1 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: Hell Loo and welcome to Savor production of iHeart Radio. 2 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: I'm any reason an unlarn vocal bomb, and today we 3 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: have an episode for you about papaya. 4 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: Yes, was there any reason this was on your mind? Lauren? 5 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: Nope, not at all. I maybe it might have been 6 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: in our idea sheet. Maybe I was just recklessly googling fruit. 7 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 2: I don't know, never recklessly google fruit, Lauren. 8 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: There's one thing I've learned all this job. 9 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, No, But I but I, but I love 10 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 2: a papaya. I think I prefer it unripe to ripe. 11 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: But but there is really something about like good, like 12 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 2: just like chilled papaya cubes with like a lot of 13 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: lime juice. Oh so nice, so refreshing. 14 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: Okay, I don't have a lot of experience with papaya, 15 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: to be honest. I had papaya juice a lot in Peru. 16 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: It was a smell that always threw me. 17 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,559 Speaker 2: That's a common that's a common vibe. Yeah. 18 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: It was never like I couldn't drink it or anything 19 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: like that, but it was just like didn't match quite 20 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: with the what I thought the taste would be. Yeah, 21 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: in a way that reminds me of a much Tamer Durian. 22 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think that that is very much a situation 23 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: with ripe papaya. It doesn't really happen with the unripe 24 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: kind and I but but I've definitely like people have 25 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: a strong enough association between papaya and that kind of 26 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 2: off smell that I've you know, like if I if 27 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 2: I order papaya salad green papaya salad, which I do 28 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 2: pretty much every time I can, people are like, oh, 29 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: I don't even want to try it because I don't 30 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: want to get my face anywhere near papaya. 31 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: Hmm. 32 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: But the green, but the green stuff does not have 33 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: that smell, So you're y'all are safe if that was 34 00:01:58,440 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: a concern. 35 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: Few, I mean, I definitely eat it. I did think 36 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: that was just my first experience with something like that. 37 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: So this, Oh I almost message you about this, so 38 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: it wasn't another marigold situation. But okay, there seems to 39 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: be a lot of confusion between pop pause impapaia pa pa. 40 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: I determined, you know, laterally without asking you. But I 41 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: think this is what you meant. That's a separate episode, 42 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: that's a different fruit. Yeah, it's a some people put 43 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: it in the same kind of like story history line, 44 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: I'm not doing it. 45 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a different it's a different fruit. 46 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: So there you go. There, there you go, putting the 47 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: foot down. But a lot of people, well at least 48 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: a handful of people have suggested Papa's, so we will 49 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: do it. Oh it's on the list. 50 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, mm hmm. 51 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: You can see that episode we did on green papaya salad, 52 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: which yes, I have now had based heavily on your suggestions. 53 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. I also Oh yeah, isn't it? Oh man, so good? 54 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,399 Speaker 2: Did you have like a like a like a good 55 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: spicy one like was it? Yeah, that's a crunch of 56 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 2: it and the tang spice. 57 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 1: I also get it every time I see it. Oh yeah, yes, yes, 58 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: But I guess that brings us to our question. Sure, papaya, 59 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: what is it? Well, papaya is a type of fruit 60 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: that's eaten both unripe when the flesh is green and 61 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: tart and crunchy, and uh ripe when it's kind of 62 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: blush orange and soft and very sweet and a little funky. 63 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: They can get big, like football sized, so in grocery 64 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: stores they're often sold haved or skinned and sliced like melons. 65 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: Both their smooth skin and small black seeds are technically edible, 66 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: but they're also both a little bitter and like tough. 