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We've got the whole cast and crew 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:01.960 ready to hold rock today, the. 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:04.120 Whole cast, all of it. 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:08.520 Patrick Nosey, Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah stand back, Chris Beam 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:09.080 in the back. 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:13.720 I'm Kyle Yeomans. You guys go ahead and spin around. 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:18.880 If you Chris Beam was in the back, he is definitely. 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:26.320 Incredible. Sources Okay, Chris Beam is in the back. 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:27.800 We would never reveal our sources. 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:31.959 If if you have never joined Talking Cowboy, Welcome, Welcome. 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:34.880 First off, you're in for a wild one. 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:38.520 Welcome to every day, every day, but specifically today, We're 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:41.000 already off to a hot start, yeah, and uh. 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:42.839 And guess what you ain't goin nowhere. 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:47.440 You gotta know if you also know if you ever 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:50.080 had a question on whether or not we enjoy working 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:52.240 together day in and day out and we get tired 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:55.320 of each other. That hasn't happened yet. No, no, we don't. 0:01:55.880 --> 0:02:03.920 We enjoy it a little crazy. Seven minutes before the show, 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:08.000 I think I've laughed more in those seven minutes than 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:09.480 i have over the last seven days. 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:12.040 We need we need a little bit of that. We 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:15.680 need a little lightness on top of all the darkness we. 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:19.399 See every I like the way you put that hate 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:19.920 back of. 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:28.320 Welcome into Talking Cowboys. Everybody, it is a Thursday. We're 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:30.760 gonna have lab code in the third segment, So Patrick 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:31.560 goc Walker is. 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:33.240 Going to drop some science. 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:37.200 Absolutely, what are we talking about today in lab coat? 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:38.840 Listen? 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:40.000 The Cowboys? 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:41.560 Yeah, we are talking about the castles. 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:44.160 Okay, that's good. It ain't at least we're on topic. 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:47.960 It ain't pretty smash smash, which is we talk about. 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:51.760 Stephen Jones said earlier this week when he was asked 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:55.840 on One three Fan if the Cowboys are still a 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:58.400 playoff team. He still views the Cowboys of the playoff team, 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:02.120 and he said absolutely that absolutely has stuck in my 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:06.240 crawl ever since my craw not in the crawl in 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:11.880 my Where is that located? It's a family show, curious 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:16.120 at least sometimes never heard of it. Yeah, it's well, okay, 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:17.720 you're not from the South. I'm not from you're not 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:18.239 from the South? 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:19.440 Yeah, yes, northwest South. 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:22.560 Yeah, something sticking in your craw is absolutely a Southern phrase. 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:25.519 Oh yeah, it's a thing. So we'll we'll talk about 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:28.880 that because absolutely. 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:33.160 Use in Washington, is it like grinding your throwing in 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:36.840 the side buttering. 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:40.560 They were just grinding my gears with that whole thing. 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:46.120 Is probably gonna okay, yeah, same, Okay, it irked me. 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:47.240 Stuck in the crawl. 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:48.520 Little residue. 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:54.600 Is patrick when you talk about Stephen Jones saying that's 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:54.880 the ground? 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:55.080 Right? 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:58.920 Yeah, So let's just say we'll talk about how absolutely 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:03.320 shouldn't have a subjective definition based on who's answering the question. 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:06.960 Yeah it is the cow Are the Cowboys a playoff team? 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:10.560 We'll talk about that nice coming up in segment three, 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:13.000 We're gonna of course preview the Dallas defense going up 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:14.720 against the Arizona Cardinals offense. 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:16.800 In the second segment, I did the Lord's work the 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:19.000 other day, did I did? What is that? It was 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:21.160 on Tuesday when I was on Good Morning Football. 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:24.360 They were talking there talking, no, no, listen, I represent 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:30.640 our people, Okay. They were asking about Cinderella teams. They 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:34.080 said Cinderella teams. I said, I don't like the term Cinderella, 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:36.400 but they're pretty much saying like teams that you have 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:38.880 to be aware of that could get into the playoffs 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:41.799 based upon their current standings, right, And I so teams 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:43.680 that are under the radar, under the raid because of. 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:46.640 The start exactly. And I went to bat for the Cowboys. 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:48.440 I went to bat for the Cowboys, and I said 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:51.480 that the Cowboys get into which play because I truly 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:53.640 believe it. I said, I believe the Cowboys sneak into 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:55.760 the playoffs and the number two spot in the NFC 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:56.920 East with eight eight and one. 0:04:57.720 --> 0:04:59.440 That's what I said. Did they get in with eight 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:01.200 eight and one? That's how they slide into the playoffs? 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:05.120 So what will you giants? Oh? Seven, well, eleven. 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:07.640 Eleven, twenty eleven, So you think there they could be 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:08.719 the twenty eleven Giants. 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:10.679 Yes, That's when I walked away with jewelry. 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:13.320 Hmm, you can see. 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:17.840 That's why you have the date, Bernie. Yeah. 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:22.920 The only part of me that disagrees. We've talked about 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:24.960 this before. This team is not as far off as 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:28.039 you think, and there are there are ways to fix 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:30.040 it now. And that's why I think all of us 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:32.839 collectively have said, please do something and the next week 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:33.200 and a half. 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:34.320 I mean, you don't know, it's less than that. How 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:35.839 many days? Now says it's five days. 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:38.160 Yeah, it's next Tuesday, tuesdays. 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:41.680 So with all that being said, they're not too far off, 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:43.760 but with the schedule that they have in front of them, 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:45.520 it is not easy. 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:48.120 You know what, it was worse before the season started. 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:51.880 What was worse the schedule was worse the team. 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:54.279 I mean that's always yeah, you mean, because that's the 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:55.039 parody of the NFL. 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:56.400 Yeah, but you've already. 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:58.960 Lost to the Broncos and I hear the Panthers. I 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:00.840 hear you in both of those teams. Going into the year, 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:02.800 you probably would have said you had a shot against it. 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:04.800 But that's actually. 