Speaker 1: He is drinks chests, motherfucking podcasts. He's a legends every
Speaker 1: Queens rapper. He ain't sagreed as your boy in O
Speaker 1: R E. He's a Miami hip hop pioneer put up
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Speaker 1: f N. That's the tap the crazy world rink chaps. Now,
Speaker 1: now we got two legends. I did not see this
Speaker 1: collaboration come in. I heard the album, and the album
Speaker 1: sounds exactly how I I thought it was supposed to
Speaker 1: sound like hip hop, and I think you got even
Speaker 1: a record that called two thousand. Now that's what the funk.
Speaker 1: This shit sounds like. It sounds like nineties now like
Speaker 1: the nineties is. Now we got one of the best
Speaker 1: producers of all times of the one of the producers
Speaker 1: that's on my first album. He got to know the
Speaker 1: very first, I wasn't even normy. I believe I was
Speaker 1: component Noriega. Like I believe they called us Compona Noriega,
Speaker 1: like if we didn't have a Noriega by myself and
Speaker 1: he didn't have a compone by myself. And then we
Speaker 1: got motherfucking one of the best lyricists in the world.
Speaker 1: He's been getting money taking labels checks for a long time, sir,
Speaker 1: And we're gonna get into it because he had a
Speaker 1: fight with Shack on the shoulder recently, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: get into it. I want to know how did this happen?
Speaker 1: What a job? Record a record and just said keep
Speaker 1: it going. Nah, Actually it was. It was just shout
Speaker 1: out to Shaw. It was his cat from from overseas.
Speaker 1: He's just like, Yo, you're my favorite Rappo. Buck's my
Speaker 1: favorite producer. My dream is that y'all do a project.
Speaker 1: And we started to do it with him. I'm like, Buck,
Speaker 1: you with it. He said he had some money when
Speaker 1: it was come time, it was coming, it was going through.
Speaker 1: This guy started. This is like two thousand and seventeen.
Speaker 1: He was funding it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we funded it.
Speaker 1: This was like twenty seventeen. What's his name.
Speaker 2: They start Okay, it.
Speaker 1: Was like twenty seventeen, so I mean, Buck went in.
Speaker 1: We did.
Speaker 2: We did a couple of records.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, Buck, these Ships is coming out five,
Speaker 1: so don't really got if we can't really fund this
Speaker 1: project the right way, we're gonna do it ourselves. Let
Speaker 1: me let me any of those records on the album
Speaker 1: all they all okay, okay, years ago, cool, cool.
Speaker 2: The hell out of here, get out of here.
Speaker 1: We had it like two records at the end. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the beauty of it sounds right now, it sounds
Speaker 1: like we got done. Buck. I'm like, we could still
Speaker 1: listen to this ship after the million the times we
Speaker 1: heard it, and it's still so good. Right, we got
Speaker 1: some I'm saying, that's what I know. And obviously this
Speaker 1: is independent, yeah yeah, sure came out through Tech nine
Speaker 1: and Travis so Gwynn oh yeah, Virget distribution, RGI, the
Speaker 1: group and we flew out there and meet with Tech
Speaker 1: and them niggas like eight twenty seventeen, like and this
Speaker 1: is just coming down there, man, you gotta start putting
Speaker 1: music out. Did the deal with straight finished the project,
Speaker 1: like no a good good music last, and it's like
Speaker 1: it's toimless. It's like you could put it on it
Speaker 1: and it's like, yo, you know what eight years from
Speaker 1: now and it's like and Norman, this would be like, yo, mom,
Speaker 1: if you drop Normy's songs, like you know, all the
Speaker 1: Pharrell's songs, like every Snory song from the nineties, like
Speaker 1: it's Thomass ye yeah, yea. Because I'm what the call
Speaker 1: came on the other day on the radio when your
Speaker 1: girl was looking, Oh yeah, I like this right, no
Speaker 1: age he tell me ask you buck. You know our
Speaker 1: brother Fad. Joe has a great show that's happening right now,
Speaker 1: Joe and Jada. The biggest thing about Joe is everyone
Speaker 1: says he's capping. He was just talking about that. You
Speaker 1: know him for years, you know how longer than not
Speaker 1: talking about that. What do you a? No cap? No
Speaker 1: cat's exaggeration. It's not that. It's not it's a little
Speaker 1: wight exaggeration, yeah, like ten percent, but it's no cat.
Speaker 1: It's no cat. Yeah. People eat it up. People be like, yo,
Speaker 1: you know what, yo, what that nigga is capping? Like
Speaker 1: he's leaning into that point. It's somebody on the internet
Speaker 1: right now that says that they're his uncle. And I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it is or not, Like uncle,
Speaker 1: you got to stop. And it's like it's so interesting.
Speaker 1: I click on another car and I don't want to
Speaker 1: ask to him. I don't want to ask the guy.
Speaker 1: But so you say, Joe's no cap, no cat man. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: let's let's let's give one story though, all old stories.
Speaker 1: I believe ninety nine percent of them, just the high
Speaker 1: school one.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I wanted to the bar.
Speaker 1: I want years old. He said niggas was helping him
Speaker 1: carry the ship out, like niggas helped me around. But
Speaker 1: I believe that, you know, right right, wanted he wasn't
Speaker 1: one of the niggas. We want to do two different schools.
Speaker 1: But it's like, yo, I believe, like you know a
Speaker 1: lot of that because you know, some exaggeration like ten
Speaker 1: percent sprinkler sauce to make people be like, oh you
Speaker 1: know he's tapping. Everybody knows Fat Joe serious dude, had
Speaker 1: always been a serious guy. Back then it was game.
Speaker 1: It was a fat gangster. He's a skinny got what Yeah,
Speaker 1: niggas stuck up as because you gotta be a foul
Speaker 1: dude to distick up your cousin come bro that's the
Speaker 1: Brox like living in the Bronx like Yo, this this happens,
Speaker 1: but like you know when the original Bronx. But when
Speaker 1: we met like in Queens like Yo, that was like Yo,
Speaker 1: you know, was spooky and I'm like spooky like Yo.
Speaker 1: Those dudes is dangerous, like Yo foul because they've been
Speaker 1: in jail, been in jail like you. But it's like
Speaker 1: you're your your bond together, you know. So with meeting
Speaker 1: spooky like Yo, this is I was like Yo, this
Speaker 1: place is like Yo.
Speaker 2: That Frank is just like Yo block exactly.
Speaker 1: But let me ask you being a part of that
Speaker 1: legendary crew d I T C, Like how did that
Speaker 1: even come about? Huhm? It started with show Bus and Akay, Showman,
Speaker 1: Diamond show A Diamond show before was yeah before and
Speaker 1: then Finesse they did Finess album and we're doing Finess
Speaker 1: album and that's what signa. You know, it's a wild
Speaker 1: pitch and search right yeah no no, no, not search
Speaker 1: like it's too fun. Oh yeah. The album they did
Speaker 1: the album for like five hundred dollars is like technician
Speaker 1: peanuts and it's like yo ag was introduced to show
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And then you got Showman
Speaker 1: a G and it's like he met from battling thing,
Speaker 1: battling finesse.
Speaker 2: Who battle for.
Speaker 1: That's yeah a G Okay okay, it's like Payton versus Okay.
Speaker 1: You know, so you know, you see what you've got.
Speaker 1: You know, he spit and you know, a G spit
Speaker 1: and you know, back and forth, and you know it's
Speaker 1: like yo, he nice and matter of fact, everybody came
Speaker 1: like after like me big al oh, fat Joey, Fat
Speaker 1: Joe was.
Speaker 2: So who was the first people it was?
Speaker 3: It was he said Diamond, Diamond, and.
Speaker 1: You know Diamond bought fat Joeman and before a G, No,
Speaker 1: we skipped a G. When a g ag is like
Speaker 1: the same time, okay, okay, okay, and like me O
Speaker 1: c big alcause you know, all the rest of them
Speaker 1: is like yo, that's that's history. And then Premiere came
Speaker 1: down the line mans like yo, Man is like the original. Okay.
Speaker 1: So when they did Funky Technician from always thought this,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah that was only DJs knew that ship Man,
Speaker 1: you slip in the bronx, get the fun out of here.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: This is this is the hip I breaking news he
Speaker 1: went to the Bronx had but it's like Brooklyn and
Speaker 1: then it's like he lived in maybe Ogden Avenue in
Speaker 1: the Bronx and that that was it. Oh I never
Speaker 1: knew that. I know, he's part of digging in the
Speaker 1: crazy crazy And then who came up with the name,
Speaker 1: who said, let's call this collective d I T C.
Speaker 1: I think that came from from Showman Diamond digging, you know,
Speaker 1: like finding out you know, oh we're digging. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: we're digging in the crates and you know it's stuck.
Speaker 1: M legends were born. But you know, cool for real,
Speaker 1: Like that's always like a staple where it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: we did correct. It's it's like no cap no, you
Speaker 1: know how you say nor ship. It's like they want
Speaker 1: to have the but we want to have the best
Speaker 1: beats and the best songs.
Speaker 2: And it's like that's what it is he.
Speaker 1: Did for Crates dig four Crates Crates Ship. But I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know different, but I say legendary.
Speaker 1: So boom, let's take it to you. So, so how
Speaker 1: did you how did you get started in this game?
Speaker 2: I just man, I got started.
Speaker 1: Pain. We know that you was and it was it
Speaker 1: was right now. I was Yeah, I was in the
Speaker 1: jail house group called seven up. He was like, who tang?
Speaker 1: Who called seven? It was all God body, That's why
Speaker 1: seven might work. Still to this day, I'm telling the
Speaker 1: gods got was missing in the game. That really is
Speaker 1: what's missing. I was just crazy that whole area everybody
Speaker 1: came through that made the impact with God. Body, make
Speaker 1: sure we get back to the beginning, because I just
Speaker 1: wanted to say something listening to this album the one
Speaker 1: man the Crazy Ship that I learned listen to this
Speaker 1: album and learned listening to your music, is that Tupac
Speaker 1: would have been your friend? Oh yeah, I would. I
Speaker 1: like listening to all your ship knowing that we had
Speaker 1: your book, and I was like, Yo, Sa gone in
Speaker 1: a crazy world gone, True life Tupac and I forget
Speaker 1: the two others that I named. It's like it's the
Speaker 1: Gasters street guys, but they have none and they're telling
Speaker 1: you don't like, don't your brother man. It's like it's
Speaker 1: like it's funny with true life. People don't know his
Speaker 1: name stand for the Righteous, uniting those living in the
Speaker 1: fantasy environment about that's the street bar. Actually like I
Speaker 1: loved music, like he got records with Jay Niles together,
Speaker 1: Snoop and all this, and I'll be just looking at
Speaker 1: him sometimes like how the funk? You don't put this out? Still,
Speaker 1: like you don't put it out like but if you
Speaker 1: listen to like he be dropping knowledge, you think it
Speaker 1: like it was so but Puerto Rican godbout it? What
Speaker 1: do you think? What do you think life would have
Speaker 1: been like had Tupac been alive during during your era?
Speaker 1: I wish because he had that lane open for that
Speaker 1: kind of ship. Like you was listening to more music.
Speaker 1: It wasn't just about no real you know, drill tough ship,
Speaker 1: trap ship. It was more so you had to have
Speaker 1: some kind of message ship. And that's what hip hop was. Man.
Speaker 2: When we grew up on hip hop, we were.
Speaker 1: Listening to ex claim and ship like that. They came
Speaker 1: about reading I went to school talking about he was like,
Speaker 1: I know, I was saying, we used to brag about
Speaker 1: having no gold with downions, no gold, no pig, Somebney
Speaker 1: buddy him with some black ship and then brand Nubian brand.
Speaker 1: You look at poor righteous teacher hell those guys. So
Speaker 1: that's when I was looking up to their motherfuckers like yo,
Speaker 1: even though I was in the street D four woundand
Speaker 1: doing dumb ship when I got when I picked up
Speaker 1: a pen, I was like, you know, try to be
Speaker 1: like one of these motherfuckerdrop. I thought I was one
Speaker 1: of the Jungle Brothers and some ship and they just
Speaker 1: never left. Like so when I as I evolved, I
Speaker 1: just kept I kept happening and I had to have
Speaker 1: social commentary in my ship. And another thing that happened
Speaker 1: in jail one time one day because I did have
Speaker 1: the gangster ship when they am in the yard and
Speaker 1: I'm your father, Yeah, I was in there killing you'll only.
Speaker 2: Go bust my gun.
Speaker 1: It was ship and they walked up and he's like, yo,
Speaker 1: you like to hear something because everything you rabbing got
Speaker 1: your monkey ass in here? He said, you like, yo,
Speaker 1: what I like it in here? Like I said, you
Speaker 1: like your hair. I never heard the nigga say like
Speaker 1: your hair, you know. And I was like, hey, fuck
Speaker 1: like and ship for the birds. He was like, well,
Speaker 1: you spend everything that got you up in here. Everything
Speaker 1: you talk about is the reason you hear right. I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: I never looked at it like that, And that made
Speaker 1: me kind of be conscious to that when I was
Speaker 1: writing ROMs, like, you know what, because it's kids that
Speaker 1: look up to us, kids emulate us, and they want
Speaker 1: to be like us. So I'm like, I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: a little bit conscious of it. So there was a balance,
Speaker 1: like and honestly, when I went full positive, that's when
Speaker 1: my career went tank. That's when niggas, you can't go
Speaker 1: full positive. Now you can't like the preacher. I gotta
Speaker 1: believe the preacher. I got to see the smoke a
Speaker 1: joint like like you know what I'm saying, Like I
Speaker 1: got like, you can't do you can't be perfect, Like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like Twin Twin saying Friday
Speaker 1: like I only trusted when he asks for some bod
Speaker 1: I was like, all, I trust a preacher, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, yeah, you got to have a
Speaker 1: little bit. That's why five was thirteen X was very successful.
Speaker 1: There was thirty X did not go to the people
Speaker 1: who were perfect, right to the people who was mistaken,
Speaker 1: who were mistaken, and so easy to fix a person
Speaker 1: who already has a mistake that you identified that mistake,
Speaker 1: so you know what I mean. So that's the reason
Speaker 1: why teach niggas math for dice. So niggas thought they
Speaker 1: was gambling, but he's teaching the mathematics. Wow, sitting there
Speaker 1: thinking they're gambling, but he's teaching the mathematics, that's saying.
Speaker 1: So he was using Yeah, he was using the that
Speaker 1: they to really give the mathematics. What's interesting? What's the
Speaker 1: bronx really? Uh? The city of the Gods at one point? Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so Joe, Joe ain't capped with that crack, but they
Speaker 1: probably was calling him that because it's like he's from Godsville. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, Forrest is like that's the name,
Speaker 1: and it's like, yo, he had a rep. And it's
Speaker 1: like the rep grew bigger, and it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: like he grew bigger, and it's like, Yo, that's exploded.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Right right, let's make some
Speaker 1: noise for the god crack came along. Man. That's a
Speaker 1: good context. It is well because when you put it
Speaker 1: in that perspective, I can see it, like you can
Speaker 1: see that, like you said, god, body everybody know Joe,
Speaker 1: like Joe hung with like pistols from my block. Yeah,
Speaker 1: piece from my block and which one here? Black on
Speaker 1: the black okay, Latin one. Yeah, but the reckless Pistol Pete,
Speaker 1: like Pete went to jails like fucking you know, in
Speaker 1: and out of jail. It's like all of them, all them
Speaker 1: dudes with like yo, you know from this like you
Speaker 1: know they are you know, they are like Joe and
Speaker 1: it's like Joe saved like Pistol, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like yo, he was like yo, you know what when
Speaker 1: Pistol came home, Like I went to the studio to
Speaker 1: see game and I was like, yo, what's good, like
Speaker 1: you know, YadA, YadA, YadA, So like yo, you know what.
