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Speaker 2: Welcome In what'ch driving Me? Great?

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Speaker 3: Episode two seventy eight, Demonde and the producers worried that

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Speaker 3: I was so quiet in the pre show run up.

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Speaker 3: Bill Barnwell just dropped an opus, as he is wont

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Speaker 3: to do, and it the headline of it is can

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs go undefeated?

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Speaker 2: How they're winning? What's next?

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Speaker 3: And you know, I mean, it's a Barnwell article, so

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Speaker 3: it's just great. It's all different sections, and the different

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Speaker 3: sections are how the Chiefs have gotten here. I've read

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Speaker 3: that part is their start actually sustainable? I just read

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Speaker 3: that part and I just got to this section, are

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Speaker 3: they the worst nine to O team ever? And I

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Speaker 3: got irrationally angry before even reading it, And so I

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Speaker 3: haven't gotten to the other sections. What has sunk the

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Speaker 3: previous unbeaten teams? And will the Chiefs improve and go seventeen?

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Speaker 3: And oh, I'll get to that. But Barnwell's articles are

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Speaker 3: like four or five thousand words, so you really, you

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Speaker 3: really got to sink your teeth into him. So that's

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Speaker 3: why I was so quiet, and the pre show run

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Speaker 3: of this as I could before we because I know,

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Speaker 3: Chiefs Bills Game of the Year, four twenty five CBS

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Speaker 3: and no counter programming. There's not another CBS game and

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Speaker 3: there's not another four to twenty five games, so I

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Speaker 3: don't want to step on our a block. But at

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Speaker 3: the this week in Slate starting tonight, I mean there

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Speaker 3: are some A plus games, Commander's Eagles, NFC East leadership

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Speaker 3: one A plus game Raven Steelers. I mean, listen, I'm

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Speaker 3: a Fox guy, but shout out CBS. Going from Raven

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Speaker 3: Steelers at one to then Chiefs Bills at four to

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Speaker 3: twenty five, pretty sick. And the only other four o'clock

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Speaker 3: bad one Seahawks and I is actually a good game.

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Speaker 3: But those are both four five starts, and so the

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Speaker 3: nation's eyes are gonna be on Mahomes and Allen. I

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Speaker 3: for it. So we'll get to that in a moment. First,

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Speaker 3: what missed the cut in surprising absolutely no one? Anthony

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Speaker 3: Richardson back being the Colt starter. Poor Jalen Rose relives

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Speaker 3: the fab five thirty plus years later, the timeout they

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Speaker 3: courtside and Jake Paul only a two to one favored

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Speaker 3: Paul's only a two to one favorite. I mean, Tyson's

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Speaker 3: don't think it's realistic. But I would have thought Jake

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Speaker 3: if you're watching on YouTube, why I'm wearing a hat

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Speaker 3: today when I never wear a hat on the pod.

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Speaker 3: No TV show today. We're preempted by a soccer match.

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Speaker 3: We'll be back tomorrow, and so since there's no TV show,

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Speaker 3: Shout out Bobby wit Junior. I don't even know if

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Speaker 4: Yeah. So we talked about on Hell on Tuesday. It's

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Speaker 4: clearly agrees. The books have eighty percent of the money

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Speaker 3: Well, so the Sharps like the Bills, and the Sharps

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Speaker 2: So all those things.

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Speaker 3: And if you remember Demanse, before the year, when I

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Speaker 2: That's what I said.

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Speaker 3: I don't quite feel the same way right now, and

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Speaker 2: Multi layered.

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Speaker 3: One is, I really do think the Chiefs got a

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Speaker 3: whole can we go undefeated is a thing. Also, given

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Speaker 3: It did feel to me, like I had said leading

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Speaker 3: because if the Chiefs win this game, they essentially lock

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh's an underdog this weekend to Baltimore. If the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: That is not gonna happen now.

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Speaker 3: Conversely, if the Chiefs lose to Buffalo, then all Buffalo

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Speaker 3: It has not practiced yet this week. The one spot

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Speaker 3: defending tight ends. So if King Kaid is out for Buffalo,

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Speaker 3: that is a huge loss for them and the one

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Speaker 3: that the Chiefs can have two things right now. They're

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Speaker 3: struggling at the left tackle position, which is a legitimate concern.

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Speaker 3: But Wanya Morris luckily practiced in full yesterday at Kingsley Sumteya.

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Speaker 2: The rookie is just not ready, so he should be back.

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Speaker 3: He left last week's game with injury, and then defending

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Speaker 3: tight ends has been a bit of a problem. If

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Speaker 2: So I have been.

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Speaker 3: Consistently respectful and consistently correct about the Bills this year.

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Speaker 3: Wilds yesterday said to me that my Bill's opinions confusing

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Speaker 3: I somewhat annoyedly said to Wild's, my Bill's confusing is

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Speaker 3: My Bill's opinion is not confusing at all. It's very

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Speaker 3: very simple. It's correct consistently year over year. When other

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Speaker 3: people thought they were a Super Bowl team, I was

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Speaker 3: correct in saying you're overrating them, and when other people

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Speaker 3: the second best team.

