1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, it's me Josh and for this week's s 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: Y s K Selex, I've chosen How Cremation Works. It 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: came out back in August of two thousand and ten, 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: and at the time, death was a very hot topic. 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: So please forgive us if we seem a little irreverent, 6 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: a little overenthusiastic when we're talking about this. But it's 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: a really interesting episode and I still stand by it today. 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: I hope you enjoy. Welcome to Stuff you Should Know 9 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: from House Stuff Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to 10 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W. Chuckers Bryant 11 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: with a full beard. Actually, yeah, do you know what 12 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: that would smell like if it caught fire? It would 13 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: smell like mayonnaise. It's It's smell worse than Mandaid's ever did. 14 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: Jerry's in there like she doesn't like the smell. Burning 15 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: here or manx um burning Manis would be particularly bad 16 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: if you had hair on top of the burning. Harry 17 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: Manse the worst thing you can burn, So Chuck, hopefully 18 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: that will never happen while you're alive. It could possibly 19 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: happen um after you're deceased. If you're cremated like a 20 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 1: fellow named Ralph White. Who you know about? I've never 21 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: heard of the guy you have to chuck. Do you 22 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: remember that horrid webcast we used to have. There's a 23 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: guy he was the president past president of the Adventurers 24 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: Adventurers Club and not to be confused with the one 25 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: from South Park. This guy, Um was a real life 26 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: adventure and he was I think he was like a 27 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: cameraman for UM a skydiving show called rip Chord National Geographic. 28 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: He was there when they discovered the Titanic. Ye Buddies 29 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: with the Jim Cameron, Yeah he was. He was second 30 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: director I think on Titanic. Yeah, who was Jim Cameron 31 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: was also in that club, the little Club in l A. 32 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, I'll bet Ralph White got Jim Camer 33 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: run in probably And are we calling him Jim now? 34 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: I didn't realize we were on that friendly basis Jim 35 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: or Jimmy. Well, anyway, Ralph White was had a pretty 36 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: cool post not post mortem. He had a very cool 37 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: posthumous story, and that was he was cremated and his 38 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: friends were so dedicated and loyal to him that um, 39 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: whenever they go on to travel. Now, they take about 40 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: a tenth about a teaspoon or a tenth of a 41 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: teaspoon some very small amount of Ralph White's cremated remains 42 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: and scatter him wherever they go. Pretty cool. Yeah, I 43 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: think he's in the whaling wall in Jerusalem. Um, he's 44 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: in Lake Bacall. He went on a space flight. And 45 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: Ralph White's posthumous adventures kind of illustrate all the wonderful 46 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: things you can do with a cremated body, which is 47 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: one of the reasons why people choose to be cremated. 48 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: It's highly portable, right, and it's nothing new, Chuck. Cremation 49 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: has been going on for a very long time, hasn't it. Yeah, 50 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: we won't get into I mean, there's we could rattle 51 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: off every country and when they started, but we really 52 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: could because of this fine, fine article written by a freelancer, right, 53 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 1: Michelle Kim. I've never heard of this person before, but 54 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: was a really great article. Um, but it has been 55 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: around since prehistoric times. China has been doing it since 56 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: eight thousand BC. That's more than ten thousand years ago. 57 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: More than ten thousand years ago. One part of the 58 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: history I did find interesting though and fitting since we did. 59 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: Our Freemason cast was the Freemasons during the French Revolution 60 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: kind of push for cremation because it was the whole 61 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: not anti religion, but just sort of mixing it up 62 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: with religion. No, they were anti Catholic Church, well, very 63 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: much against the Church, and they were saying, if you 64 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: have yourself cremated, it's kind of like sticking your thumb 65 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: up the because well because Catholic said you can't get 66 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: cremated for a long time. Yeah, well it kind of 67 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: contradicts the whole resurrection thing. Yeah, you know, like the 68 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: body's kind of gotta be intact. It's like the one 69 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: thing we can't do. You know. We can rise from 70 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: the dead, but if your bird sorry, yeah, and you 71 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: you don't want to come back and find that you're 72 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: nothing but ashes, because you're going to be ticked off, 73 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: right right. Uh. The actual creamator, the cremation chamber, which 74 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: I like to call the cremator, even though it's not. 75 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: It sounds like a crib star product from the Adventures 76 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: of Pete and Pete it does. It was invented in 77 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: the late eighteen hundreds by Professor Brunetti and Uh. It 78 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: started in earnest in the United States in Pennsylvania in 79 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: eighteen seventy six, when Pennsylvania is an non licensed state, still, 80 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: which I thought was interesting. Is it really Well, there's 81 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: a little bit of a scandal that we'll talk about 82 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: later that. Um. Apparently, the the crematory business, you either 83 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: have fine upstanding people or like come of the earth, yeah, 84 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: running these places. Right, Yeah, let's talk about how this works, 85 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: all right, Yeah, Well I got a step for you 86 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: real quick though. As far as it's popularity, Um, in 87 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: ninety three point six percent of bodies were cremated, and 88 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: just a few years ago that numbers at thirty and 89 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: they expected to be half. Right. Well, there's a lot 90 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: of a lot of reasons why, right, I mean, we're 91 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,559 Speaker 1: running out of land. Um. There's a lot of people 92 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: who think that burials aren't so green, which is true. Yeah, 93 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: um yeah, because they use like, you know, really nice 94 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: woods and metals, and you have to pour cement lining 95 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: the bodies, embalms, so it's going to eventually leak out 96 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: all of those things. Right. We'll talk later about whether 97 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: or not cremations green and the spoilers it's not sort 98 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: of is, but it's not well it's not green, but 99 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: it's definitely not green. It's not brown either, it's not black. 