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Speaker 1: was a. Blast we also use, defense base, running use.
Speaker 1: Everything so in this draft we're not just looking at.
Speaker 1: Starters we're also looking at the. Bullpen i'm excited.
Speaker 2: And in what have you done for me? Lately game that?
Speaker 2: Matters let's talk Post All star break as. Well a
Speaker 2: lot of splits that you can dive into to build
Speaker 2: your draft. Board AND i feel okay about.
Speaker 1: MINE i feel great about. Mine absolutely Dismantled arm, yesterday gad.
Speaker 1: You my plan is to do the same here. Today that's.
Speaker 2: Awesome do you have more respect for me Or arm
Speaker 2: when it comes to?
Speaker 1: DRAFTING i have no respect for either of.
Speaker 2: You it's just, like that's a really good. ANSWER i
Speaker 2: asked you to pick a, favorite and you. Didn't by
Speaker 2: diminishing both of. Us, WELL i, know because they're both.
Speaker 2: Zero is it like a prettier?
Speaker 1: Zero?
Speaker 2: YEAH i mean one could be. Incursive one could be
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Speaker 2: stock up ON g two.
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Speaker 1: Pen come, on, ballpoint that's more of A.
Speaker 2: That is the type of a, pen not THE, rb
Speaker 2: not the brand of a.
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Speaker 2: Sharpie sharpie is a. MARKER i think it falls into
Speaker 2: the marker. Family how many people do you think turn
Speaker 2: this pot off in the last ten?
Speaker 1: Seconds everyone for the one person left? You ready for a? Draft,
Speaker 1: yeah let's do.
Speaker 2: It i'm, in so give me the rules.
Speaker 1: Here so the rules, are whoever has first, pick then
Speaker 1: the next person gets the back two and then it's.
Speaker 1: Alternating and because the standings have changed ever even since we,
Speaker 1: recorded OR i recorded With, arum we're now adding another
Speaker 1: team into the. Mix and we could have stuck by
Speaker 1: our rule three games within the wild card standings or
Speaker 1: not right three games, out but we decided to add
Speaker 1: two more teams that are three and a half games.
Speaker 1: Out so Congratulations, guardians Congratulations. Diamondbacks you're both still. In
Speaker 1: and a, reminder we got both of our teams starting
Speaker 1: pitching and. Bullpens those are the.
Speaker 2: Rules so there are an odd number of teams there.
Speaker 2: Are do you want first? PICK i assume we Go.
Speaker 2: Serpentine why don't you have first?
Speaker 1: PICK i gave arm first pick because of my lack
Speaker 1: of respect for your guys' drafting. Pedigree, yeah you take.
Speaker 2: It, okay that's. FINE i will absolutely take the first,
Speaker 2: pick so there's no. Excuses, yeah AND i also get
Speaker 2: an extra, team Which i'm pretty fired up. About ALTHOUGH
Speaker 2: i also get the last, pick which is. Tough what
Speaker 2: we could do is just that team wasn't. Drafted that's
Speaker 2: what we think of your pitching. Staff, yeah that's what
Speaker 2: we could. Do we could do. That that feels super.
Speaker 2: MEAN i feel like last pick we should. Do SO
Speaker 2: i get an extra.
Speaker 1: Pick it's mean for that, base but everybody else is
Speaker 1: gonna get a chuckle out of. It so we have
Speaker 1: to think about the, majority and, unfortunately we've got to
Speaker 1: crush that. TEAM i.
Speaker 2: Understand, okay first? Pick you ready for?
Speaker 1: Mine i'm.
Speaker 2: Ready it's gonna sound a little. Chalky it's also gonna
Speaker 2: be a little weird to.
Speaker 1: YOU i. Think give me THE La.
Speaker 2: Dodgers is that chalky or is that?
Speaker 1: WEIRD i have them actually second on my, baby you adam.
Speaker 2: Second, okay so you're gonna get your first, choice BUT
Speaker 2: i get my first, choice And i'll explain WHY i
Speaker 2: go with THE La dodgers. First since The All Star
Speaker 2: break three five to one staff is best in, baseball
Speaker 2: they are one of two teams under a three point
Speaker 2: six as a. Staff the other team under a three
Speaker 2: point six is The Milwaukee. Brewers but THE La dodgers
Speaker 2: have punched out more, Guys they've walked fewer, guys the
Speaker 2: batting average against is a little bit. Lower and, oh
Speaker 2: by the, Way snell is back and throwing. Consistently last
Speaker 2: now is back and throwing consistently and looking really. Good
Speaker 2: otani is ramping up to five. Innings yamamoto is a
Speaker 2: top five pitcher In Major League. Baseball how do they Use?
Speaker 2: KERSHAW i have no. Idea and the bullpen is getting
Speaker 2: a little bit. BETTER i like the pieces that they.
Speaker 2: Have Tanner scott admitted that the baseball gods have not
Speaker 2: been kind to, Him But Tanner scott is a sixty
Speaker 2: seventy million dollar, Closer So i'm gonna Trust Tanner scott
Speaker 2: a little bit trying In i'm gonna Trust trying and
Speaker 2: based on what he did last. Year, VESIA i love
Speaker 2: he just came off the il And. Riquez i'm a
Speaker 2: huge fan Of how can you not be a huge
Speaker 2: fan of one hundred and? Four robleski all of a
Speaker 2: sudden is throwing one hundred as a long. Man and,
Speaker 2: oh by the, Way Jack, DRYER i pitched you on.
Speaker 2: That Michael kopek is back in the, fold and, oh
Speaker 2: by the, Way Roki sasaki hit one hundred and one
Speaker 2: miles an hour in his last, rehab so.
Speaker 1: Who knows how he factors.
Speaker 2: In they're getting healthy at the right, time which is
Speaker 2: exactly what every single person that watches baseball was. Forecasting
Speaker 2: they were gonna limp their way through four five, months
Speaker 2: and by Mid september they were gonna be all systems
Speaker 2: go going Into.
Speaker 1: OCTOBER i have absolutely no problem with you taking The
Speaker 1: dodgers number one, overall because they do have the best
Speaker 1: rotation of any team In Major League baseball when you
Speaker 1: can Go, Yamamoto Snell, Glass, now, like let's Pretend ohtani
Speaker 1: isn't even, pitching even though he. Is those three are
Speaker 1: as good as. Anybody but then of course you do
Speaker 1: Have Shojo tani for a potential game. Four, right those
Speaker 1: horses are, incredible and in terms of bullpen era since the,
Speaker 1: break they ranked. Tenth the Reason i'm gonna go with
Speaker 1: The brewers here is my number one pick is second
Speaker 1: best overall team era this, year third best expected. Era,
Speaker 1: right those are the full season stample, six then starter
Speaker 1: era since the, break so they're still throwing it as
Speaker 1: well as. Ever you Got freddy who has been a
Speaker 1: bona fide ace In Major league baseball this. Year we
Speaker 1: Get brandon Woodriff back who's fully ramped up going into the.
Speaker 1: Playoffs Quinn priester is one of the best ground ball
Speaker 1: artists in. Baseball you still Have. Miserowski is he a bullpen?
Speaker 1: Arm is he a four inning? Weapon is he going
Speaker 1: seven innings like he did in his last? Start all
Speaker 1: of those options are in the. Air but we also
Speaker 1: Have kintana And Chad. Patrick the bullpen is elite seventh
Speaker 1: In bullpenny are since the break been one of the
Speaker 1: best bullpens all season. Long and the REASON i elevated
Speaker 1: The brewers to my number one spot is BECAUSE i
Speaker 1: have so much faith in the, bullpen especially With trevor
Speaker 1: McGill coming back On september. Sixteenth, yes he'll have enough
Speaker 1: of a ramp up time to get ready for the.
Speaker 1: Postseason so without, McGill they've held it down and now
Speaker 1: they add back an all star caliber, closer and with
Speaker 1: the rotation being so deep with a unbelievable weapon In,
Speaker 1: misrowski they're the deepest PITCHING i think by. Far with The,
Speaker 1: dodgers you just have unbelievable horses at the. Top but
Speaker 1: the reason The dodters falled, TWO i don't love the
Speaker 1: bullpen right if we're splitting hairs between the number one
Speaker 1: and the number two. PICK i have much more faith
Speaker 1: in The brewers. Bullpen AND i think The dodgers starters
Speaker 1: are gonna go six, inning one run with ten. K's
Speaker 1: but if The brewers starters is gonna go six, innings
Speaker 1: one run with six, k's it's just not as, sexy
Speaker 1: but the production is going to be. Similar that's why
Speaker 1: With milwaukee from the first inning to the, NINTH i feel.
Speaker 1: Better but with The, DODGERS i feel better first to the.
