1 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: Welcome in jazz A. I'm on Tainanie Stevens, Katy Shadwick 2 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: in for us and for Brian Sexton. John osers with 3 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: me as well to continue your training camp coverage of 4 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: Jaguars finally playing a preseason game last week and they're 5 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: working towards their second one against the Saints this weekend. 6 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: Let's start out with some of our big things brought 7 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: to you by g e H. 8 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: Government Employees Health Association benefits for federal employees and retirees. 9 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: So we're gonna start out with mental Obviously, there were 10 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: a lot of mental mistakes in their first preseason matchup 11 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: against the Steelers, and that's something Liam Cohen really focused 12 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: on practice at London. 13 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 3: Alignment assignment, getting our cleats in the ground when. 14 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 4: We have a call. 15 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 3: On both sides of the ball, you know, fundamentals. We 16 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 3: did a forty play alignment assignment period of just getting 17 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 3: the call, getting our cleats in the ground, making loud 18 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 3: guttural communication, getting the calls in quickly. That was what 19 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 3: we were really kind of focusing on from an emphasis standpoint. Obviously, 20 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 3: some of these guys are gonna be a little bit soler. 21 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 3: That played a lot of snaps in the game, so 22 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 3: we were trying to really hone in on the mind 23 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 3: got conditioning out of it kind of as well. So 24 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 3: that was kind of the thought of today as your 25 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 3: head coach. 26 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: At practice on Monday got at that time, z Ap. 27 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: They went really mentally focused. They weren't they didn't have 28 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: all their pads on Monday. They were really trying to get, 29 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: you know, some of the stuff that you can avoid 30 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: out of the way and just alignments issues like that. 31 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: That was mainly the focus for the Monday. 32 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 5: It was. 33 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 6: And you know, I'll use emojis a lot when I 34 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 6: text people, John, I know it certainly does. 35 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 5: Kyle, you probably do too. You never want to. 36 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 4: See this struggle on the field on. 37 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 6: Defil So it felt like there was a lot of 38 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 6: what's going on on the field on defense, and that 39 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 6: was the whole focus on money. All right, take the 40 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 6: pads off, let's slow things down a little bit, and 41 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 6: you gotta nip that in the bud right now, because 42 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 6: that can fester and grow into miscommunication once the regular 43 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 6: season gets here. John, and I think it was really 44 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 6: smart for Liam Cohen to just settle it down a 45 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 6: little bit and get refocused. 46 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, I thought he had a little bit of a 47 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 7: tone on Monday of Okay, we can get lined up. 48 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 7: We're gonna line up, and we're gonna line up again. 49 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 7: We're gonna line up again until you guys get it right. 50 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 7: And that may be a little extreme, but I thought 51 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 7: it had a feel of that. 52 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 4: You know. 53 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 7: The the cleats in the ground was something that Anthony 54 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 7: Campanelli talked about as well. If it didn't happen, then 55 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 7: they're gonna make darn sure it does happen. So I 56 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 7: thought it was interesting that, you know, I really like 57 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 7: how Liam Cohen is approaching his availability with the media, 58 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 7: meaning he's very transparent. I think it shows you he's 59 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,399 Speaker 7: probably that way with the players, and if he sees 60 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 7: something needs to be addressed, he's going to address it. 61 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 2: Forgett to say absolutely, it's refreshing. I love it. 62 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: Second big thing physical now, just because they were more 63 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: mentally focused on Monday, on Tuesday, they went back to 64 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,119 Speaker 1: physicality and probably one of the most physical practices we've 65 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: seen so far in training him getting after it. 66 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 2: We got our first fistfight a little bit as well. 67 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: But coach camp talked also yesterday about not wasting their 68 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: time and utilizing it. 69 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 8: The beautiful part of football is you always got to 70 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 8: understand times the enemy. You know, time is the enemy. 71 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 8: That's what you're working again, So every walk through, every meeting, 72 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 8: if you're not paying attention, if you're not dialed in 73 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 8: on all your reps, you know, your opportunities out there, 74 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 8: however many they may be, You've got to make them count, 75 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 8: you know. And I know that's like cliche. Everybody says, oh, 76 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 8: don't count the reps, make the reps count, but like 77 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 8: there's not enough time to not be locked into what 78 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 8: you're doing. So if you don't do that, you know, 79 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,119 Speaker 8: sometimes you're learning on the fly. And I think we'll 80 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 8: learn from that last outing out there on the field. 