Speaker 1: It was dope because it's like stay out. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was his like even though like you know, he would
Speaker 1: do things like Yo, this is this is this is
Speaker 1: where you want to be, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And that's it all right and now you're killing all
Speaker 1: the rats kills. Didn't you work on Sean album? Yeah?
Speaker 1: How is that like?
Speaker 2: Working with Sean?
Speaker 1: Sean is? Sean is real cool? Like he'd be by
Speaker 1: himself Sean. Yeah, okay, he shot to Jamal Jamal's kids
Speaker 1: from Jamal Barrows.
Speaker 2: He was a wild kay though he was always a
Speaker 2: little recles.
Speaker 1: But all of all the known rappers like Famous from Bronx, no,
Speaker 1: not from Bronx New York, like you like all of
Speaker 1: them famous, like yo, they put him work right, and
Speaker 1: it's like that's the thing where it's like now rappers
Speaker 1: would be like yo, you know what I'm rapping. Now,
Speaker 1: It's like yo, let me go put and work. But
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, I didn't supposed to work before that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you waschool like hustling backwards way back.
Speaker 2: He doesn't exist anymore. I understood that.
Speaker 1: I was on the phone with Max B yesterday two
Speaker 1: days ago, and Max we was on phone for.
Speaker 2: About hour and a half.
Speaker 1: Bro like just and he like, yo, Bro, I gave
Speaker 1: seventy seventy five years.
Speaker 2: Man, he had year I had say.
Speaker 1: Like right, he did twelve twelve now like I got
Speaker 1: eight weeks left by years.
Speaker 2: He just you know, he laughed like he.
Speaker 1: Wullieve that, sis, I said, yo, And he did it
Speaker 1: eight piece before he became Max B. So he did
Speaker 1: eight years, came home, got home and then got caught
Speaker 1: up in that ship. So God just God gave him
Speaker 1: another shot, like we had him on drink champs, and
Speaker 1: I asked him. I was like, you think you can compete?
Speaker 1: And I don't think he liked that question. But it's
Speaker 1: an honest answer, right, because when you were in jail,
Speaker 1: like like one thing about Sean, he was just speaking
Speaker 1: about Shine like it the the first records, Like you
Speaker 1: could tell College kind of rushed the record.
Speaker 2: You could tell that Sean had a step behind.
Speaker 1: You could tell like if he gets if you if
Speaker 1: you waited two more weeks, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And like a similar So that's the thing. What do
Speaker 1: you think about maxb You know what I heard? I
Speaker 1: heard some music he's been doing in there because he
Speaker 1: got a studio and shipping. Then he got got a
Speaker 1: whole studio in itself. Bro the nigga.
Speaker 2: He got some fire ship Bro, and he's like, I.
Speaker 1: Got four hundred quality songs like bullshit, not a bunch
Speaker 1: of He's like, I got quality records. He's gonna do
Speaker 1: good because people as anticipating them. But the song I
Speaker 1: heard sound great, like he sounds he didn't miss a step,
Speaker 1: you know, sound like you know vibs Cartel had studios
Speaker 1: that Bob had pro to videos. Girl, you know I
Speaker 1: didn't realize how big he was until he can't until
Speaker 1: he got out. Jet I knew he was popping when
Speaker 1: he got out and he sold out the motherfucking Barclays
Speaker 1: in the garden. I'm like, let me, let me let
Speaker 1: you know how I know how pause how big he is.
Speaker 1: Everywhere I go, people coming to me and go, what
Speaker 1: World Boss, Like good job with the World Boss. I'm like, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what the to say. Like they get
Speaker 1: straight to the point, like I don't really know you
Speaker 1: you know what, But you interviewed the world Boss. And
Speaker 1: I'd be like, okay, I'll be like I'll take the
Speaker 1: compliment world Boss, like you're the boss of the whole world.
Speaker 1: God damn he's that. I'm the world Boss. So that's ship.
Speaker 1: One time. I know we spoke about this, but one time,
Speaker 1: and I love the fact that y'all speak now. But
Speaker 1: where was the actual problem of you a mob deep
Speaker 1: in the S O B ship you I went to
Speaker 1: C T O N Y I was. I didn't want
Speaker 1: to go.
Speaker 2: I knew I have smoke with them niggas.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, I never seen Compona norig alive niggas
Speaker 1: Like nah, Mob Deeper is opening up I don't give
Speaker 1: a fun play the cut, and once once y'all get
Speaker 1: on stage, I'm out of it. I'm like, why time
Speaker 1: they going be going? So i just want to see
Speaker 1: them and ship. And then some fucking Peter Rosenberg was like, nah,
Speaker 1: you got to do your single. You gotta single, you
Speaker 1: got to represent and I'm like, right, I'm like to
Speaker 1: take the place. Take the place for that, trust me
Speaker 1: the whole, Please the place for that. You know, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: We were separated and it was and this was like
Speaker 1: the first time in New York City's headline and overwhelmed.
Speaker 1: I wanted to see t O n Wild.
Speaker 2: So that's one of my favorite hip hop songs.
Speaker 1: So but let me ask you, right, so everyone knows
Speaker 1: how that ended, right, but how did y'all initially get
Speaker 1: together and squash it? Because he was gonna before he died,
Speaker 1: we was getting on the phone.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It was like listening up because we was friends before that.
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't realize me and prod we
Speaker 1: was in friends, but we was.
Speaker 2: We was cordial.
Speaker 1: It was cordial, and then ship happened with true That's
Speaker 1: what got me.
Speaker 2: That's where it started, what did you do? True Rob?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he paid them for a verse and Prodigy used
Speaker 1: a verse on another song. So he was like, either
Speaker 1: give me, give me the money back, or give me
Speaker 1: a new verse.
Speaker 2: Which is fair? Which is fair?
Speaker 1: And he started like like not picking up the phone,
Speaker 1: is it Like I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 2: He started doubling them something like they think.
Speaker 1: Once he started saying that was like.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you us.
Speaker 1: We should do that. Back in the days, we used
Speaker 1: to be like, well, being a studio session, somebody would
Speaker 1: have a back for us. We didn't want to write
Speaker 1: the round real quick. So we just infamous for that.
Speaker 1: I know this because I'm a mix tape so I've
Speaker 1: seen it all the time. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: The other day was Na's birthday, right, so they start
Speaker 1: tagging him on all like like his freestyles that he
Speaker 1: had and I had like three or four freestyles.
Speaker 2: I was like, all of these shis is on my album.
Speaker 1: I was right on this. I don't know some nigga
Speaker 1: be wasting some fire. I'd be like, yo, I would
Speaker 1: have kept that ship for a song. You don't see
Speaker 1: a nigga rapping on the radio and the should be
Speaker 1: better than songs and ship like you should have kept
Speaker 1: you giving away the good ship. Your ship said, like
Speaker 1: ship they purposed the first song that Prodigy verse it
Speaker 1: was it was dope.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 2: MG rat true what What's true?
Speaker 1: Life said, Oh, it was dope record. So he never
Speaker 1: replaced the verse and he didn't even get mad at
Speaker 1: that point. He got mad when Son stopped replyings. He
Speaker 1: just kind of pretty much was like because he was like,
Speaker 1: if you won't give me a new verse, because someone's like,
Speaker 1: oh my bad smoke a lot.
Speaker 2: That's Peter probably like.
Speaker 1: Y'all be getting He probably was right, yeah, y'all smoke
Speaker 1: a love for God that I even use that ship.
Speaker 1: He was like, I got you and give you a new,
Speaker 1: brand new ship. Someone's happy. He was like, say less
Speaker 1: and then a couple of weeks past and you know,
Speaker 1: some whatever, a couple of months and then he just
Speaker 1: stopped replying, so he said, I'm catch up with him?
Speaker 1: You know, did he catch up with learning the industry? Like,
Speaker 1: because you think these guys are your friends. At first,
Speaker 1: you think like, like you know what you showed the
Speaker 1: love that you showed them to show When you actually
Speaker 1: realized that and you realize that these guys are pieces
Speaker 1: of ship sometimes all the time. Sometimes that person would
Speaker 1: just forgot you know what I'm saying, But like like
Speaker 1: I can understand. So then what happened when True like
Speaker 1: finally saw them caught up but he ain't catch peing
Speaker 1: and how he caught like the whole infamous mob niggas
Speaker 1: they caught him on Green Street studio.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they robbed him and they.
Speaker 1: Stripped niggas naked and pistolhip Alchemis did a lot of
Speaker 1: foul ship, like you know what I'm saying. It was
Speaker 1: a little extreme for that, but you know I saw
Speaker 1: niggas was on you know what I'm saying. And then
Speaker 1: so I was get because I was with True every day.
Speaker 1: I'm like guilty by association, like, oh that's his man
Speaker 1: type shit. So we were bumping to them niggas and
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, what's up? What's up? Man?
Speaker 2: Like you know, you know what's sod.
Speaker 1: I'm on you know what I'm saying, because I'm cool shot,
Speaker 1: But that's my brother being True. I know Truth is
Speaker 1: our teenager, you know what I'm saying. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's my brother. So you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: one thing led to do another to the point and
Speaker 1: then they try to say we was burning mall deep
Speaker 1: CDs on We had a stack of CDs. They should
Speaker 1: just happened to be one of them. So we burned
Speaker 1: everybody ship like all this shit is garbage. That's when
Speaker 1: we was being reckless, Like we kind of invented a
Speaker 1: lot of shit that's on the internet now, like the
Speaker 1: ship niggas doing they trolling, We was doing it on DVD.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know true staff Champagne Rose,
Speaker 1: he selected I want to take pictures with the niggas dollar.
Speaker 1: It's a dollar to take a picture with his niggas.
Speaker 1: Jewelry was fucked up. So then I was guilty by association.
Speaker 1: So they was like, yeah, we're gonna We're gonna get
Speaker 1: you when it happened. But because nothing actually initially happened
Speaker 1: with y'all. But what was it for s obs that
Speaker 1: all them niggas got on stage while I was on stage?
Speaker 1: I wan't put nothing happened with y'all prior to that.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, one.
Speaker 1: Time, one one time time, were about to get it on, okay,
Speaker 1: and one of the niggas had a hammer and they
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, we could kill you right now. I'm like, nigga,
Speaker 1: a good day to die, Nigga, I ain't. I ain't
Speaker 1: no cow, like what's up? And I was ready to go.
Speaker 1: You act sickam all your act them. I was ready
Speaker 1: to go. And then but it ain't. Nothing happened. So
Speaker 1: but I knew now that that's when I knew we
Speaker 1: had a problem because I'm like, I want to talk
Speaker 1: to Prodigy and his man just trying to like put
Speaker 1: his arm in front of him like so I'm like, so,
Speaker 1: what's up with the hand say nothing, always putting to
Speaker 1: be like, yo, that's my man. And he didn't say nothing.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, oh, maybe you don't fuck me no more.
Speaker 1: So from that point on, things just didn't go right
Speaker 1: because he affiliated you Tube with the True Life Ship.
Speaker 1: So then when when when the niggas got on stage,
Speaker 1: I was like, fuck it. I thought they was gonna
Speaker 1: speak touse living no angle lie. I'm like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get minds off.
Speaker 6: And I told y'all was together. Yeah, everybody did that
Speaker 6: because that's how close y'all were. Nigga like it was
Speaker 6: cruel out. I was like, oh, like that.
Speaker 1: Because niggas don't see thee Before they got on stage,
Speaker 1: they started with everybody on stage. I was up there
Speaker 1: by myself when by the time they showed the video,
Speaker 1: it's fourteen motherfuckers on stage, and I'm looking around like
Speaker 1: who are these niggas? But I keep rapping, you know,
Speaker 1: and then like I'm thinking, these niggas like this, they
Speaker 1: like this. I'm like, oh, this is and I've seen
Speaker 1: my man Prince who I grew up with, who's Havoc's cousin,
Speaker 1: and I'm like something, what is this? Like what's going on?
Speaker 1: He's like you good son, you good? You problems? So
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, fuck it, maybe it is love
Speaker 1: until it was time to get off the stage yoked
Speaker 1: me up, so all right, so it's popular. So then
Speaker 1: we got it. We started fighting, and that was the
Speaker 1: dumbest ship. That was dumb, like when you could be
Speaker 1: too brave sometimes because had I not, had God not
Speaker 1: been with me that day, they would have stomped a
Speaker 1: fucking mud hole in my eyes. Think about it, when
Speaker 1: y'all was running around right seeing in with y'all man
Speaker 1: deep murdering unit and all that. But nigga would too
Speaker 1: deep and would have snuffed you. What would have happened
Speaker 1: to him? Nigga probably died like and I thought I
Speaker 1: was gonna I was either I was like they were
Speaker 1: gonna kill me or they gonna hurt me real bad.
Speaker 1: But one thing they're gonna say is this niggas this
Speaker 1: nigga went out And that's that dumb mentality. It's a
Speaker 1: civil mentality. In hindsight, I wouldn't do it today. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't do that. I'm saying that, but if I was
Speaker 1: in my right state of mind, I'd be like, no,
Speaker 1: I ain't doing that. Ship shot your shots that anything
Speaker 1: could happen. Did y'all everythink and I'm gonna ask you don't
Speaker 1: thank God? Nohing yeah show on both sides. Did you
Speaker 1: ever think that will have a day where we were
Speaker 1: talking about Cameron and Mate, excuse me name Dame after
Speaker 1: Cameron and Jim Jones was beefing after Jim Jones and
Speaker 1: Dame was beefing. Now that Cam and Dames beefing, do
Speaker 1: you ever think that, like you like com home to
Speaker 1: unite hall them. Everybody said, everybody get a clean slate,
Speaker 1: everybody get a clean slate. When I come on needed
Speaker 1: he does know how to deliver a great interview. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: deliver great entertaining. I couldn't tell they was going to
Speaker 1: scrap at one point, you got to do that, told
Speaker 1: me me as knowing Dame and me as knowing Charlotmage.
Speaker 1: I wasn't worried at all. He wasn't. Yeah, I wasn't
Speaker 1: at all. I'm like, that's a little spicy. They getting
Speaker 1: a little spicy talk like I'll punch you in the
Speaker 1: face the side, like turn the cameras on. But they
Speaker 1: took pictures together afterwards and everything, so like you know, Dame,
Speaker 1: Dame definitely know he's polarizing. That's one thing I give
Speaker 1: him credit for. He gave a lot of dudes opportunity. Man,
Speaker 1: And he wasn't you started the rocket for at one point? No,
Speaker 1: I was, I was going. I was going. I didn't
Speaker 1: know I didn't know I had the opportunity until Randy
Speaker 1: actor to the fact that let you. I said, what
Speaker 1: then say? He said, I should have let you do
Speaker 1: the jigadale? He said, he said it was a jigger deal.
