1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:01,560 Speaker 1: All from Smelly. 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 2: Hello, is this the get go? Yeah? Who is this? 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 3: Hey? 4 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 4: Smelly? 5 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: Have we spoken before? Smelly? 6 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: We have not. This is my third time call, so 7 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: I'm really excited to stick to. 8 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 5: You, Alisle House. 9 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 4: Your new year going so far? 10 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: Am I the first caller of the new year? 11 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: Yes? You are? You're my first call of the new year? 12 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 2: What's uh? What's cracking? Smelly? 13 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: Not too much? My man started listening to a couple 14 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, and I wanted to give a call because, yeah, 15 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just turned thirty years old, moved 16 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 1: back to my parents' basement here recently. I went through 17 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: some kind of rough year the past year. 18 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 4: I was living the. 19 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: Living in a trailer in the woods, kind of doing 20 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: some hard drugs and ship and then ended up like 21 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: getting drugged by some people that I thought were close 22 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: to me, HP and me and I kind of got 23 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: sexually assaulted. So I woke up with a assle next morning, 24 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: and it was not something I wanted to go through 25 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: by any means. So you know, yeah, just kind of 26 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: wanted to call and then get your advice and see 27 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: what you have to say about it, mister gay. 28 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: Okay, Beginning twenty twenty four with uh with a lot, 29 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: How did you end up in a forest and a 30 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: trailer doing drugs? 31 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: So I'd moved out to I was in California at 32 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: the time, So I moved out to California out of college. 33 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: I had a really good job, but I was like 34 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: super loss. I was just like, you know, yeah, at 35 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: the end of it, I had worked for seven years 36 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: and technology sales and like made my way up and 37 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: was account executive, was making one hundred and fifty thousand 38 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: dollars a year. But then COVID happened and I was 39 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: able to move wherever I wanted, and I was still 40 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,559 Speaker 1: feeling off. I was still twenty three at the time, 41 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: you know. So I decided to move to the woods, 42 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: and I wanted to learn at the homestead and at 43 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: a farm, and I did. I did learn that. I 44 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: learned how to raise chickens and ducks and work with goats, 45 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: and then how to grow weed and all that good stuff. 46 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: So I learned a lot out there, for sure, about 47 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: like homestead and living off the land, living off grid, 48 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: and I kind of wanted to learn that in a 49 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: certain way, I guess. But then, yeah, the stress of 50 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: my job, I ended up getting this really bad car 51 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: accident in twenty twenty one, like almost died, hit a tree, 52 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: fellow people on the wheel hit a tree. Yeah, yeah, 53 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: it was really bad. So then I ended up quitting 54 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: my job after that and kind of starting to explore 55 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: the homesteading life more, you know what I mean, diving 56 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: more into that side of myself. It was kind of 57 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: like the movie Into the Wild. It felt like I 58 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: think it was a lot of ego going through that. 59 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 2: I don't know sure, yeah, I mean Into the Wild 60 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 2: ended with the guy dying somebody that you didn't die. Well, yeah, 61 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: see you How long were you in the trailer for. 62 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: Let's see, it was probably like eight months? 63 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 2: Okay, what kind of drugs were you doing? 64 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: I was doing maths or yeah, Crystal. 65 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: Okay, are you clean from from meth now now that 66 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 2: you're moving out of the woods, Yes. 67 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: Sir, Yeah, I've been cleaning for over a year now. 68 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 2: That's great. 69 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: I stop drinking hard liquor about a year ago too. 70 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: They're kind of a combination of the two things. I 71 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: was like finishing one seven five and three days and 72 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: banging a ounce of meth in like a month. 73 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: Were you alone in the trail No, I. 74 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: Was on I was on this lady's land, like my 75 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: landlady was. She had a house like within half a 76 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: mile that I could walk through and we checked it 77 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: in every day. And then I had a girl that 78 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: was like my girlfriend at the time, and she would 79 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: come to see me and spend days with me at 80 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: the time, Okay, which is very magical actually great. 81 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 2: And then what was the catalyst for leaving the woods 82 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: and coming back home? 83 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: It was definitely a sexual assault for sure. That just 84 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: kind of woke me up, like snapped me into a wow. Yeah, 85 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: you know, m hm. That definitely snapped me out of 86 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: a lot of the kind of whatever you want to 87 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: call it, the fog. I was into whatever. 88 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: M And when you how long ago was it that 89 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 2: you left the trailer and came back to your parents' house. 90 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: It's been it's been like eight months now. 91 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, April, how how have the eight months been? 92 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: It's my good you know it took I mean, yeah, 93 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: I'm still getting over the fact that I'm thirty in 94 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: my parents' basement. But once I've kind of re established 95 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: that relationship and the fact that I'm safe and. 96 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 2: Health, I think I think there's several worse things to 97 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 2: be than thirty living in your mom's basement. One of 98 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 2: them is probably doing math in a trailer in the woods. 99 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: So i'd say you're alling up for a trajectory. I agree, 100 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: Where do you want to go from here? 101 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, that has been traumatic a couple 102 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,679 Speaker 1: of years, right, just kind of like going from making 103 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: that much money to not making any money now. But 104 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: then I've learned a lot of skills and now I'm 105 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: kind of I'm doing lands I had done landscaping over 106 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 1: the summer and not doing you know, door dash anything 107 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: I can kind of make a couple extra bucks on. 108 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: So I think it's kind of figuring. But I also, 109 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: you know, I got a college degree, so it's like 110 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: I'm kind of deciding between do I I really like 111 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: working on my hands, so I kind of want to 112 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: go to trade school, but I also could go get 113 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: a master's degree and like natural resources stewardship or something 114 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: where it would be like working with the land and 115 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: indigenous communities or certain communities that have big pots of 116 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: land that need help like managing you know. So yeah, 117 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, that's just kind of thing, but I yeah, 118 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: I always changed my mind too. 119 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 2: What's your degree in? 120 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,679 Speaker 1: It was a sustainable systems management, a Bachelor of Science. 121 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 2: That's cool. Did you ever hold a job that was 122 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 2: related to your degree? 123 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: Not directly. I I'd went into sales just because, Yeah, 124 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: I was moderately good at it back when I was 125 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: like a soft more in college in college, and I 126 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: kind of stuck with that for seven years. So yeah, 127 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: I did different yeah companies and then tech companies. 128 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: Are you still with your girlfriend? 129 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: Oh no, she's back in California still Yeah. 130 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: Okay, mm hmm. What's your relationship like with your parents 131 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 2: that you're staying with? 132 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: It's solid for sure. I'm very blessed. I'm very very 133 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: lucky to have. Yeah, I'm better, you know, alive, enable 134 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: and willing to yeah, take me in and kind of 135 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: support me and be there for me in that way. 136 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: So I'm very. 137 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 5: Grateful for that. 138 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 2: M Now, do you have like friends or or any 139 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: other kind of like a community besides just your parents? 140 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, no doubt. 