WEBVTT - Time Does NOT Heal All Wounds

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<v Speaker 1>In order to make it to this meeting, I left Durango, Colorado,

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen hours ago and had a six hour drive to

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<v Speaker 1>the airport, a three hour flight, a forty five minute

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<v Speaker 1>walk from the terminal to baggage claim, an hour and

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<v Speaker 1>a half drive from the airport to the hotel. Then

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<v Speaker 1>I got to the hotel and wasn't allowed to check

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<v Speaker 1>in until later, even though I was absolutely tired. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't sleep overnight for all of those reasons, But the

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<v Speaker 1>reason I did it was because working with my producer

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<v Speaker 1>for this podcast is important, and producing the best podcast

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<v Speaker 1>we can is important. Having a strong relationship with my

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<v Speaker 1>producer is important. But that meant I was gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to be a little bit uncomfortable. I'm gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>be tired for a little bit longer than I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to be. So we think we don't have enough time

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<v Speaker 1>because there's not enough minutes in the day, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>actually not true. There are lots of minutes in the day,

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<v Speaker 1>but we prioritize our own comfort. The easiest thing for

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<v Speaker 1>me to do today, after a long travel day, literally

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<v Speaker 1>about eighteen hours from door in Durango to door in

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<v Speaker 1>New York City, the easiest thing for me to do

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<v Speaker 1>to keep myself comfortable when I got to my hotel room,

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<v Speaker 1>take a shower to wash off the travel, and go

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep. The hardest thing for me to do is

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<v Speaker 1>to fight the urge to go to sleep, stay awake,

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<v Speaker 1>stay focused, stay alert. But I did that because that

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<v Speaker 1>is more in line with the person that I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be. So when you're on a healing journey, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to make more decisions that are in line with

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<v Speaker 1>the person that you want to be. And understand that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to come with some sacrifice, that's going to come

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<v Speaker 1>with some uncomfort, that's going to come with some difficulties,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's the good difficulty. It's the kind of difficulty

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<v Speaker 1>that's in line with who you want to be. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a difference between hard and hard, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it was hard for me to stay awake in

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<v Speaker 1>extra ninety minutes to make sure I was alert and

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<v Speaker 1>available during this meeting. But that's a good heart because

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<v Speaker 1>that's me doing something that I'm proud of, that's meaningful

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<v Speaker 1>to me, that's important to me. And I think we

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<v Speaker 1>have this excuse like, oh, there's just not enough time

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<v Speaker 1>in the day, but the actual truth is you're just

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<v Speaker 1>in love with you with being comfortable, and you're not

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<v Speaker 1>willing to suffer. You're not willing to sacrifice, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>willing to grind, You're not willing to be uncomfortable, because

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<v Speaker 1>if you were, then that's how you make something a priority.

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<v Speaker 1>We think making a priority means we create more time,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's not true. Making something a priority is you

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<v Speaker 1>accept more uncomfort. You can go to the gym and exercise,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you have a trainer, you're going to go

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<v Speaker 1>a bit further because they're going to push you further

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<v Speaker 1>into your uncomfort. They're going to push you beyond your

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<v Speaker 1>comfort zone. So can you identify your own behaviors and patterns?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course you can. Can you pay attention to them,

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<v Speaker 1>of course you can. But who's going to hold you

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<v Speaker 1>accountable to change them? And who's going to hold you

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<v Speaker 1>accountable to do the difficult work associated with changing them.

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<v Speaker 1>That's literally the whole entire point of psychotherapy is so

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<v Speaker 1>that you can go further beyond your comfort zone and

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<v Speaker 1>further into your healing journey while being held accountable, while

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<v Speaker 1>being supported, while being pushed in a healthy way, to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to change the kind of patterns that are

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<v Speaker 1>causing problems in your life. Up until this point, we

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<v Speaker 1>have learned a great deal about each one of these

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<v Speaker 1>family members. Who is Jay. Jay is a strong, strong woman,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think Jay is such a strong and independent

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<v Speaker 1>woman because she's had to learn how to live her

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<v Speaker 1>life without praise, or at least consistent praise, and without

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<v Speaker 1>support from someone around her. And she's learned how to

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<v Speaker 1>succeed on her own without those things, which is an

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly rare trait. Jay is also someone I think that

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<v Speaker 1>takes her unbelievable gifts and strengths for granted and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of expects everyone to function at her level. Jame's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most fascinating people that I've ever met, because

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<v Speaker 1>almost every time we spoke, I learned something fantastically new

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<v Speaker 1>about Jay that I didn't know in the previous sessions.