81 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: John, I know a lot of us panicking maybe is 82 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: a strong way of saying it. They're worried about what 83 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: they saw on defense in that preseason game. We talked 84 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,119 Speaker 1: a little bit about that earlier this week, but also 85 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: just taking advantage and utilizing the opportunity. They have a 86 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: camp to fix this right away and get back on track. 87 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 88 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 7: Look, I mean I've been down playing a little bit, 89 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 7: uh the first series the other night, cause it was 90 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 7: one preseason game and it was in the in the 91 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 7: first preseason game and it was ten plays. But if 92 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 7: it's another preseason game and another preseason game at some point, 93 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 7: you can't say that it's just preseason if it if 94 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 7: it keeps happening. So I think there is some urgency. 95 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 7: There's a reason to panic about it. But from a 96 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 7: coaching standpoint, the reason you have preseason games is so 97 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 7: you can look at him and say, Okay, what it 98 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 7: needs to get fixed, Well, you know, get the cleats 99 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 7: in the ground, let's get going, Let's make sure they 100 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 7: understand the urgency of this, and uh. 101 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 4: Let's move on and get that fixed. 102 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 7: So I that's been the tone, and I think both 103 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 7: of these guys campany lanco and have uh expressed that. 104 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 7: I I'd be surprised if there's a whole lot of 105 00:04:58,640 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 7: this on Sunday. 106 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 5: All right, it's been a focus all week John, And yeah, 107 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 5: he's right. 108 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 6: Though the clock is ticking, there's only two more preseason 109 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 6: games left, most likely, and just a guess here, the 110 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 6: starters might not play in the last one since they 111 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 6: have the practice against the Dolphins, so time is limited, 112 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 6: especially for the guys they feel like are frontline starting 113 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 6: players to get their act together and be physical and 114 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 6: put good reps on tape. So it's coming quick week 115 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 6: ones right around the corner, sure is. 116 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: Let's do our final big thing, which is depth. Tyson Campbell, cornerback, 117 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: has not practiced. He did not practice on Monday, did 118 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: not practice on Tuesday. He's dealing with an injury that 119 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: hasn't been disclosed at this point. 120 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 2: But how concerned are you about the secondary at this point? 121 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 4: JP? 122 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: Obviously Montereg Brown is going to miss the rest of 123 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: training camp he has an injury. At Travis Hunter obviously 124 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: plays on both sides of the ball. We haven't seen 125 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: him play every single down on defense, so is that 126 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: something we could see more of him on defense now 127 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: because of the need. 128 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 6: It seems like that Caleb Bransaw too has been out 129 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 6: a little bit as well, the rookie that they liked 130 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 6: they were going to count on a little bit at 131 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 6: some point on the in the secondary. 132 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 5: But yeah, earlier in the week we. 133 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 6: Saw Travis Hunter play all defense. That was back on Tuesday, 134 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 6: So is that an everyday occurrence moving ahead? 135 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 5: Don't know about that. 136 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 6: Maybe it just worked out for Travis Hunter on that day, 137 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 6: but maybe he does I don't know. 138 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 5: If it'll, that's the question. John. I don't know if he'll. 139 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 6: Just what they're doing with Travis, because what they're doing 140 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 6: with Travis Hunter is its own thing no matter what 141 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 6: happens on either side of the ball at those positions. 142 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 6: I think they want to stay on track with Travis 143 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 6: as much as they can. 144 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think he drafted Travis Hunter with the 145 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 7: idea that you were going to have an injury in 146 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 7: camp dictate his playing time because with Travis you're not 147 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 7: only worried about like what's happening today and in week one. 148 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 7: You want him to develop over the course of his 149 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 7: career or the short term. As far as depth your debt, 150 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 7: I mean, you are deep until you're not deep. Well, 151 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 7: I think they started out deep and now that they 152 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 7: have two guys out, they're not as deep. 153 00:06:58,560 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 4: So that's basic math. 154 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 7: But I do think you want to make sure Tyson 155 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 7: whatever is going on now doesn't linger, because he's had 156 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 7: linger stuff the last two years. 157 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 4: You don't want that. 158 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 7: I think they're okay for now in the secondary because 159 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 7: of Travis Hunter. But if there's one more to frontline 160 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 7: guy than their shallow. 161 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: They are pluses and minuses. We appreciate the math. 162 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: John, stay with this year on jags Am, We're gonna 163 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: go over some names you need to know from training 164 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: camp this week. Welcome back to jag z Am today, 165 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: presents to you by Jet Home Loans, also brought to 166 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: you by Field's Auto Groups he Fields First, Jacksonville's premier 167 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: luxury auto group at Field Aotto dot Com. 168 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: Welcome you back in today. 