Speaker 1: You didn't know.
Speaker 2: He said, you had ready to the Atlantic deal.
Speaker 1: I said, man, I could of got out of GM.
Speaker 2: Jay could have made that ship go away.
Speaker 1: Like that with Retrospect. At that time, Atlantic was like
Speaker 1: direct in competition with Depth, and they were they were
Speaker 1: trying to like, well, so who's that because they had
Speaker 1: the whole cra Okay, you let jay Z do his
Speaker 1: thing over there, and I'm like, yo, son, I just
Speaker 1: played we can go over here with with Jay. I'm like,
Speaker 1: this should makes sense. We got the record, but I
Speaker 1: didn't know that there was an opportunity for a day
Speaker 1: because I used to be in Baseline every day, so
Speaker 1: it kind of seemed like I was on Rockefeller. I'd
Speaker 1: be in there with Bleak and Murder and Bonn and
Speaker 1: all the niggas every single day. So I felt like
Speaker 1: I was even though I was on a different label,
Speaker 1: it felt like I was still Rockefeller out We do
Speaker 1: our records together and so it was all good. It
Speaker 1: was like a family. So you know, then when ship
Speaker 1: went south with when they left, when they when they
Speaker 1: left Atlantic, that's when I was like, I don't want
Speaker 1: to be here because g and Hop left within like
Speaker 1: a year, right, so I'm like I want to be
Speaker 1: I don't talk, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Atlantic, he wasn't there.
Speaker 1: He had was in.
Speaker 2: Craig was running this ship because.
Speaker 1: They grew an industry, like when' what's the move? What's
Speaker 1: the movie? Paper soldiers? The other one stay property, state
Speaker 1: property too. Like they got an eighty Like when Beanie
Speaker 1: went to jail, like I gave him an eighty thousand
Speaker 1: dollars clearance from what the thug about? And they was
Speaker 1: like they was beef and it's like, yo, you know
Speaker 1: what He's like, Yo, how you gonna tell me? You know,
Speaker 1: my producer, like you know, blah blah blah, and it's
Speaker 1: like yo, he was like, yo, give it to him.
Speaker 1: Like you know, he was like, yo, you know, beans
Speaker 1: need a favor because they got beans beans in court
Speaker 1: and they got to get up all the money, you know,
Speaker 1: so to pay his legal fees. And that was that
Speaker 1: was deeva. It's like, yo, eighty thousand all right, said
Speaker 1: you had to give up? No, no, Like the Clarence
Speaker 1: was eighty thousands, okay, okay, you know like a Clarence
Speaker 1: used ten fifteen. Ye. They was like, oh, you know
Speaker 1: it's an eighty thousand dollars Clarence maybe more.
Speaker 2: Well it's a clear to sample sugar about about damn.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, Come on baby with one hundred grand and
Speaker 1: they took one hundred percent of the publishing. Jay Giles
Speaker 1: mand I was like, but back then you don't be
Speaker 1: knowing you just like it ain't my fucking money at
Speaker 1: throwing up out. You don't realize until recouping you like, yo,
Speaker 1: when you care about recouping, you care about you do
Speaker 1: records like that, Like you know, after twenty five years,
Speaker 1: I'll believe thirty years the records convert back to you.
Speaker 1: You do records like that, those never convert back to you, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because they get your wrap. Yeah, sure, like the J
Speaker 1: Jeals Man, it's like that will that will push your album,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And you can have you know,
Speaker 1: like Booty records on the album and it's like through
Speaker 1: one hot record that'll that'll make it move, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And that's that's what it's for. Like
Speaker 1: sometimes it's like, Yo, you know what I didn't play
Speaker 1: this sample or I played this sample? Is they took
Speaker 1: everything and it's like, yo, that's it. Like Isaac Hayes
Speaker 1: did that with Faith record you produce, Yeah, they got
Speaker 1: eighty poppers in the publishing. Dam what else? I don't
Speaker 1: need him. Jesse Jackson took all the.
Speaker 2: Publishing Jesse Jackson, Yeah, Jesse Jackson.
Speaker 1: Jesse Jason ran for president.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, Jesse Jackson, you said Jackson DJ CO.
Speaker 1: But like I had a lot of clearances, like even
Speaker 1: though people don't know, like yo, what you've done. Like
Speaker 1: I had a lot of clearances and like movies and stuff,
Speaker 1: it's like, yo, it's insane. So it's I was like, yo, Sean,
Speaker 1: you know what it is? Like, Oh you know, yo,
Speaker 1: he won one hundred percent? All right, cool, you know
Speaker 1: at least I got. I got the other part, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Not the publishing part, but you know,
Speaker 1: the sales part. So when they take on a hundred percent,
Speaker 1: you still get paid though, right oh no, no, don't
Speaker 1: produce it, don't get paid. It's two parts like either
Speaker 1: if the publishing and the master the mechanical, like mechanical,
Speaker 1: Like I got the mechanical because it's like it was
Speaker 1: public domain. So like I ate, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: but I didn't eat. But it's like, you know, the publishing.
Speaker 1: I think what he's asking is for just making the bee.
Speaker 1: You still get paid, like you're making work for high No, no,
Speaker 1: not not publishing like it originally.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like the label has to pay for the clears
Speaker 3: of the sample, but for you to actually make the beef,
Speaker 3: you got to clear it something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of money, but like real, you know,
Speaker 1: but real, like yo, I got a lot of money
Speaker 1: just doing beats like then, because it's like I was
Speaker 1: turning out beats and turning out beats and all of
Speaker 1: them still.
Speaker 2: Play today, right, you know, to look, I got a
Speaker 2: lot of ship. So let me just tell you something.
Speaker 1: It was. It was one era like there's always like
Speaker 1: two producers, right, so it's like Primo and Pete Rock, right,
Speaker 1: Swiss and Timberland, and then I remember this one era
Speaker 1: it was just.
Speaker 2: Buck Wild and easy LP. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I found out easy LP record, which one is that
Speaker 1: it's a record called Come Again. Like I would do
Speaker 1: a record and then you'd be like, yo, you know what,
Speaker 1: I heard your record. I'm going to make beats and
Speaker 1: it's like and then he do a record like I
Speaker 1: remember when when.
Speaker 2: Sean ship, Like yo, I heard that ship.
Speaker 1: I was like, damn man, and that's that's going like
Speaker 1: you know the next week, you know, I want to
Speaker 1: rob and it's like, Yo, that was that and it's
Speaker 1: like it was like yo one l P one one
Speaker 1: buck Wild one LP one buck Wild and it's like, yo,
Speaker 1: that was on fire.
Speaker 2: That was that was a dope error.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Imagine you ever did a compilation together like A side
Speaker 2: and B side.
Speaker 1: We didn't. We didn't know, like yeah, like rappers competition
Speaker 1: like and today no niggas will be like, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: ain't no competition like we we like we'll be like, yo,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm yo, I'm gonna smash that ship.
Speaker 1: And that's what it is. It's like, you know, ain't
Speaker 1: no competition like yo, you know, yo, you gotta wreck.
Speaker 2: Don't care about the art no more.
Speaker 1: That the creativity that's the whack part about it, Like
Speaker 1: you don't hear music no more to make you be like, yo,
Speaker 1: this is inspiring. Man, I want to go.
Speaker 2: I need man, you don't hear that ship?
Speaker 3: Like music is being ages to be in the media
Speaker 3: sirt exactly like it where where you want the.
Speaker 1: Media to promote the music. Now it's like use music
Speaker 1: to just do exact media exactly. That's the beaute about
Speaker 1: your album is again it sounds like the culture, but
Speaker 1: then it sounds like now right now, I'm well aware
Speaker 1: of my age, well over in my age seven. So
Speaker 1: like that's that's the scary part for me. Is the
Speaker 1: reason why I kind of don't want to make music
Speaker 1: is not not completely, but this is one of the reasons, right,
Speaker 1: It is because I don't know if I lost my ear.
Speaker 1: This is what I mean, let me, let me, let me,
Speaker 1: let me finish, or do I just want to hear
Speaker 1: my type of music? Because like because I started to
Speaker 1: sound like that old dude like my day, Like I
Speaker 1: was like wait a minute, like hold on, hold up,
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean. So so like what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like that's kind of inevitable, Like I want
Speaker 1: by luxury to get my son's room. I'm not knocking it,
Speaker 1: but I'm just like, am I become my parents because
Speaker 1: I'm like, listen, one of the biggest rappers out I
Speaker 1: don't understand none of that ship like Playboy CARDI.
Speaker 2: You ever listen to that ship?
Speaker 1: It ain't even like rat but it makes noises like
Speaker 1: you're not even Hendrick. I don't know about my kids
Speaker 1: listening to Kendrick. I'm saying, do you listen to Kendrick? Oh?
Speaker 2: I listen to and Drake.
Speaker 1: So when when you listen to Kendrick and Drake, you're like, yo,
Speaker 1: you know you tuned in, so you got your hand
Speaker 1: on a poster, like you know, hip hop, there's other ships,
Speaker 1: you know, kids we listen to be like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know what. I don't know what that ship is.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it's from. Like my son be
Speaker 1: like yo, putting putting songs in the car.
Speaker 2: I'd be like, Yo, what the fuck is that ship?
Speaker 2: Reason why I would?
Speaker 1: I would me personally would appreciate some new music from
Speaker 1: you because you always had your own style.
Speaker 2: You always ship your way like I used to be
Speaker 2: like Yo, Norri.
Speaker 1: You know, like nobody.
Speaker 2: Creation it is.
Speaker 1: I always try to be in my lane, but I
Speaker 1: don't know what lane going this time. It's like you
Speaker 1: but it's your lane, like you know, you let your
Speaker 1: mind get it million percent. Because it's something that I've
Speaker 1: seen young Thug. They said to Young Doug and it
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, why you ain't dropping music? And he
Speaker 1: was like, I just don't have the energy around me.
Speaker 1: And it's like.
Speaker 2: I thought of that.
Speaker 1: It's like sometimes like oh, maybe I'm scared of this generation.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm scared of just catered to my generation.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Like four four four was one of my favorite jay
Speaker 1: Z jay Z's album and it wasn't because it was
Speaker 1: the best jay Z album, but it was. It was
Speaker 1: because it related to this time. He spoke to this
Speaker 1: day in time. He didn't try to be a twenty
Speaker 1: year old rapper. He's trying to be a grown uh married,
Speaker 1: successful businessman and make dope raps. So that's the reason why,
Speaker 1: that's why he stated he did.
Speaker 3: Himself like he did what I'm assuming he did the
Speaker 3: music that he wanted to do that he appreciated.
Speaker 1: I know, sometimes it's not enough. That's that's what you
Speaker 1: can't put yourself. So like ship, you know, like you
Speaker 1: know what, I made the Ward report for us, but
Speaker 1: I had in mind that the world was going to
Speaker 1: do it. But if I would have made it just
Speaker 1: for us, the world wouldn't have heard it. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying about the world. But let me just
Speaker 1: tell you something. When I listened to the ward report,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, why the people even like this ship?
Speaker 1: We were talking and the queen slang like you. I
Speaker 1: didn't realize that what I listen to all that ship
Speaker 1: right now the same feeling. Like me, music is about
Speaker 1: a feeling, and I still get that feeling when I
Speaker 1: what was that ship you had?
Speaker 2: Think mom, thug was on that ship.
Speaker 1: Keep you remember that it happened to now. We were
Speaker 1: talking and he was like, yo, I don't know what
Speaker 1: you're talk about because we were talking about queens. So
Speaker 1: like the thing about it is, that's what's crazy about
Speaker 1: the world is sometimes you make something for your little
Speaker 1: block and that little world, the world that takes over.
Speaker 1: That ship Charlotte made said he used to call the
Speaker 1: old Queen's Bridge. They was in South Carolina, queens brand
Speaker 1: because you draw people into your world, not you. You
Speaker 1: be like, oh, you know, I'm gonna make this for
Speaker 1: the You don't behind in the parraale like them, and
Speaker 1: there me some ship, give me the Louis guitar. Yeat
Speaker 1: kidding me. I don't know how to ask for friends
Speaker 1: and family. I don't know to be that guy right now, brother,
Speaker 1: I know that Louis ship. You gotta you gotta get
Speaker 1: buying my own ship. No like you gotta point. I
Speaker 1: gotta get get And by the way, let's make the
Speaker 1: noise for real. For being the fucking Louis vuitar. It
Speaker 1: sounds like kind of cliche, but it's not. And he said,
Speaker 1: did you ever think that hip hop will take it
Speaker 1: this far? Like crazy? Ship is like yo, bro, just
Speaker 1: seeing Pharrell again living this big up Pharrell and big
Speaker 1: up to clips, like seeing them in the Vatican like
Speaker 1: a t K in my eye. Bro, that's crazy. Never
Speaker 1: think about, like not only think about for me, but
Speaker 1: think about for any artist.
Speaker 8: And then you sort the thing. You say, what the
Speaker 8: isn't clips drug dealers? Like how the are they performing
Speaker 8: in the vat Vatican? Make you so?
Speaker 1: And they're performing a song about their parents who passed
Speaker 1: away and there's no curses on this song. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, they got the but de listen like they
Speaker 1: doing the super Bowl. I'm like, you know, I want
Speaker 1: to see j do the super Bowl just as to say,
Speaker 1: everybody kiss my ass, like because he could have been
Speaker 1: signed himself up to do it.
Speaker 9: About first you got enough other people?
Speaker 1: Bring me out? I would you want Ushige the record
Speaker 1: with you? Every jay Z is nice because it's like, yo,
Speaker 1: you know what they could go do it. It's like
Speaker 1: and he knows that he's gonna kill it, like now,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. I think that Brooklyn died of him.
Speaker 1: He got tired of people talking about this guy should
Speaker 1: have been on this stage and this guy, and he's like, listen,
Speaker 1: I've run this ship, and now show y'all I run
Speaker 1: this like. I think he got biggered to. They say
Speaker 1: it was called big eared. Yeah, the bigger him too much.
Speaker 1: And I think he said, Okay, I'm gonna show you
Speaker 1: how the crocodile bikes back. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because the pigeon is Chris pickering on the crocodile on
Speaker 1: the crocodile. And it's like, hey man, because that's what
Speaker 1: rappers ship, like, we gotta do.
Speaker 2: We gotta do rapper ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why you know our show it's about giving
Speaker 1: people they flowers but they can smell them, do us
Speaker 1: where they can tell them it drinks while they can
Speaker 1: drink them, and they they smoke while they could smoke them.
Speaker 1: You know, we want to get you.