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<v Speaker 1>I learned about degrees she had gotten, roles she had

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<v Speaker 1>played in the military, some amazing accomplishment she had a

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<v Speaker 1>tieved in her life. It blew me away. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think sometimes Jay expects everybody to function at her level

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<v Speaker 1>because and not in a mean way, but I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't I don't always think Jay recognizes her own greatness

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<v Speaker 1>and how unique it is for her to be so great,

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<v Speaker 1>and she thinks everyone should function at that level. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's important to recognize your own uniqueness and your

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<v Speaker 1>own gifts and your own traits for a couple of reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one, because it allows you to build your own

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<v Speaker 1>self esteem and your own self like sense of self value.

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<v Speaker 1>But it also allows you to be more patient and

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<v Speaker 1>understanding with the people around you because you start recognizing

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<v Speaker 1>your own uniqueness and not holding people accountable to your level,

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<v Speaker 1>and will allow everybody around you to be who they are.

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<v Speaker 1>In a previous session, I asked jaa write down some

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that she's good at. Here are a

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<v Speaker 1>few that she shared with me.

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<v Speaker 2>I show up for others, A good listener, good at

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<v Speaker 2>encouraging others, good at helping people with their finances, a

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<v Speaker 2>good mom, oh, good at taking risk, and good at

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<v Speaker 2>taking care of my plants.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you know you're a good listener.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I feel like when I have conversations with people,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not one sided, like we talk, we listen to

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<v Speaker 2>each other, and we're both like we're both engaged in

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation. At least with most people. I feel that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Most of my well, all my friends, I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>and that I just I mean, like I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>when I'm talking to a friend or a family member

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<v Speaker 2>and we're having a conversation, I don't just wait to speak,

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<v Speaker 2>like I try to really hear what they're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you enjoy that about yourself?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Excellent? Okay? And how do you know that you're good

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<v Speaker 1>with helping your friends with their finances?

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<v Speaker 2>Because people usually ask me for that kind of insight,

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<v Speaker 2>So I imagine that I'm good at it if they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be asking if I wasn't if I was bad at it?

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<v Speaker 1>What is it about you that lets them know you're

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of person that they can ask that.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it's something that I talk about as a topic

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<v Speaker 2>that I bring up. And I know a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people don't like to talk about money, but I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I like to talk about it. I like to help

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<v Speaker 2>people think about budgeting and ways to invest their money

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<v Speaker 2>and give them ideas, and they seem to be receptive

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<v Speaker 2>of it self.

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<v Speaker 1>Reflection is just the ability to look at yourself and

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<v Speaker 1>have an honest look at yourself. Are you doing the

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<v Speaker 1>things you want to be doing? Are you pleased with

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<v Speaker 1>who you are? And what you're doing. Are you in

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<v Speaker 1>line with your goals, hopes and dreams and living the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of life that you'd like to live. Judgment is

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<v Speaker 1>very different because judgment is when you add value to

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<v Speaker 1>those things which leads to a negative place. Like for example,

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<v Speaker 1>I can look at myself and say, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't eat the things that I should be eating,

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<v Speaker 1>So tomorrow I'm going to do better. That's just a

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<v Speaker 1>self reflection. So judgment has a value attached to it,

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<v Speaker 1>and that value can be positive or negative, but is

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<v Speaker 1>usually negative. And I'll give you an example. If I

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<v Speaker 1>am thinking to myself, all right, you know what, I

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<v Speaker 1>had a long travel day. I ate a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>fast food. I ate a lot of greasy, gross food.

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<v Speaker 1>Not really pleased with that. So tomorrow I got to

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<v Speaker 1>do better and make sure I get back on the

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<v Speaker 1>rhythm that I want to be on. That's just a

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<v Speaker 1>self reflection. The judgment becomes and now I'm really disappointed

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<v Speaker 1>in myself. I could have and should have done better,

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<v Speaker 1>and that actually demotivates us. That leads to us actually

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<v Speaker 1>not growing and feeling good, and it makes it harder

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<v Speaker 1>for us to get back on track. So self reflection

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<v Speaker 1>is simply the analysis of how am I doing and

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<v Speaker 1>what do I need to change? Judgment attaches a value

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<v Speaker 1>to it, and that value usually leads towards problems.

