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Speaker 1: Whole cast, all of it.

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Speaker 2: Patrick Nosey, Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah stand back, Chris Beam

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Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yeomans. You guys go ahead and spin around.

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Speaker 3: If you Chris Beam was in the back, he is definitely.

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Speaker 7: Incredible. Sources Okay, Chris Beam is in the back.

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Speaker 2: If if you have never joined Talking Cowboy, Welcome, Welcome.

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Speaker 3: First off, you're in for a wild one.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to every day, every day, but specifically today, We're

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Speaker 2: already off to a hot start, yeah, and uh.

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Speaker 7: And guess what you ain't goin nowhere.

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Speaker 2: You gotta know if you also know if you ever

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Speaker 2: had a question on whether or not we enjoy working

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Speaker 2: of each other. That hasn't happened yet. No, no, we don't.

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Speaker 2: We enjoy it a little crazy. Seven minutes before the show,

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Speaker 2: I think I've laughed more in those seven minutes than

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Speaker 7: We need we need a little bit of that. We

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Speaker 7: need a little lightness on top of all the darkness we.

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Speaker 4: See every I like the way you put that hate

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Speaker 2: Welcome into Talking Cowboys. Everybody, it is a Thursday. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna have lab code in the third segment, So Patrick

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Speaker 1: Going to drop some science.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, what are we talking about today in lab coat?

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Speaker 1: Listen?

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Speaker 7: The Cowboys?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we are talking about the castles.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's good. It ain't at least we're on topic.

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Speaker 1: It ain't pretty smash smash, which is we talk about.

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Speaker 4: Stephen Jones said earlier this week when he was asked

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Speaker 4: on One three Fan if the Cowboys are still a

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Speaker 4: playoff team. He still views the Cowboys of the playoff team,

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Speaker 4: and he said absolutely that absolutely has stuck in my

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Speaker 4: crawl ever since my craw not in the crawl in

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Speaker 4: my Where is that located? It's a family show, curious

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Speaker 4: at least sometimes never heard of it. Yeah, it's well, okay,

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Speaker 4: you're not from the South. I'm not from you're not

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Speaker 4: from the South?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, northwest South.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, something sticking in your craw is absolutely a Southern phrase.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's a thing. So we'll we'll talk about

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Speaker 1: that because absolutely.

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Speaker 7: Use in Washington, is it like grinding your throwing in

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Speaker 7: the side buttering.

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Speaker 2: They were just grinding my gears with that whole thing.

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Speaker 4: Is probably gonna okay, yeah, same, Okay, it irked me.

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Speaker 4: Stuck in the crawl.

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Speaker 1: Little residue.

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Speaker 2: Is patrick when you talk about Stephen Jones saying that's

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So let's just say we'll talk about how absolutely

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Speaker 4: shouldn't have a subjective definition based on who's answering the question.

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Speaker 4: Yeah it is the cow Are the Cowboys a playoff team?

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about that nice coming up in segment three,

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Speaker 2: We're gonna of course preview the Dallas defense going up

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Speaker 2: against the Arizona Cardinals offense.

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Speaker 1: In the second segment, I did the Lord's work the

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Speaker 1: other day, did I did? What is that? It was

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday when I was on Good Morning Football.

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Speaker 4: They were talking there talking, no, no, listen, I represent

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Speaker 4: our people, Okay. They were asking about Cinderella teams. They

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Speaker 4: said Cinderella teams. I said, I don't like the term Cinderella,

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Speaker 4: but they're pretty much saying like teams that you have

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Speaker 1: The start exactly. And I went to bat for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: I went to bat for the Cowboys, and I said

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Speaker 4: that the Cowboys get into which play because I truly

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Speaker 1: That's what I said. Did they get in with eight

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Speaker 1: So what will you giants? Oh? Seven, well, eleven.

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Speaker 4: Eleven, twenty eleven, So you think there they could be

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Speaker 1: Yes, That's when I walked away with jewelry.

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Speaker 1: That's why you have the date, Bernie. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The only part of me that disagrees. We've talked about

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Speaker 2: this before. This team is not as far off as

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Speaker 1: I mean, you don't know, it's less than that. How

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's next Tuesday, tuesdays.

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Speaker 2: So with all that being said, they're not too far off,

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Speaker 2: but with the schedule that they have in front of them,

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Speaker 2: it is not easy.

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Speaker 4: You know what, it was worse before the season started.

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Speaker 4: What was worse the schedule was worse the team.

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Speaker 7: I mean that's always yeah, you mean, because that's the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you've already.

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Speaker 2: Lost to the Broncos and I hear the Panthers. I

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Speaker 7: don't know Washington. I don't know even the Chiefs to

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Speaker 7: some extent, Brandon, they're kind of back on track.

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Speaker 2: Chargers are better than what you thought they were going

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Speaker 3: The Raiders probably aren't.

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Speaker 2: That you anticipated that being a win, and they're not

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Speaker 7: I mean, it has a lot to say.

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Speaker 1: He had.

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Speaker 4: Whatever he wants to say with the whole line is, yeah,

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Speaker 4: no matter what I think, and what really.

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Speaker 1: I think, I think eight wins. I truly think eight

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Speaker 7: I don't think that's out of the Roman possiblity at all.

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Speaker 7: I think that's fair.