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:07.719 Proving his point though, because before the season started, that skip, 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:10.160 that part of the schedule looked a lot leaner than 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:12.920 it did now that we're currently in it, and the 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:15.120 Panthers and the Broncos both look a lot better than 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:18.720 you kind of expected going into the season. Yeah, yeah, 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:20.120 I'm kind of with you, and I don't think those 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:22.080 powerhouse teams that you're expecting at the end of the 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:24.360 schedule are quite the same look at the I mean 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:27.480 the Vikings we were talking about as like Washington, I 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:31.120 don't know Washington. I don't know even the Chiefs to 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:33.479 some extent, Brandon, they're kind of back on track. 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:35.680 Chargers are better than what you thought they were going 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:38.200 into the year. Of course, the Eagles, the Chiefs, and 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:40.599 the Lions are still juggernauts in this league. 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:42.440 The Raiders probably aren't. 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:45.760 That you anticipated that being a win, and they're not 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:47.960 going to go down without a fight. You think Ashton 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:50.559 gent is gonna have something to say about playing against 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:52.320 the Cowboys after growing up in Frisco. 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:54.640 I mean, it has a lot to say. 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:55.120 He had. 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:59.279 Whatever he wants to say with the whole line is, yeah, 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:02.920 no matter what I think, and what really. 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:05.600 I think, I think eight wins. I truly think eight 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:06.120 eight and one. 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:08.280 I don't think that's out of the Roman possiblity at all. 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:08.960 I think that's fair. 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:10.880 What that gets you in and eight eight and one 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:13.480 in the NFC, Yes, in the NFC, Yes, with the 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:16.480 commanders stumbling it, it might might very well. But what's 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:21.239 gonna with the the ratchet in the in the gears 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:25.160 is really going to be if you somehow survive Philly. 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:27.320 And I believe you can't survive Philly because you almost 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:29.480 beat Philly. But that's still going to be a mark. 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:32.920 He's going to be a Philly Kansas City who looks 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:35.720 back on track, the Detroit Lions powerhouse. You don't know 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:39.280 what you get from the Vikings toss up. Maybe Vikings Chargers. 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:43.160 We already know Herbert is playing. He's playing like he's playing. 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:46.920 If you somehow survived that, those the fact that your 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:51.080 last two games or division division games could could very 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:53.280 well fall right into this point. 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:54.600 I think you need six. 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:58.520 I'm giving five. Fine, I'm giving I mean who I 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:01.960 think who they take. I'm not making any No, it's 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:04.880 not Friday. But you got Arizona, you got the Raiders. 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:07.360 I think you Minnesota. I think you win that one 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:08.920 to Washington. 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:09.000 And New York. 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:11.440 You got a shot to win all of those games. 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:14.240 Absolutely, that's what I think. Eight and one. I think 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:18.480 you split with Washington. I do too. You've already won one, 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:21.840 so that means and that means you know, I don't. 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:22.680 So here's what I'm saying. 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:27.000 I said, you split with Washington because at that point, 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:29.200 if it even if it plays out to what you're saying, 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:33.800 that means that Week seventeen game might be deciding between 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:36.839 Washington and the Cowboys who gets the wildcard spot. So 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:38.600 Washington's going to play out of their mind. And oh, 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:41.440 by the way, you're in Washington. Granted Dak Prescott excels 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:44.760 in Washington, but still nonetheless, I mean commanders Washington. Washington 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:47.200 is having a lot of issues right now. I agree 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:49.880 they've lost their rather not getting Doran's back for the year. Yeah, 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:52.319 so they've lost a lot of positions that are influential 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:56.480 the year Eler's gone. I think Scary Terry is hindered. 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:58.400 I don't know that he'll be himself this year because 0:08:58.440 --> 0:08:59.199 that quad is just. 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:02.520 Both of those receivers or not quad is the quad Obviously. 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:06.240 They don't, So I just think that their compen defense, but. 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:10.640 At least not to throw water on the conversation or anything. 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:12.120 But I think that goes to the point that you're 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:13.760 going to make in Science Lab too. It's like this, 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:15.800 I'm thinking of the playoff team. 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:19.360 Oh okay, so question being that the one should not 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:21.160 get in the playoffs, but it should not. It should not, 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:25.200 but it has it is okay, real quick with the position. 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:28.440 We'll have one more show, two more shows before the trade. 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:29.520 Yeah. 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:29.760 Three. 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:34.679 Actually, Tuesday's going to be basically a trade deadline preview for. 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:37.560 Sure, positional need and then they'll wait until our show 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:39.440 is over to make a move one position. 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:41.720 If you were to make a move one position right now. 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:44.840 Defensive tackle, edge rusher, edge rush, edge edge tackle tackle. 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:49.840 Okay, yeah, you think that you're going defensive line either way. 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:51.920 You think the edge is going to make a big difference. Yes, 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:54.800 nobody's given up their premier defensive edge rusher. 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:55.079 Not yet. 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:57.280 And I wouldn't be willing to give up the given 0:09:57.320 --> 0:09:57.600 one up. 0:09:57.679 --> 0:09:59.640 I wouldn't be willing to give the compensation where they 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:01.400 have to give to get an edge right now. I 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:03.400 wouldn't be willing to give up the composition that you have. 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:04.680 To agree is fair. 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:07.600 I'd be willing to give up the compensation for to. 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:09.280 Get a sack tier because you're gonna get a second 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:11.880 tier right defensive airG DRC. If you get one, you're 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:13.760 gonna get a second tier edge rusher. You're not gonna 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:14.760 get the premiere. 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:16.600 I think I can agree with it, and you're gonna 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:17.040 have to overpay it. 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:22.160 Don't think about premiere. You think about Crosby Hutchinson, Micah Garrett. 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:25.880 Those are premiere, Yeah, locked up, So people beneath that 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:26.880 are second tier. 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:28.520 There's not disrespect, it just is what it is. There's 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:29.280 levels of everything. 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:31.800 You would be getting a second tier edge rusher, and 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:33.600 you would have to give up something hefty in order 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:35.319 to get them in a team that's going to give 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:37.559 them up probably has other pass r I'm not considered 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:38.080 better than them. 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:40.880 I'm not making that move if it's not unless it's 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:42.280 for and. 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:45.120 Nobody's giving up an elite pass rusher. Probably they're signing them. 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:48.760 That's the point, is what they're doing. 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:51.800 So to that point that that's why I feel strongly 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:52.960 about I think. 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:54.760 Somebody would give up a premier detackle. 