Speaker 1: Welcome to Worst Year Ever, a production of I Heart
Speaker 1: Radio Together Everything. So don yo, what's up? No, No,
Speaker 1: what's up? It's a podcast that's good so much. We're
Speaker 1: sure ever in the house. Where's Robert? Yeah, I know
Speaker 1: we need we need Robert to come in strong right now.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, he's not here. He's not here. Welcome back
Speaker 1: to the Worst Year Ever. Folks. We are here today
Speaker 1: without Robert Evans, but we have me, Katie Stole. It's
Speaker 1: true as ever and always. And Cody Johnson is the
Speaker 1: name of the second person on the podcast. And who else?
Speaker 1: Who else is here today? Whoa whoa? Whoa? Hi? I
Speaker 1: am and this is Garrison. I'm filling in for Robert,
Speaker 1: who is otherwise predisposed at the moment. Otherwise predisposed makes
Speaker 1: him sound like he's on the toilet. Yeah he is.
Speaker 1: It's a very polite bathroom excuse yep. He's just got
Speaker 1: so so much food poisoned in the past month. It's
Speaker 1: just been a real issue. He's been pounding iver meton
Speaker 1: so he's shotting out his own heart. What do you expect?
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? Oh my goodness. The job
Speaker 1: requires a lot of extensive research. Sometimes and it has
Speaker 1: it has consequences, Yeah, exactly if you know, taking it
Speaker 1: for the sea. America. So today speaking of America, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the nation, the nation, the state, the nation state. UM,
Speaker 1: We're gonna, we are correct going to speak of America,
Speaker 1: the nation and the state. We do indeed speak of America.
Speaker 1: We speak of um today. Towards the end of the episode,
Speaker 1: we have a really great interview for you, guys, um
Speaker 1: Ah with a very lovely young woman named Olga, who
Speaker 1: is here to talk to us about the potential strike
Speaker 1: in uh Ayatsi, which is the you know, overarching union
Speaker 1: for UH I mean everybody in the entertainment industry outside
Speaker 1: of actors and writers, the International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees.
Speaker 1: Perfect yayeah perfect yeah zoom and not at that acronym.
Speaker 1: But it's it's a great interview. Stick around for that.
Speaker 1: Before we get there, we're gonna shoot the ship and
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about some some goddamn news. We're gonna
Speaker 1: splatter the ship on the walls. That sounds like you
Speaker 1: want to start by talking about what Sophie you said
Speaker 1: newsom Yeah, Garrison, do you want to talk to us
Speaker 1: about all this voter uh going on with California recall,
Speaker 1: which bothers no results sho we probably we probably won't
Speaker 1: know results yet. I mean there's there's a decent chance,
Speaker 1: but I mean hasn't cast his vote. Yeah, I have.
Speaker 1: The counters are waiting on Cody still, so as soon
Speaker 1: as this gets wrapped up then they'll be able to know.
Speaker 1: But yeah, as we're recording this, this is the election
Speaker 1: deadline with the California recall. And I've just spent the
Speaker 1: past week watching old Larry Elder stuff and doing research
Speaker 1: into the recall. It's a nightmare. Um. And you know
Speaker 1: the thing that we all suspected is going to happen,
Speaker 1: and what is happening? Is there? Fox News the past month,
Speaker 1: ever since mid August has been prepping election fraud, uh
Speaker 1: claims if Elder loses because and and it's so big.
Speaker 1: Elder was that kind of ahead of the ahead of
Speaker 1: the polls in the beginning of August, and then you know,
Speaker 1: everyone mobilized to create ads saying that he's a bad dude.
Speaker 1: So then polls have flipped and nowhere it's looking like
Speaker 1: you know, the new symbol price stay in office. Um.
Speaker 1: Probably well we'll see, um. But what they're what they're
Speaker 1: doing in response is that now they're now trying to
Speaker 1: get everyone all riled up to say that you know,
Speaker 1: this election fraud, the mailand ballots, blah blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: all the same stuff from last year. There's doing it again,
Speaker 1: and they're setting the stage for just having this same
Speaker 1: claim be used now in every election whenever the Republicans lose,
Speaker 1: right that, that's what's what they're preparing for. We're gonna
Speaker 1: do this same circle again and again. Um. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: not great, just real quick there. This is gonna happen
Speaker 1: over and over and over again, like you said, until
Speaker 1: the end of time. That's great, we love it. Um.
Speaker 1: One thing that we could not do is have like
Speaker 1: reporters constantly ask these people like it seems like a
Speaker 1: bad thing. Like you're like, what do you think they're
Speaker 1: going to say? Why are you asking this person? You know,
Speaker 1: let's not give them the chance to the same same thing,
Speaker 1: hoping they'll say no, that's why they're asking. They want
Speaker 1: a story that they can the same thing. When reporters
Speaker 1: asked Trump about Q and on, You're like, you don't
Speaker 1: ask them that, there's no reason to do it. You're
Speaker 1: just making it worse. It's the same thing. Yeah, No
Speaker 1: matter no matter what answer he gives, it's gonna be bad. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like there's no good solution to this. Like it's not
Speaker 1: They're not going to say a good thing. Whenever I
Speaker 1: hear more stories or you know, just people saying like
Speaker 1: a fraud or they cheated all this stuff, I feel
Speaker 1: like they never you guys never read The Boy who
Speaker 1: Cried Wolf? Did you? The thing is it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: I know it doesn't matter, but it does. Are you
Speaker 1: saying it matters to us? But for the thing I
Speaker 1: believe in it? It doesn't? Yeah? Um, well that's I
Speaker 1: was hoping that you're going to come on this show
Speaker 1: and give us something positive to chew on, and instead
Speaker 1: you bring this. I do something, I do something positive
Speaker 1: for later. But but this, this can start. And I
Speaker 1: know last last weekend, Elder set up this whole website online. Cody,
Speaker 1: do you do you want to do you want to
Speaker 1: talk about the website? Um, it's it's just fine, shirt.
Speaker 1: I love it. It's amazing. I can't believe it exists already.
Speaker 1: It seems like a thing that they had planned and
Speaker 1: ready to go, and they just like accidentally published it early.
