Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Katty Armstrong and Decades and Key
Speaker 2: Arms yet blid lifeline from.
Speaker 1: Studio See Say see cs in York, a dimly lit
Speaker 1: room deeper than the bowels of the Armstrong and Getty
Speaker 1: Communications Compound.
Speaker 2: Our trade is open, and today we are toiling under
Speaker 2: the title of the show.
Speaker 3: Teachers unions, past drug dealers in Damaging Kids. Wow or wait,
Speaker 3: just wait, that's second headline A bit mysterious.
Speaker 2: I can see. I've spent the day reading.
Speaker 3: Various accounts and assessment of how the war with Iran
Speaker 3: is going, and I've become acutely aware. And Jack, I'm
Speaker 3: sure you've noticed this too. Everybody must every single day
Speaker 3: predict how this ends and whether it's succeeded or failed.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like the bottom of the second inning
Speaker 3: of a baseball game, and it's no failure. This team's lost.
Speaker 3: Get this game is over or this game this is
Speaker 3: a glorious win for this team.
Speaker 2: Glory, Oh my god, just.
Speaker 1: Wait yeah, and then a grand scheme of things were
Speaker 1: what six weeks It's a it's a blip.
Speaker 2: Of history.
Speaker 3: So when was the last time you heard somebody say
Speaker 3: something like, you know, there are certainly some challenges right now,
Speaker 3: but you've got to expect that it remains to be
Speaker 3: seen how this works out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we seem to make a living doing this.
Speaker 1: But if somebody on a cable news channel they go
Speaker 1: around the panel and anybody ever said, you know, it's
Speaker 1: too early to tell, who knows?
Speaker 2: Would they just signs some bad signs? Would they just
Speaker 2: send you home? I suppose they would.
Speaker 3: They would probably say, Jim, thanks for a year service
Speaker 3: on the panel. But we've decided to go in different direction.
Speaker 1: My favorite thing of the last twenty four hours we
Speaker 1: talked about this some yesterday, is the whole Trump battle
Speaker 1: and the Pope.
Speaker 2: The atheist media, who doesn't care about religion at all
Speaker 2: and particularly.
Speaker 1: Hates the Pope and Catholicism, all of a sudden, is
Speaker 1: so concerned about the Pope's feelings.
Speaker 2: Oh my lord, a president is disrespected Pope.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump says he will not apologize to the Pope.
Speaker 1: You don't you don't like anybody who's religious. Who are
Speaker 1: you trying the kid?
Speaker 2: We're going live now to Janine Smith, the only Catholic.
Speaker 3: We could find in the entire parent company that owns
Speaker 3: this network for a comment.
Speaker 2: Janine, all of a sudden, they're really really worried about that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's so funny, the.
Speaker 1: Trump posting of him as Jesus healing people. Gotta admit
Speaker 1: that's an interesting story.
Speaker 2: Man. It is the President States putting out that. Make sure.
Speaker 3: I think it's another example of the media just completely
Speaker 3: misinterpreting it. And it's not in a way that's terribly
Speaker 3: charitable to Trump. I'm not a trumpy on this one,
Speaker 3: but what.
Speaker 1: Do you think it What do you think they're misinterpreting well,
Speaker 1: that he was trying to pass himself off as a
Speaker 1: christ Finger, and I agree with us of yesterday.
Speaker 2: Trump is such an atheist.
Speaker 3: He has no idea that that iconography is christ. He
Speaker 3: just thought, oh, it was like a doctor healing a
Speaker 3: guy or something. He's completely unfamiliar with virtually anything to
Speaker 3: do with Christianity. He might struggle to come up with Jesus'
Speaker 3: last name. Okay, that's why he put that out. It
Speaker 3: wasn't you know he was passing himself off as Jesus.
Speaker 2: That he didn't even know. I just listen on a
Speaker 2: different topic.
Speaker 1: I was just looking up at a map of the
Speaker 1: Strait of Horror Moves, which are there ain't a lot
Speaker 1: of ships going through because of the blockade and whatnot.
Speaker 1: I just listened to a former Secretary of Defense say
Speaker 1: it is he's a major tenant of the world order
Speaker 1: for quite a few years, that shipping lanes need to
Speaker 1: be open. Europe should be helping the United States keep
Speaker 1: this straight open, regardless of anything else.
Speaker 2: And that sounds pretty right, I would agree.
Speaker 3: And while resentment of Trump might legitimately cause them to
Speaker 3: make a strong statement or drag their feet for a
Speaker 3: little bit, to make a point to just not help
Speaker 3: at all is bizarre.
Speaker 2: What it is is they can't.
Speaker 3: They really lack the ability to project power, and so
Speaker 3: they're hiding behind their dislike of Trump and the way
Speaker 3: he went about to this conflict. And you know, it's
Speaker 3: not like they have no point. But again, it's a
Speaker 3: helpful excuse.
