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Speaker 3: According to President Donald Trump, we are in high level

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Speaker 3: negotiations with Cuban officials. According to Cuban officials, that's not

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Speaker 3: happening at all. Let's roll Donald Trump from last weekend.

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Speaker 1: What do you want out of.

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Speaker 4: A Cuban deal?

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Speaker 3: Well, Cuba is a failing nation.

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Speaker 5: It has been for a long time, but now it

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Speaker 5: doesn't have Venezuela and all prop it up.

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Speaker 6: So we're talking to the people from Cube, the highest

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Speaker 6: people in Cuba. Let's see what happens.

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Speaker 7: I want the people that can here that we're horribly

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Speaker 7: created by Cuba.

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Speaker 5: To be taken care of, to be able to go

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Speaker 5: back and do what they have to do.

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Speaker 4: You know, they have their family there.

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Speaker 8: They haven't been able.

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Speaker 5: To sum in years, many many years.

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Speaker 6: So I think we're going to make a deal with Cuba.

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Speaker 5: Cubana, Cuba is a humanitarian Probably.

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Speaker 3: This set up a very odd situation where you had

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Speaker 3: both publicly, you had top Cuban officials saying they're not

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Speaker 3: talks happening, and privately the drop site, multiple Cuban officials

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Speaker 3: told us we would love to have talks about everything, democracy,

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Speaker 3: human rights, foreign direct foreign investment, Trump, Havana, like you

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Speaker 3: name it.

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Speaker 4: There they are.

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Speaker 3: They see that the objective conditions are changing, and they

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Speaker 3: are open to negotiations, like we will talk.

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Speaker 6: If you can do Mara Gaza, why not turn some

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Speaker 6: of that investment towards Havannah.

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Speaker 9: I mean all seriousness.

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Speaker 6: People like when you have Jared Kushner out at dot

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Speaker 3: Show, rightes, Yeah, exactly, and so so a senior Administration

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Speaker 3: official told us we were like, why is Trump saying that?

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Speaker 3: He said quote, He's saying that because that's what Marco

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Speaker 3: is telling him. So According to our sources, Marco Rubio

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Speaker 3: is telling Trump, yes, there are these high level negotiations

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Speaker 3: going on, with the idea being that in a couple

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Speaker 3: we tried and it didn't.

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Speaker 10: It didn't happen. They were Ricalca trant.

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Speaker 3: You know, you can't trust these these commies, so we

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Speaker 3: just need to do you know, complete and total regime change.

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Speaker 3: He wanted to do complete regime change in Venezuela. He

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Speaker 3: lost that argument, but he did get rid of Maduro.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't want to just replace the president of Cuba

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Speaker 6: Well, and that's a significant distinction between Venezuela and Cuba

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Speaker 6: at this point. I mean, Cuba has and you can

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Speaker 6: explain this better, but the odds that if you tap

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Speaker 6: in somebody in Cuba, you don't necessarily have a compliant

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Speaker 6: Delca Rodriguez in Cuba because you have this like vast infrastructure.

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Speaker 10: Although at this point you might like because there's that's

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Speaker 10: the question, they're so.

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Speaker 6: Beaten down right, But I mean, like Cuba has a

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Speaker 6: decades long tradition of communists, the.

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Speaker 4: One party state.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, uh so Trump has cut off all oil.

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Speaker 3: He is, and he he told Mexico, if you're sending oil,

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Speaker 3: you're getting tariffed and sanctioned. And so Cuba has responded

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Speaker 10: Now it's now what's interesting.

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Speaker 3: Into this confusing situation came a report that there were

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Speaker 4: It might be true.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know where Radcliffe is every

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Speaker 3: I thought he was your boss.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he runs all of this.

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Speaker 3: So but where where does the where does this news

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Speaker 3: This is an amazing kind of meta media story because

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Speaker 3: we're gonna we're going to talk about how kind of

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Speaker 3: news becomes news. So Politico wrote this article slash newsletter

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Speaker 3: with the headline could a Castro become our man in Havana?

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Speaker 3: And it's about these meetings between Raul Castro's the alleged

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Speaker 3: that these talks are happening. That's by a kind of

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Speaker 3: dissident blogger who lives in Havana and well known, well

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Speaker 10: She had written that these talks were happening.

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Speaker 3: But then if you read through her post and you

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Speaker 3: click through it, you get to a January thirty first

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Speaker 3: post by Carlos Cabrera Perez. This timeline is incredible, but

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Speaker 3: There's a Cuban guy who lives in Spain and if

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Speaker 3: you can find it linked to an art. Sorry, it

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Speaker 3: is complete and total gibberish. In fact, if you have

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Speaker 3: I can find I'll find that.

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Speaker 8: Well.

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Speaker 6: No, it's I mean, like you were saying, it's a

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Speaker 6: quite a window into how news becomes news and how

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Speaker 6: This is pretty egregious. I know you see this stuff

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is so, Carlos writes on Facebook Exclusive

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Speaker 3: Breaking News General castro Espin. This is Alejandro katz or Espin,

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Speaker 3: who is Robel's son. Don't put his first name in

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Speaker 3: there or whatever. It returns to Havana, awaiting a response

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Speaker 4: Cuban, he writes.