67 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: So yeah. The fruit can be used unripe and bright 68 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: salads and savory stews like curries, or ripe by itself 69 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: as a snack or dessert, often with lime juice to 70 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: help mitigate that funky smell, or or raw and smoothies 71 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: or salads or cooked into baked goods or pastes or 72 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 2: candies or jams. More than any other fruit that I 73 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 2: know of, it's really two totally different things when it's 74 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: ripe versus unripe. It retains a few tropical floral tangy 75 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: flavors in both states, but like the texture and the smell, 76 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: right are so different. It's like if it's like if 77 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: celery turned into cantelope when it ripened. It's it's like 78 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 2: a it's like a squash that grows on trees. It's 79 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 2: like a choose your own adventure that definitely takes place 80 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 2: in the tropics and just leaves you feeling refreshed. 81 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: It that is true, it's kind of very like refreshing. 82 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: It's very a lot of water involved, I guess, yeah, yeah, 83 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 2: very juicy when yeah, yeah, hmm, okay, but uh yeah so. 84 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 2: Botanical name Karica papaya, the papaya plant is a tropical 85 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: evergreen tree. It can grow up to about six twenty 86 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: feet tall that's around two to six meters, and has 87 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 2: these these broad, kind of palm like lobed leaves that 88 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: come straight off of its trunk, which is not woody, 89 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 2: prompting some botanists to call it a giant herb, very 90 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 2: large herb. Yeah, I know right, I love this. Each 91 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 2: leaf will like leave a scar on the stem when 92 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 2: it falls off. The new leaves sprout at the at 93 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 2: the top of the plant. It's sometimes planted. Is an ornamental. 94 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 2: It's real pretty, you know, like a really herby palm tree, 95 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: and it grows these these big, pretty kind of star 96 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 2: trumpet shaped yellow white flowers, which if pollinated, will grow 97 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 2: into large, oblong or roundish fruits with a smooth, thin 98 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 2: skin that's green when they're unripe and goes to yellow 99 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 2: to orange when they ripe. In the fruit inside is 100 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 2: green and like juicy crunchy when it's unripe, and then 101 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 2: goes pink to orange to reddish and very soft and 102 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 2: juicy when it's ripe, there's an oblong cavity down the 103 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 2: center of the fruit or I guess round, depending on 104 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 2: the shape of the fruit. But yeah, it contains many 105 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 2: small gray black seeds, each incased in a little kind 106 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 2: of juice sect. They are edible, but right sort of bitter, 107 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 2: and like I said, these fruit can get big, like 108 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 2: up to twenty pounds and eighteen inches long, that's about 109 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: nine kilos and thirty five centimeters long. Yeah. Ones that 110 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 2: you find in stores are more likely to be like 111 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 2: about a pound and around eight inches long. That's like 112 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: half a kilo and twenty centimeters but yeah, yeah, And 113 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 2: the fruit will continue ripening after harvest, and it does 114 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,799 Speaker 2: so pretty rapidly, which means that it can be difficult 115 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 2: to transport because it has a pretty short shelf life 116 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: post harvest that they can like over ripen and bruise 117 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: pretty easily. That offensive scent in a ripe papaya is 118 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 2: due to a compound called papaian, which has been described 119 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 2: in the scientific literature as sweaty, slash rancid. Yeah. Yeah, 120 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 2: it's actually this enzyme that's that's widely used in the 121 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: food and beverage industry to tenderize meat. Remove allergens from water, 122 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 2: like clarify and stabilize beer, among lots of other uses 123 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 2: in other industries as well, including like biomedical applications. A 124 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 2: perhaps more pleasant scent molecule in papaya is a linna lul, 125 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 2: which is Yeah, it's pretty characteristic of papia. It has 126 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: a sort of floral, spicy scent to it. Yeah, so yeah, right. 127 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: Papaya is great raw. Try it with lots of fresh 128 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: lime juice, you know, put it in a fruit salad 129 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: or a smoothie or a salsa. I don't know. I'm 130 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 2: pretty sure that the lime juice thing works because lime 131 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: juice is acidic enough to inactivate papian and when you 132 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: inactivate a protein or an enzyme, you kind of unravel it, 133 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: and I'm assuming that that does something to change the scent. 134 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. 135 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: I couldn't really find an answer, but that's what I'm guessing. Unripe, 136 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: it's used more. 137 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: Like a vegetable. 