Speaker 1: The peace negotiations between and are in the United States,
Speaker 1: which I was pretty skeptical that they even existed yesterday
Speaker 1: apparently going on because everybody's reporting today that you don't
Speaker 1: get to enrich you uranium. Iran saying they'll agree to
Speaker 1: five years and we're saying, you got, it's got to
Speaker 1: be twenty is the latest. But at least that's a negotiation.
Speaker 1: You know, you come up with a number in between,
Speaker 1: and maybe we could live with that for a while.
Speaker 3: And I should have asked for this crew, and that's
Speaker 3: on me. But Jadie Vance talked to Brett Bear last
Speaker 3: night on Special Report and made it clear that, yeah,
Speaker 3: we walked out of the negotiations kind of, but it
Speaker 3: was it was when it became clear that the delegation
Speaker 3: there didn't have the authority to come to a deal.
Speaker 3: They needed to go back to Tehran and consult with
Speaker 3: their bosses before we moved forward. So yeah, we called
Speaker 3: it off and they went back to Tehran. Now we're
Speaker 3: going to make more progress. And you know, JD is
Speaker 3: a skilled spinner. So I don't know how seriously to
Speaker 3: take that description, but it seems perfectly reasonable to me.
Speaker 3: That happens in negotiations all the time, which is why
Speaker 3: you always want to make sure you're talking to the
Speaker 3: guy who can make a deal, otherwise you're wasting your
Speaker 3: time spinning your wheels.
Speaker 2: But it's plausible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting, would that be a win if we agreed to.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's between five and fifteen that would
Speaker 1: be agreed to. Eight, Say it's eight would be we
Speaker 1: consider that a win.
Speaker 2: Well, we're asking for twenty, so I deserve. I demand
Speaker 2: at least twelve and a half.
Speaker 1: Of course, as with the JCPOA, which was the Obama thing,
Speaker 1: it's all about the inspections and whether or not you
Speaker 1: can have anywhere, anytime inspections.
Speaker 2: And they didn't agree to that under.
Speaker 1: The JCPO if you can't show up anytime you want,
Speaker 1: anywhere you want and inspect for you know, you building
Speaker 1: a nuclear weapon, it ain't no good.
Speaker 2: You're read in my mind.
Speaker 3: I was about to say, the agreement could be for
Speaker 3: two minutes or seven hundred years, and it just doesn't
Speaker 3: matter unless there's a verification regime in place.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: We got a lot more on that. Start the official show, Now,
Speaker 1: how about we do that. I'm Jack Armstrong, He's Joe
Speaker 1: Getty on this. It is Tuesday, April fourteenth, year, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty six. Where Armstrong and getting we approved of this program.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, here we go.
Speaker 3: Then officially, according to FCC rules and regulations, the show
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Speaker 2: I'm Chris buckin.
Speaker 4: I'm about to drink the first vaccine beer the world
Speaker 4: has ever seen.
Speaker 2: I made this beer in my home.
Speaker 4: Lab set up, and I'm hoping that eventually it will
Speaker 4: be able to protect transplant patients against a horrible virus
Speaker 4: called polyomavirus.
Speaker 2: And I'm just gonna have the first claff.
Speaker 1: Essentially to prove safety, at least in myself.
Speaker 2: In an end of one self experiment, delightful vaccine beer?
Speaker 3: Can we come up with maybe anti beerotics or beer's
Speaker 3: control pills? I mean, where why stop now? Beer vitamins?
Speaker 2: Yes, what would that be? I'll have to work on
Speaker 2: that one. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't understand why the vaccine needs to be in beer.
Speaker 1: What's a the.
Speaker 2: Well? People don't want to get jabbed. I understand that.
Speaker 1: But if you can drink the vaccine and work, you
Speaker 1: would usually start with just a liquid you can drink,
Speaker 1: like a lot of medicine is like a coke or water,
Speaker 1: or just a juice, just any liquid you consume so
Speaker 1: you get the vaccine. Why it has to be an intoxicant,
Speaker 1: I'm not exactly sure. Vaccine jump a juice exactly? Yeah,
Speaker 1: there are many options that aren't could get you drunk.
Speaker 2: If you wanted to. I guess you got a point.
Speaker 2: Is this an odd place to fine?
Speaker 3: Tinker Bell, give me one of those beers, the vaccine beers.
Speaker 1: I how much sleep did I get last night? Because
Speaker 1: I was uplate at the Springsteen concert, then had to
Speaker 1: drive back from San Francisco, so I went to bed
Speaker 1: at one thirty.
Speaker 2: I think, Uh.
Speaker 1: I told my kids, this is real. This is a
Speaker 1: real test of your maturity. Toughing it out something you
Speaker 1: got to do in life. Stay up a little late,
Speaker 1: tough it out, manage on a little sleep. See if
Speaker 1: you can do it.
Speaker 2: Excellent pep talk.