100 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: It's somewhere between. So chuckers, you're ready to talk. Yeah, Like, 101 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: just the actual process is pretty gruesome. Um. Initially they 102 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: store the body in a cool room just to keep 103 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: it nice and fresh for the cremation. Um. It's usually 104 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: examined by a coroner and they have to like sign 105 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: off and say this is good to go, because you 106 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: can't exhume the body later on if you need to. 107 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: So no accidental death that hasn't been fully vetted, like 108 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: I imagine, they wouldn't cremate like someone that was had 109 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: any kind of relation to a crime or anything like that, 110 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: at least not for a long time. Uh. And then 111 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 1: what happens is they remove some things from your body. 112 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: If you have the following pacemaker, breast implants, silicon breast implants, prothesis, 113 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: or cancer seeds, the little radioactive seeds that they inject 114 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: into a tumor and then shoot with like a laser 115 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,679 Speaker 1: or a radio frequency generator. Yeah, none of this stuff 116 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: is good for for cremation, so they remove that from 117 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: your body. But there's some things that can't be removed well, 118 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: they could remove it, but they tend not to each 119 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: fillings mercury fillings, yeah, jewelry and glasses like some people want, 120 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: like you would be buried with your glasses on. They 121 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: want you cremated with your glasses. Right. But in some countries, 122 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: I didn't look this up, so I don't know what 123 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: countries there are laws against anybody who's cremating a body 124 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: from touch anything on the body, right, right, you gotta 125 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: do it how you get it right, that's what they 126 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: say on the shirt. So you can buy I think 127 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: in the gift shop. Uh. And then they put the 128 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: body once it's been removed, these things into a flammable 129 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: box like a pine or cardboard box or one made 130 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: of hairy man. They slide it into the incinerator is 131 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: already preheated, by the way, yes, to at least degrees fahrenheight, 132 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: which is five degrees celsius. I think, off the top 133 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: of my head. Um, and that's hot, chuck, it's gotta 134 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: be hot. But that's not like you don't just put 135 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: the body in and then it just burns. It just 136 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: catches fire. Right now, they actually shoot a column of 137 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: flame at the torso like a jet engine. Yeah, basically, 138 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: So once the body's in what's it called the retort, 139 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: It's called a retort. They slide it in there on 140 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: the old metal rollers and uh families. Sometimes you can 141 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: watch this process through the window if you want, and 142 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: if you're hinder you and if it's a Hindu cremation, 143 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: you can actually push go right. Yeah, I guess to 144 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: start the column of flame, right you just like so long? Yeah? 145 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: So here ant tina Hindu. Uh So the door is 146 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: sealed up obviously. Um, like you said, they aim at 147 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: your torso and then this is what happens. This is 148 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: the gruesome part um as you would expect when you 149 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: have a jet engine jet flame shot at your torso. 150 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: It ignites the container initially, obviously, your body starts to 151 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: dry out all that water that's in your body pretty quick. Yeah. 152 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: I would imagine your soft tissue tightens up, it burns up, 153 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: and it vaporizes. Your skin discolors and blisters and splits, 154 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: just like a broad worth on a grill. Yeah, exactly. 155 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: The muscle chars, it flexes, and your limbs actually can 156 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: extend like your limbs are moving. I looked all over 157 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: the place to find the discussions of about this stuff 158 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: about like a body sitting up. That's the closest thing 159 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: I saw was does a body sit up? I think 160 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: it was a wicky answer, so that it has zero credibility. 161 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: But if you're if your muscles are contracting or tightening 162 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 1: or doing anything like, yeah, your arms can go up. 163 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: And I mean imagine the people eight and eight thousand 164 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: BC in China. They're like, wait, they're not dead, They're 165 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: like yeah. At a goldfish, I tried to flush one 166 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: time and I put him in and he started swimming again, 167 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: and then I'd put him back in the tank and 168 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: he just floated. So it was just like the water 169 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: most and those well, no, I didn't flush it like 170 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: I would when I put him in the toilet. He 171 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: started moving every single time. It was weird. That is weird. 172 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: I'm pretty convinced he was dead though. Are he was 173 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: by the time I froze him in a block of ice? 174 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: You'll find out when you get to heaven. That's right. Um, 175 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: So your muscles have charred and tightened, and your limbs 176 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: are flailing about, and your bones, obviously you're the last 177 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: thing to go, and they are calcified and then kind 178 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: of just flake off and crumble into little bone bits, yeah, 179 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: and chuck. Uh. The bone that are uh or the 180 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: stuff that is left are these charred bones that are 181 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: really it doesn't take a whole lot, I think to 182 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 1: pulverize them, but it does take an extra step and 183 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: they actually do hold their shape. So you go from 184 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 1: a body in a box to like a charred skeleton 185 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: is what it ultimately comes down to. And you either 186 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: rake or sweep the remaining like bone material into something 187 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: called the cremulator clemulator, and that is the that's a 188 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: grinder that grinds up everything and pulverizes into this fine 189 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: grainy actually coarse grainy powder. Yeah. They described it as 190 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: like um ash is sort of a weird word because 191 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: it's not like like charred ash from your fire. It's 192 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: it's more like gravel, they said, like little tiny bits 193 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: of gravel because it's pulverized bone. Right, um. And it 194 