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Speaker 3: Cuban in the United States concluded this morning local time

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Speaker 3: their first round of talks in Mexico with a quote

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Speaker 3: principle of agreement to initiate a transition to Democra, the

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Speaker 3: pending final approval of the White House. Unquote, reported a

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Speaker 3: CIA official. And it's like, I can't read it. I

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Speaker 3: can't read this. It's like, you know, so like kind

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Speaker 4: The like.

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Speaker 3: If you go through this, you're like, Okay, this is

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Speaker 3: just kind of Facebook slop. This is just total gibberish,

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Speaker 3: Like like I said, maybe Ratcliffe is meeting with Audre.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, ye, I certainly would not base it

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Speaker 3: on this article. So this article then gets turned into

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Speaker 3: a dissident article in Cuba, Politico picks it up, and

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Speaker 3: then in Washington it's like, oh, these talks are happening.

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Speaker 10: I guess these talks are happening. We put up this

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Speaker 3: So I reached out to Politico and I was like, hey,

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Speaker 3: but just curious, like, did you guys have any information

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Speaker 3: reporting that talks had in fact taken place. Incredible Again,

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Speaker 3: maybe the talks are happening, but Politico is like, I'm

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Speaker 3: sorry you you thought that we were reporting something that

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no no, it was a metastory, a

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Speaker 4: meta story about chatter. It was chatter about talks.

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Speaker 3: Just relax, right, So, and the US spends tens of

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Speaker 6: I mean, we're arguably, I mean I don't even I

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Speaker 3: YES because they got shut down and Rubio came back

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Speaker 3: in and saved all of that propaganda money. Now fourteen

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Speaker 9: Or people who were talking chatter.

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Speaker 3: there's chatter and it's news anyway. So maybe there's talks,

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Speaker 6: Meanwhile, a mayor of a marezuela, if we call it

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Speaker 6: on the screen, sending oil to Israel.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's crazy.

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Speaker 3: So yes, the US controls Venezuela's oil flows now and

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Speaker 3: As the Venezuela and the current Venezuelan presidents that they're

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Speaker 3: committing a genocide, we should not do business with them.

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Speaker 10: Trump's like, I don't care what you want to do.

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Speaker 10: I'm in charge.

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Speaker 6: Well, if Venezuela is a template for potential activities in

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Speaker 9: But if Trump sees some type of.

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Speaker 6: landed on in Venezuela towards democratic elections allegedly, then I

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Speaker 6: mean it's obvious. I'm just purely talking about this from

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Speaker 6: a political perspective.

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Speaker 9: We've talked about this before.

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Speaker 6: Imagine Trump sitting next to Raoul Castro watching a baseball game,

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Speaker 6: and it wouldn't be Raoul Castro now, but like that's

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Speaker 6: what Obama did and the write freaked out. You can

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Speaker 6: see Trump doing that right, Like, you could see Trump

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Speaker 6: easily doing something like that and understanding that he could

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Speaker 6: transform Havana back into what Roy Kohane and the people

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Speaker 6: Trump spent time with in the seventies and eighties remembered

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Speaker 6: from the forties and fifties. And again, this is not

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Speaker 6: a statement on whether that's good or bad. I'm just

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Speaker 6: saying the political opportunity for a thaw with Donald Trump right.

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Speaker 9: Off the coast where he has his own resorts.

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Speaker 3: Not only that, as we reported in the piece, and

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Speaker 9: That's fascinating.

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Speaker 4: So Trump is no.

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Speaker 3: Stranger to the potential benefits to American companies of ending

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Speaker 6: So to make this argument that there's still a nuclear

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Speaker 3: Keep telling you that it was the most beautiful thing,

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: And and also you you've had Netanyah who privately admit

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Speaker 6: This was the argument at the time that the goalpost

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Speaker 4: Right right, and you can imagine anyway.

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Speaker 6: See who's putting any money down. Maybe that's Wick Cooff

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Speaker 4: With the Wick boys here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so well there'll be I'm sure interesting press conference

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Speaker 6: This is also interesting because it's a midterm year and

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Speaker 9: But today's meeting so far is closed door.

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Speaker 6: Sometime times that change is literally the last minute, like

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Speaker 10: So we'll see you're going to be there.

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Speaker 3: So some interesting developments in the the Nancy Guthrie, Yes, kidnapping,

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Speaker 3: had this super Bowl ad where they're like, hey, we're

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Speaker 6: Well, let's actually just roll it. Yeah, we have this ad.

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Speaker 7: But every year ten million go missing, and the way

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Speaker 7: outdoor cameras looking for a match. Search Party from Ring

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Speaker 6: We welcome our overlords. This this is called the pet

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Speaker 3: Also Mac Mac producer Max is pointing out before the show,

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Speaker 3: So out of ten million, like, how many did Ring

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Speaker 6: And this is about to get really dark because it's

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Speaker 6: comes in grabs what looks like he looks like he's

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Speaker 6: grabbing a bird's nest that was behind the actual camera.

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Speaker 6: So comes in and then we know there's blood on

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Speaker 6: the porch. So that does not look good for the

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Speaker 6: prospect of finding Nancy Guthrie, eighty four year old mom

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Speaker 6: of Savannah Guthrie of NBC. And people noticed, huh, this

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Speaker 6: is nest footage, it says Nest on the footage. Interesting

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Speaker 6: because investigators said she did not have a subscription to nest.

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Speaker 6: That was a point made by the Pima County Sheriff,

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Speaker 6: Kris Nanos. He said right after she disappeared that a

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Speaker 6: camera NBC reports a fix to her door had been disconnected,

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Speaker 6: that she did not have a subscription that would have

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Speaker 6: saved video, and that investigators were trying to work with

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Speaker 6: a tech company on the difficult forensic task of recovering

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Speaker 6: any video.