Speaker 10: Oh I got about the sack ship.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you he knows this, know that's right, No
Speaker 1: doubt is better than the Grammy because this bro so
Speaker 1: buck what what was what was your most unexpected, unexpected production,
Speaker 1: like someone called and wanted to work with you, and
Speaker 1: you like, get the fuck out of here. I got
Speaker 1: a lot of calls like that, okay, And Okay, that's
Speaker 1: a hard question. Okay, you know because everybody, everybody, like
Speaker 1: in my time, like everybody was reaching out and it's like,
Speaker 1: yo didn't know and YA was partying and all like
Speaker 1: having took the stones out, like everybody was calling, and
Speaker 1: you know, I was just, oh, you know, that's that
Speaker 1: nobody stands out and protect like who you were, Like,
Speaker 1: damn anybody you were nervous for the I would say
Speaker 1: probably Faith because it's like I was, I was doing
Speaker 1: R and B music, but it's like that's that's that's
Speaker 1: that's the record that I love you, that that was
Speaker 1: that ship.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Because j Loo wrote it?
Speaker 1: What really come on? Man? You listen.
Speaker 2: She wrote a part of it.
Speaker 1: I mean, like I think the hook like she wrote
Speaker 1: and it's like a couple of lines but a minimum
Speaker 1: like five percent on ten percent like she wrote. But
Speaker 1: she was in a studio with the face didn't write
Speaker 1: the song like Faith's just like yo, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'll take it. That's crazy and you know, it's like, well,
Speaker 1: I love you, I love you. I mean forget he did.
Speaker 1: His discography is crazy. DJ know, it's crazy, crazy discography, Bro,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. What about the big records though, and you
Speaker 1: record those a bad boy? Right? Bad boy? That is
Speaker 1: everybody everybody who was a big artist are recorded with them,
Speaker 1: except for fifty. Like fifty went off like you know,
Speaker 1: with Mike Tyson, like Tyson House, like he recorded over there,
Speaker 1: and it's like they was like, oh, you know, yo,
Speaker 1: this fifty record is crazy, and it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't need them. It's like when in the nineties
Speaker 1: and two thousands, it's like if it ain't ringing like
Speaker 1: a single, I'd be like, yo, you know what, this
Speaker 1: ain't it right, But the streams and shit, you know,
Speaker 1: they show they show like yo, this is this is
Speaker 1: people's favorite record, you know, and that's crazy, right? All right?
Speaker 1: What about making a biggie records?
Speaker 2: Oh well, biggie, what joints you did it?
Speaker 1: Big? I got a story to tell. I kicked clothes
Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, that was that. It be he born
Speaker 1: in another beat like I had about seven and eight
Speaker 1: beats and he was like, oh, you know now you're
Speaker 1: doing shit. I like, and this was right before he died.
Speaker 1: But when he said, oh, you know, I got a song,
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, I was like, okay, cool, It's
Speaker 1: like this is the song that the.
Speaker 2: Locks want, and you know, the story to tell was
Speaker 2: for the locks.
Speaker 1: No, it was another beat, but it's like this, this
Speaker 1: was for the Locks. And when I got it, like, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: you know I was I was bugging. I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: you know what Yo? He just one verse and you know,
Speaker 1: people was like, oh, you know, just the hottest ship.
Speaker 1: Foxy said that ship. And I was like, Yo, this
Speaker 1: is this is cool. You know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: didn't realize. You didn't realize it was it was hard,
Speaker 1: and you didn't realize he was talking about Anthony Mason.
Speaker 1: Yeah I don't know, yeah allegedly. You know that was crazy.
Speaker 1: While it is being done, man, it's like I've done
Speaker 1: so many records, it's like yo, and you could attest
Speaker 1: to this like records fold over and it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know this is that. It's like this is out
Speaker 1: the windows, like this is on on to the next
Speaker 1: and that's what it is, all right, But so when
Speaker 1: did you realize that this record is a classic. After
Speaker 1: it dropped probably like ninety nine or two thousand, damn.
Speaker 1: Like after like after like you know, streaming, it's like
Speaker 1: I started seeing everything come to fruition. It's like you
Speaker 1: to realize it was a classic, like yeah, because it's
Speaker 1: like we was only like we Like for me, I
Speaker 1: lived in the Bronx, so it's like I would go
Speaker 1: on the porch and I'd be like, yo, you know
Speaker 1: counter counter cars is like you know, drop by playing
Speaker 1: my ship and I was like, oh, you know, and
Speaker 1: every like the streatment is like yo, everything came at once.
Speaker 1: You know, that's crazy. So you knew WOA was out
Speaker 1: of here because every car was playing whoa when that
Speaker 1: shake out, like whoa, it's like I seen it. But
Speaker 1: when I seen it, I was in the I forgot this,
Speaker 1: I forgot this club. But I've seen hole. It was
Speaker 1: like because he's he like he like we gave him
Speaker 1: a beat, and it's like, yo, get out of here here. Lenny,
Speaker 1: like Lenny as who's the mastermind, Like yo, he he
Speaker 1: took all the beats, like you know, he was like,
Speaker 1: oh you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna get this
Speaker 1: want to get that one and it's like yo, old
Speaker 1: us for JA, hold us for bleak or argue with
Speaker 1: the bleak, and it's like nobody wanted it, and you
Speaker 1: know Rol took it. I don't think nobody would have
Speaker 1: did it for him. Always say that, like nobody, nobody
Speaker 1: would would have tried to rap too much to do
Speaker 1: the world. When you when you got an artist, right,
Speaker 1: artist like Jay is like, oh, you know what, I
Speaker 1: gotta figure figure out how to conquer the song and
Speaker 1: like oh see o C Like you know, all the
Speaker 1: rappers you know is the same person. Like you know,
Speaker 1: they figure out, like yo, how to address this I'm
Speaker 1: saying and that, and that's what it is like. Even Mont,
Speaker 1: It's like you know what Simon says, It's like like
Speaker 1: the gods is a simple he he could have spit
Speaker 1: like hymnautical gases and ship like that. But you know
Speaker 1: Simon says as well, no, okay, I wish I did.
Speaker 1: Remember what happened with that record they got Yo. When
Speaker 1: when he when he my house, He's like, yo, you
Speaker 1: know what, I want you to hit his record? He
Speaker 1: drove all the way to the Bronx and like I
Speaker 1: just I just had done the beat for Woe and
Speaker 1: it's like yo. He was like, Yo, tell me, tell
Speaker 1: me what you think of this record.
Speaker 2: And I look and I was like, damn.
Speaker 1: Man, it's like he done it. You knew it was fire.
Speaker 1: He produced that too. No found that produced record. I
Speaker 1: think that might be the only one he did himself,
Speaker 1: the only one. Yeah, But that's how the record was huge.
Speaker 1: Know when he said he could have said hypnautical gases
Speaker 1: on it, he could have games. He's literally he did
Speaker 1: the right thing for that artist. It's like he'll he'll
Speaker 1: do the right beat for the right artists. And it's like, yo,
Speaker 1: you can't spit this on us. And it's like Simon says,
Speaker 1: it's like, yo, that's that fit.
Speaker 2: Perfect, that's the record right records.
Speaker 1: Still, I was on tour with Ouur March, which we
Speaker 1: need on drink Champs by twelve years ago man, and
Speaker 1: he taught me intimitted fast and back then, oh, twelve
Speaker 1: years ago. I was like, we came downstairs at the
Speaker 1: point it was this is this is this is he
Speaker 1: put together like like I'm talking about like slim trim
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yo, we're going to get something to eat.
Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, I ate yesterday and we just
Speaker 1: all laughed at this time. By the way we laughed,
Speaker 1: We're like, yo, what the yo yesterday? Like And twelve
Speaker 1: years later this ship to make the weight off. I
Speaker 1: had read How to Eat to Live already. I laughed
Speaker 1: at him, really me laughing at myself, Like I was like,
Speaker 1: he showed me the blueprint. I knew better. But but
Speaker 1: you know, we all overseas me in Germany and ship.
Speaker 1: I was like, I got Chinese mood in Germany.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm going together.
Speaker 1: We did the day before. We went here the day
Speaker 1: before and they had duck sauce. We were open. We
Speaker 1: didn't realize other people had dunk sauce outside of New
Speaker 1: York City, so we were like yo. We were like, yo, yo,
Speaker 1: you want to go to the next party? Like nah,
Speaker 1: they got stay at the same hotel. They got dunks
Speaker 1: over there. Then they got dunk. I just came with us.
Speaker 1: It was us, Paul marsh I'm gonna get who else
Speaker 1: but honest came with us. But so uh, I'm sorry
Speaker 1: this sounds so cliche, and I know we brushed on
Speaker 1: it earlier, but did you ever think that hip hop
Speaker 1: will actually make it this far? Never? Look, look billionaires
Speaker 1: like it was something for motherfucker to make think about
Speaker 1: what Jay was saying, eighty million, like I'm raping jump
Speaker 1: Jim till I'm the hundred million men like he was.
Speaker 2: That was the reach.
Speaker 1: We were like, yeah, millions, crazy man's penuts. Yeah, a couple.
Speaker 1: He's the most. He's the richest fucking musician. That's crazy.
Speaker 2: So you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Taking this fall to the top of the boller stones. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Like nobody funny the niggas that take act with some
Speaker 1: other niggas, Yeah, all them people. I'm stopped saying the
Speaker 1: word me and being bleak was being bleak when when
Speaker 1: I did Bleak podcast, we were talking about the scenes
Speaker 1: and I was just like, I made a post and
Speaker 1: I said, I think Beyonce might have surpassed Mike, like
Speaker 1: the greatest entertainer ever, Like, man, I got so much.
Speaker 1: He got me Mike alone, And Blee was like, nah,
Speaker 1: he said, me and Jay had that argument, Jason, now
Speaker 1: you bugging, Oh my god, man, I'm you're saying you
Speaker 1: gotta relax. That's Mike, And I'm like, but when you
Speaker 1: go back, when you look at the consistency though of
Speaker 1: Beyonce's career, because I went and did the fucking Mike last.
Speaker 1: Michael had like twelve year gaps in between his but
Speaker 1: you gotta count Jackson five. But he's right now, got
Speaker 1: Destiny Shell too. Yeah yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: But even though still like Mike had these bits, like
Speaker 1: you say, he got three monster albums that make his
Speaker 1: career off the wall, and what is it dangerous?
Speaker 2: Even bad?
Speaker 1: You can throw bad in it, right, And this girl
Speaker 1: don't stop man like, she's consistent. She doesn't turn to
Speaker 1: the cowboy out. That's one thing that she turned the cowboy.
Speaker 1: It's one thing that Michael got over. Kind of like everybody,
Speaker 1: what's that making niggas faint and ship.
Speaker 2: Niggas be dying?
Speaker 1: And Mike Ship Mike he had all that stretchers in
Speaker 1: the front. You never seen nobody else with stretches. He
Speaker 1: originated that. But Mike was a crib.
Speaker 2: You've seen that ship. Mike was the crib. Mike was crip.
Speaker 1: Well, dif that was the difference, Like, yeah, we had
Speaker 1: DJ Quick sit right here and we're like, because you
Speaker 1: know he yeah, he was walking this movie and I'm like, ya,
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you he goes because I believe this
Speaker 1: is the exact words. He goes them signs he was
Speaker 1: throwing up was not blood friendly. It was making Mike.
Speaker 1: And there's that rumor that he fought Park. You know,
Speaker 1: that rumor gets bigger and bigger, but it's not so
Speaker 1: real like that Mike just whipped his ass like was
Speaker 1: messing with.
Speaker 7: I think about it.
Speaker 3: Just wonder lady like yeah, talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeahs probing on the like just gonnaup on your phone
Speaker 1: so you le seriously, I can believe Michael fight. The
Speaker 1: guy told the store. You can't believe it too, because
Speaker 1: they said prince and they say he grew up getting
Speaker 1: as weapons so they seen the fighting.
Speaker 9: Yeah, your brothers not your parents. You don't learn how
Speaker 9: to fight and your brothers and you fight your brothers
Speaker 9: faking that's your brother you got you ready to pop
Speaker 9: on them?
Speaker 1: Joe funck them up. Joe fun them up. What I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Joe funcked them up. But Joe, Joe, you say you'll
Speaker 1: put your hands up. No, That's what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: Joe was like the complete ass whooping, and the brothers like, yo,
Speaker 1: you know what this just ask what exactly wanted the talent?
Speaker 1: He whipped them niggas in the shape because the niggas
Speaker 1: talented the ship. You the step again, Manna, Like what
Speaker 1: lit fucking around even want? Don't do that again? Nah?
Speaker 1: They said he would making sure that they practiced. Had
Speaker 1: to get up in the middle of the night, like
Speaker 1: liter what's the most American idol? Ain't he a Jackson?
Speaker 1: Not American idol? Randy, He's not a Jackson. No, he's
Speaker 1: not a Jackson. Brandy Jackson. When Bizz, you know, following
Speaker 1: that fucking Internet, when Biz was sick, somebody posted your
Speaker 1: biz rest in peace, this markey, this market and somebody posted, yo,
Speaker 1: biz rest in peace, my dumb ass. Wanting to get
Speaker 1: likes real quick. Those want to be like I got
Speaker 1: the interest that recipe, I don't know. I don't posted
Speaker 1: a pit to the nigga your resting piece of the beers.
Speaker 1: Just Blaze came immediately say yo, just got off the phone.
Speaker 1: Bit Biz ain't dad Bro stupid as hell. He's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: do what the fun you doing? I was like, that's
Speaker 1: the Internet for you. You want to be first. Niggas
Speaker 1: want to be first to shit and get that get
Speaker 1: that engagement. They like, Oh ship, I got some, I
Speaker 1: got some like with the Dame dash ship. Look, I
Speaker 1: mean niggas is spreading that ship, but.
Speaker 2: Revoked ship.
Speaker 1: She was up listening to that live you should have called.
Speaker 1: That's how I knew it was a little bit of a
Speaker 1: cat because he wouldn't have said, I'm like everybody's. He
Speaker 1: would have threw me under the table. Listen. I'm expecting it, y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all good. I always been good with Dame. I always
Speaker 1: appreciated Dame. I always had love for Dame. We had,
Speaker 1: uh we say exchanged recently stick face Gary and then
Speaker 1: me and being Bleak. We all got on the phone.
Speaker 1: But what it was was we smoke like men. We
Speaker 1: smoke like men. I told him what I didn't like.
Speaker 1: He told me what he didn't like. We agreed to
Speaker 1: disagree because we did not you know, not me in
Speaker 1: the in the middle. We met. That's what the problem was.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's what solution was, and we we
Speaker 1: amended ways. And then I admire what he's doing. I
Speaker 1: admire him acknowledging bleaks. Yeah, that was the loyalty and
Speaker 1: Bleak because you know what it is is we have
Speaker 1: Bleak on here. And then like we kind of studied
Speaker 1: the algorithms of what happened and right now. To me,
Speaker 1: I know I'm going to sound crazy, but to me,
Speaker 1: like Jim Jones, talking is very important to me, Tony yao,
Speaker 1: talking is very very important to me.
Speaker 2: Uh, bleak.