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: usually takes about two to three hours, depending on the 195 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: kind of uh creamatory I guess whatever machine you put 196 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: it in. Yeah, there's different kinds, right, and how big 197 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: your bones are to that has something to do with 198 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: it too. But also um, I found that it depends 199 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: on the level of Well, there's there's something called the 200 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: um Entertech four. You should go on to Matthew's crematorium 201 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: dot com. They have specs and it's just weird because 202 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: these guys are like selling their crematorium. Uh, and here's 203 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: all the specs for him. And this thing is like 204 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: state of the art. Intertech four is um and it 205 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: burns body and no more than seventy five minutes. Really, 206 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: that's pretty good. That must have been the modern ones 207 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: that they say are all like automated. Now, well they 208 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: also sell them ones that burn the body in four hours. 209 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: So it's like low end to high end. Okay, you 210 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Pay for what you get UM. 211 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: And at the end of this whole process, you're gonna 212 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: end up with about three to nine pounds of ash. 213 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: And that's actually that's where it depends on your bones. 214 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: They say it doesn't matter like how fat you are, 215 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: because I think that burns away pretty easily. Yeah, I 216 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: would think. So it's like your bone structure. Yeah, bones 217 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: tough to burn, I guess. So, so chuck. These things. 218 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: We said that they are preheated to about degrees right, 219 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: but they get up to about two thousand. So you 220 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: can't just build this thing. You can't build an inner 221 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: tech or whatever you're building out of UM regular brick 222 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: or somement or something like that. I think it explode 223 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: the first time you tried to do this. So they 224 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: specialized composite brick material. And actually, over time the interior 225 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: will be eaten away by the heat and the expansion 226 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 1: and contraction will actually lose surface. So apparently what's recommended 227 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: is after UM the bricks lose about half of their width, 228 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: they have to be replaced. Yeah, and it sounds kind 229 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: of crude, but the way it's described in the article, 230 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: and the way I've heard it described is it's it's 231 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: sort of like a pizza oven. Yeah, they're made of 232 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: similar things. Cooka pizza, cookad body, cooka body. So these 233 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: things go for a two fifty thousand something like that. UM, 234 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: and they use natural gas or propane or um propane 235 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: accessories or diesel. I've seen UM. But they used to 236 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: burn coal, and I imagine that was a real pain 237 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: in generated body. Back in the sixties. I think they 238 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: were still using coal. Gotta keep stoking that fire. Right. 239 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: Another thing I thought was cool was UM, and I 240 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: started thinking too. When you when you burn a fire, 241 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: obviously you see ashes kind of floating all over the place, 242 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: and I thought, well, surely they've got a you know, 243 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 1: account for that when you're burning a body, and they do, 244 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: they ignite a second flame in a side chamber and 245 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: that burns off dust that's trying to escape the retort, 246 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: and some of them even shoot water at the top 247 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: to make sure none of the dust escapes out of 248 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: the top of the plume. I guess it's called wet scrubbing. 249 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: Wet scrubbing. What else do we do? Oh, that was 250 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: the a fluoride thing, right, keepscrubbing the inside of the 251 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: and carbon sequestion sequestration. Yeah, my brain is getting too 252 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: full these days. I too. We need to stop doing 253 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: the show. And after it's all done, you can actually 254 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: get remains, cremated remains. And I found that they say 255 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: that you shouldn't call them cremaines. That's what the the 256 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: c A n A says. Why they just say, it's 257 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: sort of a crude thing that people non industry people say, 258 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: let's just shorten it. And they're like, they think it's disrespected, 259 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: so we won't say the word cremains. But you can 260 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: have your cremated remains mailed to you via USPS if 261 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: you want, but that's it in the United States. Yeah, 262 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: you can't do it via FedEx or up Yes, or 263 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: you can't if they know what's in the box. Um, 264 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: and I couldn't find out why. There's no explanation on 265 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: ups IS or fedexercite. They just say you can't, we 266 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: won't ship that. They also won't ship a disinterred body. Well, 267 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: thank goodness for that, I guess. But um, the only 268 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: thing I could the only suggestion I could find why 269 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: they wouldn't do this, You can't ensure cremated remains. Oh yeah, 270 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: that's probably it, which I imagine they ensure everything somehow, 271 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: and they want to get hit with a lawsuit, right 272 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: because people get mad when you lose their Yeah. Probably so. 273 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: The other cool thing about the USPS, though, is that 274 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: they make sure to point out that it's got to 275 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: be a sift proof box. You don't want like ashes 276 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: leaking out the side, and you have to have like 277 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: somebody's got a sign for it. Right. So usually if 278 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: you don't get an urn or whatever, when when you 279 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: get your cremated remains, Um, the crematorium will have them 280 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: in like basically a plastic bag inside maybe a plastic 281 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: line box designed to hold this kind of thing, right, Yeah, 282 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: and they're maybe just like very small remnants of other 283 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: people with your remains. Like they do the best job 284 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: they can. They burn one body at a time. Um, 285 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: like you know, if you're on the up and up, 286 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: as a good cremator should be. But inevitably, when you're 287 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: talking about ash and you're sweeping it out, there might 288 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: be a little bit of Joe mixed in with Harry, 289 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: if you know what I mean. Well, I know what 290 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: you mean, so chuck it. Also, I guess the industry 291 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: standard is just like you don't want to switch babies 292 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: in the hospital at the other end of life, you 293 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: don't want to switch cremated remains of dead people. So 294 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: apparently they'll stick a tag in your mouth like a 295 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: metal disc, or they'll put it somewhere on your person 296 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: so that when you're when you're melted down, this thing 297 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: is still there so you can be identified. Um, you've 298 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: got paperwork that goes with you from the moment you 299 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: come to the crematorium of the moment you leave. That's 300 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: supposed to be with you every step of the way. Um, 301 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: and there's basically all this is supposed to avoid a 302 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:03,119 Speaker 1: mix up, right, You're supposed to It doesn't always, especially 303 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: when the crematorium operator or owner isn't on the up 304 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: and up, as you said. And there's been plenty of 305 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: examples of that, haven't there been. Yeah. I was a 306 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: little alarmed to find out how little regulation goes on 307 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,479 Speaker 1: in some states. Yeah, only until the Tri States tri 308 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: state crematorium scandal of I think two. Did Georgia close 309 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: its loopholes and now all crematoriums have to be licensed 310 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: by the state. Yeah, in Georgia. But and and I 311 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: actually got a different number here she said, twenty three 312 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: of the fifty states license, I've actually got only eight 313 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: do not license, is what I found. Oh well, that's 314 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: that's cuttering. But if you look all of these, um, 315 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: the examples in this article are in the two thousands. 316 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: So I wonder if that caused like a state expansion 317 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: and crematorium regulation reform. I would say so because if 318 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: you what happened in Georgia will tell you a sec 319 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: But if you see this on the news and you're 320 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: in like Pennsylvania, they don't want that kind of news. 321 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: Hitting their state, so I would imagine it probably spurred 322 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: some some action Pennsylvania, Bud I did. We'll talk about 323 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: the Georgia guy first, Mary Brent Marsh, Yeah, pleaded guilty 324 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: and apologized. Yeah, he he owned a CREMATORI UM in 325 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 1: Noble Georgia, and neither Chuck Nora, I know where that is, 326 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: so don't ask. UM. I think it's a probably in 327 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: the north west, because it's where Tennessee, Georgia, and Alabama 328 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: come together, which is why you call it try state crematorium. 329 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: He was serving all three states, UM, and in all 330 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: three states the bodies of the beloved deceased were basically 331 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: half buried out in the backyard because the cremator broke 332 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: down and they just never got it fixed. Yeah, the 333 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: incinerator broke and so I think three d and thirty 334 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: six bodies in total were found and UM I found 335 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: the Originally they could only charge him with accepting money 336 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: and fraud for services not rendered. Yeah, there was no 337 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: there was no law in the books. They hit him 338 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: with some other stuff though I think it must have 339 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 1: come out after this article. He was actually charged with 340 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: almost eight hundred counts of theft and abuse of a corpse, 341 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 1: so they actually charging with stealing these corpses. You don't 342 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: want to go to prison within an abuse of a 343 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: corpse wrap on your head. They'll find out about that. Yeah, 344 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,959 Speaker 1: and he was sentenced to eight thousand years in prison 345 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: and UM plea bargain that down to twelve years. Somehow 346 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: did you say eight thousand years? That was almost a 347 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 1: spit take that you were drinking your deep drink and 348 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: you almost fit it out. Uh So yeah, eight thousand 349 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: down to twelve, which is pretty good deal for him. 350 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: Um there was a thirty six million dollar settlement from 351 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: fifty eight funeral homes that sent bodies to the sky, 352 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 1: so they sued the funeral homes and then they brought 353 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: a suit, an eighty million dollar civil suits settlement against um, 354 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: this guy and his father's estate. And they probably don't 355 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: have that kind of does, so they're probably gonna do 356 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: what happens when that happens, which is you go after 357 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: the insurance company. Oh yeah, the Georgia farm. But the 358 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: guy didn't even get around to having the incinerator fixed. 359 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: He didn't have eighty millions. He's got three bodies in 360 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: his backyard. But yeah, so he's uh he's in jail 361 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: right now. As far as yeah, almost for eight thousand years. 362 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: That's a long sentence. You said Pennsylvania didn't want that 363 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: to happen. Probably it did. In two thousand five. What 364 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: happened there There was a guy who ran a crematorium 365 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: and he had a he had a deal with the 366 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: local women's hospital to cremate the remains of pre term babies, 367 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: basically aborted fetuses. This guy's job was to incinerate him. 368 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: It's probably not a fun contract to sign. No, even 369 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 1: if that's the way you make your money, you can't 370 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: feel great about like closing that deal, right, yeah, yeah, 371 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: you don't go out for a big fat steak um 372 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 1: the thor and he's I guess we're tipped off. And 373 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: they went into his garage and found in boxes the 374 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: remains of three hundred fetuses. Actually nineteen of them were 375 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: post term really, so they were born children um that 376 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: he was supposed to cremate, and he didn't. But he 377 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: could only get them on nineteen counts because they're unborn, 378 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: so he couldn't. They weren't technically human beings under the 379 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: eyes of the loss, so he didn't get anything for those. 