169 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: A little bit of a break from practice, but we've 170 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: been out there every single day, so I feel like 171 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: today we're gonna go over some names that you need 172 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: to know from practice. Some are new people, some are 173 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: people you already know but maybe in a different role, 174 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: or somebody that's just gonna be really important to this roster. 175 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: And we need to talk about it a little bit 176 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: because I feel like there's tons of new faces, new names. 177 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: This is gonna look a lot different than last year. 178 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: And if people aren't at training camp every day, which 179 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: most of you aren't, you do want to know some 180 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: of these people. 181 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: So John, when you're thinking. 182 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: About someone not necessarily new, but someone that might have 183 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: a different role this year. 184 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 4: Well there's a lot. 185 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 7: I mean I almost talked about Dewey wingerd here because 186 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 7: I think he's going to be a really important member 187 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 7: of the secondary and maybe people will tend to write 188 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 7: him off. But I went with Travis etn who is 189 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:30,239 Speaker 7: also not new. But you know, in March and April, 190 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 7: I'm getting questions all the time about trading him, and 191 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 7: it was almost like people wanted to make him an 192 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 7: afterthought because all of a sudden, he's a back coming up. 193 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 4: On year five. 194 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 7: He's not an afterthought. He's He's going to be very 195 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,119 Speaker 7: important in this offense. And I have gotten the impression 196 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 7: that every time the coaches see him on the field, 197 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 7: they like him a little more. And whatever preconceived notion 198 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 7: there may have been about what he was or wasn't, 199 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 7: he fits what they're trying to do. And in this 200 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 7: in this Liham Cohen offense that emphasizes back, emphasizes versatility, 201 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 7: emphasizes being able to catch the ball out of the backfield. Uh. 202 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 7: You know, Travis has been good around here, really good. 203 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 7: I don't know if he's gonna match his career high rushing, 204 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 7: but I'm betting he's going to match his career high 205 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 7: in terms of being important to. 206 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 4: The offense and being really really good. 207 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 7: I think he's gonna have a really good year and 208 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 7: set himself up for a very interesting off season next year, 209 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 7: wherever he may be. 210 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 2: Next that's a good point. 211 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: This is the final year for his rookie deal, so 212 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: he'll be up for a new contract, whether here or not. 213 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 1: So you have to imagine that'll be a motivating fact. 214 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 5: We'll see. I mean, the fans are trying to play trade. 215 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 4: Machine John yesterday. 216 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: Yesterday was the world. 217 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 5: He's not going anywhere. 218 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 2: Not that I've heard, is he No? 219 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 4: No, I'd be. 220 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 7: Right now if I'm gonna say he's not gonna be 221 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 7: a trade anywhere on this roster, maybe in running back. 222 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 7: Who knows Traves etn I think they're a lesser team 223 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 7: without him right now? 224 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: I agree, Who is someone a name you need to know? 225 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: According to JP, I was. 226 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 6: Thinking about Parker Washington because he was fresh on my 227 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 6: mind after practice on Tuesday where he was all over 228 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 6: the field, and you know, I think he kind of 229 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 6: got lost in the headlines of the offseason with Travis 230 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 6: Hunter and Deonny Browner. But outside, I just wanted to 231 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 6: go defense. And we've seen Jordan Lewis this training camp. 232 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 6: Come in here and really I think take over the 233 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 6: attitude of the back end of this defense. Free agent addition, 234 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 6: longtime Dallas cowboy was probably lost in some of the 235 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 6: outside of the spotlight in Dallas a little bit. There's 236 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 6: you know, a lot of headliners down there, but a 237 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 6: really good nickel cornerback and he's coming here and proving it. 238 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 6: I think in training camp so far, with his ability 239 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 6: to get the hands on the football. Almost every day 240 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 6: he's got his hands on it somehow, whether it's a 241 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 6: pass deflection or an interception or a vocal leadership moment. 242 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 6: I mean, he's all over the place on defense. But 243 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 6: especially since we talked about earlier, it's a little thin 244 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 6: right now in the secondary. Some injuries are popping up. 245 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 6: He's a guy you're really gonna rely on in Jordan Lewis. 246 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 6: And that's why, uh, that's the name. 247 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 5: I think. 