Speaker 1: Um accidentally accidentally. Um. So he has his website and
Speaker 1: if you go, it's like a report uh fraud uh
Speaker 1: link and it goes to this other place, UM that
Speaker 1: claim it had already detected fraud, already detected detected fraud
Speaker 1: in the results of the California recall election, resulting in
Speaker 1: Governor Gavin Newsom being reinstated as governor. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if anyone else was listening to Garrison earlier, uh,
Speaker 1: because it was mentioned that the election is not over. Um,
Speaker 1: it's today, as as was pointed out. Also, I have
Speaker 1: not voted yet, Um, so how do they have these results?
Speaker 1: They really stated you have to be removed first. Also
Speaker 1: that's weird. Yeah, Like they literally can't start counting votes
Speaker 1: until today. There's there's like like like like actually like
Speaker 1: like they cannot count votes until the fourteenth. There's no
Speaker 1: way to detect fraud already because there's no one's counted
Speaker 1: votes yet, right. Yeah. But because Benford's law, don't worry,
Speaker 1: it means it's legit. I can't believe this, Like it's
Speaker 1: just like wait, it's so it's just a slap dash
Speaker 1: incompetent and but also like part of it's like is
Speaker 1: it incompetent? It is do it early because they know
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, because it does not matter. Um, now
Speaker 1: that they're setting this up, like Elder has been on
Speaker 1: Fox News the lot the past week plugging this site.
Speaker 1: He plugged the site at a rally a few days ago.
Speaker 1: Like he's talked about it like he's wanting people to
Speaker 1: talk about it. Right, we're talking about it now, which
Speaker 1: is maybe you know, well, yeah it's good, but that's
Speaker 1: gonna that's the last ditch way of riling people up.
Speaker 1: He's saying that there's already been instances of voter fraud.
Speaker 1: Well that should get them out of their houses and
Speaker 1: voting on election day. Yeah, it's not great. You know,
Speaker 1: Tucker is talking about it every day on Fox News.
Speaker 1: They have a segment on it. It's gonna be like
Speaker 1: this forever. This is just how things are now because
Speaker 1: they because of what happened in January six. Like, I
Speaker 1: guess we can do that again if we just keep trying.
Speaker 1: So now, if we're just doing this so yep, I
Speaker 1: love elections. Look elections, Um, what else we want to
Speaker 1: discuss here right now? Sells, we're talking about the dress.
Speaker 1: You wanna talk about the Met? You want to talk
Speaker 1: about the most torturous. What is the MET Gala? A gala?
Speaker 1: I don't know, doesn't does anyone know? Does anyone know?
Speaker 1: All I know is Vogue Magazines involved in and it's
Speaker 1: a fundraiser. I believe UM speak our best guest. While
Speaker 1: what is the I've only been to the Met once.
Speaker 1: It was on a high school field trip and we
Speaker 1: were watching an opera and I left during intermission to
Speaker 1: get high, and I came back and it was I've
Speaker 1: got it. I've got the snow. They had fake snow
Speaker 1: in the second act and it was beautiful. It was
Speaker 1: like the sense, We're amazing, so so so okay, here
Speaker 1: I've got something you have. So the Met is, as
Speaker 1: I assumed, the Metropolitan Museum of Art. And according to
Speaker 1: a quick Will search, what is the purpose of the
Speaker 1: MET Gala? Affectionately referred to as Fashion's biggest night out,
Speaker 1: the Met Gala one is a fundraising benefit for the
Speaker 1: Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York City. The event
Speaker 1: welcome stars, young creatives and industry paragons. I did read
Speaker 1: that as industry pagans in my head, and I wish
Speaker 1: I wisht google. Um. Yeah, it's one of the regular
Speaker 1: events of the year where everybody loses their mind over
Speaker 1: the ridiculous dresses that nobody should be wearing but are. Um. Also,
Speaker 1: people seem to share a lot of like old like
Speaker 1: dresses from like other like years and like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: look at this. It's like that's from like five years ago.
Speaker 1: Do we do this every year now? Well, I mean
Speaker 1: right now, they're comparing Hayley Steinfeld with her current look
Speaker 1: with her old look. And I'll accept that as reason too.
Speaker 1: So I don't care. I don't give a fuck. I
Speaker 1: I shouldn't sit here pretending like I do. There are
Speaker 1: there are a few standouts. James Gordon's talks was magnificent.
Speaker 1: Just a beautiful, beautiful sculpted man in that black tux. Amazing. Um.
Speaker 1: But you know, the main thing people are talking about
Speaker 1: is is AOC's tex text or stress. I don't care
Speaker 1: about this at all, but some people on Twitter evidently
Speaker 1: do a lot of misinformation about it. They're like, We're like,
Speaker 1: I feel like she's more people just making assumptions. People
Speaker 1: didn't buy herself a ticket to the met Gala. She
Speaker 1: was given a ticket to the met Gala and AOC
Speaker 1: decided to go there and use it as an opportunity
Speaker 1: to make a statement, which you do, you know, and
Speaker 1: and she did that. At the other end of it, Um,
Speaker 1: she should be aware that a lot of the people
Speaker 1: that got her into office already feel like she maybe
Speaker 1: isn't the person that they originally thought her to be,
Speaker 1: and that some people found this to be flip in
Speaker 1: certain ways, and um, superficial. I don't know, I mean,
Speaker 1: I yeah, like I don't care enough about this. Um,
Speaker 1: but it is like, yeah, it's a little flip, it's
Speaker 1: a little um. It's I've seen a lot of people like, well,
Speaker 1: uh now, tax the rich is trend trending on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Uh So clearly the message worked. And it's like, I
Speaker 1: don't know. To me, people already want to tax the rich.
Speaker 1: It is a very popular policy to propose rich trends
Speaker 1: on Twitter pretty regularly. Like she didn't make anybody, uh
Speaker 1: like at the met gal like uncomfortable because she's among them.
Speaker 1: And it's sort of like commodifying this sort of like
Speaker 1: so like it's like selling socialism in a capitalist way
Speaker 1: to like be like, look at my I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's just commodifies and it's in a weird way. Also,
Speaker 1: there's a Black Lives Matter protest right outside and they
Speaker 1: got literalized by the police. Yeah, protest so in the
Speaker 1: cops or about police brutality. A lot of shock but
Speaker 1: no like but like like, she's not that, it's not
Speaker 1: the people were acting like she she didn't spends on
Speaker 1: a ticket for her dress. Politicians get invited to that
Speaker 1: event every year and attend. She was one of many
Speaker 1: that were there that night. Um, but like Garinson said,
Speaker 1: I don't care. She doesn't care. There is one There's
Speaker 1: one thing I do care about is that so someone
Speaker 1: was wearing a peg the patriarchy thing, which is kind
Speaker 1: of a little bit whatever. I don't care that either.