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Speaker 4: What that gets you in and eight eight and one

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Speaker 4: commanders stumbling it, it might might very well. But what's

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Speaker 4: And I believe you can't survive Philly because you almost

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Speaker 4: He's going to be a Philly Kansas City who looks

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Speaker 4: We already know Herbert is playing. He's playing like he's playing.

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Speaker 3: I think you need six.

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Speaker 4: I'm giving five. Fine, I'm giving I mean who I

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Speaker 4: I think you Minnesota. I think you win that one

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Speaker 3: You got a shot to win all of those games.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, that's what I think. Eight and one. I think

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Speaker 1: you split with Washington. I do too. You've already won one,

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Speaker 1: so that means and that means you know, I don't.

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Speaker 1: So here's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: I said, you split with Washington because at that point,

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Speaker 4: if it even if it plays out to what you're saying,

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Speaker 4: that means that Week seventeen game might be deciding between

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Speaker 4: they've lost their rather not getting Doran's back for the year. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: the year Eler's gone. I think Scary Terry is hindered.

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Speaker 4: They don't, So I just think that their compen defense, but.

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Speaker 7: At least not to throw water on the conversation or anything.

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Speaker 7: But I think that goes to the point that you're

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Speaker 7: going to make in Science Lab too. It's like this,

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Speaker 7: I'm thinking of the playoff team.

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Speaker 4: get in the playoffs, but it should not. It should not,

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Speaker 4: but it has it is okay, real quick with the position.

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Speaker 4: We'll have one more show, two more shows before the trade.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Three.

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Speaker 2: Actually, Tuesday's going to be basically a trade deadline preview for.

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Speaker 4: Sure, positional need and then they'll wait until our show

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Speaker 4: is over to make a move one position.

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Speaker 1: If you were to make a move one position right now.

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Speaker 7: Defensive tackle, edge rusher, edge rush, edge edge tackle tackle.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, you think that you're going defensive line either way.

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Speaker 4: You think the edge is going to make a big difference. Yes,

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Speaker 4: nobody's given up their premier defensive edge rusher.

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Speaker 1: Not yet.

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Speaker 3: And I wouldn't be willing to give up the given

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't be willing to give the compensation where they

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Speaker 7: wouldn't be willing to give up the composition that you have.

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Speaker 1: To agree is fair.

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Speaker 7: I'd be willing to give up the compensation for to.

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Speaker 4: Get a sack tier because you're gonna get a second

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Speaker 4: tier right defensive airG DRC. If you get one, you're

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Speaker 4: gonna get a second tier edge rusher. You're not gonna

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Speaker 4: get the premiere.

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Speaker 1: I think I can agree with it, and you're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to overpay it.

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Speaker 4: Don't think about premiere. You think about Crosby Hutchinson, Micah Garrett.

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Speaker 1: There's not disrespect, it just is what it is. There's

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Speaker 4: You would be getting a second tier edge rusher, and

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Speaker 4: Nobody's giving up an elite pass rusher. Probably they're signing them.

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Speaker 1: Somebody would give up a premier detackle.

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Speaker 7: I also feel like linebackers in their process as well.

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Speaker 7: To get solidify one, to be mid.

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Speaker 4: At a couple of spots you're mid and right. If

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Speaker 1: I can negate what you're doing.

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Speaker 7: I don't improves linebacker play as well.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, the linebackers that you have would be the benefactors

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Speaker 1: And I like that.

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Speaker 7: I like the point that you're making, though, is that

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Speaker 4: So let me paint this this this context for you,

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree.

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Speaker 3: Everything you're saying.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but let me and this is Kyle's gonna love

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Speaker 3: I completely disagree, I say, and that rarely happens.

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Speaker 1: Here happens.

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Speaker 4: Here's why I don't believe they will trade for defensive

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Speaker 1: Who returned to practice yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Okay, now you can have the conversation all the live

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Speaker 4: So I agree that it may not be enough, and

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Speaker 1: That's my stance.

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Speaker 4: However, let's flip to the to the front office, this

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Speaker 4: and Sally. I'm telling you that's what they're going to

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Speaker 4: tell them. I understand what you're saying. I would love

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Speaker 4: to be incorrect, but I'm telling you, based on covering

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Speaker 4: Not that I agree, but that's what out side of

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Speaker 1: Push him to the side. Okay, who's behind Clark? Name

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Speaker 7: Switching at.

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Speaker 3: I don't, So you're going to go. I'm still I'm

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Speaker 4: You're a dominant detail, not not a good one, not

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Speaker 4: let's go to the outside and where your linebackers go.

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Speaker 1: We can run a hit. There's no question about that.

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Speaker 4: Does anybody have any questions about our current linebackers ability

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Speaker 4: you automatically get better. You automatically get better. You're running defense,

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Speaker 4: Your run rush defense gets substantially better. Your your ability

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Speaker 1: Increases by changing one one position.

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Speaker 4: If you get a defensive end, yes, you could can

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Speaker 4: Every other position is still the same. Your rush defense

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Speaker 4: still didn't improve. Your linebackers are still having the same

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Speaker 4: This the safety position needs help because their communication has

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Speaker 4: been pepula pew. But in terms of impacting the front

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Speaker 1: Want him, now here you go.