248 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think people tend to always wanna focus on 249 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 7: additions as a reason the team can get better. 250 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 4: Guys on the roster can get better too. 251 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 7: I think guys like Trayvon Uh, I think there's guys 252 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 7: in this roster are gonna make a big jump. I 253 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 7: he even betjmight. But if you're looking for outside editions 254 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 7: that are gonna make this team better. 255 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 4: Jordan Lewis is right in there. 256 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 7: Jordan Lewis, Yame Brown, those two guys tangible ways this 257 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 7: is gonna look different. 258 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 4: Uh. 259 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 7: I don't know about pro bol, I don't know about 260 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 7: any of that, but I think Jordan Lewis is a 261 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 7: guy who might be the best defensive back on this 262 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 7: team this year. 263 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 2: I think so. 264 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 1: Obviously, also bring in he's a veteran, he's been in 265 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 1: the league for eight years. He brings in that presence, presence, 266 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: and a little bit of what I would say is 267 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: it wasn't a lack of leadership, but I felt like 268 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: the communication on defense last year was certainly lacking, and 269 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: it felt like there wasn't always someone at every level 270 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: that could kind of pull it together. And he feels 271 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: like that guy in the defensive back room or in 272 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: that area of the field that can pull things together sometimes. 273 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 7: Guys, you know, I'm not a big free agency guy. 274 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 7: I don't necessarily think that you automatically get better through 275 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 7: that because it's hard to fit and you don't know 276 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 7: what you're getting a lot of times, Jordan Lewis is 277 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 7: a guy that when you unwrap the present, you're fired 278 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 7: up about it. Yeah, and then you know, there's always 279 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 7: that president. You put him in the tree, thank you 280 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 7: forget about. He's the one you still like two or 281 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 7: three months later because he's exactly what you want. He's 282 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 7: a pro, he knows how to prepare, he fits, he's 283 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 7: gonna make plays. He's not over the hill. I think 284 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 7: it's gonna be a great free decign. 285 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 6: And he's not afraid to mix it up with the 286 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 6: other team occasionally too if he needs to. You know, 287 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 6: if he backs it up with a good play, that's 288 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 6: the perfect scenario. But when it matters, he's the guy 289 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 6: that can, I think, be vocal for this football team 290 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 6: and for this defense. 291 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 2: That's at the tone we love that I went defense 292 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: as well. 293 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: Mine is Mason Skis because we haven't seen him on 294 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: the field yet. He started the we saw him an Ota, 295 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: we saw him in those workouts looking good, getting involved 296 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: in the off season program, but he hasn't been on 297 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: the field yet. And I think that's a group that 298 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: we looked at maybe in the off season and said 299 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: we really need to see an improvement from there, and 300 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: it wasn't a bunch of additions. 301 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 2: So it's going to have to come within. 302 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: Eric Arms said obviously moving back to his natural position 303 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: defensive tackle, but he hasn't been on the field recently either, 304 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: so that makes even more pressure on Mason Sith when 305 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: he comes back. I would love to see him before 306 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: the end of the training camp. I don't want to 307 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: go in and not have seen him yet. But for me, 308 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: that's a name to keep an eye on, because if 309 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: he's not back yet and Eric Armstead's also dealing with 310 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: an injury, I'm now concerned about that position group. 311 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 4: A little bit. 312 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 6: I mean, it feels like to me that he was 313 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 6: one of the talks of the off season, like they 314 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 6: liked him a lot in what he was doing in 315 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 6: the off season program. 316 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 5: And then now the injury has popped up. 317 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 6: I could foresee it though maybe in the next week 318 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:52,719 Speaker 6: or so him trying to get back out there. He 319 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 6: would see him on the side right now, and with 320 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 6: Armstead off to the side. 321 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 5: Also, I mean, I'm doing this again, like what. 322 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 6: Happens at the if it's a tackle at these positions, 323 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 6: if these guys aren't ready, it's a weakness up front 324 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 6: right now, uh, in terms of depth. 325 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 5: But let's go play it out and see what happens. John, 326 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 5: But I mean he's a guy you gotta have. 327 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 6: You counted on him. They drafted him high previous regime. 328 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 6: Did gotta see him on the field. 329 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think they can be okay for a couple 330 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 7: of weeks with Lacey. 331 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 4: Devon. 