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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: All Right, second hour play in book Stark's right now,

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Speaker 2: and we were having a discussion that we can finish

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Speaker 2: up here. I think I can get back to some

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Speaker 2: Biden business and maybe even mentioned that the Governor of

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Speaker 2: New York has announced surveillance efforts in the state of

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Speaker 2: New York by government employees to collect data on hate

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Speaker 2: online to try to counter it. That is disconcerting. You

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Speaker 2: don't usually want to hear about government monitoring of speech

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Speaker 2: to make sure that they're there to counter the speech.

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Speaker 2: Not really the job of government, no matter what the

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Speaker 2: speech in terms of the content may be. But in

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Speaker 2: New York you have one of the least capable governors

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Speaker 2: is saying that that's what they are doing. We also

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Speaker 2: have some moments in the exchanges over the Israel Hamas war,

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Speaker 2: including Piers Morgan asking left wing British politician Jeremy Corbin

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Speaker 2: whether Hamas is a terror group. You'll want to hear

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Speaker 2: how that goes down, and AOC demanding a cease fire.

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Speaker 2: Of course, we're also going to have in the third

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Speaker 2: hour Congressman Tim Burchett, who says he got elbowed by

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Speaker 2: Kevin McCarthy in the back. Right. I mean, am I

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Speaker 2: saying this right? I mean, am I getting the details

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Speaker 2: right here? This is just coming in. We'll have him

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Speaker 2: join us to talk about Wait now we have congressmen

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Speaker 2: literally throwing elbows, not not just metaphorically speaking, So we

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Speaker 2: shall discuss that. But all right, so Clay got you know,

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Speaker 2: he wanted to finish up this discussion. I thought it

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Speaker 2: was interesting. Yeah, there's two things in the world, well

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Speaker 2: a few things in the world of entertainment that are

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Speaker 2: catching people's attention. One is that the Snow White Woke

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Speaker 2: remake is looking like it's going to cost three hundred

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Speaker 2: million dollars. Then is a total disaster, and they have

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Speaker 2: laid the release for a year. A three hundred million

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Speaker 2: dollar movie. Everybody that is almost certainly going to be cracked, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean I would put, well, you've got more from

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Speaker 2: me on this.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, I was just gonna say, yes, that

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Speaker 1: is that one is the Disney thing you mentioned, the Marvels.

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Speaker 1: I've got the data on that to give me that

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Speaker 1: data from this article.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So they have made. This is the thirty third.

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Speaker 1: Superhero movie, and I bet I have seen the Travis

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Speaker 1: family have seen all thirty three collectively, because my boys

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Speaker 1: go see all these superhero movies. This one, though, buck

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Speaker 1: is called The Marvels, and it's about a trio of

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Speaker 1: female superheroes whose powers become entangled. Yeah, Brie Larson, Tiona Parris,

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Speaker 1: and Emon Velani.

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Speaker 2: It's a white woman, black woman, and like Asian woman.

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Speaker 1: I mean it is the most clearly cloyingly diverse Leyden

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Speaker 1: for purposes of diversity and not story movie that Marvel

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Speaker 1: has made. It cost three hundred million dollars to make.

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Speaker 1: It made forty seven million dollars in ticket sales this

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Speaker 1: past weekend, the lowest ever opening for a Marvel release.

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Speaker 2: Uh. This guy, who is a.

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Speaker 1: Film consultant and ticket sales expert quoted here, says this

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Speaker 1: opening is an unprecedented Marvel box office collapse.

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Speaker 2: Until now.

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Speaker 1: The Incredible Hulk, which was released in two thousand and eight,

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Speaker 1: was the studio's worst debut. It did almost double what

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Speaker 2: And I think that Incredible Hulk movie was leaked online

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Speaker 2: if I remember before it actually hit the theaters. Do

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Speaker 2: you remember this is back when online piracy was this.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I remember that yet, and I watched that movie.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think it was as bad as everybody said that.