Speaker 1: Fifth but this is a staff. Draft that's Why i'm
Speaker 1: already off to a great.
Speaker 2: Start, okay it circles right around to you with a third.
Speaker 1: Pick, Go so the third. Pick this is WHERE i
Speaker 1: think our boards are gonna get a little bit, different
Speaker 1: because both of us could just rank starters in Bullpen
Speaker 1: zer in the second half and be, LIKE i like
Speaker 1: that one a little bit. Better, sure but we also
Speaker 1: have been watching baseball for a long, time and we
Speaker 1: also have pictures that we, like have pictures that we
Speaker 1: want to hang on in a postseason.
Speaker 2: Race, listen, brother sometimes it's not about the x's and,
Speaker 2: o's it's about the jimmy's and the.
Speaker 1: Joke, Yes but the REASON i want to break that
Speaker 1: up is Is i'm already going away from The dubbers with pick.
Speaker 1: Three good like everyone, else who do you? Like who
Speaker 1: do you when you put your head on the? Pillow
Speaker 1: who gives you the sweetest? Dreams and the sweetest dreams
Speaker 1: for me is The. Mariners IF i Got Brian, WU
Speaker 1: i Got Logan, GILBERT i Got George, kirby AND i
Speaker 1: Have Luis. CASTILLO i feel pretty damn. Good, now what
Speaker 1: are people gonna, Say George kirby has not been? Great
Speaker 1: and you'd be. Right he's their three starter in this
Speaker 1: can he bounce? Back i've seen plenty of great playoff
Speaker 1: perform not, plenty but when he's been in the, playoffs
Speaker 1: he's been. DIABOLICAL i remember that start against The, astros seven,
Speaker 1: innings shut, out. Unbelievable so that's your. THREE i feel
Speaker 1: pretty damn good about. That but what elevates them to
Speaker 1: three IS i think this bullpen is. Stacked they're twelfth
Speaker 1: IN era since the, break so the numbers are not.
Speaker 1: Otherworldly BUT i Love, munnos Love Brash bizardo turn seventy
Speaker 1: two innings with a two and a half E ra this.
Speaker 1: Year it's been, really really. Solid you Got Gate spier
Speaker 1: And ferguson as your. Lefties Carlos vargas three five FOUR
Speaker 1: era and sixty eight. INNINGS i count six arms THAT
Speaker 1: i feel good, about with four PITCHERS i feel really good.
Speaker 1: About and then who knows What Bryce miller can give
Speaker 1: you in the. Postseason so for, Me mariners would be my.
Speaker 1: Third so give me The brewers.
Speaker 2: In, Seattle, OKAY i vehemently, disagree And i'm pretty fired
Speaker 2: up that you left this team for me right, Here
Speaker 2: BUT i understand why you did.
Speaker 1: It tell me where The mariners are on your big.
Speaker 2: Board So seattle was in the six range for me
Speaker 2: like six?
Speaker 1: Seven? That oh, God i'm.
Speaker 2: Sorry guys in like the five six seven range for
Speaker 2: me six?
Speaker 1: Seven, YEAH i.
Speaker 2: Like that's. OKAY i did that as a pop culture
Speaker 2: joke like a week and a half. AGO i also
Speaker 2: have no idea what it means it's. From it's from
Speaker 2: like a TWIN i.
Speaker 1: Think, YEAH i. DON'T i don't really, know BUT i
Speaker 1: think it's funny when people say you're our farming in
Speaker 1: our discord after a.
Speaker 2: Show'sdowne, Yeah so sorry for doing. That that was entirely.
Speaker 2: UNINTENTIONAL i. Promise why are you APOLOGIZING i or a
Speaker 2: farm on?
Speaker 1: Purpose?
Speaker 2: YEAH i, know and that's Why i'm better than. You feel. Greater, no,
Speaker 2: MAN i did not mean to do that on. Purpose
Speaker 2: And i'm also. JOKING i entirely accept your level Of aora.
Speaker 1: FARMING i just viewed.
Speaker 2: THEM i think a little bit more fragile in the
Speaker 2: bullpen than some other. Teams right, now IF i have
Speaker 2: a good three Brash, Munnos, bizardo.
Speaker 1: Let's go to.
Speaker 2: Work, YEAH i just don't Think bizarto like makes that.
Speaker 1: Up he's a seventh inning, guy, Right we're not relying
Speaker 1: on him in the. Eighth we're not relying on him
Speaker 1: in the, ninth and a lot of these starters are
Speaker 1: going six.
Speaker 2: Anyway, yeah but there are a Couple there are a
Speaker 2: couple of teams that have a bunch of ninth inning
Speaker 2: guys that are throwing him the, seventh And bizarto was
Speaker 2: a seventh thinny guy throwing in the.
Speaker 1: Seventh yankees have plenty of a ninth any guys thrown
Speaker 1: in the, seventh and none of them.
Speaker 2: Perform, yeah that's Why i'm not picking The. YANKEES i
Speaker 2: am going to go to The Boston Red sox. NEXT
Speaker 2: i like them over my next. PICK i go with
Speaker 2: The Boston Red sox because they have one of the
Speaker 2: best starting pitchers In Major League baseball And gary crowse
Speaker 2: that is not hot and cold right, now but on
Speaker 2: the year in The, macro he's thrown to the peak
Speaker 2: of his. Powers and THEN i look at the other
Speaker 2: pieces in that playoff. Rotation you Assume BeO Starts game, Two,
Speaker 2: Okay he's been. Awesome twenty five starts at a three to.
Speaker 2: One you Go Giolito game, three And, giolito whether you
Speaker 2: like it or you, don't he's been really. Good twenty
Speaker 2: three starts at a three FOUR, era and THEN i
Speaker 2: look at start four if they need, one depending on
Speaker 2: how the schedule lines up as, this choose your fighter
Speaker 2: Of totally And.
Speaker 1: Connolly.
Speaker 2: Early early looks so. Good totally looks so good in his.
Speaker 2: Debut it feels like you can't really go wrong at that.
Speaker 2: Point you just go to the hotter, hand and then
Speaker 2: you go to the bullpen Because, early we'll be a
Speaker 2: swing man if he doesn't get that fourth. Spot totally
Speaker 2: will be a swing man if he doesn't get that fourth.
Speaker 2: Spot AND i look At Eraaldus, chapman who is having
Speaker 2: an unbelievable. Season i'm sorry to see that he allowed
Speaker 2: a couple of, runs uh the other. Day but you Got,
Speaker 2: whitlock who's thrown out of his mind right, Now slayton's.
Speaker 2: BACK i know the numbers aren't, awesome but Justin slayton
Speaker 2: is a, Dog wilson is, Ageless matt's is a ground ball.
Speaker 2: MACHINE i feel good about the back of that bullpen
Speaker 2: to complement the rotation of what they're showing right.
Speaker 1: Now SO i had The Red sox ranked high To
Speaker 1: So i'm not coming at you As, oh that's a terrible.
Speaker 1: Pick WHAT i am going to come at you as,
Speaker 1: is how is The Red sox pitching staff better than
Speaker 1: The mariners?
Speaker 2: GAME i Think crochet is a better one Than wu.
Speaker 1: Is, YES i agree with. YOU i think Bail wu is,
Speaker 1: Amazing so the difference is not that, big BUT i
Speaker 1: agree with. YOU i would Take. Kosh.
Speaker 2: YEAH i Think chapman is better Than munos right, now
Speaker 2: even though you're splitting hairs splitting, hairs AND i think
Speaker 2: the complimentary pieces in the rotation are throwing better right
Speaker 2: now than the complementary pieces in The mariners.
Speaker 1: Rotation game, Two gilbert Versus? BeO who you?
Speaker 2: TAKING i understand what you're, saying and it's probably like
Speaker 2: slight edge To, gilbert But BeO has a three two Era.
Speaker 1: Game, Two who you take?
Speaker 2: It maybe a slight edge To, gilbert BUT i think
Speaker 2: slight edge To crochet in game, one and then throw.
Speaker 1: Me game. Three gilito Versus, Kirby, Yeah gilito right, Now
Speaker 1: i'll Go. Kirby, kirby then get a different Opinion castillo
Speaker 1: versus a duo of rookies.
Speaker 2: That is for me right, now it toss up with
Speaker 2: how they're throwing.
Speaker 1: In the playoffs Though castillo he's had a pretty damn
Speaker 1: good year this. YEAR i, mean we'll.
Speaker 2: See BUT i also think they can mix and match
Speaker 2: in the bullpen a little bit better Than.
Speaker 1: SEATTLE i also Like brash as the second best bullpen
Speaker 1: arm to anyone The Red sox. HAVE i know that they've,
Speaker 1: had Like Will.
Speaker 2: Sin, YEAH i just think bullpen depth is much.