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Speaker 3: I do think that now Baltimore is a weird one

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Speaker 3: I don't think Buffalo has a glaring weakness, and so

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Speaker 3: I think Buffalo's really good. But Patrick Mahomes as an

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Speaker 3: They've scored thirty plus in four straight games. I thought

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Speaker 3: A couple weeks ago against Miami. I do like the

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Speaker 3: this was a game I thought the Chiefs would lose.

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Speaker 3: I think the emotional boost that they got from the

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Speaker 3: that he missed Kelsey to win that game outright essentially

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Speaker 2: All of those things to me, going the Chiefs favor

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Speaker 2: go ahead, demanse.

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Speaker 4: Feel like I'm surprised. Well, I'm not gonn feel like

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Speaker 4: I'm surprised, but I am surprised that you're going in

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Speaker 4: the opposite duration. He felt like the Bills were gonna

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Speaker 4: like that's more of a reason that they should lose

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Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, unless it's kind of like a team

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Speaker 3: of Destiny Field and no, no, no, I get I

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Speaker 3: understand what you're saying, but the I just that was

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Speaker 3: it was such a you know, Mahomes celebration in that

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Speaker 4: So Tonight's game is huge for your season long bets.

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Speaker 4: really awesome. Yeah, say, but Philly last year lost five

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Speaker 2: And if Philly wins tonight. It's a bad spot for me.

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Speaker 4: It looks like probably the most complete of teams that

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Speaker 2: No, you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 4: That one's got like a little bit of an astress

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Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, you're one hundred percent right. Like

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Speaker 3: there's no question that this will be This is the

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Speaker 3: Philly scored twenty straight. Give them credit the Bucks when

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: Next, Cincinnati was one of the teams you had in

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Speaker 2: So the Bengals lose.

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Speaker 3: So I oddly don't think the Bengals season is over

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Speaker 2: You give them credit.

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Speaker 3: I am really interested in what the Chargers are gonna

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Speaker 2: See, but they haven't had to really go ahead?

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Speaker 4: What was yours? There's a Bengals win there and them

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Speaker 2: So a lot of people think that.

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Speaker 3: Because this scenario obvious would be the Bengals are the seven,

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Speaker 3: who's the two seed? Is it gonna be Buffalo? Is

436
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Speaker 3: it gonna be Baltimore? I guess if it's Pittsburgh, I'd

437
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Speaker 3: probably rather Pittsburgh go ahead and you know, and move on.

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Speaker 3: But at that point, if Pittsburgh's earned the two seed,

439
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Speaker 3: you know, it means Pittsburghs pretty damn team.

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Speaker 2: And TJ.

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Speaker 3: that I look forward to. So I don't I yes,

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Speaker 3: obviously i'd rather as a Chiefs fan, the Colts get

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447
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Speaker 3: one seed super Bowl chances, And so I don't, you know,

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Speaker 3: I don't hate the idea of a Bengals team that

449
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Speaker 3: does that, then has a crazy emotional road playoff victory win,

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Speaker 3: and then with the Chiefs having been rested for a

452
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Speaker 3: couple of weeks, comes into Arrowhead with that defense, and

453
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Speaker 3: the Chiefs you know, get to knock them around a bit.

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Speaker 3: So no, it's not the ideal scenario. And I think

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Speaker 3: it really has to do with who is the two seed.

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Speaker 3: If Buffalo is the two seed, I'll take Cincinnati as

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Speaker 3: the seven.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 3: To me, that's a win win. Either Buffalo's got to

460
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Speaker 3: really expend a lot of emotional and real energy to

461
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Speaker 3: beat them, or Cincinnati knocks the Bills off for us

462
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Speaker 3: don't even have to deal with them. And so now

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Speaker 3: if somehow Houston is the two seed or Pittsburgh is

464
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Speaker 3: the two seed, then I'd rather one of those teams

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Speaker 3: beat Cincinnati because I don't think either of those teams

466
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Speaker 3: are good. Like the thing about Houston, and I'm not

467
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Speaker 3: trying to disrespect them, the interior of their offensive line

468
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Speaker 3: is so bad that I just think that's a game

469
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Speaker 3: Chris Jones can win by himself. I think when you

470
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Speaker 3: have the best d tackle in football and you're up

471
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Speaker 3: against one of the worst guard center guard combos in football,

472
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Speaker 3: that game can just be over. And so that's.

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Speaker 2: Cee J.

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Speaker 3: Stroud in Arrowhead like that's that's a tough spot for him,

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Speaker 3: all right.

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Speaker 4: Last one the Jets has been The Jets season has

477
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 4: been the joy to watch for everyone, especially you, I

478
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 4: feel like, but not for Jets fans. When asked if

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00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,760
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00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 4: I think so, yeah, So not sure how much to

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Speaker 4: read into that with everything that's gone on with Aaron

482
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Speaker 4: Rodgers and the Jets this year. What do you think

483
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 4: is more likely he comes back, retires, or the Jets

484
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Speaker 4: cut it?