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Speaker 2: Ed Norton played the incredible Hulk, right Norton When I'm

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Speaker 2: thinking the Eric Banna one that came out, maybe that

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Speaker 1: But the point on this is to you're building snow

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Speaker 2: And now that they had to.

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Speaker 1: Stop doing Star Wars movies because they got so woke,

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Speaker 1: everybody was like, screw this. They just had the funny

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Speaker 1: south Park thing where Kathleen Kennedy, who was in charge

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Speaker 1: of all these movies, got ridiculed and they they did

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Speaker 1: what's going on. This woke reinvention of popular film has

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. If if your primary, if your

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Speaker 2: primary mission is to entertain, that entertain people, that is

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Speaker 2: I've been kind of involved in the very early stage

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Speaker 2: don't even get made into pilots right or if they

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Speaker 2: that we're seeking to entertain, when you decide that it's

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Speaker 2: I want to cast the most diverse version of you know,

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Speaker 2: be ever made and the remakes. Also, another thing you

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Speaker 2: if you're gonna make these diverse films or diverse movie,

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Speaker 2: it would just be create something new, but there's this

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Speaker 2: desire to always go back, I think, and make the diverse,

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Speaker 2: that that then brings up this I do. It's Antoine

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Speaker 2: done some good stuff. He did Training Day. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Washington is an excellent actorate with world class. Like Clay said,

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Speaker 2: he'll do an excellent job as Hannibal. The Hannibal story

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Speaker 2: is absolutely incredible. He's one of the five greatest generals.

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Speaker 2: I think you could argue of all time based on

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Speaker 2: what he was able to do and just going around

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Speaker 2: you don't have to be paralyzed to play a paralyzed character,

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Speaker 2: right Like, let's not get crazy.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to be fat to play a fat person.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to be to play a trans person.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that there have been there have been people who

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Speaker 2: make believe, Okay, so we start from that premise. It

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Speaker 2: is make believe in it is entertainment. The only thing

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Speaker 2: more interest in it. Uh, And it's a fascinating period

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Speaker 2: and that's what they've thought of instead of one of

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Speaker 2: I also think that people should one know the correct

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Speaker 1: I think the Hamilton and now so there's a great

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Speaker 2: So I have no question. Did you like Hamilton? I

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Speaker 1: I've said before my big issue is I don't like musicals.

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Speaker 1: So I just every time I understand that you can say,

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Speaker 2: He's gonna fight it the whole way. Yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 2: If you have like four hours to kill, the opera

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Speaker 1: I thought it was fine, Like I like the production

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Speaker 1: to go see the new Harry Potter like cursing Child.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty good. Not a musical, by

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Speaker 1: the way. But if you did a country and western

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Speaker 1: version of the Obama administration instead of a rap version

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Speaker 1: of Alexander Hamilton country and Western version of the Obama administration,

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Speaker 1: their mind. Now, I think it would actually be really

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Speaker 1: really funny to do a country in what version of

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Speaker 1: and how corrupt it is, they won't answer. And I'll

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Speaker 1: give you a good example. There isn't a single person

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Speaker 1: on the left in this country who can explain why

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Speaker 1: it is heroic to change your gender, but it's racist

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Speaker 1: to change your race.

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Speaker 2: They can't answer that.

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Speaker 1: You could sit down with anybody if Joe Biden would

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Speaker 1: ever come on this show. I don't think Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: could even answer. Joe Biden, you've said many times it

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Speaker 1: is very courageous. Some of the bravest people you know,

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Speaker 1: even Joe Biden, you said, are kids who decide that

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Speaker 1: they're a different sex than what they were born.

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Speaker 2: You said, that's brave, You said, that's courageous. Why would it.

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Speaker 1: Be racist for them to decide that they're a different

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Speaker 1: race than what they were born? To me, you could

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Speaker 1: ask certain questions that go to the very heart of

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Speaker 1: what the left claims to stand for in America today

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Speaker 1: and around the world in many respects in Western democracies,

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Speaker 1: and they can't speak truthfully.