Speaker 1: Better, yeah maybe the STARTING i just Think gilbert bo
Speaker 1: And i'm, LIKE i know Who i'm, taking. Definitely and
Speaker 1: then In game, Three kirby hasn't pitched all that well this,
Speaker 1: Year but Gi, Alito i'm Taking. KIRBY i don't care.
Speaker 2: Guy, yeah right NOW i think It's. Giliito i'm taking
Speaker 2: the hot. Hand you're taking the tried and true guys
Speaker 2: that you are taking on, paper, certainly but one of
Speaker 2: them is throwing better than the other right.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah Because kirby has struggled, LATELY i could see
Speaker 1: where you're coming. From who's your next? Pick Oh, no
Speaker 1: it'd be background to me because we'll keep.
Speaker 2: Alternating, no, No, no it's back around to, me, right
Speaker 2: my first pick at two. Consecutive, NO i know that's
Speaker 2: what arm AND i.
Speaker 1: Did we did, one, two, Three you get four OR
Speaker 1: i get, five, six, seven. Eight we could do you
Speaker 1: could take. TWO i don't. Care why what does that?
Speaker 1: Mean that's not a. Serpentine it's like but it's. Almost,
Speaker 1: no it's. AROUND i think it's.
Speaker 2: AROUND i go, one you go, two, THREE i go,
Speaker 2: four or, five you go.
Speaker 1: Six it careful de incentivizes taking then two in a
Speaker 1: row every single time we go. Down, instead it would
Speaker 1: just be. Alterning you could take two now and then
Speaker 1: we can. Alternate, okay, yeah let's do. That, sure let's do.
Speaker 1: THAT i got to make up for. It you got
Speaker 1: two and?
Speaker 2: Three, yeah you need you need help? Here, yeah and
Speaker 2: you know. What you may consider this a, reach, okay
Speaker 2: give me the super penn Of San.
Speaker 1: DIEGO i don't think it's a reach at. ALL i
Speaker 1: had them at number.
Speaker 2: Four, okay, Good SO i Took San diego. Here and
Speaker 2: the REASON i say, That Michael king is. Back very
Speaker 2: excited for. That king back and pitching in really any
Speaker 2: capacity this. YEAR i feel really good. About paveta has
Speaker 2: been flat out awesome this, year and Then cisondar the
Speaker 2: stuff and the pedigree is there For sees the stuff
Speaker 2: For darvish the, Pedigree i'll bet on. That but you
Speaker 2: can be so darn careful and have a such a
Speaker 2: short leash with both of, them and then you turn
Speaker 2: it over to a pen Of, Suarez Mason, Miller Morohon,
Speaker 2: Estrata David, morgan who's pumping a hundred in case you haven't,
Speaker 2: Noticed Ron, marinaccio who's shoving right now in The padre.
Speaker 2: Pen and then you got other guys that factor in as.
Speaker 2: Well so for, Me, MAN i don't, Know like that's
Speaker 2: WHERE i.
Speaker 1: STAND i Love San. DIEGO i had them at number.
Speaker 1: FOUR i think the bullpen is the best in baseball
Speaker 1: still and it's such a shame to lose a picture
Speaker 1: Like Jason. Adam yeah, right but if one bullpen is
Speaker 1: able to withstand, that it'd be The San Diego. Padres
Speaker 1: you listed all the. NAMES i really have no. Notes
Speaker 1: i'm excited to see What Michael king looks like over
Speaker 1: the last few weeks going into the, playoffs because he's
Speaker 1: a HUGE x factor because if he's not Normal Michael
Speaker 1: king or even eighty percent of What Michael king. Was
Speaker 1: then the starting pitching For San diego gets pretty, weak
Speaker 1: right because cec you just never. Know and the thing
Speaker 1: is With cease is he's gonna go up against The
Speaker 1: dodgers in the, postseason And cease his numbers against The
Speaker 1: dodgers throughout his career have been. Horrific, now on the flip,
Speaker 1: Side darvish's numbers this regular season not great against The.
Speaker 1: Dodgers he's their. Daddy SO i also think about that
Speaker 1: series of, series Like padres are going up against The,
Speaker 1: Dodgers you'd Say cease is the better, pitcher But i'd
Speaker 1: rather Have. Darvish that's how these matchups get really really
Speaker 1: fun and. Interesting but all in, all you have paveda there.
Speaker 1: Too as long As king is, Solid padres had one
Speaker 1: of the better pitching. Staffs, AGAIN i would take both
Speaker 1: of these over The Red. Sox, NO i still like
Speaker 1: The Red. SOX i had him a number, six but
Speaker 1: at number, Five i'm gonna take a page out of your.
Speaker 1: Notebook who's the best pitching staff in baseball this? Year
Speaker 1: make the argument and the numbers would back you. Up
Speaker 1: at least By Ara Texas rangers number one staff will
Speaker 1: ranking first in F. War i'm surprised by that too
Speaker 1: for everybody, Listening BUT i understand Why jacob De gram
Speaker 1: is the. Man. Still Merrill, KELLY i can't say enough
Speaker 1: good things About Merril. Kelly just it feels like every
Speaker 1: single Day. CHEVEN i, know against The, brewers he had
Speaker 1: a little bit of a tough, game but The rangers still, swept,
Speaker 1: right still kept them in the. Ballgame And Jack LYDER
Speaker 1: i continue to bang the drum for this guy just
Speaker 1: gets better and better and, better locating multiple pitches now,
Speaker 1: right he's not just heater and hopefully we're throwing that
Speaker 1: breaker in the strike. Zone everything is working for him
Speaker 1: and he's really showing that potential that we all thought
Speaker 1: he could. Be and Then Jacob. Lats what's there to
Speaker 1: say when he keeps on five in and shut? Up
Speaker 1: he's not the best pitcher in the, world but in
Speaker 1: terms of, production he's got a two nine to one.
Speaker 1: Era the underlying looks pretty. Good he's striking out enough
Speaker 1: batters to, Matter he's not walking. Batters his hits per
Speaker 1: nine is incredibly. LOW i wonder what his opponent batting average.
Speaker 1: Is it's gotta be scary. Low and then the. Bullpen
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of amazing names back, there but it's.
Speaker 1: Deep it's like everyone is super. Solid they have seven
Speaker 1: arms with an era under three and a. Half since the,
Speaker 1: break they still are number one in starter era and
Speaker 1: the other fourteenth in bullpenny Ra, again it's not the
Speaker 1: best bullpen in the. World right with guys Like Sean.
Speaker 1: Armstrong you got multiple webs back. There you Got Hoby,
Speaker 1: milner you Got Robert, garcia you Got Chris. Martin you
Speaker 1: have names where it's, like, oh they're Not, munios they're Not.
Speaker 1: Chapman but think of, It Red sox, fans they have
Speaker 1: a bunch Of. Whitlocks they have a bunch Of Justin
Speaker 1: wilson's solid, arms and they have seven of. Them so
Speaker 1: it sounds, crazy but give me The. Rangers it doesn't sound.
Speaker 2: CRAZY i was hesitant to pick him after The evaldi,
Speaker 2: drop like them not Having. EVALDI i was, Like, oh they're,
Speaker 2: Smoked and somehow they've just continued to tread water in
Speaker 2: the same exact spot one hundred.
Speaker 1: Percent it's been, really really. Impressive that's what's keeping them in.
Speaker 1: Right go look at The brewers. Series it's all a
Speaker 1: bunch of low scoring wins and even on offense like
Speaker 1: that In milwaukee they're having trouble With, Texas like this
Speaker 1: pitching is for. Real shout Out Chris young by the. Way, yeah,
Speaker 1: right THE gm of The, rangers what a job building this,
Speaker 1: bullpen building the starting. Rotation evaldi goes down and you
Speaker 1: don't skip a, Beat, right how many teams did we,
Speaker 1: say go Get Merril? Kelly who was the team to
Speaker 1: do with The rangers and it's being paid off one
Speaker 1: of the best moves of the.
Speaker 2: Deadline, yeah and it's, funny like it's not necessarily bad
Speaker 2: news bears as it pertains to The ranger, pen but
Speaker 2: it feels like the closest thing we've gotten baseball right.
Speaker 2: NOW i mean like he was being passed Around Chris
Speaker 2: martin thirty nine years, old to your, point like they
Speaker 2: have so many pieces that feels, like you, know they
Speaker 2: were almost castaways with their previous. Spot, yeah and now
Speaker 2: they're just finding it in The ranger. Pen so you,
Speaker 2: know maybe maybe great minds think, alike and you, Know
Speaker 2: Chris martin is Or Chris young is is putting, together you,
Speaker 2: know a rotation in a bullpen that just fit a
Speaker 2: particular vibe and, there's you, know some sort of unity,
Speaker 2: there and it seems like it's worked all season, long
Speaker 2: and who's to.