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Speaker 4: And I'm going to throw this to caut How many

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Speaker 1: Nobody's giving That's the thing.

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Speaker 4: Nobody know what I'm saying, Like, it's possible to still

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Speaker 1: You just named most of them, and Garrett Crosby, And.

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Speaker 4: Are any of those teams give up their guys? Absolutely not.

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Speaker 3: So we said we all agree with Las Vegas may

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Speaker 1: We all agree. We all agree of them are great.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we all agree that they are not giving You're

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Speaker 1: You're not. So do you believe that for the right price.

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Speaker 4: I think for the right price, what Dallas is willing

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Speaker 4: anybody's guys gonna require if you want to get a

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Speaker 4: dominant defensive end. You're talking about you're in a conversation

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Speaker 7: But we don't know what Dallas is willing to give.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm sacking.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what they are willing to do.

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Speaker 2: And if one of the player, if there's a of

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Speaker 2: an elite level at Edge Rusher, I think it will

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Speaker 3: It is possible that that that you.

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Speaker 1: Know what, I don't disagree. Everything is possible.

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Speaker 4: However, the probability of any of these teams giving up

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Speaker 1: Just went through it. Sure, Michael, you just had just had.

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Speaker 2: He's the nature of the position. Mass rushers are premier

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Speaker 7: That's why I want That's why you which is fine.

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Speaker 3: I get it. Suring shoring up.

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Speaker 2: What you've got on the inside of that interior defensive

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Speaker 3: You need help everywhere else you do. And you already

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Speaker 3: if you would.

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Speaker 2: Argue out of defensive tackle, ed rusher, linebacker, corner, safety,

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Speaker 1: Even more reason to get a dominant guy. You can

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Speaker 7: But the second Kenny Clark is out, what are you do?

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Speaker 3: He's not out, He was almost out, He was almost.

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Speaker 4: But this guy was gonna fall At that point, they're

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Speaker 3: You can say that with anything.

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Speaker 2: You could say, oh, what happens whenever, but Dak Press

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Speaker 3: What happens when Jake fred out.

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Speaker 2: You can have that same conversation with you, but can

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Speaker 2: you Disagree's have seven defensive tackles that can play football

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Speaker 4: You have one, you have one that you got three,

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Speaker 4: you have one. You have one that discourages the opposing

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: One, let me ask you. Let me ask you is

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Speaker 1: Quarterback?

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Speaker 4: Okay, so if you harass, terrorize, and take down the quarterback,

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Speaker 1: Though you can scheme.

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Speaker 7: I don't know you can sack a quarterback five times

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Speaker 1: There's a handful of guys there.

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Those guys are premiere, like

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Speaker 4: there's not you can literally discourage teams from running the

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Speaker 1: They're going to drop back and past.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, then they're gonna throw it all under in terms

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Speaker 3: of they'ren.

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Speaker 1: You have to make one move.

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Speaker 3: This is my question.

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Speaker 4: If you had to make one move, that one move

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Speaker 1: Not even a little bit. It gives a little bit teams.

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Speaker 3: Teams have all day to throw the football.

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Speaker 1: And then what if ax is in the pocket.

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Speaker 2: What if we talked about with these mobile quarterbacks, when

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Speaker 2: they get outside the pocket, how does that affect your

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Speaker 2: secondary contain? How do they get outside the pocket. I'm

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Speaker 2: not arguing you're not fixed. I'm not arguing that you're

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Speaker 2: that you don't have other issues. We understand that.

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying is if you had to make

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Speaker 4: one move, what move is going to be the most

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Speaker 4: impactful for your entire defense. But here's here's where Kyle

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Speaker 4: and I correct me from. Here's where Kyle and I

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Speaker 4: stand in relation to your Yeah, you went and got

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Speaker 4: a pass rusher, right as it stands, safety, safety, cornerback, linebacker,

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Speaker 4: defensive end, defensive tackle.

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Speaker 1: Of those groups.

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Speaker 4: The team, the group that has had the strongest showing

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Speaker 4: for the most part of the season is defensive tackle.

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Speaker 1: You're saying, throw more at that.

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Speaker 4: And ignore the glaring issue at one of the weakest

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Speaker 4: points of your attack, which is defensive end, which also

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Speaker 4: rather you agree or not, it's true as it also

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Speaker 4: helps impact what happens on the back end because if

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Speaker 4: you're pressuring these quarterbacks and you're knocking them off the

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Speaker 4: spot and you're keeping contained.

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Speaker 1: That helps keep them in the pocket.

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Speaker 4: Guess what now, Your defensive tackles, when they penetrate, they

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Speaker 4: can get to them. Windows get shortened on the back end,

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Speaker 4: But when they break, when they break contain, linebackers get stressed,

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Speaker 4: cornerbacks get stressed. Secondary safeties can stressed and then chunk

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Speaker 4: plays explosive downfields.

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Speaker 1: So I'm right there with out right here.

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Speaker 4: So let me give you a different perspective from from

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Speaker 4: a quarterbacks perspective. I can promise you I was less

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Speaker 4: concerned about dns than I was about detackles because you

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Speaker 4: can move completely more. All of them can move absolutely.

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Speaker 4: But guess what I'm telling you. If you have two

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Speaker 4: dominant defensive linement, how many offensive linemen are required to

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Speaker 4: block them?