141 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: So I have a lot of I'm back like it's 142 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: obviously I'm from where I'm originally from now or I'm 143 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: back where I'm from Ridgily from So I have all 144 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: my hometown friends that I've been reconnecting with all these 145 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: past eight months or so, so I'm definitely close with 146 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: them for sure. Yeah, I'm gonna start doing some coaching 147 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: in the spring, so that'll be good to kind of 148 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: like that's my first like group organization that I'm kind 149 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:23,559 Speaker 1: of getting myself back into since working in corporate life. 150 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: So that'll be good. 151 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 6: M h. 152 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like that's important. You know, I've I've 153 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 2: spent many a time just isolated, and uh, it's probably 154 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 2: not good. It's probably not healthy. I'm no doctor lizard guy. 155 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 2: I'm just a dumbass with the podcast. But it's probably 156 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: it's probably it's probably healthy. Okay, So you're getting yourself 157 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 2: back out around other human beings, not isolated in the woods. 158 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 2: You're clean off of myth. Hmmm. Again, everything you've told 159 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 2: me sounds as though, uh, you were on an upward 160 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 2: trajectory as I'm talking to you right now. Do you 161 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 2: do you believe that about yourself? 162 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: Certainly? Yes, Yeah, I definitely do. I guess this is 163 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: something you know, two years ago, when I was working corporate, 164 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: I never thought I would be doing a trailer kind 165 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: of things. That's like I don't talk about it often, right, 166 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 1: and so I really appreciate you've been here to be 167 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 1: able to yeah, kind of help me air it out 168 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: a little bit. 169 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 5: It means a lot. 170 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, though, is the grass is always 171 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 2: green or right, because there's so many people with corporate 172 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 2: jobs that probably wish that they were doing drugs in 173 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 2: a van in the woods, right. 174 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, hm hmm. 175 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 2: Well what's your dream, man? What do you uh, what 176 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 2: do you want to do the rest of your life? 177 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: I want to make enough money to support myself and 178 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: by a plot of land. Eventually, I want to raise 179 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 1: my chickens and my ducks and get a horse and 180 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: have some kind to live off the land, you know, 181 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: in the most sustainable way possible, but also maintain a 182 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: good connection with the community to make sure. I don't 183 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: like it, man, loss like I did in the lacked 184 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: in the past, because that was fun. 185 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 2: I like that. I don't think that you're living at home, 186 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 2: and you know, you living at home in your mom's 187 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 2: basement at thirty, I don't think that that's uh, you know, 188 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: from what I understand about you and what you want 189 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 2: to do with your life, I don't think that's any 190 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 2: kind of impediment to your goals. Not that I know 191 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 2: how to start a farm from scratch, but you know 192 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 2: something sometimes, man, and I really do believe this, Like, 193 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 2: if you're so far gone, right, if you're just like, 194 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 2: you know, just at your at your lowest, and you're 195 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: addicted to drugs and you're you know, just just at like, yeah, 196 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 2: you're all the way at the the at the left 197 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 2: hand side of the spectrum of of where you want 198 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 2: to be, and you want to get closer to the 199 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 2: right hand side, right, you got to you know, take 200 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 2: it one step at a time. 201 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 4: Right. 202 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 2: That's why I keep saying that you're on an upward 203 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 2: trajectory and that that's important because you know, you have 204 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 2: a lot of time to achieve this farm dream of yours. 205 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 2: And I think again, it seems like you're you're on 206 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: an upper trajectory, and so uh, I would celebrate those 207 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: those small victories, right, I mean what, there's no real 208 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 2: timeline to get any of this stuff done by so 209 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, I mean, don't I wouldn't chill 210 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 2: out and you know, eat all your mom's food and 211 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: use all over toilet paper and stuff. That's what I 212 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: was doing for a little bit. Yeah, you know, don't uh, 213 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 2: don't fuck, don't fucking hate yourself over it. 214 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: Right, I appreciate that. Yeah, those small steps, I think 215 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: it's Yeah, it's hard where I'm now right where it's 216 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: like so far gone or so far away. Yeah, like 217 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: I felt like I lost a lot of stuff over 218 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: the past couple of years. But yeah, thinking about it 219 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: more where I'm growing towards where I want to be. 220 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I want to talk to you. 221 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 2: You're gonna be like a Disney movie. 222 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: A Disney movie. I want to be, Like. 223 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 4: What would I be? 224 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: You want to be like a cuddlefish. I want to be. 225 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: I want to be a cuddlefish. You know, cuddlefish. 226 00:12:55,880 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 2: No, you're a farmer and you have a bunch of whimsical. 227 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: Underwater as like a cuddle fish making like a forest. 228 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 2: Hey, listen, Smelly, listen, Smelly. I I support you in 229 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 2: your dream. But the first thing you need to know 230 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 2: about being a farmer is that you can't fucking do 231 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 2: it underwater. 232 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: Debatable. You gotta you gotta google some more stuff. 233 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 2: There, geck bro if you become the first underwater farmer, 234 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 2: I will eat my words. I will personally. I'll tell 235 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 2: you this. If you become the first underwater farmer. I 236 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:37,719 Speaker 2: will grow gills and live in a cage in your 237 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 2: farm underwater. 238 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: That's my deal to you, bes give me five years. 239 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: There we go. All right, you're you're leaving, You're You're 240 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 2: It sounds to me as though you were leaving this 241 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 2: phone call slightly motivated to start up, to achieve your 242 00:13:55,920 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: goals for the purpose of enslaving me underwater. And that 243 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 2: makes me happy to hear. 244 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: I would dare say, highly motivated. 245 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 2: Well, smell, Is there anything else you want to say 246 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: to the people of the computer before we go? 247 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: Are you coming to Minnesota? 248 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 2: Am I coming to Minnesota? Where the fuck is Minnesota? 249 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 2: What's the biggest city in the Midwest? 250 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: Jonasville? It's Jonasville. 251 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 2: Is Minneapolis in Minnesota? Or is Minneapolis somewhere else? 252 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? Minneapolis, the twin cities Minneapolis and Paul Minneapolis. 253 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 2: Okay, I think I'm coming to Minneapolis and the I 254 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: don't want to promise you. I think I'm coming now, 255 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 2: but not in part one, but in part two of 256 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: like somewhere in the Fall. 257 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, they'd be dope, I do. 258 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 2: I'll come. Well, here's the thing, I'll come I'll come 259 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 2: at some point to check out the the underwater farm. 260 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 2: I guess it's in aqua. Wait, hold on, is an 261 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 2: aquarium is kind of an underwater farm, isn't it. You 262 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 2: can start an aquarium. 263 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: No, no, no, you said I'm gonna be the first one 264 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: to do it. So I'm gonna I'm gonna let you 265 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: know when I get it. But yeah, maybe already a thing. 266 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: So maybe I'm just piggy backing off someone else. I 267 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: don't know. The aquarium guys. 268 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 2: Aquarium guys. 269 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: Thank you, gek, I'll give a wonderful twenty twenty four. 270 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 2: I love you, bye, smelly. Hello, Hi there, what's your name? 271 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 5: Hi? 272 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 7: Kate? 273 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 2: Kate? What's going on? How's being a How's being a 274 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 2: human being on the earth? 275 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 7: So I was in this like year long relationship where 276 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 7: the guy like really screwed me over, like he cheated 277 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 7: on me and lied to me and just kind of 278 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 7: like strung me along. And it even started, actually the 279 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 7: whole relationship started. And I'll regret this forever, but the 280 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 7: relationship kind of even started with him cheating on his 281 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 7: ex girlfriend with me. 282 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So. 283 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 7: I mean I will regret this literally to the day. 284 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 7: And I but like I was like stupid, and I 285 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 7: was like, oh, that's because I'm special and she sucks 286 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 7: blah blah blah. Sure, but obviously he like immediately tried 287 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 7: to attend between me. It lasted for like a year 288 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 7: and then we broke up. But ever since then, I've 289 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 7: kind of been like stalking him and harassing him because 290 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 7: I'm so angry. Like I'll threaten to show about his work, 291 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 7: and like sometimes I do, I go to his house, 292 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 7: I like st'll block my number and I was like 293 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 7: make new numbers, and I feel like I'm so angry. 