Speaker 1: Say won't work In. October hard to, Explain it is
Speaker 1: hard to, explain but it's. Happening it is.
Speaker 2: Gritty it might be the grittiest.
Speaker 1: Pitching staff In Major League. BASEBALL i. AGREE i lean
Speaker 1: towards great. You on the other, hand not as. MUCH i.
Speaker 2: DON'T i lean towards stuff plus. Models i'm gonna.
Speaker 1: Go here with The Philadelphia.
Speaker 2: Phillies The phillies are pretty low for. ME i understand
Speaker 2: why your questions are the back of that? Rotation are
Speaker 2: they in the? Bullpen, okay so let me make my.
Speaker 2: CASE i know there's No alvarado in that bullpen For,
Speaker 2: october but they have a guy who has been as
Speaker 2: good as anybody in baseball not named skeens In Christopher
Speaker 2: sanchez at the front of that. Rotation sanchez has been.
Speaker 2: Unbelievable Ranger suarez you trust at any, point AND i
Speaker 2: know we were just talking about that earlier this. Week
Speaker 2: Love Ranger sanchez and ranger at the front is. Amazing
Speaker 2: lozardo at the end of the, day in a postseason
Speaker 2: game is going to be throwing ninety eight with a
Speaker 2: sweeper that's straight out of. Hell SO i feel okay
Speaker 2: with That game. Three In game, FOUR i understand That
Speaker 2: Rob thompson is placing a bet On Aaron.
Speaker 1: Nola that's, fine totally.
Speaker 2: FINE i know it might not, Work but who AM
Speaker 2: I i'm pulling a page out of Your rangers textbook
Speaker 2: or Your mariner's. Textbook who AM i to bet Against
Speaker 2: Aaron nola in the postseason when he has Been Aaron
Speaker 2: nola in the postseason so far in his.
Speaker 1: Career, Yeah i've bet On George kirby Over. AARONOLA i
Speaker 1: probably would two at this.
Speaker 2: Point But Aaron nola in the postseason has AN era over. Four,
Speaker 2: actually but in twenty three it was ten and a
Speaker 2: third of four run, ball five innings of four run
Speaker 2: ball in.
Speaker 1: THE ds last. YEAR i don't. Know it's Just nola
Speaker 1: like he's gonna get.
Speaker 2: Crushed he's getting killed right, now AND i don't feel
Speaker 2: awesome about. It but, hey whos to Say bueler doesn't
Speaker 2: have four awesome? Starts there are three awesome starts and
Speaker 2: then he's in the h he's in the.
Speaker 1: Rotation that's SOMEONE i don't want to Doubt.
Speaker 2: LIZARDO i understand why you would Doubt.
Speaker 1: LOZARNO i want to love. IT i want to sew
Speaker 1: bad ninety eight with a. Slider you're, right he's gonna
Speaker 1: come out throwing.
Speaker 2: Fuzz And i'm not saying it's awesome by any. Stretch
Speaker 2: let me tell you. That i'm not saying the three
Speaker 2: and four are. Awesome i'm saying the one and two are.
Speaker 2: Awesome but here's why it. Drops here's why it drops for.
Speaker 2: Me the one and two are absolutely. AWESOME i love
Speaker 2: both of. Those sanchez And rangers, wars no doubt about.
Speaker 2: IT i Love Yuan duran him in the. NINTH i
Speaker 2: feel really really good about.
Speaker 1: It DO i feel good about everybody? Else So i'm
Speaker 1: fifteenth In Bullpenny ra since the break and they won't Have.
Speaker 1: ALVERADO i just look and it's, LIKE i Like Matt,
Speaker 1: STROM i Like Orion. Kirkering David robertson is like forty
Speaker 1: and and he's.
Speaker 2: Great, yeah here's my, thing, MAN i look at one
Speaker 2: and two AND i, Say, Okay sanchez And, SUAREZ i love,
Speaker 2: It doran love, It strom love. It, Robertson, yeah he's been.
Speaker 2: Great kirkering love it that's enough to get you through
Speaker 2: a postseason. Series, like it's not like you're playing four
Speaker 2: games in a. Row you get an off day after
Speaker 2: two game. Stretches we see relievers throw in every game
Speaker 2: in the, postseason AND i trust my big four in
Speaker 2: that bullpen every game in the.
Speaker 1: Postseason it's so funny how AND i just felt privated as.
Speaker 1: Too it's like a guy we haven't seen in the postseason,
Speaker 1: yet but it is having a good regular. Season you
Speaker 1: feel good about him going into the postseason because what
Speaker 1: you're watching right, now The, Phillies i've seen this bullpen
Speaker 1: fold in the, postseason so Now i'm hesitant even though
Speaker 1: they're putting up good regular. Seasons but is it their
Speaker 1: fault they've been in the postseason other other arms. Haven't
Speaker 1: AND i like those other arms better just BECAUSE i
Speaker 1: haven't seen it. YET i don't think that's fair by. Me,
Speaker 1: Yeah AND i think a lot of us sometimes fall
Speaker 1: into that bucket where it's, like because someone struggled in the,
Speaker 1: postseason what the camp bounds?
Speaker 2: Back, yeah what's better going into this? Postseason no sample
Speaker 2: or a slightly negative, sample.
Speaker 1: Probably slightly a negative. Sample and it's Like kirkering right
Speaker 1: Strong Tanner. Banks you, know Maybe Tanner banks isn't a great,
Speaker 1: example but some of these guys have just seen not
Speaker 1: be their best sometimes in, postseason which scares me a little.
Speaker 1: Bit so it's almost, like because they're there so, Often
Speaker 1: i'm docking, them which isn't. Fair so Maybe i'm a
Speaker 1: little bit too low on The. Phillies BUT i do
Speaker 1: definitely have some other teams THAT i would take over. Them,
Speaker 1: okay and now we'll start, alternating so we'll go one
Speaker 1: by one by.
Speaker 2: One, Yes AND i want to get to yours in a,
Speaker 2: moment but before, THAT i would love to take your quick.
Speaker 1: BREAK i like how you took the ad break arm,
Speaker 1: yesterday just took it because he couldn't. Decide he got.
Speaker 1: Scared really, okay, yes BUT i could tell you just
Speaker 1: took it because it's about time to do the ad. Break.
Speaker 1: YEAH i.
Speaker 2: SAW i saw that we were at twenty seven to,
Speaker 2: fifteen AND i was, like you know, what let's do
Speaker 2: it before we get to.
Speaker 1: Thirty but With aram, scared like he was already. Panicking
Speaker 1: you're not.
Speaker 2: Scared i'm never. Scared i'm.
Speaker 1: Scared SOMETIMES i think you're doing, well not as well as.
Speaker 1: Me but better Than arm did. Yesterday so, sweet give
Speaker 1: me The. REDS i just love this rotation so. Much
Speaker 1: now they're not, perfect But Green Hunter green is as
Speaker 1: close to perfect is that any starting pitcher of the.
Speaker 1: Playoffs this guy is mowing down. Hitters and when you
Speaker 1: put up those type of numbers in the little league
Speaker 1: park that The reds play, in a Great AMERICAN i,
Speaker 1: Mean i'll take him against just about. Anybody And. LODOLO i, mean,
Speaker 1: finally how many years have we been super super high
Speaker 1: On lodolo first round, pick seventh overall out A. Tcu
Speaker 1: Unbelievable arm comes, up flashes, brilliance but it's just perpetually.
Speaker 1: Injured and then when he comes, back he's. Inconsistent but
Speaker 1: he's been healthy this. Year he's pitching to a low
Speaker 1: threes again in that. Ballpark lodolo IS i think one
Speaker 1: of the most underrated pitchers that could potentially be in the.
Speaker 1: Playoffs now where The red's gonna make, IT i don't,
Speaker 1: Know but for this, exercise we're looking at all these
Speaker 1: teams that are within striking, distance And, Lodolo i'll take
Speaker 1: him at a number two against just about. Anybody LIKE
Speaker 1: i have a question for, You lodolo Or Brian.
Speaker 2: Bao, nah right, NOW i Think.
Speaker 1: BAO i Think i'm Going.
Speaker 2: LODOLO i understand why you would say number right, NOW
Speaker 2: i Go, Bayo.
