WEBVTT - Between Contractions 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:05.279 Wind Down with Janet Kramer, an impart radio podcast. 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:10.959 We're still here, somehow, someway, We're still here. 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:14.080 The baby's still in my belly for now, for now, 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:25.239 I mean as Sarah isn't a studio, our beloved Sarah 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:27.680 Cruise is in the studio for me, or as I 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:29.319 like to call her, Sarah Gretzky. That's what I have 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:30.000 you as on my phone. 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:30.360 I know. 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:33.240 But she just felt my contraction because I was trying. 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:35.239 I was like, I'm having a contraction. I'm having a contraction, 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:36.839 and you felt the difference. 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:40.560 Yeah, but it's freaking me out. 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:42.120 You're gonna be okay. 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:45.320 I don't know. I've been so stressed the last week. 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:48.200 But I feel like, why do people get so freaked 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:50.160 out about because I know a few of the people 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:52.520 that are so freaked about babies and bellies, like even 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:54.120 you like to this morning when I put your hand 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:55.480 on me, I was like, oh my god, feel this 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:56.240 I feeling. 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:57.920 It's not as bad as when you see it and 0:00:58.080 --> 0:00:59.760 looks like an alien coming out of it. 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:02.760 Really was like that is he like this pumping me? 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:03.320 Yeah? 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:06.399 Literally? Yeah. I think it's when you can't relate, like 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:08.199 when you talk to try and talk to guys about 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:11.319 like a period, you know, no, Like that's why it 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:13.679 freaks me out because I can't really like because I don't. 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:15.399 I didn't pay attention And. 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:16.760 Do you want to you want to be a mom though? 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:20.280 Oh obviously yeah, But like I just it's just it 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:22.959 went from like soft and then it got hard and 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:24.440 then I'm afraid you're going to pee it out? 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:27.920 That's right? Remember weird? Oh God, Sarah and I went 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:30.080 to remember when we went to Vegas that was so 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:34.720 much fun Heart Radio Festival, and. 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:35.880 She goes, I was just tak care of her daughter. 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:40.360 You were on a golf trip. Wow. 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:43.240 Want to hear it? 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:46.360 Yeah, with your dad, that's right. So no, you weren't 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:47.400 home taking care of the kid. 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:49.280 A very expensive golf trip. 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:54.200 Yeah. And so but Sarah is like just standing out 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:55.760 the window. I thought she was going to have something 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:58.760 like really just like special to say I was. 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:00.560 I was literally, No, you went to the bathroom and 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:02.040 then you came out, and while you were in there, 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:03.120 I was just thinking. 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:05.040 Yeah, and this is what this is a thought that 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:07.000 came to Sarah's brain. Would you like to say, ut mes, 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:09.280 do you actually want to resay what you said, or I. 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:11.880 Mean, I literally stand by it. I was curious if 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:15.280 you ever felt or if someone has ever pooped out 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:15.880 their baby. 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:22.560 What And that's exactly my response back, what why would 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:25.040 you think you can't poop? First of all, your hole, 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:26.920 your poop hole is different than your vaginal. 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:30.000 I understand that. However, it's all just I don't know. 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:32.519 You're squatting. Things are happening. Don't you like pee yourself 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:33.560 sometimes and you don't. 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:34.720 Know, well. 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:38.280 Sometimes, yeah, that can happen. 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:40.800 I just didn't know, you know, saying it's all attached, 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:41.440 So I don't know. 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:43.520 So like when I'm so like when I'm pushing like 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:45.400 out my poop, you're afraid that I'm gonna push my 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:45.919 baby out? 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:46.239 Yes? 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:49.280 No, Mark, why are you nodding head over there? 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:51.320 I just see what she's saying. That's all I'm trying 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:52.800 to think, because I get it. 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:54.960 Yeah, you're using the same muscles to push out your 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:57.160 poop and your baby. Well, isn't it like not your 0:02:57.200 --> 0:02:59.040 babies can come through your hiking up? 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:01.960 She literally just put her leg on. 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:03.640 I just feel like it's like ready position. 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:05.160 I mean, he is had down. 