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00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 3: So am I out to lunch on this that I

486
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Speaker 3: was shocked. I'm I'm shocked Aaron might want to come back,

487
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Speaker 3: And I'm even more shocked that there seems to be

488
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Speaker 3: the general media reaction that the Jets would want him back.

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Speaker 3: In what world is it good for the New York

490
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00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,600
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492
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,880
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493
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Speaker 3: I they're going to be hiring a new head coach.

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00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 3: When you're interviewing the best head coaching candidates, do you

495
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Speaker 3: think saying you'll have one more year of forty one

496
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 3: year old soon to be forty two at the time,

497
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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers is a proer a con as to why

498
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Speaker 3: that coach would want the job. And if you're trying

499
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Speaker 3: to build up a culture and a new program, why

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Speaker 3: on earth would you want Aaron Rodgers to be a

501
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 3: part of it. And then you add to that's just

502
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Speaker 3: the intangible stuff. Then you add this factor which is

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Speaker 3: I just think people are living in a in a

504
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Speaker 2: He's terrible, He's really bad, Like.

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Speaker 3: He's just as a football player, he's sixty two percent

507
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 3: passing six point four yards per carry or yards per carry,

508
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Speaker 3: yards per attempt. Pardon me, I he cannot escape at

509
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Speaker 3: all to save his life. I just why would the

510
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 3: the Jets have if if the speculation is correct and

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Speaker 3: Trump is gonna reappoint Woody Johnson to be the ambassador

512
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 3: to either England or some other ambassadorship, and what he

513
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 3: has to once again hand over control of the team

514
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Speaker 3: to his brother Christopher wo He made this deal with Aaron,

515
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 3: not Christopher. Shouldn't Christopher Johnson look at it and be like,

516
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 3: we're gonna have a top five pick, new head coach,

517
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 3: new GM. We've got our three young guys, Quinn Sauce

518
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 3: and Garrett Davante. You can go, Aaron, you can go,

519
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 3: Tyrone Smith, you can go. We're gonna start Olufashanu our

520
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 3: first round pick, and we're gonna try to be an exciting,

521
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 3: fun young team with cam Ward or should or Sanders

522
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 3: or whomever. Like, isn't that the obvious plan? Why would

523
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 3: the Jets want Aaron Rodgers back and you don't owe

524
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 3: him anything. It's been an unmitigated disaster, so I he

525
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 3: can want to come back all he wants, like that's

526
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Speaker 3: a player.

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Speaker 4: The question from a reporter of the media, the Jets

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00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 4: probably don't want him back, right, like it was like.

529
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Speaker 3: But everybody seems that the general I guess this is

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Speaker 3: why I send him I out to lunch. The general

531
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 3: impression that I get from the media is that covers

532
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Speaker 3: the team is this is Aaron's decision, meaning if he wants,

533
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 3: if he doesn't retire, he's the Jets quarterback next year.

534
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 3: And my response is him retiring has nothing to do

535
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 3: with the fact they've got to cut him, like he's

536
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 3: he's a bad, aging, injured, distracted player who has sucked

537
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 3: all of the life out of that building. And so

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00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 3: it cap wise, here's the deal next year, if he's

539
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 3: on the team, it's a twenty three million dollar cap hit,

540
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 3: and it's fifty million dead if he's not. But you

541
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Speaker 3: just you made that deal already. Like the way his

542
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 3: contract is currently set up is if he plays next year,

543
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 3: he's twenty three million on the cap, and then the

544
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 3: following year when he's out of the league. He's twenty

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Speaker 3: one million dead in twenty twenty six. If they make

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00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 3: him a post June one cut, he's fourteen million on

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Speaker 3: cap the following year. So by making him a post

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Speaker 3: June one cut, you save nine million cap dollars for

550
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Speaker 3: next season, and you lose twelve million cap dollars for

551
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 3: twenty or twenty six. But you just got to deal

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00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 3: with it like that's the move, and so I don't.

553
00:36:51,960 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 3: I am constantly surprised at how much of the media

554
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:11,840
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555
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 3: we've never gotten an answer about if he thought they

556
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:20,520
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00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,319
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00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,799
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559
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560
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,280
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561
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562
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 3: since you've been there, and the offense doesn't move like

563
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 3: I just think the Jets are gonna go five and twelve,

564
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 3: And to be like, let's run it back is baffling

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Speaker 3: All right, so demanse, let's recap my picks from last

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Speaker 3: week three and two, twenty five, twenty four and one

655
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Speaker 3: on the year. Cincinnati plus six against Baltimore on Thursday

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Speaker 3: Night Football. That was a weird one because it looked,

657
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 3: I mean, they were up twenty one to seven. I

658
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 3: looked like I was in great shape. Then all of

659
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 3: a sudden, with a minute left, they're down seven and

660
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 3: it's like, oh my god, I'm gonna lose this, and

661
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 3: then score the touchdown, go for two, lock in the bet.

662
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh plus three against Washington. That's another weird one. Pittsburgh

663
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 3: dominating that game and Washington can't move the ball at all.

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Speaker 3: Then they do the fake punt some other weird stuff.