Speaker 1: AND i understand why you'd Go. Bao BUT i think
Speaker 1: it's a conversation and for me, personally would Go. Lodolo
Speaker 1: abbot is. Interesting abbot is. Interesting he's put together an unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Year he's coming off an unbelievable, start but if you
Speaker 1: look at his, career he's slowed down towards the final
Speaker 1: month or two every single. Time it makes. Sense where
Speaker 1: he's a young pitcher getting up there in, innings he's
Speaker 1: not quite as precise as he was earlier on in the,
Speaker 1: season might leave one too many, hangars and that's where
Speaker 1: the runs. Come AND i have no idea knowing that
Speaker 1: what he's going to look like in the, PLAYOFFS i don't,
Speaker 1: know but maybe and here's What i'm HANGING i had
Speaker 1: on a little bit extra adrenaline keeps him, precise and
Speaker 1: then he can continue to do what he's done in
Speaker 1: the regular, season which is put up in the era
Speaker 1: below three and that's my three. Starter and Then Brady
Speaker 1: singer is there a hotter pitcher in baseball right, now
Speaker 1: seven of his last eight starts he's given up one
Speaker 1: run or fewer ground ball artist and that's my. Four,
Speaker 1: now middle of the road bullpen doesn't scare. Anybody there's
Speaker 1: a lot of guys WHO i. Like there's nobody THAT i.
Speaker 1: Love it's not The rangers bullpen where it's like seven
Speaker 1: GUYS i, like but The reds have like four THAT i.
Speaker 1: Like but here's the, Weapon Chase burns in a two
Speaker 1: winning type. Role what does he look like in that?
Speaker 1: Bullpen in my, OPINION i think it's gonna be. AWESOME
Speaker 1: i think it's gonna be similar to the weapon That
Speaker 1: miserawski can. Be NOW i Like miserawski more, again but
Speaker 1: If i'm, comparing that would be the closest comparison of
Speaker 1: just a human missile coming in throwing one hundred miles
Speaker 1: an hour maybe more in short berths with that unbelievable breaking,
Speaker 1: ball then you could really just go to two pitches
Speaker 1: and dominate through two. INNINGS i feel like he's gonna
Speaker 1: put up a two, inning four strikeout performance if The
Speaker 1: reds make the. Playoffs so that makes me feel a
Speaker 1: lot better about the. BULLPEN i still don't love, it
Speaker 1: BUT i really like the. ROTATION i like the, bullpen
Speaker 1: but it has more upside With. Burns SO i think
Speaker 1: The reds are one of the best rotations we got
Speaker 1: in this.
Speaker 2: Draft, okay SO i totally understand why you Went cincinnati,
Speaker 2: there and, FRANKLY i don't fault you one bit because
Speaker 2: after THIS i feel like everything drops off pretty.
Speaker 1: Exponentially it's, funny, THOUGH i, mean Maybe i'm just too you,
Speaker 1: know And phillies fans ate me for lunch. Yesterday AM
Speaker 1: i just low on The? PHILLIES i think you'll, say
Speaker 1: just a little. BIT i Think i'm A Red october,
Speaker 1: guy but Maybe i'm. Not, NO i. Am i'll always
Speaker 1: be a.
Speaker 2: REDT i think YOU'RE i think you're fired up about
Speaker 2: The philly, offense but The philly.
Speaker 1: Staff, no oh, HERE i was low on The, phillies
Speaker 1: or are you? Really that's Why i'm, like wait a.
Speaker 1: Minute What i'm valuing right now is Anti. PHILLIES i
Speaker 1: don't mean. IT i don't mean to be. Mean phillies.
Speaker 1: Fans you know what this? Means they're gonna win The World? Series, yes.
Speaker 2: You're.
Speaker 1: Where they're playing so, well And i'm here to be, like,
Speaker 1: no your tenth on both.
Speaker 2: Drafts, honestly in a year where nothing makes, sense it's
Speaker 2: either just gonna be The dodgers walking, everybody or it's
Speaker 2: going to be The phillies that, like actually get over
Speaker 2: the hump this.
Speaker 1: Time, yeah it might. BE i still think there are
Speaker 1: two good staffs before it drops.
Speaker 2: Off you think there are, Two, Okay So i'm a
Speaker 2: little torn between. Two in The American, league do you
Speaker 2: have AN, NL i.
Speaker 1: Have AN nl and AN. Al.
Speaker 2: OKAY i think at this Point i'm gonna lean on
Speaker 2: star power And i'm gonna go with The New York.
Speaker 1: Yankees the bullpen is so. Ast was that your ale
Speaker 1: team or? No, nope The YANKEES i have ranked.
Speaker 2: Eleventh So i'm willing to Trust, weaver who looked really
Speaker 2: good postseason last.
Speaker 1: Year And.
Speaker 2: Bednar i'm willing to Trust. Bednar i'm willing to Trust Fernando.
Speaker 2: Cruz it is fourteen and a half strikeouts per.
Speaker 1: Nine, Yes.
Speaker 2: Doval In devon are toss ups for, me.
Speaker 1: But They're doval In.
Speaker 2: DEVON i Know devon is a five and a half
Speaker 2: hera this. YEAR i know he's been terrible in high,
Speaker 2: leverage but if you put him in in the seventh
Speaker 2: inning or the sixth, inning it's, okay like it.
Speaker 1: Might be, Fine so we'll.
Speaker 2: See and THEN i look at the rotation man AND
Speaker 2: i See, Rodin freed And schlittler is the clear cut, one, two,
Speaker 2: Three and then he'll probably is the. Four AND i
Speaker 2: feel good about that compared to any other rotation that's
Speaker 2: still on the.
Speaker 1: Board also feel pretty decent About Will. WARREN i mean
Speaker 1: it's the. Five like we'll see if he even makes postseason.
Speaker 1: STARTS i don't, know BUT i am saying, that like every,
Speaker 1: DAY i feel pretty, good which is why since the,
Speaker 1: break they're fifth in starter. Era, yeah they're twenty seventh
Speaker 1: in bullpenny Ra yeah.
Speaker 2: That scares me a little. Bit i'm betting on names
Speaker 2: in the bullpen And i'm betting on run of form
Speaker 2: in the.
Speaker 1: Rotation, now did this past series against The tigers may
Speaker 1: make me drop them in my? Rankings? Yeah, Absolutely i'm
Speaker 1: a prisoner of the Moment yankee fan who can't watch them.
Speaker 1: Objectively some people are saying that now smarter people are
Speaker 1: saying this is a perfect. Ranking so which side are you?
Speaker 1: On are you the smarter or? Less SO i don't.
Speaker 1: Know i'm not calling anybody. OUT i feel good about
Speaker 1: The yankees'. Rotation the Bull i'm, terrified, terrible AND i get.
Speaker 1: It terrified LIKE i get. It but So i'm gonna
Speaker 1: go next of a. ROTATION i like More cubs. NOW
Speaker 1: i think the reason they probably dropped off you is
Speaker 1: because their bullpen is. Terrifying you, know you Lose Dania.
Speaker 1: Palenzia it's a similar, Bucket so how does it separate for? Me,
Speaker 1: Shoda Matthew, Boyd Kate, horton and then you got some
Speaker 1: sort of tie on ray combo in the fourth. GAME
Speaker 1: i personally go With james and Ty, on who's kind
Speaker 1: of just been the definition of. Solid he's gonna pitch
Speaker 1: to a four era pretty. Good he'll keep this offense
Speaker 1: in the, game which is still very. Good they're second
Speaker 1: in starter era since the. Break Matthew boyd is just
Speaker 1: putting up an incredible. Season he's got an ra below
Speaker 1: three showed has found. It horton doesn't allow. Runs. EVER
Speaker 1: i feel better about those three THAN i do The.
Speaker 1: Yankees and for how much we trash this cub's, bullpen
Speaker 1: they're twenty first in BULLPEN ara since the break Of.
Speaker 1: Dye The yankees at twenty. Seventh now there are names
Speaker 1: in The yankees bullpen you feel much better. ABOUT i
Speaker 1: picked The mariners for a similar. Reason BUT i also
Speaker 1: am pessimistic about The, yankees And i'm watching them just
Speaker 1: getting blown to pieces while The. Cubs it's not the sexy,
Speaker 1: names but it's not quite as bad as The. Yankees,
Speaker 1: yeah AND i like the rotation. More AND i still
Speaker 1: have another ale team above The. YANKEES i hope you
Speaker 1: don't take, them do? You? OKAY i.
Speaker 2: Do i've Got cleveland, here you stole?
Speaker 1: Them, Okay sorry about.
Speaker 2: That. CLEVELAND i feel like they could if they do
Speaker 2: sneak in mix and match their way To tiger's success
Speaker 2: like we saw in the regular season last year at
Speaker 2: the end of the end in the.
Speaker 1: POSTSEASON i don't mind the rotation at.
Speaker 2: All so After, gavin where do people slot In?
Speaker 1: BIBY i still. TRUST i know he's having a tough. Year,
Speaker 1: YEAH i still Trust. Bibby Joey cantillo has Been cantillo
Speaker 1: has been. Gross he makes a postseason. Start for, me
Speaker 1: there's really no pedigree there with cant find. Nasty but,
Speaker 1: again that's what we're talking about with some of these. Rookies.