380 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: But for the nineteen he he got in some trouble 381 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: in his body. I don't know, but he had him 382 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: in boxes in his garage to which is apparently the 383 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: m O of the shady crematorium operator. Yeah, I hope 384 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: they threw the book at him. Oh yeah, I'm sure 385 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: they did. That makes me angry. Uh can't you tell 386 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: how angry at him? Um? In Lake Elson or California, 387 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: Josh in two thousand three, a a dodgy owner was 388 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: selling body parts for medical research, like heads to people, 389 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: which means that he was cutting these heads off. Oh yeah, 390 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: and he was sentenced to twenty years in prison and 391 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: does say just say Prisson. And then in Mississippi, Uh, 392 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: there was a really nice guy named Mark Seep who 393 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: was mixing human remains together, giving out wrong ashes, dumping 394 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: them into trash bends. And he was found guilty and 395 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: put in jail to Yeah did you say that, um Marie, 396 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: Brent Marsh was giving people wood, ash and cement. I 397 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: didn't mention that, but yeah, that's what he did. Yeah, 398 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: Because I mean it's not like he was just like, 399 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: oh I got nothing and they burned up entirely. He 400 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: was like, here's some cement. And an urn. Thanks for 401 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: the money. Yeah, I understand that guys incinerator burning and 402 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: maybe not having the money to fix it, But I 403 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: bet you anything he may have made enough money to 404 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: get it fixed after that and was like, hey, I'm 405 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: kind of onto something here. We don't actually have to 406 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: do this pure profit exactly, So Chuck, before we get 407 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: into things that you can do with um, the remains 408 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: of a loved one, right, can we talk about it 409 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: whether or not it's green? I got a couple of 410 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: stats here that I think are important. Yeah. So a 411 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: lot of people are like, a natural burial or a 412 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: regular burial is not very green, and it's expensive to 413 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: between like seven and ten grand. But then they also say, 414 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to go entirely green, which 415 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: is biocremation is alkaline hydrosis. We talked about that before. 416 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: What you can do with the dead body, Remember, it 417 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: turns you into oil that's poured down the drain. That's 418 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: pretty awesome, it is. So this has to be something 419 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: in between though, right for the conscientious person who maybe 420 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: kind of believes in and afterlife, wants to do more 421 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: with this body that do you kind of believe in 422 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: afterlife it's a vague knowledg. I wonder where you end up. 423 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: You're trying to believe it's like a tick sucking like 424 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: a hot dog pack. God. So, in two thousand nine, 425 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 1: Reuters just doing this article on biocremation. They were talking 426 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: about how green is regular cremation, and it's not green 427 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 1: at all, Like you think about it. You're using tons 428 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: of natural gas, not tons, it's hyperbolic, but you're using 429 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: a lot of natural gas or diesel or whatever. You're 430 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: using a lot of electricity oowth um. So apparently it 431 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: releases a standard cremation releases about eight hundred and eighty 432 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: pounds of c O two just one body, and that's 433 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: the big enemy. And it uses enough energy to basically 434 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: power a five hundred mile road trip. Really so not 435 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: not one and the same, Like these are two separate things. 436 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: So it uses the energy to get you across country 437 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: five miles and its depending on the size of your country. 438 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: And it releases eight d eighty pounds of CEO two 439 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: into the air. I wonder what that compares to footprint 440 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: wise to standard burial. I think it's I think I 441 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: don't know, man, I think it's just an entirely different ways, 442 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: where I think maybe a natural or a regular traditional 443 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: burial is more it's more polluting, like directly polluting into 444 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: the into the ground and that kind of thing, and 445 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: it's using up resources, where um, a cremation has less 446 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: of an impact over time, but immediately it's a lot 447 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: of input. It requires a lot of input. Gotcha, that's 448 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: my concept of it, right. I wouldn't mind being burned, 449 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: but I like the um. Which country was it where 450 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: they like burn you on top of the wood by 451 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: like the banks of the river. That's India. Yeah, I 452 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: like that. That's how I would want to go. Well, buddy, 453 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: if you live in Indian and you're a Hindu, that's 454 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: exactly how you have to go. That was a perfect 455 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: seguated religion. And I guess so. Uh you said Hindu 456 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: is a mandate cremation. Yeah, they're the only only religion 457 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: that does. Yeah, and it's uh, it's called um. I'm 458 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and give it a whirl here, uh 459 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: antim sankar which is last right? Nice? You want to 460 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: hit the other one? Uh antsd Yeah? Antist I think 461 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 1: which is last sacrifice? Yeah, and that is those are 462 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: one of the sixteen life rituals. I guess it would 463 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: be the last one. Actually, I'll probably be corrected there 464 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: maybe one after that, the whole rebirth and all that. Maybe, 465 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: But though the I guess the smoke gets the body 466 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: to the next life. I bet it's one of the 467 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: last four. I bet it is a wager on that. Uh. 468 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: And they, yeah, like you said, it's their hindu So 469 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: they say, you dispose of this body and it ushers 470 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 1: you and helps you be reborn into the next life 471 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: when you're cremated. And while Hinduism is the only religion 472 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 1: that mandates you have that's how you that's how your 473 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: body is disposed of. Um. Sikhism and Jainism are both 474 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: kind of strongly adorse it, although they don't require it 475 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: right And Um, you were saying that they cremate people 476 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: in India along the banks of the river. Most of 477 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: their cremations from what I understand, our open air cremations. 478 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: I like that idea. There's a city called Varanasi, which 479 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: is apparently is the holy city to be cremated in, 480 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: and you are cremated out and open along the banks 481 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: of the Ganges. Yeah, that's nice, But they do have 482 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 1: an electric crematorium. But since there's a billion people who 483 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,239 Speaker 1: live in India and all of the one electricity this 484 00:26:55,440 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 1: place suffers power outages. Man, that's sad. If you are 485 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: a Christian, Jewish or your Muslim Josh, they generally frown 486 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: upon it because or outright prohibited, depending on which religion 487 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 1: it is. Yeah, Islam prohibits it. Yeah, They like they 488 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 1: want you buried that day, the same day you die, preferably, right. 