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Speaker 3: Probably two, three to four, three, three to four.

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Speaker 1: So now now your defensive ends now have what you

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Speaker 1: single up right one on one matchups. Correct.

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Speaker 3: I don't disagree.

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Speaker 1: That's how football. We're not disagreeing, Isaiah, but you're disagreement.

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Speaker 4: Yes, you're saying not even an impactful on an upgrade upgrade.

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Speaker 4: Le's talk about your egos. Okay, where do you not

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Speaker 4: want to go up the middle? However, do they have

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Speaker 4: a dominant pass rusher right now? But do they have

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Speaker 4: pass rushes who can impact the game? Do the Cowboys

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Speaker 4: have pass rushers who can impact the game? And I'm

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Speaker 4: not talking about easy Eagles. He's progressing, But for the

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Speaker 4: most part, at least the Eagles have who edge rushers

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Speaker 4: that are serviceable at least.

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Speaker 7: I think getting you a defensive tackle and shuring up

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Speaker 7: that spot makes those pass rushers.

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Speaker 1: Better better, and you could argue, you can.

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Speaker 7: Argue on both sides.

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Speaker 4: You can argue on most sass rusher can impact positively

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Speaker 4: the defensive tax.

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Speaker 1: But you're not going to get an elite one.

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Speaker 3: Here's here's just not an upgrade you need anything.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 3: Your your best defensive tackle right now, tell you it's.

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Speaker 1: Less impactful than a de tackle. I'm just telling you.

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Speaker 2: Your best defensive tackles right now are Kenny Clark and Osaz.

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Speaker 2: That's a good one to two punch on the inside

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Speaker 2: of your defensive line. Good When you look outside, you've

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Speaker 2: got a growing Donovan Azeraki and you have James Houston

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Speaker 2: who have made the most impact at your edge rusher spot.

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Speaker 2: Nothing against those two guys, but you can upgrade at

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Speaker 2: that position. When you go get a dominant defensive tackle.

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Speaker 2: All that's doing is taking one or two of Osa

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Speaker 2: or Kenny off the field, and then it's just I

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Speaker 2: get it. Are you gonna play three defensive tackles? Do

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Speaker 2: you consider Osa to be a true one technique? No,

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Speaker 2: he's a three takes three alays. Can he play five?

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Speaker 2: Probably not? Absolutely, he can't.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: He hasn't done a whole lot of that. Here's my thing.

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Speaker 2: I don't disagree with you that they can be better

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Speaker 2: at stopping the run. And I don't disagree with you

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Speaker 2: that having another dominant defensive tackle can help your linebackers.

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Speaker 3: All of that is factual, all of that can be happening.

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Speaker 2: But I think when you have your main problem right

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Speaker 2: now as quarterbacks having time to throw picking apart your

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Speaker 2: secondary and a secondary that is stretched so thin at

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Speaker 2: safety and at cornerback, that anything you can do to

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Speaker 2: take time off their plate you're gonna do.

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Speaker 1: So.

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Speaker 2: Stopping the run has always been secondary in this defense,

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Speaker 2: and still they do that better than they do with

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Speaker 2: stopping the pass, right, And that's why I want to pass.

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Speaker 1: That's what we are in real quick.

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Speaker 3: I don't disagree with anything you're saying.

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Speaker 1: You want to be mid everywhere. No, here's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I want to be serviceable on defense, which is the

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Speaker 2: whole point there.

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Speaker 1: It does no ball, You're right, we agree, Isaia knows ball.

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Speaker 3: Not disagreeing with what I say.

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Speaker 4: But for the gentleman in the chat that's saying what

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Speaker 4: Kyle and noci are missing is that the losses are

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Speaker 4: predicated to pun the Cowboys run defense. Okay, we're not

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Speaker 4: missing that. What we're saying is the Cowboys made a

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Speaker 4: trade for a three time pro bowler.

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, so, and.

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Speaker 3: They paid eighty million dollars to their three.

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Speaker 4: Technique exactly so in their mind, and before week five,

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Speaker 4: I'll say the run defense showed it could do some things.

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Speaker 4: Before week five and going through now you have how

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Speaker 4: many instances of the past rush impacting the game positively?

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Speaker 1: Maybe one one New York. That's all you got.

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Speaker 4: So we're not we're not missing the point of the

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Speaker 4: run defense needs to be what it is. We're saying,

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Speaker 4: you are so deficient an impact on the edges versus

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Speaker 4: your ability to impact the middle of the defense, that

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Speaker 4: you have to.

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Speaker 1: Attack the weakest point when you're adding talent. That's all

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Speaker 1: we're saying.

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Speaker 4: We're not saying the world beaters that were stopping the run,

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Speaker 4: we're saying they can't change the game. All we have

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Speaker 4: different approaches. If I was a general manager, I want

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Speaker 4: to be dominant somewhere. I don't want to I don't

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Speaker 4: want to be I want to be in in a

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Speaker 4: couple of places. I want to be dominant somewhere where

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Speaker 4: are you dominant? I want to be dominant in the middle.

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Speaker 4: Take away something that they do. I don't want them

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Speaker 4: to have the ability to feel comfortable and confident doing

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Speaker 4: everything because I have one guy who may or may

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Speaker 4: not get to the quarter.