Speaker 1: What I do care about is just today, Ben Shapier
Speaker 1: did the whole segment on this and he and he
Speaker 1: and he describes pegging as quote an obscure sexual practice
Speaker 1: in which women perform the more aggressive sexual act on men.
Speaker 1: And I think, and I think it's pretty funny. It
Speaker 1: is extremely but I just like that we now have
Speaker 1: Ben Shapira talking about pegging the outfit as it's like
Speaker 1: scantily clad. Then like there's not so outside what are
Speaker 1: you talking about him? M it's like the Simpsons. The
Speaker 1: Simpsons think of the guy covering his eyes, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like my my freaking ears. Um. It's uh that
Speaker 1: I did see that. That's very funny that he every
Speaker 1: so often has to talk about things that make him
Speaker 1: so deeply uncomfortable. Yeah, it's pretty good. I have to.
Speaker 1: He really didn't have to. It does not matter. Um, No,
Speaker 1: it does not matter. But he was of course he
Speaker 1: was going to talk about it. Um. I have one
Speaker 1: parting thought on AOC. I also don't care, but perhaps
Speaker 1: care slightly more than you guys, um, because then I think, like,
Speaker 1: what would have what would I have chosen to do
Speaker 1: if I was offered that, because it sounds very exciting
Speaker 1: to get invited when I'm not a OC and I
Speaker 1: don't represent you know, I'm not the same way. And
Speaker 1: if I was gonna go, I like that she you
Speaker 1: know she's gonna go. I like that she did what
Speaker 1: she did, but also feels a little bit pr movie.
Speaker 1: So it's it's slightly funny with me, but I don't
Speaker 1: hate her for it. And part of me thinks that
Speaker 1: the little girl and me would have loved it, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just being honest. Yeah sure, but also yeah, like
Speaker 1: you're not people are going to make fun of me
Speaker 1: that I don't know, like I I understand, um, everyone's
Speaker 1: opinion about it, and uh, no one will talk about
Speaker 1: it in a day, and she will continue to do
Speaker 1: stuff like this that enrages people. And uh it's you know,
Speaker 1: there is a like a bit of like a packaging,
Speaker 1: uh that I think is kind of um, not necessarily
Speaker 1: helpful or uh, I agree genuine that you know, I
Speaker 1: don't love it. But the commodification is a really good point,
Speaker 1: just how we've seen a lot of these kind of
Speaker 1: ideas that used to be more radical as they get mainstream,
Speaker 1: they get very like watered down and turned into things
Speaker 1: that they don't that they didn't originally represent. And we
Speaker 1: see this a lot with you know, even even to
Speaker 1: some degree with with like with like how popular Bernie got.
Speaker 1: But then again, like a lot of people who call
Speaker 1: themselves socialists or communist or anarchists wouldn't have gotten to
Speaker 1: that point if it won't if it weren't for someone
Speaker 1: like Bernie in the first place. That's very well said Garrison.
Speaker 1: But yeah, like having that like, you know, it's sort
Speaker 1: of it's sort of waters down. Um this sort of
Speaker 1: like revolutionary aspect of like a lot of these like
Speaker 1: allegedly revolutionary aspect. Like there was even a moment where
Speaker 1: she was talking the red carpet red carpet or whatever,
Speaker 1: where she's talking about how like we need to like
Speaker 1: you know, it's important issue and like we need to
Speaker 1: fee the exact phrases like we need to bring uh
Speaker 1: you know, all classes into this conversation um about like
Speaker 1: what to do and stuff. And to me, it's like, no,
Speaker 1: we don't, don't ignorecific class and let one actually like
Speaker 1: speak and uh, the like to see this sort of
Speaker 1: like it's very inclusive, like we need to bring all
Speaker 1: classes together. Evolution of her as a politician kind of
Speaker 1: feels represented in this decision to go. I mean I
Speaker 1: keep thinking about it. I don't think that I would
Speaker 1: have done it if I was her. I just it
Speaker 1: seems like, yeah, this kind of thing where like she
Speaker 1: was like probably like I really want to go, but
Speaker 1: if I go, then it will look like this, so
Speaker 1: like something it's like I think that it's just not
Speaker 1: the best look. But also yes, people were misinterpreting and
Speaker 1: saying the wrong things about it. The one o the
Speaker 1: thing that actually in AOC news today, her and uh
Speaker 1: and a few other a few of the more like
Speaker 1: progressive UM Congress people are trying to introduce an amendment
Speaker 1: to block the delivery of US made bombs into Israel. Um,
Speaker 1: and that that just got that just got announced today.
Speaker 1: Well that's there. At there's also like because they're just
Speaker 1: gonna be always going to be a split between like
Speaker 1: here's what the media is like sessing over and talking
Speaker 1: about and here's what they're actually like doing, um for
Speaker 1: their jobs. Um. But um, yeah, I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: it is what it is, what it is. She is
Speaker 1: who she is. And but also I will say we will,
Speaker 1: we will. I absolutely agree we did totally should. I
Speaker 1: will say. It's the kind of thing where like, you know,
Speaker 1: I've I've seen a lot of like, uh, if Bernie
Speaker 1: went and he did that, you'd love it, and it's like, well,
Speaker 1: he wouldn't do that. I just had that same thought.
Speaker 1: I was like if Bernie would Bernie go, No, he
Speaker 1: just wouldn't. He wouldn't like and it wouldn't even be
Speaker 1: like prinssible, I don't want to go. He'd just be
Speaker 1: like I don't do that. What's the point. It's like
Speaker 1: that that interview did with New York Times where he
Speaker 1: was talking about like birthday cards for people, and it's like,
Speaker 1: I just don't like, I just don't do that bullshit.
Speaker 1: I'm not a bullshitter. I'm not gonna bullshit you. Just
Speaker 1: so you write a nice thing about me. Um, but whatever,
Speaker 1: we don't need to talk about it ever again. Models
Speaker 1: or friends. Yeah, we're friends who are friends. Products and
Speaker 1: services that products and services that together everything, so don't
Speaker 1: and we are back. Thanks friends for introducing all the
Speaker 1: products and services to the listeners before we get to
Speaker 1: the interview that we've already teased once. Um, we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk a real quick combo about supply chain stuff. Is it?