489 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: So Um in Judaism, Chuck, I don't think it's actually restricted. 490 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: I think you can if you want to. But the 491 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 1: among Orthodox and conservative Jews, the memory of the Holocaust 492 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: sure still understandably smarts to the point where they're like, 493 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: why would you want to be cremated? This is you 494 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: know this, it's there's legacy is still around. So there's 495 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: a lot of there's a lot of Jews who don't 496 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: want to be cremated, even though their religion doesn't prohibit it, 497 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: right understandably, Um, Protestants, actually is where you're gonna be 498 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: find some more open minds to cremation. They don't, you know, 499 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: have any literature that says you should do this, but 500 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: they're definitely more understanding about it. Than other religions, right, 501 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: And we talked about the Catholic Church having a them 502 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: with it because of its association with subversiveness towards the church. 503 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: But in the sixties, the Catholic Church said, hey, we've 504 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: never really prohibited it. You can't get cremated if you want, 505 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: and apparently they gave it a boost. The Hula Burger 506 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: people really catered to the Catholics in the sixties. I 507 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: found Canada says that of Catholics are cremated now, so 508 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: that's quite a boost. I would say. Um. The Mormons also, 509 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: they're not big on cremation, although they don't prohibit it. 510 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: And in countries where um it's traditional, they're like, yeah, 511 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: please go ahead, But the Orthodox Eastern Orthodox Church says nay, 512 00:28:39,440 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: yeah yet good point. Thanks. Um, Where are we now 513 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: with some Can we talk about finally what you can 514 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: do with your remains? I think it's high time to 515 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: not what you can do with your remains, because you 516 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: clearly can't do anything. But it's not what you can 517 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: do with your remains, but what your friends and family 518 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: can do with your remains. And sometimes they like to 519 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:35,959 Speaker 1: um keep you in and urn and they have these 520 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: little cemetery like buildings called a columbarium, and they just 521 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: hold ashes from what I understand, like your urn. Yeah, 522 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: it's like a vault. So some people choose that that 523 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: cost him dough. Obviously, go ahead and tell us about 524 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: your hero. I know you want to mention that who 525 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: Hunter t Yeah, yeah, he was mixed with firework and 526 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: shot out of a cannon, a hundred and fifty three 527 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: ft cannon also called the Memorial Tower. And apparently it's 528 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: It was an organization called Heavens Above Fireworks that did this, 529 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: and every anybody can do it, and Johnny Depth paid 530 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: for the whole party, right, Yeah, And from what I 531 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: saw it was if it was this British company, he 532 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: would have paid about the equivalent of three thousand U s. 533 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: Dollars for a large fireworks display. That's what they charged. 534 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: As Susan mentioned money. Actually I did see the average 535 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: cremation cost is about six bucks. Yeah, and the average 536 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: funeral I saw five grand in this article, it's ten grand. 537 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: Decided we'll say somewhere between five and ten thousand dollars. 538 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: Let's but back to things you can do. We would 539 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: be remiss um if we didn't mention to our nerd 540 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: friends that Gene Roddenberry, the creator of Star Trek fame 541 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: was everyone knows this. He was shot into space. So 542 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: was Timothy Leary. Oh yeah, that's right by the same company, Celestis. 543 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: And they're still in business as far as I know. 544 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: I bet they are. And then you get life Jim. 545 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: If we've talked about I think again on the webcast. 546 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: You can take your cremated remains and have them compressed 547 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: into a synthetic diamond. You can have your remains mixed 548 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: into paint. And I guess that's not so much you 549 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: can have, but you can probably just do that. It depends, 550 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: like there's there's there's actually a guy who does something 551 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: called ash portraits and he does it just with the 552 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: person's ashes, but he'll also mix it in with oil 553 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: or whatever. Interesting, but he does portraits of the deceased. 554 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: I want to be remembered as dogs playing poker. That 555 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: would be pretty all. That's what I want to would 556 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: be really cool. Uh what else can you do? Um? 557 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: You can, Oh, you can become part of the coral reef. 558 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: I know there's companies that do that. There's a company 559 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: called Eternal Reefs I think is the big one. This 560 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: is pretty obvious name, don't you know. And well they 561 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: actually they make different sized reefs and what they do 562 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: is they mix your remains in with cement and like, 563 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: so the big one, it can accommodate up to four 564 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: family members. So if your family went down in a 565 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: plane and just feel like showing out for one, you know, 566 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: coral reef, right, they've got you cover. It's like seven 567 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: grand uh huh, and it's pretty big size and it's 568 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: cool looking. I mean it looks like an artificial reef. 569 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: And then you take it out and dump it overboard. Yeah, 570 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: fish live amongst your your family members. Who I really 571 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: really hope loved scuba diving exactly. Do you remember Keith 572 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: Richards a couple of years ago, he's still alive, well 573 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: now his dad passed away, and he said that he 574 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,479 Speaker 1: snorted his father with cocaine and then I mean apparently 575 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: said this interview. Then that came out and he was like, no, no, no, 576 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: no, no no, I was just kidding around. I of course 577 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: I didn't snort my father. I think he snorted his father. 