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Speaker 1: But you're at a seventies disagreeing that.

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Speaker 4: Our point being kyling out, our point being you can

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Speaker 4: be dominant in the middle.

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Speaker 1: Wonderful. That's wonderful. Would love that, Love that.

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Speaker 4: But the quarterback having time to throw, being able to

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Speaker 4: break contain to stress your linebackers and your secondary that's oh,

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Speaker 4: by the way, suffering so many injuries. They don't know

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Speaker 4: what to do with themselves.

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Speaker 1: Why would you cool?

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Speaker 4: You can stop the run and then Russell Wilson is

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Speaker 4: going to come in and throw for five hundred.

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Speaker 1: Y'all.

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Speaker 4: What Josh and I are saying is your guys that

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Speaker 4: you have that you don't feel comfortable and competent with

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Speaker 4: right now become serviceable when you are able to dominate

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Speaker 4: in one area. We're saying, if you have to make

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Speaker 4: one change, that make the biggest ripple effect.

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Speaker 1: De tackle does that.

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Speaker 4: It makes your defensive ends have one on one matchups

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Speaker 4: allows or your linebackers are running hit everybody.

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Speaker 1: That whole front seven gets better.

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Speaker 2: As a whole, as I just said, and we do

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Speaker 2: have to go to break. As I just said, I

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Speaker 2: think you've already gotten solid defensive tackle play and it

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Speaker 3: That's that's the point from me, solid dominant correct?

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Speaker 1: Solid? Are you even remote? Solid on the even remotely? Not?

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Speaker 2: yesterday because he meddled in a trade I was trying

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Speaker 2: to make on my foot.

667
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Speaker 1: Dynasty League got mad at you.

668
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 3: Sounds super villain. I'm telling you I was legitimate.

669
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Speaker 2: Yes, he's trying to be Adam schefter for our league

670
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Speaker 2: and also try and be a GM in our league.

671
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Speaker 3: And it's a conflict of interest where he knows what a.

672
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 7: Conflict of interest in the use of fantasy football is insane.

673
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 4: But this is the point we getting it to all

674
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 4: the legalities.

675
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 7: Kyle has filed an injunction on his best friend.

676
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 3: I was trying to get his draft picks taken away.

677
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 2: Actually, I've got a text message I said I would

678
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Speaker 2: like to file.

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00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: A former formal complaint. I was like, and I would

680
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: have gotten away with it too.

681
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Speaker 7: And your friends say, I'll take that up with the GM.

682
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: Where you take.

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00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 7: He says nah?

684
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Speaker 3: He says nah, they all down vote Shut up, Kyle.

685
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Speaker 2: All right, let's get into the defensive preview here for

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys. Defense taking on the Arizona Cardinals offense. We

687
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 2: talked a lot about the Cardinals defense and how they

688
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 2: are going to combat Dak Prescott and company in yesterday's show,

689
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Speaker 2: so if you haven't already, go check it out. But

690
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 2: of course, Arizona doesn't really know what's going on on

691
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Speaker 2: the offensive side of things except for one guy, and

692
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Speaker 2: his name is Trey McBride.

693
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Speaker 3: He's had an incredible year.

694
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Speaker 2: He is taking steps forward from the tight end position,

695
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 2: one of the leading threats at the tight end position

696
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 2: through the NFL. With what quarterback though, But that's the point.

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Speaker 2: Kyler Murray has been out the last couple of weeks.

698
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: Jacoby Brissette has been playing pretty good football as the

699
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 2: backup there. Kyler is questionable going into this matchup. I

700
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Speaker 2: think Arizona believes he's playing.

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Speaker 1: He's playing.

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00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 2: It looks like he is going to play SAT and

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Speaker 2: T Stadium's exactly.

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Speaker 3: He is nine and oh all time at AT and

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Speaker 3: T Stadium.

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Speaker 7: Which includes high school, YEP, college.

707
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Speaker 3: Five and oh in high school.

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Speaker 7: I don't like those words.

709
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Speaker 3: At Allen High School five and oh.

710
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Speaker 2: He won three state championships at Allen High School, then

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Speaker 2: he went one to OH at Texas A and M

712
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 2: one and oh at Oklahoma, and then he's two and

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Speaker 2: oh with the Arizona Cardinals to make his nine and

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Speaker 2: oh record.

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Speaker 7: At least he has never embarrassed us on Monday night football, right.

716
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that that that already happened.

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Speaker 4: Oh, so you're saying that Kyler Murray is undefeated in

718
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 4: the building, he's playing back at home, his job is

719
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Speaker 4: at risk of being lost, and he's playing on the

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Speaker 4: only night, the only game on Monday night football where

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Speaker 4: the whole world is.

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Speaker 3: Watching and call of duty's not out yet.

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Speaker 7: So and against uh, one of the worst defenses.

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Speaker 1: In the NFL. Yeah, I think he's one of you

725
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Speaker 1: think he's.

726
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Speaker 7: Inting there being nice? Why the worst?

727
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Speaker 1: Just stay with your chest.

728
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Speaker 7: It's not Friday yet, buddy.

729
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: The facts of the facts, they are the worst.

730
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Speaker 3: Where y Bright likes better at quarterback?