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00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, Washington has a significant lead, but

666
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 3: a couple Russell Wilson moonballs later, Pittsburgh wins outright. Arizona

667
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 3: plus one against the Jets. That was the definition of

668
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Speaker 3: not a weird one. Arizona annihilated the Jets. That was

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Speaker 3: the dumbest line of the week, thirty one to six.

670
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 3: I think Detroit plus three and a half at Houston.

671
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 3: That would have been stealing if I had won that one.

672
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 3: Jared Goff threw five picks. But if Jake Bates doesn't

673
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 3: hit that field goal at the end and we're going overtime,

674
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 3: and I have a chance for Detroit to win by six,

675
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 3: but I deserve to lose it. And the Rams minus

676
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 3: one against Miami. Shout out to Miami's defense for showing

677
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 3: more fight than I thought it could. Anti shout out

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Speaker 3: Sean McVay. I love you McVeigh, but kicking a field

679
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 3: goal down eleven from the four yard line is just

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00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,479
Speaker 3: coaching malpractice. Six minutes left in that game.

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Speaker 2: Kick.

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00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 3: When you kick that field goal, what you're saying is

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Speaker 3: we're gonna make the field goal, get a stop, get

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Speaker 3: a score, get the two point conversion, win in overtime.

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Speaker 3: That's your path. That is your that's your path if

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Speaker 3: you go for it. What you're saying is, we're gonna

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Speaker 3: get these four yards, get a stop, get a touchdown,

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Speaker 3: win the game. So you need like a six way

689
00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 3: parlay to come through when you opt to kick that

690
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 3: field goal, all it does is delay your loss.

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00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 2: I get it.

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00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,479
Speaker 3: It's like, well, but if we get stopped on fourth down,

693
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:08,439
Speaker 3: we lose the game.

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Speaker 2: Got it.

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00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 3: But when you kick the field goal, what you are

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Speaker 3: saying you need the following to happen. You need to

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00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 3: get a stop, You need to go score a touchdown,

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00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 3: which you have evidently so little confidence you can do that.

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00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 3: You are kicking a field goal from the four yard line.

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00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 3: You then have to complete a two point conversion. You

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Speaker 3: then have to win the game in overtime. You need

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Speaker 3: all those things to happen. If you go for it. Yes,

703
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 3: if you don't get it, you lose. But if you

704
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 3: do get it, need two things to happen, you can

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Speaker 3: And by the way, if you go for it and

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Speaker 3: get it, you can still play the dumb two point

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Speaker 3: conversion overtime game because if you go for it and

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00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 3: get it, you're gonna go for two. If you get

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00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 3: the two point conversion, you're down three. Now you can

710
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 3: do field goal overtime if you want, and but a

711
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 3: touchdown wins you the game either way.

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Speaker 2: Just stupid, but regardless.

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Speaker 3: Last week, eleven of fourteen underdogs covered, which is funny

714
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 3: because two weeks ago, fourteen to the fifteen of the

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Speaker 3: favorites one straight up. All right, Deman's first pick, and

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Speaker 3: I know you like this one. I gotta think you

717
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 3: like this one.

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00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 2: Go ahead.

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00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, You've got Pittsburgh plus three.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Pittsburgh plus three at home against Baltimore. I mean

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Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin as a home dog, Mike Tomlin as a dog,

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Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin as a divisional dog. First of all, in

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Speaker 3: this series the last twenty years, the underdog twenty eight

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Speaker 3: and ten against the spread twenty eight, ten and three,

725
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 3: So three pushes. I mean, if you're all of these

726
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 3: games come down to a field goal, you're giving me

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00:46:53,480 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 3: a field goal. Tomlin as a dog is in fifteen

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00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:06,439
Speaker 3: straight up against Harball. Wait, hold on, he's been that camp.

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00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 3: He hasn't been an underdog thirty five times? Okay, yeah, sorry,

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00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 3: he's twenty and fifteen straight up as a dog. I

731
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Speaker 3: was gonna say he hasn't been an underdog thirty five

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Speaker 3: times against John Harbough.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 3: And and I think Pittsburgh absolutely can win this game outright.

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Speaker 3: We've talked about Tomlin as a dog overall sixty two,

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Speaker 3: thirty five and two. He doesn't cover big numbers, but

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Speaker 3: he absolutely as a dog, wins outright and covers the spread.

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Speaker 3: And so the fifteen of their last eighteen matchups have

739
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 3: been one score games. I think Pittsburgh can win, and

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00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 3: I think that the Steelers secondary is gonna have a

741
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 3: hard time covering George Pickens on those Russell moon balls.

742
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 3: I like the Pittsburgh special teams more. I like the

743
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh defense more. Obviously I like the Baltimore offense way more.

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00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 3: But this is I mean, this is a game TJ.

