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Speaker 1: to talk about the New York Mets. First, the Arizona

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Speaker 1: Diamondback series that happened this past weekend. You had a

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Speaker 1: lot of games going on, three games, some wins, some losses,

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Speaker 1: a little bit of storyline here and there, but honestly,

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Speaker 1: kind of a straight forward series. The Mets one games

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Speaker 1: Twitter at Draftnickmark at Jeter had no range, James, what's

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Speaker 2: They're good, dude, long time no see only by the

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Speaker 2: day since our softball what's the way I'm looking for dismantling?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a route we got destroyed in softball this weekend. Guys,

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Speaker 1: it was a mercy. We just played. We played like

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Speaker 1: playing softball for years. It was just it was really

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Speaker 1: a David vers Goliath situation. It felt like this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not good, but hey, that's why we got the Mets.

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Speaker 1: That's why we got the Mets. Now we started off

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Speaker 2: Yeah, David Peterson being a league average pitcher. I told

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Speaker 2: So the fact that he's fully made this adjustment probably

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Speaker 2: We did just scratch one run across against him on

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm pretty confident saying Zach Gallin owns the Mets.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I respect that he's still playing major League baseball.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty impressive for a guy who is not that good. Ever,

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Speaker 2: Two thousand and seven, Friday night against the Marlins, two

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Speaker 2: Alpert Prez did have a few recently, okay years, I

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Speaker 1: Is like I laughed at that sentence if you guys

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Speaker 1: He drops it, drops it down low and comes sidearm

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Nimo Martell had two quick singles against him, and

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Speaker 1: Which is said, mean good baseball, good baseball getting runs.

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Speaker 1: world by James friggin' McCann. You see this swing. When

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Speaker 1: He crushed it fourred and fifty feet off JB. Wendle

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Speaker 2: This doesn't matter that much. He hit it against his pitching, still.

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Speaker 1: Hit it four hundred and fifty feet, absolutely crushed it,

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Speaker 1: And I was like, there is James McCann, the forty

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Speaker 1: It was huge. It was a big home run. Really

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Speaker 2: And at least it just gave us like what at

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Speaker 1: Yeah, boy, did we need it, because the bullpen got

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Speaker 2: That, And this wasn't updown the sense that he pitched

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Speaker 2: But this was still more of just like something that

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Speaker 1: Your hair shook, shook because I'm excited the Mets are

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Speaker 2: anything with it, and it's enraging.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why or how like I say this,

435
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Speaker 1: and it's not a joke. I don't think he would

436
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Speaker 1: be the best high school pitcher in the state of

437
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Speaker 1: New Jersey. He just he just has nothing. Like you said,

438
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Speaker 1: he doesn't even throw strikes. I don't know how we

439
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Speaker 1: on this team. I don't know how the Mets couldn't

440
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Speaker 1: hit him. Frustrating to see a guy who throws like

441
00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,840
Speaker 1: eighty five with no movement, just get the job done.

442
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Speaker 1: I don't know how.

443
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Speaker 2: This whole situation was made significantly worse when the lineups

444
00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,359
Speaker 2: dropped before the game and we saw that friend of

445
00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,840
Speaker 2: the Show, one of the best hitters in this Mets lineup,

446
00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,760
Speaker 2: Jeff McNeil, was somehow in some way hitting eighth.

447
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Speaker 1: It's crazy, It's absolutely nuts. There's there's no world, there's

448
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Speaker 1: no world in twenty twenty two where Robinson Cano should

449
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Speaker 1: be getting in theory more at bats than Jeff McNeil,

450
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Speaker 1: especially with how both of them have played this year.

451
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Speaker 2: Donald Smith also hit six in this game, So at

452
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Speaker 2: this point, the Mets drew up a lineup that had six, seven,

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Speaker 2: and eight hitters all left handed, a situation that did

454
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Speaker 2: come up late in this game. The Mets will get

455
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Speaker 2: to it later, but the Mets did have their ninth

456
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Speaker 2: inning do up with six, seven, eight, and it was

457
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Speaker 2: three lefties. So you're kind of inviting the other manager

458
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Speaker 2: to find an advantage over you when you're starting the

459
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Speaker 2: game with lefty, lefty, lefty at any point in your

460
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Speaker 2: batting order. So, just with being a little afraid of

461
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Speaker 2: Romberto castianos him the second time and didn feel great,

462
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Speaker 2: and then the fact that the Mets just put out

463
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Speaker 2: one of those classic Mets lin ups from I'm like, why, who,

464
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Speaker 2: why'd you put it together this way? It didn't feel

465
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Speaker 2: that good, But no, it didn't. I thought things was

466
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Speaker 2: gonna be different off the bat because Brandon Nemo did

467
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Speaker 2: what he does. He drew a nine pitch walk to

468
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Speaker 2: start the game, and I'm not even exaggerating when I

469
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Speaker 2: say that was the most difficult at bat. Umberto Castiano's

470
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Speaker 2: face the rest of the game, because there was not

471
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Speaker 2: almost nothing else happened here. In two starts now against

472
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Speaker 2: the Mets, dating back to the last week, he has

473
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Speaker 2: thrown nine innings against them. He's giving up just five hits,

474
00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,160
Speaker 2: two earned runs, and six strikeouts. Like, what the fuck?

475
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Speaker 2: How's that happened?

476
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Speaker 1: Is he the Chase Anderson boogie monster, Chase Anderson? We

477
00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,320
Speaker 1: sent him to Japan? Is Umberto Castianus the new guy?

478
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Speaker 2: We saw his guy twice in a week.

479
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Speaker 1: He saw twice in a week.

480
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Speaker 2: Couldn't hit him.

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Speaker 1: I think if the Mets weren't playing such good baseball

482
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Speaker 1: and like you said, didn't have twelve wins this this,

483
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Speaker 1: this would be a bigger problem. But really, at the

484
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Speaker 1: end of the day, when you're a twelve win team,

485
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Speaker 1: like it's okay, you can lose some games. And that's

486
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Speaker 1: just kind of what this game felt like. I mean,

487
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Speaker 1: Trevor Williams is on the mound for us in the beginning,

488
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Speaker 1: and it's kind of dinked and doinked him again, like

489
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Speaker 1: all over the place. They just were kind of sharper

490
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Speaker 1: than the Mets in this game. It felt like, at least.

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Speaker 2: I don't even think it was sharper. It was just

492
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Speaker 2: that their ground balls and lazy fly balls were finding

493
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Speaker 2: holes while ours kind of were not. Like we only

494
00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,760
Speaker 2: have four heart hit balls against some Bardo Costiganos in

495
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Speaker 2: five innings. Sure, and then hilariously the Diamondbacks in the

496
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,200
Speaker 2: first five innings also only had four heart hit balls.

497
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Speaker 2: There's just turned into more runs, Like that's gonna happen.

498
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Speaker 2: That's baseball, Susan. And it's just this, this Trevor Williams

499
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 2: isn't really a starting pitcher in this league anymore. I

500
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 2: don't know what he ever really was. He has values

501
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Speaker 2: to this team and he has been effective at times,

502
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Speaker 2: but he's just not It's hard to just like start

503
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 2: the game and that's Trevor Williams again. They didn't hit

504
00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,040
Speaker 2: him hard, they didn't. They just put it where we ain't.