Speaker 1: To the guy and to me, it's the year of
Speaker 1: the man that's saying. Next to the man, it comes
Speaker 1: to band this year, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: Bleak is like he's really taking on like Jay's whole monaricure,
Speaker 1: like like like like everybody, everybody that's saying something wrong
Speaker 1: about Jay. He knows Jay's not coming out of the house,
Speaker 1: and he knows he has a podcast, so he knows
Speaker 1: that he can actually delivered addressed.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, this ship came out out today.
Speaker 1: So what I'm trying to say is that's so smart
Speaker 1: to me, even though I gave him the blueprint and
Speaker 1: we gave him the distribution, but that part is like
Speaker 1: bringing people into his own world.
Speaker 2: That's that's his ship.
Speaker 1: He got good personality, man, person funny your funny god, dude.
Speaker 1: So what's what's your favorite part of the game. So
Speaker 1: I going, is it performing? Yeah, traveling, traveling, seeing different
Speaker 1: parts of the world that none of us will probably
Speaker 1: see he wasn't rapping. You know what I'm saying, You'll
Speaker 1: find yourself in one of the countries. You're like, what
Speaker 1: the where the fuck am I interested? He's the only
Speaker 1: one that ever sat traveling. That's the funniest part, the
Speaker 1: funniest part of everyone says they always pay promore in
Speaker 1: and performing, excuse me or recording.
Speaker 2: I like traveling.
Speaker 1: I mean i'd assume performing goes with the traveling. Not really. No, say,
Speaker 1: you can perform anywhere, but when you like me, I
Speaker 1: like to see him, which I'm not. I want you.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm sitting here messed up because now I'm
Speaker 1: traveling and I didn't realize how much. And I'm saying
Speaker 1: this with a with a grain of salt, and I'm
Speaker 1: saying this, I didn't know how much of a slave
Speaker 1: I was. I would never enjoy these towns.
Speaker 2: I would go there, perform.
Speaker 1: Do the version of the Breakfast Club, do that version
Speaker 1: of funk Flex, do they version of DJ And you
Speaker 1: know I know it. See the spot, I'm like, I
Speaker 1: see the part of Croatia and I was like, Croatia
Speaker 1: is nice, Like I've been to the foul water. I
Speaker 1: was like, wait a minute, like because and I was
Speaker 1: just there to work. So now that I'm traveling again
Speaker 1: and seeing the world, I appreciate it so I don't
Speaker 1: have to rush the soundtrack. I don't have to you know.
Speaker 1: Take a page from jay z book where it's like
Speaker 1: the reason why he flew like like was talking about
Speaker 1: like yo he took he like he takes fucking days
Speaker 1: where it's like they take days to reach theate destination.
Speaker 1: Jay Z beat there in the day, yeah you know,
Speaker 1: but it's like, yo, he soak up a lot of culture.
Speaker 1: He said, I'm flying over believe yeah, man, but that
Speaker 1: that traveling, yeah, to see in the world. Man, you know,
Speaker 1: not listen to me. I've never heard that. And when
Speaker 1: you just said that, I realized that's that was mine.
Speaker 1: It's because like right now, like I just went to
Speaker 1: Paris and I went there to run, but I was
Speaker 1: I was traveling and so many people are like y'all
Speaker 1: got to back for you, got a back for you,
Speaker 1: And I was just like I don't want to go
Speaker 1: to but I was thought about. I was like I
Speaker 1: reached my destination already. I'm here. I traveled here, like
Speaker 1: I actually don't we care about going in the club,
Speaker 1: and these guys don't have the order and all this
Speaker 1: ship like, guys, they don't have the I know everywhere,
Speaker 1: I know everywhere, like I.
Speaker 2: Know eighty five for yah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, people, we want we want.
Speaker 1: Ziro when you get with this. Herot's you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, we want that guy. That's hilarious, he said, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not just take ship whatever. Man.
Speaker 3: All right, guys, we're gonna do quick time with slime.
Speaker 3: Oh really, this is the drinking game. Drink water, you
Speaker 3: can zip it.
Speaker 1: I'm drinking.
Speaker 3: We'll give you two choices. Look, but we're gonna give
Speaker 3: you two choices. Pick one and we're not drinking. Say
Speaker 3: both are neither and were drinking. But just give us
Speaker 3: some stories, and you know, we just want to bring
Speaker 3: up people in places. All right, park are easy.
Speaker 1: That's a hard easy.
Speaker 2: He's the godfather, Yes he is.
Speaker 1: Like yo, he's he started the ship. It's true, he
Speaker 1: started start. What are you starting to think of the tree?
Speaker 1: The tree going? Let me just tell you how ill
Speaker 1: easy is. I know, no, even that tree reaches pop
Speaker 1: for sure. I've been listening to this album. I never
Speaker 1: really caught it easy, he said on his ship. He said,
Speaker 1: ice Cube right the rhymes that I say, crazy Holy
Speaker 1: Ship interview ice Cube, and I asked, And then if
Speaker 1: you look at the credits, I don't think ice Cube
Speaker 1: name is on there right around and it's Easy credited
Speaker 1: for Jerry hell Ship, Jerry heller Ship, go off what
Speaker 1: you want saying? Said Easy Easy? Yeah, wow yo, because
Speaker 1: he like Easy is the god. Like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's like Park is like a worker, like
Speaker 1: he like he like he commanded, like you know, he
Speaker 1: taught us, you know what I'm saying, Like he he
Speaker 1: wrote like he ain't right, but it's like he commanded, like,
Speaker 1: oh you know, write the song. It's like you know,
Speaker 1: and that's said, like yo, you know he was a dude.
Speaker 1: And what's crazy is I believed Easy more than all
Speaker 1: of them, not even knowing that someone was. I guess
Speaker 1: his delivery was like you could tell, like it's intense,
Speaker 1: you could tell it came from him, and I feel
Speaker 1: would say Easy. Yeah. I don't know, man, I think
Speaker 1: because once once they left Easy, he went and signed
Speaker 1: on Bone Thugs and Home Andy. So he kept his
Speaker 1: career the business part of it, but his music after that,
Speaker 1: after that record was seven killed with this record. The
Speaker 1: people kind of you know what this record when he
Speaker 1: went to the White House and all I'm like, what
Speaker 1: fuck is this nigga? But I'm like, first thing gonna
Speaker 1: go to the White House, first thing gonna do, like
Speaker 1: almost everything is he let it from the f B.
Speaker 1: I did the first ones to get the rested on stage. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now that was that was Gusta Oh, which was mimicking
Speaker 1: in It's Crazy. Chris Rock was disrespectful for that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: blating with it to m Gusta Crazy before It's Crazy.
Speaker 1: That's my one of my favorite movies, bro, because it
Speaker 1: makes more sense now it is. Yeah, when you when you.
Speaker 3: When hindsight, the recipes are pocketing easy by the way,
Speaker 3: Diamond d or Lord Finess.
Speaker 2: Oh that's the one, Yo, that's a hard one though.
Speaker 1: Is a producer, however, you know I'm saying it's a producer.
Speaker 1: This is what advertaria you feel your mind is a producer,
Speaker 1: Lord Finess, get out of here over Diamond D Yo too.
Speaker 1: But with Diamonds Yo, he'spen ticulous with beats and Yo
Speaker 1: they come out crazy and Diamond is like yoikulous with
Speaker 1: songs like he made dope songs, So for songs is
Speaker 1: a rapper, it's Diamond. What I would have never guessed
Speaker 1: that because it's like, yo, Diamond, Diamonds are better rapping thawfulness, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because that's what. But like yo artist, like the person
Speaker 1: who's fits and stage show like Diamond d is flawless.
Speaker 1: You know, Diamond has first album class what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and finesse the beats. Fucking I would have reverse that, Yo,
Speaker 1: U not not so suicidal thoughts the doctor dre beat,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's it's it's on and on and
Speaker 1: it's like you don't know where. It's like you know
Speaker 1: he's gonna end up, but it's like he like they
Speaker 1: both don't.
Speaker 2: But it's like Vanessa, is.
Speaker 1: That dude just like he got an extra he got
Speaker 1: an extra with like you know, it's it's you know, you.
Speaker 3: Know, we got to respect him because most people will
Speaker 3: said easily or not.
Speaker 1: He possibly don't knows better.
Speaker 2: But I would have never seen.
Speaker 1: A person put together syllables and punchlines like the way
Speaker 1: Lord for that, Lord for that can start like the
Speaker 1: first ball and then he first ball makes sense ball.
Speaker 1: He's dope. But Diamond is the rapper, the rappers, rapper,
Speaker 1: he thanks to songs, and you know, I think he's
Speaker 1: a producer, but it's like he's the rapper rapper. He's like, yo,
Speaker 1: you know what he's doping doing BC. He's like he
Speaker 1: can make like classics, you know, that's that ship and
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, a bunch of other song like
Speaker 1: more anthem, you know. But it's like Finessa's like yo,
Speaker 1: you know what he like. He he puts those hits together,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's like he'll be like, yo, you
Speaker 1: know what, Diamond like I would did this this way?
Speaker 1: It's like I would is this this way? Nobody better act?
Speaker 1: I would have definitely thought, yeah, we would have said,
Speaker 1: Vanessa's an MC. That's that's interesting. Vanessa's a producers like yo,
Speaker 1: people sleep on finess Like that's the only persons like yo.
Speaker 1: He hit everything that I don't think. I don't think
Speaker 1: people sleep on for nes. I think that he's a
Speaker 1: sleep as a producer. I think okay as a producer,
Speaker 1: but I don't think people doc I would think that
Speaker 1: his skills as an m C is so much at
Speaker 1: the forefront. A lot of.
Speaker 11: People time you don't remember or they forget, forget people
Speaker 11: don't know where it's like yo, if MC skills and
Speaker 11: producer skills like yo, I would go with with the
Speaker 11: producer first, because it's like, yo, he makes those hit
Speaker 11: records and you know like when Channel ten, it's like yo,
Speaker 11: he bodied that, and it's like yo, I'll be like Yo,
Speaker 11: how the fuck he did that?
Speaker 1: Ship? You know? And that's that all right? Big yell
Speaker 1: or biggie, both of you answers I'm drinking and that
Speaker 1: I'm drinking. I'm a big, huge, bigl fan. Too big
Speaker 1: because of the bars, right, and Biggie because of the
Speaker 1: hit records. No, I'm saying because like he'll he'll make
Speaker 1: you dance, He'll make he'll make it big, yeah big,
Speaker 1: you know that. That's that's his key. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He'll make the hot album be like yo,
Speaker 1: you know what. I'm listening to this from one to
Speaker 1: But he also had Diddy Man like did he one
Speaker 1: thing about did he he made everybody sound? No? No, no,
Speaker 1: no no no? Did he did? He would like pick
Speaker 1: the beat, you know what I'm saying. The song it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know that's dope. We're gonna run with this ship.
Speaker 1: But it's after every everybody done the whole the whole album.
Speaker 1: But it's like he gets credibly like, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: did he did the album? You know, he't do the album?
Speaker 1: He picked he picked a single, you know. But the
Speaker 1: person who's like yo being in Bad Boy, like sometimes
Speaker 1: like Yo, they'll let whoever be like YO, do your song.
Speaker 1: Oh you know, I'm gonna pick the single. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: That's when when when Rob picked, when did he picked
Speaker 1: all Joy? He's like, yo, oh we're ready to go,
Speaker 1: ready to go, you know, the video and all, and
Speaker 1: it's like that's that's all. But you think about it.
Speaker 1: Look at every artist is after they stopped fucking with Diddy,
Speaker 1: how their music R and B as well, total one twelve,
Speaker 1: all these groups he had faith, you name him. None
Speaker 1: of them was able to none, None of them was
Speaker 1: able to maintain listen, None of them was able to
Speaker 1: maintain the level of quality music after they left Diddy,
Speaker 1: not one, not one individual. And who was they working with?
Speaker 1: The hitman dependent Like if you don't, you're gonna you're
Speaker 1: gonna find where the heat is at. It's like people
Speaker 1: when they left Bad Boy, they left you know all together.
Speaker 1: It's like they they wasn't fucking with nobody, and it's like,
Speaker 1: that's what it is. It's like when you when you
Speaker 1: when you can do the hits, man, it's like the
Speaker 1: main leave bad Boy and retired nigga. They still right,
Speaker 1: he wasn't landing. But when you, like as I said,
Speaker 1: when you work, and it's a difference. It's like no,
Speaker 1: we nor were working with Prell and not we working
Speaker 1: with you know, Buck Waller, E's a l P Forrell
Speaker 1: is going to give him that you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like he's gonna give him the memorable joints and
Speaker 1: you know, like will give him an album. Cousin's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know you told niggas how to rhym on Neptun.
Speaker 7: Niggas ain't don't even think.
Speaker 1: When we when we did, not we? When you did?
Speaker 1: What what that shows? It's like, Yo, you got the
Speaker 1: chorus already. Story how that hook came up as funny
Speaker 1: and that I was counting count like that's the hook.
Speaker 1: This is the profession of a producer, like a non producer,
Speaker 1: like he'll he'll he'll correct your mistakes and he'll bring
Speaker 1: it out of you. And that's what it is. It's
Speaker 1: like they didn't have that ran after. They didn't want
Speaker 1: the best an rs have a lived. You got to
Speaker 1: think even before Bad Boy, this nigme was doing Joey.
Speaker 2: These were some countries I understand, but they like, I'll
Speaker 2: do you.
Speaker 1: Even before bad Boy, you gotta stand and he did,
Speaker 1: Mary J. Blige, Jo Father m C.
Speaker 2: He was showing these.
Speaker 1: Motherfuckers really how to dress, what kind of records to do,
Speaker 1: like did He's you can't take nothing away from Paul
Speaker 1: MC is still touring too right now, ye biking them
Speaker 1: up like.
Speaker 2: When I'm there, and it's like it was like a fake.
Speaker 1: Big Daddy came to me. I never he came up
Speaker 1: first though he didn't. He came from Yo. These people,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think so King was first. Let's
Speaker 1: let's look at look it up. Kane was first. Came
Speaker 1: King had to be first. Believe King. I believe so.
Speaker 1: I'm like Big Daddy, Father m C, like Nola Town
Speaker 1: like that. Nigga's trying to be kne when I've first
Speaker 1: seen his first video. Oh I don't fuck with this.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's close. Huh damn, what are you typing? Bro?
Speaker 1: You were there, You're saying has like once upon a
Speaker 1: time following just rapping with Biers and all that, that
Speaker 1: was eighty six. Yeah, okay, three years. You see what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Close.
Speaker 3: I mean back then that wasn't closed, but nowadays that
Speaker 3: would be closing, all right?
Speaker 1: So next one, Yeah, I think it's the photo se
Speaker 1: still on.
Speaker 3: Tour MPC three thousand or NPC two thousand, Excel.
Speaker 1: The studio.
Speaker 2: For the studio for them things.
Speaker 1: If if we got to, if we gotta go through
Speaker 1: the two thousand, in the three thousand, I will go
Speaker 1: to the two thousand. Okay, So me, who.
Speaker 2: Would you what would you prefer those?
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not a producer like that, but you
Speaker 3: know how to use both machines, right, not at all?
Speaker 2: Let me ask you buck, producer or beat maker?
Speaker 1: Me? Period? Yeah? What do you prefer? Producer? What's the
Speaker 1: difference between a producer and the beat maker? He just made?