294 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 7: I'm just so angry. Okay, I'm like trying to get even. 295 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: Okay, Uh Well, I mean what I'll tell you about 296 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 2: this is that I mean, you already know that you 297 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 2: shouldn't be doing this, and I think, I guess you're 298 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 2: calling me for further validation of that. But I guess 299 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 2: let's talk real quick about how everything you're doing is. 300 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna actually explain, like the perspective you got to 301 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,719 Speaker 2: have on this is that you doing all these things 302 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 2: is not you getting even. It's actually the opposite. It's 303 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 2: actually getting it's actually just making life worse for you. You 304 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 2: know what I mean. 305 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, no, I completely agree. 306 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 8: It is make life worse for me. 307 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 7: But it's like it's like this obsession that I can't 308 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 7: let go of, like to the He's also like it's 309 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 7: like it's like an obsession of like with getting like 310 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 7: like I will stop talking him for a week and 311 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 7: like leave him alone, and then like this anger bubbles 312 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 7: up in me and I'm like I can't believe he 313 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 7: did all the things to me. And then I'm like 314 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 7: I have to like ruin his day, and then I 315 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 7: will like go out. 316 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 2: Yeah sure, no, no, no, yeah, you get yeah no, but 317 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 2: but but what's your name again? 318 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: Ok? 319 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 2: Kate? But Kate again? Do you do you understand why 320 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 2: you know, spending any amount of your valuable uh lifetime, 321 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 2: uh harassing this guy is stalking this guy uh like bathing, 322 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: it's I mean, it's masturbatory, it's it's it's just indulging 323 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:38,719 Speaker 2: in your anger and and that indulging making your life worse. 324 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 2: You know, it's like a drug. It's like you're like 325 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 2: you're like you're like succumbing yourself to to the adrenaline 326 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 2: of this really intense emotion. And I understand why you're 327 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 2: you know, I look I'm telling you to just stop. 328 00:18:55,320 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 2: But you know, yes, this is a a a that's 329 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 2: that's that's the I guess quote complication of it. But 330 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 2: you know, you have to find a way to exert 331 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 2: some kind of I mean some kind of mindfulness, right, 332 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 2: some ability to when your anger is popping off, the 333 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 2: ability to look at it and go, okay, I'm because 334 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:28,959 Speaker 2: you got You have your animal self that's that's rash 335 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 2: and emotional and makes poor decisions in the heat of 336 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 2: the moment because it only knows the present. And then 337 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 2: you have your higher human brain that can recognize when 338 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 2: you're having negative thoughts that are going to lead to 339 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 2: bad things for you, and you are are endowed as 340 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:58,959 Speaker 2: a human being with the ability to recognize those thoughts 341 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 2: and put leisha on them and go, I'm not going 342 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 2: to indulge in this today because I'm using my higher 343 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 2: human brain to understand that this is just going to 344 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 2: make my life worse and then I'm not going to 345 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 2: be able to move on if I keep indulging. And 346 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 2: you know, it's a hard thing. There's a lot of 347 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, gaining a mastery over your mind 348 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 2: and your emotions is a lifelong journey. And I'm not 349 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 2: there for sure, but you know, I mean that's what 350 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 2: you gotta do. 351 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 7: I know it's kind of true, like I do. I 352 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 7: honestly feel like a wild animal, like when I'm doing it, 353 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 7: like I lose all control and I'm just like obsessed 354 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 7: with the revenge. But I know it's like if I 355 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 7: had just dropped this a year ago, then I would 356 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 7: have spent the last year like living my life and 357 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 7: I wouldn't have spent every single day obsessed with it. 358 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 7: Every time I do it does it's just like it 359 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,239 Speaker 7: just feels like it feels like a true addiction. Like 360 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 7: I almost feel like I'm going through like withdrawal when 361 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 7: I'm not doing it, because I'm like three forty. Then 362 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 7: I'm like i have to go like shake up the 363 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 7: situation somehow and like cause because otherwise I'm just sitting 364 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 7: here and I feel like a like a loser like 365 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 7: I lost. 366 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 2: I was. You know, recently, I was very very mad 367 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 2: at someone and I would find myself in my and 368 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 2: it was taking over my brain. It was really taking 369 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 2: up valuable space in my brain. I was I was furious, 370 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 2: and I would find myself in my car or alone. 371 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 2: I'd find myself like yelling at them, like to me, 372 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like I would like be 373 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 2: alone screaming at this person, just like letting it all out. 374 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 2: And I'm like just just indulging in the feelings, not 375 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 2: actually screaming that, but like, you know, being just like 376 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 2: yelling in my car, like being pissed off, and it 377 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 2: just it just took away valuable space that my brain 378 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,959 Speaker 2: could have used for better thoughts and ideas and whatnot. 379 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 2: And every time time I would get those things would 380 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 2: bubble up and I get angry at it, I'd have 381 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 2: to fucking wrangle it and I'd have to be like, dude, 382 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 2: you're you're just indulging in your anger and it's extremely 383 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,719 Speaker 2: unproductive and it's it's ruining your your days and it's 384 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 2: not good. So you know, you can't control you know, 385 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 2: the events of what of what happened to you, what 386 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 2: this guy did and whatnot. But you you, you you 387 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 2: got to take you got to understand your power and 388 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 2: in letting those thoughts get to you or deciding not to, 389 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 2: and then you're gonna move on with your life. 390 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess it's just like mindfulness and like, no, 391 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 7: I mean it's just like a constant like I have 392 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 7: to constantly like stay on top of like not the 393 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 7: coming to these like really intense outbursts. 394 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 2: Or you could kill him. No, don't do that, Kate. 395 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the 396 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go? 397 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 7: Uh? 398 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 2: Who the fuck is that? 399 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 7: Sorry that my sister is listening to me. She thought 400 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 7: she was your biggest friend, and she wants to. 401 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 2: Say high, that's what Hi, file, Hey, what's up? What's 402 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 2: your what's how's life? 403 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 3: It's not ideal, but I know you have like other callers, 404 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 3: I just wanted to say, I am one of your 405 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 3: biggest bands. 406 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 2: Thank you. It's so nice. 407 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, you're you're. 408 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 3: Really doing God's work. So thank you and I love you. 409 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 3: And we're gonna come try and see one of your shows. 410 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 9: We don't know yet. I still look at Bliss because 411 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 9: I didn't even know until. 412 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 3: I didn't know you guys. I didn't know you were 413 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 3: doing another. 414 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 9: Tour until this podcast or whatever like this stream. 415 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 2: I gotta go, sweet, what's your name? 416 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 4: Uh? 417 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 2: You are are are very nice to meet you and 418 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 2: tell your sister to hang in there. 419 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah I will. 420 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 3: She does like a lot of stuff she didn't say that. 421 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say, but the guys like we have 422 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 3: a lot of stuff. He did that. 423 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 2: I'm sure, but I'm sure. But but but this is 424 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 2: this is about you know, yeah, I don't know. 425 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 3: Well our everything you said made sense? 