505
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Speaker 2: And it sucks that the Mets, who have been pitching

506
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Speaker 2: so well and all the starting pitchers have been so

507
00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,320
Speaker 2: lockstep that because of a stupid rain now that we

508
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,119
Speaker 2: had nothing to do with. We had to shuffle our

509
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 2: rotation and use a six starter like that sucks. Basically,

510
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,240
Speaker 2: rain cost the Mets to win basically this season so far.

511
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Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much, because that weird doubleheader definitely made it,

512
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Speaker 1: you know, peculiar with the pitching rotation and how you're

513
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Speaker 1: gonna line up guys here.

514
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Speaker 2: And that's no fault, that's just that's just how it's

515
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Speaker 2: how it is. And we just don't have a good

516
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 2: six star the right now with injuries.

517
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Speaker 1: That's not that's not complaining. We're just we're Aaron grievances. Yeah,

518
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 1: we're just saying, but we did try and rally back here.

519
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,880
Speaker 1: Jeff McNeil in the Fifth's just funny because we talked

520
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,639
Speaker 1: about Jeff McNeil and how great he's been great, great

521
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Speaker 1: triple dude. He's just such a good ballplayer. She's so good.

522
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Speaker 2: He's making moves, he's making moves, and he's hitting certainly

523
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Speaker 2: well enough to not be hitting eighth. I would say

524
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Speaker 2: he's hitting well enough to either be hitting fourth, fifth, sixth,

525
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Speaker 2: or even second, depending on how we could shuffle this

526
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Speaker 2: line up up.

527
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Speaker 1: But yeah, he's just been a huge part of the offense.

528
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Speaker 2: Yeah, him hitting eighth is is crazy I'm happy that

529
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Speaker 2: it kind of worked down in the situation. You got

530
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Speaker 2: RBA triple who was he was also immediately driven in

531
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Speaker 2: by Thomas Nedo with an RBS single and then yeah,

532
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Speaker 2: brand Nemo up the chance to keep this rally going

533
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Speaker 2: turn turn the lineup over. He had a lazy line

534
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Speaker 2: drive to Heraldo Perdomo who was playing just to the

535
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Speaker 2: right of second base, and Thomas Needo was just baulting

536
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Speaker 2: the second out of nowhere. He just he took off,

537
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Speaker 2: raving the pitcher running. He's like, I'm scoring first on

538
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Speaker 2: a single, baby, I'm Thomas Needo and he was just

539
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Speaker 2: very very lazily thrown out from there. He may have

540
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Speaker 2: thought there were two outs, I don't know, or he

541
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Speaker 2: just might have he might have not been totally aware

542
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Speaker 2: of the shift that was being played and thought the

543
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 2: ball got through. But I was just like, ah fuck,

544
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Speaker 2: that was like the one little rally we had in

545
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 2: the air was completely taken out of the sales. Yeah.

546
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 1: Again, kind of goes back to my think it just

547
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 1: it wasn't It wasn't a sharp game for them. That's

548
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Speaker 1: kind of on any aspect of what was going on.

549
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 1: Shout to Sean Reed Foley though he did pitch well

550
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 1: in the two and two thirds innings that he was

551
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Speaker 1: out there for the Mets. He gave us much needed length,

552
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 1: which when Trevor Williams only went what two I think

553
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,199
Speaker 1: in the game, that just too. It helps out a

554
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Speaker 1: lot ton.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And then after Reid Foley came in for those

556
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 2: two and two thirds innings, Ada Bonavino came in for

557
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 2: him with a two to one in the fifth and

558
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 2: he got out of a jam good, kept the Mets

559
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Speaker 2: in the game. And of course he came back out

560
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 2: for the sixth after an updown and he gave up

561
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Speaker 2: a run. So now this is again becoming a theme

562
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 2: every single game that we're seeing when the Mets ballpen

563
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 2: does give up a run, it's because someone came in,

564
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 2: sat down, staid up, and not saying that these guys

565
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 2: can't do that, like they can do that like Ada.

566
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Speaker 2: Monavio did this six times last year, pitched more than

567
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 2: one full Ironico, he didn't do that once last year

568
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 2: until May twenty sixth, So it's kind of a situation

569
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 2: where maybe he got more warm or maybe the team

570
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 2: just got more used to him. But I just don't

571
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Speaker 2: know why this is becoming such a thing with the

572
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,959
Speaker 2: me as Bullpen. Why they're so insistent on guys coming in,

573
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 2: sitting down, and coming back out Like it's happening almost

574
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Speaker 2: on a per game basis right now, and it's clear

575
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 2: that it affects these pictures effectiveness. I know there's a

576
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 2: world where I wish these guys could sit down and

577
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 2: come back up. That's how relievers used to be back

578
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 2: in the good old days. But it's just it doesn't

579
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 2: seem like this is the way these guys were developed

580
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 2: or brought up, or the way they were intended to

581
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Speaker 2: be used. Ever.

582
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd really love to pick Buck's brain about this

583
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Speaker 1: one because there has to be we'en bring up process again,

584
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Speaker 1: because that's our favorite word of this podcast. But is

585
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Speaker 1: there something that the Mets see or that Buck show, Walter,

586
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Speaker 1: Jeremy Hefner. Is there something that is leading them to

587
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,360
Speaker 1: make these decisions, because, like you said, these guys kind

588
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Speaker 1: of do it later in the year normally after they're

589
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Speaker 1: warming up. Are they trying to like artificially get these

590
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Speaker 1: guys more stretched out because of the lack of spring training,

591
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Speaker 1: Like I'm just trying to get my mind on the

592
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: idea as as to why it feels like every single

593
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Speaker 1: game there is at least one reliever who tries and

594
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Speaker 1: come out for a like second inning of work.

595
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Speaker 2: Theoretically, I think it's been a situation early on this

596
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 2: season where the Mets know that their pitching depth is

597
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 2: being tested and it's probably a little bit thinner than

598
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 2: they would like it to be, or they expect it

599
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 2: to be this early in the year, so they're just

600
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 2: trying to squeeze like a little bit more of every guy.

601
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 2: If every guy gives five extra percent, that can get

602
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 2: you through a whole another day and get you to

603
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 2: maybe Taiwan becoming healthy next week, and then the appearing

604
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 2: comes back up, hopefully one day Jacob Grom comes back

605
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 2: and eventually you can like everyone bance together to fill

606
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 2: the voids left right now by the guys who are

607
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 2: not here. But it just seems like it's kind of

608
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 2: biting the Mets in the ass more than not, and

609
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 2: we should just maybe be using more relievers on a

610
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 2: daily basis.

611
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, something to keep an eye out for.

612
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Speaker 1: Will continue to do that, and this game again like

613
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Speaker 1: just just not particularly sharp. We got guys on base

614
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Speaker 1: every single inning and just we couldn't get that hit

615
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 1: that really pushed us through and made this a ball game.