Speaker 1: We'll see how that goes. All of us in the
Speaker 1: car driving home, Mark ears ringing. Been a long time
Speaker 1: since I'd been to a really big, loud, long rock concert,
Speaker 1: mini years. I'd forgotten that feeling of you get in
Speaker 1: your car and realize how deaf you are.
Speaker 2: Yes the washy ring yes, yes, and you can wear
Speaker 2: plugs for you.
Speaker 1: I did not wear plugs. Now, I didn't expect it
Speaker 1: to be that loud. It was quite loud.
Speaker 2: My very responsible son wears air plugs. But that's the
Speaker 2: way he had of everything.
Speaker 3: Well, you forgot to task basketball Arina Baseball Stadium, concert
Speaker 3: hall where the Golden State Warriors player believe the Chase
Speaker 3: Center and there was not an empty seat and nobody
Speaker 3: sat the entire concert.
Speaker 2: But I'll talk more about that later.
Speaker 1: We got headlines on the way and lots of news
Speaker 1: to get to stay with us. A lot of Hokahs
Speaker 1: in the crowd at the Springsteen concert, a lot of Hocus,
Speaker 1: A lot of comfortable grown up footwear.
Speaker 2: On cloud very very hot too.
Speaker 3: That's my branded choice, mostly Hocus, Yes, yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: so much to get to.
Speaker 2: Why don't we get to it.
Speaker 3: Let's figure out who's reporting what it's the leak story
Speaker 3: with Katie Green Katie.
Speaker 4: Already, let's start with the alphabet networks. ABC US proposes
Speaker 4: twenty year minimum suspension on iranium uranium enrichment CNN USI's
Speaker 4: potential second round of talks with Iran as blockade takes
Speaker 4: hold an NBC China says Trump blockade is quote dangerous
Speaker 4: as Iran linked ships transit the Straits of Ormuz.
Speaker 1: I don't know why Iran wouldn't just agree to again
Speaker 1: and then cheat.
Speaker 2: That's what they've always done.
Speaker 1: I don't I haven't heard anybody explain that because that's
Speaker 1: what they've always done, wild with sudden, really saying.
Speaker 2: Out loud, acting like their word is their bond.
Speaker 3: I wonder if Trump and Cump have made it clear
Speaker 3: that there is going to be a serious, serious inspection
Speaker 3: regime and the high jinks of the past are a
Speaker 3: no go and if you even try it will bomb.
Speaker 2: But Jesus is out you again.
Speaker 3: It's still I'm sorry. I was listening to myself as
Speaker 3: I spoke. I would still do what you suggested. So yeah,
Speaker 3: we get it, we get it, okay, okay, and then
Speaker 3: day by day say hey, that that was too much.
Speaker 2: You got to push back a little bit and just
Speaker 2: work it like they always have.
Speaker 1: If you you probably don't remember this. The way Iran
Speaker 1: got around the inspections with the JCPO that OA, that
Speaker 1: was Obama's agreement with Ran. I have to talk about
Speaker 1: that later because I didn't remember the details. It's really
Speaker 1: quite amazing that we let Iran get away with it.
Speaker 1: Let's just to shorten it, call it the no Bama agreement. No,
Speaker 1: all right, I liked it, Joe, thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: From the New York Times, Van says Pope should stay
Speaker 4: out of US.
Speaker 1: Affairs, but Pope lap. I agree with the pope. Shut up,
Speaker 1: just shut up. Can you say shut up to.
Speaker 2: A pope or you probably not supposed to say that
Speaker 2: you can.
Speaker 1: I would listen to you talk about the Bible in
Speaker 1: Jesus all day long, wrapped with attention, mister pope.
Speaker 2: He started getting into foreign policy. I just have no
Speaker 2: time for you.
Speaker 3: Or if you want to say, of course, you know,
Speaker 3: people who walk with Christ.
Speaker 2: Yearn for peace, we hope peace is restored. That's own.
Speaker 2: It's perfectly fine. In general, you prefer peace to war.
Speaker 2: I get it right.
Speaker 4: From the Wall Street Journal, how an image depicting Trump
Speaker 4: as Christ sparked backlash on the religious right.
Speaker 2: He's beefing with Riley Gaines.
Speaker 1: Now. I was told that even people that generally support
Speaker 1: everything Trump does didn't like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the list of folks who spoke out in that
Speaker 3: journal article was long and impressive.
Speaker 2: On the other hand, I don't think anybody.
Speaker 3: Will be talking about this in a week or tomorrow,
Speaker 3: which is I'm sorry, I'm bad at this job.
Speaker 2: You gotta have a hot take.
Speaker 3: You gotta pretend that every single thing that happens is
Speaker 3: the most important thing that's ever happened, and you're personally
Speaker 3: outraged by it one way or the other.
Speaker 2: Flip a coin.
Speaker 1: What's a hell of a nutty thing to do? Ohe
Speaker 1: to Liberty and bald.
Speaker 4: Eagles from USA Today, Eric Swallwell's exit helps Democrats in
Speaker 4: California governor's race.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's why it happened. He's been this guy. All
Speaker 1: these things happened many years ago. Everybody knew it. It
Speaker 1: happened to get him out.