426 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 2: Okay? 427 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 4: Good? 428 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 2: Good? Or is there anything else you want to say 429 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 2: to the people of the computer before we go? 430 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 9: Yeah, everyone out there who's depressed and struggling right now, Uh, 431 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 9: keep keep on going and maybe these things will get 432 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 9: better one day. 433 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 2: I don't know, I do this is not a good 434 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 2: thing to say, but I just I just thought about it. 435 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 2: I was really today. I was thinking like if I 436 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 2: were dead, I wouldn't have to do anything, and that 437 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 2: would be kind of nice. 438 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 9: I think about that every day. 439 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do anything. All right, 440 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 2: I'm not good. I don't think. I don't think that's good. 441 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 2: I think it's good to do stuff. I think being 442 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 2: dead and not doing anything is one of those things 443 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 2: that sounds nice, but when you get there, it's bad. 444 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 2: But I did indulge in that thought for up and 445 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 2: for two seconds. But now I'm we're good. 446 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 3: So okay, Well, if you ever want to drink the 447 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 3: kool aid with me just but. 448 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 2: You know, I'm glad to know that that that that 449 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 2: plan sees is on the table. Are thank you, Okay, you. 450 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 3: Have a beautiful, wonderful and amazing evening at you as well. 451 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 7: I eventually I'll see you at yourself beautiful. 452 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 2: Take care, guys, Thank you, Bye, what's up? Chat? Imagine 453 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 2: your therapist saying that I have to say it. I can't. 454 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 2: I just thought I can't. I'm not gonna I'm not 455 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 2: gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not 456 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 2: gonna lie. I'm not gonna get up here and I'm 457 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 2: not gonna look into the camera and go everyone who's 458 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 2: struggling out there. I know I'm not gonna do it. It's 459 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 2: not who I am. Who I am is I think 460 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 2: i'm It just would be easier to be dead. That's 461 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 2: not the invitation to kill yourself. It's not you shouldn't 462 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 2: kill yourself. But it's it's just the thought that comes 463 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 2: into my head. And it is true. It's it is 464 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 2: one hundreds factual. It is factual that it is easier 465 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 2: to be dead than alive. But just because something is 466 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 2: easier doesn't mean that's the right route. Often though, the 467 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 2: harder route is the more is usually the better one. 468 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 2: So take the hard routes and don't kill yourself, you know, 469 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 2: all right? Whatever? 470 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 1: All from damn? 471 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 2: Hello? Hey, while what's up? Dude? 472 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 4: Hey, So I wanted to talk about a worry I've 473 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 4: been having about moving out. 474 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 2: Yeah please, Okay? 475 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 4: So I so right now, I live with my mom 476 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 4: and I take very large pops, and I clogged the 477 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 4: toilet all the time. And I don't know, I can't 478 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 4: afford to move out by myself. But if I move 479 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 4: in with somebody, I don't think that would work out. 480 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 4: You know what I mean, dude? 481 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 2: I literally I had all. I had a horribly embarrassing 482 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 2: I am a cereal toilet clogger and for and for 483 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 2: and I don't I don't know how you how you 484 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 2: feel about this, But for a long time I lived 485 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 2: in a state of denial where I thought that it 486 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 2: was the toilets. 487 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 4: No, I've clogged too many. 488 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 2: I've clogged too many. I've clogged toilets in every US state. No, 489 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 2: that's not true. Everyone that I've been to I've clogged 490 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 2: a toilet in I was living. I was recently, I 491 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 2: I did a little move and and and like in 492 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,719 Speaker 2: between my my move, I was living at my parents' 493 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 2: house again for like a few weeks, and I had 494 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 2: clogged my toilet in my room, and so I went 495 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 2: downstairs to use the other toilet, the toilet in the 496 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 2: in the living room, like the main toilet, and I 497 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 2: fucking clogged that one. They're both clogged. And then like 498 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 2: I'm like hanging out of my room and my mom 499 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 2: knocks on my door and she's like, you fucking clogged 500 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 2: the She's nicer about it. She asked me if I 501 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: you know if well she was like she she told me, 502 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 2: she said, is your toilet clogged and the downstairs toilet clogged? 503 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 2: Because you only use the downstairs toilet when your toilet 504 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 2: is clogged. I'm like fuck and I'm and I'm you know, 505 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 2: I've been all over the world. I have like thousands 506 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 2: of people who listen to fucking call me for advice 507 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 2: about fucking life. And I'm in my room in my 508 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 2: underwear talking to with my mom yelling at me for 509 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 2: clogging every fucking toilet in my house. Like it was 510 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 2: just where I was like, what the fuck am I doing? 511 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? There is okay. So I was at a hospital, 512 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 4: and I saw there were blades in the toilet, and 513 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 4: I'm thinking that if that's because if it clogs, they 514 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 4: can like shread it like a blender. Yeah, so I 515 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 4: don't know if you can. 516 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 2: Buy that, that would be No. I want to keep 517 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 2: one in my back. I'm gonna use it for every toilet. 518 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 4: Dude. 519 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 2: You know what I love is and you'll you'll appreciate 520 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 2: this is I love a I love a industrial commercial toilet. Yeah, 521 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 2: you know what I'm talking You know what I'm talking 522 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 2: about right like where where Like if you like, every 523 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 2: time I go to my grandma's house, I clog the 524 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 2: toilet because if you're like a grandma or like like 525 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 2: like residential toilets like old toilets, they clog so easily. 526 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 2: But if you go to the but you I will 527 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 2: never clog the toilet at an airport because they all 528 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 2: have like the industrial like you know, really like the 529 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 2: water pressure is good. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah, Yeah, 530 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 2: I love those toilets. They're great. They make me feel 531 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 2: like a real human being. 532 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I had. I had one time I was at 533 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 4: a we were driving home and I was we stopped 534 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 4: in like the small town. There's like a chevron, and 535 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 4: it's like a super small gas station, like the like 536 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 4: the bathroom doors like behind the clerk's counter. And I 537 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 4: went in and I took a giant shit and clogged it. 538 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 4: And then when I came out, there was like a 539 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 4: line of like three or four people to go off parade. 540 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 2: You bro, you just skip out? Yeah, that wasn't me. 541 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 2: What are you gonna do? What are you gonna do? 542 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 2: You can't announce, you can't. You cannot just leave and 543 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 2: be and just be like folks, I have an announcements. No, 544 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 2: I have clogged tolet What. 545 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 4: Are you gonna do? 546 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 5: Just leave? 547 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 2: You can't take responsibility? 548 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know what. I wonder if they like 549 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 4: actually went though or they just they left. I like 550 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 4: to think that they also sucks wrong with it? 551 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 2: How old are you? 552 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 4: I'm twenty six? 553 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 2: I'm twenty six? Oh what the fuck is wrong with us? 554 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 4: I don't know. Might have been something about when we 555 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 4: were born. I'm sorry, brand and they don't seem to 556 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 4: have this problem. 557 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 2: I'm so happy. I damn, I'm so happy to be 558 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:07,959 Speaker 2: talking to you. Sam. This is great. This is therapy 559 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 2: for me. 560 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's because I don't I don't know anybody else. 561 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 4: And then people say like, oh, it's it's the toilet pap. 562 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 4: You use too much toilet paper. But like, if I 563 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 4: know it's a big ship, I will flush before I 564 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 4: wife just so I has better chances of going down 565 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 4: and it it won't go down. 566 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 2: Oh, here's the thing. And I was like, Okay, I 567 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 2: don't know what the appropriate amount of toilet paper is 568 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 2: because I like a big clump, right, because apparently you're 569 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 2: only supposed to use like two squares. But what but 570 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 2: if I use two squares of toilet paper, I just 571 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 2: get a bunch of shit on my hands. That's not 572 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 2: enough to cover my fingers, and now I have shit fingers. 