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Speaker 2: This is like at ESPN, buck.

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Speaker 1: If most people at ESPN won't say that men shouldn't

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Speaker 1: compete against women in athletics, they won't say it. They

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Speaker 1: all know that shouldn't happen. They won't answer it. And

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Speaker 1: that to me is very illuminating. When you get asked

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Speaker 1: a question that is very much the essence of what

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Speaker 1: you believe and you won't answer it.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, it's a sign of the failure of the party.

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Speaker 1: And I think of what it represents is that identity

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Speaker 1: politics destroys everything that it touches because eventually logic corrupts it.

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Speaker 1: And I think that clip is fantastic for that reason. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and if you can't, if you can't answer the most

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Speaker 1: straightforward questions about a belief that you have that is

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Speaker 1: passionately held, I think it's worth asking why. And then

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Speaker 1: we have I mentioned the AOC wing. Here's aoc at

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Speaker 1: a quote Rabbis for ceasefire rally.

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Speaker 2: This is fifteen play it.

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Speaker 5: Ceasefire means there is no military solution, only a diplomatic

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Speaker 5: and cultural solution, national solution, a reckoning with ourselves in

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Speaker 5: our history.

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Speaker 2: That is what cease fire now means. No, there's a

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Speaker 2: military solution. You're gonna have to kill every member of

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Speaker 2: Hamas that was involved in this attack and every part

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Speaker 2: of the leadership. You either imprison them or kill them,

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Speaker 2: or else you're gonna get hit again. So she's just wrong.

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Speaker 2: I mean this. I imagine saying, guys, we don't need

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Speaker 2: to get bin Laden and the al Qaedeze in your leadership,

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Speaker 2: and we don't need to shut down the training camps.

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Speaker 2: We need a cultural solution, and we should have a

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Speaker 2: ceasefire after nine to eleven.

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Speaker 1: Not only nine to eleven. Imagine right after the we

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Speaker 1: got bombed at Pearl Harbor. I almost said to Germans

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Speaker 1: like it was a a great movie back in the

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Speaker 1: day Animal House. After we got bombed at Pearl Harbor

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Speaker 1: by Japan. Can you imagine if Franklin Roosevelt had said,

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Speaker 1: you know, instead of today is a day that will

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Speaker 1: live in infamy and announced that we will go to

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Speaker 1: war with Germany and Japan and everybody else. What if

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Speaker 1: he had just said, hey, you know, yes they just

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Speaker 1: blew up all of our Pacific fleet and it was

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Speaker 1: a completely dastardly, unprecedented attack.

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Speaker 2: But we just have to turn the other cheek. Japan

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Speaker 2: isn't our enemy.

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Speaker 1: Going to war with the Nazis and the imperialist powers

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Speaker 1: in Japan is not going to solve anything.

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Speaker 2: We should just pretend this never happened.

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Speaker 1: I mean, can you imagine where we would be historically?

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Speaker 1: So I don't even think it's just using nine to eleven.

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Speaker 1: I think anytime you are the victim of an unprovoked attack,

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Speaker 1: you have an obligation, a moral responsibility to respond when

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Speaker 1: evil infringes itself upon the health and safety of your population.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you think that these Democrat politicians and pundits

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Speaker 2: and professors in this country, do you think that they'd

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Speaker 2: be able to look face to face the families of

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Speaker 2: the fourteen hundred, including women, children, the elderly babies who

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Speaker 2: are brutally murdered, and say, you know what we really

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Speaker 2: need right now a ceasefire. You know, I think that

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Speaker 2: this is just they're posturing for political reasons here out

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Speaker 2: of a combination of a few things, a lot of them.