Speaker 2: Of the race.
Speaker 1: How does everybody not understand what is going on here?
Speaker 2: It's so dopey.
Speaker 3: My favorite comment was from Brit Hume, who said, I'll
Speaker 3: give this to the Democrats when they need to get
Speaker 3: somebody out of the way. They are disciplined and they
Speaker 3: do it. Yeah, Bernie, Hillary Biden now swallowell knife right
Speaker 3: in the back.
Speaker 4: From the New York Post, Meta is building a creepy
Speaker 4: AI clone of Mark Zuckerberg, who chats with staff.
Speaker 2: The chinnl is creepy. The real deal is creepy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: all right. Here's a fun one from the Washington Post.
Speaker 4: World's oldest gorilla, known for her quote dignified manner, turns
Speaker 4: sixty nine.
Speaker 3: When you threw her poohs with her pinky in the air,
Speaker 3: very dignified.
Speaker 4: Here's sixty nine sixty nine. Now here's the story. Legend
Speaker 4: has it that fatteau or fattoo. I don't know how
Speaker 4: they pronounce her name.
Speaker 2: No woman wants to be called fatto. I know girls
Speaker 2: on in years Dick's big boned. Yeah, she's just fluffy.
Speaker 4: A western Lowland gorilla was brought from Africa to the
Speaker 4: port of France in the late nineteen fifties by a
Speaker 4: sailor who traded her in to settle a bar bill.
Speaker 3: Fair enough, I'd rather have the thirty bucks, but I'll
Speaker 3: take a gorilla.
Speaker 2: Sense, Okay.
Speaker 4: Study fines AI disease prediction may catch illnesses before symptoms
Speaker 4: even start.
Speaker 2: I hope that's true.
Speaker 1: I don't know what queens about AI are true, but
Speaker 1: I hope that was true.
Speaker 2: Hey, go ahead.
Speaker 4: Well they're saying that things happen before you get sick
Speaker 4: on like a molecular level that humans can't detect, and
Speaker 4: that apparently AI is really.
Speaker 2: Good at seeing these things.
Speaker 3: So you got to bring that story to us in
Speaker 3: full heater on love to hear it. Getting back to
Speaker 3: the gorilla briefly, scientists are reporting now there is a
Speaker 3: civil war going on among chimps in Africa. There's a
Speaker 3: giant civil war afoot.
Speaker 2: I want to hear about that. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 4: Finally the babylon b blasphemy Pope Leo shares Ai picture
Speaker 4: depicting himself as Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Ah, who had the headline that Eric Swollwell leaving the
Speaker 1: race changes things for the Democratic who had that headline
Speaker 1: USA today?
Speaker 2: Yeah? You idiots, So you're.
Speaker 1: Acting like, well, here's an interesting byproduct of Eric Swollwell's
Speaker 1: uh eruption bimbo eruption over the weekend now clears the
Speaker 1: way further. Yeah that's what you got it wrong, you morons.
Speaker 2: No, that was the point, that's why they did it.
Speaker 2: What Yeah, they really thought they were doing something with
Speaker 2: that headline.
Speaker 3: Death of husband may clear the way from murderous boyfriend.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's what we weren't doing.
Speaker 1: Yeah wow, well, okay, the drive by media is the
Speaker 1: great russel impo put it. So the thing with the
Speaker 1: AI picking up the diseases early, which I've heard a
Speaker 1: lot and I believe could be true.
Speaker 2: But do you have to get like blood.
Speaker 1: Tests weekly or or something like that for it to
Speaker 1: be able to pick up on all this stuff?
Speaker 2: Because if they got data from your body. I don't
Speaker 2: know how can do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know how good are the scanning devices
Speaker 3: these days, your or rings and Apple's watch and I
Speaker 3: don't even know m Yeah, So we'll get that stro
Speaker 3: all those.
Speaker 1: We'll kind of get you the details on and a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of the news today.
Speaker 2: I hope you can stay here.
Speaker 1: If you miss the segment, get the podcast Armstrong and
Speaker 1: Getty on demand.
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 1: We'll talk more war with Iran a little bit later
Speaker 1: and try to figure out what is going on. Nobody
Speaker 1: seems to know us. Look at it. This is pretty
Speaker 1: much exactly what you said earlier. Mark Halpern's newsletter today
Speaker 1: was one thousand monkeys looking through one thousand glasses darkly.
Speaker 1: In other words, nobody has any idea what's going on
Speaker 1: right now at all. Nobody has any idea the involvement
Speaker 1: China has right now. There's lots swirling around there, how
Speaker 1: the blockade is going, is kind of a dark spot,
Speaker 1: and all kinds of other stuff. But MBS is pressuring
Speaker 1: Trump apparently to open the straight back up to end
Speaker 1: the blockade, having pressured Trump over the weekend to not
Speaker 1: end the war, so he wants something in between.