731
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Speaker 4: That's good questions, probably Jacoby, honestly, Yeah, that's definitely Jacoby.

732
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Speaker 1: You think so?

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Speaker 4: I know so based upon the stats, twenty one games

734
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Speaker 4: with Kyler Murray three touchdowns? Was it three games with

735
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 4: Jacoby Brissett three touchdowns?

736
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Speaker 1: Oh? Very ansterwout That is the math more math thing.

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Speaker 4: Two games I fault twenty one games with Murray three

738
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 4: nine yard average, three touchdowns, sixty seven yards per game.

739
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 4: Brissette two games, twelve yards or mean twelve twelve catches

740
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 4: a game, nine.

741
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Speaker 1: Twelve targets a game.

742
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 4: I fault nine receptions, seventy three receiving.

743
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Speaker 1: Yards, three touchdowns.

744
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 4: So what you're saying is more yards, more attempts, more catches,

745
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 4: more catches, same amount of touchdowns in two games versus

746
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Speaker 4: twenty one games. So the way twenty one trade McBride

747
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 4: is to play Kyla Murror.

748
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Speaker 3: He's a right, that was that was on the rundown,

749
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 3: that was going to stop trading.

750
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Speaker 1: Everybody.

751
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Speaker 2: Packetty, that'll do it in our finale episode if you

752
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Speaker 2: could do it's a favorite coach can and that would

753
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Speaker 2: be great.

754
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 3: Yeah no, But on a serious note, who would.

755
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 2: Dallas want to see a quarterback Jacoby Brissett more of

756
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: a pocket passer, solidified player.

757
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,959
Speaker 1: I'm serious, I'm serious. It doesn't matter.

758
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 4: Or here's why it doesn't matter, because you don't want

759
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 4: to see Kyler Murray's little video game self running all

760
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 4: over the field, extending plays, moving the chains, et cetera.

761
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 4: Because you can't keep containing. But at the same maybe

762
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 4: trade for an interest. But if if it's Jacoby Brissett

763
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 4: more of a pocket guy, well the problem with that

764
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 4: is you have a secondary that's struggling to cover primarily

765
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 4: because they're being asked to do something that they're not

766
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 4: comfortable doing, which is zone coverage. And we talked about

767
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 4: this earlier this week, Isaiah, you bought the feature for

768
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 4: from Josh that the Cowboys would break the fifty percent

769
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:36,959
Speaker 4: mark on Man.

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Speaker 1: They moved in the wrong direction. So now you just

771
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: you just don't know what you're going to get.

772
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 4: So you have to assume that it's going to be

773
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 4: another zone heavy situation. And so Jacoby Brissett, he's a veteran,

774
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 4: a lot of skins on the wall.

775
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 1: He knows how to read zone coverage.

776
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 7: The Cowboys rather see Uncle Rico play quarterback.

777
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: No, I don't know Uncle Rico mountains. Yeah that's true.

778
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: What if the Cowboys need give up plays? All right?

779
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 4: So he don't Marico would give the day or Napoleon

780
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:03,919
Speaker 4: when he threw the pork chop.

781
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I think it's I.

782
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 7: Think diagnosing this defense for Jacobe percent would be a

783
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 7: lot easier than Kyle Kyler Murray the offense doesn't look

784
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 7: as crisp with Kyler Murray in the backfield. But granted,

785
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 7: it's that dual threat that's going to give you problems

786
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 7: either way. I don't think you like either matchup for

787
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 7: the Dallas defense because, again, like we've talked about many

788
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 7: times this whole week, basically, the Dallas Cowboys are the

789
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 7: worst defense in the NFL. You don't want to see

790
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 7: either of them. So give me Kyler Murray.

791
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, give me Kyler Murray.

792
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 4: Take Kyler yeah, because their their past concepts are completely different.

793
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 4: When Kyler Murray's any game, doue too. Yeah, it's just

794
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 4: basic stuff. I mean, they do bootleg freaking all the time.

795
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 4: They bootleg boot leg.

796
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: Because they want him out of the pocket. Wan him

797
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: out of the pocket, yeat. So getting him out of

798
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: the pocket.

799
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 4: Now, obviously he's a threat to run, so you have

800
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 4: to have But that's one of the things that Cowboys

801
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 4: linebackers actually do well. They run right, They run, They

802
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 4: can run, they can hit, So you can have guys

803
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 4: that can match him. I don't want to say match him,

804
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 4: but at least keep up with him athletically. And the

805
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 4: concepts are pretty predictable. They're relatively predictable. Once he gets

806
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 4: out of the pocket and you start talking about boot leg,

807
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,479
Speaker 4: there's only so many different routes that you can run.

808
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 7: As long as we have good communication.

809
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 4: And then they, yeah, you can pass it off, but

810
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 4: do you No, Yeah, it's tough for it.

811
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:17,720
Speaker 1: I figured out just lebron.

812
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 2: Therefore, is it tough for a defense to have both

813
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 2: quarterbacks on their mind going into a matchup when they

814
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 2: haven't had the best success whenever it comes to preparation

815
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 2: in the early parts of the week. You get an

816
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 2: extra day going into Monday night football. But they're having

817
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 2: the plan for both Jacoby Brissette and for Kyle.

818
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:38,479
Speaker 1: They feel the same way we feel.