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:07.919 There's news reports of women giving birth and bathroom stalls. 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:09.040 That's crazy. 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:10.280 I assume that's what happened. 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:11.280 They pushed too hard. 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:13.720 I mean, you're a lot stronger than you think. 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:14.600 It is true. 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:15.360 That is true. 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:16.800 You know what I would love if you pooped out 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:18.560 your baby. That would be great. I just think that 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:21.600 would be just a great three sixty karma. I mean 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:23.320 switching gears. 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:24.919 Thank you, thank you. 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:28.760 It's obviously been a total devastation here in California with 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:32.280 the wildfires, and our hearts go out to all the 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:37.240 family members and the houses and just everything that Northern 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:40.280 California and here in southern California that you know, people 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:43.000 have been dealing with the fires. Sarah has an interesting 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:45.120 story that happened to her regarding the fires. 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:47.640 Yeah, it was crazy. So the night before was actually 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:52.280 the shooting up Orlin, which is I can't even devastating, but. 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:57.320 I live there. The shooter lived a block away from No. 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:02.120 Yeah, so ty well, boyfriend, So did you ever know 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:03.080 did you ever meet. 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:04.960 Him or never met him and didn't know his mom 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:06.920 or anything? But I know the house, like when I 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:09.040 saw the house, like, oh yeah, walk past that house 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:10.920 walking my dog every single day. 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:14.320 Oh my god, I haven't seen the news around the parents, 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:16.000 how were they did? 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:18.359 The main thing with this guy seems to be although 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:20.279 now high school friends if they're saying he was aggressive 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:21.760 in high school, but a lot of people as saying 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:23.400 that he was a marine and when he got back 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:25.320 he was not the same anymore. And we all know 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:28.320 that different people react differently to the shovel of trauma. 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:31.440 And he was infantry like machine gun, hamler like he 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:33.560 was in it. Yeah, So I don't know how much 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:35.719 you blame the mom how much? Like I think there's 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:37.880 a natural instinct to blame him or the mom or 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:39.960 somebody or society or whatever it is. I don't know 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:41.200 who to blame in this situation. 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:42.160 It's just sad. 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:44.400 It's just so sad all around. 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:47.880 Said, Yeah, but ties from there and his family lives there. 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:50.560 So the night before we woke up to I mean, 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:53.640 I had fifteen miss calls he had and you pan it. 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:56.080 I mean, I don't now, I know what my mom 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:57.479 would always say, like, you know, when you get a 0:04:57.480 --> 0:04:58.560 phone call in the middle of the night, she's just 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:00.440 never and I'm like, who could be what could be 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:02.080 going on? And it was his mom calling us, you know, 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:05.080 are you okay? As everyone okay telling us about the shooting. 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:09.160 And then the next night we wake up again just 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:11.839 so many phone calls and our dogs are going crazy. 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:13.360 And then I started freaking out. I'm like, is there 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:15.640 an earthquake? What's going on? And I go to our 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:17.200 front door and his whole family is there. 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:18.800 Wayne Gretzky is standing out the front. 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:21.120 Yes, his whole family showed up to our apartment, which 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:22.599 is not very big, and they're like, we had to 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:25.960 evacuate the fun and it was just like, oh, it's 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:28.400 just so much, and it's one of those things where 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:29.880 you never think it could happen, and then all of 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:32.880 a sudden, like, I'm making coffee. It was three day out. 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:34.960 Did how does Wayne Gretzky like his coffee? 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:35.120 He? 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:37.000 Oh, my god, So. 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:40.800 You have to make him breakfast? Do know? 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:43.960 They were actually the best because Ty and I were like, uh, 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:45.000 make yourselves at home. 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:47.440 By the way, it wasn't just Wayne, it was it was. 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:51.359 Wayne and his mom and his two little siblings and 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:55.000 his uncle and the tennis coach. And so we show 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:57.040 up in the morning and they all they were like, 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:58.599 we had to evacuate. We got on the road, we 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:00.960 got out of there, and so I made them coffee. 