Speaker 3: Apparently, yeah, that's opening up this straight is the point
Speaker 3: of closing the strait.
Speaker 2: But we'll talk about that in a little bit. Can't wait.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I completely agree.
Speaker 3: They are behind the scenes, highest level, superpower level negotiations
Speaker 3: going on. Influence and strength beaning pulse, so super interesting.
Speaker 3: So in the show introduction I went with one of
Speaker 3: the titles was teachers Union's past drug dealers and damaging kids.
Speaker 3: I realized that's a strong statement and certainly not addressed
Speaker 3: to individual teachers who I treasure, including friends and family.
Speaker 3: The LA schools, which are an absolute disaster. Big news
Speaker 3: from them, as the journal editorial board leads their coverage.
Speaker 3: When government rewards failure, the result is usually more failure.
Speaker 3: That's been the story in Los Angeles with a teachers'
Speaker 3: union on Sunday secured a rich new contract notwithstanding lousy
Speaker 3: student performance and declining enrollment. It's so bad some of
Speaker 3: these numbers.
Speaker 1: We have lost control of this thing that is public
Speaker 1: education that we apparently forgot we're in charge of. It's
Speaker 1: a public school, we get to vote on all this.
Speaker 1: We're supposed to be in charge, and somehow they decided they're.
Speaker 3: In charge government schools are a giant slush fund slash
Speaker 3: political jobs program to wit. LA Unified School District's new
Speaker 3: collective bargaining agreement with the United Teachers Los Angeles Union
Speaker 3: increases salary scales by eleven and a half plus percent
Speaker 3: over two years, double the rate of inflation, plus four
Speaker 3: weeks of paid print leave, expanded student sports services that
Speaker 3: will invariably require more hiring. Pay for new teachers will
Speaker 3: jump nearly twelve percent to seventy seven thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 2: Very expensive to live in the LA area.
Speaker 3: I'm not judging that will hold off on our judgments,
Speaker 3: at least I will from of the moment. The agreement
Speaker 3: comes after the district warned two months ago that a
Speaker 3: looming eight hundred and seventy seven million dollar deficit could
Speaker 3: require thousands of layoffs. That was before the raises, said
Speaker 3: the superintendent. At some point we reach a breaking point.
Speaker 3: Increasing costs for retirement benefits, a post pandemic hiring binge,
Speaker 3: and declining student enrollments are squeezing the district's finances. State
Speaker 3: spending per pupil has soared in recent years to twenty
Speaker 3: seven and a half thousand dollars a year per student,
Speaker 3: meaning if you just had a teacher and the students granted,
Speaker 3: you know, you'd have to drag your own chair to
Speaker 3: school or whatever.
Speaker 2: I imagine the scenario.
Speaker 3: Maybe we want more than that, but if it was
Speaker 3: just a teacher and a student that twenty seven grand
Speaker 3: a year per person, you'd only need really like three
Speaker 3: students maybe four, and you could have a great class
Speaker 3: with a highly paid teacher. Anyway, but it hasn't benefited
Speaker 3: as much as other districts because it's enrollment is shrunk
Speaker 3: by nearly a quarter since twenty nineteen. By nearly a quarter.
Speaker 3: Families moved away during the pandemic when schools were closed
Speaker 3: at the behest of the unions, and the flight has
Speaker 3: continued owing to LA's crappy schools, high cost of living, taxes,
Speaker 3: and crime.
Speaker 2: Here's my favorite stat.
Speaker 3: The federal pandemic largest helped paper over the district's budget
Speaker 3: problems for time.
Speaker 2: And super charre tiring.
Speaker 3: Here's the superintendent again, and I quote, we still have
Speaker 3: a workforce that is larger than when the district had
Speaker 3: forty percent more students than we have today.
Speaker 2: WHOA, it's shrunk that much. I'll give you a moment.
Speaker 3: They have more employees than when they had forty percent more.
Speaker 1: Students, and I'm guessing the results were all so better
Speaker 1: in terms of kid that could read and write.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, much better. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Meantime, the district and state are required to make payments
Speaker 3: sequel to thirty percent of teachers salaries for the pensions.
Speaker 3: Teachers can retire at age sixty three with a pension
Speaker 3: worth six eighty five percent of their final pay, plus
Speaker 3: free health benefits for light weeks. Should It's so clever
Speaker 3: of them to have pretended, because this is what it
Speaker 3: feels like as a kid.
Speaker 1: You go to school, there are teachers. Maybe you think
Speaker 1: about the principle.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: And they convinced this that that all discussions about money
Speaker 1: for schools is about teachers, leaving out the fact that
Speaker 1: there are gazillions of people doing the other stuff. Who
Speaker 1: the knows what the hell it is that suck up
Speaker 1: all that money, and then many many union employees in
Speaker 1: the rest of it. All right, final numbers the National
Speaker 1: Assessment of Educational Progress nationwide, twenty seven percent of our
Speaker 1: kids are proficient in math.