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<v Speaker 2>I realized after doing some self reflecting, like the way

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up, I felt like my mom really never

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<v Speaker 2>paid me any mind. So I don't know if that's

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<v Speaker 2>like because I'm a third child or the oldest girl.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not really sure why she's kind of aloof in

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<v Speaker 2>that way anyway, but I always felt like, no matter

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<v Speaker 2>where I was in the world, she really didn't I

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<v Speaker 2>won't say she didn't care, but she never expressed to

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<v Speaker 2>me that my presence was important to her. So because

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<v Speaker 2>of that, there's like this piece of me that likes

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<v Speaker 2>to be acknowledged and likes to be you know. So

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<v Speaker 2>I just like to feel like, Okay, you care that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm actually here.

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<v Speaker 1>Having the ability to visualize and focus on a future

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<v Speaker 1>that has not yet occurred is everything. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>so incredibly important. If you can can't see it, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't be it. I think we all believe in the

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<v Speaker 1>power of manifestation, and those things happen for people who

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<v Speaker 1>are really focused on what they want to achieve and

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<v Speaker 1>what they want to have, and most people don't. Most

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<v Speaker 1>people are just kind of living life. Most people pay

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<v Speaker 1>more attention to what they don't want versus what they

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<v Speaker 1>do want. So when you see me talking to jay

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<v Speaker 1>in that way, I'm asking her like, I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to envision the life that you want, and the more

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<v Speaker 1>you can envision it, the more likely you are to

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<v Speaker 1>have it. And that's an incredibly important skilly Where do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to be? Like if you made an investment

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden boom, you've got enough money

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<v Speaker 1>to go out of middle class? Like, where do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to be?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I want to be a millionaire by the time

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<v Speaker 2>forty five, that's my goal. I don't need you need

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<v Speaker 2>forty two. So I got a lot of work to.

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<v Speaker 1>Do, But that's cool. You got a lot of time.

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<v Speaker 2>I got like less than three years because I'll be

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<v Speaker 2>forty three in a few months. But I think it's possible.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that I don't want to have like ten million.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good with like a cool million liquid, two million

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<v Speaker 2>networth something around here. That's the goal at least, Where.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Jayleen gonna live when she's got a million liquid

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<v Speaker 1>and another million in.

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<v Speaker 2>Assets on a farm?

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<v Speaker 1>Jaylen. For whatever reason, that is not what I expect

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<v Speaker 1>you to to say. Where will this farm be?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe Georgia, North Carolina?

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<v Speaker 3>What mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>So Jalen works her butt off and by forty by

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<v Speaker 1>forty five, she's got a million dollars liqu with a

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars in assets. You're telling me that you would

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<v Speaker 1>move to the country and buy a farm.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Why does that sound so attractive to you? What is

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<v Speaker 1>it about that that that's appealing?

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<v Speaker 2>The idea of simplifying life and not necessarily making not

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<v Speaker 2>to say that people that live on farms have a

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<v Speaker 2>simple life, and the sense that is not challenging but

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<v Speaker 2>simple in the sense that it's quieter, it's slower, it's

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<v Speaker 2>an ability to be closer to nature. That is what

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<v Speaker 2>I want. I don't like city life. I haven't liked

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<v Speaker 2>it for a very long time. I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like pollution, a lot of people, a lot of cars.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like any of that stuff. I much rather

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<v Speaker 2>look outside and see trees versus people.

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<v Speaker 1>My gosh, I don't know why, but that is not

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<v Speaker 1>what I thought you would say.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think I want? Like a condo?

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean you know. I know that you grew

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<v Speaker 1>up in New Jersey, you live in New Jersey. So

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you'd say, like the upper west side of

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<v Speaker 1>manhatt you know what I mean. I thought you'd say

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<v Speaker 1>something Park Avenue, you know, something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I want the complete opposite of that.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you say farm, I naturally start thinking animals.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want animals on your land?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I don't want not a lot of animals, like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not trying to raise cows or anything like that,

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<v Speaker 2>but chickens maybe something like some among those lines.

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<v Speaker 1>M And do you want a relationship in that future?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? Absolutely, And I.