819
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 4: I think they have a good inkling that that Kyder

820
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 4: Murray's most likely probably And again, if you have if

821
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 4: Jacoby Brissette was going to sit back in a bubble

822
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 4: and you guys are obviously not happy with the pass rush,

823
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 4: then I would much rather have a Kyler Murray that

824
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 4: likes to get out the pocket, where he's out the

825
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 4: bubble and now I have opportunity to go get him.

826
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 4: I just I just don't feel like that's a good bubble.

827
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 1: Pup bubble Buddy SpongeBob reference.

828
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 4: I just I feel like you have to prepare for both,

829
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 4: and I feel like as a veteran defensive coordinator in

830
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 4: the NFL, you should be well versed in doing so,

831
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 4: because on any given week you're going to run up

832
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 4: against the situation where you know it might be an

833
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 4: injury and you just don't know which quarterback is going

834
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 4: to start. So this this won't be your first time

835
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 4: having to prep for two quarterbacks. And then, like you said, Kyle,

836
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 4: great point, you have an added day to do that,

837
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 4: so there is no excuse to be unprepared regardless of

838
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 4: which quarterback is back there. Now, being prepared is one

839
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 4: thing check hopefully, So what that preparation looks like, as

840
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 4: far as what scheme you're going to call, what does

841
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 4: that preparation look like? As far as translating to execution

842
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 4: or lack the rug, communication or lack the rug, That's

843
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 4: where for me, I've seen so many instances of things

844
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 4: falling apart in those latter two categories for the Cowboys defense,

845
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 4: that be it Jacoby Brissett, Orkler Murray. You're equally in

846
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 4: trouble because of injuries, because of schematic issues, because of

847
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 4: communication issues, because of execution issues and because of effort issues. So,

848
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 4: like you said, be Uncle Rico back there. You're in

849
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 4: trouble until you're not in trouble with this defense. You're

850
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 4: in trouble until you show me otherwise.

851
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 2: All Right, we got to take our second break. We

852
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 2: ran long in the first segment. We want to give

853
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 2: enough time for lab code here on this Thursday of

854
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 2: talking Cowboys.

855
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 3: Pat's already giving us the t's eight.

856
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 2: We've got it coming up when we come back with

857
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 2: more talking right after.

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Speaker 1: This, Like, g how's it going. You see that Cowboys game? Oh?

859
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 1: I watched.

860
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 4: I've been seeing some good things totally. They have some talent.

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Speaker 4: You have some great talent, and they got some fight

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00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 4: hoping this is the year me too. Oh I'm Cody.

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00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 4: By the way, I'm Travis. Nice to meet you.

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Speaker 1: Travis. Go Cowboys Go.

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, it is all right.

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Speaker 3: Larry said. The best part of his Thursday is a

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Speaker 3: little bit of lapat.

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Speaker 1: Hey, what's up? Blarry brings in Yes, science all right.

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Speaker 4: So Stephen Jones, Oh my friend, so one of five

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Speaker 4: three the fan, as Stephen Jones earlier this week, if

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Speaker 4: he still believes this Cowboys team at three four and

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Speaker 4: one with the worst defense in the league could still

939
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Speaker 4: be a playoff team with the worst the worst. Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with optimism.

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Speaker 4: I have a problem with speaking in definites when definites

942
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Speaker 4: are not, you know, in play Okay, so Stephen Jones,

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Speaker 4: you know, he said absolutely again, I don't have a

944
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Speaker 4: problem with the optimism. I don't have a problem with

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Speaker 4: the context. He's using the painted but absolutely just doesn't

946
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Speaker 4: work for me. Definition of absolutely, folks, And I'm pulling

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Speaker 4: this right from the gullet of Webster themselves. Absolute with

948
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Speaker 4: no qualification, restriction or limitation totally. Okay, So with no equivocation, totally,

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Speaker 4: This Dallas Cowboys team can be a playoff team this season.

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Speaker 1: Here's my problem with that.

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Speaker 4: At three four and one, let's just look at the numbers,

952
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Speaker 4: you have only a fourteen four, twenty four percent chance

953
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Speaker 4: I'm making the playoffs. Twenty four percent chance of making

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Speaker 4: the playoffs at.

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Speaker 7: Three forourm one doesn't seem very good.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't seem very good. Not good.

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00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 4: There's a greater than three fourths chance that you will

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Speaker 4: miss the playoffs. As we have this conversation at the

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Speaker 4: time of that question being answered, should the Cowboys lose

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Speaker 4: to the Cardinals on Monday night, they will drop to

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Speaker 4: three five and one, and their odds will fall off

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Speaker 4: a cliff and it will go from twenty four percent

963
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Speaker 4: to only fifteen percent chance.

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Speaker 7: Roberts, that is not good.

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Speaker 4: Now, Now your next question is might be well, no, see,

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Speaker 4: if they defeat the Cardinals, that's got to be good.

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Speaker 1: Of course, it's good.

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Speaker 4: Wins are always good getting back to five hundred, giving

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00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 4: yourself a chance and a division that outside of the

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Speaker 4: Eagles is still trying to figure yourself out.

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Speaker 1: That's that's great, that's good.