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Speaker 9: Well what does that mean?

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Speaker 6: Because if you don't have a subscription and your camera

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Speaker 6: is disconnected, how could there be any forensic task, even

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Speaker 6: a difficult one that would result in recovering video. So

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Speaker 6: Cash Patel is now saying the FBI got the video

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Speaker 6: from Quote back end Systems. Again, this is a company

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Speaker 6: that is owned by Alphabet. Ring is the competitor owned

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Speaker 6: by Amazon. These are not random small businesses. Yeah, these

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Speaker 6: are defense contracting companies, right that is I mean the

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Speaker 6: pitch is going to be if if this information she's

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Speaker 6: disconnected or whatever, it helps them find Nancy Guthrie. God bless,

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Speaker 6: We're all going to be so happy. It is going

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Speaker 6: to become a pitch, just like the Puppy Ring commercial

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Speaker 6: that you need these everyone put a camera on your door,

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Speaker 6: because we'll be able to scan people's eyes, we'll be

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Speaker 6: able to find people in these emergency situations. Doesn't matter

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Speaker 6: if you have a subscription, we're watching.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and who's back end the nsas Like.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy nice cash would be a little more forthcoming

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Speaker 3: about where this footage came from.

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Speaker 9: Back end systems.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so once again everybody's suspicion feels like these things

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Speaker 3: are listening to me. No, you're crazy. They're not listening

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Speaker 3: to you. Up later admit, yeah, they're actually listening to or.

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Speaker 9: Just disconnected, right if you're worried, just disconnected.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, or yeah, and it's if it's not storing the footage,

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Speaker 3: if you don't have a subscription, or if you don't

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Speaker 3: pay for the like higher end subscription. Yep, got my

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Speaker 3: car stolen and the police are like, got the footage?

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Speaker 10: And I was like no, but it turns out maybe

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Speaker 10: they did.

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Speaker 3: Well, like we don't pay for any Well, now we

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Speaker 3: do the local we pay for everything and don't come

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Speaker 3: anywhere near us, but at the time we did not,

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Speaker 3: So I like, no, but so we don't have the

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Speaker 3: footage because we aren't paying for this like storage or whatever.

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Speaker 9: Well, the locales might not the federal government might.

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Speaker 10: To your point, exactly, somebody's got it.

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Speaker 6: Because the local police said, well, she didn't have a subscription,

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Speaker 6: it was disconnected, and then the FBI swoops in a

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Speaker 6: week later and says, we got it from back end systems.

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Speaker 6: The argument, of course, is going to be if we

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Speaker 6: find out, they're going to say that it's stored, it's

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Speaker 6: encrypted and only used for training these AI systems or whatever,

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Speaker 6: which is not inocuous.

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Speaker 9: It doesn't even sound innocuous.

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Speaker 6: But that's there's potentially just a capitalist explanation behind all

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Speaker 6: of this. There's probably something darker too if this turns

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Speaker 6: out to be the case, but it's that they're training

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Speaker 6: their AI. Even if you don't have a subscription, they're

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Speaker 6: training their AI and you never have access to it.

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Speaker 6: So insane, insane detail that people were right to pick

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Speaker 6: up on. When you have the local sheriff saying no subscription,

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Speaker 6: is disconnected and then the FBI swooping in a week

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Speaker 6: later and saying we recovered the video. Quite interesting and

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Speaker 6: we'll see this is a new development, so we're gonna

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Speaker 6: have to see how Google responds.

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Speaker 3: And speaking of completely insane things, we didn't cover this

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Speaker 3: because we don't know what the f is going on.

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Speaker 3: But as you may have seen, the FAI announced that

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Speaker 3: for ten days they're closing the airspace over El Paso.

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Speaker 9: Has happened early this morning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now saying that, like what shooting at drones like

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Speaker 3: cartel drones, that's a highly suspicious answer.

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Speaker 10: What on earth is going on in l Pass?

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Speaker 3: So we know that they have the what Camp Montana,

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Speaker 3: the massive detention facility inside for Bliss.

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Speaker 4: Shutting it all down for ten days?

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Speaker 10: Did they catch aliens?

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Speaker 3: Actual aliens, not like illegal like extra I mean, like

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Speaker 3: not from Mexico aliens.

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Speaker 6: In about a matter of like two hours, they went

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Speaker 6: from a ten day closure to just a total removal

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Speaker 6: of the FA notice.

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Speaker 4: So so it's back open.

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Speaker 9: It's back open.

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Speaker 6: So you can bet Sager will have thoughts on that

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Speaker 6: for tomorrow's edition of Breaking Points. Ryan closes out here

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Speaker 6: with this interview you did with a New Jersey pri.

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Speaker 3: Americ Canada and so an Alilia Mahea defeated a wide

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Speaker 3: field of candidates, including the like local party boss, including

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Speaker 3: the APAX supported candidate, and including former Representative Tom Malanowski,

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Speaker 3: who was who had been pulling slightly ahead, although he

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Speaker 3: was always a very credible candidate in this race because

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Speaker 3: she had the backing of AOC, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Bernie Sanders,

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Speaker 3: the entire kind of infrastructure, plus all the mo mentum

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Speaker 3: behind it. There was a moment in the primary for

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Speaker 3: people who were paying close attention to the district that

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Speaker 3: went viral locally and even a little bit nationally. At

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Speaker 3: a care New Jersey forum, all of the candidates were asked,

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Speaker 3: in a kind of repeat of the New York Mom

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Speaker 3: Donnie debate, if they but they were asked, will you

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Speaker 3: refuse an APAX sponsored a pro Israel lobby sponsored trip

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Speaker 3: to Israel?