332 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, the new free agent sign that they just brought 333 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 7: in and I'm drawing a blank. But they've got some 334 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 7: pieces there and you can get by it for a 335 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 7: couple of weeks. But if they're gonna be strong on 336 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 7: the interior, to me, Mason Smith is the one defensive 337 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 7: interior guy who has a chance to be a star. 338 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 4: Uh. 339 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 7: I'm not sure Armstead can be a star anymore. I 340 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 7: think he can be solid, but he's he's in his 341 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 7: eleventh year. I don't know if there's gonna be an 342 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 7: ascension there. Mason Smith has the ability to be a star. 343 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 7: There's certain things on this team you think, okay, they 344 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 7: can be special and really get better fast if this happens. 345 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 7: If the receiver's core is as good as we think, uh, 346 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 7: and it it, Mason Smith makes the interior strong and 347 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 7: special instead of just Ugh. Then all of a sudden 348 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 7: that can mean being a lot better in a hurry. 349 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 7: So he's important coming. 350 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: Up after the break, we're gonna talk specifically about the 351 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: edge rushers on the team and tell you what's on 352 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: the roster right now. 353 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 7: Check Dan. 354 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 2: Brought to you by dream Finders' Homes. 355 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: For twelve years, dream Finders' Homes have been how to 356 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: call themselves the official homebuilder of the Jacksonville Jaguars because 357 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: a dreamfinders dot Com for all of the available inventory, 358 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: Go Jacks. 359 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 9: It takes us just coming in and being ourselves every day, 360 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 9: being true to ourselves. As far as we obviously know 361 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 9: it's a physical sport. We all want to come up 362 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 9: here here every physical but at the end of the day, 363 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 9: it's either you're gonna win or you're gonna lose, and 364 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 9: don't nobody want to lose. So coming there with that mindset, 365 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 9: I feel like as far as with our defensive perspective, 366 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 9: we want to be physical, want to stop and run, 367 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 9: and that's our main focus. 368 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: Person Ravon Walker, entering his fourth season here already feels 369 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: like flies a little bit. 370 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 2: Wow, that's crazy. 371 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: But just in terms of the defense, obviously we talked 372 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: a little bit about the defensive line just before the break, 373 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: but the edge rushers, you got Josh Heindalen you've got Trayvon, 374 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: you feel good about that. But as we mentioned, I 375 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: feel like some about the interior. Will will that affect 376 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: how many sacks they have? 377 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 4: Will that? 378 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 2: How much will that affect it? 379 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 5: I mean, I think that usually does. 380 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 6: If we don't have a push in the middle, makes 381 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 6: it that much tougher for the edge guys to get 382 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 6: home when the quarterback and just sit there in the. 383 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 5: Pocket might have to move. 384 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 6: So I think it all runs in tandem. However, they'll 385 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 6: tell you they need to do their own work and 386 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 6: get there too. And even though there have been issues 387 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 6: at times in the interior, Trayvon Walker still gott in 388 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 6: his ten at least the last couple of years, so 389 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 6: I think the arro continues to rise for him. 390 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 5: Josh Hein Allen is always motivated to step up his 391 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 5: game on the other side. 392 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 6: And then you add in Ogba, veteran guy who's been 393 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 6: around the league for a minute, and the Duan Smooth 394 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 6: is back in play at defensive end, and you've got 395 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 6: some rotational guys there John behind these two starters. 396 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 7: I'm a big believer that, look, you have to have 397 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 7: good pass rushers. You have to have very good pass 398 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 7: rus in the NFL. But I think the biggest factor 399 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 7: in pass rush that gets overlooked are you getting into 400 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 7: situations where you know the other team's gonna pass because 401 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 7: how many how many sacks do you get on second three? 402 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 4: Right? 403 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 7: So you've got to get in those distant situations and 404 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 7: you've gotta have leads. So I think Trayvon and Josh 405 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 7: can both be thirteen fourteen SAT guys if they're you know, 406 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 7: late game situations, if they're leading, and if they get 407 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 7: a lot pass rush opportunities. 408 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 4: So I think they're better. With the depth on the edge, 409 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 4: they're better. 410 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 7: That's why I think the Mason Smith the interior the 411 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 7: line is so important. You've got to be in third 412 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,479 Speaker 7: and eight, second and nine situations like that or the 413 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 7: best pass rushers aren't gonna get ten sacks, you know, 414 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 7: if you're not in that, And. 415 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 6: That means we'll always tell you, hey, we got to 416 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 6: earn the right to go rush the pastor that means 417 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 6: stop the run and get in those situations in those 418 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 6: early downs to make it third of eight because they've 419 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 6: stopped the run twice. 