616
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was. There was one particular exchange and the

617
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Speaker 2: I think it was the seventh or eighth inning of

618
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Speaker 2: this game, maybe a seventh whatever, maybe the sixth, I

619
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Speaker 2: don't know, but there was this. Robinson Cano got a

620
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Speaker 2: lead off single, leadoff single, nobody on, and then Jeff

621
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Speaker 2: McNeil's up with the plate, wild pitch. Robinson Cano advances

622
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Speaker 2: a second base, which I know how reluctant I'm sure

623
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Speaker 2: he was to do that. Also a little bit of

624
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 2: the base bads. Robins a gounda standing on second base,

625
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 2: and Jeff McNeil hits just an absolute screamer up the middle,

626
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 2: and who was standing there without an an inch of

627
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 2: space neither direction but mister Robinson Cano, and the ball

628
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 2: just clanks right off his ankle. A situation that probably

629
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 2: would have scored the Mets a run at least would

630
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 2: have had runners on the corns with nobody out, turned

631
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 2: into just a man on first with nobody out, and

632
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Speaker 2: it's just shit like that was going on all games.

633
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Speaker 2: They just clean with one out. Yeah, man on first

634
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 2: with one out, you're right, sorry, my bad. It just

635
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 2: chip like that was going on all game. It didn't

636
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 2: seem like the Mets could really string together enough hits

637
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 2: in order to get through for enough runs to make

638
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 2: this competitive. And a lot of that is just, yeah,

639
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 2: I don't know. You wake up, sometimes you wake up

640
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 2: on the wrong side of beds. Sometimes you all execute.

641
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,239
Speaker 2: Sometimes you can't hit as part of the game. But

642
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 2: the way his lineup was drawn up, I don't know.

643
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 2: It just seemed like there were just ebbs and flows

644
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 2: of it, peaks and valleys where there was enough to sustain.

645
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was no continuity, it felt like in this lineup,

646
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: but just felt like everyone was kind of slightly off

647
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 1: with the function way of how this lineup should have

648
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 1: been moving.

649
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 2: And talk about moving, the strike zone was moving on

650
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 2: the Mets all game. Here Pilonzo was punched out on

651
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 2: the ball that was probably like two inches below the play.

652
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 2: He had some words to say the home play umpire

653
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 2: and Pete very rarely has words to say to an umpire,

654
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 2: and there were just a lot of calls all over

655
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 2: the place in this game. He was like, why is

656
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: that a strike? Like it was a weird game, weird game,

657
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 2: bad loss. Whatever you got to hit, you can't win.

658
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 2: Them all. This is one they're gonna lose.

659
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the big story is you just you

660
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 1: can't win them all, but you definitely shouldn't be losing

661
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: dom bertil castianos so.

662
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 2: And also this may be just the karma game, because

663
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 2: the Mets probably shouldn't have won the Friday night game

664
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 2: between how well Zach Gallon pitched and just the miracle

665
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 2: that they were able to pull it out after blowing.

666
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: It, and also the absurd strike three called it could

667
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: tell Marte which was talking about that at his ankles

668
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: that scraped the ground completely forgot about that because again,

669
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: when we win, I don't need to worry about how

670
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 1: we got lucky and won that game. We just won.

671
00:26:59,000 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 1: We're good.

672
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, maybe this was the karma game for the Mets.

673
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 2: You gotta flush out the bad energy with the loss

674
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 2: like this and then bring the good stuff back in.

675
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 2: Luckily for the Mets, the good stuff did come back

676
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 2: in on Sunday because we had Tyler big Drip Drip

677
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 2: McGill on the mound and he looked fantastic. Once again,

678
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 2: he's just so good.

679
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: He's so good. I was able to just watch this

680
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 1: game a little bit at Greek Easter with the Greek

681
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: family out in Yonkers having a good time meeting some lamb.

682
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: They also put a goat on the spin. We had

683
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: the spit going, so the lamb and the goat. I

684
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 1: don't touch the goat. I had it once. It's metallic.

685
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: I don't care for it. But the lamb, let me

686
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: tell you, unbelievable that skin. It's fantastic. A real, real

687
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: good day of food and drinks and also a good

688
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 1: day because the Mets ended up winning this game, as

689
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: you guys know, and Tyler McGill, like you said again,

690
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: just continues to keep rolling and show that he is.

691
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: He's here, and he's here, just that he is.

692
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 2: He's definitely here to stay. And also I just love

693
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 2: I love when my pitcher can get to the mound

694
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 2: with a run behind him already, especially especially after the

695
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 2: awful night of offense on Saturday, that the Mets were

696
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 2: able to quickly get on the board. Marcana infield single

697
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 2: Kevin Alkatara first of a few errors in this game,

698
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 2: scoring on a lindoor base knock. It's also really cool

699
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 2: that the Mets can sit Brandon Nemo give him a day,

700
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 2: especially coming off COVID which we know affects people in

701
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: different ways. I'm sure he was probably a little lethargic

702
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 2: or something. And then just Marcanna can step into the

703
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 2: leadoff shoes and be able to fill it with the

704
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: past with flying colors, even though he didn't really have

705
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 2: that many good at bats in this game. Just getting

706
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 2: on base to start the game and be ready for

707
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 2: your two, three and four hitters, that's what that's the

708
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 2: leadoff hitters job.

709
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it's so massive to get on base in

710
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: the first sitting because when we have a good lineup

711
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 1: like this with Lindor and Pete and Martey and all

712
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: these guys in Escabar who can come up and drive

713
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: in runs, you have the opportunity, like you said, to

714
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: get ahead early and really put the other team on pressure,

715
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: like put pressure on them right from the get go.

716
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: And we saw that when Lindor got the quick RBI

717
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: with Kannon getting on base in the first sitting. So

718
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: it's like you said, it's really nice. It's a great

719
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: luxury that this Mets team has. And also, I fucking

720
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: love Francisco Lindor. Dude had another great game today.

721
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, awesome, the guy plays everywhere. But even just funny

722
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 2: that we're even talking about the Mets having like a

723
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 2: backup leadoff hitter when we went like almost ten full

724
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 2: years without having even any leadoff hither, any semblance of

725
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 2: a leadoff hither and this roster it.

726
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: Went Jose Reyes nobody now rand An mmo. Yeah, it's

727
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: kind of and there's a lot in between there. And

728
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: it's funny too that you bring up like, you know,

729
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: scoring in the first in and getting guys on base,

730
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: Like even if Cana didn't have the grace at baths today,

731
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: he got on base. And I remember when Jose Rays

732
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: used to be the on base machine at the top

733
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: of the order for the Mets. They're like, if he

734
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: gets on.

735
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 2: Base, she's a stretch. Jose Rays, he made a habit

736
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 2: of not getting on base as often as he should have.

737
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: Okay, fine, maybe he didn't have the greatest play discipline,

738
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: but I mean in his prime with the Mets, he

739
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: was getting on base like three fifty three sixty thirty

740
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: six percent of the time. That's really good for Jose Ray,

741
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: especially with his speed. But more of the story here

742
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: is I remember the stat that used to pop up

743
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: on screens that when Jose Rays got on base and

744
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: scored the first.

745
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 2: Round of the game.