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:57.720 I also feel like linebackers in their process as well. 0:10:57.720 --> 0:11:01.080 Probably one might also give up a premier safety. Yes, 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:03.320 I don't think if it's a team safety safety, you 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:06.240 definitely need help as safety. But I think the greatest impact. 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:09.560 The greatest impact is a dtackle because if you have 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:12.280 a if you bring in a great D tackle, a great, 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:14.719 not a good, a great D tackle, and you put 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:17.600 him next to Clark and Osa, I think that you 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:20.880 now are formidable against the run. And if you could 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:23.720 be formidable and take away something that the opposing team 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:27.160 can do, well, yes, now you can focus on one 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:29.760 aspect that you're weak. Right now, you're trying to focus 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:31.280 on multiple So. 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:33.840 To get solidify one, to be mid. 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:37.600 At a couple of spots you're mid and right. If 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:40.600 you could be remotely dominant or at least discouraging at 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:43.439 one spot and take away one aspect of a game, now, 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:45.600 all of a sudden, now is process of elimination. 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:46.920 I can negate what you're doing. 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:48.960 I don't improves linebacker play as well. 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:52.880 Absolutely, the linebackers that you have would be the benefactors 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:56.040 of a solid D line. Think about all the great defenses, honestly, 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:58.760 think about the great defenses in history. They all had 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:01.360 solid D lines. Oh yeah, we can't all agree on 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:03.920 the D line for sure. I'm not talking about it. No, 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:07.120 you're talking d d ns don't help linebackers be great. 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:09.720 D tackles help linebackers be great. So if you can't 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:12.719 turn over your linebackers, and you have talented linebackers that 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:14.840 just need need some assistance because they're getting blocked by 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.240 three hundred pounds, get the dominant D tackles, and all 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:19.000 of a sudden, your linebacker has become better because what 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:20.240 do they do do best? 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:20.880 And I like that. 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:22.560 I like the point that you're making, though, is that 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:25.320 getting a defensive tackle would improve not only the defensive 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:28.120 tackle and sure the defensive line, but also the linebacker, 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:29.920 where as an edge rusher would only improve. 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:32.760 So let me paint this this this context for you, 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:34.440 and I don't disagree. 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:35.720 I don't disagree. 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:36.320 Everything you're saying. 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:39.840 Yeah, but let me and this is Kyle's gonna love 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:41.199 this guy segways right to the run. 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:44.360 I completely disagree, I say, and that rarely happens. 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:46.040 Here happens. 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:49.480 Here's why I don't believe they will trade for defensive 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:52.400 tackle number one. You already did that, okay that I 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:56.000 don't see them doing it twice in one season. But also, 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:58.960 and this is not from a me standpoint, I'm telling 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:01.000 you what their thought is going to be understood. 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:04.000 Who returned to practice yesterday. 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:06.360 Okay, now you can have the conversation all the live 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:08.679 long day about oh, is that going to be enough? 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:10.360 I don't know that it will be. 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:12.880 So I agree that it may not be enough, and 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:15.240 that if you were going to entertain it, you wouldn't 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:17.720 let Perreon Winfrey stop you from entertaining it. 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:18.880 That's my stance. 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:21.679 However, let's flip to the to the front office, this 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:25.240 thought process, the fact that they have returned Perryon Winfrey 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:29.439 to practice five days six days yesterday, six days ahead 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:32.120 of the trade deadline, which means they haven't seen Pereon 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:36.439 Winfrey on the field yet. They're going to apply belief 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:39.920 there and they're going to tell themselves that Perryon Winfrey 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:43.800 is the solution behind Kenny Clark and alongside O SO 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:45.560 and Sally. I'm telling you that's what they're going to 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:47.240 tell them. I understand what you're saying. I would love 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:49.880 to be incorrect, but I'm telling you, based on covering 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:52.040 this team and their moves in their thought process or 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:54.120 respect your expert, that's what they're looking at all right, 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:56.400 Not that I agree, but that's what out side of 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:58.280 pereyon Winfrey, so we can get back on the track 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:00.960 outside of now this is on track because the rundown 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:03.599 was Parry, Harry and Winfrey. We can't have any expectations 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:05.079 of him right now. So let's move him to the 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:10.439 side as should Let's move him we can's. 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:14.559 Push him to the side. Okay, who's behind Clark? Name 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:16.000 the two people it's. 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:18.400 Switching at. 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:22.240 I don't, So you're going to go. I'm still I'm 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:22.680 going to go. 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:26.320 You're a dominant detail, not not a good one, not 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:29.640 a contributor, a dominant I'm talking about somebody who walks 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:31.560 up to the line of scrimmage. You see him and 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:34.160 Kenny Clark next to each other, and you're like, crap, 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:37.360 let's go to the outside and where your linebackers go. 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:40.080 We can run a hit. There's no question about that. 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:42.720 Does anybody have any questions about our current linebackers ability 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:45.680 to run and hit unimpeded by offensive lineman. No, So 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:50.120 you automatically get better. You automatically get better. You're running defense, 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:54.480 Your run rush defense gets substantially better. Your your ability 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:56.720 for your linebackers to build their confidence they're running hit 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:57.800 and do what they do best. 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:01.280 Increases by changing one one position. 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:03.800 If you get a defensive end, yes, you could can 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:05.720 improve in the past us until they put somebody else 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:08.720 over there to help block, and then what everybody else? 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:10.960 Every other position is still the same. Your rush defense 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:13.000 still didn't improve. Your linebackers are still having the same 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:15.680 issues they have. You can solve a lot with this defense. 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:18.680 This the safety position needs help because their communication has 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:21.880 been pepula pew. But in terms of impacting the front 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:25.520 seven D tackle, get it. And there's teams that are 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:29.560 struggling right now that have dominant D tackles. There are 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:32.200 teams that are willing to say, hey, we're in the 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:34.480 in the crapper, you. 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:35.680 Want him, now here you go. 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:37.720 And I'm going to throw this to caut How many 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:40.600 teams are struggling with the dominant pass rush off the edge? 