Speaker 2: That's a miserable failure, but it's.
Speaker 3: Way better than LA Jack, where the number is eighteen percent.
Speaker 1: Eighteen percent proficiency. It's such a simple sentence. I can't
Speaker 1: believe that this isn't got more power behind it in
Speaker 1: terms of running for office or whatever. We're spending more
Speaker 1: than we ever have adjusted for inflation and getting less.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The end worse results.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it keeps going that direction. The trend line
Speaker 1: is further more money less results, more money less results.
Speaker 1: Don't give me your teachers need more money. I wish
Speaker 1: I could use the word because it is complete full less. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I know, and it works on people. Well,
Speaker 1: teachers they try so hard.
Speaker 3: They know.
Speaker 1: We're not talking about the teachers. We're talking about layers
Speaker 1: and layers of middle management who knows what the hell
Speaker 1: they do other than use money.
Speaker 3: Final note on the test scores eighteen percent proficient math
Speaker 3: in LA. I tip my imaginary cap to the journal
Speaker 3: editorial board. Their final line of the editorial is, then again,
Speaker 3: the district's catawampus finances suggest as.
Speaker 2: Leaders are no better at math. You no kidding? And
Speaker 2: I would also add so disappointing and depressing.
Speaker 3: Oh, I know, it's well, it should make people angry,
Speaker 3: which is not you know, what we intend to do.
Speaker 3: You know, sorry, thanks for listening.
Speaker 1: And the teachers' unions who get I don't know. I've
Speaker 1: said this for years now. Honest to God, don't know
Speaker 1: how they sleep at night. How have you convinced yourself
Speaker 1: that you're doing something good for the world, or that
Speaker 1: you're even break even.
Speaker 2: I mean you're evil. You are evil people. What you're
Speaker 2: doing to these kids.
Speaker 1: And you get up there and you make these claims
Speaker 1: about specifically, you know, the downtroden, the black and brown
Speaker 1: kids who come from poor income families.
Speaker 2: They're the ones getting screwed the most. The people you
Speaker 2: claim you care the most.
Speaker 1: About are the ones that absolutely are getting screwed because
Speaker 1: families that have more resources have figured out that the
Speaker 1: school doesn't teach them anything and has had to you know,
Speaker 1: go with sums are either private school or hiring tutors
Speaker 1: or whatever bypass your piece of crap to get their
Speaker 1: kid educated.
Speaker 2: You're screwing the downtrodden. And you go out there and
Speaker 2: you ask for more money. You were evil people.
Speaker 3: We'll see and I'm gonna say the same thing I
Speaker 3: always say when we have this discussion. Yes, you haven't
Speaker 3: known enough evil people.
Speaker 2: In your life. That's precisely correct. They're evil.
Speaker 3: They sleep at night like babies, they're fine, they're great,
Speaker 3: they get up with a smile on their face.
Speaker 2: They're evil. Evil exists in the world.
Speaker 3: Second thing is we haven't even gotten to the awful,
Speaker 3: awful stew of progressive policies that have hollowed out the
Speaker 3: classrooms and rendered the kids unteachable, which comes straight from
Speaker 3: not only the teachers' unions, but the colleges of education
Speaker 3: that have been at the forefront of critical theory and postmodernism,
Speaker 3: the neo Marxism I'm always talking about. I mean, they're
Speaker 3: absolutely the leaders in this stuff. And so you combine
Speaker 3: those two things, and I'm telling you, well, you were Jack.
Speaker 3: It was when you were out with your boys visiting
Speaker 3: Family's happened when.
Speaker 2: I absolutely save it for when you're there's a lot
Speaker 2: of us despite you.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Actually I have it right here. I could forward
Speaker 3: it to you, Jack, if you want to read it.
Speaker 3: We got we got a number of great emails from
Speaker 3: teachers after our discussion of this last week, including one
Speaker 3: absolute two and a half page blockbuster, and the one
Speaker 3: teacher a great email said, I think it can still
Speaker 3: be saved. Maybe I disagree because the good people are
Speaker 3: so beaten down they don't dare speak out anymore.
Speaker 1: You'd have to start over, you know. Elon this is
Speaker 1: a different topic. But Elon had an interesting post the
Speaker 1: other day about how did we ever decide that everybody
Speaker 1: at the same age should be in a grade and
Speaker 1: learn the same stuff? Who decided that? And why do
Speaker 1: we stick with it? As opposed to everybody matures at
Speaker 1: a rate. Everybody's at a different place on different subjects.
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't each subject, like like in the math school,
Speaker 1: I might have been level you know, don't make a
Speaker 1: grade or attach age to itever I might been level sixteen.
Speaker 1: But on the other stuff, something else, like a language.
Speaker 1: I never had to take a foreign language, but if
Speaker 1: I had, I'd have been awful at it. On that one,
Speaker 1: I'm at like a four, So I'm in with the
Speaker 1: people that are the fours, and in the math I'm
Speaker 1: in this one. And why don't you break it down
Speaker 1: that way as opposed to everybody in the same based
Speaker 1: on age.