Speaker 1: Is it going well? That's going great? Oh good, we're
Speaker 1: doing We're doing good. Everything's opened up, everyone's healthy. Chipping
Speaker 1: containers are going from place to place and that's no problem.
Speaker 1: Got enough chips, got chips, got chips, you got you
Speaker 1: got your car parts. Okay, let's say that that everything
Speaker 1: you just said wasn't true. Oh no, I I just
Speaker 1: I just I just got a text message from the
Speaker 1: head of UPS saying that we need to buy all
Speaker 1: of our Christmas presents now, because otherwise we're not going
Speaker 1: to get anything in December because the supply chains are
Speaker 1: actually getting clogged. Oh no, just anecdotally. I bought some
Speaker 1: k masks from a month and a half ago, and
Speaker 1: they are just waiting at you as ups or usps wherever.
Speaker 1: They are not moving anyway. Let's talk about supplections. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of different shortages happening. Um.
Speaker 1: One of the big ones is this chip shortage for
Speaker 1: vehicles that's affecting not just the new vehicle market but
Speaker 1: also used uh and also the rental car market, and
Speaker 1: it looks like it's not going to get better anytime soon.
Speaker 1: That's the thing about supply chains I'm learning is it
Speaker 1: turns out we've made a system that is like a
Speaker 1: big Jenga tower, and every little thing relies on something
Speaker 1: else working. So if one part goes missing, then it
Speaker 1: all falls apart. And that's a that's a nice way
Speaker 1: to make things. If who could have thought of that?
Speaker 1: Who could have predicted enough? And if, like me, you
Speaker 1: want and looked at for a car over the weekend
Speaker 1: and there was none to look at, I am so sorry. Really, Yeah,
Speaker 1: glad I got my I mean all of it. It's bad.
Speaker 1: It's bad. And like and like the markup on vehicles
Speaker 1: right now for new and and and uh certified pre
Speaker 1: owned or whatever they're calling it whatever jargon that I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm carwards. Uh, the prices suck. And like I mean, yea, yeah,
Speaker 1: the markup. They're marking up prices really high because there's
Speaker 1: no supply. Yeah, it's a supply demand thing. I mean
Speaker 1: this is happening because like because of how many little
Speaker 1: specific things are needed to make so many different products,
Speaker 1: especially when they rely on like chips or any kind
Speaker 1: of computer parts. Um, it just makes stuff impossible to
Speaker 1: be old because you're missing too many important things, like
Speaker 1: Toyota is making. I think I think they said, how
Speaker 1: did you just pronounce the name of that car, Toyota.
Speaker 1: I really liked it. I really said Toyota. It's it's Toyota.
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed it. Doesn't know how that is the
Speaker 1: that is the Canadian that is the Canadian Way. That
Speaker 1: was wonderful for thank you. But yeah, they're mak they're
Speaker 1: making less less cars this year. A lot of other
Speaker 1: automakers based in Japan or based in Uh, in Asia,
Speaker 1: UM are are making a whole lot less because of
Speaker 1: just how many ports are closed in Asia still because
Speaker 1: they're trying to control spread of the delta variant and
Speaker 1: all this kind of Yeah. And also that the you know,
Speaker 1: specifically in the situation of chips, Yeah, manufacturing at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the pandemic, big corporations and in these these companies,
Speaker 1: UM take a gamble and make a guess about how
Speaker 1: much you should produce based on what's happening globally and
Speaker 1: your lay them. I don't know, we should probably scale backs.
Speaker 1: We're not wasting money and um and then it here
Speaker 1: we are with a shortage that's going to take that
Speaker 1: to counteract takes you know, years to make up the
Speaker 1: difference that has been lost. And like currently you know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and which company you have hangars full of cars that
Speaker 1: can't be finished because you can't get the chip in there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and cars are not the only obviously not the only
Speaker 1: thing that No, this is a cross and this should
Speaker 1: also I mean, we talked about some of this stuff
Speaker 1: a little bit with Chelsea Manning a few weeks ago
Speaker 1: about supply chain issues that we're going to start seeing,
Speaker 1: and it's absolutely is not just cars and stuff, it's everything.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's our food supply. It's coffee also coffee.
Speaker 1: Another thing that we've talked about is you know how
Speaker 1: global warming, how climate change is affecting our crops and
Speaker 1: crop production, and coffee is about to get really expensive
Speaker 1: and harder to come by. Yeah, it's also it's also
Speaker 1: it's also paper. There's a huge paper shortage right now
Speaker 1: and it's affecting our school supplies. Apparently I was reading
Speaker 1: about that too this morning. Um, but yeah, the summary
Speaker 1: is that there's a labor shortage, there's a product shortage,
Speaker 1: and there doesn't seem to be any awesome structural timeline
Speaker 1: for when this will be fixed. Food is how we
Speaker 1: abolished cars. Abolished cars. Yeah, that's how. That's proptimistic. How
Speaker 1: would I drive to the poll to vote if I
Speaker 1: hadn't voted, which I have voted, but some somebody here
Speaker 1: has not? Who's that? What are you talking about? You?
Speaker 1: It's you? But I will have been a person who
Speaker 1: has voted. Sign of selfie. I want proof, no selfie,
Speaker 1: no no vote. Gosh, I'll show you the sticker for
Speaker 1: legal reasons, do not. You might might not be is
Speaker 1: it legal in California, take a selfie when you vote.
Speaker 1: I don't know there's certain states, but that is illegal,
Speaker 1: which is I'll bring a bunch of bottled water. Um. Anyways,
Speaker 1: is there anything you want to add on the shortage care?
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's pretty much. That's pretty much it.
Speaker 1: There's a shortage. It sucks. There's shortage on a lot
Speaker 1: of things. Labor, everything, everything is, everything is a stacked
Speaker 1: Jenka tower and it's all going down and products are expensive.
Speaker 1: Wall come crumbling down in the walls come crumbling, crumbling,
Speaker 1: and I think that it just keeps saying that over again, right,
Speaker 1: And like Harrison doesn't know, he's too young. Nope, nobody knows.
Speaker 1: Nobody knows that I'm quoting a song. Okay, no idea.
Speaker 1: Cut it out or leave it in. I don't care.
Speaker 1: Double it, do it twice? All right. This is the
Speaker 1: point in the show where I do a third plug
Speaker 1: for interview, which is coming up next. Okay, So, as
Speaker 1: we probably set up in the intro that we haven't
Speaker 1: recorded yet, today we have the pleasure of sitting down
Speaker 1: and chatting with Olga Lexel you. I'm going to redo that.