745
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 3: Watt's going to be flying around, and this is where

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00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 3: I remind everyone and I understand that we all must

747
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 3: kneel at the altar of Lamar Jackson. He's beaten the

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00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers once plays him twice a year, theoretically every year,

749
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 3: but he's missed a bunch of them. Lamar Jackson has

750
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Speaker 3: beaten the Pittsburgh Steelers as a starting quarterback one time

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Speaker 3: in his career, and I think that one game was

752
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 3: against Duck Hodges. So the Lamar wins eighty percent of

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00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 3: his games if you remove the games against the Chiefs,

754
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 3: the Steelers in playoff games, so the like against everyone else,

755
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 3: he's as good of a bet as there is. I

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00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 3: like the Steelers in this spot, and I and I

757
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 3: got I've got to think that the I've got to

758
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 3: think that this game comes down to the final possession.

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00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 3: So I'll take the plus three points. All right, Demons,

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00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 3: go ahead.

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Speaker 4: You've got New England plus four and a half versus

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Speaker 4: the Rams.

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Speaker 3: New England plus four and a half against Oh on,

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Speaker 3: real quick, before I even do that one, did you

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Speaker 3: not like my Steelers Ravens analysis?

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Speaker 4: No, it's just unfortunately it makes sense. Like I do

767
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 4: think Russ is gonna be able to light up the secondary.

768
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson's obviously going to do what he wants. But

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Speaker 4: I do think that the Ravens defense will be the

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Speaker 4: biggest hindrance. I think it's the biggest weakness of the game,

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Speaker 4: and I think it'll come back to bite them. I

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Speaker 4: do think the Ravens are gonna win, but I do

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Speaker 4: think it will be a close game. See him winning

774
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 4: by three, and I can also see them losing. Unfortunately,

775
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Speaker 4: I'm realistic.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, fair enough, all right, the Patriots in

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Speaker 3: the Rams. I've got the Patriots plus four and a half,

778
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 3: So obviously I don't think the Patriots are good and

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00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 3: You guys know, I like the Rams, so I would

780
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 3: understand why this pick seems silly. However, the Rams played

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Speaker 3: on Monday night. They are a West Coast team going

782
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 3: cross country. It is a one o'clock East coast start.

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00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 3: It is they are laying, you know, more than a

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Speaker 3: field goal. The Patriots are going to, you know, try

785
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:42,439
Speaker 3: to just at run Drake May run Remandre not let

786
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 3: this game, you know, get into the twenties. The Rams

787
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 3: defense has actually, to its credit, been good. The Rams

788
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 3: offense is what has struggled as of late. I just

789
00:50:53,600 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 3: think this is a ugly, boring, twenty to seventeen, seventeen

790
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 3: to fourteen, twenty one to seventeen type of game. I

791
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 3: think the Rams control the game, but I do not

792
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 3: think they run away with it. Four and a half

793
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 3: points is just too many points for a Rams team

794
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,280
Speaker 3: on a short week going West coast to East coast

795
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Speaker 3: for a one o'clock kickoff. Patriots feeling great right now,

796
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 3: coming off you know, their best defensive performance.

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Speaker 2: Of the year.

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Speaker 3: I don't love it. I will be honest. Four of

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Speaker 3: my five picks were easy. I'm not saying they're gonna

800
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 3: none of this is easy, but my point is four

801
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 3: of the five games, I instantly knew which what I wanted,

802
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 3: and I searched long and hard for a fifth. This

803
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 3: was the fifth I landed on. So I don't feel

804
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 3: great about it, but I feel like this is the sharp. Yeah,

805
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 3: this is the Sharp's side of this bet. I just

806
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 3: think the Rams haven't earned the right to lay more

807
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 3: than a field goal on the road against a team

808
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 3: that has shown a pulse, particularly going Monday to Sunday

809
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 3: at one o'clock. So I'll take the New England plus

810
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 3: four and a half.

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Speaker 4: Next thanks, you have Cleveland minus one at New Orleans.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, so the Saints goot hear me out here,

813
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Speaker 3: Demansey because Demonsey doesn't like this one. The Saints got

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Speaker 3: the fired coach bounce.

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Speaker 2: They hated Dennis Allen. He got out of there. They

816
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Speaker 2: get the win.

817
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 3: If you watch that game at Atlanta, it had a

818
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 3: lot of opportunities to win that football game and blew

819
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 3: it and Coop had a tough game. Cleveland, coming off

820
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Speaker 3: a bye, had shown signs of.

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Speaker 2: Life with Jamis.

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Speaker 3: I do not think New Orleans offensive line is going

823
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 3: to it is gonna be able to handle the Brown's

824
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 3: defensive front front especially Miles Garrett looking better and playing

825
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Speaker 3: better the pre buy after being not great at dealing

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Speaker 3: with some injuries earlier.

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Speaker 2: So you have.

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Speaker 3: Cleveland off of By, you have a Saints team that

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Speaker 3: I think is truly bad, not gonna have Chris Olave,

830
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Speaker 3: no one on the outside to really threaten you down

831
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Speaker 3: the field at all, Derek Carr having, you know, getting

832
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Speaker 3: skittish in the pocket thanks to Miles Garrett, and a

833
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Speaker 3: Cleveland team that since they made the change to Jamis

834
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Speaker 3: Winston or you know, since the win did what's the

835
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 3: game Deshaun got hurt? Did Deshaun get hurt in the y?