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<v Speaker 1>Guess by the time you forty five, the boys will

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<v Speaker 1>still be young. How pleased would you be to be

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<v Speaker 1>raising your boys on a farm versus in the city.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love that. I would absolutely love that. I

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<v Speaker 2>would love for them to go in their backyard and

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<v Speaker 2>grab vegetables for dinner, or you know, to be outside

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<v Speaker 2>with me when I'm toiling dirt and taking care of animals, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I would love that. I think kids need that, they

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<v Speaker 2>need to be close to nature. Yeah, I would love that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that would be beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>How much of your hard work that you're doing is

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<v Speaker 1>to like manifest that in your future. One day.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say it's a significant part, but that is

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<v Speaker 2>something that I absolutely want, but it's us. The farm

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<v Speaker 2>part is something that I really want. But I also

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<v Speaker 2>really want to set my children up so that they

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<v Speaker 2>are financially stable. I know people talk about generational wealth

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<v Speaker 2>all the time and it's like the cats phrase, but like,

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<v Speaker 2>I truly believe in it, and I want them to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to pursue their dreams without wondering about how

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to pay back student loans or I got

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<v Speaker 2>to get this job so that I can afford to

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<v Speaker 2>pay my bills. I hate that, like I hate that

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<v Speaker 2>that's the situation for so many people. I want them

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to pursue, you know, whatever it is

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<v Speaker 2>that they want to do. I want them to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to do it without you know, the restrictions of

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<v Speaker 2>money kind of limiting them. I don't want them to

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<v Speaker 2>take jobs because they have bills to pay. I want

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<v Speaker 2>them to take the job that is going to let

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<v Speaker 2>them be amazing and to do what they want, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever their heart is. I so that is the bigger goal.

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<v Speaker 2>If I can get a farm and do that hashtag winning, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think that that's true. I'm surprised that it's a farm.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you can have all those things, I imagine

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<v Speaker 1>you would be feeling like you're winning. Right for sure?

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<v Speaker 1>What kind of relationship do you want and forgetting who

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<v Speaker 1>it might be, whether it's you know whatever, like some

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<v Speaker 1>specific person or not, Like, tell me the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>relationship you want to live in right on this ridiculous

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<v Speaker 1>farm of yours.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I want him to be someone that I respect

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<v Speaker 2>and that respects me, and someone where we encourage each

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<v Speaker 2>other and feed into each other on a daily basis.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I want some one that I show love to

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<v Speaker 2>be willingly and fully without ever questioning how much love

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<v Speaker 2>are they going to show me back? Like I want

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<v Speaker 2>to just be able to pour out to someone that

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<v Speaker 2>I have no apprehensions about doing that because I know

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to pour into me and return, So my

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<v Speaker 2>cup is never going to be empty because no matter

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<v Speaker 2>how much I give this person, they're given back. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's you know, it's that love of reciprocity is there.

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<v Speaker 2>I would like it to be just a really loving,

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<v Speaker 2>encouraging relationship where I see the God in him, and

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<v Speaker 2>he sees the God in me, and we nourish that,

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<v Speaker 2>and we don't, you know, kind of fall victim to

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<v Speaker 2>some of the day to day things because we truly

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<v Speaker 2>see value in one another. And somebody that I can

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<v Speaker 2>work hand in hand with on this farm, so he

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have to be alone, rugged gonna have to like

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<v Speaker 2>dirt a little bit. Yeah, So I think those are

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<v Speaker 2>the foundation.

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<v Speaker 1>And you said like they would pour into me. What's

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<v Speaker 1>your favorite way for a romantic partner to pour into you? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what does a romantic partner need to do to make

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<v Speaker 1>you feel really loved and really valued?

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<v Speaker 2>Mhm. I think verbal is part of it. The communication

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<v Speaker 2>is definitely key, but not just I guess, not just

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<v Speaker 2>the verbal piece, but I do really really enjoy that,

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<v Speaker 2>but also someone who plans things. I guess that's someone

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<v Speaker 2>like who really takes the time to show me that

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<v Speaker 2>he loves me, not just tell me that he loves me,

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<v Speaker 2>but like, Okay, I love you, And because I love you,

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<v Speaker 2>I wrote a note in your and left like A

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<v Speaker 2>left a loving note in your purse. You know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, Like, I took the time out of my

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<v Speaker 2>day to do something specifically that is showing you that

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<v Speaker 2>I care. I didn't come home and watch dishes because

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<v Speaker 2>that feels like the thing you want me to do.

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<v Speaker 2>But I actually said, you know what, neither one of

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<v Speaker 2>us are going to watch dishes because I'm bringing dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go to your favorite restaurant and pick

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<v Speaker 2>up your food and bring it home because I know

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<v Speaker 2>you've been home doing X, Y and Z all day.

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<v Speaker 2>Just someone who actually likes take the time to plan

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<v Speaker 2>things for me. I think that's a really beautiful thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for listening. When we return, we will gain

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<v Speaker 1>more insight from the other family members. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>find David to be really incredible as well. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing I want to say about David, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is also true for Jay, but David made it

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<v Speaker 1>out of an incredibly difficult environment to make it out of.