746
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: For the Mets, they typically tend to win games, and

747
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: that's something that this Mets team we've seen has been

748
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: able to do early, get on the board early, and

749
00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: pitch comfortably with the lead.

750
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 2: Yes, and that was very, very important for Tyler McGill

751
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 2: because he just with that lead starting off, he just

752
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 2: completely bodied this not so good dying backs lineup the

753
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 2: way any good picture should to a bad lineup. He

754
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: had more whiffs with one now in the second inning

755
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 2: of this game than Massive Bumgarner had the.

756
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: Entire game, which I love to hear because yes, fuck

757
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: Madison Bumgarner.

758
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Massive mumgar is doing this bullshit right now

759
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 2: where everyone thinks he's still like good. He got it

760
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: back even though he's his stuff is not very good

761
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 2: and he's I think he's given up only one run

762
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 2: this year and ten innings at work or something like that,

763
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 2: maybe two.

764
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: He's done the thing like you said, where he avoids

765
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: bad results, but if you dive deeper into the soup,

766
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: you'd know it's not very flavorful.

767
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 2: There were two just ridiculous sentences there.

768
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, I wanted to throw something crazy out there.

769
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 2: Basically they were throwing like Gary and Ron. Of course

770
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 2: they're going to do this like they were throwing the

771
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 2: round like a big Picture's duel coming up here, and

772
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 2: Tyler McGill went step for step in Madison Bumguner. But

773
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 2: Tyler McGill is so much better than Massive bumgarn it's

774
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 2: not even funny, Like Tyler McGill is is a really

775
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 2: good picture and Maddion Mumgarner is just trying to get

776
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 2: through his games, and Massive Mourner will get through his game,

777
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 2: so he'll probably end up with a decent stat uh

778
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 2: stat line at the end of the year. But we're

779
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: talking about Tyler McGill. His final line on Sunday was

780
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 2: six and two thirds innings, which is almost the longest

781
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 2: star of his entire career. He almost got through the

782
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 2: seventh I really wanted him to be He only did

783
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 2: that one other time, but whatever, six and two thirds innings,

784
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 2: pitch five hits, two earned one walk, seven strikeouts like frick. Yeah.

785
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 2: The only time he did ever complete seven was that

786
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: Friday night Subway Series game from last summer against the Yankees,

787
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 2: and he just in the black Jersey, just completely just

788
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,959
Speaker 2: manhandled the Yankees lineup. When that was the first time,

789
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 2: We're like, not the first time, but that was the

790
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 2: first time after he was bad for like basically a

791
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 2: full month straight. We were like, all right, guesstill wants

792
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: itsill has it.

793
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: I just love that he pounds the zone, absolutely pounds

794
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: the zone. Doesn't walk anybody like you keep keep it

795
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: in your defense in the game, Tyler McGill does it.

796
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: There is no like, oh my god, three and one again,

797
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god, three and two again. Like he's just

798
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: he's really in control on the mound. He looks unbelievably comfortable.

799
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: And again the confidence is something we've talked about from

800
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: the start, Big Dick energy for big drip there. He

801
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: just he really does get on the mound and think

802
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: he's the best pitcher on it, like in the world.

803
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, for sure. And he's doing this

804
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: all and keeps saying this at still throwing sixty percent fastballs,

805
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. Diamback swung a twenty six fast balls

806
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 2: in this game and they wif seven times, which is

807
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 2: a pretty good wif, right, not great, and they also

808
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: had he also got twelve McGill also got twelve calls

809
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 2: strikes with that pitch. So he's just telling you, I'm

810
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 2: throwing a ninety seven mile no howur fastball right at you.

811
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 2: You can hit it or you cannot. You're probably not

812
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 2: going to because it's not as good as me. But

813
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 2: this was going to happen. The confidence, the cocking is

814
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 2: the swagger's unbelievable. And with that has changed up and slidered.

815
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 2: They still look good. Everything good is still there. I

816
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 2: don't know if you guys notice is watching, but Tyler McGill,

817
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 2: who doesn't very often throw a curveball, he dropped a

818
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: very sneaky curveball on David Perrault with one strike in

819
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 2: the first ending. He only threw three others of the

820
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 2: rest of the game, but just showing a veteran hither

821
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: a pitch that probably was barely in their scatting report

822
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: in the first inning. That's a really savvy move from

823
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 2: the young, young right hander McGill.

824
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: I want to get something nice off from Sports Illustrated.

825
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: Eric Lawer's thirteen strikeouts against the Philly Fuck.

826
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, fuck yeah, you could leave that in the podcast. Yeah,

827
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: and I think they mentioned on the broadcast too, something

828
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: that I think we've even spoken about before. But it's

829
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: just really nice that these pitchers seem to be getting

830
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: together every time they're on the mound and they're talking

831
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: to each other, they're sharing information, they're sharing knowledge. And

832
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: what do you want more than Max Schureser to have

833
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: a conversation with Tyler or McGill about pitching. I mean,

834
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: we talked about Bassett like going through the lineup before

835
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: and then showing a curveball second time through, a third

836
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: time through, and we see McGill starting to experiment a

837
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: little bit more with the curveball. Like I think, these

838
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: are all things that are starting to rub off on

839
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: each other. And this is another reason why they're all

840
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: pitching so well, is they're just really focused on the game.

841
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,479
Speaker 1: They all want to get better. And when you have

842
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: one of the greatest pictures of all time and Max Scherzer,

843
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: who's also a part of this inner circle, I mean,

844
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I'll say that. I'll say that for sure,

845
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: he's sick. I mean, it can only mean good things,

846
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: only mean good things.

847
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 2: Literally, right after you left the mound and Gary and

848
00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:59,959
Speaker 2: Rohn were talking about this a lot, like, McGill went

849
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 2: right to Scherzer and they sat down had a very

850
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 2: animated conversation for a while. They were like laughing a

851
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 2: little bit too. They were using something hand gesters, like

852
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: they seem like they're becoming friends. It almost kind of.

853
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: Look like a little bit too, which is the big,

854
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: big white guys. It's also really gotta be sick for

855
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: Tyler R. McGill, who said his favorite pitcher growing up

856
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: was Max Schurzer. I remember at spring training they talked

857
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: about He's like, I go to catch with Max Scherzer today.

858
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: I couldn't. He couldn't believe it. Now he's he's Chumley

859
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: with you know, Max Scherzer on the bench talking about

860
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: pitch sequencing probably like that's gotta be so freaking cool.

861
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 2: And also even past Scherz are like I love again

862
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 2: what shares a means to this team. But like Carlos

863
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 2: Carrasco has had an illustrious career and Chris bass is

864
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 2: a grizzled veteran like these between those three guys like

865
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 2: you have a lifetime of baseball knowledge and for a

866
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 2: young pitcher like Tyler McGill and David Peterson was doing

867
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: this too, and Friday night to be able to sit

868
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 2: there and soak that up and like take all of

869
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: that in it's invaluable to growth and development, something that

870
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 2: doesn't show up on the statue with.

871
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: The great brain of Jeremy Hefner. I mean, boy, oh boy,

872
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: the Met's really got some pitching magic going on right now.