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Speaker 2: It's under the surface anti semitism, it's a misunderstanding of

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Speaker 2: this conflict, which is about civilization versus barbarism. It is

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Speaker 2: not about some dispute over land anymore. And I think

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Speaker 2: beyond that, they are virtue signaling on the graves of

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Speaker 2: fourteen hundred dead Israelis. It's appalling what they're doing, pretending

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Speaker 2: that somehow Israel is not allowed to defend itself. A

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Speaker 2: cease fire is something that is very short, it is

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Speaker 2: very temporary usually, and what they want is actually an

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Speaker 2: immediate cessation of hostilities, effectively a truce. So what they

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Speaker 2: want is after a mass casualty, terror attack, a sneak attack,

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Speaker 2: then the fighting stops. I mean, imagine if someone walked

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Speaker 2: up to you in the bar, punched you in the face,

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Speaker 2: knocked out your teeth, and broke your nose, and then said,

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Speaker 2: hold on, let's give piece a chance. That's what they want.

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Speaker 1: Think about it too from this perspective, Buck, If you're wondering, okay,

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Speaker 1: some people are just their piece snicks, right Quakers, Quakers

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Speaker 1: are going to be pretty consistent. They're going to say, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I don't believe in war. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to be involved. Do you think any of the

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Speaker 1: AOC contingent Jamal Bowman, all of that universe that is

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Speaker 1: defending Hamas and defending Palestine. Do you think if Israel

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Speaker 1: had invaded the Gaza region and kidnapped hundreds of people

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Speaker 1: and murdered intentionally over one thousand people, and then the

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Speaker 1: Israeli soldiers had gone back to Israel and Hamas had

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Speaker 1: decided that they wanted to respond, do you think that

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Speaker 1: the aocs of the world and the Rashida ta Leaves

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Speaker 1: of the world would say, no, we need an immediate

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Speaker 1: cease fire. A response is not going to solve anything.

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Speaker 1: The problem they have buck is and this is what

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Speaker 1: identity politics creates. They can't conceive in their minds of

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Speaker 1: how brown people because that's how they see it, how

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Speaker 1: the Palestinians could be the bad guy because they bought

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Speaker 1: or anti white component of the left wing thinking on

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Speaker 1: this that overrides everything else that's right. They can't even

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Speaker 1: concept conceptualize, conceptualize the idea that a minority, a brown

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Speaker 1: person in this situation could have been the aggressor and

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Speaker 1: be evil. They can't conceive of basically bought into the

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Speaker 1: idea that whiteness equals evil.

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Speaker 2: And they don't understand all these anti Semites don't understand

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Speaker 2: that the Jews are Semitic people, yes, meaning from the

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Speaker 2: area and have been for a long time. And many

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Speaker 2: of them come from actually what are now Muslim dominated

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Speaker 2: Arab countries because they were kicked out. It is not

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Speaker 2: a country full of guys who are you know, full

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Speaker 2: of people who are all like Jerry Seinfeld. That's what

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Speaker 2: they don't understand.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and by the way, there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: Jews out there that don't understand how they're seen, right.

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Speaker 1: They see themselves as the oppressed, right, the minority, because

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Speaker 1: historically no one has been more oppressed probably than the

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Speaker 1: Jewish people throughout the history of humanity. And yet because

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Speaker 1: And I think there's a lot of Jewish people out

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Speaker 1: we were there for you with Black Lives Matter, we

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Speaker 1: We'll welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. We

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk with Tim Burchett, who is a

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Speaker 1: was doing an interview with a news media member. This

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Speaker 1: is now starting to go viral. We'll find out what

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Speaker 1: the story is there. Also in the Senate, Mark Wayne

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Speaker 1: Mullen from Oklahoma challenged a union member to a fight.

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Speaker 1: We'll play that audio for you in the next hour,

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Speaker 1: but in the meantime, yesterday Vivek Ramaswami was on the

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Speaker 1: show with us went after Nicki Haley pretty aggressive. We have,

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Speaker 1: by the way, extended and offered to Nicky Haley to

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Speaker 1: come on the show, as we always do.