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:04.920 He liked it with half in half, but I accidentally 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:06.640 put in sweet cream. 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:07.520 Dare you? 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:11.520 He literally he goes, this is the best coffee ever. 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:14.440 And Janet goes, what did you put in it? And 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:17.240 I go sweet cream and she goes, well, the way 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:20.520 that's why it was like, he goes, I said half 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:21.880 in half, and I was like, yeah, I don't know 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:23.800 if you we have nothing, and I mean, we're never 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:26.160 we don't have anything, but they were so I mean 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:28.400 we were like, okay, we went back to sleep, and 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:30.760 then we woke up and his mom got us flowers 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:33.120 and like she stalked our fridge, and I was like, really, 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:35.919 I know, but I'm like, you guys are the one. Like, 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:37.920 I mean, they didn't sleep at all. They stayed up 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:40.080 all night watching the news tracking it because they couldn't 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:43.240 even they couldn't even think. And and then of course 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:46.600 they're just you know, parents, and their house is fine. 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:48.520 They're okay, they've been there. 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:51.039 Were about their neighborhood. We've been that any house in 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:51.600 that neighborhood. 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:54.040 No, but it was crazy. His brother was putting up videos. 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:55.480 So remember the lake. I don't know if you guys 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:58.600 saw the lake. Did you see So they were getting 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:00.640 helicopters were going in there getting water. 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:01.880 Yeah, the big long tubes. 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:05.120 And it was crazy because his brother was like documenting 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:09.080 it on Instagram all you know, all day Wow, but 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:11.360 it was crazy. But it changes so much. But I'm 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:13.920 pretty sure, Yeah, everything lifted and they're fine to be 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:14.400 there now. 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:17.320 I felt like, i mean, even with just the shooting 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:20.360 and the fires, I felt so helpless, like not being 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:22.360 able to do something like I wanted to be able to. 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:24.160 It's the worst we were talking. 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:25.880 I mean, I know, yeah you came over right there, 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:28.000 Yeah you were Yeah, you came over that next morning 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.240 and I was like, man, I know, I'm like ten 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:32.920 months pregnant basically, but I wish I could go help 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:34.480 put out fires. But you just kind of feel so 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:38.000 helpless sitting in your cozy little home. Yeah, Christmas separation. 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:38.400 Guilty. 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:41.880 You know. It's like it's the similar feeling of like 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:43.400 if you go to a third world country, right and 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:45.640 do like a charity thing like was ding to, you know, hunters, 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:47.880 stuff like that, and then you come back you feel 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:50.240 guilty for having what you have when really you just 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:52.440 wanted you should just appreciate it more it's like the 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:54.400 same thing. It's like we feel bad. You know, we're 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:57.880 talking outside here about people who you know, they have 0:07:57.920 --> 0:07:59.720 homes and they're the only four homes at the entire 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:02.400 namehood that you know didn't catch fire. It's like, do 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:05.040 you feel bad walking into your house? You know you 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:07.559 can only do so much to get back to people. 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:10.120 I feel like it's just a heavy feeling for everyone. 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:10.920 It is. It is. 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:14.520 It's so speaking of underrest, do you remember when we 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:17.920 took out the water the water capsule in the shower. 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:22.720 We wanted more water to come out. You're a terrible 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:26.920 person bringing that up or are you not remembering? 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:29.280 You for you telling me to do that? This is 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:29.960 all you're doing. 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.520 It's like there's not enough water, Like there's like. 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:36.040 Water restrictors, water restrictors in like this hotel that we 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:40.679 were in, and Jana is like, I need more. Okay, Well, 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:43.000 if you guys want to donate it all and help 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:45.439 out with people out here suffering from the fires, if 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:48.160 you text the words red Cross to nine oh nine 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:51.840 nine nine, that's an automatic ten dollars donation, just you know, 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:54.160 to help. Every little bit helps. To this point, people 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:57.680 have lost everything, lots of people. So again, text Red 0:08:57.679 --> 0:08:58.840 Cross to nine oh. 