Speaker 1: Yep like there's not a lot of pedigree from them.
Speaker 1: Either And Parker messek has been one of the best
Speaker 1: rookie starters during his little cup of coffee so far
Speaker 1: of any of. Them spitch you to With eri blow,
Speaker 1: TWO i, know and that's your.
Speaker 2: Four he's a little scary because he doesn't strike enough dudes.
Speaker 2: OUT i will say, that like the stuff is not loud.
Speaker 2: Enough I'M i don't think for postseason. Baseball but secone
Speaker 2: just went what?
Speaker 1: Seven no? Hit, yeah you got him. Two and the
Speaker 1: bullpen has been awesome The guardians since the break fifth
Speaker 1: Best BULLPENNY ra thirteenth Best STARTER era.
Speaker 2: Two they found another demon in casey haven't watched much
Speaker 2: Of Eric. Sabrowski sabrowski threw for them a little bit
Speaker 2: at the end of last, year and he factored into
Speaker 2: some of their bullpen. Dominance But sabrowski is. Disgusting that
Speaker 2: curveball is. Unbelievable he's really.
Speaker 1: Good Kate smith is still a.
Speaker 2: Demon kate is like the most steady reliever in baseball
Speaker 2: at this.
Speaker 1: Point so. Good so, YEAH i like The guardians. Pick it's.
Speaker 1: FUNNY i had The guardians above The.
Speaker 2: Phillies, okay, wow AND i GUESS i reach for The,
Speaker 2: phillies but DAMN i go With.
Speaker 1: Cleveland AM i just?
Speaker 2: WRONG i think you could be a little, wrong to be.
Speaker 1: Honest what's with me right? NOW i don't. Know i'm
Speaker 1: sticking to, it, though at least so next, up you
Speaker 1: took The, Guardians Phillies yankees are, gone all, Right So
Speaker 1: i'm just gonna go with. Twelve The Blue jays don't love,
Speaker 1: it BUT i do feel good about a. Rotation Bieber,
Speaker 1: Gosmin Shureser. Brios i'll Take. Bieber gosman has been pitching
Speaker 1: out of his mind. Lately schures are they're GONNA i
Speaker 1: don't know if they're skipping one of his, starts but
Speaker 1: they're giving him a little bit more of a break,
Speaker 1: here WHICH i think is gonna bode well for the.
Speaker 1: Postseason And shures are with adrenaline kind of his last.
Speaker 1: Ride i'll back. That and Then brios is having a
Speaker 1: tough second. Half, okay he's your, four. Right. Yeah the
Speaker 1: problem is the bullpen has stunk since the break twenty
Speaker 1: fifth In bullpenny Ra now there are members in The
Speaker 1: Blue jays bullpen who have not been pitching as well
Speaker 1: as they did in the front. Half but Really i'm
Speaker 1: looking At Jeff, hoffman and the Reason i'm comfortable taking
Speaker 1: The Blue jays here is, like, SORRY i still believe in.
Speaker 1: Him is that? Crazy it's Still Jeff. Hoffman the strikeouts
Speaker 1: are still, there it's just he's walking. Everyone so if
Speaker 1: he can make a little mechanical tweak or maybe it's,
Speaker 1: MENTAL i don't, know and just be back in the,
Speaker 1: zone the stuff is too good not to. Succeed and
Speaker 1: then if he's back to, pitching even to a low
Speaker 1: threes three and a half THE, ara which is not.
Speaker 1: Crazy i've seen him put together way better stretches than.
Speaker 1: That This Blue jays bullpen gets a lot better because
Speaker 1: of the. Ninth you don't have to worry about. Losing
Speaker 1: you Got Jeff. Hoffman he can lock it. Down so
Speaker 1: that's Why i'm not in love with The Blue, jays
Speaker 1: BECAUSE i still have. QUESTIONS i don't love the drug
Speaker 1: off Into, scherzer even THOUGH i still would back. Him,
Speaker 1: yeah we'll see quite What bieber looks. Like hasn't been
Speaker 1: great over his last two. Starts i'll take The Blue,
Speaker 1: jays THOUGH i feel okay about.
Speaker 2: It so you rely on your best guys to throw
Speaker 2: their best stuff in the. Postseason that's like WHAT i
Speaker 2: kind of adhere. To best guys throw best shit. LOWER
Speaker 2: i like as A swiss army. Knife he can just
Speaker 2: kind of fill in wherever. Needed if a starter goes
Speaker 2: two and a, third you can bridge lower until you
Speaker 2: get to leverage. Guys Brendan, little it's a matter of throwing.
Speaker 2: Strikes he could come in and curveball his way through a, one,
Speaker 2: two three, Inning yes he. Could Louis varlin throws. Fuzz
Speaker 2: Sir anthony throws. Fuzz these guys could ninety nine their way.
Speaker 1: THROUGH i Know varlin's been so bad for The, jays
Speaker 1: at least.
Speaker 2: LATELY i, know but he was really good With, minnesota
Speaker 2: and that's why we saw a top one hundred prospect
Speaker 2: move For Louis varland really.
Speaker 1: Good that's why it's like they're. There can they perform
Speaker 1: better down the? Stretch i'm hoping, Yeah AND i.
Speaker 2: Like it's just a matter of hunkering down and throwing
Speaker 2: your best.
Speaker 1: Stuff were they next for?
Speaker 2: You toronto was next for. Me, Yeah SO i like
Speaker 2: that pick for. You now it starts to get a
Speaker 2: little hairy And, HONESTLY i don't Think i'm reaching here
Speaker 2: WHEN i Say, houston Because i'm betting on the best
Speaker 2: one two punch still on the board and one of
Speaker 2: the better one two punches in. Baseball Hunter brown Fromber
Speaker 2: Baldez game, One game, TWO i don't care who. Starts
Speaker 2: they're both, awesome AND i Trust Hunter brown and Fromber,
Speaker 2: Baldez Christian. XAVIER i know he's coming Off Tommy john.
Speaker 2: SURGERY i know the era is north of fourth through
Speaker 2: a handful of. Starts he started a no hitter in the.
Speaker 2: POSTSEASON i started a no hitter in the freaking it
Speaker 2: Was World?
Speaker 1: Series?
Speaker 2: Right was It World series or was It alcs against The. Phillies,
Speaker 2: yes it was no hitter in The World.
Speaker 1: Series and he's he gives me.
Speaker 2: Nightmares, YEAH i understand because he's been A yankee killer.
Speaker 1: Before yankees did hit him in his last. Start watch, Out,
Speaker 1: javier there we, go just get. IT i don't even
Speaker 1: want to put that into the. ETHER i did beat, It,
Speaker 1: AVIER i did beat. It. Yeah the thing is with
Speaker 1: the ashes of the, BULLPEN i.
Speaker 2: Know and No hater really sucks.
Speaker 1: Capable we got bad news About hater. TOO i don't
Speaker 1: even know if he's going to be ready for the.
Speaker 1: Postseason he hit another. Snag he hasn't even started throwing. Yet,
Speaker 1: yeah so if he hasn't started throwing, yet that hurts
Speaker 1: the bullpen a lot because he was putting up an
Speaker 1: awesome season and Since hater went out On august, eighth
Speaker 1: Since august, ninth it's a bottom ten. Bullpen. YEAH i
Speaker 1: still love a bray you and they've had a lot
Speaker 1: of solid performances to get them to this. Point but
Speaker 1: now you're starting to see those subside and Without hater
Speaker 1: to come in and save. Them BUT i agree with.
Speaker 1: YOU i feel really good about those. Three but here's
Speaker 1: the thing for Is Jason alexander who just shut down
Speaker 1: The Blue, Jays LIKE i don't, KNOW i. Know it
Speaker 1: could also be.
Speaker 2: If you trust mcculors to just spin a bunch of
Speaker 2: curve balls for two innings and then you bullpen. It but,
Speaker 2: like how often do you need a game four?
Speaker 1: Starter you?
Speaker 2: Know like why Can't fromber go one four? Seven i'd
Speaker 2: probably Get brown one for, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Brown brown one four?
Speaker 2: Seven like, okay, Actually, carrot who would you give one four?
Speaker 1: Seven would you still just give it To? Fromber Because
Speaker 1: brown is.
Speaker 2: Unbelievable brown has been ridiculous for sake of track. Record,
Speaker 2: HONESTLY i feel like it could change depending on off.
Speaker 2: DAYS i would set up Like brown to start game,
Speaker 2: one and THEN i would maybe set Up fromber to
Speaker 2: start game one the next go, round depending on who.
Speaker 1: Pitches better in The.