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Speaker 2: I just drop in really quickly here. I have been

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Speaker 2: kind of thinking that Nikki Haley has been ducking this show,

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Speaker 2: so I've been making some jokes to that end, and

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Speaker 2: the team finally pointed out to me randomly she has

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Speaker 2: been on when I was on honeymoon and when I

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Speaker 2: was on vacation in Europe with Carrie and Scotland. That

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Speaker 2: is when she has come on that. Maybe there was

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Speaker 2: one other time, but like she.

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Speaker 1: Really had her on three times. But yeah, to your

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Speaker 1: point when you said I don't think she's been ducking

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Speaker 1: the show, I was like, I think I remember her

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Speaker 1: being on the show several times.

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Speaker 2: So I've been on two of the three. I might

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Speaker 2: have even missed three of the three. I don't remember

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Speaker 2: talking to her on this show.

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Speaker 1: But Nicky Haley on the show might be the equivalent

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Speaker 1: for you of the fact that Trump gets indicted every

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Speaker 1: time I go on vacation, Like.

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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, it's so funny. Clay's like, nothing's gonna happen

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Speaker 2: this Friday, Buck, You've got you got the reins, We'll

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Speaker 2: be fine, right, And then I get a text at

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Speaker 2: like one thirty pm Friday, He's like, I'm on the road.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna call in. Trump's Kennon indicted. I'm like, I know,

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's happened to every I think I've been

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Speaker 1: out every single time that Trump has been indicted. Just

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Speaker 1: so you know, maybe the Trump team needs to be

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Speaker 1: aware of this too. Thursday, they're doing the Patriot Awards

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Speaker 1: for Fox in Nashville, and I'm going to be doing

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Speaker 1: events all day with them, so I'm out in the

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Speaker 1: event that that happens, But I wanted to play. Vivek

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Speaker 1: went on Chris Cuomo's show yesterday after he went on

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Speaker 1: with us and really brought the two by four to

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Speaker 1: Cuomo as well.

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Speaker 4: Listen, Nikki Haley keeps kicking your ass in these debates.

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Speaker 2: Why going into the left wing media? Give me a

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Speaker 2: freaking break. You turn on social media. You understand people

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Speaker 2: watching that debate. I went to New Hampshire.

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Speaker 7: People were laughing at the idea of the mainstream media's

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Speaker 7: coverage of the New York Times columnists and people like

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Speaker 7: you who belong there with one narrative because you have

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Speaker 7: some identity politic vision of what you think the leader

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Speaker 7: of this country jam.

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Speaker 2: This country.

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Speaker 7: Well, the fact of the matter is you guys have

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Speaker 7: made a career out of deciding that the America First

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Speaker 7: Agenda is not the future of this country.

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Speaker 2: Kick that out of the Republican Party.

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Speaker 7: Put a genteel version that you can control as your

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Speaker 7: little puppet.

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Speaker 2: So American politics looks the way you want it to.

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Speaker 1: WHOA and then he also accused him of covering up his.

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Speaker 2: Brothers to foremost credit, he said, of course I covered

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Speaker 2: up for my brother. I gotta say loyalty to family,

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Speaker 2: can't I can't hate on anybody for that. You stay loyal.

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Speaker 2: You stay loyal to your family, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: And we will talk with Tim Burchett when we come back.

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Speaker 1: And there are several other stories out there too that

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Speaker 1: we're going to dive into during the course of the

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Speaker 1: third hour, including Buck. If you've seen this story out

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Speaker 1: of Nashville, it's got me fired up. Another story from

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Speaker 1: my hometown. A Nashville DA led a man free after

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Speaker 1: he shot into a car full of children.

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Speaker 2: Guess what happened.

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Speaker 1: Guy out on the street fires again, kills an eighteen

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Speaker 1: year old college freshman out for job.

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Speaker 2: Crazy