Speaker 1: Like a beat maker just makes beats and think and run.
Speaker 1: But a producer, like yo, he'll he'll sit there and
Speaker 1: it's like he'll craft it, like when we do CNN.
Speaker 1: I learned producing like yo, you know what? I learned
Speaker 1: how to cultivate be like yo, you know what just
Speaker 1: how the song re orchestrated, and that's what it is.
Speaker 2: Producer is like.
Speaker 3: Like a producer doesn't even have to be the one
Speaker 3: that makes.
Speaker 1: The beat in some instances, yeah okay. And he could
Speaker 1: tell be like, oh, you know you played us, you
Speaker 1: play this because it's funny. Well yeah, yeah, get this
Speaker 1: album with songs.
Speaker 2: And I hate you know.
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm the best rabbit, but I'm think
Speaker 1: I'm a pretty good rapper.
Speaker 2: And he would be like, nah, that ain't it.
Speaker 1: Do that? Do that over and I'm like the overall worse,
Speaker 1: the bars, everything worse, and I'm like, son, this is fired.
Speaker 1: He like, trust me, I know your potential. I know
Speaker 1: you could do better. And a lot of producers just
Speaker 1: gonna give you the beat and let you do what
Speaker 1: as the fuck you want and then never you have
Speaker 1: to hear from the motherfucker again. And he was like, nah,
Speaker 1: you gotta eat. I know your potential. I know that
Speaker 1: that it ain't it, ain't it. And I would love
Speaker 1: me in the studio every single time. Every single time
Speaker 1: he told me that, I went back and I went
Speaker 1: back and changed whatever he told me. He was mad.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I thought my words was better I'm like, I
Speaker 1: had it. That shit was perfect, and he's like, nah,
Speaker 1: trust me and the songs we've done, it's like, you
Speaker 1: know this got me.
Speaker 2: Doing Ship four five. I'm like, I'm not doing this, sire.
Speaker 1: I think that's missing though right now, that people don't
Speaker 1: hear about the creativity no more. I don't want to
Speaker 1: say maybe eighties nineties that producer era. The producer was
Speaker 1: nineties and two thousands, the biggest ego in the room
Speaker 1: at that time, saying this is how it has to
Speaker 1: be done and getting the best out of the NBC
Speaker 1: as the artist.
Speaker 3: So you know, we we we kind of imagine now.
Speaker 1: The producer is quite scared of these artists now, like he's.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna they don't give a ship like.
Speaker 1: Scared of I'm just giving the bag marking out. You know,
Speaker 1: hold on, let me ask you just blaze, oh buck
Speaker 1: whow oh ship, Just blaze saying that, I said, for some.
Speaker 2: That's crazy, that's fun.
Speaker 1: You gotta say both. Let's take a drink. Yeah, say
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say both. Just blaze, man, he answered honestly
Speaker 1: with his crewmates. You know what it is now, what
Speaker 1: it is about justice? Justice, just a freaking nature though,
Speaker 1: like just Blaze is MIDI compatible. Nigga's like a machine.
Speaker 1: He's not human in a sense like this nigga just
Speaker 1: I think he's like a robot and ship. So it's
Speaker 1: kind of not fair to compare that nigga to nobody
Speaker 1: because but the same time, like the soul that Buck
Speaker 1: puts in his music, Like I did a whole album
Speaker 1: with Justin. Buck did one song album and that was
Speaker 1: my favorite song. So it's kind of hard to really
Speaker 1: And I'm like, because his music got a lot of
Speaker 1: soul in it, like when he dig like he did
Speaker 1: like and he chopped it up. Not to say just
Speaker 1: music don't because you listen to Blueprint and all that
Speaker 1: sh he does. He's a soulful guy. But he could
Speaker 1: do it without the vocal samples. Like a lot of
Speaker 1: times people need them vocal samples to bring to make
Speaker 1: it sound soulful.
Speaker 2: They speed him up or they slow them down.
Speaker 1: He doesn't just the sound beat, you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying to make you feel like, oh this ship ship
Speaker 1: hit me here. But I think that's the hardest step
Speaker 1: was the album bro, I fucked up? You do a
Speaker 1: certain part you know well, because it's like all here
Speaker 1: just shp and be like, oh man, it's crazy. And
Speaker 1: he'll probably hear some ship and be like, yo, you
Speaker 1: inspired me. And it's like the inspiration is like from
Speaker 1: you know, from that you know, and that's that's it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well just so you know, you inspire a lot of people.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, he's been spotting.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That's right next, don't kill me.
Speaker 1: Just red alert Capri, Right alert, right alert, That's that's
Speaker 1: that's I love Capri, but right alert Capri. He just
Speaker 1: liked being different. He wasn't the I C C JAB.
Speaker 1: I feel like he was those of the crew, like
Speaker 1: Ki Capri is like yo, he like he had a
Speaker 1: party rocking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no listen Capri, no, no doubt.
Speaker 1: But it's like red alert. It's like alert or the radio.
Speaker 1: You gonna be on the radio.
Speaker 2: But let me just tell you something.
Speaker 1: I'll be I'll be in certain towns and Kicking will
Speaker 1: be DJing.
Speaker 2: I won't even text him.
Speaker 1: I'll just go in and just have a great fucking time,
Speaker 1: like like, and I'll be sitting there like he can
Speaker 1: rock any crowd. Can I tell you? Kicking pre can
Speaker 1: rock any crowd, any crowd. And I'm not saying I
Speaker 1: read Alert, because I'm not. I know that's like a cravison.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying read alert. Can't I just say I
Speaker 1: have been to witness it. I've been in from from
Speaker 1: you know, a trinidaddy and party to a Haitian party,
Speaker 1: to a Jamaican party to a straight up R and
Speaker 1: B party to a rap party, and Kicking Prix does
Speaker 1: them all the same way he destroyed. I was thinking
Speaker 1: all also thinking about the impact they had in the coature,
Speaker 1: right because Red Alert put us on radio. Niggas just
Speaker 1: stay up in late at night to listen, and without
Speaker 1: Read Alert, we wouldn't have Kicking Prex on Mario exactly. Comedy, Yeah,
Speaker 1: said Mark. I meant, I meant comedy jah the whole book.
Speaker 1: That's his verse on Wren. That's kpri Now.
Speaker 2: Somebody said that wasn't him.
Speaker 1: Who who he's sued for it? Somebody said the original
Speaker 1: one was and then they sue the cole and one
Speaker 1: of them nigga said it was him. That's it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: said yeah, I believe it's on last said he did it.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But what I was talking about, when I stay right alert,
Speaker 1: you gotta understand, like, well, yeah, the whole Boogie dam Productions,
Speaker 1: Fucking Boy Ship Vio, bringing in Baby Jump and bring
Speaker 1: the whole brother everybody came through. I dig that, but
Speaker 1: like is the party guy and the mixed guy, Like
Speaker 1: a person's talent is noted where it's like in a party.
Speaker 2: So you DJ, you want to rock the party.
Speaker 1: Not the radio. Some dudes on even some dudes on radio,
Speaker 1: even on the radio, like Yo, Kick Capri is a
Speaker 1: monster on the radio. He plays Ship like the album cuts.
Speaker 1: It's like he'll he'll do something else like Yo, He's
Speaker 1: he's crazy at the age Dessert Nigga would personally, I'll
Speaker 1: be honest, sweet again you know alres my o G.
Speaker 1: But at one point it was this biggie had this
Speaker 1: this song called machine Gun Funk. Before that came out,
Speaker 1: that was it was a wee spot called Three Wives Men,
Speaker 1: and we used to get there, used to get the
Speaker 1: bootle Funk. We used to get the machine Gun Funk,
Speaker 1: and we used to get there and we used to
Speaker 1: get a kicking pre tape and us coming from Queens
Speaker 1: buying a kicking pre tape, we felt like that was
Speaker 1: our outfit. That's how much Kicking pre tape met back
Speaker 1: then like dress, I had to have a new kicking
Speaker 1: to normal. I had to have a new kicking bretape,
Speaker 1: I sweeter. I had to go up Queen you talking
Speaker 1: about around mixed every Ca Capre tape and it's like
Speaker 1: completely I had. I had a Ca Capri dynasty like
Speaker 1: whatever you call a collection where like crazy, like every
Speaker 1: tape like I would walking and be like, yo, what's new,
Speaker 1: and it's like they pull on. Did you wait up
Speaker 1: late at night and taking press record and wait for
Speaker 1: red alert? Yeah, you got met the cushion in your
Speaker 1: team and make sure that's it, and then wake up
Speaker 1: to see what you caught. The grades whom he was broken,
Speaker 1: who made a little bit more money, that's exactly like
Speaker 1: all night like this, that's enough because we had enough
Speaker 1: on her. He was talking about the poorestakes, But I
Speaker 1: didn't you want to charm in and be like I thought,
Speaker 1: because the way he described it was as if it
Speaker 1: was only DJs who did that. Everybody, Well, the thing
Speaker 1: is making real posit mistakes. We would have two double
Speaker 1: deckers and you would manipulate the ship. You know what's crazy.
Speaker 1: One of my first, one of my very first top
Speaker 1: ten songs because I see he'd be getting slacked lately,
Speaker 1: is my guy Kwaime?
Speaker 12: Like like.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I don't know he was ready
Speaker 1: to get what is it? Because I see him explaining
Speaker 1: himself on sway like okay, big did this you life
Speaker 1: has played out? Caught me able to But look at
Speaker 1: all the other lines in the pop that was bigging
Speaker 1: you up like like a man.
Speaker 13: Yeah, Like I remember saying he's dope man, because like
Speaker 13: even with the big thing, like he just shrunk that
Speaker 13: off with get along with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is dope, is amazing, Like I wanted to
Speaker 1: come through man. I was like, that's this ship is impressive.
Speaker 1: Make you become a fan again like Kame was always fine.
Speaker 2: They looked the same too.
Speaker 1: Hey look sir yea he got the Poka Doon ship
Speaker 1: to rocking at it again? Where the mommy, like you
Speaker 1: gotta ship back. I would have ran with that ship
Speaker 1: to like that it's my ship. Ain't take that clock off.
Speaker 1: Lave got the clock. I got the dots, nigga funk
Speaker 1: back words O C or a G ding. That's for
Speaker 1: you brother s, you like putt niggas on the spot,
Speaker 1: by the way, we need O C and show business.
Speaker 1: A g on here, facts, facts, come get your dope,
Speaker 1: dope m cs bro Frank White, Anino Brown.
Speaker 2: I gotta go with Nino.
Speaker 1: Yep, even though you're at it, It's okay. He's he's
Speaker 1: a good snitch. In the way you did that. Nigga said,
Speaker 1: I ain't going down with myself. He said that pretty
Speaker 1: mother good class. Yeah, right there on the stage right.
Speaker 1: Frank White is real and Nino browns faith. But Frank
Speaker 1: White is real. I think Leo Brown, Nina Brown is
Speaker 1: Frank Money Vaughan's Nino Brown is supposed to Nick. You know.
Speaker 1: It was a mix up from Detroit Brown. They they
Speaker 1: made it. They it's like Star Phase. They said that
Speaker 1: after they indicted Frank White, you know from Blue Magic. No,
Speaker 1: that's that's Frank Yeah, because he missed that movie. But
Speaker 1: you know Whatino Brown man, Nino, Nino was a ruthless motherfuckers.
Speaker 1: Cancel that bitch, Cancel that Fino. Don't give a fuck. Alright, WHOA,
Speaker 1: I got a story to tell. Oh, take a drink,
Speaker 1: they can drink a little drunkigg eaty one, I got
Speaker 1: a job. Get a niggas eat one all right, Analog
Speaker 1: or digital, both the analog.
Speaker 2: Analog and digital.
Speaker 1: I'm going digital sound sound wise and analog with all
Speaker 1: that carrying. The motherfucking I'm carrying them too for them reals.
Speaker 1: It sounds like you confuse. Take a drink, sir, I'll
Speaker 1: take a ship. You said both. You said analog because
Speaker 1: it is you look at analog digital ship with all
Speaker 1: that carrying, all that ship. You love analog because you
Speaker 1: We couldn't do a song together back then unless we
Speaker 1: was in the studio together. So you got to smell
Speaker 1: my izzy mi JACKI. You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: got to smell you Jake it you eating. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You got to smell my teacher on
Speaker 1: it for your colden West. If you want to punch
Speaker 1: you punching nigga and the taste watch they got to
Speaker 1: rewind it. Watch you. I really think I knew how
Speaker 1: to not punch in because of that, because excuse me,
Speaker 1: I know I know how to flow all the way
Speaker 1: through because I hated punching it like you have to.
Speaker 1: The engineer will literally have to say you sure you
Speaker 1: want these eight bars? Yes, I want these eight balls.
Speaker 1: You're going to add the other eight bars. They would
Speaker 1: have to take it, to take, to take, lose your
Speaker 1: moment to you don't right right right, and now like
Speaker 1: oh you know, just copy and paste this ship, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not to wate studio Digital made anybody be able to
Speaker 1: do it too. That's kind of we made it whack too,
Speaker 1: like anybody got pro tools and were like the middle
Speaker 1: ground when we had that tape, me after somebody real quick.
Speaker 1: Because of our first studio let mean excuse me, my
Speaker 1: first album, he taught us not to waste studio time,
Speaker 1: like so who tragedy tragedy every time my rhymes wrote everything,
Speaker 1: I knew exactly what I was doing. I never wasted time,
Speaker 1: like if I had eight hours, I used old studio.
Speaker 1: That's what was the thing. It's like, you know, studio
Speaker 1: was so expensive. It's like, oh you know what, I
Speaker 1: can't waste time, you know, And that's it. That's that's it.
Speaker 1: Studio was the original gatekeeper. You had to really want
Speaker 1: to be in this stiff because you had to invest
Speaker 1: everybody if you ain't. Yeah, but it's like everybody was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, dudes, be like, oh, you know, I did
Speaker 1: ten songs to day in the studio.
Speaker 2: Two songs. That's all like the.
Speaker 1: Real, the real be like, yo, you know what hold
Speaker 1: only only holding two? And it's like if you got
Speaker 1: to buy another reel, that's what.
Speaker 7: You like.
Speaker 1: Until I moved to Florida, I swear to god, I'm
Speaker 1: not playing around. Until I moved to Florida, I didn't
Speaker 1: know people didn't record five records at night. Like I
Speaker 1: was like, I would not go to the studio. Let's
Speaker 1: I record? Yeah, I mean obviously, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Because once it went from analog, and
Speaker 1: I already have my ROMs, and when it was digital,
Speaker 1: I was making was already. I was like, so until
Speaker 1: I got out here, I seen somebody like, excuse me,
Speaker 1: not got out here because I wasn't living out here
Speaker 1: at the time. Until I got to the it wasn't
Speaker 1: even the head factory because the criteria criteria. And I
Speaker 1: would see your motherfucker make a record and go outside
Speaker 1: and smoke a cigarette, and I was like, oh, you
Speaker 1: don't go back in, you do? You just make the
Speaker 1: record and you're cool. And I'm like, oh, I'm you know,
Speaker 1: that's crazy, and I'm gonna come out here and play
Speaker 1: some five songs in the night. When it's like we
Speaker 1: was ah fact for me to do.