873
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 2: Figuring awesome. The only plumish from this incredible Tyler McGill

874
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: adding another incredible Tyler mcgl laughing was well not getting

875
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 2: out of seventh inning just he got the six and

876
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 2: two thirtys and gave it back to back kits whatever.

877
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 2: But the Christian Walker home run that we referenced before,

878
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 2: that was one of the furthest home runs I've ever

879
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: seen in the game. It's like four to sixty.

880
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: Feet I said it earlier as we can like.

881
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, it also buxed and crossed it pas today with

882
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 2: a second home run two.

883
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, he's pretty sick. And we did kind

884
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: of keep it closer to the dimonbacks, like we mentioned

885
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: that earlier. We meandered, Yeah, we like to make the

886
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: Mets fans sweat. We were all sweat and I was

887
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: sweating at Greek Eastern. It wasn't from food comb of

888
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: food sweats as we're keeping it close. But again, thank god,

889
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: for Sergio Alcintara, who somehow hit his one lone home

890
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 1: run ever against us. He made up for it because

891
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:37,959
Speaker 1: he's stunk today.

892
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: He also okay, well, we mentioned before Sergio Olcintara made

893
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 2: I think wound up being three hoers in this game.

894
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 2: And this came on the heels of Saturday night where

895
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 2: he made two plays at third base that each made

896
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 2: my jaw drop. One the ninth inning against J. D. Davis,

897
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 2: a nice ball down the line he did full extension

898
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 2: dive up in one motion and to a dart across

899
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 2: the diamond to end the game. And also we had

900
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 2: one earlier in the game in the hall. I forgot

901
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,439
Speaker 2: who it was on, but there was a starling Marte

902
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 2: hit the ball kind of in the gap. I don't

903
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 2: even know if I'll call it in the gap, and uh,

904
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 2: it was just it was just a play a doll

905
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 2: in var show like he was almost too athletic to

906
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 2: really corral, and he overran it, slid it, hit off

907
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 2: his chest and sawring Martey cruise in the second with

908
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 2: a would have been a hustle double but turned out

909
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: just to be a double because Marshall dropped the ball

910
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 2: with Lindor up Starling immediately got basically a walking lead

911
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 2: and stole third. He had beat the throw by about

912
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: a step. Shirt al Katara could not handle the throw.

913
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 2: Salring Marte walked in after being obstructed by al Kantara.

914
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 2: The ball got so far away that even after being

915
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 2: obstructed with a Kantara laying down in front of him

916
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 2: and blocking his pathway though home plate, so I was

917
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 2: able to jog it. That gave us the lead and

918
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 2: a lead that we would not relinquish. And then later

919
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: after that, still sticking with just the bad, bad Diamondbacks bullpen,

920
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 2: they loaded the bases on a hit, a walk, and

921
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 2: a hit by pitch of James mccannon, which every single

922
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 2: time James mcang gets hit by a pitch and Angel

923
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 2: gets their wings, there's nothing better than James mccannon taking

924
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: it and taking a ball off his arm, and but

925
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 2: gave the the look at the top step and Edwin,

926
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 2: You say, though, who's had stuff in the past that

927
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: I thought was okay. He came into this game and

928
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 2: he just had had no similar to the strike zone

929
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 2: I mentioned before. JD. Davis walked, gior May got a

930
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 2: base hit, Jess mcami was hit by the pitch, like

931
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 2: I said, the angel flew away. And then as a

932
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 2: pitcher and you're facing Travis Jankowski with the bases loaded,

933
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 2: one man out, you set to throw four balls to

934
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 2: Travis Shankowski in a row. He walked on four pitches

935
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 2: with the basis loaded in a one run game in

936
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: the seventh dning, like Ron was so disgusted by this

937
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 2: performance from a relief pitcher. He's like, I can't believe that. Man,

938
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: what are you doing your this is your job here.

939
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 2: You gotta throw a strike to the guy, like even

940
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: like insinuating like this is Travis Jankowski, Like what the

941
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 2: hell you doing here, dude? And after that you set

942
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 2: to actually did get Markana to fly out, so it

943
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: looked like a Diamembaxter and Gea. It's only allowing one

944
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 2: run miraculously with the basis load and not being able

945
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: to throw one strike. And Taylor Widner comes into the game,

946
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 2: a guy who we shouted out for being bad even

947
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 2: the last time in Bags preview. He promptly hits Starling

948
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: Marte with a pitch. So the Met's got two runs

949
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 2: and seventh thing of this game on a basis load

950
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 2: walk and a basic load hit by pitch and just

951
00:37:58,440 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: the chaos of bad teams bullpens.

952
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, listen, we'll take advantage of that bad team

953
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: bullpen all day long. That's what I want to hear,

954
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: bad team bullpen screwing up like they were supposed to.

955
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,479
Speaker 1: That's not what we're normally used to hearing his Mets fans.

956
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 1: So it's very refreshing to see that a shit team

957
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: played like shit and that's why we were able to

958
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 1: partially win this game as well. Also, JD. Davis off

959
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: the Shneine home run, I know he barreled up a

960
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: couple of balls, well he didn't technically barrow them, but

961
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: he hit a couple of balls hard against the Giants,

962
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: which was a very good, you know, omen of what

963
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: was to come. And he crushed his ball with right

964
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: center field right.

965
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, crushed it power ally off a right handed pitcher. Mind,

966
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 2: you're still the same, that very same Taylor Widner. So

967
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 2: it looks like maybe JD. Davis is allowed to hit

968
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 2: against right handed pitchers lay in games. You wouldn't have

969
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: thought that from the way these last few weeks have

970
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 2: played out, But JD. Davis is I'm telling you every

971
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 2: Mets fan, he is allowed to hit against right handed

972
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 2: pitchers and with you know he could hit them well. Also,

973
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 2: I want to shout out Edward the Wescobar who right

974
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 2: before the JD. Davis home run hit an absolute screamer

975
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 2: also off of Widener. He hit three hard He hit

976
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: three hard hit balls in this game and couldn't even

977
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: get one. Bait said the show for it. He was

978
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 2: lacing the ball all over the yard.

979
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: He had an O for today and he had, like

980
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,439
Speaker 1: you said, like legit, three hard hit baseballs, no doubt

981
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: about it.

982
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 2: Tough day, you know, War of the West ball. So

983
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 2: he almost hit that home run you predicted before the series.

984
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 2: He almost sad he got close to it. Yeah, and

985
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: we finally got one more run this game because Luiski

986
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 2: or may or King who another guy who he can

987
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 2: be in the mix, including J D. Davis. Like why

988
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 2: the guys can hit lating games. It's pretty unbelievable. He

989
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 2: had a nice hustle double and he scored on a

990
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 2: very lazy ground ball that Alcantara just completely botched at

991
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 2: their base. He literally he tried to do the thing

992
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 2: where like you have your glove next to your body

993
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 2: and he just completely missed the ball and that gave

994
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 2: us a four run lead, and that was all she wrote.

995
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, Luis j Ormay, good day, two for four on

996
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: the day. I love Luis playing great. Into a little

997
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: bit more playing time. We'll talk about the bench hierarchy

998
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: after we wrap up this game. Lugo came in. He

999
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: was good. He had an updown as well, which there

1000
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: we go. Once a game we got to talk about

1001
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,760
Speaker 1: the updowns. He's good, he looks like he's pretty much back.