Speaker 2: It's nuts, It really is. If you think about it.
Speaker 3: And I'm hearing a couple of objections burble up, and
Speaker 3: I mean, for instance, the social problem you're an eighth
Speaker 3: grader essentially, or the equivalent year in a class.
Speaker 2: With the fourth I'm in, max On how far apart
Speaker 2: you are? Sure?
Speaker 3: And ors, but again give me, let's see five seconds
Speaker 3: to think about it. Number one, to avoid the social
Speaker 3: embarrassment of certain kids, you could have catch up programs
Speaker 3: specifically for older kids who need to catch up to
Speaker 3: preserve their dignity.
Speaker 2: No problem.
Speaker 3: Secondly, maybe the first day of every single school year,
Speaker 3: you re explain to all the kids the teaching philosophy that, look,
Speaker 3: we want to meet you where you are and help
Speaker 3: you and as fast as you can succording to your
Speaker 3: interest in your abilities.
Speaker 2: No problem.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you present it that way. I think culturally we'd
Speaker 1: all get used to it.
Speaker 2: That's true. Yeah, compared to the status quo. Right.
Speaker 1: Ugh. As Elon said, you got people in classes and
Speaker 1: I know this is true. It was true, and I
Speaker 1: was a good it's true.
Speaker 2: In my kids.
Speaker 1: Classes, you got people that are so advanced in whichever
Speaker 1: class you're in, they're bored to death.
Speaker 2: And then you got the kids that are so far behind.
Speaker 1: They're just sitting there staring at the wall because they're
Speaker 1: so far behind, they don't even know what you're talking.
Speaker 2: About, right, Say what is the point? Right? That is
Speaker 2: so smart?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm reminded of our oft times discussion of the
Speaker 3: US tax code. People present like reforms or changes or something.
Speaker 3: Everybody's like, oh no, that might have a downside. I've
Speaker 3: heard that has a downside. It's just like the current
Speaker 3: education system. If you were to propose the current reality,
Speaker 3: they would put you in a mental institution. They would think,
Speaker 3: oh my god, this person's dangerously insane to present like
Speaker 3: our current tax system is a good or our current
Speaker 3: education system, and yet people act like any sort of
Speaker 3: change is a threat.
Speaker 2: I throw up my hands. I'll be on the golf
Speaker 2: course if you need me.
Speaker 1: And to the social stigma of you know, being held
Speaker 1: back or whatever, how is that.
Speaker 2: Better or we're.
Speaker 1: Depending on how you look at it better or worse.
Speaker 1: How is that something we should be more concerned about.
Speaker 1: Then you get out of school and don't have the
Speaker 1: ability to succeed in life. Oh you want to talk
Speaker 1: about social stigma. You're now eighteen years old and you
Speaker 1: can't read or do anything else, and you're supposed to
Speaker 1: find a job. I think that's going to be way
Speaker 1: more painful than if you had to redo fourth grade.
Speaker 3: And you know my final argument, and you know I
Speaker 3: was always I've always I still love learning, and I
Speaker 3: still uh I love learning and curious about everything. But
Speaker 3: you're denying those kids who are behind that. Ah wait,
Speaker 3: I get it moment, even if it comes a year
Speaker 3: or two behind the kids who were exceptionally good at it.
Speaker 3: To deny them, that is utterly cruel. To protect your union,
Speaker 3: your job, and your pay. I just despise it. I
Speaker 3: hate you, that's hate speed.
Speaker 2: Is there anybody in.
Speaker 1: The teachers unions who's not evil? Do they fight like?
Speaker 1: Is it like a split? Are they fighting the fighting
Speaker 1: the other people in the teachers union? Or do they
Speaker 1: get run out? Or you think you have the evil
Speaker 1: and the beat down? Those are the two constituencies.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: I knew a guy who was in charge of he
Speaker 1: was high up in the teachers union in a different state.
Speaker 1: He was alway talking about public educacy. I'm a big
Speaker 1: public education guy. Never got into the argument with him.
Speaker 1: I wish I would have, just, you know, hopefully in
Speaker 1: a I don't know if I could stay friendly. I
Speaker 1: have such a strong obinion on it. Tear the whole
Speaker 1: thing down. You got to start over it's a disaster,
Speaker 1: absolute disaster, and the kids.
Speaker 2: Are the victims. How do you not get that?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: We got mail bag.
Speaker 1: Mail bag is next, broadcasters, I'm going to narrow cast briefly.
Speaker 1: This is to Jensen's parents. I know you listen every
Speaker 1: single day. Jensen's dad, Tell your daughter put pressure on
Speaker 1: her to get regular flavored coffee because she's only by.
Speaker 2: All we have left is coconut mocha and I can't drink.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, you're taking this to her parents. I'm taking
Speaker 2: I'm taking it to her.