Speaker 2: That analog on analog. Okay, he's a beast, Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Just running through it. They don't put up another beat man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I imagine was doing that too. The same had to
Speaker 1: be knocking out more knocking him A had had Pop
Speaker 1: I'm about coming home from jail Pop had two studios
Speaker 1: like yeah and another SSL. While you're doing the beat
Speaker 1: in hand, you know, I'm gonna do the vocals and
Speaker 1: when you finish the beat, I'm gonna jump in hand
Speaker 1: And it's like, that's what podcast. You know what I
Speaker 1: heard about Tupac which made it interesting. They said once
Speaker 1: he was done with a song, he wouldn't listen back
Speaker 1: like film, he ain't gonna live at that from him.
Speaker 2: That's great.
Speaker 1: That's a good idea. You can get listen to the
Speaker 1: same song for man because you know why we're on
Speaker 1: the first fan. Yeah, you're right, like you would never
Speaker 1: grow out of being your own first fan, right like
Speaker 1: everyone everyone thinks that this. No, it starts with you,
Speaker 1: your confidence. It starts with you when you're listening into
Speaker 1: your beat. So if you sit there and you just
Speaker 1: keep listening, you'll listen to that ship all day. Like
Speaker 1: I don't if I think a record about a fucking
Speaker 1: lighter right now, I'm like that, Just keep listening because
Speaker 1: I love you know what I'm saying. But it's like
Speaker 1: even instrumental, like we do that ship too, like no shame.
Speaker 1: People probably be like, oh, big up not seeing my
Speaker 1: ship while like twenty times in a row, and you know,
Speaker 1: when you're done it, it's like, yo, I want to y'all,
Speaker 1: I need to give these records back. You know. It's funny.
Speaker 1: These young kids, they I don't even think they sit on.
Speaker 1: I think as soon as it's done, they put it.
Speaker 1: They mix. They don't.
Speaker 4: Clean version.
Speaker 1: I mean you can put it through NB. A young
Speaker 1: boy got like seventy five albums. I think, like like
Speaker 1: the young Nick Russell was like on my eighty six LP.
Speaker 1: They don't have experience, say, I don't think they have
Speaker 1: experience teaching where it's like to meticulous, like meticulously like
Speaker 1: you know, to judge, and it's like the judging is
Speaker 1: like that's the part where it's like, nah, you know,
Speaker 1: I could do that better, and it's like yo, you know,
Speaker 1: oh you know, yo, I laid this verse next song.
Speaker 1: It's like that's how they figure, you know, you need
Speaker 1: to be.
Speaker 3: Plus the streaming era. It's like it's a numbers game.
Speaker 3: They're just not play the numbers. The algorithm I'm throwing
Speaker 3: keep throwing out. But it's unfortunate enough. It's unfortunate like
Speaker 3: it waters a lot of it is. It's a lot
Speaker 3: of garbage.
Speaker 2: It makes it so much because they keep doing the
Speaker 2: same ship over and over.
Speaker 1: You can't be that good the way you could turn
Speaker 1: out fifty five albums all be hot. Nobody look at
Speaker 1: the music industry like it's like it's like going to
Speaker 1: Costcos now right, Like you go to Costcos you just
Speaker 1: want to plant, but you end up but you get
Speaker 1: off it peanuts, clothes, watermelons, TV battery Okay, like hands
Speaker 1: turning that bitch. You can't hit for a plant. It
Speaker 1: was fucked up about that plant. The plant is all
Speaker 1: the way in the backs. So to get to to
Speaker 1: get to the plant, which you just came there for,
Speaker 1: you got to pass to a whole bunch of bullshit
Speaker 1: ship that you don't want, but you timpted because it's
Speaker 1: one thing that like, all right, that's just y'all, Like
Speaker 1: something like a cold, cold car that holds your phone
Speaker 1: like and you're like, okay, this is I want to
Speaker 1: watch super Bowl like and then you wind up. But
Speaker 1: that's what the music industry is. Like. It's like sometimes
Speaker 1: you just want to go and just get like like
Speaker 1: like my mom my ship downloaded the other day and
Speaker 1: I wanted to hear shot, right, so I go on,
Speaker 1: I pressed ask Oh my god, that's like I didn't
Speaker 1: even allow me to press as a like they were
Speaker 1: just like yo, like, So that's what That's what the
Speaker 1: music industry is. There's still great products out there, it's
Speaker 1: just all in one. It's oversaturated. Man, it's just one warehouse.
Speaker 1: You gotta know what they get there. When I'm getting
Speaker 1: like that. It almost like cable TV. Remember cable TV
Speaker 1: had like sixty channels because we hold niggas.
Speaker 2: Remember the eight channel when we were growing.
Speaker 1: Up, they had to play the boy channel. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: play boy. That was called soft horn right, No, no,
Speaker 1: that was the real thing. He was doing it right.
Speaker 1: Benny Hill, Remember Benny Hill? Yeah, man, man, yeah, let
Speaker 1: me tell you something.
Speaker 2: No, let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: Can Benny Hill exists? No way, he would not exist,
Speaker 1: None of them niggas could exist. Martin Downy Yeah wow,
Speaker 1: chie Bunker Bunker was raised, said he's some miles today.
Speaker 1: When they pleaded looking woke, yeah, he said. He said
Speaker 1: to the lady, he said, so, who does all the
Speaker 1: cookies in your house? She says, my husband does. He goes,
Speaker 1: are you worried about that? Like people will find out?
Speaker 1: And then she goes, she goes, what that that I'm
Speaker 1: a lazy wife. He goes, no that, I'm like, yo.
Speaker 1: It just was Ralph Cran, the famed nigga too, Ralph
Speaker 1: crand that used to be like Alice one year to
Speaker 1: his wife, You're not gonna he was domestic bobu. He
Speaker 1: was a domestic violence like I was about it and
Speaker 1: then and then I ain't gonna lie. And he was Jefferson.
Speaker 1: He gotta remember that nigga. You gotta remember that was
Speaker 1: in Queens, you know, so we're gonna remember George was
Speaker 1: on the east side. Yeah, and he left the east side.
Speaker 1: East side was still Harlem. Queens was Dame Queens because
Speaker 1: the actual Queen came from England and then they visited
Speaker 1: there and I believe the King went to and that's
Speaker 1: why they called the King's County. Right, So these guys
Speaker 1: this is now, this is this is how it beats queens.
Speaker 1: This is usif Hawking's queens will and they're making your
Speaker 1: race back then I'm talking about the Going Hall. It
Speaker 1: was like did not like? Yeah, I remember saf and
Speaker 1: a sudden yo. And by the way, that that TV
Speaker 1: back then, bro, they can bring that back. We a
Speaker 1: little TV and we are over sensitive now went with
Speaker 1: certain ship. But because but like you said, because Ralph
Speaker 1: Cranny was threatening to beat his.
Speaker 2: Bitch up a night.
Speaker 1: He said, Alice, one of these fucking band full straight
Speaker 1: to the movie, like, you gotta knock him. You do
Speaker 1: that ship. Now you're getting canceled. You found it was
Speaker 1: the first Ike Turner. He was Ike Turner like motherfucker.
Speaker 1: But he was promoting his ship. I wasn't. I was mistake,
Speaker 1: my mistake, man, hold on, we're not doing a quick time.
Speaker 1: Let's go.
Speaker 3: Time was sling eighties and nineties hip hop nineties, nineties, nineties,
Speaker 3: Ya book all right? Joe and Jada are Cam and Mace.
Speaker 2: Oh that's a good one, man, God, drink, that's just
Speaker 2: got drink.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, drink you know you.
Speaker 2: No, I gotta respond, that's damn. I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1: Joe and Jada I like the I like, I love
Speaker 1: Cam and Mason's dynamic. But we always seen that because
Speaker 1: they did songs together, they were from the same cruise.
Speaker 1: We see their personalities, how dope their personalities is to
Speaker 1: get right, That's like, that's why I think it works
Speaker 1: because they friends, they grow together. Joe and Jada is
Speaker 1: like a few different worlds. They worked a lot together too. Really, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't really know, because it's like having Cam on
Speaker 1: the songs, like he's around, but it's like it's like
Speaker 1: we were probably like yo, you know what. Oh you
Speaker 1: know Cam is is doing too much or another excuse,
Speaker 1: but no, he's right like me being me being in
Speaker 1: the Bronx is like I spent time in hallm and
Speaker 1: it's like we're big ol and it's like I've seen
Speaker 1: I've seen the dynamics, what they was, what they could do.
Speaker 2: But you know what that got to do with this though, dude?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think it was making the Harlem reference
Speaker 1: about the Yeah, but that was.
Speaker 2: I mean to my point, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's the reason why I would give the edge to
Speaker 1: Joe and Jada because their chemistry for them, like you
Speaker 1: did some records together, but these dudes was challenge these
Speaker 1: guys just and then they play off each other really
Speaker 1: well with the cap shipp and here comes they got
Speaker 1: the flag they throwing the flawers. I knew's personality, I
Speaker 1: didn't know how dope Ma's personality is, and I didn't
Speaker 1: know how dope their personalities together it works like yeah,
Speaker 1: works for Joe and data. Joe Jada Jada is sometimes
Speaker 1: like offended by each other.
Speaker 3: And I like that.
Speaker 1: I like that, Yeah, I like that. I like that
Speaker 1: because Jada doesn't co sign and ship like this guy. Yeah, Joe,
Speaker 1: I know him his personality and I know Jada's personality,
Speaker 1: so obviously like you don't know the personalities like oh
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I don't know these niggas
Speaker 1: right like Joe AND's like and Jada like you know,
Speaker 1: I know both of the niggas talking about you don't know,
Speaker 1: like I know. Just the other day is like, you know,
Speaker 1: is it we don't sleep? What cap? Yo? When when
Speaker 1: Joe be saying ship like oh you know is that cap?
Speaker 1: But it's it's really real and it's like even Jada
Speaker 1: is like, oh you know this thing is capp and
Speaker 1: it's like you'd be throwing flags and ship all around.
Speaker 1: But Joe, Joe like it a purposely. He accepts it.
Speaker 1: Now that's what I like. Yeah, it's like, yo, they
Speaker 1: love me. Now he's going. He was like I was
Speaker 1: at Pablo escoballrid like what wild ship is joking saying, well,
Speaker 1: how funny is j when he.
Speaker 2: John does a kid who imitates them?
Speaker 1: So he goes like this, he goes, Yo, the US
Speaker 1: government inviting me the malls one time.
Speaker 7: Joe, He's like, so bround, just two hundred niggas. He
Speaker 7: said there was two hundred period people. There was a
Speaker 7: coaching nigga the blue.
Speaker 1: My tyson kids. I'm dying because the way Homeboys delivering
Speaker 1: the message he has Joe man again, I din't funk
Speaker 1: with drinks Champstown. I want Joey love everybody whatever drink
Speaker 1: said this the o G Joe, I love everybody game.
Speaker 1: I'm everybody. I'm happy to see. I'm happy to see. Okay,
Speaker 1: all these brothers excel and and do well after they
Speaker 1: had very luke for their successful rap. Figure out something
Speaker 1: else while you're older, like, okay, we can't, we don't
Speaker 1: want rap forever. Okay, this is something else but now
Speaker 1: it could be, you know, take care of our families.
Speaker 1: But now we could teach youngs about the coaching, like
Speaker 1: what're doing with us? And you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: People watch this ship and be seeing off. I don't
Speaker 1: learning ship. I ain't know. Like when I watch the
Speaker 1: show Seeing Quick and all these stories, I'm like, oh, Ship,
Speaker 1: I knew that.
Speaker 2: And I think I'm a hip hop historians.
Speaker 1: Everything the show. I love about this show. Yeah, it's funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love that show. Bro that that ship is fire
Speaker 1: like bleak ship too is killing I like everything. Let's
Speaker 1: make some more, all right, Ris alchemists, Yeah, I think alchemists.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Alchemist would shout out to alchemist too, though shout yeah.
Speaker 1: All right, Karris wanted chars want to Coolie rap damn
Speaker 1: drink drink rap, drink some monsco. So you said, who's
Speaker 1: your app Yes, he picked. Yeah, I'm gonna go Coolie
Speaker 1: Rapp too. Okay, you illmatic or ready to die damn
Speaker 1: you know, damn beyond popular belief, ready to die. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go allmatic just the way, just the way that
Speaker 1: you know, the feeling I got when I heard both
Speaker 1: of them for the first time, it was great. Now
Speaker 1: take my life. It's a movie, Like what the no lie? Like,
Speaker 1: I don't believe every story about Queen's Bridge, but Queen's
Speaker 1: Bridge is like it's like, oh it's made up place.
Speaker 1: It's a real place, but it's like the stories is
Speaker 1: like kind of made up. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: What do you mean? Like Memory Lane? It's like, you
Speaker 1: know a lot of those stories is like yo, they
Speaker 1: not real authentic story. But it's like when you listening
Speaker 1: ready to die, he's he's telling you what happens. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would argue you now is doing the same thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And you know what because Biggie mom Biggie
Speaker 1: Moms came out and said, I don't know what the
Speaker 1: fuck he was talking about, struggling ship one room shack
Speaker 1: and likes pre stylish.
Speaker 12: Him.
Speaker 1: He's the only child. Nigga never wanted for ship. The
Speaker 1: nigga want to play in the street on his own,
Speaker 1: not that he had to. Yeah, his mom said that
Speaker 1: let us say that ship he was creative writing.
Speaker 2: Drug Dealer and all that ship. That ship is real.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, yeah, you niggas so brad like you nor
Speaker 1: we like but let me just say, let me tell
Speaker 1: you something let me say something, let me say something.
Speaker 1: But Illmatic I was away when Ellmatic dropped, right, and
Speaker 1: I had been visiting Queensbridge prior to my incarceration.
Speaker 2: Right, I literally saw I didn't hear Illmatic.
Speaker 1: I saw it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like when I heard it, like I saw like you.
Speaker 1: Know how Donald goings, Donald going to like like you
Speaker 1: if you read the book, You're you're in Detroit from
Speaker 1: when you when you from.
Speaker 7: The NG Like.
Speaker 1: Like I came outside. I remember coming outside that yard
Speaker 1: like yeah, because we had Buckshot Shorty at the time.
Speaker 1: Like a lot of people of Black Moon, A lot
Speaker 1: of people think that at first they compared Big Tona's
Speaker 1: it wasn't Big to Nas. It was black Moon. At
Speaker 1: first that was like and then Big came and right right,
Speaker 1: it was bigger and then I ended up having too.
Speaker 1: It was like it was Biggis because it's like after
Speaker 1: that Biggiannas became cool. Remember that's why they said they
Speaker 1: were hanging out together. But at first it was it
Speaker 1: was black Boom. Biggie was that at that time, Nos
Speaker 1: and Big It's like everybody be like, yo, you know what,
Speaker 1: ready to die? It's like, oh, you know, ell Maddic
Speaker 1: and It's like that was a choice with like you know,
Speaker 1: listen niggas listen to it in a car. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's like that was a big thing.