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<v Speaker 1>They literally make movies about how difficult the environment David

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<v Speaker 1>started his life in, and he somehow ended up in

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<v Speaker 1>one of the top universities in our country playing football

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<v Speaker 1>at such a high level that he eventually was able

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<v Speaker 1>to do it professionally. David is an incredibly strong person,

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<v Speaker 1>and an incredibly focused person, and an incredibly confident person.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think the transition out of sports into civilian life,

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<v Speaker 1>if you will has been difficult for David and robbed

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<v Speaker 1>him of some of his confidence and some of his motivation.

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<v Speaker 1>I think David wants more than anything else to be

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<v Speaker 1>the confident version of himself and to get back to

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<v Speaker 1>that strength that he had. I also think one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most amazing things about David is he's an incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>sensitive man and the relationships in his life really matter.

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<v Speaker 1>Relationships with his sister, who has since passed on, his

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<v Speaker 1>mother who has passed on. Being a good father is

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<v Speaker 1>important to David, and also being a good partner, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think he wrestles with how do I get that

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<v Speaker 1>confidence back and make those people in those relationships in

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<v Speaker 1>his life proud of him? And like anything else, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a difficult journey. When we fall into patterns, we get

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<v Speaker 1>further and further away from the person that we want

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<v Speaker 1>to be of the person that we used to be,

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<v Speaker 1>and in order to re establish new patterns, it takes

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<v Speaker 1>time and it's difficult. You know, David was committed to

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<v Speaker 1>the process early on, and I appreciate that about David,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it highlights kind of who he is

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<v Speaker 1>and how focused he can be when he has the

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<v Speaker 1>right mindset.

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<v Speaker 4>Attitude, any emotions. I'm not letting that get in the

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<v Speaker 4>way of anything, you know. I mean, I still got kids.

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<v Speaker 4>I still got to be on my son though, but

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<v Speaker 4>you know, just trying to you know, filter in the

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<v Speaker 4>energy a little bit different than previous times and stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not letting people upset me or things as being said,

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<v Speaker 4>upset me or change my mood. So, you know, just

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<v Speaker 4>by doing my things that I need to do on

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<v Speaker 4>my checklist, it's just you know, it's keeping me going.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody got their own little thing, but it's keeping me going.

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<v Speaker 4>And the routine. Stop in the morning, listen to my

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<v Speaker 4>affirmation say, listen to some uh something that's my motivational stuff,

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<v Speaker 4>positive things, and then once that's done, I put on

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<v Speaker 4>my music to get the energy, go to the park.

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<v Speaker 4>So like, I just gotta, like I'm a creature habit,

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<v Speaker 4>so I just gotta keep my routine and my things

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<v Speaker 4>that's gonna make me positive and make me a better person.

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<v Speaker 4>Like it's not gonna be it's not perfect, but I

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<v Speaker 4>take the you know, like I like, like they're saying

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<v Speaker 4>football inches go to yards, yards go to first downs,

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<v Speaker 4>first downs, and then touchdowns, So I take it just

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<v Speaker 4>like that. The whole field inches by You know.

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<v Speaker 1>What's interesting is I've always thought that football is an

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<v Speaker 1>amazing metaphor for life, Like if you focus on touchdowns,

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<v Speaker 1>it becomes way harder to get touchdowns. But football is

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<v Speaker 1>actually a game of inches, and if you focus on

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<v Speaker 1>like all incremental steps, it becomes much easier to to

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<v Speaker 1>accomplish the bigger goal. Yes, absolutely, Okay, absolutely, game suggest

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<v Speaker 1>the name of the game, right, I think that's absolutely true.

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<v Speaker 1>I also think that's the name of the game of

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<v Speaker 1>life is focus on like the small incremental steps, Like

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<v Speaker 1>if you focus on the moments, then it's easier to

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<v Speaker 1>have a good day and a good week, and a

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<v Speaker 1>good month and so on. If you focus on trying

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<v Speaker 1>to have a good you know, a good month or

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<v Speaker 1>a good year, it becomes way too difficult. Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, What is your.

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<v Speaker 1>Internal voice saying? And do you have to change it?