Speaker 1: Did I pronounce your last name? Right, the only person
Speaker 1: who's ever pronounced it correctly. I just got on in
Speaker 1: my head. Okay, keep keep all of this in, Daniel,
Speaker 1: I did it. I did it well. Um Olga, who
Speaker 1: is a writer's assistant and a script coordinator, and she's
Speaker 1: here today to talk to us about what is going
Speaker 1: on with the I A T s e uh and
Speaker 1: the potential strike that's coming up. UM. First, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining us. Yeah, pleasure, Thank you for
Speaker 1: wanting to know more. Oh absolutely, I mean well we
Speaker 1: we we live in Los Angeles. UM, so perhaps my
Speaker 1: feet is abnormally filled with conversations about this, but I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure that our listeners have caught wind of it
Speaker 1: at some point, and if they haven't, they should and
Speaker 1: they will definitely care about what we have to talk
Speaker 1: about today. So to start, why don't you just tell
Speaker 1: us what I A T S C is, what it
Speaker 1: stands for and and and yeah, we'll start there. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: so is the YAZZI I like that. I know some
Speaker 1: people pronounce it yatsi though, and that's weird, but is
Speaker 1: essentially the largest union in entertainment, and um it represents
Speaker 1: basically almost all rank and file in the production world. Um,
Speaker 1: I think most people usually when they think of unions
Speaker 1: think of like the w g A. The d g
Speaker 1: AATs is like the less glamorous, younger brother of those unions. Um,
Speaker 1: we have like the fewest I think multi millionaires of
Speaker 1: any union instry, but we do have, you know, the
Speaker 1: folks making minimum wage. Basically, anybody you meet on a set,
Speaker 1: especially in l A, is going to be a member
Speaker 1: of ayotsy. Yeah, it's pretty vital, you know. Obviously l
Speaker 1: A is known to be as being the attend entertainment
Speaker 1: industry and talks about the w g A or SAG
Speaker 1: negotiations are always pretty front and center in the mainstream media.
Speaker 1: But this is vital. This these are the people that
Speaker 1: actually do the really hard intensive labor, the truly back
Speaker 1: breaking labor of which there is a lot that goes
Speaker 1: into making the stuff that we consume. UM And just
Speaker 1: as an example, not every iotsy, local and craft would strike.
Speaker 1: It's only folks who are part of the basic Agreement,
Speaker 1: which is a contract that was created, but that I
Speaker 1: includes props, grips, crafty, first aid cinematographers, sound, um, some
Speaker 1: assistant editors, costumes, makeup hair, electricians, writer's assistant script suprisors.
Speaker 1: It's like everybody. Yeah, so to be clear, everybody, almost everybody.
Speaker 1: We do you within that, do you have like the union,
Speaker 1: So IOTSY is like, oh, there's individual unions within that
Speaker 1: kind of so IOTSY is known as the International is
Speaker 1: kind of the big body that represents different locals, and
Speaker 1: there's different locals operating in different regions. For example, I'm
Speaker 1: a member of IoTs eight seventy one, which represents writers
Speaker 1: assistants in Los Angeles. Um but if you're a writer
Speaker 1: assistant in New York, you're not represented by eight seventy one.
Speaker 1: At the same time, you know, here in Atlanta, people
Speaker 1: who in l A would have been in eight seventy
Speaker 1: one are in one sixty one. So there's tons of
Speaker 1: different locals, Like there's there's some that have strong her
Speaker 1: affiliations with the Greater International, and there's some that don't.
Speaker 1: Um uh, there's It really depends on state laws wherever.
Speaker 1: But from what I'm reading this, if this strike were
Speaker 1: to take place, and we're going to get into the
Speaker 1: specifics of it, this would be the first industry wide
Speaker 1: strike in the union's history. Yeah, I have pretty massive
Speaker 1: never gone on strike, which is wild to think about Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, the w g A has obviously gone on
Speaker 1: strike multiple times and it's a much smaller union and
Speaker 1: again more high profile, so they get away with that.
Speaker 1: This is these are the people that get taken advantage of. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean it's kind of cool because I feel like
Speaker 1: when the w g A want on strike, my memories
Speaker 1: are of like celebrity writers being yeah, whereas I don't
Speaker 1: think anybody in AOTSI is really a huge celebrity. I
Speaker 1: guess not yet maybe wait wait till this this this
Speaker 1: podcast drops. Oh okay, um, all right, So where we're
Speaker 1: at right now is that the current contract deal expired
Speaker 1: on September ten, um, and so now it's expired. People
Speaker 1: are working under expired contracts. But according to what I
Speaker 1: understand is the most recent communications, the two sides are
Speaker 1: still very far apart. And I know that you're not
Speaker 1: allowed to talk about everything that's happening right now, um,
Speaker 1: but I would love to hear about what's happening, what
Speaker 1: what you ever you can share, and then let's talk
Speaker 1: about what you guys are asking for. Yeah, totally. I
Speaker 1: think this has been a really unique process. Um. I
Speaker 1: only joined DIOTSY a couple of years ago, and I
Speaker 1: haven't been through a negotiation, but from what I've heard,
Speaker 1: this is the first time that multiple locals have all
Speaker 1: come together to negotiate like this, which gives us bigger leverage,
Speaker 1: you know. So instead of like, oh, we're the writer's
Speaker 1: assistance and we're going to go on strike if you
Speaker 1: don't give us a raise, we're like, no, we're going
Speaker 1: to go on strike with the grips and everybody else
Speaker 1: to know. Um, So, I think it's really cool. It's
Speaker 1: been it's been great to see other people have our backs.