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Speaker 4: It's also true, though, that it will only improve your

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Speaker 4: chances of making the playoffs by three percent. So you'd

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Speaker 4: go from twenty four percent chance of not making the

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Speaker 4: playoffs to twenty seven percent chance of not making the

976
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Speaker 4: playoffs should you beat the Cardinals. So will there be

977
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Speaker 4: ground gained, Yes, if you beat the Cardinals. But I

978
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 4: say all of that to say, you are in such

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Speaker 4: a bad way right now. You have so much work

980
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 4: to do to become consistently competitive, and you also need

981
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Speaker 4: other teams to start to figure out ways to lose games.

982
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Speaker 4: You need both of those things to happen for you

983
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Speaker 4: to begin to have even a remotely solid chance of

984
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Speaker 4: making the playoffs. So again, I appreciate optimism, and I

985
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Speaker 4: appreciate all of the context, as far as who's coming

986
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Speaker 4: back help us on the way, tomorrove On and Savonne,

987
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 4: we'll see what he can be, etcetera, etcetera. But the

988
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Speaker 4: fact is you are so far from absolutely right now

989
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 4: that you should not allow that optimism to blind you

990
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Speaker 4: to things like, well, maybe we shouldn't make a trade

991
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Speaker 4: because we have a guy like Perry on Winfrey coming

992
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 4: back who has not played a game for the Cowboys

993
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Speaker 4: yet in the regular season. That's my point, and that's

994
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Speaker 4: my concern, is that when you start saying things like

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Speaker 4: we absolutely can be now, I'm afraid that you're letting

996
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 4: that do this for you.

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00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 1: Maybe he knows something you don't know. He absolutely does.

998
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Speaker 4: He works upstairs, upstairs, upstairs that we work upstairs, but

999
00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 4: he works upstairs. Maybe he's in content outside of Maybe

1000
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Speaker 4: the front office will always know more than what we know,

1001
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Speaker 4: even though we do the diggny to try to figure

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Speaker 4: out what they know. Diggler, my point being regardless of

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Speaker 4: what he knows, even if they make a blockbuster trade,

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Speaker 4: Even if they make a blockbuster trade, it doesn't change

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Speaker 4: the fact that defeating the Cardinals only improves your playoff

1006
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 4: chances by three percent to twenty seven percent overall.

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Speaker 1: Losing to the Cardinals.

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Speaker 4: Drops because you play them before, drops your trade deadline

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Speaker 4: drops to only fifteen percent chance.

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Speaker 7: Now you saying this is do or die, Patrick Nils.

1011
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Speaker 1: I'm saying this is due.

1012
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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say it'sdu or die, but I'm saying

1013
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Speaker 4: it's due. Or you might as well just order your

1014
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Speaker 4: casket lining.

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Speaker 3: Oh I'm gonna put that on the T shirt do

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Speaker 3: or might as well.

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Speaker 1: Or order your casket lining like what is that velvet? Like?

1018
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: So you absolutely have to win this game in every

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Speaker 4: game going forward, but even in doing so, you ever

1021
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 4: so far from it. Mostly that's interesting. In addition to

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00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 4: other teams have to start falling ap hard.

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Speaker 3: So you said the fifth you said, there's fifteen percent

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Speaker 3: chance if they lose.

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Speaker 4: To the Cardinals, plus th percent chance of making the playoffs.

1026
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Speaker 4: Defeat the Cardinals, you have a twenty seven percent chance

1027
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Speaker 4: of making the playoffs.

1028
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Speaker 1: But either one of those zero.

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Speaker 4: So there is I hear no bell team. Absolutely, Is

1030
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 4: this team eliminated from the playoffs? Absolutely not.

1031
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 1: If you tie? That is how you use absolutely what

1032
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 1: if you tie? I don't like time, I don't like.

1033
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Speaker 7: I ain't here no bell, I ain't hear no Bell.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, optimism ran supreme.

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Speaker 4: But so you're right though, So flipping it to the

1036
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Speaker 4: other side of the point. If you want to use

1037
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Speaker 4: if you want to speak in definities and unequivocations. Then

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Speaker 4: you could say absolutely the Cowboys still have a chance

1039
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Speaker 4: of making the playoffs, but you cannot, you cannot reasonably

1040
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 4: say the Cowboys are absolutely still a playoff team right now.

1041
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: They are far from that. Make the trades plural.

1042
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 2: That's how you solve that whole debate segment is just

1043
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 2: go get yourself an elite just over and get yourself

1044
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Speaker 2: an elite defensive tackle, and then we're all just so

1045
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Speaker 2: if we get them both.

1046
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Speaker 1: That about it.

1047
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Speaker 4: First of all, shouts out, shout out to Melvin because

1048
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Speaker 4: even though he's being cheeky, which is what Melvin does,

1049
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Speaker 4: what do you know about weird science? What do you

1050
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Speaker 4: know about the classic legendary cinema? Oh my god, that

1051
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Speaker 4: is weird science. I know what you said, Oh my god,

1052
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Speaker 4: oh my god, because that ushured a lot of young

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Speaker 4: men to adulthood.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, cow Yeah, thanks guys, that's gonna do

1055
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Speaker 2: it for us, your talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for Jordan Against Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Public Access tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: It is say it with you Chest Friday, as we've

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Speaker 2: already done throughout the week.

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Speaker 2: so long from Talking Cowboys, We'll see you tomorrow.

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