836
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Speaker 3: He got hurt? Deshaun got hurt in the Bengals game,

837
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Speaker 3: and they went to Dorian Thompson Robinson and then to

838
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 3: Jamis in They Cleveland beat Baltimore and then played poorly

839
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Speaker 3: against the Chargers. I don't believe New Orleans is gonna

840
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Speaker 3: have the level of energy they had last week, and

841
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Speaker 3: I think Cleveland's better than them. I'm just picking a

842
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Speaker 3: winner here and post by Cleveland's the healthiest they've been

843
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Speaker 3: all year. Stefanski three to one in this career off

844
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 3: of Bye and the Saints since the last six years

845
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 3: they're one of the worst teams in the league against

846
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Speaker 3: the spread, at home, all those things. I like Cleveland

847
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 3: win this game. I'm only laying a point. This is

848
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Speaker 3: a game. I'll be honest. I don't plan to watch

849
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Speaker 3: if I can help it, I won't watch a second

850
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Speaker 3: of this game. But I like Cleveland minus one at

851
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 3: New Orleans next, all.

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00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 4: Right, So thank she got Atlanta plus two and a

853
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 4: half at Denver.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't This is a weird one because

855
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 3: Atlanta can't get up pass rush at all. So you

856
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 3: do feel like bo Nicks is gonna be able to

857
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Speaker 3: move the ball a bit. And Denver's defense, obviously is excellent.

858
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 3: It's been excellent all year. However, Atlanta has won. Going

859
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Speaker 3: into this past week against New Orleans, had won five

860
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Speaker 3: of six. Offense had been explosive. The Saints game, again,

861
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 3: as I mentioned, I think they blew it. The Saints

862
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 3: got that, you know, had the energy of getting rid

863
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Speaker 3: of Dennis Allen, but Atlanta still had plenty of chances there.

864
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Speaker 3: I think Atlanta is a good team. I think at

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Speaker 3: Denver is the best of the bad teams, but Atlanta's

866
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:48,720
Speaker 3: actually a good team. And Atlanta bounce back spot Denver.

867
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 3: I think the there is a real psychological aftershock of

868
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 3: the way they lost to the Chiefs, and I was

869
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,720
Speaker 3: not in pressed by the Denver offense. I was impressed

870
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 3: by the Denver defense. And I know people want me

871
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 3: to give Bo Nicks more credit. I just think he's

872
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 3: been fine. But Atlanta getting two and a half points

873
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 3: in a game that feels like is a coin flip

874
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 3: game and absolutely could be, you know, a down one

875
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 3: field goal at the gun type of game for either team,

876
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 3: like a lot of these Atlanta games are, is the

877
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 3: right side of it. Atlanta also is in a position

878
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:38,280
Speaker 3: where they they are in a good position in the division.

879
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 3: But Tampa's schedule the rest of the way is the

880
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 3: worst in football. Tampa the rest of the way Giants, Panthers, Raiders, Chargers, Cowboys, Panthers, Saints.

881
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 3: So Tampa, aside from the Chargers game, plays six games

882
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 3: against the worst teams.

883
00:56:58,440 --> 00:56:59,240
Speaker 2: In the NFL.

884
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 3: So Atlanta knows, even though they have a cushion in

885
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 3: that division, Tampa's gonna start stacking wins. I like it

886
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 3: Lanta to win this game. I certainly like him plus

887
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 3: two and a half. And that's the fourth pick and

888
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,720
Speaker 3: the fifth one is going to be pretty obvious given

889
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 3: what we discussed at the top of the show.

890
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, you've got a Kins City plus two and a

891
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 4: half against Buffalo.

892
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean so. Mahomes has been an underdog fourteen

893
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 3: times in his career. He's eleven and three twelve one

894
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 3: and one against the spread. The three losses are the following.

895
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 3: Twenty eighteen against New England. That game at the two

896
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 3: minute warning was forty to forty. New England hits a

897
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 3: field goal at the gun.

898
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 2: To beat them.

899
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 3: Twenty eighteen, the famous Monday Night football game against the Rams.

900
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 3: That game at the two minute warning was fifty one

901
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 3: forty seven Kansas City and the Rams score a touchdown

902
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 3: with a minute left to win. And twenty twenty two

903
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 3: against Buffalo. That game at the two minute warning was

904
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 3: twenty to seventeen Chiefs and Buffalo scored a touchdown in

905
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 3: the waning moments to win the game. Point is this,

906
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 3: fourteen times Patrick Mahomes has been an underdog. Eleven times

907
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 3: he has won outright. The other three he has either

908
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 3: been tied or leading with two minutes left. It is

909
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 3: just an absurdity to go against Mahomes in this spot.

910
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 3: And here is the really remarkable thing about this, Demanse.

911
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 3: This will be the fifth time Mahomes and the Chiefs

912
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 3: have been underdogs since they last lost a game. They

913
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 3: last lost a game on Christmas Day. They were underdogs

914
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 3: in the Divisional Round against Buffalo, in the Championship game

915
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 3: against Baltimore, in the Super Bowl against the Niners a

916
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 3: few weeks ago against the Niners, and now against Buffalo.