Speaker 1: It's every every local and Nazi kind of has its
Speaker 1: own things that we deal with. Like you know, grips
Speaker 1: tend to make more money in the union, like forty
Speaker 1: bucks an hour or more, whereas writer's assistants make sixteen
Speaker 1: bucks an hour. Oh yeah, but writer's assistance, for example,
Speaker 1: don't necessarily work twelve hour days on set. They aren't
Speaker 1: necessarily doing like hard labor on set, which a lot
Speaker 1: of other locals might be. So there's uh, it's been
Speaker 1: really interesting to see all the different components of um
Speaker 1: these negotiations, and the stuff that is kind of more
Speaker 1: publicly discussed is a need for reasonable rest um is
Speaker 1: a big one. So let's break some of these down
Speaker 1: as we go, because I think that's really important and
Speaker 1: to that blow through reasonable rest. And I think what
Speaker 1: most people don't understand when you're watching your TV shows
Speaker 1: is what a day on set looks like. And under
Speaker 1: the current rules, I mean, we're talking twelve hour days
Speaker 1: plus overtime of people being on their feet. If you
Speaker 1: are a camera operator, you're carrying a heavy, heavy piece
Speaker 1: of equipment that does long term damage to your body,
Speaker 1: you know, saying with the grips everybody, you're not having
Speaker 1: and then if you go there's just a standard, and
Speaker 1: it's it's it's so it's accepted that you you pack
Speaker 1: as much as you can into these days, and if
Speaker 1: you don't make your page count, you go into overtime.
Speaker 1: And what that does is that that doesn't give you
Speaker 1: enough of a turnaround. For a lot of people, they
Speaker 1: go home, they don't have time to properly rest before
Speaker 1: coming back to work. And the crazy thing is the
Speaker 1: twelve hour work day in the industry has been a
Speaker 1: standard for so long that now people basically factor in
Speaker 1: the penalties for violating it into their budget. So the
Speaker 1: for example, we have meal penalties. If you don't get
Speaker 1: the meal break when you're supposed to, the production has
Speaker 1: to pay a penalty. UM. Now you have a lot
Speaker 1: of producers who set up their budget assuming we're not
Speaker 1: going to have meals and we're just going to eat that.
Speaker 1: And when you have studios with infinite money, they can
Speaker 1: do that. But yeah, it's just it's just a monitor
Speaker 1: a small price, but they're not factoring in the human
Speaker 1: cost totally. I know in my union, for example, UM
Speaker 1: script supervisors, who track continuity between shots one of the
Speaker 1: most essential jobs on a set for UM. I know,
Speaker 1: one big issue we've been having is there's a new
Speaker 1: type of schedule called the French hour, where you only
Speaker 1: shoot for ten hours, and instead of having a big
Speaker 1: break in the middle of the day for lunch, UM
Speaker 1: people take rolling breaks. So we'll have a group of
Speaker 1: people eat at eleven and then at twelve and then
Speaker 1: at one. But the script supervisors are stuck in their
Speaker 1: chair as long as the cameras rolling, so when there's
Speaker 1: no break, they don't get to eat because they have
Speaker 1: to be constantly tracking what's happening in the shot. UM.
Speaker 1: So reasonable rest and meal breaks have been a big
Speaker 1: thing for those folks in Yeah, I'm sure that this
Speaker 1: is complicated, keeping in mind, you know, negotiating something that's
Speaker 1: beneficial to this group of people, and then also you know,
Speaker 1: scripts are the gaffers and the script supervisors coming to
Speaker 1: the table at the same time and trying to negotiate
Speaker 1: on everybody's behalfe complicated little things that we don't think about. Um.
Speaker 1: There's a great Instagram account called I a Underscore Stories
Speaker 1: that's all people in IOTSI talking about what they've experienced
Speaker 1: on set. And I was reading something from a sound
Speaker 1: person who talked about developing like a chronic bladder failure
Speaker 1: condition from holding it in and not being able to
Speaker 1: go to the bathroom because you know nobody's going to
Speaker 1: stop and wait for you to take a break. Humane.
Speaker 1: It's totally inhumane. It's I mean, people have horrible physical
Speaker 1: problems because of this stuff. Yeah, it's I I just know,
Speaker 1: like I think, I feel like there's such a there's
Speaker 1: a cultural aspect to this industry, specifically with regards to
Speaker 1: that because in a lot of people's mind, like you know,
Speaker 1: you're making something, you're making a movie or a show,
Speaker 1: and like that's the important thing, and that's the thing
Speaker 1: that people before they even get into the industry, they do,
Speaker 1: uh suffer for it. They do like go without meals,
Speaker 1: they do like work twelve to fourteen sixty hours a
Speaker 1: day because they're passionate about the project and then bringing
Speaker 1: all of that energy in and just sort of assuming like, well,
Speaker 1: surely you're going to continue to work like that and
Speaker 1: exactly exploring exploiting the this sort of idea of just
Speaker 1: like the project is an important thing. We're creating this,
Speaker 1: and you have to suffer in order for that to this.
Speaker 1: I feel like she gets away with it more when
Speaker 1: I went to film school that you just like taught
Speaker 1: us that. They're like, yeah, you're good, You're good. You're
Speaker 1: gonna stand for fourteen hours. That's just part of the thing.
Speaker 1: So they would like have us just like practice standing
Speaker 1: an hour still holding holding like a boom mic, just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna do this, Like that's just part of the therison.
Speaker 1: That's wild. That's like film school pe. Yeah, So like
Speaker 1: they're just training you to do it right, because yeah,
Speaker 1: because you're you're when you want to do that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff, you do that anyway. If you're passionate about it,
Speaker 1: then you have to get it in. Yeah, because that's
Speaker 1: that's that that's your dream. We're laughing, but that's horrible. Yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it's yeah, that's not funny. I think. I think it's
Speaker 1: internalized capitalism to this idea how hard you have to work.
Speaker 1: I want to get back to Yatzi, but this whole
Speaker 1: conversation makes me think about the broader conversation culturally that
Speaker 1: we're having um and we'll be having more of, I
Speaker 1: think and hope in the near future, is of the
Speaker 1: four day work week and how actually when you provide
Speaker 1: enough time for people to live their lives and be
Speaker 1: healthy human beings, you get more work done, more efficiently
Speaker 1: and a better product. And you're seeing that around the world.
