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Speaker 1: to the newest edition of the Giant Subtle Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: John Schmilk. Today I'm gonna be joined by three Giants safeties,

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Speaker 1: second year Safety Davier McKinney, last year's Big Free Agent edition,

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Speaker 1: Logan Ryan, and Jabro Peppers. But first to remind you,

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Speaker 1: get to it. Let's start off with jabro Peppers. He

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Speaker 1: has the longest tenured Giant of this group, and he

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Speaker 1: talked about heading into Patrick Graham system in year number two.

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Speaker 1: And now we're joined by Giants Safety, Jabrol Peppers, Pat

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Speaker 1: Man how White. It's good to see you, ma'am. Good,

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Speaker 1: we're doing great. All right, let's let's talk about it here.

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Speaker 1: This is you know, you're heading into the second year

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Speaker 1: now under Patrick Graham. What kind of steps do you

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Speaker 1: think fans can think about seeing from your guys as

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Speaker 1: a group that you've been in the system now for

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Speaker 1: a second straight year. Well, I think that you know,

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Speaker 1: the comfortability, Um, you know, guys playing better together because

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Speaker 1: now we know how certain guys play with their best

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Speaker 1: positions are um, you know, and just hope to build

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Speaker 1: on a continuity. Man. You know, like you said, it's

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Speaker 1: a year in the system, you know, so we're more

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Speaker 1: familiar with this. More things we can do now, um.

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Speaker 1: But you know PGS defense is always gonna be you know,

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Speaker 1: excited multiple um, So I think the fans can expect

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Speaker 1: a lot more of that. See it's funny. Now I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna ask you almost like the opposite question, because I

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Speaker 1: think the first one is valuable. This one is too.

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Speaker 1: This damn thing changes so much with you week. How

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Speaker 1: much carry over is there really based because your opponents

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Speaker 1: are going to be a little bit different. Yes, the

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Speaker 1: schematics change the week the week, but you know the foundations,

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Speaker 1: think that's the fun part of it, because you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't think teams can really get a beat on

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Speaker 1: to us it might be minor tweaks. But on film,

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Speaker 1: you know, it definitely looks like, you know, uh, completely

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Speaker 1: The guys here have been doing a good job with that, man.

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Speaker 1: So I don't think that's gonna bad issue. When you

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Speaker 1: talk about the foundation, without giving away any state secrets,

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Speaker 1: what is the foundation? Is it just playing the right

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Speaker 1: technique based on the position that you're playing in the defense?

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Speaker 1: When you say the foundation stays the same, what's the foundation?

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Speaker 1: I guess without giving away too much, you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: being great football position and condition. Um, you know I

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Speaker 1: you know that's yeah, that's really all on that and

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Speaker 1: all right. You talk about learning what position, guys you

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Speaker 1: Logan was a corner, so we can obviously play the slot.

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Speaker 1: Your ability to move around, how does that lend towards

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Speaker 1: So now as you head into this year, now, what

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Speaker 1: know we're excited about it. One specific scheme thing, last

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Speaker 1: showing that to sell you know that that presents problems

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Speaker 1: because there's so many things we can do from there,

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Speaker 1: and especially if we're really good on our disguise and

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Speaker 1: that will make reads on the quarterback a lot harder.

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Speaker 1: And I think we saw that on the field last year.

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Speaker 1: We look forward to seeing it again. Good stuff. That's

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to our next guest. He is

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Speaker 1: Logan Ryan. He was acquired by the Giants at the

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Speaker 1: end of training camp lash year. He played mostly safety

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Speaker 1: Logan about signing that contract extension with the Giants and

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Speaker 1: we're joined by Gihants defensive back Logan Ryan Logan. First

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Speaker 1: of all, it's good to see you in person. Man.

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Speaker 1: How are you? Oh Man, I'm great, doing great. Um.

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Speaker 1: I love this time of year, everyone getting back together

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Speaker 1: and getting back to its I'm excited. We've even spoken.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations on the long term contract. By the way, happy

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Speaker 1: foundational piece for the Giants here moving forward? Easy question, Man,

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Speaker 1: This is where I'm from. This is I didn't grow

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Speaker 1: and raised, an opportunity to play home and with this organization,

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Speaker 1: the people here and the pieces we have, I wanted

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Speaker 1: to be a part of it. In year number two,

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Speaker 1: I expect great things. I expect great things for myself.

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Speaker 1: I think people gotta understand that last year is my

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have so big things. Big things are ahead.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. What did you work on this

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Speaker 1: offseason to to make that full time shift over to safety.

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Speaker 1: I reached out to a lot of great safeties. I

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Speaker 1: of former Giants um Jason C. Horn On tro Roll

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Speaker 1: what it means to be a great safety for the Giants,

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Speaker 1: I take it really, uh. I take a lot of

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Speaker 1: And it seems to me that the versatility of the

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Speaker 1: Where every one of you guys can do different things.

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Speaker 1: You can reduce into the slot, so can X. You

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Speaker 1: he could be a time defensive back. Julian Love was

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Speaker 1: playing outside quarterback in Week seventeen. He can play safety.

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Speaker 1: Can you just talk a little bit about from a

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Speaker 1: so many different things allows you to run that type

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Speaker 1: different plays. You appreciate the time. My friends appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: We thank Davian McKinney. We thank you bro Peppers. We

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Speaker 1: thank Logan Ryan for joining us on this episode of

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Speaker 1: The more subscribers we have, the better off we are,

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Speaker 1: because more people are listening for our group of safeties.

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Speaker 1: I'm John Schmilk. Thanks for joining us on the Giant Huddle.

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Speaker 1: We will see you next time. Everybody,