1002
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can say he didn't get one with in

1003
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 2: this game. The four outs he got, but he only

1004
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 2: threw fourteen five balls and curveball. So this is this

1005
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 2: seems to be an adjustment that was something that was

1006
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 2: intentional and something that looks like may have stuck.

1007
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: Someone's listened to the mets of the podcast that's getting

1008
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: in the head of Seph lou Will. That's all I'm

1009
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: gonna say.

1010
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,240
Speaker 2: Jeremy Asner, Jeremy, have your award winning.

1011
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: Listener, Avid Avid listener. And then the game's over, Joey

1012
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: comes in, wins the game. Put in the books. That's

1013
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: all we want to talk about with this time back series.

1014
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: Two out of the three games that we want we

1015
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: have to do. There's not a whole lot of Detailer's

1016
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: not a whole lot of craziness. That did go on.

1017
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 1: The Mets win another series and can.

1018
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 2: Have won every series they played this year.

1019
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 1: Yep, five for five, twelve wins on the year, most

1020
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: wins in all of Major League Baseball. Hell yeah, boom,

1021
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: All right, Now, let's talk about this bench hierarchy, because

1022
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: we just just teased it seconds ago.

1023
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 2: A couple of housekeeping elements here, a couple.

1024
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: Of housekeeping things. I'm trying to figure out what the

1025
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: bench hierarchy is, and I'm trying to figure out what

1026
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: it should be. I think me and you probably both

1027
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: have a ranking of who we trust the most as

1028
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: the bench guys right now. Right If you're gonna say

1029
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: who's coming up one, two, three, four, five.

1030
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 2: I would say so of these five guys you're talking about, JD. Davis,

1031
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 2: Dom Smith, Robinson, Canoe, luwiski Orme, and just Jenkowski.

1032
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jankowski will get him in there as well, because

1033
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: I think he's a bench guy. And I got a

1034
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 1: really good feeling that what we think the Mets hierarchy

1035
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: is is definitely not what we think it should be No,

1036
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: it seems like the Mets hierarchy is probably some combination

1037
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: of Dom Smith Robinson Canoe won just because they also

1038
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: they are lefties. You're facing mostly righties in Major League

1039
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: Baseball season, so you want to get that lefty matchup.

1040
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: And in the game they played on Saturday, when McNeil,

1041
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: Dom and Canoe werell in the lineup, they went in

1042
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: the lineup Dom, Canoe McNeil.

1043
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 2: So it seems like, just based on that logic, that

1044
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 2: Dom is I guess a hairhead of Canoe right now

1045
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 2: in the hierarchy, and somehow, some way they might both

1046
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 2: be out of Jeff McNeil, even though he's an established

1047
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 2: ear they in this team as someone who's're probably hitting

1048
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 2: in the top half of the lineup, but whatever, And

1049
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: just also seems like the JD. Davis early in the

1050
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 2: year has been relegated to only getting at bats against lefties.

1051
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 2: But it seems like we're getting to a spot now

1052
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 2: where we're seeing Davis hit the ball significantly harder and

1053
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 2: with more authority in those other guys. And then I

1054
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 2: don't know what else there is about who should be

1055
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 2: getting more of these at bets.

1056
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the way Robinson Cano is playing right now,

1057
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: it's not good. No, I think that's a very normal take.

1058
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 1: That's not even me being like a hater or anything.

1059
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 1: He's not playing well. He's just not bringing a whole

1060
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 1: lot to the table. So if he's not hitting well,

1061
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: you have to give that time to Luis Ki or

1062
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 1: May who is a good fielder and is actually putting

1063
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: the ball in play and making things happen. Like to me,

1064
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: if I'm Luis Ki Army, I'm I'm like, how how

1065
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: am I not.

1066
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 2: In the game?

1067
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 1: War? I feel like today two for four that definitely helps,

1068
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: Like it has to help because he's he's a good ballplayer.

1069
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 1: We've talked about it for the last year plus doing

1070
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: this podcast, Like he's never gonna be the best player

1071
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: on the team. He's never gonna be the best middle

1072
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: infielder in the league. He's never gonna dominate. You're not

1073
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: gonna watch Luis ki Ormey play and go, oh my goodness.

1074
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 1: Is generational talent. But in the spot that he in

1075
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: the role that he has, in the position he plays,

1076
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,439
Speaker 1: he's better than Robinson Cano right now. And I feel

1077
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: like he's just got to get more time until he

1078
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 1: proves he doesn't deserve it. If that's a thing.

1079
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, we should all be looking at the DH situation

1080
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 2: kind of just like a pie chart, and you have

1081
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: these four names between Sorry Travis Gankowski, but he has

1082
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 2: a role on the team. It's just not a guy

1083
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 2: who's going to be in the lineup more than one

1084
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 2: day a week. And he's great back upout great back

1085
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 2: up out here. He plays a good defense, he's really fast,

1086
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 2: puts it back on the ball, fantastic. He was lestening

1087
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 2: for that back against Camille the ball. That's not his fault.

1088
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: That's okay. That's like letting your fifteen year old cousin

1089
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 2: drive a car. It's just you shouldn't have done it,

1090
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 2: and you can't be mad when he crashes. But we

1091
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 2: have the pie chart right now of Cano, Dom, jdgy Orme,

1092
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 2: and right now that pie chart, based on how playing

1093
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 2: time has wound up early in the year, you're kind

1094
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 2: of looking at like with fifty percent, twenty five percent, Dom, fifteen,

1095
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 2: Guy Ormey, ten, JD. Davis. Right, Yeah, and that feels

1096
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 2: logically about how it's gone so far.

1097
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and especially because like you said, like JD, they're

1098
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: not going to hit him against right, he's although he's

1099
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: proving yes that he still hits the ball hard. And

1100
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: there's something we always knew with J. D. Davis too,

1101
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: is that the boy can.

1102
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 2: He's never been a doubt, never been a bad hither

1103
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 2: And it's just like, at some point, it's like, why

1104
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 2: is Cano getting this large of a section of this pie.

1105
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 2: There's no reason for it, really, at a at least

1106
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: have to scale his back a little bit to get

1107
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 2: more defensive reps for released Luiski Army and just a

1108
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 2: few more at bats a week for J. D. Davis. Like,

1109
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 2: there's no reason for Robson Cano for based on what

1110
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 2: he is right now and what we even expected him

1111
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 2: to be coming into the season, to be getting this

1112
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 2: lion's share of the Mets DH reps. It's just it's

1113
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: really hard for me the reason that it doesn't make

1114
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 2: any sense and it's not costing the team wins. I'm

1115
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 2: not gonna say that, but it's definitely you're definitely losing

1116
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 2: an element that you could gain with either a JD.

1117
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 2: Davis in the game who is consistently good at bats

1118
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 2: and hits the piss out of the ball, or Luiski Army,

1119
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 2: who is probably the best defensive second basement on its

1120
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 2: entire roster.