917
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 3: So they don't lose but a third of the time.

918
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:17,919
Speaker 3: Vegas thinks they will all take the Chiefs plus two

919
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 3: and a half and.

920
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 2: I'll feel really good about it.

921
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 3: So our five picks this week are as follows, Pittsburgh

922
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 3: getting three at home against Baltimore, New England getting four

923
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 3: and a half at home against the Rams, Cleveland laying

924
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 3: one on the road at New Orleans, Atlanta getting two

925
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 3: and a half at Denver, and Kansas City getting two

926
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 3: and a half at Buffalo. Now for the main event,

927
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 3: Demonse's teaser, having won six of seven, just Red Hot

928
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 3: last week hit his first three teamer new I mean

929
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 3: you deserve it. You hit a three teamer and not

930
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 3: only did you hit it, Demanse have won as a

931
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 3: parlay you got you bought all these points you didn't

932
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 3: need them. You had Cincinnati teased up to plus thirteen.

933
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 3: They covered the six, Pittsburgh teased up to plus ten,

934
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 3: they covered the three, Tampa Bay teased up to plus thirteen,

935
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 3: they covered the six. That is what we call an

936
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 3: a plus teaser. What are you going with this week?

937
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 1: Uh?

938
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 4: This week, we've got a two teams seven and a

939
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 4: half point teaser minus one sixty three. So the obvious

940
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 4: Kansas City, we're teasing them up to ten and then

941
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh up to ten and a half versus Baltimore. So

942
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 4: that that's the teaser we're going with.

943
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 3: And then we have a supermoval one of the super teaser,

944
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh.

945
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 2: Even though I like Pittsburgh plus three.

946
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 4: It me your picture in here. I just teased them.

947
01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, but even though I like Pittsburgh plus three, I

948
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 3: oddly don't love them as a teaser, leg only because

949
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 3: Baltimore has shown the ability to blow people out and

950
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 3: so like the I'm always a little afraid of teasing

951
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 3: against Baltimore because at times they just dog walk you.

952
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 2: But all right, so that's your teaser. I'll give that

953
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 2: a minus.

954
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 3: Uh.

955
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 2: The but you said you have something else as well.

956
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we've we've got a super teaser for week

957
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 4: eleven for those that like live dangerously. We've got a

958
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 4: fourteen seven and a half point teaser at plus one

959
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 4: seventy and.

960
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 2: It's the same.

961
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 4: We're gonna keep Kansas City and Pittsburgh in there, but

962
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 4: we're gonna add Jacksonville plus twenty one against Detroit and

963
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 4: then Seattle plus fourteen at San Francisco. Yeah, listen, I

964
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 4: don't like this one.

965
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 2: I don't like this one.

966
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 4: This one doesn't count against my record. This is just

967
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 4: a uh, this is a fun one. The one, the

968
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 4: one that you guys count me on is the first

969
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 4: one that's fine.

970
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I just the mac Jones Mac Jones.

971
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like Detroit could score twenty four

972
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 3: and cover the twenty one that they'd be laying in

973
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 3: this scenario. And the Seattle it's just consistently has a

974
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 3: lot of trouble with Shanahan's.

975
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 2: Niners, Sam Franners moving the ball on them. Uh.

976
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 4: I thought you were just seeing like the Niners are

977
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 4: aggressing a little bit. Though, even even with you.

978
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 2: No that I agree with you entirely.

979
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 3: I thought you were gonna have uh, the Texans teas

980
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 3: down to a pick them against Dallas and Cooper.

981
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:51,959
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and that's fair. The yeah, to not get

982
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 4: exploited like the other team. I don't think Baltimore.

983
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 2: They do.

984
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 4: They show the ability to bow teams out, but I

985
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 4: can't see them doing that to the Steelers. I think

986
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 4: they've got something real going on over there. And it's

987
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 4: divisial that ye.

988
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 3: No, that's I obviously like it because I've got him

989
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 3: plus the three. It just makes me nervous as he'ser like,

990
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 3: all right, what's the offer this week?

991
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 4: Uh So, we are heading into the NBA Cup this week,

992
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 4: and we're picking a couple of group winners, So New

993
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 4: York not New York'll go Nick's Cleveland, okay, see to

994
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 4: win their groups is a plus seven hundred and yeah.

995
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 2: Do you have any I don't.

996
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 3: Actually, I'll be honest with you. I don't have any

997
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 3: NBA Cup predictions. I will I'm gonna do a different

998
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 3: offer this week, the which is not NBA Cup related.

999
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 3: Travis Kelcey anytime touchdown he scored last week, he could

1000
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 3: have scored twice. He the he's you know, the bane

1001
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 3: of the Bills. Existence. I like a Kelsey anytime touchdown.

1002
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 3: I assume that's probably like plus one thirty would be

1003
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 3: my guest. The producers can tell me in my ear,

1004
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 3: that's the offer that I'm presenting to the audience. I

1005
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 3: don't really do player props, but that's the one I'll do.