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Speaker 4: Only?

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Speaker 3: And and do you believe that Israel's committing and genid?

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Speaker 3: Let's let's roll that clip because I think you're going

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Speaker 3: to see, like how she kind of separated herself here,

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Speaker 3: I showed hands.

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Speaker 8: Who here would publicly it's inclined to participate in a

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Speaker 8: freshman congressional trip to Israel sponsored by proswel Horn efficacy organizations.

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Speaker 3: Do you agree with the United Nations Commission of Inquiry

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Speaker 3: and many other human rights organizations that Israel has committed

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Speaker 3: a genocide in Gossam?

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Speaker 4: Showing the hands?

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Speaker 7: If you agree with the Nation's inquiry that Israel has

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Speaker 7: committed a genocide in Gossen.

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Speaker 4: Wow, please talk.

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Speaker 1: Right now, because this is not a fair question because

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Speaker 1: side is dividing world.

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Speaker 7: Okay, so we just dividing wet side of the other.

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Speaker 3: And in Jimmy Carter, who's the only person who Thank

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Speaker 3: you Zich.

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Speaker 4: You cannot get peace.

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Speaker 8: You cannot peace.

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Speaker 4: Si divis sorry, thank you Jose.

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Speaker 3: And so last night, while Emily was partying at this

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Speaker 3: YouTube conference, I sat down with an.

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Speaker 6: Alilia may not producers mag and Griffin.

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Speaker 3: There's like a conference in DC for like creators. We

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Speaker 3: have to rap soon because Emily's going to do a

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Speaker 3: panel with Sager.

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Speaker 10: Is that right? Who's who's on the panel. Somebody's on

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Speaker 10: the panel in any event.

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Speaker 3: So here this is a pre recorded interview from last

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Speaker 3: night with Mahea, who is now on her way. Is

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Speaker 3: the Democratic nominee for this district and the special election

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Speaker 3: is coming up in April against a against the Republican

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Speaker 3: challenger there. She'll then have to recompete for the primary

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Speaker 3: in June. Here's my conversation with Mayhea. Joining us now

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Speaker 3: is Antlilia Mahea, who just yesterday was declared the official

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Speaker 3: victor Tom Malinowski on Tuesday conceded that there wouldn't be

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Speaker 3: enough votes for him to mount a comeback with the

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Speaker 3: final tallies in New Jerseys eleventh Strict, which makes her

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Speaker 3: the Democratic nominee headed towards the general election. Its problem,

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Speaker 3: an Alilia, thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 8: Thank you, thank you for having me. It's nice to

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Speaker 8: see you again. It's nice to see you.

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Speaker 4: Too, it has been.

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Speaker 3: And one of the kind of privileges that I get

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Speaker 3: in kind of covering the progressive world now for twenty

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Speaker 3: years or so is to see people move from one

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Speaker 3: organization to another and one cause that's all the same cause,

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Speaker 3: watch them kind of rise through the ranks, and then

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Speaker 3: once in a while somebody becomes a member of Congress

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Speaker 3: that you don't.

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Speaker 4: Expect, you and me, both, you and me both.

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Speaker 3: And in your advocacy world, we refer to those people

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Speaker 3: as electeds.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if the regular people know that it's

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Speaker 3: a weird phrase because it's not. I don't know what

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Speaker 3: kind of word is that electeds.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Usually I shorten it to EO elected official. I'm like,

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Speaker 8: that's an.

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Speaker 3: EO, that's an EO over there, so now you are

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Speaker 3: on the way to becoming an EO. So let's yes. Well,

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Speaker 3: first of all, tell people the general election. Kamala Harris

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Speaker 3: won this district by what eight points or something like that.

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Speaker 3: So what there's a moderate? Well they call them moderate,

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Speaker 3: So we'll borrow the mainstream media's phrasing. There Republican running

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Speaker 3: in this district. What's the race looking like? And when

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Speaker 3: is the general election?

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Speaker 8: For the special I mean, I'm going to say I

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Speaker 8: reject the idea that they're my opponent is actually a moderate.

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Speaker 8: I think anyone that won't denounce what Trump the Trump

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Speaker 8: administration is doing, won't openly denounce what Ice is doing

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Speaker 8: to American citizens, won't openly denounce the turning of weaponry

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Speaker 8: on American citizens that are protecting and exerting their constitutional rights,

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Speaker 8: that is extremism to me. But I you know, this

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Speaker 8: special election was to fill the seat vacated by Mikey

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Speaker 8: Cheryl when she became governor. Candidates essentially had ten weeks

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Speaker 8: to run at the most compressed timeline. That ten week

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Speaker 8: period began in Thanksgiving Thanksgiving week, when we had to

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Speaker 8: collect signatures to get on the ballot vote by mail.

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Speaker 8: Ballots were released right before on December twenty second, right

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Speaker 8: before the holidays, and then we held the special primary

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Speaker 8: on Thursday, February fifth, that's a Thursday only in Jersey, y'all.