573 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 2: And then I here's the bathroom, I wash my hand, 574 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 2: and I'm just walking around with like shit on my fingers. 575 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 2: So I don't know. I guess everybody else is just 576 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 2: is just digging their fucking hands and their asses because 577 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 2: they don't want to, because they want to seem like 578 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 2: they're better than us, because they don't clog the toilets. 579 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know what. It's not a 580 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 4: very proper thing. Just wipe your ass however you want 581 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 4: to do it. 582 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 2: So are you going to put it out? 583 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 4: I don't know. Well, that's what I'm actually worried. So 584 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 4: I'm I was actually because I don't know what to do, 585 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 4: Like this isn't even a joke. I was actually thinking 586 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 4: like maybe I could get used to just like putting 587 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 4: a glove on and like mashing it up, but I 588 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 4: don't want to do that like as a regular thing. 589 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 590 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I have I have a video and it's 591 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 4: I'm not kidding. I have a shit that's like two 592 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 4: feet long. It goes from like the the it's out 593 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 4: of the water up to like the lip of the 594 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 4: toilet bowl, and then it's back down, disappearing through the 595 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 4: bottom of the toilet. So I don't even know how 596 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 4: long it actually was. And I wush it and it 597 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 4: doesn't even budge. 598 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 2: Oh, so your problem is not the toilet paper, man, 599 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 2: Your problem is you actually are taking toilet cloth. 600 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 4: No, it just looks like an animal, Like if I 601 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 4: thought I wouldn't nobody would think it was a human. 602 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 2: That's crazy, man. Have you been to a doctor about this? 603 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 4: No, I do have a story about I thought I 604 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 4: had a tape form once and I showed the doctor 605 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 4: and he's like that's a bean sprout. So I was 606 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 4: just at the doctor for no reason, showing him a 607 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 4: bean sprout that came out of my ass. 608 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 2: That's cool. I like that story. So I I, you 609 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 2: were talking to me and you said you clean to 610 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 2: What happened within this call is you were talking to 611 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 2: me about something, and then I used it as an 612 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,399 Speaker 2: opportunity to talk about my own toilet clogging problems because 613 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 2: I was excited to find tape to somebody about clogging 614 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 2: a toilet. And I've lost track. You're trying to move out, 615 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 2: but you're afraid to move out because you're preaking to 616 00:34:58,520 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 2: clog the toilet. What's going on? 617 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 4: Yeah? I don't know. I just don't know what the 618 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 4: salute because there's no way other people would be cool 619 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 4: with that. 620 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, getting room once you live alone? Can 621 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 2: you can? You can? 622 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 5: You? 623 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 4: I live in California and I'm not I don't. 624 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 2: Make that yeah yeah no, yeah yeah. 625 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 4: So like I would need I would need to just 626 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 4: rent a room, and it's kind of like I can't 627 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 4: really kind of it's not urgent, but I have to 628 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 4: kind of move out soon. 629 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 10: So I got an idea, why don't you find a 630 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 10: way to, can you Why don't you start like an 631 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 10: OnlyFans or something like find a way to monetize. 632 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 4: That actually would that would probably work. 633 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 2: No, it wouldn't. It wouldn't work at all. 634 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 4: I don't think that would work either. 635 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 2: So then do it. Please please be my be my guy. 636 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 2: But please, if you can do that, I'm quitting this 637 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 2: fucking podcast. I'm gonna go do that. That sounds great. 638 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 4: We can start a fan site. 639 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that idea. But that's that's that's I'm sorry, 640 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 2: that's that's the extent of I think. How how I 641 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 2: would solve this problem? What what I usually do? What 642 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 2: I would do is I would just get my roommates 643 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 2: a e my mom get mad at me, and I, uh, 644 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 2: you know, deal with the I just I just let 645 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 2: the shame hit me like a fucking stack of bricks 646 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 2: and then you know it won't kill you. You just 647 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,800 Speaker 2: gotta take it. You just gotta take. 648 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,240 Speaker 4: I feel like they would they'd probably make me leave. 649 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,479 Speaker 2: How they gonna all right, good luck in the fucking rent. 650 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 4: Well, they could just find another normal shitting person. 651 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 2: How are they gonna do that? You have there on 652 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 2: your on the lease, aren't you put put it put 653 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 2: it in the lease that you make sure make sure 654 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 2: that it's in the least that you're allowed to clog 655 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 2: the toilet as much as you want. Sneak out in ever, 656 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 2: no one's looking. Okay, what's your name again? 657 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 4: Sam? 658 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 2: Sam? Sam? This was great? Thanks for thanks. I this 659 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 2: truly was very therapeutic for me. You've been the therapy 660 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 2: I going to meet on that. I appreciate that. 661 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, of course it was good to meet somebody else 662 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 4: with the same problem. 663 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the 664 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go. 665 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 4: I don't know why not to clog the toilet, I guess, 666 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,800 Speaker 4: or I guess they could. Uh well, I don't know 667 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 4: how they'd let me out they find a solution, I 668 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 4: don't know. Keep watching GEK. Thank you, good advice. 669 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 2: Take care all right, take care bye. We did it 670 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 2: eleven minutes on clogging toilets whatever. I don't Okay, that's 671 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 2: the truth, that whole story of clogging every toilet in 672 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 2: my fucking parents house. That's my life. That's real. It's 673 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 2: not cool. Call from Luke Hello, Hello, Uh, what's up? Luke? 674 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 2: Has it gone? 675 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:15,760 Speaker 5: Not much? Man, I'm just chilling. I got off from 676 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 5: break from college and sorry, I'm a little nervous right now. 677 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 5: I didn't actually think it would go through it is. Yeah, 678 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,359 Speaker 5: I'm just calling about I've had a little bit of 679 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 5: like struggles these past few years in terms of, like 680 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 5: I don't know, just kind of like realizing what I 681 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 5: want to be, what I want to do in things 682 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 5: that I don't want to be. And I don't know. 683 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 5: That's kind of what I wanted to call about. 684 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 2: Well, do you have anything in regards to that that 685 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 2: you want to elaborate on. 686 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 5: I would just say, like, I don't know. I when 687 00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 5: I was younger, I struggled a lot with like obsessiveness 688 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 5: and gaining obsessed with like different things. And like about 689 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 5: two years ago, I went on a mission strip a 690 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 5: religious trip kind of like being a missionary and such. 691 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,240 Speaker 5: And during that time, I was struggling with my faith 692 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 5: and everything, and I was just reflecting a lot on 693 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 5: my past family. My dad was a big yeller and 694 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 5: some he was kind of abusive in some ways the 695 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 5: way he yelled at people, and I don't know, I 696 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 5: just kind of like, uh, I don't want to be 697 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 5: like that. And at one point during the trip, I 698 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 5: got so anxious to the point that I like just 699 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 5: just was kind of like questioning who I was. Kind 700 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 5: of like I just became so like perfectionistic. And I 701 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 5: remember watching like this thing called this documentary, you know, 702 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 5: like like serial killers like John Layne Gacy and all that. 703 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 2: I am familiar with the idea of see real murder. 704 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 5: Sure, yeah, I during this whole trip, I was like 705 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 5: trying to be perfect and everything and all that, and 706 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 5: I was like questioning everything, and I don't know, I 707 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 5: like watch the documentary on Netflix about that, and like 708 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 5: it was weird. 709 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 2: Are you about to say that you were questioning what 710 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 2: to do with your life and you saw a bunch 711 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 2: of guys kill and eat people and you were like, no, 712 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 2: maybe I should kill and eat people would be a 713 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 2: good life path. It worked out for those guys. I 714 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 2: was talking with someone the other day about how I'm 715 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 2: you know, I just from the perspective of a murderer. 