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:00.760 Nine nine nine what you drink and your ten dollars 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:02.840 latte from Starbucks? You could have given that to the 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:03.480 fire people. 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:04.240 Yeah. 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:07.880 Yes, make people real guilty for drinking their morning coffee. 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:09.480 I know, it's what we just talked about. 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:11.679 Shoot, No, we were so kilt. 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:12.680 Yeah. 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:14.600 Hey Sarah, you still don't have a ring on your finger? 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:14.840 No? 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:17.200 I don't, Okay, moving on. 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:20.319 Moving on, all right. So, one of the things that 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:22.560 Michael and I are now loving in our house is 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:25.360 our Amazon Fire TV. 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And 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:59.440 some that we should keep presents on hand for Jolie 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:01.840 because no one's going to bring presents for Joeli. So 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:04.960 we have a friend that just had a new baby 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:05.840 and they've got two. 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:07.560 Girls and this is their third. 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:09.839 This is their third, and so I was like, oh, 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:11.800 this is a perfect opportunity for us to be able 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:14.640 to bring the presence for their two girls on top 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:17.320 of their baby, you know, And so go ahead. 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:19.840 And this is an old work buddy of mine, okay, 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:24.320 a friendship that I value. And I asked Janna, I said, hey, 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:26.440 when you go get something, because she was running out 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:27.839 to this little cute store of our house to get 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:30.400 something for the infant, I said, hey, can you just 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:33.880 grab a bag, like there's like a present bag to 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:36.040 put these other presents in? Because I didn't want to 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:37.640 show up in like the store bag that we got 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:39.280 them in, like plastic bag. I didn't want to carry 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:41.800 a boy themselves. I just wanted a nice bag just 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:43.520 to carry in. Just that's it. I don't want to 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:47.160 carry the two presents under our arms. Yeah, and Janet 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:47.800 didn't get. 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:51.600 One because what there's no reason? 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:54.480 Okay, but I didn't add real quick. And I was 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:56.080 thinking about this yesterday and I actually kind of like, 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:58.000 I was it bothered you? It really did bother me 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:01.320 because I was the car it didn't. I wasn't asking, 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:03.320 like what do you think should we do this? I 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:06.040 asked her, I said, can you please get this bag? Yeah, 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:08.360 I would like to put these other presents for the 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:09.960 girls in this bag, but we. 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:11.920 Already went out of our way to get a present 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:13.599 for them. It doesn't make the girls don't care that 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:16.120 they're wrapped or in presence. 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:18.360 It's just about that I asked you for that. 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:21.080 I understand that, but it's just and I get that, 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:24.520 and I apologize that I didn't because you did ask 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:26.640 me for what you wanted. But in my and I 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:28.240 and I didn't do it, and I should have just 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:30.560 done it. But in my head, I'm like, we went 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:33.360 out of our way to get them presents for the girls. 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:37.760 I have the other stuff wrapped really pretty, so you know, 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:42.640 who cares if the little Barbie doll play sets for 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:45.640 the two girls aren't wrapped. They're just gonna be happy 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:48.480 that they got something. But then he was just, you 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:49.480 know again, He's like, but I. 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:51.640 Asked for so did you not do it because you 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:53.160 like didn't feel like it, or you were tired or 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:53.880 you didn't have time. 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:55.920 No, I just I really just didn't think that it 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:57.000 was important. 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:58.640 Which I wasn't asking for opinion. 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:00.080 I asked her as to do it. 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:03.079 Please get this while you're at the store. He didn't 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:05.920 and so, but I appreciate your apologizing today because when 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:07.720 we went over it, she didn't apologize. 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:12.240 Well, I just didn't, you know, because if you would 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:16.160 have asked him, I'm just in the middle because I'm 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:19.880 the same like if ty Sarah continue, But would you 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:20.719 be that mad or no? 