578 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: I think he did too. The sounds like um episode 579 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: where this these people snort the remains of this girl yeah, 580 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: I remember that one. I do have some stats for you, though, 581 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: what people seem to like to doty percent to keep 582 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: the ashes at their home, thirty seven percent burry the ashes. 583 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: Do the scatter popular? I thought it'd be more popular 584 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: than that, though. The most popular one is water scattering 585 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: and number two is scattering somewhere on family property. Not 586 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: really three percent are put in the columbarium. And you 587 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: might notice, Josh that adds. Yeah, there's one percent that 588 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: go unclaimed. So sad. It is sad, and I apparently 589 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: that people who own crematoriums find it sad too, because 590 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: even though after a set period of time and states 591 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: that regulate this kind of stuff, which did we say 592 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: the Federal Trade Commission regulates mortuaries, there's no federal oversight 593 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: for any crematorium comes out of the state. Um but 594 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: in states where there are regulations, they still say you 595 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: can throw these out after a set period of time. 596 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: But most crematoriums, the up and up ones, will hang 597 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: onto these things for decades because again it's a small box. 598 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: But I mean they don't want to just throw it away. 599 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: It's person and it's only one percent, so I don't 600 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: imagine they're like overflowing with unclaimed remains. I would hope not. 601 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: But since you did mention the scattering, we should talk 602 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: about some of the laws about scattering, because you can't 603 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: just scatter anywhere. No, the National Park Service has no 604 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: official stance on scattering remains. They leave it up to 605 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 1: each individual park. But most of the parks say unless 606 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: there's like a grave area, like it designated grave area, 607 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 1: you can't scatter ashes here. Well, it also said they 608 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: kind of turned a blind eye, like they know it 609 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: goes on, and I'm sure some ashes in Yosemite Park 610 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: are like how are you going to tell the difference 611 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: between that and like a fire ash or dirt or whatever. Um. 612 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: But state parks they say, actually, the National Forest Service 613 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: doesn't regulate anything on their land. So that's where you 614 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,439 Speaker 1: would probably want to go, like avoid the National park 615 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: and just stay in the National Forest or go to 616 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: your state park that was a beloved state park, because 617 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: they're a little more lax than the national parks. Right. 618 00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: The if you want to do water scattering or ocean scattering, um, 619 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: the e p A says you've gotta be three miles 620 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: away from the coastline, right, very prudish. California is like, 621 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: that's way too much. Um, they still have restriction, but 622 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: it's five feet right yeah, pretty close. Um. And people 623 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: don't always follow regulations, right Yeah. So you want to 624 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: tell about the Cubs fan. Yeah, this is kind of 625 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: a nice story. Um. Steve Goodman died of lukemi in 626 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: die hard Cubbies fans sadly did not get to see 627 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 1: the Cubs winner World Series as likely neither will you 628 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: and I? Um, And four years later he his buddy 629 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 1: snuck in before opening day and threw the ashes into 630 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: the wind out over the field. Pretty cool. That is 631 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: pretty cool. Did you ever hear of Graham Parsons story? 632 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: His body was stolen? Right yeah? His friends, Um, he 633 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: said that he wanted to be cremated and scattered on 634 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 1: cap rock in Joshua Tree National Park, right. Um, and 635 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 1: his parents found out he was dead and had his 636 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: bodyship back for a private funeral, and his friends found 637 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: out that they weren't going to be invited, so they 638 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: stole him, right and uh took him out to Joshua 639 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 1: Tree and opened the casket through some gasolene on him 640 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 1: and set him on fire five gallons of gas right 641 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: and it didn't work because we've said what it takes. 642 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: So he was half cremated by the time the cops 643 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 1: showed up. He's sort of melty and just like Georgia. 644 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 1: Back then, there was nothing about There were no penalties 645 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 1: for stealing a corpse, so they got them for theft 646 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 1: of a casket. I think that was Did you see 647 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: that movie? Johnny Knoxville played the guy that his buddy. 648 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: It's not very good. I did stay in that hotel though, 649 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 1: Actually I mentioned meant to mention that in the room 650 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 1: sixty six. Yeah, the Joshua tree in cool. Not in 651 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: his room though. And before we move on from Scattering 652 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: josh we have to mention, because we like to mention 653 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: our movies. The excellent, excellent scene from The Big Lebowski, 654 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: the scattering scene in the end of the thing when 655 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: all of them just blew back all over them. But 656 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: John Coodman, it was Steve assuming that died, right, I think, 657 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: and he he threw him out in the window back 658 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: in their faces over the ocean. It was good. It's 659 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 1: very good, Uh, Chuck. If I am dead and I'm 660 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: being cremated and I'm part of of the population, what 661 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: country am I am? Uh, Sweden, Switzerland, Switzerland. I've been cremated, 662 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 1: and I am part of just a meager three percent 663 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: of the population. What country am I in? Ghana? That's right, 664 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: that's right, and in between are actually higher than that. 665 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 1: Hong Kong is places like the Czech Republic in Singapore 666 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 1: and the UK are sort of mid to high seventies. 