1006
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 3: All right, quick plus one forty, So it's about what

1007
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 3: I thought.

1008
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 2: Quick break.

1009
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 3: Answer some listener questions. Next, what's right? All right, welcome

1010
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 3: back in What's right?

1011
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 2: We think? Right, Demanda, let's answer some listener questions.

1012
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 4: AJ Figs is, well, the Chiefs try to go seventeen

1013
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 4: and oh where they start Carson Wentz for Christmas?

1014
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 3: I hope they start Carson Wentz on Christmas? And you

1015
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 3: still try to go seventeen. Oh, try to win that game.

1016
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 3: But I you're playing one pm on a Wednesday. If

1017
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 3: you're fifteen to oh to chase the record is not

1018
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 3: worth it when you're going for a three peat in

1019
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 3: my opinion.

1020
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 4: Next, Danny Tanner, do you think the cart Oh? Wait, no,

1021
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 4: not Danny Tanner? Hordon GMR is this seven and four?

1022
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 4: Lakers start? Vilebar? Is it fools? Gold? Lebron keep up

1023
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 4: this pace?

1024
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 2: I mean Lebron's playing unbelievable. It's a little fool's gold

1025
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 2: in that. I just don't.

1026
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 3: I think they have some of the worst depth of

1027
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 3: any team that's trying to be a real team. I mean,

1028
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 3: the Gay vincent Is just can't play. They're playing Coloco.

1029
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 3: The Jackson Hayes got hurt, and that's like a big

1030
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 3: loss for them. He's barely an NBA rotation guy. But

1031
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 3: Lebron and ad have been unbelievable.

1032
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 2: All right.

1033
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 4: Next now, Danny Tanner, do you think the Cardinals could

1034
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 4: be a sleeper team in the NFC? Uh?

1035
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually do, and I said it earlier this week.

1036
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 2: We'll say it again.

1037
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 3: I think that they're gonna be in that divisional race

1038
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 3: the rest of the year. I think Week eighteen is

1039
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 3: gonna be Cardinals Niners Sunday Night football with the division

1040
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 3: on the line.

1041
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 4: Next Alex Perdrovik for Petrovic vitz Nick. A lot of

1042
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 4: people are out on the Texans. They already beat the

1043
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 4: Bills and should have beaten the Lions with the healthy Nico.

1044
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 4: Could you see them having a twenty twenty one Bengals

1045
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 4: type run.

1046
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 3: I don't think they're gonna have a twenty twenty one

1047
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 3: Bengals get all the way to the Super Bowl type

1048
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:11,919
Speaker 3: of run. But I do think Nico Collins coming back

1049
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 3: is gonna make the offense look a hell of a

1050
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 3: lot better. And when Joe Mixon is healthy and Nico

1051
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 3: Collins is healthy, that offense is elite and you and

1052
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 3: so I think people maybe are a little too down

1053
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 3: on Houston right now. I just think they're I think

1054
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 3: they're a B plus. I don't think they're an A

1055
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 3: level team. I think they're a B plus. And I

1056
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 3: think that's solid, Like you're just building something there next.

1057
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 4: Adam Dell guides Geez the names today, I'm sorry, guys,

1058
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 4: yea names. Would you rather be a Super Bowl winning

1059
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 4: quarterback who is average like Flacco, Brad Johnson, Jeff has

1060
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 4: hostas hostetler or at all time hostetler, Yeah, or an

1061
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 4: all time great quarterback who never want a ring like

1062
01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 4: Mike like Marino or Jim Kelly.

1063
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 2: I mean, to me, that's no question.

1064
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 3: You'd rather be an all time great like I mean,

1065
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 3: Dan Marino is one of the greatest players in the

1066
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 3: history of the league. You don't like Brad Johnson is

1067
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 3: just a guy who was.

1068
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 2: On the Bucks when they won the Super Bowl.

1069
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 3: So like that is like, to me, it's more like

1070
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 3: the more interesting question is would you rather be to

1071
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 3: go to the NBA like Charles Barkley, one of the

1072
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 3: greatest players ever.

1073
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 2: But who never won a championship?

1074
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 3: Or Clay Thompson, you know, a Hall of Famer but

1075
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 3: not all all timer, but you have a handful of championships.

1076
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 3: That's a real question, you know what I mean? Like that,

1077
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 3: to me, there's a real pro and con to that.

1078
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 3: But being just a guy that happened to win a

1079
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 3: Super Bowl versus being a Hall of Famer all time

1080
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 3: legend is to me, it's not.

1081
01:07:55,760 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 4: Even Thompson or Charles Barkley, obous see it's Charles s Maarkley.

1082
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 4: But it's like, but that's the question I feel.

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Speaker 2: Like, right right, that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: That's a real debate, and so the like, would you

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Speaker 3: let me think of another NFL.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's an off season discussion.

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Speaker 3: But like, to me, just being a guy who happened

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Speaker 3: to be on a team to win the Super Bowls

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Speaker 3: not nearly the same. Jammer is one of the ten

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Speaker 3: greatest quarterbacks of all time. All right, great job today,

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