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Speaker 8: But we were able to emerge victorious, even though you know,

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Speaker 8: I jumped in late. But we as organizers, if you know,

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Speaker 8: as you shared, I come from movement. I ran the

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Speaker 8: New Jersey Working Families Party. Obviously I worked for Bernie.

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Speaker 8: I was this national political director, and my day job

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Speaker 8: has been to be the co director of the Center

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Speaker 8: for Popular Democracy, which is this network of base building

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Speaker 8: power building organizations. But you know, we as an organizer,

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Speaker 8: someone with that kind of experience would hit the ground.

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Speaker 8: We knocked on doors, hundreds of thousands of phone calls,

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Speaker 8: and we emerge victorious almost two to one on election day,

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Speaker 8: which I feel really proud about.

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Speaker 3: And what's what's so intimidating to me about congressional districts

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Speaker 3: is there is there vast size like this, seven hundred

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Speaker 3: thousand or plus people like that's that's just a staggering

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Speaker 3: number of people. You can't yes, no, you can't meet

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Speaker 3: every single one of them. Now in a primary like this,

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Speaker 3: you end up needing you know, a much smaller handful

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Speaker 3: of votes. So so when when you went into this race,

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Speaker 3: we're talking about North Jersey like me. Now, they're working

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Speaker 3: class parts of every congressional district.

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Speaker 4: So it's it's something.

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Speaker 8: This is suburban Jersey. This is a commuter town. Folks

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Speaker 8: usually live here because they work in the city. They

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Speaker 8: want access to the infrastructure, you know, the green space

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Speaker 8: or schools.

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Speaker 3: They work in fine finance, they work in pharma, arma

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Speaker 3: one of pharma. Yeah, so you won.

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Speaker 4: You know, hedge funds, hedge fund guys, hedge fund women,

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Speaker 4: private equity, pharma execs, like how like what, okay, what

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Speaker 4: did you do?

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Speaker 8: Well? The first thing I'll tell you is I live

668
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Speaker 8: in this district. Even progressives live in the verbs. I've

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Speaker 8: been here for thirteen years, some of them, some of us.

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Speaker 8: Here's here's the deal. The truth is this economy is

671
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 8: hitting everybody. See when you double and triple healthcare costs,

672
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Speaker 8: even it's individual you know, small business owners, professionals, doctors, lawyers, architects,

673
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Speaker 8: my neighbors, we're all complaining about the fact that they

674
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Speaker 8: could no longer afford healthcare insurance right and to manage

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Speaker 8: their families when child care costs are upwards of twenty

676
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Speaker 8: four twenty eight thirty thousand dollars a year. I pay

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Speaker 8: twenty four thousand dollars a year for childcare. So when

678
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Speaker 8: you're talking about that kind of expense or we may

679
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 8: not turn, we may not spiral off the price of eggs.

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Speaker 8: But you can bine all those things, rising healthcare costs,

681
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Speaker 8: rising childcare costs. You know, these tariffs impacted small business

682
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Speaker 8: owners wildly, and so you combine all of that that

683
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 8: was impacting community. I've lived here, I'm an organizer. I

684
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 8: talked to my neighbors. I knew it. So my message

685
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 8: was we need to remove the stranglehold that big money

686
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Speaker 8: has on our economy and our democracy. We have to

687
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Speaker 8: remember that an oligarch is or an authoritarian is simply

688
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 8: a corrupt politician who has gotten a taste from stealing

689
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Speaker 8: from the people, and they want to keep the grift going,

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Speaker 8: so they have to be they have to deter any

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Speaker 8: kind of accountability. And an oligarch is essentially a corporate

692
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Speaker 8: interests that had gotten the taste of stealing from their consumers,

693
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Speaker 8: from their clients, from their workers, and they want to

694
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Speaker 8: keep the grift going, and so they need less regulation.

695
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Speaker 8: In order to keep it, keep the jig up right.

696
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Speaker 8: And so the thing that stands between the authoritarian and

697
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 8: the oligarch is an informed community. So I was knocking

698
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Speaker 8: on doors talking to people pointing that out, and that resonate.

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00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 8: That message resonated with folks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in my own life, I've I talked to plenty

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Speaker 3: of these upper middle class professional types and they know

702
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Speaker 3: that I have been kind of covering the Bernie AOC

703
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Speaker 3: world for as long as they've known me, and so

704
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 3: they'll talk to me at the soccer games or whatever

705
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Speaker 3: about this stuff.

706
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Speaker 4: And twenty fourteen, fifteen sixteen, there.

707
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Speaker 3: Was a lot of hostility from them to that world,

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Speaker 3: like they they saw him as kind of hostile to

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Speaker 3: their interests in what they thought the Democratic Party ought

710
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Speaker 3: to because these are mostly Democrats for the most part.

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Speaker 3: You know, that started to soften a little bit with

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Speaker 3: with aos see, but twenty twenty they were still quite

713
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Speaker 3: skeptical of Bernie. But now they're like, I think I

714
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:11,439
Speaker 3: think Bernie actually was right. They're open to him. They're

715
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Speaker 3: definitely open to AOC who like they now think of

716
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Speaker 3: as like a normy Democrat. And I think part of

717
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 3: it is that they believe that they're probably okay themselves,

718
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Speaker 3: whether they're not necessarily sure, but they're very worried about

719
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Speaker 3: their kids, about what this country's becoming and right for

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Speaker 3: their kids. Not the types of people that have like

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Speaker 3: generational wealth, they're going to help their kids. They them

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Speaker 3: in the nice schools, are going to help them through college,

723
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Speaker 3: but they're not going to like set them up for life.