Speaker 2: Alds, YEAH i don't just ride the hotter hand and it's, Like,
Speaker 2: okay you start game, one you start game.
Speaker 1: TWO i Had astros next, too SO i like to.
Speaker 2: Pick the other thing THAT i want to shout out
Speaker 2: is the bullpen depth is really not. Great you, Know
Speaker 2: bray you can. Close But Brian king has been good this.
Speaker 2: Year oakert has been good this. Year and a name
Speaker 2: That i'm not ready to give up. On man like
Speaker 2: it feels like The angels for, you but a player for.
Speaker 2: ME i know he was terrible last. Year But Craig
Speaker 2: kimbrel has punched out ten across seven innings of work
Speaker 2: so far this. Year i'm not saying it's gonna be.
Speaker 2: Amazing i'm just, saying, like it's Still Craig. Kimbrel and
Speaker 2: what if he turns back the clock a little, bit we.
Speaker 1: See what happened To. Chapman who knows with These hall of,
Speaker 1: FAMERS i, know maybe they could catch lightning in a.
Speaker 1: BOTTLE i don't hate the. SHOUT i don't hate it
Speaker 1: at all because the stuff has looked. Good and if
Speaker 1: the stuff is good and he's in the, zone Still
Speaker 1: Craig kimberl, yep my next. Pick the last four teams
Speaker 1: for me are, tough but there's one that kind of
Speaker 1: rises to the top of the last, four and that's The. Tigers.
Speaker 1: YEAH i Get scooble best. Pictrelive maybe you could Say,
Speaker 1: skeins but in this format It's. Schooble so game ONE
Speaker 1: i feel good against just about. Anybody the problem is
Speaker 1: game two and THREE i feel not. Good AND i
Speaker 1: think they might have of at least the division leaders
Speaker 1: the weakest two, three just Because flarerty and my is
Speaker 1: like they still have. Talent it's Still Jack, flerty it's
Speaker 1: Still Casey Mies, like these are good, pitchers but the
Speaker 1: second Half's i've just been really. Disappointed now mys Throw
Speaker 1: oka in his last, Outing flarerty not so much since the.
Speaker 1: Break they're seventeenth in starter, era and there's a REASON
Speaker 1: i didn't really List Charlie. Morton Maybe Troy milton is
Speaker 1: able to throw some valuable innings for them in the. Playoffs,
Speaker 1: Yeah Kyle finnigan going down really hurts this, bullpen but
Speaker 1: they are eleventh In bullpenny ra since the. Break there's
Speaker 1: still remnants of chaos still. There SO i don't feel
Speaker 1: good about the rotation at all outside Of, schooble BUT
Speaker 1: i feel pretty good about the, bullpen AND i Have,
Speaker 1: scooble and when we're getting to this part of the,
Speaker 1: DRAFT i feel like it's The.
Speaker 2: Tigers, yes we are getting to this part of the,
Speaker 2: draft and that is Why i'm gonna bed on a
Speaker 2: little bit of chaos and The National league right. Here,
Speaker 2: okay there's a world where the, one two three in
Speaker 2: the postseason For Carlos mendoza is McClain. SPROTE i don't
Speaker 2: think that's actually gonna, happen but all three of those
Speaker 2: guys can be on the postseason. Roster McClain seems like
Speaker 2: your game one star right, now and that is electric
Speaker 2: whoever you decide to move to the. Pen arm made
Speaker 2: the point on the last, episode what If manaia just
Speaker 2: crossed fires and ticks up to like ninety three for
Speaker 2: two innings and it. Works Clay. Holmes we know this
Speaker 2: guy has been An All star closer. Before what If
Speaker 2: Clay holmes pivots to the pen and is really good and, then,
Speaker 2: oh by the, way you Got Tyler, rodgers you Got Edwin, Diaz,
Speaker 2: Brooks rayley's been throwing the ball, Well gregorysoto still throws
Speaker 2: one hundred miles an. Hour there's enough here to make
Speaker 2: it intriguing to stay away from the autumn three in this.
Speaker 1: Draft so here's how you know a pitcher isn't performing.
Speaker 1: Well When jack doesn't say they're performing, well he goes
Speaker 1: with their. Stuff, yeah you, know it's, like that's. Correct
Speaker 1: guy's throwing a. Hundred how's he do?
Speaker 2: It Ryan, helsey he's throwing a hundred.
Speaker 1: Hundred THAT i had The mets ranked dead.
Speaker 2: Last, okay SO i get why you did, that BUT
Speaker 2: i just disagree with.
Speaker 1: You, okay that's. Funny here's the thing three. Rookies rookies
Speaker 1: historically have not performed well in the, playoffs no matter
Speaker 1: how good they do in the regular. Season And i'm
Speaker 1: not even Sure Brandon sproute is even. Ready tong looked
Speaker 1: great in his first, start not so much in a.
Speaker 1: Second that's what we have to go off of. McClain
Speaker 1: i like he's a rookie Going game, one him Versus
Speaker 1: Christopher sanchez him, verse like showed him versus anyone's. Won
Speaker 1: i'm taking all of, them every single. One in the,
Speaker 1: Postseason i'm taking over whoever The mets are gonna go
Speaker 1: with at third number one. Starter and here's the. Thing
Speaker 1: when none of your starters can go very long the,
Speaker 1: bullpen it weighs on. Them it weighs on, Him it
Speaker 1: weighs on, Him it weighs on. Him that's why in
Speaker 1: the second half The mets bullpen ranks twenty third in
Speaker 1: era they ring twenty third and starter era.
Speaker 2: Two think about who's been making those. STARTS i, Mean
Speaker 2: sanga was making those, starts and who's to Say sanga
Speaker 2: can't ghost fork is way through two?
Speaker 1: Inning, Yes sega ninety.
Speaker 2: Six, sometimes, UH i understand what you're. Saying but, again
Speaker 2: the postseason is a different structure than the regular, season
Speaker 2: and it's a different structure for these, rookies and they've
Speaker 2: been going back to the well with, Like, okay time
Speaker 2: For manaya, again time for homes.
Speaker 1: Again are you enjoying?
Speaker 2: That, No i'm hating it right.
Speaker 1: Now but the seasons a little.
Speaker 2: Different it's.
Speaker 1: True we could just wish and.
Speaker 2: Pray i'm In, hey we are at the wish and
Speaker 2: pray point of the.
Speaker 1: Program all, right let's wish and prey on The Arizona.
Speaker 2: Dividbacks, DUDE i know they were dead last for.
Speaker 1: Me the that's real. LAST i have The giants at.
Speaker 1: Sixteen it's funny because they're actually pitching pretty well since the,
Speaker 1: break which is why they got the tiebreaker for. Me
Speaker 1: not the sexiest. Snaps gallon been pitching a lot better
Speaker 1: since the. Break you know. THAT i don't even have
Speaker 1: to talk about the fact that he throws ninety four
Speaker 1: because his numbers are actually. Good, Yeah Ryan nelson ninety,
Speaker 1: six just. KIDDING i don't have to talk about velocity
Speaker 1: because he's been really good since the. Break SO i
Speaker 1: have those. Two i'm taking those over anybody The mets
Speaker 1: are gonna give. Me and then. Three you, know Ed
Speaker 1: Ward rodriguez was a good pitcher like five years. Ago
Speaker 1: brandon fought stuff plus is not. Bad that's what we,
Speaker 1: got and that the bullpen nineteenth is not bottom.
Speaker 2: Ten have you done the read the names of the
Speaker 2: guys in The diamondbacks bullpen?
Speaker 1: Yet, Yeah i've seen them. Too they're not that.
Speaker 2: GREAT i, mean, listen No, martinez No, gamkle No. Puck
Speaker 2: that bullpen is. Decimated Saw, frank uh parlay is. Over
Speaker 2: he is back in the. Fold Saw frank was dealing
Speaker 2: with a gambling.
Speaker 1: Suspension there almost A World series Champion andrew Sl.
Speaker 2: Frank is Saw frank eligible for postseason play if he
Speaker 2: was on the suspended?
Speaker 1: List maybe. Not it's a great.
Speaker 2: Question that's a great question somebody answering the YouTube comments
Speaker 2: or via our. Discord if Sal frank is ineligible for
Speaker 2: postseason play and you take Sl frank out of the,
Speaker 2: fold you're relying On Jake, Woodford Taylor, Rashie Kyle, Bachis
Speaker 2: Ryan thompson is four to, Three Jalen, Beeks Brandon, Garcia John,
Speaker 2: Curtis Anthony Di scliffani to get you humongous outs in the.
Speaker 1: Prestseason all of them have not been very, good and
Speaker 1: they're still better than The mets since the. Break.
Speaker 2: Uh, yeah but The mets have sex, appeal name, intrigue
Speaker 2: they've got. Stuff hellsley throws one. Hundred uh the last.