716 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 2: I bet. I bet if it's like your favorite thing 717 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 2: to do, I bet if you really like it, if 718 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:52,439 Speaker 2: you were like John what's his name, Jeffrey Dahmer, John 719 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 2: Wayn Gacy, Jeffrey Dahmer, I bet if that's your thing, 720 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 2: then like doing it, killing and eating a person. It 721 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 2: probably it probably is awesome if it's your favorite thing, 722 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. 723 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, it kind of sounds like it. I guess, like, uh, 724 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 5: I don't know. I was just thinking about it. And 725 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,760 Speaker 5: when I was watching it, like typically over my trip, 726 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 5: I was trying to like I was obsessed with this 727 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 5: thing called do you know MBTI is like personality types. 728 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 2: And all that, Oh yeah, sure, sure yeah, And I. 729 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,319 Speaker 5: Was like obsessed with this idea of being this like 730 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 5: really good person. I remember like on the test, I 731 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 5: like I like took it and I didn't really have 732 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,320 Speaker 5: them in too many close friends in high school, but 733 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 5: I remember like, oh, I got the guy who was 734 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,839 Speaker 5: the protagonist, the guy who always wants does the great thing. 735 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,760 Speaker 5: But I got on my trip and I wasn't really 736 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 5: that I had a lot of problems with like the 737 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 5: instructors and X, Y and Z, and I was like 738 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 5: so obsessively like bringing down myself if I messed up. 739 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 5: And I guess I watched it and I saw like 740 00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 5: John Wayne Gacy struggle with like his sexuality as a kid. 741 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 6: Mm hmm. 742 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 5: And I don't know, I just like some of the things, 743 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 5: like I remember it said that he would like put 744 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 5: on like women's gorments. Is like whenever he was nine 745 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 5: and I whenever I struggle with my sexuality, I like 746 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 5: did that, and it just like was so weird because 747 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 5: he was like a very outgoing, like he took control 748 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 5: of things, and I thought of myself in that kind 749 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:26,319 Speaker 5: of way. 750 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 751 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 5: But whenever I saw him do that, he let himself 752 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 5: into a life that was like he became obsessed with 753 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 5: power and then having power over other people, and that 754 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 5: got to a point like sexually where he wanted to 755 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 5: like kill people, kill young men. I've never felt that 756 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 5: way ever, That's what I think. 757 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 2: So you're telling me you were like, uh, okay, John 758 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,280 Speaker 2: Wayne Gay Sam with you on the wearing women's clothing. 759 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 2: I'm with you on being confused and my sexuality, but 760 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 2: the killing and eating people, I'm not on board with. 761 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 2: That's the part where you see, Yeah, that's where it was. 762 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I hope so. But during the trip I was 763 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 5: just like so freaked out. And it's not really something 764 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 5: I think that much about anymore, but because I like 765 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,239 Speaker 5: had to like really repress it and stop thinking about it, 766 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 5: I remember, like later on the trip out like pray 767 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 5: out to Jesus. And I know not that many people 768 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 5: on the podcast probably like vibe. 769 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,399 Speaker 2: Or I don't know, I can vibe, but no fire, 770 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,400 Speaker 2: fuck fuck those people. Let's vibe with Jesus. 771 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. I just kind of like it 772 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 5: was something where I had to like pray out that, 773 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 5: like because I would get like thoughts that would in 774 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 5: truth because I had never thought about this kind of 775 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,439 Speaker 5: thing ever in my entire life. 776 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 2: But what are you talking? Hold on? Hold on? I'm lost? 777 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 2: Are you? Are you just talking about being gay? Or 778 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 2: are you talking about killing people? 779 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:51,360 Speaker 5: Uh? 780 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 4: Not? 781 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,360 Speaker 5: Kind of just like thoughts of me becoming a person 782 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 5: who was like that, not even. 783 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 2: That hold on, that is not an answer to my 784 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,240 Speaker 2: question at all. 785 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 5: Oh just okay, So like not the not really the 786 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,359 Speaker 5: kind of the gate thing, but also like also just 787 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,959 Speaker 5: like whenever I watched it, I saw someone. 788 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 2: Hold on, are you talking about being gay or killing people? 789 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 5: I mean I would I would say, like killing people, 790 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,720 Speaker 5: but it's not something that I've necessarily like personally thought about, 791 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 5: but it's something I've feared that possibly I would become 792 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 5: something like that. 793 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, sure, sure, how old are you? 794 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 5: I'm twenty? 795 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,880 Speaker 2: Okay, have you ever had the urge to kill. 796 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 5: No, I don't think I have. Like I've played a 797 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 5: lot of sports where I've like played football and like 798 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 5: that was fun and whatever, but no, I haven't. I 799 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,400 Speaker 5: would definitely say. 800 00:44:51,280 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 2: Not, Okay, Luke, you seem like a nice guy. I'm 801 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 2: so sorry. I've been talking about killing so much. I 802 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 2: feel like I've lost track of where exactly we are 803 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,319 Speaker 2: with this issue. 804 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,839 Speaker 5: I would just say, it's like, I don't know, it's 805 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 5: just something to talk about. And whenever I like is 806 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 5: it's something that I've talked about before to other people, 807 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 5: and it's always something that's like I have to always clarify. No, 808 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 5: I don't actually think like that, but my own it's 809 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 5: hard to even talk about. Like you were trying to 810 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 5: stop me and saying, like, oh, being gay or killing people. 811 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,440 Speaker 5: But it wasn't really like whenever I think back, it 812 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 5: was more just like I related to those things and 813 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 5: I was already so obsessed with being something and I 814 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,800 Speaker 5: would look at other people and I would want to 815 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 5: become something that I necessarily wasn't. But once I saw 816 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,399 Speaker 5: those traits and someone else that I want to. 817 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 2: You know what I think, Luke, I think I just 818 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 2: think you. I just think, listen the universe of men 819 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 2: where women's clothing. Uh, there's a whole universe of it. 820 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:08,279 Speaker 2: There's there's there's like RuPaul's drag race and whatnot. I 821 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 2: guess what I'm trying to say to you is that 822 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 2: if you need a a role model of some kind 823 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,239 Speaker 2: or somebody to look at to, you know, compare your 824 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,399 Speaker 2: own life to just to make some sense of it, 825 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 2: you can probably find somebody better than John Wayne Gacy. 826 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 827 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 5: Probably he was a. 828 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 4: He was a psychopath. 829 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 5: He was an evil man. 830 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 2: So you know, I'm sure that there are people who 831 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 2: have had similar life experiences as you that have not 832 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,879 Speaker 2: gone on to kill people. So don't I would, don't. 833 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 2: Don't freak out. 834 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,279 Speaker 5: I appreciate that. I appreciate that a lot is even 835 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 5: talking about it. It's like I've talked about it before, 836 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 5: and anytime someone hears that, I was like, I'm always 837 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,239 Speaker 5: afraid of talking about it because like as soon as 838 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 5: I say that, they think, oh, this guy has taught 839 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:57,720 Speaker 5: about doing this to people. 840 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 2: Just get some one new get Just find a different 841 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,640 Speaker 2: person than John Wayne Gacy. He's I don't think. I 842 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 2: don't think that the drag community are like, are are 843 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 2: John Wayne Gacy? I don't think that they claim him? 844 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, that makes that would make a lot of sense, 845 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 5: since you know he he killed a Nate Boys. 846 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,800 Speaker 2: He did kill an Eat Boys, which tends to people 847 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 2: frowned upon that. What's your name again, I'm Luke Luke. Well, Luke, 848 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 2: did do you feel like this was a productive conversation? 