Speaker 1: Dad, Sara Lan. Not just one flavor coconut mocha. It's
Speaker 1: awful and that's all. We got boxes and boxes of it,
Speaker 1: but no regular coffee, and she orders supplies. Good lord,
Speaker 1: here are your freedom loving quotes.
Speaker 2: Of the day on the topic of war.
Speaker 1: You feel like that was out a line going over
Speaker 1: her head to her dad. Okay, I don't have to
Speaker 1: think about that controversial. Yeah, this from George S. Patten,
Speaker 1: A pint of sweat saves a gallon of blood.
Speaker 3: That's pretty good. And then this from George Washington. Perhaps
Speaker 3: you've heard.
Speaker 2: Of them, The Light Great George Washington.
Speaker 3: My first wish is to see this plague of man
Speaker 3: kind war banished from the earth. Yeah, if only, George,
Speaker 3: if only mail bag drops a note Mailbag at Armstrong
Speaker 3: and Getty dot com. Sergio writes, Dear Sirs, I'm writing
Speaker 3: to express my disappointment regarding a recent segment of your program.
Speaker 2: I've been a listener for a while.
Speaker 3: And I've always respected your perspective, but your recent commentary
Speaker 3: regarding Trump's post where he looks like a biblical figure
Speaker 3: has changed my opinion of your show. To me, it
Speaker 3: sounded like excuses were being made, similar to the rhetoric
Speaker 3: I hear from the other side of the political spectrum.
Speaker 3: I'm truly saddened by the shift and tone inconsistent with
Speaker 3: the quality.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. Sergio.
Speaker 3: My excuse was he's an atheist who pretends to be
Speaker 3: a Christian and knows nothing about it.
Speaker 2: If that strikes you as too soft, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: What's interesting is this owner if this was the same
Speaker 1: person or a different person we got this text twenty
Speaker 1: one year plus listener, this sucks. This past year has
Speaker 1: been like finding out my two cool gay dads are
Speaker 1: now a holes and are in love with the same
Speaker 1: man Trump.
Speaker 2: Wait, okay on on what topic. Look, yeah, there's no
Speaker 2: there's absolutely no please in.
Speaker 1: Everybody apparently not. But I would like to know on
Speaker 1: what topic after twenty one years we were too pro
Speaker 1: Trump yesterday? And what topic? The Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 1: we could have been more dismissive of the Jesus.
Speaker 3: Thing he put out. I said it was horrifying and blasphemous.
Speaker 3: Do me a fair ghost, write me what I should
Speaker 3: have said. If horrifying, blasphemous and an atheist pretending to
Speaker 3: respect Christianity isn't strong enough for you, which shall I haul.
Speaker 2: Myself up on the cross for you?
Speaker 3: Sergio, I don't know what you're looking for, oh lord.
Speaker 3: And then this meme, and there are plenty of them.
Speaker 3: Here's a Halloween costume, a bearded man in the white
Speaker 3: and the red sash and the rest of it, and
Speaker 3: it's labeled doctor.
Speaker 2: It's clearly a Jesus costume. Oh boy, Yeah, that's some
Speaker 2: good stuff.
Speaker 3: We belong to a different topic, specifically, scumbag Swallwell, Ricky writes,
Speaker 3: good morning, JEMs. I thought this might be a good
Speaker 3: headline for the Babylon b Democrats find their moral compass.
Speaker 3: His course heading brings them dangerously close to a Republican
Speaker 3: victory in California governor's race.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 3: Please, he could rape the woman in his congressional office
Speaker 3: with the door open. They wouldn't have said anything, except
Speaker 3: now he's kind of interfering with their chosen union Lackey
Speaker 3: getting elected, so all of a sudden they find their
Speaker 3: moral outrage.
Speaker 2: It's hilarious.
Speaker 1: I should lay out my theory on Trump running as
Speaker 1: a Republican. I don't know, never have fully laid it out.
Speaker 1: I've believed it since one I've never said it because,
Speaker 1: oh really no, not out on the air.
Speaker 2: Oh man, we're running out of time.
Speaker 3: Got a lot of great stuff, But a similar note
Speaker 3: kind of true of the millennial rights. There are likely
Speaker 3: many people in your audience who once defended Matt Gates
Speaker 3: but hated Eric Swalwell and vice versa. Why would any
Speaker 3: of these people be willing to explain the difference between
Speaker 3: these two guys. That can't be done. They're the exact
Speaker 3: same person, So why would you like the one but.
Speaker 2: Hate the other? To be fair, I maybe I just
Speaker 2: haven't heard it yet.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've heard anything that is even
Speaker 1: close to Matt Gates level that Eric Swalwell did. He
Speaker 1: drank with a bunch of chicks who weren't his wife,
Speaker 1: who got really drunk, and I had sex with him
Speaker 1: and now regret it.
Speaker 2: But is there more that I haven't heard yet? Oh?
Speaker 2: Stay tuned, Okay, Armstrong and Getty