Speaker 1: And the battle is fighting against this narrative that we
Speaker 1: have to work work, work, work work. We have to
Speaker 1: push it and like that is to be celebrated, that
Speaker 1: this is to the glorification of the overworking anyway, well,
Speaker 1: and so much of it is about squeezing as much
Speaker 1: labor as you can out of every worker without you know,
Speaker 1: giving them paid for that. Like, one thing I've really
Speaker 1: learned throughout just my time in the industry is that
Speaker 1: a lot of these jobs in these negotiations are treated
Speaker 1: as totally replaceable. Um. You know, you're like, if you're
Speaker 1: a grip, uh and you want to take a day off,
Speaker 1: we'll find another grip. But the reality is that like
Speaker 1: I don't know how to be a grip like I do,
Speaker 1: any of you know how to be a grip? Like
Speaker 1: they're going to find someone off the street who's going
Speaker 1: to be a grip um Like I can't. I can
Speaker 1: barely lift myself out of my chair, um, let alone
Speaker 1: sixty pound lights. But there's this idea that you're so
Speaker 1: replaceable and if you ask for anything above the bare minimum,
Speaker 1: they'll find somebody else to take your job because everybody
Speaker 1: wants to work in Hollywood. Reality is I know more
Speaker 1: people leaving the industry than coming here. Absolutely, absolutely because
Speaker 1: of the way we treat people and and to your point,
Speaker 1: these aren't just replaceable people. That's a skilled trade. It's
Speaker 1: a talent and it takes a lot of time and
Speaker 1: effort in training to be good at it. You can't
Speaker 1: be a g without like two years of training. I
Speaker 1: really love to see a production where they just hire
Speaker 1: scab makeup, hair grips, dps the whole work and see
Speaker 1: how it goes truly, because at the end of the
Speaker 1: day too, if I ask he goes on strike, I
Speaker 1: think the studios would lose more money than they would
Speaker 1: if they just gave us everything we wanted, which is
Speaker 1: like a couple of bucks an hour and bathroom breaks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, So some of the other things that
Speaker 1: you guys are talking about, Yeah, living wages, that seems reasonable.
Speaker 1: I know that that's tricky for negotiating because you've got
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of different UM types of jobs here. UM.
Speaker 1: I would love to talk about new media as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's been really interesting. New media obviously has been around
Speaker 1: for decades. Not really new, is it, but we still
Speaker 1: call it new media. Yeah, it's become mostly an excuse
Speaker 1: to just underpay people for something that's paid just does
Speaker 1: like a scrappy little startup when you know most of
Speaker 1: these companies have more money than god. UM. Netflix is
Speaker 1: part of the basic agreement, but there's a lot of
Speaker 1: other new media places that aren't UM. And I think
Speaker 1: the argument that we've been hearing a lot is that
Speaker 1: UM new media is an experiments and we don't know
Speaker 1: if it will pay off. But it makes my blood
Speaker 1: boil when I hear that sentence a little bit like sorry,
Speaker 1: go ahead, yea, But I mean it's like Beta max
Speaker 1: is an experiment and that lasted like fifteen years, So
Speaker 1: should we just exploit people the whole fifteen years that
Speaker 1: we have? Also, at what point does new media stopping
Speaker 1: an experiment? All we Cody and I, separate from this show,
Speaker 1: have an entire company based around a YouTube show that
Speaker 1: you know, people watch on their televisions. One of the
Speaker 1: biggest production houses is like Netflix and Hulu, Amazon Prime.
Speaker 1: They're massive. It's They're not some scrappy little upstart. And
Speaker 1: as for other places that are making low budget internet content,
Speaker 1: I'm sure that that is another part of the negotiations.
Speaker 1: That's own separate thing. In fact, we have ultra low
Speaker 1: budget agreements um for different types of projects. So there's
Speaker 1: absolutely no reason why you should be looking at new
Speaker 1: media and trying to fit it under a one stop deal, right,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just really honestly, the only thing
Speaker 1: that I the thing I've been thinking a lot about
Speaker 1: is how most of the new media places, they are
Speaker 1: hesitant to embrace these things, see themselves as like disruptors
Speaker 1: in the industry, and what that means is that they're
Speaker 1: backed by like tech companies, they're backed by VC funding,
Speaker 1: and more often than not, they're totally not generating the
Speaker 1: profits that they thought they would, and they want to
Speaker 1: stay in this business, you know, continuing to squeeze as
Speaker 1: much content as they can to recoup their losses. We've
Speaker 1: seen so much. You know, Quimby, they were like too
Speaker 1: short for us to pay you union wages look like that.
Speaker 1: That's basically what that was. There's a lot of that
Speaker 1: going on in new media, UM and I think that's
Speaker 1: going to be the biggest sticking point this time around,
Speaker 1: because if if the corporations lose that, that's that's really
Speaker 1: the easiest way for them to be exploiting us. There's
Speaker 1: so many places that have new media arms that are
Speaker 1: traditional places to like any of these companies are owned
Speaker 1: by just bigger companies too, and all of them will
Speaker 1: be soon if they aren't. Yeah, they Yeah, they're finding
Speaker 1: loopholes to make things like that that are like, well,
Speaker 1: it's just a it's a TV show you're making and
Speaker 1: you're calling it new media. Yeah. All the while that
Speaker 1: this is happening, I feel like I'm just constantly inundated
Speaker 1: with headlines about how well the companies are doing, Like
Speaker 1: everybody's home because it's COVID. Everybody is getting an Utflix
Speaker 1: subscription we have, we're getting record profits. And that's such
Speaker 1: a good point because what you're actually you're making all
Speaker 1: that money and you're they're producing things again, we're shooting
Speaker 1: things again, and every person that we've discussed today is
Speaker 1: showing up to set and they're putting themselves at at
Speaker 1: risk to make a TV show so you can watch
Speaker 1: it at home. And I have shot a couple of
Speaker 1: things during COVID and it's not fun. It is hard,
Speaker 1: like it is fifty times harder, and uh, it's hard
Speaker 1: to test, it's hard to coordinate where people go. It's
Speaker 1: hard to be lifting things and moving around with masks.
Speaker 1: Everybody's stressed. Um, it's where do you sit to have
Speaker 1: your own space where it's incredibly complicated. And so while
Speaker 1: they're making all of this money, you're putting your workers
Speaker 1: at risk and keeping them in absurdly long hours and
Speaker 1: not paying them enough. That's the thing, you know. I
Speaker 1: have a friends who works at a studio who mentioned
Speaker 1: to me, you that's something that they were talking about
Speaker 1: on a business Affairs called recently about this was that
Speaker 1: IATs he is using COVID as an excuse to make
Speaker 1: it seem like this is a problem when it's not.
Speaker 1: And it's because I'm on set right now. Like we
Speaker 1: wear masks every day, we test every other day. It's grueling. Um.