138 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 2: It's a little bit tough, but can be cut into 139 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 2: skinny slices and pounded tender for use in salads or 140 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 2: cooked into curries. I have never had cooked green papaya, 141 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: and now I really want to try that because that 142 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 2: sounds like an excellent addition to a curry. 143 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 1: It does, it does. Oh, the list goes on, it 144 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: grows longer. 145 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 2: Still too much to heat. 146 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: Too much? What about the nutrition? 147 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 2: In general, papaya contains a good punch of fiber and 148 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 2: lots of micro nutrients. Ride papaya can have a bunch 149 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 2: of sugar, but it also has developed even more micronutrients. 150 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, I don't know. In general, it'll 151 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 2: help fill you up, but to keep you going, pair 152 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 2: it with a fat and a protein which is tasty. 153 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 2: They do contain enzymes that can set off a latex allergy, 154 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 2: so if that's you, be aware, be safe. Yeah. Also, 155 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: as I kind of touched on above, a papion is 156 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: being investigated for all of these potential medical properties, including 157 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 2: like helping with various forms of inflammation, which could potentially 158 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: touch everything from like skincare and wound healing to heart disease. 159 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 2: But those are with like extracts with medically monitored applications. 160 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 2: You know, saber motto bodies are complicated. More research is 161 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 2: necessary before eating a medicinal amount of anything. Check with 162 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: the doctor. And that's not us. 163 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: It is not is that the first savor motto of 164 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. 165 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 2: Four, It might in fact be I don't remember last week, 166 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: so it's hard for me to say. 167 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: I think it is cool. I'll go out a limbs. 168 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 1: Then who's gonna. 169 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 2: Prove It's not like we have a record of these things. 170 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 1: No, No, Well, speaking of records, we have a couple 171 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: numbers for you. 172 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 2: We do. Papayas can contain between one hundred and four 173 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 2: hundred flavor compounds, though only about twenty five of those 174 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 2: occur and amounts detectable to the human palate. The rest 175 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 2: are just kind of hanging out in there. Yeah. As 176 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty, India was producing the most papayas, about 177 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: fourteen million metric tons per year, which was around forty 178 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 2: three percent of the world's crop. However, Mexico, which is 179 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 2: only the fifth largest grower, was exporting the most, some 180 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 2: forty seven percent of its crop, most of which goes 181 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 2: to the United States. The US is the largest importer 182 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 2: of in the world, and Brazil is the main supplier 183 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 2: to Europe. 184 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: Yes, and I again, always I would love to hear 185 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: from listeners because I, as I said, don't have a 186 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: lot of experience with papaya, And when I read the 187 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: US is the largest importer, it was kind of like, huh, 188 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: I wonder what that's going into. 189 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right, Like like my main experience with it 190 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 2: is either in these salads, in pounded salads, or in 191 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 2: or just like buying a tub of it cubed from 192 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 2: from a grocery store with a bunch of lime wedges 193 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 2: in the package already, and like taking it on a 194 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 2: picnic and having a really nice time. 195 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: That does sound like a nice time, It's very nice. Wow. 196 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: Let us know, listeners, But we do have some history 197 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: for you. 198 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 2: Oh we do, and we're going to get into that 199 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 2: as soon as we get back from a quick break 200 00:11:52,080 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 2: for a word from our sponsors, and we're back. Thank 201 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 2: you sponsor, Yes, thank you. 202 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: Yes. So, historians believe that papaya originated in Central America 203 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: and Mexico, where they were first domesticated, though as of recently, 204 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: archaeological evidence was pretty much non existent and or not definitive. 205 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: And I read a whole paper about why that is, 206 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: and it was interesting, okay, but the ultimate answer is 207 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 1: they don't have the evidence. 