1121
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, without a doubt. The bench hierarchy is something we're

1122
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: gonna keep an eye out for here as we get

1123
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: going on further into the season because, like you said,

1124
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: Cano has been playing a lot and the numbers aren't there.

1125
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: So is that going to get scaled back a little bit?

1126
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: Are we going to see a change? We'll find out

1127
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: as we keep going on here. Some other stuff again,

1128
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: housekeeping to talk about Jacob de Gram. Today is a

1129
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: big day. You guys are listening to it on the day,

1130
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: so you probably already heard the news. But the boys

1131
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: are sweating because this is when we get the results

1132
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: back from Jake de Gram's MRI on that shoulder, whether

1133
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 1: or not he's gonna be able to start rehab, go

1134
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: back to Florida, start throwing because he has not thrown yet.

1135
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: This is big. This is big prayer circle. Everybody, you

1136
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: gotta cross your fingers, sleep with a spoon underneath your pillow.

1137
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: I think is what we did for snow days. Whatever

1138
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: you gotta do tonight. We need all the good juju

1139
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: because this team has looked really, really good and we've

1140
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: been missing the best pitcher in all of baseball, without

1141
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: a doubt. Imagine what this team could look like if

1142
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 1: Jacob Degram is back and healthy. I mean, ah huge.

1143
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 2: It's gonna be so dumb listening to this back when

1144
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 2: the news comes out like at ten o'clock in the

1145
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 2: morning or like noon, and we're gonna know very quickly.

1146
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: And you guys can have had to listen to us

1147
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 2: talk about the Diamondbacks for forty minutes. But when you

1148
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 2: even know that Jacob de Gram is going to pitch

1149
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 2: a simulated game or be out for the rest of

1150
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 2: the season, it's it's just a constant hell of brewing

1151
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 2: for this team that your best player is always in

1152
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 2: the balance, always.

1153
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,479
Speaker 1: Always in the bounce, and Jacob de Gram wishing the best,

1154
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: wishing the best, good news. We gotta I don't. I

1155
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 1: don't have any wood around me right now. Oh I got.

1156
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: I got a nice chest back here that I can

1157
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: knock on that's made of wood. We want all the

1158
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 1: good juju.

1159
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 2: As much good juju as possible, and the other side

1160
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 2: of good juju is bad juju. And we're just gonna

1161
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 2: briefly talk about this. We talked about a guy a

1162
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: lot in spring training, and now news came down over

1163
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 2: the weekend that Mile Conford, though, is getting an additional

1164
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 2: shoulder surgery and he will without having signed to the team,

1165
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 2: missed the entire season. Macael four is a guy we

1166
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 2: saw play a lot. I feel bad for him that

1167
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 2: he got stuck in the situation, declined the qualifying offer.

1168
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 2: I'm sure based on Scott Boris is an instruction and

1169
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 2: now has backed himself into a corner where he has

1170
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 2: to go a full year without earning money. And for

1171
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 2: any person on Earth, that's a really hard thing. And

1172
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 2: I feel bad for Mick conforda for that.

1173
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, he got Boris hard.

1174
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1175
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: Boris will do this to one player every single year.

1176
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: It feels like it just so happened to be Michael CONFORDO.

1177
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: Feels super bad for the dude, especially because when he

1178
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 1: hits the free agent market next year, it's going to

1179
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: be bleak.

1180
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just it's gonna be weird, weird situation for him.

1181
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 2: It could wind up being one of those strange stories

1182
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 2: we look back on like ten fifteen years as baseball

1183
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 2: fans being like, what the hell happened to Michael Conford though, Yeah, just.

1184
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: Steven dro it happened to Stephen Drove.

1185
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just doesn't.

1186
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: It just sometimes happens. It's unfortunate. Wish the best for

1187
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: Michael Confordo speedy recovery. All Right, before we go into

1188
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: the Cardinals preview, let's talk about this date coming up

1189
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 1: May first, where the Mets have to cut down the

1190
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: roster from twenty eight to twenty.

1191
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 2: Six players, to cut down everyone in baseball.

1192
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not just Mets, but yeah, everybody in base No,

1193
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:21,720
Speaker 1: only the Mets have to cut.

1194
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 2: Down the roster.

1195
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: Too many wins, too many wins, you have to cut

1196
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: the roster. They're going from twenty eight to twenty six players,

1197
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: and you have to carry thirteen pitchers maximum. They're at

1198
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: fourteen right now, so there's gonna be at least one

1199
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: pitcher sent down, as well as the possibility of a

1200
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: bench guy. So that is something we'll talk about more

1201
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: going into the next episode, because this next week is

1202
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: basically like an ex extended spring training of the guys

1203
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: who have to prove themselves for these last final two spots.

1204
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: Whoever plays better, it's probably who's gonna come down to

1205
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: because the Mets just don't have a lot of optionable players.

1206
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially when the Met's most obvious optionable player is

1207
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 2: a Donis Medina, who came up and made a pitch

1208
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 2: very well in his Mess debut over this weekend against

1209
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 2: the Diamondbacks. He's probably gonna be optioned this week to

1210
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 2: make room for Taiwan Walker, who's going to pitch a

1211
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 2: sim game. I think it was today when you guys

1212
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 2: listening to this Monday or Tuesday in Saint Louis, and

1213
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 2: then he could make his turn through the rotation next weekend,

1214
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 2: which would be prett damn Cool'll get Taiwan back that

1215
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 2: quickly after such a nice debut from him. But other

1216
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 2: than Medina, there's three pitchers currently in the Mets roster

1217
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 2: with options, and they are Tyler McGill who's not being

1218
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 2: sent down, Seth Lugo who's not being sent down, and

1219
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 2: Drew Smith, who I hope won't be sent down, but

1220
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 2: he might end up just taking a week in the

1221
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 2: minor leagues just simply because of logistics. So the Mets

1222
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 2: don't have to cut either a Reid Folly or a

1223
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 2: Trevor Williams who will is likely to be picked up

1224
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 2: by another team.

1225
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: It feels like bad process to send down a better

1226
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: player because you don't want to lose a lesser pitcher.

1227
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: But we've seen crazier thing happen. Something will keep an

1228
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: eye out for. Definitely going on to this week. Let's

1229
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: talk about the next series though. Saint Louis Cardinals in

1230
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: Saint Louis, fucking hate playing.

1231
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 2: I hate them, hate this team, hate that ballpark. Stupid.

1232
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 2: I just want to beat them.

1233
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: It feels like every time we go to Saint Louis,

1234
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: it's just like there's going to be there's a lock

1235
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: for an extra inning game that's gonna go like fourteens.

1236
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: It's gonna happen now with these rules, No, the Mets

1237
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 1: will find a way. The Mets will find a way

1238
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: in Saint Louis to play fourteenth.

1239
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 2: Don't you remember that we had this conversation last year

1240
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 2: and then we debunked the myth that the Mets get

1241
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 2: crushed by the Cardinals in Saint Louis. The Met's actually

1242
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 2: the winning record against the Cardinals dating back like an

1243
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 2: entire decade.

1244
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I still don't believe that, even though

1245
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: even though I've seen it, I don't believe it because

1246
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 1: it really doesn't feel like every time we go there,

1247
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, it's just the Cardinal baseball. They're fucking annoying.

