit,
Speaker 2: why is he so sad? And I clicked on it.
Speaker 2: It's because the baby goats were fucking ramming his shins
Speaker 2: because I hadn't trained them.
Speaker 1: You're supposed to train the goat.
Speaker 2: You're supposed to you know what do you call it?
Speaker 2: Pet them and domesticates them or whatever?
Speaker 1: You got it? Got it.
Speaker 2: So there's a lot to do and and and the
Speaker 2: whole time, I'm thinking, this isn't cheering me up. This
Speaker 2: is like making me more depressed.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Zach, Right, play fucking red Dead Redemption too,
Speaker 1: that'll cheer you up real quick. Well, go go bouncy, go,
Speaker 1: go get some bounties.
Speaker 3: Isn't that about a guy alone?
Speaker 1: Well, yes, yeah, he is alone. But guess what he
Speaker 1: finds on his lonesome trips?
Speaker 2: What jewels does he allow to pick up women and
Speaker 2: like bring them on adventures.
Speaker 1: You could beat the crap out of anybody in the game.
Speaker 2: You don't like meet you don't meet cowgirls.
Speaker 1: You know you'd meet people, but you don't meet them
Speaker 1: and have.
Speaker 4: Related Larry, and then you know that's what you should play.
Speaker 1: It exists. Still, No, it doesn't. I bet you. I
Speaker 1: bet you could find if you go to your Apple,
Speaker 1: your app store.
Speaker 2: It's not like a new incarnation of.
Speaker 1: Watch what Happens dude, store app.
Speaker 2: Store, store, app store.
Speaker 1: Because I want you to do it right now. Leisure
Speaker 1: suit Larry, No, I don't want to. I'm going to
Speaker 1: do it just because you did this. I want you
Speaker 1: to know this is your fault.
Speaker 2: But I don't want to go play a game about
Speaker 2: a guy in a leisure suit. I just want to
Speaker 2: get I want to play the sims. I'm liking it,
Speaker 2: but I think I should be in a town where
Speaker 2: I can socialize. Ran just it's just me and this
Speaker 2: at this. I got a I got an adopted pony
Speaker 2: that's skittish. I got two baby goats that need to
Speaker 2: be milked.
Speaker 1: Dude, there's leiser suit, Larry. Wet dreams don't dry.
Speaker 2: Come baby that's the title. Wet dreams don't die.
Speaker 1: No, wet dreams don't dry.
Speaker 2: What dreams don't dry? What you're come out?
Speaker 1: Dreams don't dry.
Speaker 2: Wet dreams don't try.
Speaker 3: What year to come out?
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's let me hold up.
Speaker 4: I want to see how old it is, Daniel's saying
Speaker 4: is not. That's the reason. I'm sure it's already released,
Speaker 4: that they released for it.
Speaker 2: I don't think in your twenty twenty four you can
Speaker 2: make a leisure Shuitt Larry game.
Speaker 1: Shit shit, oh you can?
Speaker 3: Are there games?
Speaker 2: Are there games out there, Daniel that are sexual?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, Oh it's twenty nineteen. All right, so it's
Speaker 2: five years old.
Speaker 3: There's a whole there's like what.
Speaker 2: Daniel, like, what's a game where you're like where you're
Speaker 2: like where there's a lot of intercourse.
Speaker 4: I mean, there are these like simulation type games where
Speaker 4: you're like literally like stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh they're out there. Oh yeah, they're out there. They're
Speaker 2: just like stuff you can like literally you know, fucking
Speaker 2: melon like a canalope?
Speaker 1: Does There is there like a weird kind of controller
Speaker 1: like shaped like a woman's body that.
Speaker 2: It's just so you can choose different things to fuck.
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, look I don't have a lot of personally,
Speaker 4: I just know that they're there.
Speaker 1: You can be weird to ask you to look up said.
Speaker 2: Can you put those in the chat?
Speaker 3: I'm going to do it on my other computer. I'll
Speaker 3: say that, just put those on the chat.
Speaker 2: Did I tell a story about how I was playing
Speaker 2: a game on my like my like like year like
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety five computer in my college dorm. My roommate
Speaker 2: walked in while I was having sex with the with the.