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<v Speaker 1>If it is not in line with who you want

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<v Speaker 1>to be? You have to train your internal voice. You've

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<v Speaker 1>got to like, I'm not going to listen to my

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<v Speaker 1>internal voice that's not moving me closer to the way

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be, and I am going to listen

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<v Speaker 1>to the internal voice that is like me personally I've

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<v Speaker 1>begun a pretty significant fitness journey. I want to get

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<v Speaker 1>back to being the healthier version of me physically. And

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<v Speaker 1>every night I go for a run, and while I'm running,

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<v Speaker 1>I got that internal voice that tells me, you know

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<v Speaker 1>you can stop now, you've run enough. You know your

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<v Speaker 1>young lungs are burning. Like that internal voice happens. But

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to know, I'm not gonna listen to that

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<v Speaker 1>one because that's the one that is not getting me

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<v Speaker 1>closer to my goals. But I've got that other internal

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<v Speaker 1>voice that says, Elliott, keep going. Aren't you proud of yourself?

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine one's going to feel like when you're done. Imagine

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<v Speaker 1>that feeling you're gonna have when you're finished and you

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<v Speaker 1>know you've accomplished yet another goal. Keep going. And I

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<v Speaker 1>train myself to listen to that internal voice. And the

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<v Speaker 1>more you can do that, the more successful you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be in life.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I want my mindset that change to remove all doubt. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>I was walking around with too much doubt. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>not usually me. People when they speak about me, sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>they you know, the things that they say, I wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>seeing it in myself. They got to that point in

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<v Speaker 4>time like it was like I was a little big.

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<v Speaker 4>I was being too hard on myself, you know, in

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<v Speaker 4>a bad way and not a good way. And I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like now the mindset, no doubt, no doubt, David,

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<v Speaker 4>you got it, smart, you can do it. You know

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<v Speaker 4>what I'm saying. You just got to apply it. And

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<v Speaker 4>once I apply it and I lock in on something,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna get it. By lock in on it, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>definitely gonna because I'm not gonna stop until I get

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<v Speaker 4>to it. And that's the thing. And I gotta get

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<v Speaker 4>that back I had that. I gotta get that back.

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<v Speaker 4>And it slowly, slowly but shortly is coming into the

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<v Speaker 4>yards and it's coming back. So once I lock in,

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<v Speaker 4>that's it. And then just keep on going. And then

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<v Speaker 4>remind myself that I don't want to go back to

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<v Speaker 4>that way. I want to stay this way or get

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<v Speaker 4>better and keep on going straight. No rarey mirror, not

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<v Speaker 4>in the mind, no very mirror. Whatever is in the

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<v Speaker 4>back and of the past, they got to stay that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Once you can identify what works, you now know what

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<v Speaker 1>you need to repeat. And you guys are going to

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<v Speaker 1>notice a theme here. Most of us, we don't analyze

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<v Speaker 1>our lives for what works. We analyze our lives for

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<v Speaker 1>what feels good or what is comfortable. But you have

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<v Speaker 1>to ask yourself what is working for me? Meaning what

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<v Speaker 1>actions am I taking in my life that are moving

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<v Speaker 1>me closer to the version of myself that I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be, That are moving me closer to the goals

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<v Speaker 1>I want to achieve, that are moving me closer to

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<v Speaker 1>having the accomplishments that I want to have. The things

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<v Speaker 1>that are doing that you need to repeat. But too

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<v Speaker 1>often we base our decisions based on what feels good

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<v Speaker 1>or what was most comfortable. But you've got to ask

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<v Speaker 1>yourself what is working, what is moving me in a

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<v Speaker 1>direction that I want to go And once you know

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<v Speaker 1>what those things are, then you can repeat them. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>be right back after this with more more family therapy.

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<v Speaker 1>Freddie is a man who has battled demons a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of his life. But more than anything else, Freddie has

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<v Speaker 1>a massive, huge heart, and Freddie wants to heal and

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<v Speaker 1>make atonement and to be honest with you. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think Freddie knows this, but he's incredibly brave and Freddie

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<v Speaker 1>is willing to be uncomfortable for the sake of the

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<v Speaker 1>others around him, and it's something tremendously admirable about Freddie.

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<v Speaker 1>Freddie has done one of the hardest things you could

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<v Speaker 1>ever do in life, and that is get clean from

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:57.360
<v Speaker 1>substance abuse. It is very, very difficult to get clean

0:28:57.400 --> 0:29:01.000
<v Speaker 1>from substance abuse and misuse, and Freddie has done that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I genuinely believe that anybody who could do that

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<v Speaker 1>could do just about anything. So who is Freddie? In

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, he's a superhero. He is flawed, and he

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<v Speaker 1>has made some colossal, drastic errors in his life. He's

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<v Speaker 1>been locked away from his family at times, and he

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't always been a present father. But what makes him

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<v Speaker 1>so remarkable is when he came out on the other

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<v Speaker 1>side of the addiction and the incarceration, he had a