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:41.640 Nobody's giving That's the thing. 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:44.400 Nobody know what I'm saying, Like, it's possible to still 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:48.800 struggle with an elite name and five dominant defensive ends 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:51.200 in this league, Doman. 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:54.360 You just named most of them, and Garrett Crosby, And. 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:57.040 Are any of those teams give up their guys? Absolutely not. 0:15:57.520 --> 0:15:59.800 So we said we all agree with Las Vegas may 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:01.000 be looking for it. 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:03.920 We all agree. We all agree of them are great. 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:06.120 Yeah, we all agree that they are not giving You're 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:07.800 not giving up a dominant defensive end. 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:11.840 You're not. So do you believe that for the right price. 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:14.240 I think for the right price, what Dallas is willing 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:16.680 to give up, let's yes, But we don't We don't 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:19.160 know what Dallas is. We definitely know, we definitely know 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:21.160 anybody's guys gonna require if you want to get a 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:23.680 dominant defensive end. You're talking about you're in a conversation 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:26.200 of a first and a couple of twos threes like 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:27.040 you're you're giving up. 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:28.520 But we don't know what Dallas is willing to give. 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:29.400 That's what I'm sacking. 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:32.440 I don't know what they are willing to do. 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:36.600 And if one of the player, if there's a of 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:40.400 capital to do it and it's going to secure you 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:43.000 an elite level at Edge Rusher, I think it will 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:44.320 be possible. 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:46.560 It is possible that that that you. 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:48.360 Know what, I don't disagree. Everything is possible. 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:51.280 However, the probability of any of these teams giving up 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:52.280 their elite pastors, we. 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:54.120 Just went through it. Sure, Michael, you just had just had. 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:57.400 He's the nature of the position. Mass rushers are premier 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:01.680 and they cost more. Defensive tackles are not that flashy 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:04.240 premiere position, so they don't cost as much. 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:06.600 That's why I want That's why you which is fine. 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:09.159 I get it. Suring shoring up. 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:13.040 What you've got on the inside of that interior defensive 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:15.800 line is going to help your football team. I don't 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:18.760 disagree there, but I'm also going to raise you the 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:22.359 fact that this isn't the only spot on the defense 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:23.640 that needs help. 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:26.240 You need help everywhere else you do. And you already 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:26.960 if you would. 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:31.240 Argue out of defensive tackle, ed rusher, linebacker, corner, safety, 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:33.719 who has played the best out of those five position 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:36.199 groups on the defensive side, my answer would be the 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:38.000 interior of the defensive line. 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:40.719 Even more reason to get a dominant guy. You can 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:41.720 be more dominant. 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:44.160 But the second Kenny Clark is out, what are you do? 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:46.680 He's not out, He was almost out, He was almost. 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:48.520 But this guy was gonna fall At that point, they're 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:49.720 they're going to save. 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:51.080 You can say that with anything. 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:54.280 You could say, oh, what happens whenever, but Dak Press 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:54.880 got out. 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:56.640 What happens when Jake fred out. 0:17:56.800 --> 0:17:59.400 You can have that same conversation with you, but can 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:03.080 you Disagree's have seven defensive tackles that can play football 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:05.560 and allow for the rest of our defense to fall apart. 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:08.600 You have one, you have one that you got three, 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:11.399 you have one. You have one that discourages the opposing 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:12.440 team from running up the middle. 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:13.400 Yeah. 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:15.800 One, let me ask you. Let me ask you is 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:18.080 keep it one hundred question. What's the most important position 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:19.520 in all the football quarterback? 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:20.160 Quarterback? 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:23.920 Okay, so if you harass, terrorize, and take down the quarterback, 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:27.520 you probably but you can probably see that. 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:28.680 Though you can scheme. 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:31.080 I don't know you can sack a quarterback five times 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:33.679 in a single game and not win this year. 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:36.000 There's a handful of guys there. 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:38.040 Again, we just went down the list of a handful 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:41.360 of guys that can single handedly disrupt your game. Like 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:42.960 like what I'm saying, Like you can circle them and say, 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:46.440 these guys are different, these guys are different, Miles Garrett, 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:50.440 Max Crosby, Hutchinson, Micah. Outside of that, there's a handful 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:51.879 of other guys that you're like, Okay, these guys, they 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:54.560 can affect the game, but you're not fearful of anybody 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:56.720 else outside of those guys, maybe a hunter down there 0:18:56.760 --> 0:18:59.280 and with the Houston Texas. Other than that, there's some 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:01.959 really good path streussers. But they're not those guys, right, 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:04.000 you know what I'm saying. Those guys are premiere, like 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:06.679 cream of the crop. Like, hey, those guys, whatever the 0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:10.160 heck they want, because they're that dominant. Outside of that, 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:15.800 there's not you can literally discourage teams from running the 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:19.960 ball straight straight, That's where you're issuing, and then. 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:21.080 They're going to drop back and past. 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:23.400 Yeah, then they're gonna throw it all under in terms 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:24.080 of they'ren. 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:25.480 You have to make one move. 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:26.280 This is my question. 0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:28.760 If you had to make one move, that one move 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:31.359 at DETAC will improves multiple position groups. 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:33.240 I would argue a pass rusher does the same. 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:38.800 Not even a little bit. It gives a little bit teams. 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:41.600 Teams have all day to throw the football. 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:43.679 And then what if ax is in the pocket. 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:46.120 What if we talked about with these mobile quarterbacks, when 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:48.719 they get outside the pocket, how does that affect your 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:54.040 secondary contain? How do they get outside the pocket. I'm 0:19:54.080 --> 0:19:56.960 not arguing you're not fixed. I'm not arguing that you're 0:19:57.160 --> 0:20:00.239 that you don't have other issues. We understand that. 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:02.320 That's what I'm saying is if you had to make 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:04.679 one move, what move is going to be the most 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:09.320 impactful for your entire defense. But here's here's where Kyle 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:11.119 and I correct me from. Here's where Kyle and I 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:14.760 stand in relation to your Yeah, you went and got 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:21.720 a pass rusher, right as it stands, safety, safety, cornerback, linebacker, 0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:23.800 defensive end, defensive tackle. 0:20:24.119 --> 0:20:25.440 Of those groups. 