208 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 2: Was it like one of those like the fruit doesn't 209 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 2: really preserve well or it. 210 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: Was that, and I think there was something to do 211 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: with specifically how it decays. You can't differentiate it between. 212 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 2: Other things that are similar. I see, Oh that's fun. Okay, yeah, 213 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 2: it was fun. 214 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 1: So if you want to, if you're a nerd like 215 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: us and you want to learn more about it, it exists. 216 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: But I basically was like, sometimes you've got to pull back, 217 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: and yeah, ultimately the evidence they don't have it quite yet. 218 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 2: I did two pulling backs in my research for this one. 219 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 2: So yes, I know the feeling. Yes, very well. 220 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: Believe it or not. Listeners, you try to cultivate a 221 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: whole experience. Here could be listening to like our hour 222 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: long episodes. You might not think so, but believe us. 223 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: And it can't be tricky with one like this because honestly, 224 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: there wasn't too much about it. But okay, it does 225 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: have a long history of being used in a variety 226 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: of culinary preparations and medicinally. It also has a long 227 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: history of being used to make wine or other alcoholic beveragions. 228 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, I think I forgot. Yeah, I forgot to 229 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 2: put a note in about that above. 230 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: But yes, yes, the maya are believed to be one 231 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: of the first cultures to cultivate and trade papaya, and 232 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: some sources suggest that papaya and enzyme in papaya was 233 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: used by Meso American peoples to tenderize meats as well. 234 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, probably is like a juice kind of situation. Yeah. 235 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: Yes. After encountering the papaya during the fifteen hundreds, the 236 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: Spanish and Portuguese introduced the papaya to their colonies, and 237 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: records indicate that it was present in the Dominican Republic 238 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: and Panama during this time, and that the Spanish brought 239 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: the seeds to the Philippines and the fifteen hundreds. The 240 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: papaya was being cultivated in India by at least the 241 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: early sixteen hundreds. As it spread, it took really well 242 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: in tropical areas, and cultures cultivating them in those areas 243 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: found ways to incorporate them into local dishes and taste 244 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: in green Papaya salad is a very good example of that. Yes. 245 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, papayan was named in eighteen seventy nine by researchers 246 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 2: who partially purified it out of papaya sap so not 247 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 2: the actual fruit, but the kind of like late texi 248 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 2: sap in the skin. It was isolated in the nineteen 249 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: sixties and has become one of the most industrially used 250 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 2: plant compounds in the world. Yeah. 251 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: Well, a variety of papaya called the Solo was introduced 252 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: to Hawaii in nineteen ten, and it was a very 253 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: big commercial success. But that success took a hit due 254 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: to the papaya ringspot virus that got going in that 255 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: area in the nineteen fifties. Attempts were made to combat it, 256 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: including relocating where the papaya was grown, but by nineteen 257 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: ninety seven, the Hawaiian papaya industry was all but extinct. 258 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: Farms were going out of business and the crop yield 259 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: had dropped by forty percent. At the time, the US 260 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: government had just wrapped up a regulatory review on a 261 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: genetically engineered variety of papaya called the sun Up that 262 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: was resistant to the ring spot virus. They gave their 263 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: permission to two hundred farmers to plant this variety. A 264 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: year later, it was commercialized and the Hawaiian papaya industry 265 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: bounced back. 266 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a really amazing success story. The sun Up 267 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 2: had been in development since nineteen seventy eight, when the 268 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 2: Hawaiian plant virologist who was working at Cornell at the time, 269 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: like went home for a visit and realized that this 270 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 2: was an issue and kind of really devoted himself to it. 271 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 2: Over the next decade, they figured out how to take 272 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 2: proteins from the ringspot virus's coat, like the coat of 273 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 2: the protein or the coat of the virus, and add 274 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 2: them to the DNA of this variety of papaya called 275 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 2: the Sunset that was having this problem with the virus, 276 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 2: and they thus created the virus resistant sun up so 277 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 2: cute love it. They then crossed it with this high 278 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 2: yielding variety called the Rainbow and wound up with a 279 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 2: high yield virus resistant plant. Like it doesn't require herbicides. 