Speaker 1: We haven't had a single COVID outbreak and it's really hard. Um.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, if you look at like
Speaker 1: the l A County list of office outbreaks, it's like
Speaker 1: all TV shows Young Pelton had like twenty nine COVID
Speaker 1: outbreaks last year. That's because kims are filled with germs. Completely,
Speaker 1: it's totally Yeah. I mean it's crazy. And the least
Speaker 1: we're asking for his protections during this time. Um. And
Speaker 1: even that, it's like, you know, but we need to
Speaker 1: make TV uh. And I think one thing that's really
Speaker 1: unique about IoTs is that when the w g A
Speaker 1: went on strike, there was kind of a backlog of
Speaker 1: content that people could still shoot. You know, scripts that
Speaker 1: were written can be shot and edited and aired. Um.
Speaker 1: Now basically everybody involved in the process is gone. Um.
Speaker 1: If we go on strike, I truly think that the
Speaker 1: entire industry would grind to a halt. UM, I don't
Speaker 1: see how it wouldn't write. It's almost everybody you would
Speaker 1: think that that's uh, incredible leverage right now. So it
Speaker 1: is disappointing. I will say that, you know, you're currently
Speaker 1: at a situation where they seem very far away from
Speaker 1: where you guys are. Yeah, I honestly have no idea.
Speaker 1: You know, they they're not legally allowed to talk to
Speaker 1: members about, um, what's happening in negotiations. UM. So it's
Speaker 1: really you're putting a lot of faith in your union leadership.
Speaker 1: But it's nice for me at least. It's reassuring to
Speaker 1: know that there are like twelve different union leaders all
Speaker 1: there in that room. Um, because they're all standing together.
Speaker 1: I like to imagine that there's like one studio guy
Speaker 1: who's just really scared. I think there's more than one. UM. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean the picture you're painting is pretty inspiring too,
Speaker 1: of of how everybody is coming together and you know
Speaker 1: the magnitude of what this would be as the first
Speaker 1: you know, industry right wide strike from my ATSI, UM,
Speaker 1: do you know have any timeline as to when they
Speaker 1: think that they might start coming to some decisions? You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know now that the contract has expired. It's
Speaker 1: anybody's guests. They can keep extending negotiations. Um. But obviously
Speaker 1: a strike authorization is also a big deal. So and
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of unions involved, so it might take
Speaker 1: some time for that to even them. I don't think
Speaker 1: we're going to strike like tomorrow, but um, maybe by
Speaker 1: the time this airs will be on strike. Who knows. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: do you have anything else to add that we should
Speaker 1: know about this right now? Some other hot details, salacious tidbits,
Speaker 1: trying there's there's just not that much goss um. Uh m,
Speaker 1: you don't have to. This has also been wonderful. Um.
Speaker 1: I'm personally looking forward to uh getting a scabby of
Speaker 1: the rat costume and standing fox for twelve hours a day.
Speaker 1: If this happens, I'll come help, I'll come. He have
Speaker 1: bathroom breaks, yeah, at least you'll have something breaks, um, Olga,
Speaker 1: it was really nice chatting with you. We are going
Speaker 1: to be following this closely and maybe UM invite you
Speaker 1: back in the future as this develops, and if you
Speaker 1: felt comfortable and wanted to talk about it, um, and
Speaker 1: go ahead and plug yourself online if you want for
Speaker 1: our listeners. If they wanted to follow you for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can find me on Twitter at at Ronaldo run
Speaker 1: dot com. No at want to read you that. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can find me on Twitter and at RONALDA. Runs.
Speaker 1: Should you want any hot goss. I know by the way,
Speaker 1: you're just the negotiations and we're we're allowed to spit
Speaker 1: out all the goths. So we'll circle back just for that,
Speaker 1: just for that. Um, alright, cool, thank you, thank you,
Speaker 1: welcome at together everything, So don't don't can you olga
Speaker 1: again for joining us? Keep keep on keeping on, keep
Speaker 1: on holding back your labor hopefully. Actually, well are we
Speaker 1: just running with that all right? Yeah? I mean, like
Speaker 1: speaking of labor stuff, actually, um, uh in Portland starting
Speaker 1: in like August ten was the uh was the Nibisco
Speaker 1: strike that is still ongoing and it's spread to other cities.
Speaker 1: Such a good point. That's that's still happening. Um. We
Speaker 1: definitely should have talked about that by now. Yeah. It's
Speaker 1: it's I'm not sure if you have on the schorlarity,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's the it's the it's the first major
Speaker 1: strike since nineteen sixty nine for UM, specifically Nibbisco. UM.
Speaker 1: It's spread to like four like five other major cities
Speaker 1: started here in Portland. Um, you know, we got so cool.
Speaker 1: The whole Danny, the whole Danny DeVito thing happened last
Speaker 1: month with Twitter unverifying him after he's tweeted at support.
Speaker 1: We've had you know, senators like Bernie Sanders, um, and
Speaker 1: you know a lot a lot of other people including
Speaker 1: including Organs ones you know, support the strikers. Uh. Portland
Speaker 1: police have come out and you know, taken away strikers.
Speaker 1: Nibisco has hired like an armed security force to harass
Speaker 1: and they've actually sort of attacking people who are striking. Um.
Speaker 1: But this is a still ongoing thing, right, It's been
Speaker 1: going on for almost Yeah, it's been going on for
Speaker 1: over a month now, UM, and we'll see what happened,
Speaker 1: I think. Yeah, so very good to keep in mind.
Speaker 1: I don't have it in front of me, but you
Speaker 1: guys should look this up, uh, and just check out
Speaker 1: all the different brands and companies owned Oreos a lot
Speaker 1: Oreo chips, Ahoy, Ritz crackers, UM, A lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of these snack foods are just like the just
Speaker 1: like the Freed de Las thing from you know earlier
Speaker 1: this year. A lot of these companies are the same company. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so do your due diligence. I'm really hungry and listing
Speaker 1: off all these foods Katie. Also, don't eat, don't eat Newton's,
Speaker 1: don't eat wheat. Things, don't eat tiskets, don't eat rice. Things,
Speaker 1: don't eat bovida, don't eat time. You're making me, You're
Speaker 1: making me so hungry. I have to saltine crack they own.
Speaker 1: So it's a lot. Maybe this is maybe this is
Speaker 1: part of all the same problems, just like supply chains,
Speaker 1: of making all of these same things reliant on so
Speaker 1: many different parts because all the same company and the
Speaker 1: same problem. Anyways, walls come tumbling down, and walls come
Speaker 1: tumbling and tumbling. I want Katie's energy today. It's infections. Anyways.
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