0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:28.200 The team, the group that has had the strongest showing 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:31.520 for the most part of the season is defensive tackle. 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:34.720 You're saying, throw more at that. 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:39.200 And ignore the glaring issue at one of the weakest 0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:42.479 points of your attack, which is defensive end, which also 0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:45.800 rather you agree or not, it's true as it also 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:48.959 helps impact what happens on the back end because if 0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:51.879 you're pressuring these quarterbacks and you're knocking them off the 0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:53.960 spot and you're keeping contained. 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:55.560 That helps keep them in the pocket. 0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:58.119 Guess what now, Your defensive tackles, when they penetrate, they 0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:01.160 can get to them. Windows get shortened on the back end, 0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:04.919 But when they break, when they break contain, linebackers get stressed, 0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:08.800 cornerbacks get stressed. Secondary safeties can stressed and then chunk 0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:10.480 plays explosive downfields. 0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:12.320 So I'm right there with out right here. 0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:13.880 So let me give you a different perspective from from 0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:16.600 a quarterbacks perspective. I can promise you I was less 0:21:16.600 --> 0:21:18.919 concerned about dns than I was about detackles because you 0:21:18.960 --> 0:21:23.840 can move completely more. All of them can move absolutely. 0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:26.120 But guess what I'm telling you. If you have two 0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:28.919 dominant defensive linement, how many offensive linemen are required to 0:21:28.920 --> 0:21:29.680 block them? 0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:32.240 Probably two, three to four, three, three to four. 0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:36.880 So now now your defensive ends now have what you 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:39.040 single up right one on one matchups. Correct. 0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:40.280 I don't disagree. 0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:44.720 That's how football. We're not disagreeing, Isaiah, but you're disagreement. 0:21:44.840 --> 0:21:49.520 Yes, you're saying not even an impactful on an upgrade upgrade. 0:21:49.560 --> 0:21:53.040 Le's talk about your egos. Okay, where do you not 0:21:53.119 --> 0:21:56.040 want to go up the middle? However, do they have 0:21:56.080 --> 0:21:57.840 a dominant pass rusher right now? But do they have 0:21:58.080 --> 0:22:00.920 pass rushes who can impact the game? Do the Cowboys 0:22:00.960 --> 0:22:02.920 have pass rushers who can impact the game? And I'm 0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:06.080 not talking about easy Eagles. He's progressing, But for the 0:22:06.119 --> 0:22:09.600 most part, at least the Eagles have who edge rushers 0:22:09.600 --> 0:22:11.600 that are serviceable at least. 0:22:12.119 --> 0:22:14.679 I think getting you a defensive tackle and shuring up 0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:17.000 that spot makes those pass rushers. 0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:19.280 Better better, and you could argue, you can. 0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:20.040 Argue on both sides. 0:22:20.280 --> 0:22:23.199 You can argue on most sass rusher can impact positively 0:22:23.240 --> 0:22:24.159 the defensive tax. 0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:25.639 But you're not going to get an elite one. 0:22:25.800 --> 0:22:29.119 Here's here's just not an upgrade you need anything. 0:22:29.240 --> 0:22:29.440 There. 0:22:29.960 --> 0:22:32.560 Your your best defensive tackle right now, tell you it's. 0:22:32.520 --> 0:22:34.400 Less impactful than a de tackle. I'm just telling you. 0:22:34.400 --> 0:22:38.400 Your best defensive tackles right now are Kenny Clark and Osaz. 0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:41.120 That's a good one to two punch on the inside 0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:44.240 of your defensive line. Good When you look outside, you've 0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:49.200 got a growing Donovan Azeraki and you have James Houston 0:22:49.240 --> 0:22:52.480 who have made the most impact at your edge rusher spot. 0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:56.440 Nothing against those two guys, but you can upgrade at 0:22:56.440 --> 0:22:59.959 that position. When you go get a dominant defensive tackle. 0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:02.760 All that's doing is taking one or two of Osa 0:23:03.200 --> 0:23:06.520 or Kenny off the field, and then it's just I 0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:09.560 get it. Are you gonna play three defensive tackles? Do 0:23:09.600 --> 0:23:12.520 you consider Osa to be a true one technique? No, 0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:15.000 he's a three takes three alays. Can he play five? 0:23:16.119 --> 0:23:17.920 Probably not? Absolutely, he can't. 0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:18.359 I don't know. 0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:21.680 He hasn't done a whole lot of that. Here's my thing. 0:23:21.960 --> 0:23:24.720 I don't disagree with you that they can be better 0:23:24.800 --> 0:23:27.600 at stopping the run. And I don't disagree with you 0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:31.800 that having another dominant defensive tackle can help your linebackers. 0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:35.240 All of that is factual, all of that can be happening. 0:23:35.680 --> 0:23:38.520 But I think when you have your main problem right 0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:42.040 now as quarterbacks having time to throw picking apart your 0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:45.280 secondary and a secondary that is stretched so thin at 0:23:45.320 --> 0:23:48.800 safety and at cornerback, that anything you can do to 0:23:48.920 --> 0:23:51.399 take time off their plate you're gonna do. 0:23:51.560 --> 0:23:51.679 So. 0:23:52.080 --> 0:23:55.879 Stopping the run has always been secondary in this defense, 0:23:56.200 --> 0:23:58.920 and still they do that better than they do with 0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:01.640 stopping the pass, right, And that's why I want to pass. 0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:02.800 That's what we are in real quick. 0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:05.080 I don't disagree with anything you're saying. 0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:07.240 You want to be mid everywhere. No, here's what I'm saying. 0:24:07.320 --> 0:24:10.840 I want to be serviceable on defense, which is the 0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:11.600 whole point there. 0:24:11.600 --> 0:24:14.320 It does no ball, You're right, we agree, Isaia knows ball. 0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:16.240 Not disagreeing with what I say. 0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:18.760 But for the gentleman in the chat that's saying what 0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:21.760 Kyle and noci are missing is that the losses are 0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:25.280 predicated to pun the Cowboys run defense. Okay, we're not 0:24:25.359 --> 0:24:28.280 missing that. What we're saying is the Cowboys made a 0:24:28.320 --> 0:24:30.360 trade for a three time pro bowler. 0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:31.840 Yes, okay, so, and. 0:24:32.000 --> 0:24:34.200 They paid eighty million dollars to their three. 0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:38.679 Technique exactly so in their mind, and before week five, 0:24:38.840 --> 0:24:41.480 I'll say the run defense showed it could do some things. 0:24:41.720 --> 0:24:44.560 Before week five and going through now you have how 0:24:44.560 --> 0:24:47.520 many instances of the past rush impacting the game positively? 0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:50.800 Maybe one one New York. That's all you got. 0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:53.879 So we're not we're not missing the point of the 0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:56.200 run defense needs to be what it is. We're saying, 0:24:56.520 --> 0:25:01.320 you are so deficient an impact on the edges versus 0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:06.000 your ability to impact the middle of the defense, that 0:25:06.080 --> 0:25:06.760 you have to. 0:25:06.720 --> 0:25:09.680 Attack the weakest point when you're adding talent. That's all 0:25:09.680 --> 0:25:10.160 we're saying. 0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:12.280 We're not saying the world beaters that were stopping the run, 0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:15.480 we're saying they can't change the game. All we have 0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:17.399 different approaches. If I was a general manager, I want 0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:19.280 to be dominant somewhere. I don't want to I don't 0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:20.679 want to be I want to be in in a 0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:22.440 couple of places. I want to be dominant somewhere where 0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:25.399 are you dominant? I want to be dominant in the middle. 0:25:26.200 --> 0:25:28.359 Take away something that they do. I don't want them 0:25:28.359 --> 0:25:30.760 to have the ability to feel comfortable and confident doing 0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:33.040 everything because I have one guy who may or may 0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:33.640 not get to the quarter. 0:25:33.680 --> 0:25:37.880 But you're at a seventies disagreeing that. 0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:41.160 Our point being kyling out, our point being you can 0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:43.040 be dominant in the middle. 0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:46.720 Wonderful. That's wonderful. Would love that, Love that. 0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:49.960 But the quarterback having time to throw, being able to 0:25:50.000 --> 0:25:53.200 break contain to stress your linebackers and your secondary that's oh, 0:25:53.280 --> 0:25:56.199 by the way, suffering so many injuries. They don't know 0:25:56.240 --> 0:25:57.399 what to do with themselves. 0:25:57.920 --> 0:25:59.240 Why would you cool? 0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:01.920 You can stop the run and then Russell Wilson is 0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:03.560 going to come in and throw for five hundred. 