1248
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 2: And we also have a bad taste in our mouth

1249
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,919
Speaker 2: because last year, somehow the Cardinals broke our backs two

1250
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 2: separate times, one being that April May series that wind

1251
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 2: up getting Chilli Davis fired, and the second one being

1252
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 2: the series at home later in the year that killed

1253
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 2: the Mets entire season. So there's just the recency bias

1254
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 2: with this team, along with the deep history bias with

1255
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 2: this team. For older listeners out there thinking back to

1256
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 2: like the seventies, eighties, how much they hate the Cardinals,

1257
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 2: and just you and I and the people in our

1258
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 2: generation who remember two thousand and six, oh so unfondly.

1259
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 2: It's upsetting. And I really hate that stupid bird sitting

1260
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 2: on the bat, hate that dumb jersey, hate the way

1261
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 2: their fields looks so nice. All they're really kind stupid fans.

1262
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 2: I just want to beat this team. I'd like to

1263
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 2: beat this team three times, especially because their team we're

1264
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 2: going to be directly competing with this season, whether they

1265
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 2: they're not, there's no way the Cardinals, who were in

1266
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 2: first right now, run away with their division because the

1267
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 2: Brewers are too good of a team. So it's a

1268
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 2: good chance that the Mets are indirect competition with the Cardinals,

1269
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 2: whether it be in the playoffs or or the wild

1270
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 2: card race leading up to the playoffs. So winning these

1271
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 2: games is almost as important as winning your divisional games

1272
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 2: because of how directly we're gonna be competing with them.

1273
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 1: Definitely, And I mean gets started off nice for us.

1274
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: We get Max schers are going up against Miles Michaelis,

1275
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 1: which that's that's a check mark in the Mets department

1276
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: right there, of advantage, but.

1277
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 2: That's always how it goes. And then Miles michaels Is

1278
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 2: through six innings with three strikeouts, eight hard hit balls

1279
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 2: and no runs.

1280
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: Berto Castano version of Oh God.

1281
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 2: And then Tuesday night we have Chris Bassett on the

1282
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 2: mound against newly minted star the Jordan Hicks, who that's who.

1283
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 2: Did you see the way he looked against the Marlins

1284
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Speaker 2: last week?

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Speaker 1: I did not because I was interested. Was he still

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Speaker 1: throwing one hundred and twenty five miles an hour?

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Speaker 2: He cranked it up the ninety nine a few times,

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Speaker 2: especially early, but his slider was unbelievable, and he just

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Speaker 2: he looks like he can do this transition until his

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Speaker 2: arm blows again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want the arm blowing out, but I

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Speaker 1: also don't want him to be good against the Mets.

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Speaker 1: So hopefully the transition phase slows down a little bit

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Speaker 1: here against the New York Mets. Then Game three, big one.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for simply only one reason. That's Steven Mattz

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Speaker 1: is pitching against the Mets, and boy, oh boy, would

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Speaker 1: I love to just absolutely rock his bell.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's still basically the MVP of the Mets

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Speaker 2: team this year based on how much he motivated Steve going.

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Speaker 2: You get this bullet bulletin board material Steven Mattz. This

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Speaker 2: is he signed us max suers because he didn't even

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Speaker 2: call back the Mets to give them another chance to

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Speaker 2: make an offer. How dare the local Stephen Mattz apparently

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Speaker 2: a great guy off the field, but on the field

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Speaker 2: hasn't done much for the Mets.

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Speaker 1: Ever and although he might have helped them out here,

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Speaker 1: but I'd really love to just absolutely shell Steven Matts

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Speaker 1: in Game three with carrasco on the mound.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. It's also just cool to note when

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Speaker 2: you look at these three games, it looks like on paper,

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Speaker 2: it seems like the Mets have a pitching advantage in

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Speaker 2: all three games, So you have a pitching advantage in

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Speaker 2: all three games. Would hope to win at least two

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Speaker 2: of them, if not all three. If the Mets can

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Speaker 2: sweep the Cardinals, I'll jump up and down. The Mets

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Speaker 2: get swept by the Cardinals, I'm gonna bury myself in

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Speaker 2: a hole. But I look at these three matchups, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: all right, good. As long as everyone executes and we

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Speaker 2: play the same good baseball we have been playing, we

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Speaker 2: should be in position to win all of these games. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I will say we talked about how much bad

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Speaker 1: baseball Dinbacks play. The Cardinals will play good bass r

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Speaker 1: they play great defense, they run the bass as well.

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Speaker 1: These are all things that Keith is gonna just drool

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Speaker 1: over as a Cardinal Hall of Favorite as well as

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Speaker 1: that's just the stuff he really prioritizes in the game

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Speaker 1: of baseball is defensive base run.

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Speaker 2: And with that, the Cardinals have plenty of star powers

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Speaker 2: just between Tyler O'Neal, Paul Goldschmith, and Nolan Are and

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Speaker 2: who all. Goldschman's not really hitting that much this year

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Speaker 2: R and I was crushing the ball and Tyler O'Neal

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Speaker 2: is a in a man amongst boys on the baseball field.

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Speaker 2: He is shredded.

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Speaker 1: I guess rich yas he's absolute freak.

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Speaker 2: But I mean otherwise, like this isn't really anything to

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Speaker 2: watch for this series, Like we know how these Cardinals

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00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 2: players they're all veterans. Yeah, you're Molina, You're gonna see

1338
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Speaker 2: there's gonna be pictures of Wayne Wright and the dugouts

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Speaker 2: chewing gum like the asshole he is.

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Speaker 1: Like, thank god, that piece of kind of chalkd us

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Speaker 1: up for a.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. But just you're gonna see the names, you have,

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Speaker 2: the familiar faces, Harrison Bay, they're playing good center field,

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Speaker 2: Tommy Edmond playing good second base. Like this's just a

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Speaker 2: good team. They're a good team. They have nine or

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Speaker 2: ten wins as the stands right now, and don't remember

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Speaker 2: what happened on Sunday of them. But that's it. Just

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Speaker 2: get it is not we talked about last week being

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Speaker 2: a broma with the Giants. There's gonna be ano brom

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Speaker 2: and they're playing a team like the Cardinals, who's one

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Speaker 2: of those consistently good teams who's not going to make

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Speaker 2: a lot of mistakes for you to take advantage of

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Speaker 2: on the road as well.

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Speaker 1: Be nice to get another another series victory, especially on

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Speaker 1: the road in Saint Louis. And that's pretty much we're

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Speaker 1: gonna wrap up this episode here, guys. Not much else

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Speaker 1: to talk about here on episode number eighty six. Thank

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Speaker 1: you gus for listening, Thank you for watching. Make sure

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Speaker 1: help grow the podcast. Of course, shout out to the

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Speaker 1: seven Line for helping be a part of this podcast

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Speaker 1: as well. Follow me on Twitter at traffick, Mark James

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Speaker 1: at Jeter had no Range, and otherwise. We will talk

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Speaker 1: to you on the next episode to talk about the

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Speaker 1: Cardinal series and preview those filthy Phillies

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Speaker 2: Beat out guys, See you next time.