280 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 2: It's been found safe to grow and consume. There's a 281 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 2: little bit there's still or there has been and still 282 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 2: is where we are still kind of working through reticence 283 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 2: to genetically modified plants because people get freaked out because 284 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 2: it's genetic modification. They're like, is is it safe? The 285 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 2: answer is in this case yes, So you know, hopefully, 286 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 2: hopefully this can be a solution to many other ringspot 287 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 2: virus problems around the world. 288 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, And this was also I feel like in 289 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: a lot of these episodes, we've run across people who 290 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: are very passionate about certain varieties. Oh yeah, so another 291 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: rabbit hole of your if you're if you're looking for one, 292 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: buy a varieties? 293 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 2: Yes, Oh my goodness, yeah yep. 294 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety three, Singapore issued special edition stamps featuring 295 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: the Papaya Oh should I love? And then this okay, 296 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: very briefly, because it kept popping up and I had 297 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: totally forgotten about this whole thing, and I've actually been 298 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 1: to this place. Okay, okay, let me step back. I'm 299 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: going to keep you in suspense, all right. In nineteen 300 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: twenty three, a Greek immigrant started work at ap and 301 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: eventually he bought it, and, after a trip to some 302 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: tropical locations in nineteen thirty two, renamed it Hawaiian Tropical Drinks, 303 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: though most of us know it now as papay A King, 304 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: Allegedly New York's first juice bar, it's got a very 305 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: iconic sign. Over the years, a couple more opened, and 306 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: by nineteen thirty nine hot dogs were added to the menu, 307 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: and this hot dog went on to become a bit 308 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 1: of a New York icon. It was often enjoyed with 309 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: papaya juse yes, and this classic sign above it reads 310 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 1: Papaya and all capital like neon letters. It's very eye catching. 311 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: That's about the original location, and it went up in 312 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: nineteen the nineteen fifties. Legend has it though, that it 313 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: wasn't until after some inspiration from Babe Ruth that the 314 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: name Papaya King came into use. I couldn't like prove 315 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: that story at all, so grain of salt, okay, all right, 316 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: and I'm going to super condense this. But basically, after 317 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: the success of Hawaiian tropical drinks Papaya King and in 318 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: the way of New York restaurants, numerous competitors started popping 319 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: up and selling hot dogs and tropical drinks, many of 320 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 1: them with papaya in their restaurant name. 321 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 2: Ah Yes. 322 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: Here is a list from Eater Yes Papaia Heaven, Papaya Paradise, 323 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: Papaya Place, Papaya Circle, Papaya World, Frank's Papaya, Papaya Check, 324 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: and Original Papaya. Oh. 325 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 2: Original Papaya is All. 326 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 1: We laughed so hard that it is such a New 327 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: York City restaurant thing. I love that, oh, because it 328 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: definitely was not the original Papaya anyway. Many of them 329 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: did end up closing, except for Gray's Papaya, and the 330 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: story goes that in the early seventies, Papya King was 331 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: looking at franchising and the owner of one of the 332 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: non company stores closed. The store reopened it as Gray's Papaya, 333 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 1: and they have the rivals ever since. Well, Papaia King 334 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: definitely has its fans, It definitely has a lot of 335 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: people who know about it. Julia Child once called Papiya 336 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: King the best hot dog in New York. 337 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: In New York, Okay, okay, it. 338 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: Does sound good. I almost include the whole description, but 339 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: you can look it up. And here's your Seinfeld quote 340 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: of the episode. I don't want a movie hot dog. 341 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: I want a Papaia King hot dog. And then Kramer 342 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: runs out of the theater. I don't think I knew 343 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 1: what it was when I saw the episode, but now 344 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: I know, Now I know. But yes, that was just 345 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: I totally it unlocked a part of my brain, my memories. 