0:26:03.640 --> 0:26:03.800 Y'all. 0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:06.239 What Josh and I are saying is your guys that 0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:09.359 you have that you don't feel comfortable and competent with 0:26:09.440 --> 0:26:12.520 right now become serviceable when you are able to dominate 0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:14.560 in one area. We're saying, if you have to make 0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:17.120 one change, that make the biggest ripple effect. 0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:18.520 De tackle does that. 0:26:18.640 --> 0:26:20.800 It makes your defensive ends have one on one matchups 0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:23.200 allows or your linebackers are running hit everybody. 0:26:23.280 --> 0:26:24.960 That whole front seven gets better. 0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:27.359 As a whole, as I just said, and we do 0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:29.800 have to go to break. As I just said, I 0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:33.199 think you've already gotten solid defensive tackle play and it 0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:34.320 hasn't mattered outside. 0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:38.160 That's that's the point from me, solid dominant correct? 0:26:38.280 --> 0:26:42.479 Solid? Are you even remote? Solid on the even remotely? 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Nice to 0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:40.240 meet you, Travis, Go Cowboys Go. 0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:44.680 Cowboys make a new friend based solely on their shirt choice. 0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:46.200 What would you like the power to do? 0:28:46.680 --> 0:28:49.800 Bank of America the Official Bank of the Dallas Cowboys, 0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:51.080 Copyright twenty twenty five. 0:28:51.120 --> 0:29:00.360 Bank of America Corporation to Talking Cowboys. 0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:11.160 Back here on Talking Cowboys, presented by Black Rifle Coffee Company. 0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:13.520 This segment is brought to you by Invisi Line, the 0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:16.880 Official Smile of the Dallas Cowboys with Patrick Noci Walker, 0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:19.720 Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah Standback, Chris Beam in the back of 0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:20.520 Kyle Yeomans. 0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:22.760 That was the biggest sway of a segment ever. I mean, 0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:24.680 that was a very long first segment, but the way 0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:26.840 we got into it starting the show, it was so 0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:29.400 good by the time we ended the segment. That's hilarious. 0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:31.360 Sorry I came with the curve ball, but I like 0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:31.720 it though. 0:29:31.840 --> 0:29:35.959 We're football guys, yeah, right, like football part of the 0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:38.280 podcasting space and part of this game and why we 0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:40.600 love it so much, or the debates that come out 0:29:40.600 --> 0:29:42.280 of it, of course. I mean, and as long as 0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:44.560 you're able to be civil in a debate and debate 0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:48.040 with your brothers civilized, it's it's legitimately one of the 0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:50.320 most fun things, so good that you could possibly do. 0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:51.840 That's why people love fantasy. 0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:53.080 Football, because you get to fight with everybody. 0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:53.360 Yeah. 0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:56.080 I got enough fight my best man at my wedding 0:29:56.200 --> 0:29:58.520 yesterday because he meddled in a trade I was trying 0:29:58.560 --> 0:29:59.920 to make on my foot. 0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:02.840 Dynasty League got mad at you. 0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:05.960 Sounds super villain. I'm telling you I was legitimate. 0:30:06.840 --> 0:30:10.160 Yes, he's trying to be Adam schefter for our league 0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:12.840 and also try and be a GM in our league. 0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:16.040 And it's a conflict of interest where he knows what a. 0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:19.440 Conflict of interest in the use of fantasy football is insane. 0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:23.040 But this is the point we getting it to all 0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:23.840 the legalities. 0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:26.800 Kyle has filed an injunction on his best friend. 0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:29.160 I was trying to get his draft picks taken away. 0:30:29.600 --> 0:30:32.240 Actually, I've got a text message I said I would 0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:33.320 like to file. 0:30:33.120 --> 0:30:35.720 A former formal complaint. I was like, and I would 0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:36.640 have gotten away with it too. 0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:38.240 And your friends say, I'll take that up with the GM. 0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:39.600 Where you take. 0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:43.280 He says nah? 0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:46.640 He says nah, they all down vote Shut up, Kyle. 0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:50.320 All right, let's get into the defensive preview here for 0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:54.000 the Cowboys. Defense taking on the Arizona Cardinals offense. We 0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:56.920 talked a lot about the Cardinals defense and how they 0:30:56.920 --> 0:30:59.680 are going to combat Dak Prescott and company in yesterday's show, 0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:01.880 so if you haven't already, go check it out. But 0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:06.160 of course, Arizona doesn't really know what's going on on 0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:08.560 the offensive side of things except for one guy, and 0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:10.040 his name is Trey McBride. 0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:11.560 He's had an incredible year. 0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:14.280 He is taking steps forward from the tight end position, 0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:18.280 one of the leading threats at the tight end position 0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:21.560 through the NFL. With what quarterback though, But that's the point. 0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:23.840 Kyler Murray has been out the last couple of weeks. 0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:27.560 Jacoby Brissette has been playing pretty good football as the 0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:32.240 backup there. Kyler is questionable going into this matchup. I 0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:34.440 think Arizona believes he's playing. 0:31:34.560 --> 0:31:35.040 He's playing. 0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:37.040 It looks like he is going to play SAT and 0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:38.200 T Stadium's exactly. 0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:40.640 He is nine and oh all time at AT and 0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:41.840 T Stadium. 0:31:41.360 --> 0:31:44.560 Which includes high school, YEP, college. 0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:45.520 Five and oh in high school. 0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:47.120 I don't like those words. 0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:48.719 At Allen High School five and oh. 0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:51.440 He won three state championships at Allen High School, then 0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:53.160 he went one to OH at Texas A and M 0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:56.200 one and oh at Oklahoma, and then he's two and 0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:58.640 oh with the Arizona Cardinals to make his nine and 0:31:58.720 --> 0:31:59.240 oh record. 0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:01.640 At least he has never embarrassed us on Monday night football, right. 0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:03.840 Oh yeah, that that that already happened. 0:32:03.960 --> 0:32:07.160 Oh, so you're saying that Kyler Murray is undefeated in 0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:10.040 the building, he's playing back at home, his job is 0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:14.000 at risk of being lost, and he's playing on the 0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:16.920 only night, the only game on Monday night football where 0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:17.560 the whole world is. 0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:19.400 Watching and call of duty's not out yet. 0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:23.960 So and against uh, one of the worst defenses. 0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:26.080 In the NFL. Yeah, I think he's one of you 0:32:26.080 --> 0:32:26.560 think he's. 0:32:26.440 --> 0:32:29.440 Inting there being nice? Why the worst? 0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:31.360 Just stay with your chest. 0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:33.280 It's not Friday yet, buddy. 0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:35.000 The facts of the facts, they are the worst. 0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:37.600 Where y Bright likes better at quarterback? 0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:43.640 That's good questions, probably Jacoby, honestly, Yeah, that's definitely Jacoby. 0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:44.040 You think so? 0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:47.640 I know so based upon the stats, twenty one games 0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:51.400 with Kyler Murray three touchdowns? Was it three games with 0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:53.520 Jacoby Brissett three touchdowns? 0:32:53.640 --> 0:32:58.440 Oh? Very ansterwout That is the math more math thing. 0:32:59.360 --> 0:33:02.640 Two games I fault twenty one games with Murray three 0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:06.120 nine yard average, three touchdowns, sixty seven yards per game. 0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:09.960 Brissette two games, twelve yards or mean twelve twelve catches 0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:11.920 a game, nine. 0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:15.600 Twelve targets a game. 0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:18.720 I fault nine receptions, seventy three receiving. 