667 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: China and the the Netherlands are about half, and Italy, as 668 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: far as European countries was I'm sorry, Ireland was six percent, 669 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 1: in Italy was seven percent. And I bet that has 670 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 1: something to do with the Catholic thing, I would think so. 671 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:58,959 Speaker 1: For sure they think the US is about thirty right, Yeah, 672 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: thanks for a large Protestant population and Hindu. And there's 673 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 1: also pet cremation. Yeah, if you if you want to 674 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,879 Speaker 1: get into a burgeoning industry that went from pretty much 675 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 1: nothing to uh it's a three billion dollar industries the 676 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 1: latest stat get into pet cremation. And the people at 677 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 1: um Matthews Crematorium supply they make pet cream cremators too. 678 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: They do humans and pets and animals too. Apparently there's 679 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 1: different types. So when you could fit a horse in 680 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,919 Speaker 1: two and one are made for like dogs or something right. 681 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: You know, I would support or I would I would 682 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: be more likely to go into one of those because 683 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: they say that some of the pet only crematoriums are 684 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: a little um dodgy. Yeah, they're totally unregulated. Yeah, so 685 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 1: they're just like burning your pets together and you don't 686 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 1: know that the ashes you get and if you're serious 687 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: enough about your pet to get your pet cremated, and 688 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: then you probably want your pets ashes, right, so you 689 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,320 Speaker 1: can handle cremation at home. Just dig a shallow hole 690 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 1: in your backyard to serve as a firebreak, and do 691 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,720 Speaker 1: your neighbor is a favor and shave your pet first 692 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,240 Speaker 1: before you set it on fire. We buried my animals 693 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: growing up, my pets, you know, we have I think 694 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 1: in my old house we probably had like four or 695 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: five pets buried out in the woods. But we lived 696 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: on like two acres in the woods. It wasn't like 697 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: in a neighborhood. You didn't set any on fire. No, no, no, no, 698 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: Well that's it for cremation. Um, thanks for joining us 699 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: for that one, right, Chuck. I think we've covered pretty 700 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: much everything in there. Um, But if you want it's 701 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,280 Speaker 1: a good, good article, high caliber. How stuff Works article, 702 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: not like the rest of these stinkers. Just typing cremation 703 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 1: in the search bar the jazzy search bar at how 704 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 1: stuff works dot com jazzy. I'm just Chinese stuff. We've 705 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: been getting lots of suggestions. By the way, I like 706 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 1: Ubiquity search bar and it's pretty good. It's not everywhere, though, 707 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it is everywhere, but it's Yeah, 708 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,320 Speaker 1: you're right, so uh, I guess it's time for listener 709 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: mil Yeah, buddy. I got a couple of today, A 710 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: couple of short ones. Um. The first one is from 711 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 1: the Sonic cast and and it's a little old, but 712 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: a promise this guy would read it. This is from 713 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: Mark in Eastern m D. I know you guys won't 714 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: read this on a podcast. Those are usually the ones 715 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: I read. But I just thought i'd write to tell 716 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,720 Speaker 1: you what happened to me this morning and my frantic 717 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,359 Speaker 1: rush to get my daughter Ellie to a summer camp 718 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 1: on time. I had to run out of the house 719 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: without having breakfast. That caused me to have to stop 720 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 1: at a fast food joint get one of those gross, 721 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 1: greasy breakfast sandwiches. You would think it's bad enough, but 722 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 1: it gets worse. As I drive from the driveway, I 723 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 1: pushed play on the iPad and start listening to the 724 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 1: Show and Saunas, where I started hearing about butt funk 725 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: Chuck's sweating out gallons of fluid and having to visualize 726 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 1: a naked Vigo Mortensen fighting in a sauna made my 727 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 1: otherwise gross sandwich and greasy potato things one for the books. 728 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,439 Speaker 1: By the way, the podcast that I queued up next 729 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 1: was all about Taste Buds, so now I know how 730 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,760 Speaker 1: I was able to taste my sandwich in the first place. 731 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, guys. That's from Mark. If you do 732 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: happen to read this on the on the air, would 733 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: you would make Ellie and Lydia's day? And those are 734 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 1: his daughters, Hey, Ellie and Lydia, So Mark, that is 735 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: for you, my friend. And then this one I didn't 736 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 1: you think about, but it's kind of fitting. Do you 737 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 1: remember when I told you about the little girl in Kent, 738 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 1: Washington who named her Beta Fish Chuckers Jr. I saw 739 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 1: this one. Chucker's Junior is no more. Monday night, I 740 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 1: put Chuckers Junior inside his small bowl so I could 741 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 1: clean his bowl in the morning. Yesterday morning, I went 742 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 1: to make my breakfast in front of his bowl as usual. 743 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: But I to make my breakfast, I thought she had 744 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 1: might make his, which would be pretty cute. I felt 745 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: something sticky on my foot and I looked down into 746 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 1: my horror. I saw Chucker's junior stuck to my foot, 747 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 1: all dried out, and that it's horrible. Apparently Beta's had 748 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: been known to jump out of their bowls, and I 749 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 1: guess Chucker's junior jump pretty far because his bowl was 750 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: a good foot away from the edge of the counter. 751 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 1: Yet he still ended up on the floor. My theory 752 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 1: is that he probably flopped around something onto the floor. Um, 753 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: can't you just let the little girl think her Beta 754 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: fish is special? Yeah, you're right, Chucker's Junior special. Katie. Also, 755 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 1: I found out that the bowl that he was in 756 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 1: had only a centimeter from the centimeter. Where is she from, Liberia? Yeah, 757 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 1: she's from Kent, Washington. Um, she said, you're usually supposed 758 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,359 Speaker 1: to leave about an inch between the top of the thing. 759 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 1: I guess to make it harder to jump out. It's 760 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,879 Speaker 1: the same thing, right, One centimeter equals one inch, I think, 761 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:32,320 Speaker 1: so she she ends with this. At least Chucker's junior 762 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 1: died a healthy fish. That's from Katie Thirt in Kent, Washington. 763 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 1: Well thanks for your optimism, Katie. Yeah, Kent. I'm sorry 764 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 1: about your breakfast sandwich, although I'm hungry now. It wasn't Kent, 765 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: it was Marked. She was from Kent. Oh. Yeah, that's 766 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,399 Speaker 1: all right though, Mark, sorry about your breakfast sandwich. Can't. 767 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 1: I have no idea who you are. 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