346 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: I'd forgotten i'd been there, I'd forgotten about that whole thing. 347 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have not experienced a Papia King. I feel 348 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 2: like I'm missing out you are. 349 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of listeners are gonna write in 350 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 1: opinions about that. I remember it being good. 351 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 2: No, if you have strong I mean, we always want 352 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 2: to hear strong opinions, no matter what they're about, but 353 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 2: especially if you have a Gray's Papaya versus Papiya King opinion. Yes, 354 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 2: I want to I want to hear that. I don't 355 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 2: want to hear your order. Yes, I need to know. Yes. 356 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: And does the papaya juice is that still? Does it 357 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: come at the Gray Papia place? Does it still available 358 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: at Paya King? We savor a Neyed's answers, and only 359 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 1: you can help. Yeah, we can't look this up. I'm 360 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: looking at it right now. Oh sorry, Oh my god, 361 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 1: Like we can't. We can't look this up. 362 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 2: No, they do offer fresh juices, but I don't think 363 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 2: papaya is one of them. 364 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: Well that's not looking good. Just let us know. 365 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 2: Confusion, Yeah, all right, let us know. 366 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: And again, like I said, this is one of those 367 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: unfortunate instances where I can find too much. So if 368 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 1: you have any experiences dishes, recipes, please write in lore. 369 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 2: Yeah papaya or yah? Yeah? Sure right, because you know 370 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 2: other than me going on at length about science that 371 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 2: I don't really understand about this extract papayan, or about 372 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 2: like the gold dust particles that they used to shoot 373 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 2: the virus pieces into the DNA. 374 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: Of the papaya. 375 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I was like, wow, I don't understand 376 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 2: that sentence at all, but that sounds really, really rad. 377 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 2: I think that is what we have to say about 378 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 2: the papaya for now. 379 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: It is indeed. Ah, but we do have some listener 380 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: mail for you. 381 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 2: Oh we do, and we're going to get into that 382 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 2: as soon as we get back from one more quick 383 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 2: break for a word from our sponsors. 384 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 1: They we're back, Thank you, sponsor, Yes, thank you, and 385 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 1: we're back with listeners. Yes, I'm very cold, listeners, Laurenc, 386 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: it looks like I'm dressed for the snow. Nice. So 387 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: papaia in a tropical climate sounds very love Yeah. 388 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, Annie's outfit looks like what they should have been 389 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 2: wearing in Game of Thrones when they were running around 390 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 2: above the north of the walls. 391 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: So yeah, yes, yes, if you want a side podcast 392 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: on Lauren critiques about lack of hat wear in Game 393 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: of Stones, I think we could make it happen. 394 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 2: I think we could yeah, yeah. 395 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: During cold times when it should have been worn right. 396 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, I know John Snow's hair is pretty, 397 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 2: but come on, man, he's gonna get hypothermia. 398 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: They're fine looking hats. You know, you can accentuate all 399 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: kinds of things. 400 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 2: It doesn't have right hoods are great, you know, man, 401 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 2: it doesn't have to be those goofy fray hats. Come 402 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 2: on anyway, Look, I can't wait to just pitch some 403 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 2: titles for that show for you. 404 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: Christine wrote, it's Boxing Day in Australia and friends, I 405 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: have spotted hot cross buns in the wild. No news 406 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: on weird varieties like cheese and halapinio, but I will 407 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: keep you posted, so yes. In the previous year, Christine 408 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: wrote in that this was a thing that happened around 409 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: Boxing Day in Australia and was sending in these flavors 410 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: and it was just sort of not what I'm used 411 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: to or when I'm used to hot cross bunds appearing. 412 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: But yes, also not what I'm used to flavor. 