0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:19.360 Yards, three touchdowns. 0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:23.320 So what you're saying is more yards, more attempts, more catches, 0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:26.400 more catches, same amount of touchdowns in two games versus 0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:29.240 twenty one games. So the way twenty one trade McBride 0:33:29.720 --> 0:33:30.720 is to play Kyla Murror. 0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:33.560 He's a right, that was that was on the rundown, 0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:34.960 that was going to stop trading. 0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:39.000 Everybody. 0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:44.120 Packetty, that'll do it in our finale episode if you 0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:45.800 could do it's a favorite coach can and that would 0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:46.160 be great. 0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:49.360 Yeah no, But on a serious note, who would. 0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:52.520 Dallas want to see a quarterback Jacoby Brissett more of 0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:55.400 a pocket passer, solidified player. 0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:59.959 I'm serious, I'm serious. It doesn't matter. 0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:02.240 Or here's why it doesn't matter, because you don't want 0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:05.920 to see Kyler Murray's little video game self running all 0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:09.400 over the field, extending plays, moving the chains, et cetera. 0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:13.880 Because you can't keep containing. But at the same maybe 0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:17.400 trade for an interest. But if if it's Jacoby Brissett 0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:20.040 more of a pocket guy, well the problem with that 0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:23.799 is you have a secondary that's struggling to cover primarily 0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:25.880 because they're being asked to do something that they're not 0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:28.560 comfortable doing, which is zone coverage. And we talked about 0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:32.160 this earlier this week, Isaiah, you bought the feature for 0:34:33.000 --> 0:34:36.040 from Josh that the Cowboys would break the fifty percent 0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:36.959 mark on Man. 0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:39.000 They moved in the wrong direction. So now you just 0:34:39.040 --> 0:34:40.160 you just don't know what you're going to get. 0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:41.840 So you have to assume that it's going to be 0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:45.680 another zone heavy situation. And so Jacoby Brissett, he's a veteran, 0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:47.279 a lot of skins on the wall. 0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:49.320 He knows how to read zone coverage. 0:34:49.360 --> 0:34:51.680 The Cowboys rather see Uncle Rico play quarterback. 0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:56.520 No, I don't know Uncle Rico mountains. Yeah that's true. 0:34:56.560 --> 0:34:59.640 What if the Cowboys need give up plays? All right? 0:34:59.680 --> 0:35:02.920 So he don't Marico would give the day or Napoleon 0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:03.919 when he threw the pork chop. 0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:07.560 I mean, you know, I think it's I. 0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:11.960 Think diagnosing this defense for Jacobe percent would be a 0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:15.239 lot easier than Kyle Kyler Murray the offense doesn't look 0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:17.680 as crisp with Kyler Murray in the backfield. But granted, 0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:19.600 it's that dual threat that's going to give you problems 0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:21.640 either way. I don't think you like either matchup for 0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:24.680 the Dallas defense because, again, like we've talked about many 0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:27.440 times this whole week, basically, the Dallas Cowboys are the 0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:29.239 worst defense in the NFL. You don't want to see 0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:31.000 either of them. So give me Kyler Murray. 0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:32.080 Yeah, give me Kyler Murray. 0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:35.120 Take Kyler yeah, because their their past concepts are completely different. 0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:37.799 When Kyler Murray's any game, doue too. Yeah, it's just 0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:40.960 basic stuff. I mean, they do bootleg freaking all the time. 0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:42.000 They bootleg boot leg. 0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:43.560 Because they want him out of the pocket. Wan him 0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:46.000 out of the pocket, yeat. So getting him out of 0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:46.440 the pocket. 0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:48.600 Now, obviously he's a threat to run, so you have 0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:50.800 to have But that's one of the things that Cowboys 0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:53.400 linebackers actually do well. They run right, They run, They 0:35:53.440 --> 0:35:56.120 can run, they can hit, So you can have guys 0:35:56.160 --> 0:35:57.960 that can match him. I don't want to say match him, 0:35:57.960 --> 0:36:01.040 but at least keep up with him athletically. And the 0:36:01.080 --> 0:36:04.600 concepts are pretty predictable. They're relatively predictable. Once he gets 0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:06.160 out of the pocket and you start talking about boot leg, 0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:08.479 there's only so many different routes that you can run. 0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:09.759 As long as we have good communication. 0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:12.560 And then they, yeah, you can pass it off, but 0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:16.120 do you No, Yeah, it's tough for it. 0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:17.720 I figured out just lebron. 0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:21.799 Therefore, is it tough for a defense to have both 0:36:22.160 --> 0:36:25.600 quarterbacks on their mind going into a matchup when they 0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:28.799 haven't had the best success whenever it comes to preparation 0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:31.319 in the early parts of the week. You get an 0:36:31.320 --> 0:36:34.359 extra day going into Monday night football. But they're having 0:36:34.440 --> 0:36:37.560 the plan for both Jacoby Brissette and for Kyle. 0:36:37.440 --> 0:36:38.479 They feel the same way we feel. 0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:41.000 I think they have a good inkling that that Kyder 0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:44.359 Murray's most likely probably And again, if you have if 0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:46.880 Jacoby Brissette was going to sit back in a bubble 0:36:46.960 --> 0:36:49.880 and you guys are obviously not happy with the pass rush, 0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:52.440 then I would much rather have a Kyler Murray that 0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:54.160 likes to get out the pocket, where he's out the 0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:58.640 bubble and now I have opportunity to go get him. 0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:03.840 I just I just don't feel like that's a good bubble. 0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:08.240 Pup bubble Buddy SpongeBob reference. 0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:13.200 I just I feel like you have to prepare for both, 0:37:13.320 --> 0:37:16.120 and I feel like as a veteran defensive coordinator in 0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:18.960 the NFL, you should be well versed in doing so, 0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:21.000 because on any given week you're going to run up 0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:23.279 against the situation where you know it might be an 0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:26.480 injury and you just don't know which quarterback is going 0:37:26.520 --> 0:37:28.719 to start. So this this won't be your first time 0:37:28.800 --> 0:37:31.200 having to prep for two quarterbacks. And then, like you said, Kyle, 0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:33.560 great point, you have an added day to do that, 0:37:33.680 --> 0:37:37.319 so there is no excuse to be unprepared regardless of 0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:41.000 which quarterback is back there. Now, being prepared is one 0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:46.359 thing check hopefully, So what that preparation looks like, as 0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:48.440 far as what scheme you're going to call, what does 0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:51.440 that preparation look like? As far as translating to execution 0:37:51.640 --> 0:37:54.759 or lack the rug, communication or lack the rug, That's 0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:59.000 where for me, I've seen so many instances of things 0:37:59.040 --> 0:38:02.560 falling apart in those latter two categories for the Cowboys defense, 0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:07.520 that be it Jacoby Brissett, Orkler Murray. You're equally in 0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:11.880 trouble because of injuries, because of schematic issues, because of 0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:17.399 communication issues, because of execution issues and because of effort issues. So, 0:38:18.360 --> 0:38:20.480 like you said, be Uncle Rico back there. You're in 0:38:20.480 --> 0:38:23.359 trouble until you're not in trouble with this defense. You're 0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:24.760 in trouble until you show me otherwise. 0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:26.360 All Right, we got to take our second break. We 0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:28.080 ran long in the first segment. We want to give 0:38:28.160 --> 0:38:31.040 enough time for lab code here on this Thursday of 0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:32.160 talking Cowboys. 0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:33.799 Pat's already giving us the t's eight. 