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:23.880 Yes, I would be mad because I asked for what 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:26.439 I wanted and I didn't. Because there's times when he's 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:29.760 like let me, I'm like, no, I don't need you 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:31.400 to carry this like I got it. If I will, 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:33.079 I'll ask you if I need something. 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:35.600 Like are you mad that you asked her to do 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:37.880 something and she didn't? Or are you mad that she 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:40.160 that it didn't look nice and it wasn't pretty and. 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:43.040 Round it came down to you. I was mad that 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:45.560 I just I asked her straight out what I wanted 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:48.559 and needed and then she used her own opinion about 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:51.120 it and decided against it, And I was like, I 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:53.000 didn't ask for your opinion. I asked, did you get 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:54.920 this a two dollars bag? 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:57.199 So I'm psycho because I think I would be mad 0:13:57.240 --> 0:13:59.160 that it didn't look pretty and nice and perfect? 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:01.760 But who cares? We have to bring the present presence 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:03.640 it was nearly them. It was a nice stretch that 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:06.200 we've brought the presence that we thought that nobody else 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:09.360 would bring presence for the toddlers. We were bringing presents 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:11.559 for the baby. You already went above and beyond. Yeah, 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:14.000 so I'm like, why get the stupid bag with the fluff. 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:19.000 We don't care what is stupid? A great transition into 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:23.400 our guests, Hillary, and we have can you help us 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:25.760 because we clearly need a little issue. We have a 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:26.560 little issue. 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:28.720 Here, and give our listeners kind of your background real 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:31.240 quick so they can understand how awesome you are. 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:32.360 Yeah. 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:36.240 I'm doctor Hillary Goulcher, and I have a private practice 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:36.960 in Beverly Hills. 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:39.560 I'm a licensed clinical psychologist. 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:41.480 And I work a lot with couples, and I work 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:44.840 a lot with couples in the public eye. And I 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:50.479 work on other stuff too, trauma and anxiety, depression, eating disorders, 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.960 parenting stuff, all sorts of things. So I have a 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:55.640 practice in Beverly Hills, and I do a lot of 0:14:56.280 --> 0:15:01.400 media stuff, sort of local media and the news, CNN, 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:03.200 Fox and commenting on. 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:07.560 Various psychological issues. From a therapist perspective. 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:09.760 How could I have done better? Should I have just 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:13.880 gotten the bag, even though I didn't agree with the 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:15.800 extra few bucks that we should just spend because we 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:18.600 already went above and not like because he asked for it, 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:19.480 should I have just done it? 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:22.160 You know, I think we have to step back for 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:24.760 a moment because I think it's more of a good 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.160 will issue. That's kind of what's coming up for me, 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:29.760 because it like from the outsider, it's kind of such 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:30.520 a small thing. 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:33.000 But if there were enough good will. 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:35.120 Between you two, and like, this is my first time 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:37.840 with you, I know a little bit about your history 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:40.760 from listening to a couple of the last podcasts, so 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:44.640 that's a limited but still, but if they're a little 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:46.920 more good will, this would come easier for you to 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:51.000 you know what I mean. Like he would have said, yeah, 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:52.520 I prefer them this way, and you would have been 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:55.560 like okay, because like there's enough emotional like money in 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:58.120 the bank, but it doesn't trigger you, you know what 0:15:58.120 --> 0:15:59.560 I mean, And there's enough good will where you're like 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:02.080 it's not iportant to me, it's important to him, So like. 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:03.640 I'm not going to choose this time to stay on 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.120 ground to be like this is ridiculous. 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:10.360 And it seems like there's enough tension between you guys 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:13.520 in the last period of your life, that there's not 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:16.560 an immediate good will that you lean into. 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:19.120 We're depositing in the bank more now. 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:21.960 But that's a great point, right, That's what it sounds like. 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:24.440 You guys are on the upswing. Yeah, but I mean, 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:28.000 like you know, so your question, I mean, sure, probably 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:32.480 maybe you should have done that since he specifically asked, Hey, 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:34.560 this might seem small to you, Well, maybe you didn't 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:35.880