413 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 2: Was yeah, yeah, right right, I'm used to write ea, yes, 414 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 2: and they're pretty much only the sweet variety here with 415 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 2: icing and like currents or raisins in them. 416 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, So thank you for answering the column this Christine, 417 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: because we did ask for a fallow up and hopefully 418 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: get another one. We'll learn more about these. 419 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 2: Hot yeah buns in the Yeah, I'm not not about 420 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 2: a cheese or jalapeno hot cross bum. Well you would 421 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 2: be with, but that not specifically. Sure, that's large, that's 422 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 2: ichonny a little bit. It'll it'll be for yeah, it'll 423 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 2: work out okay anyway, Oh goodness uh uh. Eric wrote 424 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 2: the Saracha revisit with an update. Nice revisit, but obviously 425 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 2: some not so nice updates. I've recently moved over to 426 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 2: the leecome Key brand as it's a little easier to 427 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 2: find recently. Also, in doing a blind taste test, I 428 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 2: really couldn't taste any super noticeable difference. Always nice when 429 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 2: you do a classic and can provide new stuff. Rose 430 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 2: water is something I had not thought of in a while. 431 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 2: Seems like it was popular and showing up in a 432 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,479 Speaker 2: lot of stuff around ten or fifteen years ago and 433 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 2: now has faded into the background. Probably still used, just 434 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 2: not mentioned as much. There used to be an Indian 435 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 2: restaurant that had this amazing mango lassie that had rosewater 436 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 2: in it. The listener mail about the eating schedule in 437 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 2: one part of Finland was interesting. Enjoy hearing about things 438 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 2: like that. Lauren also gave us some advice later that 439 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 2: we need to keep snacks available around her to keep 440 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 2: our eyeballs. It did give me a thought it could 441 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 2: be a multi part episode Breakfasts around the world. I 442 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 2: find the variety of things interesting. I hope to travel 443 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 2: to Japan at some point and really want to do 444 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 2: the breakfast they have. I've done a full English in London, 445 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 2: had some simple light meals in Switzerland and Italy when younger. 446 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 2: Everything was wonderful. This great world of food and the 447 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 2: variety of things out there is just amazing. I just 448 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 2: think that the joy of not only experiencing different types 449 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 2: of food, but sharing food and stories of people over 450 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 2: food is something that we need to share more. Yes, 451 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 2: oh yes, yes, oh we're here are Yeah. 452 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: I do think breakfast would that would be a great 453 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: mini series because breakfast can vary wildly. 454 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and just fascinating and it's so much I mean, 455 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 2: it seems like a really nostalgic meal for a lot 456 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: of people and something that you do kind of stick 457 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 2: with tradition about more so than meals. 458 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I it's hard to like make a I 459 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: don't know generalization about it, because I was going to say, 460 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: I feel like breakfast varies the most of any of 461 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: the other meals I've experienced in other countries. It could 462 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: be that I'm just more used to having like bigger, 463 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 1: more varied meals at like something like lunch and dinner. 464 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: But I feel like a lot of countries I've been 465 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: and the breakfast is something so completely different than what 466 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: I would put in the category of breakfast food. Yeah, totally, 467 00:27:55,560 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: so I would. I think that's a great idea. Yeah, yes, yes, 468 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 1: mangolossy with rosewater sounds amazing. 469 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 2: I love oh yeah, yep. 470 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: Yes, and I do love how many recommendations we've heard 471 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: about siracha alternatives or like other things we can try, 472 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 1: because I I love hotsa, you know, I love patsau 473 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: So mm hmm any and all recommendation I am very 474 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 1: happy to get mm hmm. 475 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 2: Some thanks always, Yeah, yeah. 476 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: Yes, and thanks to both of these listeners for writing in. 477 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: If you would like to write to us, you can. 478 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: Our email is Hello at savorpod dot com. 479 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 2: We're also on social media You can find us on Twitter, Facebook, 480 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 2: and Instagram at saver pod and we do hope to 481 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 2: hear from you. 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