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<v Speaker 1>heart to create healing with his nine children, and he

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<v Speaker 1>had the courage to take steps to accomplish that healing. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be very clear, I have no idea

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<v Speaker 1>how this is going to work out for Freddie. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think anybody could possibly know that, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>even sure I have no idea of knowing if Freddy's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be able to stick to it, because it

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<v Speaker 1>is that hard but the very fact that Freddie was

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<v Speaker 1>willing to take even a step is significantly more than

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people in his position do. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>exactly why I genuinely believe Freddie is a superhero. And

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that he's also willing to expose that journey

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<v Speaker 1>publicly on a forum like Family Therapy, it speaks to

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<v Speaker 1>the level of strength, courage, and heart of this remarkable man.

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<v Speaker 1>We should not be judged by the mistakes we make.

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<v Speaker 1>We should be judged by the way we bounce back

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<v Speaker 1>from them. And I really believe this process about showing

0:30:26.600 --> 0:30:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Freddie's bounce back and seeing if he can create healing

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<v Speaker 1>amongst his children. As a part of that bounce back,

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<v Speaker 1>we spend some time discussing the difference it would make

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<v Speaker 1>for him to reconnect with Jay and his grandchildren. What

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<v Speaker 1>difference does it make for you to be reconnecting with

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<v Speaker 1>Jen and her kids, your grandkids?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man, it's just a whole world. Man, It means

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<v Speaker 3>a whole world to me.

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<v Speaker 5>Like it seems like I could, you know, I could,

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<v Speaker 5>like I could relive their childhood through their kids. You

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<v Speaker 5>know what I mean in the sense because my grandson,

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<v Speaker 5>he favors j great deal. J great deal too.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, you know, almost like a second chance almost.

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<v Speaker 6>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>And who is j to you? Like, why does this

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<v Speaker 1>matter so much? Can you? Can you tell me why

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<v Speaker 1>it matters so much to you to reconnect with her?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's not her specifically, I want to reconnect with

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<v Speaker 3>all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you just said you just said something interesting, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I ask you, like, who is jay to you? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's it like to reconnect for them? You said something

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<v Speaker 1>interesting that I think is important. You said, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to reconnect with all my kids. And I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>push you a little bit because I think there's something

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<v Speaker 1>really important here, because there was a chunk of all

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<v Speaker 1>of your kids live and for now, just highlight Jame,

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<v Speaker 1>just to have a specific example where you were. You

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<v Speaker 1>weren't around, You were out in the streets and incarcerated

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<v Speaker 1>and all that stuff. You weren't around, and now you're

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<v Speaker 1>around and you're saying like really important things like I

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<v Speaker 1>had forgotten what it's like to have two kids around,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you can't do anything by yourself, you can't even

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<v Speaker 1>go to the bathroom. And I asked you, like it

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<v Speaker 1>is important to reconnect with Jayleen like, yes, it's very important.

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<v Speaker 1>I think when you're gone, the children may feel like

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<v Speaker 1>we're not important to him. Like I'd be willing to

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<v Speaker 1>bet there were times in Jay's life where she felt like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not important to my father, And now it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like she is very important to you and all of

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<v Speaker 1>your kids. But it seems like she's very important to you.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the experiences, as you said you had,

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<v Speaker 1>was like, when I'm playing around with the kids, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it's a second chance. So a real important

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<v Speaker 1>question I have, and I really want you to think

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<v Speaker 1>about this. Do you think Jaylen knows that she's important

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<v Speaker 1>to you, and she's so important to you that you

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<v Speaker 1>want to keep trying and keep reconnecting and you're experiencing

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<v Speaker 1>it as a second chance at her childhood, you even

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<v Speaker 1>said it feels like I got a second chance because she

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<v Speaker 1>favors the grandchild favors Jaylen, and it to you, it

0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:41.280
<v Speaker 1>feels like a second chance. Do you think jay knows

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<v Speaker 1>she's that important to you?

0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, I'm quite sure she does.

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<v Speaker 7>That's Uh, it's funny because like, uh, when when they

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<v Speaker 7>dropped when they when they drop the kids off. So

0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:04.880
<v Speaker 7>there is the name he forgot his charger for his

0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:10.600
<v Speaker 7>uh iPad, so there wasn't that far. They had stopped

0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:12.920
<v Speaker 7>at the store, you know, and got some refreshments and

0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:15.960
<v Speaker 7>stuff with her the ride back. So when when she came,

0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:20.040
<v Speaker 7>when she came back, you know, I ad all the

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:21.919
<v Speaker 7>light so on. I was by the front door, await,

0:34:23.160 --> 0:34:27.239
<v Speaker 7>and she just hugged me, like I don't know, I

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:29.600
<v Speaker 7>don't know why, Like I just got.