420 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 5: You don't do that, you really don't have a shot. Yeah. 421 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 7: Hall of Famer Dwight Herney told me once he had 422 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 7: his best year rushing the passer on a year where 423 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 7: he had three and a half sacks. 424 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 4: I said, how in the world could that be. 425 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 7: It was a year where the Colts couldn't stop the 426 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 7: run and he got in very few pass rushing situations. 427 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 7: He was coming off the ball better, etcetera, etcetera, doing 428 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 7: what he thought he did right better, didn't have opportunities, 429 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 7: So they've got to get That's why, even though fans 430 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 7: think it's a passing league, it is a passing league, 431 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 7: it's a running league if you can't stop the darn run. 432 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: John, I feel like one of our favorite pastimes when 433 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: we sit next to each other in the press box 434 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: when we travel on the road is always to see 435 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: how teams are going to run the complete opposite way 436 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: of whatever Trayvon's on, because I feel like his rushing defense, 437 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: at least run defense, is one of his, maybe not 438 00:18:58,119 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: as heralded, highlights of his game. 439 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 4: I think it's. 440 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 7: He's great there and that's the thing that you can't 441 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 7: take away from him, meaning, no matter what, he's gonna 442 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 7: be good at that. Sack numbers sometimes rise and fall 443 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 7: based on circumstance, being a man against the run is 444 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 7: always there and the team can always rely on that. 445 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 7: It's why he's a very safe player in terms of Okay, 446 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 7: why are they gonna be good? Is he gonna be good? 447 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 7: He's always gonna be big against the run JP because 448 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 7: he's so strong as sets the edge so well well. 449 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 5: Certain the edge, that's what it's all about. 450 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 6: And he's so stout and strong and long arms and 451 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 6: everything that goes into that process. And it's only gotten 452 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 6: better over time for him too. If that's if that's 453 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 6: the floor, you're doing pretty good and you can build 454 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 6: everything else around that with Trayvon, And it's felt like 455 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 6: he's it feels like he's done that so far. 456 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, there were three or four years around here where 457 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 7: like when you'd be watching the game, if there was 458 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 7: a defensive player down and it was forty one, he 459 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 7: tow to hold your breath and please don't let it 460 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 7: be forty one. It's forty four for me now and 461 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 7: forty one, but I don't want to see forty four 462 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 7: go down because overlook him until he's not there, and 463 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 7: then I think fans are really is how important. 464 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 6: And I like the fact too that he just goes 465 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 6: about his business. He doesn't worry anymore about the draft stuff. 466 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 6: It feels like he says he doesn't. At least, he 467 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 6: just goes and plays his game. He's not worried about 468 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 6: Hutchinson and Detroit and all those things when they were 469 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 6: coming out. He's made his own career and he does 470 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 6: this thing, and he plays in this defense where he 471 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 6: needs to, and I think it's admirable. Actually, he doesn't 472 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 6: worry about all the noise outside. He just goes and works. 473 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 2: I believe him when he says it. I do. 474 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 1: We talked a little bit about some of the additions 475 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: in the offseason, obviously one Emmanuel Agua coming in, a 476 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: veteran Dwan Smoot coming back to town. 477 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 2: Is that enough depth for you? 478 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 7: How do you feel about edge is four nine well 479 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 7: Gard Deck I think can be a little bit of 480 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 7: a factor there too. They've got some options that we 481 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 7: don't know out of that bunch what the role is 482 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 7: gonna be yet, or even who's gonna be on the 483 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 7: roster out of that bunch, But there's certainly more options, 484 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 7: and you feel like there's least guys who have done it. Look, 485 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 7: you'd always like more. You'd like to have a third 486 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 7: and fourth guy who can get ten sacks. I don't 487 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 7: know if you're gonna have that, but it does feel 488 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 7: like there are more guys who can make an impact, 489 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 7: certainly smooth as a guy. I think you've got two 490 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 7: guys who can affect it no matter what, and then 491 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 7: you've got three more where if you get decent coverage, 492 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 7: who may need one step more than the other two. 493 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 7: But I think it's gonna be a better pass rush 494 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 7: it was last year, as long as they're in circumstances 495 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 7: where they can show it. 496 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, And how long is Ogba have been in the 497 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 6: league now? A little bit like he's been around nine 498 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 6: I think, yeah, a long time, So he's got a 499 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 6: lot of time on task here. If he's your rotational guy, 500 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 6: and if he has gas left in the tank, I 501 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 6: think you're a pretty good shit. 502 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 2: It'll be your ten for him. 503 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: So I feel like, yeah, overall, I'm not overly stressed 504 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: about this group, which is exciting because I feel like 505 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: usually when we're going to the season, we're like, where's 506 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: what's going on? 507 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 2: Like who's backing them up? 508 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: But I feel a little bit better about this forsom 509 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: than I have in the past, So definitely something to 510 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: look forward to once the regular season starts and see 511 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: what the pattern of. 512 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 2: Switching in and out is going to be. 513 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: I imagine it'll be different than last year, so that's always 514 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: a plus as well. 515 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 5: No hockey line changes this year. 516 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: I know Pete doesn't get to talk about the hockey 517 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: line changes any risk. 518 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 5: On Monday, just loved the line changes. 519 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,959 Speaker 1: No more, I don't think, say but let's we'll tell 520 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: you what's coming up the rest of the week after 521 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: the break. Jag fans, you want customized Jaguars furniture for 522 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 1: your home, check out zipchare dot com. The brows all 523 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: the customizable options. Zipchair is furniture for fans. 524 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 8: I think it means guys that usually compete. You don't 525 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 8: want guys fighting, you know, all day and reckon the practice. 526 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 8: There's not time for that. But sometimes tempers flare, and 527 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 8: usually that means there's a motion out there. And I 528 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 8: don't think that's a necessarily a bad thing. We don't 529 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 8: want to fight each other all practice, but the guys 530 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 8: are getting heated and competing. 531 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 5: I think that's that's a good thing. 532 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: And he that practice we saw our first little fight 533 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: of training. 534 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 5: It was like the Notre Dame logo. 535 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 2: Those guys there were squares in helmets. 536 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 6: Which in helmets, which is the whole different ballpark altogether. 537 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 6: But he's right though, I mean, a little intensity is 538 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,719 Speaker 6: not a bad thing. They haven't really had it spill 539 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 6: over yet into something like this, and it was quickly 540 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 6: broken up. Nobody broke a hand or a face, so 541 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 6: all's well. 542 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 7: Most coaches will tell you it's really a waste of 543 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 7: time to do it. But you don't get to upset 544 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 7: as long as it doesn't spill in. As long as 545 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 7: you're not making sports enter with it, it's fun. 546 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: Everybody stayed at practice today, so all worked itself out. 547 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 2: No media members got in a fight to fight, you. 548 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 5: Know what, Well, entire that's. 549 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 7: Usually the problem, so you know it'll be fighting with 550 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 7: the players. 551 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: We got a scrimmage tomorrow. What are you guys hoping 552 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: to see out there? I'm just hoping for some more competition. 553 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: I think they'll run it similar to what we saw 554 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: in the stadium. 555 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's interesting. I'm not sure I remember too scrimmages 556 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 7: around here that have been called that. 557 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 4: You know, you know, you have live periods. 558 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 7: I think that might be something I said for a 559 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 7: couple of years since they started going to this to 560 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 7: the third preseason game. As you get more preseason opportunities 561 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 7: taken away, uh you need something to simulate real game action, 562 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 7: especially when you're in the first year of a coach. 563 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 7: And uh now that Liam needs the reps, but the 564 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 7: team they need to see what this looks like for real. 565 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 4: Uh So it's interesting. 566 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 7: I'm looking for, you know, contact and for efficiency from 567 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 7: the quarterback. 568 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 4: I think would be the two things. 569 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 6: Alignment, assignment, communication. Those have been the buzzwords this week 570 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 6: for Liam Cohen. They had an earlier in the week, 571 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 6: had the practice where they just had periods focusing on that. 572 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 6: Let's see that, all right, turn it up, pads are 573 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 6: back on to scrimmage. 574 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 5: Does that translate? 575 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 6: I think that's a huge question mark for Liam Cohen 576 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:19,959 Speaker 6: and the coaching staff and the players. 577 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 5: They answer on tomorrow. 578 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 1: Mistake free football very important. We will be back tomorrow 579 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: for our final episode of Jags Am this week, and 580 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: we'll also talk a little bit about the Saints preseason 581 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: game coming up this weekend.