Speaker 1: With the game with Leadership.
Speaker 2: No, it was this game where the idea is sorry
Speaker 2: audience if I told this story.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I've never heard of this.
Speaker 2: The idea was like you moved your mouse and you
Speaker 2: were trying to have the woman have an orgasm, and
Speaker 2: you know the like you know, the the what do
Speaker 2: you call the gauge would go into yellow and then
Speaker 2: when she was close, she was gonna And I'm just
Speaker 2: sitting there with your mouse and I'm just doing my best.
Speaker 2: And I had a borning and Christian roommate and uh
Speaker 2: and he just swung open the door with his borning
Speaker 2: and Christian girlfriend. He was coming to like show her like,
Speaker 2: and this is my dorm room and I was out
Speaker 2: of a movie, like I couldn't turn it off. I could,
Speaker 2: I couldn't find the bar, I couldn't escape, and the
Speaker 2: girls on the computer like I've got the mouse, I've
Speaker 2: got the mouse, coming as fast as I can, and
Speaker 2: I'm just really trying to get this fucking thing off.
Speaker 2: And he took one look and he was so embarrassed.
Speaker 2: He's like, oh, well, come back later, and he's like
Speaker 2: slammed the door, and I was so embarrassing.
Speaker 1: Did you apologize or you guys never spoke of it.
Speaker 2: I think it was so embarrassing that I never was like, hey, sorry,
Speaker 2: I was playing that sex game when you brought your galby.
Speaker 3: So it goes, so it goes. But it was fun the.
Speaker 1: Game was you know, is there anything you want to
Speaker 1: shy about twitching? What?
Speaker 2: He doesn't twitch anymore?
Speaker 1: Do you mean?
Speaker 3: What was I doing anything weird sexually on twitch? Ever?
Speaker 3: I was not weirdest thing I ever did was muck bang.
Speaker 3: And that was weird.
Speaker 1: That sounds just muck bang alone. My kids are my
Speaker 1: kids know all of it. I mean, you know when
Speaker 1: you muck bang, no, but when you're into when you're
Speaker 1: when you're the kids these days know more about what
Speaker 1: is considered pleasurable for the ears. And you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Muck banging is an ear thing. It's an
Speaker 1: ASMR thing. I didn't know if that.
Speaker 2: Ships for people who are into it. Some people find
Speaker 2: it gross.
Speaker 1: Right, And so I was wondering, like why I kept
Speaker 1: watching all of these uh in recipe videos and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. And my kid looked at me and said, Dad,
Speaker 1: it's ASMR. You're freaking intrigued by those. And there's my
Speaker 1: eleven year old kid telling me this, And I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: got it.
Speaker 2: What are you going to do the rest of your day?
Speaker 2: Are you going to go back to building? Uh?
Speaker 3: Tattooing.
Speaker 1: It's not tattooing. It's a planet that is very much
Speaker 1: like tattooing.
Speaker 2: Are you going to back to building the planet that's
Speaker 2: very much like tattooing. Uh?
Speaker 1: Yeah. For I got about an hour and then I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go pick up the kids. I'm gonna take my
Speaker 1: kid to his workout and then bring him home, feed him.
Speaker 1: We just finished Stranger Things. Listen, parents, if you are
Speaker 1: a father of an eleven year old boy and a
Speaker 1: nine year old girl, I do not recommend stranger things
Speaker 1: for this.
Speaker 3: We're all scared.
Speaker 1: My daughter was not. But my son slept. My eleven
Speaker 1: year old. He's going to be so embarrassed by this.
Speaker 1: But he slept in the same bed as us last.
Speaker 2: Night because of monsters.
Speaker 3: That's sweet.
Speaker 1: Because he was so afraid. That's what that was. That
Speaker 1: was his explanation. I was like, boy, go back in
Speaker 1: your bed, get back in your bed. I'm so scared.
Speaker 7: Dad.
Speaker 3: Well, good, good parenting, good y'all.
Speaker 2: But never all right, everybody, we love you. Thanks for
Speaker 2: tuning in and listening to.
Speaker 3: So we'll We'll talk to you next time.
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