0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:33.200
<v Speaker 3>For this talking to her, but you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>So when she came and she just hugged me, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>hugged her, okay, like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Like what was different about that hug that told you

0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:43.720
<v Speaker 1>this is a hug of my daughter knowing how important

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:44.239
<v Speaker 1>she is to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it felt like so uh so, like so so rewarded.

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<v Speaker 8>Like he's like, you make the last shot at the

0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:04.520
<v Speaker 8>basketball game, is like five is left and you shoot

0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:07.000
<v Speaker 8>it and it goal is in the basket and you

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<v Speaker 8>win the game something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>It felt like something like that, you know what I mean.

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:15.719
<v Speaker 3>And it was it was so julierating. I was like, oh, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's an important question. And I haven't heard you

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<v Speaker 1>say this before, does J know? I mean, that's an

0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:28.359
<v Speaker 1>amazing feeling that you're talking about Freddy, like like that

0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:30.719
<v Speaker 1>that exhilarating feeling when you make the last shot at

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:34.239
<v Speaker 1>the end of the game, like that's special. Jane, know

0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:39.879
<v Speaker 1>that you felt that when she hugged you. I know,

0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I know there must be a motion between you and

0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Ja because she came and she hugged you and it

0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:49.359
<v Speaker 1>felt like that. But do you think Jay knows that

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<v Speaker 1>you feel it too?

0:35:53.360 --> 0:36:01.279
<v Speaker 3>I'm quite sure she does. I tell you know every

0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:03.520
<v Speaker 3>time we talk on the phone and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>When you when you call her or talk to her,

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<v Speaker 1>have you ever told her that you missed her while

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:14.719
<v Speaker 1>you were away, or how happy you are that she's

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<v Speaker 1>back in your life, or how amazing it feels when

0:36:17.800 --> 0:36:19.680
<v Speaker 1>she hugs you. Have you ever told her those things?

0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:25.560
<v Speaker 3>Na to tell her that nice and never told nothing

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<v Speaker 3>like that?

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<v Speaker 1>What difference do you think it would make to Jay?

0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:32.480
<v Speaker 1>They hear those things from.

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<v Speaker 3>You, and probably a world of a world of difference.

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<v Speaker 6>I understand what you're saying, because, like when I said that,

0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:48.680
<v Speaker 6>my father wasn't verbally saying he loved me, but he

0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:53.799
<v Speaker 6>did things and ways of an accident, right, But like

0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:58.880
<v Speaker 6>I said, I do miss him saying verbally that I

0:36:58.920 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 6>love you. Yes, yes, they both combine together to make

0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:07.400
<v Speaker 6>the whole you know exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned from my final thoughts after this. I don't

0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:25.800
<v Speaker 1>think it's accurate that actions speak louder than words because

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<v Speaker 1>it very much depends on the partner that you have.

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<v Speaker 1>There are certain people that words are really really important.

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<v Speaker 1>There are certain people that actions are really really important.

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<v Speaker 1>There are certain people that both are really really important.

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<v Speaker 1>So you have to know, and I'm gonna like this

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<v Speaker 1>is super duper important. You have to know how does

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<v Speaker 1>my partner experience the emotion of love? And then what

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<v Speaker 1>do I need to say and or do to produce

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<v Speaker 1>that in my partner's life. Once you understand that, then

0:37:57.560 --> 0:38:00.000
<v Speaker 1>you'll understand it's not really about actions speaking louder than

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:03.480
<v Speaker 1>words or words being louder than actions. It's about I

0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:06.040
<v Speaker 1>want my partner to feel love. And if my partner

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<v Speaker 1>is an action oriented person, then I need to be

0:38:08.680 --> 0:38:12.120
<v Speaker 1>a person of action. If if my partner is a

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<v Speaker 1>like words of affirmation kind of person, then I need

0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:18.440
<v Speaker 1>to be more verbal about my expression of love. But

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<v Speaker 1>it is very very important that you spend the time

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<v Speaker 1>getting to know your partner and how they experience love,

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<v Speaker 1>and then do and or say the things in their

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<v Speaker 1>life that produce that in their lives. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>be entertained by. I actually want you to be inspired.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to be impacted by this, and in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>So what I would like for you to do is

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<v Speaker 1>journey of change rediscovery with us. And the way to

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