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Speaker 3: And so did you see that too?

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Speaker 4: Like what is.

726
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Speaker 5: Absolutely absolutely I had folks talk about how they may

727
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Speaker 5: be able to afford, they may have been able to

728
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Speaker 5: afford to buy a home, but they're worried about what's

729
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Speaker 5: going to happen to their children. And the fact that

730
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Speaker 5: private equity firms are buying up starter homes resonates with

731
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 5: them and anchors them talking about how we have to

732
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Speaker 5: regulate That hits a nerve because they could see that

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Speaker 5: this basic thing that they took for granted for themselves

734
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Speaker 5: is going to be out of reach for their children.

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Speaker 5: When I talk to folks about, like I said, health insurance,

736
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Speaker 5: I talked to a neighbor whose husband is a doctor.

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Speaker 5: They are professionals, and they were discussing shifting from comprehensive

738
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Speaker 5: health insurance to catastrophic so that they could continue to

739
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Speaker 5: afford their child's tuition. And this is a doctor. So

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Speaker 5: we have across this district. What I know, what I've

741
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Speaker 5: learned in the thirteen years that I've lived here, talking

742
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Speaker 5: to my neighbors, engaging people. And this is probably true

743
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Speaker 5: across America that in our communities, you know, especially places

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Speaker 5: in which you know on paper seen like they are

745
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 5: economically stable, right, high home ownership, high education levels. People

746
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 5: stretch to be here. And so if you lose a client,

747
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Speaker 5: if you're a contractor you lose a client, or if

748
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 5: the prices for your small business go up, or just

749
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 5: the instability of the moment make create that precariousness, you

750
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 5: start to spin, you increase your dependence on credit card

751
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Speaker 5: debt or credit cards, you find yourself in credit card debt.

752
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 5: Maybe you are house rich for cash poor. And so

753
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 5: this economy is in fact hitting working class, working poor,

754
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 5: and middle class people. And it's not surprising because we

755
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 5: have an like an unfair and imbalance in our economy

756
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Speaker 5: and our democracy. I mean, Bernie said it over and over.

757
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Speaker 5: It's the billionaire class are trying to buy our democracy,

758
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,280
Speaker 5: and they're willing to trade democracy for an extra zero

759
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Speaker 5: in their offshore bank account. You add that to the

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Speaker 5: violence you are seeing in Minnesota and Chicago, in California

761
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Speaker 5: and in this district. Just today, I heard about shots

762
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 5: being fired in Roxberry, New Jersey, just outside the district.

763
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Speaker 5: We had on a Sunday morning, ice agents go to

764
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Speaker 5: an early Sunday morning, go into a laundrymat and arrest

765
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Speaker 5: a teenager. We know that we have this precarious situation

766
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Speaker 5: happening across the country, and people are concerned right to you.

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Speaker 3: So and I feel like it's I'm curious if you've

768
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Speaker 3: got this sense from people that it's two sides of

769
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Speaker 3: the same coin, in the sense that they elected Trump.

770
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Speaker 3: The country elected Trump because they wanted egg prices down

771
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Speaker 3: and you know, grocery prices down, and it was a

772
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Speaker 3: stand in. Those things were a stand in for things

773
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Speaker 3: for getting unaffordable. And instead we get this chaos and

774
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Speaker 3: this violence. And so it's not just that they're against that,

775
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Speaker 3: it's that this seems to be the only thing that

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Speaker 3: Trump cares about. Is that why, Like, I mean, did

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Speaker 3: it resonate on both levels for people?

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Speaker 8: Yes?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, I mean, you know, I saw a turning point

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Speaker 5: after the murder of missus good.

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Speaker 8: In Minnesota.

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Speaker 5: I saw folks who were very concerned about what was

783
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Speaker 5: happening and how they could protect community. I saw folks who,

784
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 5: you know, most certainly when mister Pretty was murdered, also

785
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,479
Speaker 5: just find themselves in complete and utter shock. We had

786
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 5: been having town halls in which we incorporated ice trainings

787
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 5: to make sure that people understood their rights, so that

788
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 5: people understood the difference between a judicial warrant and a

789
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 5: administrative warrant, so that they understood how they would protect

790
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 5: themselves from undo an unfair illegal search and seizures. And

791
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Speaker 5: you know, I to speaking to the chaos. People are

792
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 5: very very concerned about what they are seeing out of

793
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 5: this administration. Most people, what they desire is just the

794
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 5: ability to live their lives, raise their kids, have an

795
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 5: opportunity and call it a day, you know, watch the

796
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 5: Super Bowl, to hang out with your friends. And what

797
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 5: we are finding is this increasing not only divisiveness, which

798
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 5: you know, a lot of times we have seen in

799
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Speaker 5: our country for sure. I mean, this is a nation

800
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Speaker 5: that has had its ups and downs, but what we

801
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 5: are seeing in this moment I think is just shocking

802
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 5: and jarring our communities into action. I also think that

803
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 5: you know, I as an organizer, as a trainer, I've

804
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 5: spent many years trying to teach my community and leaders

805
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 5: about how we are in fact in an overtin window

806
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 5: tug of war with MAGA and with Donald Trump for

807
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Speaker 5: the last like it's hard to believe for ten years,

808
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 5: and in effect for folks who are listening that are

809
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 5: unaware of the Overton window is quite simply what is

810
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Speaker 5: the realm of the acceptable that we will accept from

811
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Speaker 5: our government. Donald Trump has been trying to yank that

812
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Speaker 5: all the way into fascism in my opinion, and essentially

813
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 5: shifted where the center quote unquote is at. Well, it

814
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 5: is our responsibility to yank it back, and that means

815
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 5: that we need to speak bold ideas. We need to

816
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 5: elect bold progressives where we can, so that we can

817
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 5: recalibrate our nation back into greater normalcy and hopefully rebuild

818
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 5: beyond what we had. But I mean, we're going to

819
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Speaker 5: be doing this for generations, I.