849 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 5: Yeah? I would say it definitely was. It puts things 850 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,880 Speaker 5: into more perspectives, puts things into just thinking about like, 851 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,279 Speaker 5: you know, I think I've been so obsessed on her 852 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 5: the idea of not being something, but I think what 853 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 5: you're like, what you're saying makes sense logically where it's like, 854 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 5: don't even think about that, just think about like that's 855 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 5: not even those two things aren't related. I guess since 856 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 5: that was like the first experience where I like, I don't. 857 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,399 Speaker 2: Know, as you're you're you're you're afraid that you're going 858 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,880 Speaker 2: to start getting urges to do John Wayne Gacy ship. 859 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why I was like afraid that at some 860 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,680 Speaker 5: point that would come upon me. Okay, like as a 861 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,400 Speaker 5: kid that it was pretty taboo. Like of course I 862 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,399 Speaker 5: live in a pretty religious so so like already being 863 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 5: interested in like I don't know. The ship I was 864 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:32,360 Speaker 5: interested in was pretty taboo, so I was just hoping 865 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,600 Speaker 5: with God that one point that would never happen. 866 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 2: And yeah, I think I'm gonna end. I'm gonna say 867 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 2: this to you, Luke. I don't think that all people 868 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 2: who question their sexuality and wear women's clothing turn out 869 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:10,520 Speaker 2: to be serial murderers. Yeah, Luke, is there anything else 870 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:11,960 Speaker 2: that you want to say to the people of the 871 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 2: computer before we go? 872 00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 5: Just thank you? 873 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,960 Speaker 2: And that one guy did, but that was that was 874 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,040 Speaker 2: just one guy. That was just one guy. And there's 875 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,440 Speaker 2: also Buffalo Bill. But it doesn't matter. What were you 876 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,319 Speaker 2: going to say? People, there's a couple of people, there's 877 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 2: a couple. You're okay, you're right, there's a couple of them. 878 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,960 Speaker 2: But it's like not it's not even a percentage. It's 879 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 2: like less than one percent. So don't worry about it. 880 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:35,399 Speaker 2: What were you going to say? 881 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 5: I don't know, Just be happy do whatever. I'm trying 882 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,800 Speaker 5: to do my thing, and I hope everyone does does well. 883 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 5: I'm trying to be a scientist one day, so mm hmm. 884 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 5: I was just poll a little connections from like different 885 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 5: things and always I don't know, but I appreciate it 886 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:57,800 Speaker 5: a lot loud, of course. 887 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 2: Take care man, good good luck, good luck, trying not 888 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:09,040 Speaker 2: to develop a lust for blood. Take care of luc 889 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:09,959 Speaker 2: Bye bye. 890 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,319 Speaker 4: Okay. 891 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,000 Speaker 2: Someone in the chat just said, does Lyle think Buffalo 892 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 2: Bill is real? Fuck? Is he not real? He's he's 893 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 2: based off a real person. Whatever I'm I'm gonna, I'm 894 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 2: gonna manifest him as real. Wait, no, that's bad, Okay, 895 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:39,879 Speaker 2: I won't. I will not manifest Buffalo Bill howl from Hello, Hello, Hi? 896 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:40,400 Speaker 2: Who is this? 897 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:41,480 Speaker 8: Oh my god? 898 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 6: This is Rebo. 899 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:44,200 Speaker 2: What's up, Reba? How's life? 900 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 8: Oh my god? You know I'm chilling right now. How 901 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:47,799 Speaker 8: are you? 902 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,920 Speaker 2: I'm doing actually pretty okay? 903 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:51,160 Speaker 10: Man? 904 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 2: Is there anything in particular that you wanted to call 905 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,760 Speaker 2: in to talk about today? 906 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,799 Speaker 8: I wanted to tell you that A big fans for 907 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,440 Speaker 8: a while, and I'm coming to your Albany show. 908 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,160 Speaker 2: Thank you. Oh my Albany show. I didn't even realize 909 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,240 Speaker 2: tickets for that were on sale. Yeah that's cool. Nice. 910 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,320 Speaker 8: Yeah, Like, I know you're announcing the show on Friday. 911 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 8: But my friend said to me as like, oh my god, 912 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:16,719 Speaker 8: like no way, and then I was like, nope, I'm 913 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,360 Speaker 8: buying tickets like right now. 914 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 2: Really awesome. Yeah, I've never been to upstate New York before, 915 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,920 Speaker 2: so I'm I'm I'll be there. What the fuck? I 916 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,879 Speaker 2: don't know. I hope the show will be better than 917 00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,959 Speaker 2: what I just said to you. Well, thanks for coming. 918 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,000 Speaker 2: I'm excited to see you in person. But I guess 919 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 2: before that, you know, we could talk about about about 920 00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:44,760 Speaker 2: about anything, man, about anything. What's what's on your brain today? 921 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 8: Well, I have been contemplating moving out of the country, 922 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 8: so that's exciting kind of. I'm also scared to think 923 00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,319 Speaker 8: about it because I've lived in let's say New York 924 00:51:58,400 --> 00:51:59,400 Speaker 8: for all of my life. 925 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 2: Where out of the country are you going to move? 926 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:13,520 Speaker 8: I was thinking about Poland. Where in Poland, probably like 927 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:18,200 Speaker 8: northeastern Poland. There's like a small town where my grandma lives, 928 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 8: and it's like kind of like a summer town, like 929 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:25,480 Speaker 8: a scenic town, so it's like nice, and all my 930 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,360 Speaker 8: family lives over there. I lost my parents in twenty 931 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,080 Speaker 8: twenty one, and I'm an only child and like no 932 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:36,520 Speaker 8: cousins around, so it's like kinda tough. So I'm like 933 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 8: thinking about starting again, but I'm not sure it's like 934 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,320 Speaker 8: I should, especially because I'm not like flut And Polish 935 00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,719 Speaker 8: and you know, I've lived I'm like twenty five, so 936 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,480 Speaker 8: I've lived here for you know, all my life. So 937 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 8: I don't know, I wanted to get some like advice. 938 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,200 Speaker 2: So you're gonna go to to Poland just by yourself? 939 00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know. And then my friends said that they 940 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,080 Speaker 8: would come visit at me and they're playing and have 941 00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 8: kids and you know, they can get their dual citizenship 942 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,799 Speaker 8: or whatever, and it can be the fun pull the 943 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,000 Speaker 8: shot that takes them everywhere. 944 00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 5: You know, it could be fun. 945 00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,799 Speaker 2: You know, I'm I really I'm being I'm serious. This 946 00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,680 Speaker 2: is like, you know, for right now, like and I'm 947 00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,280 Speaker 2: I'm making this about me, but only because I'm relating 948 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:23,520 Speaker 2: it back, is uh right, well for right now, for 949 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:27,359 Speaker 2: right now, I'm like, you know, if I'm doing I'm 950 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:31,080 Speaker 2: doing this gecko thing whatever, I'm like, I'm I want 951 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,759 Speaker 2: to live in America. I want to live uh in 952 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:37,840 Speaker 2: New York and and do my thing and and whatever whatever. 953 00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,520 Speaker 2: But if I weren't doing this, a part of me 954 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:42,799 Speaker 2: does think, like, oh it would be I would just 955 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:47,319 Speaker 2: fucking move to like you know, anywhere else. Maybe not move, 956 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,200 Speaker 2: but like maybe go nomadic for a little bit. I 957 00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,880 Speaker 2: don't know. I I The point is, I fantasize all 958 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,800 Speaker 2: the time about moving to you know, Thailand or Japan 959 00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,439 Speaker 2: or any Anya and. 960 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,960 Speaker 8: See everywhere and see the world. You know. It's just, uh, 961 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,640 Speaker 8: there's a lot of opportunities out there, but like it's 962 00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,440 Speaker 8: scary leaving everything. 963 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 6: That you know. 964 00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,280 Speaker 2: You know, do you have any money? 965 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:13,560 Speaker 7: Yeah? 966 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,879 Speaker 8: I have some money, yeah, And I have some things 967 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,840 Speaker 8: I could sell, so like I would be like, okay, 968 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 8: like I think I could say I could be financially 969 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,080 Speaker 8: stable if I were to like liquidate a few things, 970 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:25,520 Speaker 8: you know, and then move. 971 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,759 Speaker 2: Now why why, I guess, I guess, like why move 972 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,480 Speaker 2: to Poland? Like what do you want to do? Why 973 00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,080 Speaker 2: don't you just go nomadic mode for a little bit? 974 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:34,719 Speaker 2: That could be fun. 975 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,560 Speaker 8: I know, Like I was thinking about like moving to 976 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:43,160 Speaker 8: Poland on like a TBD basis and then like visiting 977 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,359 Speaker 8: like other places and like you know, like just seeing 978 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:47,839 Speaker 8: where life takes me from there. 