0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:35.719 We've got it coming up when we come back with 0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:37.000 more talking right after. 0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:42.080 This, Like, g how's it going. 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The best part of his Thursday is a 0:41:39.040 --> 0:41:40.080 little bit of lapat. 0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:44.839 Hey, what's up? Blarry brings in Yes, science all right. 0:41:45.840 --> 0:41:50.080 So Stephen Jones, Oh my friend, so one of five 0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:52.440 three the fan, as Stephen Jones earlier this week, if 0:41:52.440 --> 0:41:54.759 he still believes this Cowboys team at three four and 0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:59.359 one with the worst defense in the league could still 0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:03.160 be a playoff team with the worst the worst. Oh yeah. 0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:06.080 I don't have a problem with optimism. 0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:10.320 I have a problem with speaking in definites when definites 0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:14.520 are not, you know, in play Okay, so Stephen Jones, 0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:17.960 you know, he said absolutely again, I don't have a 0:42:17.960 --> 0:42:20.640 problem with the optimism. I don't have a problem with 0:42:21.120 --> 0:42:24.200 the context. He's using the painted but absolutely just doesn't 0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:27.080 work for me. Definition of absolutely, folks, And I'm pulling 0:42:27.120 --> 0:42:32.160 this right from the gullet of Webster themselves. Absolute with 0:42:32.239 --> 0:42:40.920 no qualification, restriction or limitation totally. Okay, So with no equivocation, totally, 0:42:40.920 --> 0:42:43.920 This Dallas Cowboys team can be a playoff team this season. 0:42:44.239 --> 0:42:45.239 Here's my problem with that. 0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:47.480 At three four and one, let's just look at the numbers, 0:42:48.080 --> 0:42:51.839 you have only a fourteen four, twenty four percent chance 0:42:52.160 --> 0:42:54.799 I'm making the playoffs. Twenty four percent chance of making 0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:55.560 the playoffs at. 0:42:55.440 --> 0:42:56.879 Three forourm one doesn't seem very good. 0:42:56.920 --> 0:42:58.399 Doesn't seem very good. Not good. 0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:02.239 There's a greater than three fourths chance that you will 0:43:02.280 --> 0:43:05.600 miss the playoffs. As we have this conversation at the 0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:09.400 time of that question being answered, should the Cowboys lose 0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:12.680 to the Cardinals on Monday night, they will drop to 0:43:12.680 --> 0:43:15.200 three five and one, and their odds will fall off 0:43:15.200 --> 0:43:17.600 a cliff and it will go from twenty four percent 0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:19.479 to only fifteen percent chance. 0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:21.359 Roberts, that is not good. 0:43:21.640 --> 0:43:25.760 Now, Now your next question is might be well, no, see, 0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:28.839 if they defeat the Cardinals, that's got to be good. 0:43:28.880 --> 0:43:29.520 Of course, it's good. 0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:32.080 Wins are always good getting back to five hundred, giving 0:43:32.120 --> 0:43:34.360 yourself a chance and a division that outside of the 0:43:34.400 --> 0:43:35.879 Eagles is still trying to figure yourself out. 0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:37.120 That's that's great, that's good. 0:43:37.719 --> 0:43:40.520 It's also true, though, that it will only improve your 0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:45.080 chances of making the playoffs by three percent. So you'd 0:43:45.120 --> 0:43:47.320 go from twenty four percent chance of not making the 0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:50.160 playoffs to twenty seven percent chance of not making the 0:43:50.160 --> 0:43:52.880 playoffs should you beat the Cardinals. So will there be 0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:55.160 ground gained, Yes, if you beat the Cardinals. But I 0:43:55.200 --> 0:43:57.600 say all of that to say, you are in such 0:43:57.640 --> 0:44:01.160 a bad way right now. You have so much work 0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:06.120 to do to become consistently competitive, and you also need 0:44:06.239 --> 0:44:09.840 other teams to start to figure out ways to lose games. 0:44:10.080 --> 0:44:11.840 You need both of those things to happen for you 0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:16.080 to begin to have even a remotely solid chance of 0:44:16.160 --> 0:44:20.680 making the playoffs. So again, I appreciate optimism, and I 0:44:20.719 --> 0:44:23.080 appreciate all of the context, as far as who's coming 0:44:23.120 --> 0:44:25.560 back help us on the way, tomorrove On and Savonne, 0:44:25.560 --> 0:44:27.400 we'll see what he can be, etcetera, etcetera. But the 0:44:27.440 --> 0:44:30.520 fact is you are so far from absolutely right now 0:44:31.320 --> 0:44:34.279 that you should not allow that optimism to blind you 0:44:34.320 --> 0:44:36.920 to things like, well, maybe we shouldn't make a trade 0:44:37.040 --> 0:44:39.160 because we have a guy like Perry on Winfrey coming 0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:41.080 back who has not played a game for the Cowboys 0:44:41.120 --> 0:44:43.359 yet in the regular season. That's my point, and that's 0:44:43.360 --> 0:44:45.319 my concern, is that when you start saying things like 0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:49.160 we absolutely can be now, I'm afraid that you're letting 0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:50.440 that do this for you. 0:44:50.800 --> 0:44:53.399 Maybe he knows something you don't know. He absolutely does. 0:44:53.440 --> 0:44:56.279 He works upstairs, upstairs, upstairs that we work upstairs, but 0:44:56.280 --> 0:45:00.840 he works upstairs. Maybe he's in content outside of Maybe 0:45:00.880 --> 0:45:03.880 the front office will always know more than what we know, 0:45:03.960 --> 0:45:05.760 even though we do the diggny to try to figure 0:45:05.800 --> 0:45:08.920 out what they know. Diggler, my point being regardless of 0:45:08.960 --> 0:45:11.880 what he knows, even if they make a blockbuster trade, 0:45:12.080 --> 0:45:14.520 Even if they make a blockbuster trade, it doesn't change 0:45:14.520 --> 0:45:18.600 the fact that defeating the Cardinals only improves your playoff 0:45:18.640 --> 0:45:21.840 chances by three percent to twenty seven percent overall. 0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:24.720 Losing to the Cardinals. 0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:27.640 Drops because you play them before, drops your trade deadline 0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:29.319 drops to only fifteen percent chance. 0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:31.440 Now you saying this is do or die, Patrick Nils. 0:45:31.520 --> 0:45:32.400 I'm saying this is due. 0:45:32.640 --> 0:45:34.279 I'm not gonna say it'sdu or die, but I'm saying 0:45:34.280 --> 0:45:37.640 it's due. Or you might as well just order your 0:45:37.640 --> 0:45:38.360 casket lining. 0:45:38.480 --> 0:45:40.279 Oh I'm gonna put that on the T shirt do 0:45:40.719 --> 0:45:41.720 or might as well. 0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:44.239 Or order your casket lining like what is that velvet? Like? 0:45:45.600 --> 0:45:46.600 That's what I'm saying. 0:45:46.640 --> 0:45:49.200 So you absolutely have to win this game in every 0:45:49.200 --> 0:45:52.279 game going forward, but even in doing so, you ever 0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:55.880 so far from it. Mostly that's interesting. In addition to 0:45:56.640 --> 0:45:58.960 other teams have to start falling ap hard. 0:45:59.280 --> 0:46:01.680 So you said the fifth you said, there's fifteen percent 0:46:01.719 --> 0:46:02.600 chance if they lose. 0:46:02.400 --> 0:46:05.840 To the Cardinals, plus th percent chance of making the playoffs. 0:46:05.840 --> 0:46:08.520 Defeat the Cardinals, you have a twenty seven percent chance 0:46:08.520 --> 0:46:09.440 of making the playoffs. 0:46:09.480 --> 0:46:10.680 But either one of those zero. 0:46:12.080 --> 0:46:15.960 So there is I hear no bell team. Absolutely, Is 0:46:16.000 --> 0:46:18.680 this team eliminated from the playoffs? Absolutely not. 0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:21.319 If you tie? That is how you use absolutely what 0:46:21.400 --> 0:46:25.359 if you tie? I don't like time, I don't like. 0:46:27.080 --> 0:46:28.920 I ain't here no bell, I ain't hear no Bell. 0:46:29.120 --> 0:46:31.040 Yeah, optimism ran supreme. 0:46:31.120 --> 0:46:33.440 But so you're right though, So flipping it to the 0:46:33.480 --> 0:46:35.000 other side of the point. If you want to use 0:46:35.120 --> 0:46:37.719 if you want to speak in definities and unequivocations. Then 0:46:37.719 --> 0:46:41.520 you could say absolutely the Cowboys still have a chance 0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:46.799 of making the playoffs, but you cannot, you cannot reasonably 0:46:47.280 --> 0:46:51.160 say the Cowboys are absolutely still a playoff team right now. 0:46:51.200 --> 0:46:57.480 They are far from that. Make the trades plural. 0:46:58.200 --> 0:47:00.799 That's how you solve that whole debate segment is just 0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:03.400 go get yourself an elite just over and get yourself 0:47:03.400 --> 0:47:05.640 an elite defensive tackle, and then we're all just so 0:47:07.000 --> 0:47:07.919 if we get them both. 0:47:08.000 --> 0:47:08.440 That about it. 0:47:08.880 --> 0:47:11.560 First of all, shouts out, shout out to Melvin because 0:47:11.600 --> 0:47:13.600 even though he's being cheeky, which is what Melvin does, 0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:16.880 what do you know about weird science? What do you 0:47:16.920 --> 0:47:20.279 know about the classic legendary cinema? Oh my god, that 0:47:20.440 --> 0:47:22.439 is weird science. I know what you said, Oh my god, 0:47:22.480 --> 0:47:24.359 oh my god, because that ushured a lot of young 0:47:24.400 --> 0:47:26.799 men to adulthood. 0:47:27.280 --> 0:47:32.279 Back to you, cow Yeah, thanks guys, that's gonna do 0:47:32.320 --> 0:47:35.319 it for us, your talking Cowboys. 0:47:36.040 --> 0:47:38.560 Thanks for Jordan Against Thursday. 0:47:38.320 --> 0:47:40.279 Public Access tomorrow. 0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:42.400 Tomorrow. 0:47:42.480 --> 0:47:45.239 It is say it with you Chest Friday, as we've 0:47:45.239 --> 0:47:48.120 already done throughout the week. 0:47:48.200 --> 0:47:49.520 But hope you'll join us nine a m. 0:47:49.880 --> 0:47:53.520 Central time for Patrick Nosey Walker Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah stand 0:47:53.560 --> 0:47:55.760 back Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yeomans saying 0:47:55.840 --> 0:47:58.160 so long from Talking Cowboys, We'll see you tomorrow. 0:47:58.800 --> 0:48:01.759 This has been a production of dallascowboys dot Com and 0:48:01.960 --> 0:48:04.880 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.