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Speaker 3: Think, And any conversation of this race, of course, isn't

821
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Speaker 3: complete without the complete and utter face plant that APAC

822
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Speaker 3: took in this race.

823
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Speaker 5: So for people been to a better crew, so.

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Speaker 4: They took a gigantic pile of money.

825
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Speaker 6: Uh.

826
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Speaker 4: Yes, they didn't just light it on fire.

827
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Speaker 3: So they threw it at Tom Malinowski, who was fairly

828
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,280
Speaker 3: pro Israel, former member of Congress, former State Department official,

829
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Speaker 3: who had the temerity to say that, perhaps, you know,

830
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Speaker 3: if Israel commits some particular grave human rights abuses, then

831
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 3: we should consider potentially not promising, just maybe think about,

832
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Speaker 3: you know, dialing back a little bit on some weapons systems, like.

833
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Speaker 5: Which is it was the correct thing to do if

834
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Speaker 5: we are a sub law do we give exactly should

835
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Speaker 5: we give a blank check to just anybody?

836
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Speaker 6: No?

837
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Speaker 5: But what they did was go after let's exactly go ahead. No, no,

838
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 5: you go ahead.

839
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean you you witnessed it up close. But

840
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Speaker 3: for that they dropped what two plus million dollars, ironically

841
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 3: accusing him of being too close to Trump and for

842
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 3: supporting funding for ICE. Which is amazing that a pack

843
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 3: which is mostly Republican funded, is using Republican money to

844
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 3: accuse somebody of supporting Ice and Trump. And it drove down,

845
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Speaker 3: it drove up as negatives. It hurt Malinowski in the

846
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Speaker 3: final strategy, I.

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Speaker 5: Want yes for sure, for sure, I will say you

848
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Speaker 5: know I was on the doors and on social and

849
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Speaker 5: in community. I think Malanowski's supporters were very vocal in

850
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 5: pushing against a PAC and trying to tell voters what

851
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 5: was happening. I joined in. I most certainly stepped up

852
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Speaker 5: and denounced what a PAX was doing to Tom. But

853
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 5: to be honest, I when I first jumped in, I

854
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 5: had stated that I would reject a PACK funding that

855
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 5: in fact, every candidate should, because this is what they do.

856
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:02,760
Speaker 5: Leopards eat your face. The interesting thing here is that,

857
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Speaker 5: you know, really the lesson that APAC taught New Jersey

858
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Speaker 5: eleven New Jersey and voters across the country is that

859
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 5: they are willing to destroy friend or foe unless you

860
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Speaker 5: commit to and pledge blind obedience. And that should to

861
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Speaker 5: me that actually, forget whether or not they helped elect me,

862
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 5: it's the fact that they told on themselves so clearly

863
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 5: that this is just I hope it is a turning point.

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Speaker 5: There are other special elections happening in New Jersey. Bonnie

865
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Speaker 5: Watson Coleman announced that she wasn't going to run again,

866
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Speaker 5: so there's a there is a contest for her seat.

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Speaker 4: Adam Adam ham Away, right.

868
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Speaker 5: Yes, and there is there is this you know, again,

869
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Speaker 5: I think you know a candidate in that race are

870
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 5: are speaking out against APAC. Now you have even moderates

871
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 5: and Republicans speaking out against APAC and their practices. And

872
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 5: to me, that is the biggest lessons. It's this idea

873
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 5: that unless you pledge blind obedience, you you know this,

874
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 5: this mptit will come after you. And the only way

875
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 5: in which we free ourselves of it is to is

876
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 5: to disempower them by not taking their money and by

877
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 5: calling them out for what they've done.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, in the in Bonnie Watson Coleman's district, there's

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Speaker 3: a guy named doctor Adam Hamaway, who you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: sure who is a doctor who's gone repeatedly to Gaza

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Speaker 3: to do missions there.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I remember.

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Speaker 3: When he first launched, somebody asked them, what are you

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Speaker 3: going to refuse a PAC money? And it's like, well,

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Speaker 3: Israel was like blocking him from leaving Gaza and like

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Speaker 3: blocking water from getting into the hospital where he was working.

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Speaker 3: I think work pretty safely. Thanks where he's going to

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Speaker 3: come down on this question?

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Speaker 4: But so what what have you heard from other Democrats?

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Speaker 3: So once you win out, now you've been endorsed by

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Speaker 3: Mikey chryl by the governor, well the government she's now governor,

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Speaker 3: but by a host of establishment Democrats.

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Speaker 4: So you're not because you're not the party.

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Speaker 5: Cory Booker, the delegate that congressional delegation, as well as

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Speaker 5: my opponents. You know, this is.

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Speaker 4: Prim Booker is an interesting one.