Speaker 1: Production, sorry you've been talking About bozra. Forever you Like production? Two?
Speaker 1: YEAH i. Do like, production but it doesn't fit my agenda.
Speaker 2: Here last pick of the draft Is San, francisco and
Speaker 2: you look at the rotation and you're okay with, it
Speaker 2: the front Two web And, ray but after That verlander
Speaker 2: Gets game. Three, Okay verlander has been he's been okay
Speaker 2: as of, late and then game, FOUR i don't think
Speaker 2: you need to do. THAT i think you'll just Run
Speaker 2: Logan web into the. Ground there No dovall in this
Speaker 2: pen really. Hurts Brian walker has been better as of.
Speaker 2: Late they have other guys that have been. Good Matt
Speaker 2: cage has been. Good Luke, CAZy i don't know where been.
Speaker 2: Good budo has been okay for them as, well.
Speaker 1: Has been good for. Them Sorry mets, fans and Sorry
Speaker 1: mets fans that The giants bullpen is ninth and E
Speaker 1: rara since the. Break that's WHY i ranked them. Higher
Speaker 1: there's just, yeah let's go through game one, Starters web versus,
Speaker 1: McLain who you, taking, Oh, Web ray Versus, peterson toss?
Speaker 1: UP i THINK i might Take, ray and then The
Speaker 1: giants bullpen has been. Better toss. Up that's why The
Speaker 1: mets fell to. Last, yeah, okay that's our. Draft you're
Speaker 1: already for a weekend. Preview well's, uh do you have
Speaker 1: the teams written? DOWN i do go over. Them.
Speaker 2: Okay SO i took The dodgers. One you took The
Speaker 2: brewers two and The mariners. THREE i took The Red
Speaker 2: sox four and The padres. Five you took The. RANGERS
Speaker 2: i took The. Phillies you took The. REDS i took The.
Speaker 2: Yankees you took The. CUBS i took The. Guardians you
Speaker 2: took The Blue. JAYS i took The. Astros you took The.
Speaker 2: TIGERS i took The. Mets you took The. DIAMONDBACKS i
Speaker 2: took The. Giants mets, Last giants, Last diamondbacks, Last actually The. Giants,
Speaker 2: okay weekend preview. Time i'm just gonna throw you some
Speaker 2: pitching matchups and you tell me who the winner. Is
Speaker 2: i'm actually gonna pivot on. THAT i want line predictions
Speaker 2: for both of these. Guys at seven ten pm In South,
Speaker 2: Florida Trek scooble Against Sandy alcntra In Tigers.
Speaker 1: Marlins, OOH i Think sandy goes qs quality, start six,
Speaker 1: innings three, runs Six k's, OKAY i Think scooble goes eight,
Speaker 1: innings four, hits one earned seven.
Speaker 2: Punchouts, Okay Shane, Boz Matt boyd one twenty on A,
Speaker 2: Friday baby At Wrigley, Field boyd at home Against.
Speaker 1: Boss i'm gonna Take. Boyd give me The, cubs.
Speaker 2: Okay, Uh let's go To Luisia Lucas gilito At fenway
Speaker 2: at seven ten.
Speaker 1: Tonight, Mmm Red sox have kind of owned. Us this
Speaker 1: is where we bounce. Back give me the. Inks, okay
Speaker 1: this one fires me.
Speaker 2: Up seven to ten. Tonight Jonah toong In New york
Speaker 2: Against jacob De gram making his return To Metland.
Speaker 1: Rangers rangers that it's a De grom like remember? Me
Speaker 1: that would be so.
Speaker 2: Cool, yeah Gimme Hurston waldrip's line against The astros In
Speaker 2: atlanta seven to fifteen On, friday.
Speaker 1: Five, innings two, runs Five k's pedestrian line for. Him. Okay.
Speaker 2: Uh give me the total number of ground balls induced
Speaker 2: By Quinn priester And Andre palante And cardinals brewers In.
Speaker 1: Milwaukee cardinals make a lot of, contact which means there's
Speaker 1: going to be a lot of ground. Balls give me twelve.
Speaker 2: Twelve total or just from priest oh, oh just from.
Speaker 1: Priests plant is ground ball. Machine. Two, yeah but The
Speaker 1: birds are probably gonna lift it in the air and
Speaker 1: like be, like oh nice.
Speaker 2: Gros, okay but you got twelve ground balls From Quinn.
Speaker 2: Priester he's twelve and. Two does he improve to thirteen and?
Speaker 1: Two? Yes he? Does.
Speaker 2: Okay H Yoshinoba yamamoto In San francisco Against Justin Verlander Dodgers.
Speaker 1: Giants yamamoto's coming off his career high in. INNINGS i
Speaker 1: actually think that's the Sneaky giants. Win. There give Me
Speaker 1: verlander and The.
Speaker 2: Giants, okay Raised cubs On saturday At, Wrigley Colin ray
Speaker 2: and his four to two Against Drew rasmussen and his
Speaker 2: two SIX.
Speaker 1: I like the raised bounce back. There give me The Rays.
Speaker 2: Okay Orioles Blue jays In, Toronto Chris bassett Against Trevor
Speaker 2: rodgers In.
Speaker 1: Toronto can't go against The rogers. Train give me The
Speaker 1: orioles and four straight wins by. Walkoff momentum is good
Speaker 1: over there In.
Speaker 2: Baltimore that's a three o'clock start In, toronto four o'clock In.
Speaker 2: Washington how many pitches thrown ninety seven plus Between Cade
Speaker 2: cavali And Bubba.
Speaker 1: Chandler CAN i just say all of. Them, yeah that's,
Speaker 1: fine all, right all of?
Speaker 2: Them how About freed and Bail Red Sox yankees At
Speaker 2: fenway at four o'clock On.
Speaker 1: Saturday yankees.
Speaker 2: Begrudgingly you don't feel good, hot you don't feel awesome about.
Speaker 1: THAT i never feel good against The Red.
Speaker 2: Sox, okay let's Go Mets rangers at four o'clock On.
Speaker 2: Saturday Brandon sprote Against Patrick. CORBYN MM.
Speaker 1: I think The rangers stay. HOT i like Sprot corbin,
Speaker 1: LIKE i gotta look at how his numbers are against The.
Speaker 1: Mets obviously spent a ton of time In. Washington The
Speaker 1: Mets bats have seen him, plenty SO i could be wrong,
Speaker 1: there BUT i STILL i would go with The.
Speaker 2: Rangers corbyn's been really bad after The All star. Break
Speaker 2: he was really good before. It diamondbacks have been really.
Speaker 1: Good what but The rangers have been really? Good?
Speaker 2: Yeah diamondbacks. TWINS i bet you didn't think you were
Speaker 2: gonna get one of. These but It's Joe ryan Against
Speaker 2: Ryan nelson at seven o'clock On.
Speaker 1: Saturday snake's, Alive ryan like if he doesn't absolutely dominate
Speaker 1: the twins Of No shot and The diamondbacks offense is still.
Speaker 2: GREAT i THINK i love that for the induced vertical
Speaker 2: break Crowd saturday at seven to ten In. Minnesota that's
Speaker 2: your ballgame Between Ryan nelson And Joe.
Speaker 1: Ryan you Like, risers go check it.
Speaker 2: Out eight On saturday Night Padres. Rockies but It's darvish Against,
Speaker 2: dolander Where san diego away from cours For, dolander who
Speaker 2: has been very good away from.
Speaker 1: Course, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Padres, Okay Hunter green In sacramento Against Louis, Severino red's a's.
Speaker 1: Reds you Got green on the. Mound there's not a
Speaker 1: lot of teams and pitchers that could point me in
Speaker 1: a different. Direction, okay, scrolling, scrolling? Scrolling.
Speaker 2: Okay how about one forty On Sunday Rangers mets In New,
Speaker 2: York nolan McLain Against Jacob, Latz rangers.
Speaker 1: Sweep all?
Speaker 2: Right how about this is fun four oh five In
Speaker 2: San francisco On, Sunday Logan webb Against Tyler glassnow And Dodgers.
Speaker 1: Giants. Dodgers Glass now is pitching out of his mind right,
Speaker 1: now and The dodgers have always done pretty well against
Speaker 1: web IF i remember, CORRECTLY i think that's where The
Speaker 1: dodgers get one.
Speaker 2: Back cool and then last One Sunday Night, baseball The
Speaker 2: Yankees Red sox At, Fenway Will warren Against Gary. Krochet
Speaker 2: crochet is gonna mollywop Us Red. Sox, okay so The
Speaker 2: yankees win the, series but The Red sox.
Speaker 1: Salvage, yes and they went On Sunday Night. Baseball cool
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