979 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You know the problem with that is 980 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,520 Speaker 2: that it is true, right, like you're you're gonna get lonely, 981 00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 2: like you do need to have a community and other 982 00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:03,680 Speaker 2: people around. But if you're smart, I truly believe there's 983 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:09,080 Speaker 2: ways to to actually even weirdly enough, meet a whole 984 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,319 Speaker 2: lot more new people than you would have if you 985 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:18,680 Speaker 2: had stayed in Albany, right right, yeah, And you know, 986 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,239 Speaker 2: look you could also go do it for a year 987 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,840 Speaker 2: and then fall else fails, you. 988 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,600 Speaker 5: Can just go back home, right, I know. 989 00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,239 Speaker 8: But like you know, there's like I have a great 990 00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:32,360 Speaker 8: uncle and like two second cousins here, so it's not 991 00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:36,080 Speaker 8: really like there isn't too much to go back for 992 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,719 Speaker 8: except for like my friends, but they're also looking to 993 00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,239 Speaker 8: like move away, So like, I'm not sure if there's 994 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,919 Speaker 8: really any like motivations for me to like stay here 995 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,279 Speaker 8: long term. Besides, like if I were to go and 996 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:48,759 Speaker 8: then come back, like I don't know what i'd be 997 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,600 Speaker 8: coming back to if that makes sense. 998 00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, well then fuck it. I mean, go go 999 00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:58,480 Speaker 2: meet a what are what are? Go get a Polish husband? 1000 00:55:58,640 --> 00:55:59,279 Speaker 2: That could be fun. 1001 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:06,360 Speaker 8: Uh you know maybe maybe who knows. 1002 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,600 Speaker 2: Why Poland feels und Actually I've heard cool things about Poland. 1003 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:11,440 Speaker 2: I've heard cool things about Poland. 1004 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:16,239 Speaker 8: Beautiful. It's beautiful. There's a lot of different like like 1005 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,600 Speaker 8: it's really old there. There's a lot of like old history. 1006 00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,240 Speaker 8: And I went to Iceland this year too. 1007 00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:22,120 Speaker 6: If you ever have the chance. 1008 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,400 Speaker 5: I don't know if you've been. It's super super cool. 1009 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,959 Speaker 6: There's a lot of volcanic activity going on around there, 1010 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:28,080 Speaker 6: but it's super dope. 1011 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,920 Speaker 2: Nice. Nice. You know, I've heard good things about Poland. 1012 00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, maybe you can stop on your tour for twenty. 1013 00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 2: Twenty four, you know, yeah, yeah, I know. Warsaw's cool, 1014 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,680 Speaker 2: crackouts cool. What about I don't know. I mean, do 1015 00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,640 Speaker 2: you have any Yeah? Okay, so all the way, Okay, 1016 00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,759 Speaker 2: So so your parents passed away. I'm very sorry to 1017 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:53,400 Speaker 2: hear that. So you don't have any family in Albany. 1018 00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,759 Speaker 2: It sounds to me as though your friends are all 1019 00:56:56,040 --> 00:57:00,600 Speaker 2: like moving out and so there's just no one even 1020 00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,959 Speaker 2: in You're like in super no man's land right now. 1021 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, because you know, everyone's starting their life. We're in 1022 00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,200 Speaker 8: our like twenties, you know what I mean. So like 1023 00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:12,279 Speaker 8: everybody's doing their own thing, and I'm looking to do 1024 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,120 Speaker 8: my own thing. But I'm not sure if this is 1025 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:15,759 Speaker 8: like step in the right direction, or if I'm going 1026 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,560 Speaker 8: to fuck myself financially by moving somewhere far away and 1027 00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:21,760 Speaker 8: then not having a way back or a fallback plan. 1028 00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:23,720 Speaker 2: Well, what the hell? What else would you do with 1029 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:25,400 Speaker 2: your life. That's the thing is, at a certain point 1030 00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,800 Speaker 2: you're like I have, at a certain point you have 1031 00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:32,200 Speaker 2: you don't even like have a better thing to do 1032 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:38,920 Speaker 2: than to do the quote risky thing, right Yeah, I 1033 00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,520 Speaker 2: mean like like talk me through that, Like do you 1034 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:42,400 Speaker 2: what else would you do? 1035 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:45,640 Speaker 5: Well? 1036 00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,040 Speaker 8: Right now, I work as like a legal assistant, and 1037 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:52,080 Speaker 8: I got like a college degree in communication studies and stuff, 1038 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,400 Speaker 8: so like that's very broad and I could do a 1039 00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:56,440 Speaker 8: lot of different things. Like I wanted to be like 1040 00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:00,720 Speaker 8: a graphic designer, like a layout person, but that's not 1041 00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:02,760 Speaker 8: where life took me for right now. 1042 00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:03,240 Speaker 1: So I'm like. 1043 00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,480 Speaker 8: Trying to re route and figure it out. But you know, 1044 00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,560 Speaker 8: I'm just uh, I'm just not sure, you know. 1045 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:11,640 Speaker 5: So. 1046 00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:13,320 Speaker 8: But I am quick on my feet, and I think. 1047 00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:14,880 Speaker 6: I could do a lot of different things. It's just 1048 00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:15,760 Speaker 6: a matter of like. 1049 00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:16,680 Speaker 5: What would make me happy. 1050 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:18,760 Speaker 6: And I feel like a lot of people struggle with 1051 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:19,680 Speaker 6: what would make. 1052 00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,240 Speaker 8: Them happy, especially translating it to like a professional nine 1053 00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,680 Speaker 8: to five, you know, because nobody wants to work ninety nine. 1054 00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 1: Nobody wants to go to Poland. 1055 00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:31,600 Speaker 2: I like that, Go to Poland, go crazy, go to Poland, 1056 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,360 Speaker 2: Go to Poland. That's what I would do. Why not? 1057 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I get I mean what you 1058 00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:43,720 Speaker 2: either go to Poland or you stay in Albany. 1059 00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know, I like work my way up 1060 00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:50,880 Speaker 6: for whatever, and you know, make money and maybe find somebody, 1061 00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,720 Speaker 6: but maybe not, you know, like maybe I could just 1062 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,800 Speaker 6: stay here and just fucking disintegrate. I have no idea. 1063 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if I I always think that taking 1064 00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,320 Speaker 2: a little taking a teeny bit of risk is good. 1065 00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,680 Speaker 2: I mean, you're not you you sound like I mean, 1066 00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,160 Speaker 2: if you have like a little bit of money, if 1067 00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:10,000 Speaker 2: you're not gonna like go there, and you know, if 1068 00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,200 Speaker 2: you get that, you like, don't like if you if 1069 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,760 Speaker 2: you have like two hundred dollars, don't go to Poland. 1070 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:18,080 Speaker 8: But uh no, no, yeah no, it's a it's a 1071 00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,000 Speaker 8: bit more than that. But yes, I do understand so 1072 00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:22,520 Speaker 8: logic behind that, because. 1073 00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,360 Speaker 2: Okay, if no, if you have if you have the 1074 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,439 Speaker 2: money to like and be like, all right, I'm gonna 1075 00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:28,960 Speaker 2: be fine. If I, you know, take a little risk, 1076 00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:30,720 Speaker 2: I think I I would go for it. 1077 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:36,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, all right, Well, thank you for the advice, Geck, 1078 00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:37,560 Speaker 6: I really appreciate it. 1079 00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,440 Speaker 2: Hey, you know where you could go? You could go 1080 00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:48,640 Speaker 2: to uh uh, you could go to Tasmania in Australia. 1081 00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,160 Speaker 2: That's the incest capital of Australia. Did you know that. 1082 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:52,439 Speaker 2: I learned that while I was there. 1083 00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,440 Speaker 6: Wow. No, I had no idea. 1084 00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,000 Speaker 8: Huh that's a cool one. 1085 00:59:59,680 --> 00:59:59,919 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1086 01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,040 Speaker 2: It was really random thing to say, but I was like, 1087 01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:03,800 Speaker 2: I gotta say a random thing at the end of 1088 01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,960 Speaker 2: this call. I'm trying to do that more. Is there 1089 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:08,160 Speaker 2: anything else you want to say to the people of 1090 01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:09,080 Speaker 2: the computer before we go? 1091 01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:11,960 Speaker 8: I had a question for you? 1092 01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:13,920 Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, please? 1093 01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,040 Speaker 8: Uh where do you get your smooth jazz from? 1094 01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:18,200 Speaker 4: Oh? 1095 01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,720 Speaker 2: Uh yes, YouTube? 1096 01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:22,600 Speaker 5: Just YouTube? 1097 01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:23,880 Speaker 2: Okay, just YouTube? All right? 1098 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:24,480 Speaker 8: I like it. 1099 01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:25,200 Speaker 5: I like it. 1100 01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:26,520 Speaker 6: Thank you. 1101 01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,640 Speaker 2: I will see you. Don't move to Poland before March. 1102 01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,560 Speaker 8: No, no, it's yeah, it's in April, so I'll definitely 1103 01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:34,960 Speaker 8: be here. 1104 01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:38,160 Speaker 2: Yep, okay, oh yes it is in April. Great, great, awesome, 1105 01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:39,520 Speaker 2: I'll see you in Albany. 1106 01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,439 Speaker 8: All right, take care, GEK, thanks for taking my call. 1107 01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:43,600 Speaker 2: Thank you. 1108 01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:44,640 Speaker 4: Bye. 1109 01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:51,200 Speaker 2: G l A chef Reebacon goes on the line, thanking 1110 01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:52,360 Speaker 2: your phone calls. 1111 01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,320 Speaker 10: Every nine never becon goes to 1112 01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,480 Speaker 1: Lis