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Speaker 3: So what, like, what did they tell you about what

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Speaker 3: they thought of APEX intervention in the race?

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Speaker 5: Honestly, what we mostly spoke about was how we needed

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Speaker 5: this was a moment for us to turn to and

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Speaker 5: build unity. That primaries are about, you know, sifting out

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Speaker 5: ideas and seeing what resonates with voters and then the

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Speaker 5: general we have to come together. Both Corey Booker, Senator

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Speaker 5: Booker and Senator Andy Kim have both committed to me

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Speaker 5: their support not only through this primary, but all the

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Speaker 5: way through to November, or better yet, this general, this

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Speaker 5: special General, and all the way through to November. I have,

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Speaker 5: you know, I'm receiving the support of institutional players and

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Speaker 5: the party itself. But here's the thing, right, Like, the

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Speaker 5: truth is that organizers activists across the country. In order

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Speaker 5: for us to be effective, we actually have to know

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Speaker 5: who the power brokers are. It's not about for organizers

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Speaker 5: and really for the left, the way in which we

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Speaker 5: build governing power is not just to call the question

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Speaker 5: and throw rocks from the outside, but it's for us

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Speaker 5: to understand that while proximity to power is not power.

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Speaker 5: So we don't kiss up to the institution, but we

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Speaker 5: do come you know, we do play ball. We do

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Speaker 5: have to use our leverage and our power to be

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Speaker 5: able to demand a seat at the table so that

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Speaker 5: we can negotiate together. And so I'm not surprised that

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Speaker 5: there is unity like lining up behind to me, because

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Speaker 5: that's what we have to do in order to beat

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Speaker 5: MAGA and trump Ism. But also I've known these players

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Speaker 5: for you know, the last twenty five years. There have

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Speaker 5: been times in which we have disagreed. There have been

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Speaker 5: times in which I have pushed them hard. But then

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Speaker 5: when we get into alignment, we get into alignment. And

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Speaker 5: that's what I think we need to do in this moment,

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Speaker 5: without capitulating, without giving up on our morals and values.

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Speaker 8: At this moment, what we are focused on, what I

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Speaker 8: am focused on doing, is making sure to consolidate and

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Speaker 8: work collaboratively across the party so that I can emerge

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Speaker 8: victorious in this special general on April sixteenth. But you know,

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Speaker 8: I will remind folks who are listening. Then I have

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Speaker 8: to run in another primary in June and then again

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Speaker 8: a general in November, and so you know, I do

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Speaker 8: think that Trump Maga trump Ism is probably going to

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Speaker 8: make my job a little easier in that respect because

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Speaker 8: their overreach is going to continue. I think the Democratic

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Speaker 8: Party is shaken up across the country and almost certainly

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Speaker 8: in New Jersey to be more vocal and aggressive in

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Speaker 8: resisting and pushing back against MEGA and their overreach and

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Speaker 8: their extremism. My focus right now is getting through this

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Speaker 8: April general on April sixteenth, and then I'll be running

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Speaker 8: again this June in the regular primary and then again

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Speaker 8: in November for the regular general. And so that means,

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Speaker 8: you know, ensuring that I am uplifting the concerns of

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Speaker 8: regular voters, that I'm consolidating not only Democrats, but frankly independence,

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Speaker 8: and I think, you know, Maga, like I said, Maga

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Speaker 8: trump Ism is making my job a little easier, sadly,

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Speaker 8: with their overreach and violent authoritarianism.

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Speaker 3: By the way, has your delegation member Josh Gottheimer has

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Speaker 3: he called yet?

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Speaker 8: He actually did send me a note congratulating me. I

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Speaker 8: thought that was uh, that was a pleasant surprise, excellent.

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Speaker 3: Well on a LILYA Mahea, the Democratic nominee for New

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Speaker 3: Jersey's eleventh district. Thanks so much for joining us, and

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Speaker 3: congratulations on the.

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Speaker 8: Thank you. Hopefully i'll join you again soon.

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Speaker 4: I'll be smoothing and in studio. Can't wait to see

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Speaker 4: you guys.

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Speaker 8: And what oh yes, yes, that's gonna be awesome. Thank you, Ben,

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Speaker 8: I appreciate you later.

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Speaker 4: You got it all right. So that's uh, Alilia Mahea.

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Speaker 3: On our way to becoming a member of Congress, and

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Speaker 3: I would expect re elected again in November. Well we'll

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Speaker 3: see amazing that one of the wealthiest districts in the

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Speaker 3: country is going to send a kind of berniecrat to Congress.

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Speaker 3: And I think it's it's it's an extraordinarily significant development

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Speaker 3: for the reshaping of the Democratic Party.

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Speaker 6: Right for a long time, it's been Rokama, who's a

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Speaker 6: representative kind of Bernie Democrat who represents one of the

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Speaker 6: wealthiest districts in the country.

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Speaker 9: And if anything, the populists have.

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Speaker 6: Been you know, we talked about this research from CGCN,

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Speaker 6: the lobbying firm that shows populists are from the poorer

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Speaker 6: districts Freedom Caucus squad. They're representing the poor, poorer district

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Speaker 6: so it is a very interesting.

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Speaker 9: Development on the left.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, not so much anymore. I'm right.

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Speaker 3: Well, we will see you on Friday, Crystal and sagerb

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Speaker 3: be back here tomorrow.

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Speaker 9: See you later.

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