Speaker 1: You know, I think what set what set bigger parts
Speaker 1: and remixes? Oh hell yeah one more chance pound Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: buff start remixing and records that niggas said the mixtape
Speaker 1: joints and Ship came out like the remixes took that
Speaker 1: to another level where he was going where It's like, yo,
Speaker 1: he was he was for the hood, like he had
Speaker 1: probably like seven records on the radio besides you know,
Speaker 1: one more chants and he like he he had street records. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I heard say that the other day, like yo, be
Speaker 1: in ill because it's like no no question was like
Speaker 1: and you could test like yo, people be like oh
Speaker 1: nas nas This is like oh nas is cool? Is
Speaker 1: crazy because Na's imagination. But Biggie he was like he
Speaker 1: was talking about real ship. You know, I think it
Speaker 1: Big wouldn't have died. He would have by far, said
Speaker 1: himself ahead of a pack of mcs as far as
Speaker 1: his creativity and big was and what do he died
Speaker 1: twenty four, twenty five. Young, Yeah, when you die that
Speaker 1: young twenty four. You look at twenty four year old
Speaker 1: right now. I wouldn't even fight it twenty four.
Speaker 3: That's why it's crazy when we like big they birth
Speaker 3: at the age of the It's crazy.
Speaker 1: That y they said it best, like Jay said it best.
Speaker 1: Who's the best? See Biggie Jay z and Os And
Speaker 1: it's like to this day we argue about that, you know,
Speaker 1: ready to die or illmatic? And that was so smarter
Speaker 1: Jay to put itself in that conversation. Oh yeah, that
Speaker 1: he didn't qualify like that was Jesus is marketing, bro.
Speaker 1: The genius is like yo. The album he did? You
Speaker 1: know that was that was another test like yo, you know,
Speaker 1: like reasonable doubt. It's like Yo, it's just as good
Speaker 1: and you can't say it's not good. It's amazing, absolutely amazing.
Speaker 1: You know what was the next album after that? In
Speaker 1: my lifetime? Yeah One Wan have some joints on the
Speaker 1: I believe by One was better than reasonable. I had
Speaker 1: to go back to reasonable Doubt to.
Speaker 2: Tell you the truth.
Speaker 1: It was really broken without time, I was really broke.
Speaker 1: I didn't understand none of that money, none of that money.
Speaker 1: I learned all these fashion brands and she wear, I'm like,
Speaker 1: is that she had Donna Karen and this and this
Speaker 1: and that, and I'm like, these niggas know a lot
Speaker 1: about fashion. I had to go back and the coach
Speaker 1: direction they taught us because it's like be he taught
Speaker 1: us like street ship, you know, you know ounces and whatever,
Speaker 1: and Nas taught us like different, like different you know key,
Speaker 1: like yo, you know street ship, And it's like Jay
Speaker 1: taught us like yo, you know the money. So when
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, you know if you if you get money, nigga,
Speaker 1: you like readables out to me to me ill Madica
Speaker 1: is the original good kid mad City. Yeah, I could
Speaker 1: see that because he was like telling the story like
Speaker 1: you said, apposed to all in this pack. From when
Speaker 1: I hear almost stories, I can see that compared I've
Speaker 1: been on the when I hear all the stories when
Speaker 1: people come back block. But NAS is like and another
Speaker 1: stratosphere and like Biggie like they artist is like they
Speaker 1: dope artists. But it's like they like Donald Goings and
Speaker 1: it's like Langston Hughes and it's like they are the
Speaker 1: cream of the crop. You know, Kendrick is mad cool,
Speaker 1: but Kendrick ain't no naws and it's like it's no
Speaker 1: Biggie and it's like and and I probably say, he'll
Speaker 1: probably say the same thing, you know.
Speaker 2: He like they was like yes ahead.
Speaker 1: It's like where it's like, oh, you know, good kid,
Speaker 1: mad City. I don't I don't know if if people
Speaker 1: are going to be listening to that and you know
Speaker 1: that fire bro.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I could argue that. I think that was crazy. I
Speaker 1: think he is. I didn't pretty easily easy.
Speaker 5: But today today's Nads and Biggie but not today's Kendrick.
Speaker 5: Well no, I'm just saying we're comparing it in that way,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But it's like you compare him the Naws and Biggie
Speaker 1: and jay Z, but you don't listen less generationally.
Speaker 2: A lot of above them.
Speaker 1: They put Kendrick above is above like since the second album,
Speaker 1: like he like he's yeah, he solidified himself as like yo,
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't want to be these thingers,
Speaker 1: you know, and and it's like this this is what
Speaker 1: it is. It's like he has so much skill where
Speaker 1: it's like yo, you know what, He's on another level.
Speaker 1: It's like he like he could be equal, like oh
Speaker 1: you know, Big jay Z and Odds and Kendrick and
Speaker 1: it's it's other people. It's like in the same place. Agree, Damn,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I just realized there's always a big three.
Speaker 1: Right back then it was bigg J, It's Crazy, Hendrick
Speaker 1: Draken and Jacole Cole. So we had to give a
Speaker 1: big three of Now like new artists. Is there anybody
Speaker 1: that you would know about Kendrick? No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's in the late thirties. Now, that's right, they're not you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they almost forty. So who's the new Who are you that?
Speaker 1: And tapped into what's going on? Are you?
Speaker 3: I just think there's so many artist is hard to
Speaker 3: be too much because this this lane of people, you know,
Speaker 3: this lane, this lane, and everybody's got their own time, different.
Speaker 1: Lane right right. It's true, Yeah, because you can't because
Speaker 1: Playboy CARDI I don't, Like.
Speaker 2: I said, I try to listen.
Speaker 1: I try to listen to that city because I'm like,
Speaker 1: how is he so fucking like all of these this
Speaker 1: guy's Yeah, But then I listened to the music and
Speaker 1: I was like, he's an old rapper. Who's that Playboy Cardy? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like I know he's been out for a minute, like
Speaker 1: ten years. Yeah, yeah, no, Now there's somebody we never
Speaker 1: heard of, like.
Speaker 2: Some kid named Zeddy.
Speaker 1: My daughter listening to this kid names that he's she
Speaker 1: she swears by him. I said, let me hear, just
Speaker 1: so I could know, because I'm going to if they
Speaker 1: rapping or if they mumble rapping, like what's what's hot
Speaker 1: with the kids? And he rapped. But it's like it's
Speaker 1: almost like some new qualmation. But I think we got
Speaker 1: to be cool because it's off that drill ship.
Speaker 3: It ain't that we gotta be careful with that old
Speaker 3: idea of what's hot with the kids, because that's that's
Speaker 3: also a problem.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, we keep referring to what the youth likes. This
Speaker 1: is just what's good because it's whatever they say hot good.
Speaker 1: Yeah the point there, yeah, between hot and good, Like
Speaker 1: that's the people get and they could be hot and
Speaker 1: be trying to be trash.
Speaker 2: Yeah, records playing.
Speaker 3: And just because a fourteen year old likes it doesn't
Speaker 3: mean that I mean it's good. We should be like, oh,
Speaker 3: I got accept that automatically, you know, right.
Speaker 2: But Rake's has been around what twenty years, sixteen seventeen. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so like this three.
Speaker 1: Where it's like they've proven success absolutely, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: but the next three is like, who's the next three? Damn,
Speaker 1: I don't think that half that track record think there'll
Speaker 1: be another three. The industry doesn't even get another EXXL
Speaker 1: come on or you don't even know if that that's good?
Speaker 1: The freshman the freshman ship right when the person come
Speaker 1: on the first one, first one, you can't even try.
Speaker 1: That's funny. You look at that cover, you look at
Speaker 1: who's still around, and you see how everybody maintained their career.
Speaker 2: It wasn't always through music.
Speaker 1: It was something else, Like boc was on the cover,
Speaker 1: Little Boozy Boost, it was Joel Ortiz, myself, who else
Speaker 1: was on the Gorilla Zoe Lou Paid Fiasco? So all
Speaker 1: these guys. I watched all these guys because they were
Speaker 1: my competition in my cop colleagues and time Piers right,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, in hindsight, like who went on to
Speaker 1: do what? Some of them dudes went like this? They
Speaker 1: had huge records. Know who else like the rich Richard's
Speaker 1: names on that bitch rich rich cover that too, So
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, he just like stopped doing music or whatever,
Speaker 1: the fuck him and polo for I don't know what happened,
Speaker 1: but then you all have big songs. Stop coming off
Speaker 1: so triggering me, that's the trigger. Yeah it is. Look
Speaker 1: Pat Joel, Crocodile, Young Doe. This was applies me plies Boomy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a that's a hell. That's tough. When that was tough,
Speaker 1: everybody it's great or something.
Speaker 2: Everybody on it was great in their own right.
Speaker 1: That's why I was like, I felt on and when
Speaker 1: they asked me to be on the cover, but I
Speaker 1: just be doing the TV ship. I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find another way to make ends meet when
Speaker 1: acting because the answer finish the finished quick time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go straight into that, all right. A tribe
Speaker 1: called Question Day Try Try not even close. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm both I'm gonna drink.
Speaker 1: They got a drink? Okay cool? Yeah? Really yeah? Do
Speaker 1: you think they like an with Try? Day is nice?
Speaker 1: I mean, and they definitely nice. They a legendary ship,
Speaker 1: but Trip does some things Day I can't do. And
Speaker 1: it's like they all native tones and it's like that's dope.
Speaker 1: They compliment each other. Yeah, all right. Ex Clan of
Speaker 1: Poor Righteous Teachers great, that's a great one with the
Speaker 1: red bill black the green with the key again, it's
Speaker 1: like just protect it like pie is like yo' it's
Speaker 1: hard to tell them. It's hard. It's not easy. It's
Speaker 1: it's it's easy to tell them apart. But it's like
Speaker 1: they do the same similar things. I love I love
Speaker 1: poor Righteous teachures to rock the spunky joint with Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the joint. What was the other one? Boe my
Speaker 1: queen that she was cool. But come on, man, brother Jay,
Speaker 1: I gotta go with brother j Man, I gotta go
Speaker 1: with brother band verb is it? You know? They both
Speaker 1: do the same thing and they give me the same feeling.
Speaker 1: Brother jameson the stick, Yeah yeah, brother the boons, No
Speaker 1: remember the so you say the boat? Okay, brother that
Speaker 1: you said both a lot of times, but politically correct, man,
Speaker 1: it's not politically the artist one. He did the Artist one,
Speaker 1: d J wise s and s Ranji Ranji I loves
Speaker 1: too for J bought the mix tape, the mixing like
Speaker 1: the blends, the blends blind tape, blind tape and the
Speaker 1: exclusive ships like that. It's like if I'm coping, Rang,
Speaker 1: I'm copping right. You want both? Yeah, So you're going
Speaker 1: both again, both styles. Yea, this nigga going both. The
Speaker 1: reason why I picked ran because Big said piece to
Speaker 1: rong G broocey Be.
Speaker 2: He didn say saying.
Speaker 1: Juicy your funk master Flex out to funk Master flex too,
Speaker 1: and I hate to see what he's going through. He's
Speaker 1: a number one who. The young niggas don't give flexing respect.
Speaker 1: They be talking about flexes flex Flex spoke master something.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 1: He's on the radio and miss flights because the master
Speaker 1: flester Flex. I got this record and I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't called my wife and said, listen, I'm missing this flight.
Speaker 1: I need to hear this record. You can hear it anywhere. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's not like hearing it in New York City. And
Speaker 1: has been times. FLEXM said pull over New York City
Speaker 1: and I'm the guy that pull over, Old you're driving
Speaker 1: pulled over driving Monsoon in Queens when they when they
Speaker 1: played Triumph like he played it, he played it for
Speaker 1: like an hour straight. Who flex Yeah, okay, yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: And that's that would be like, yo, I gotta hear
Speaker 1: this ship. You know what I'm saying. And that's the
Speaker 1: thing these records today is like Yo, they don't really
Speaker 1: have a replay value, so people be like, yo, you know, oh,
Speaker 1: Flex played my record like three times.
Speaker 2: I think if Flex was on it, you know Flex
Speaker 2: twenty times.
Speaker 3: Well, younger brothers are leaders of the new school.
Speaker 1: Oh ship, that's a good one.
Speaker 2: Damn bro, it's a hard one.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna go to I'm gonna go to the
Speaker 1: edge where it's like busting on. Yeah, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: with later even though Charlie Brown, you let me down
Speaker 1: because I thought you was gonna be up there with
Speaker 1: Bus like he had the person Charlie Brown.
Speaker 2: I thought he was gonna be a star.
Speaker 1: Who's that bron I mean he was a star back then.
Speaker 1: He was wasn't he wants the breakout out of leaders
Speaker 1: of news originally and then Bus can't bust it's too pold. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Bus had too much. Bus came and put your hands
Speaker 1: on my eyes. I think those were two personalities that
Speaker 1: living was for that.
Speaker 2: It was that scenario remix.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's what changed everything. Once he's when Thias
Speaker 1: like like by niggas you imagine that like Terry pet
Speaker 1: That session was though, like Bus is going like no
Speaker 1: one heard nobody wrong. Session was like, what we're supposed
Speaker 1: to tell what's making? What is going on? Then first
Speaker 1: lie Man Bus is one of them ones too, Like
Speaker 1: you just.
Speaker 3: Went a vm MA, yeah he wont Yeah, he gave
Speaker 3: him the rock the bells like whatever that but a
Speaker 3: huge honor like make.
Speaker 1: When you look at he went from p t A
Speaker 1: to that first Brown broke, it's just another case of
Speaker 1: that by school teacher. Didn't realize that that's crazy because
Speaker 1: it's like, Yo, they problem about school.
Speaker 4: Yea, well niggas ain't even get you were in school
Speaker 4: like this to send me that niggas had to do
Speaker 4: for me, I mean different leaders of the new school
Speaker 4: and he's graduated to be the O.
Speaker 1: G oh my god.
Speaker 2: Bus Bus is one of the ones.
Speaker 1: Like when I see these lists and I don't see
Speaker 1: Bus in the top twenty, I'm like, whoever made this
Speaker 1: list is non boyd bro and everything performance longevity you're
Speaker 1: talking to Like, yo, he was like, it's competitive, crazy,
Speaker 1: four different rappers competitive. Notice Notice nobody wanted that smoke
Speaker 1: on versus with Buster. No no, no, nobody said yes,
Speaker 1: Like he was like fuck niggas with that Chris Brown
Speaker 1: verse and I gotta go. Then I got to serve
Speaker 1: you over got a loan. It's like he like Terrece
Speaker 1: Cwford right now, nobody want to fight terror. I don't
Speaker 1: think you know, I ain't gonna locked. I'm like, he's
Speaker 1: too big. He never got hit that our roster told
Speaker 1: me that our group chat became racial. Oh yeah, yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: I wasn't you know all the blacks. I was like.
Speaker 1: I was like it was like some o J you
Speaker 1: know and black. I was like, I didn't see that
Speaker 1: part o J verdict when they showed it. All the
Speaker 1: white people are like, I'm like, Dan, all my race, bro, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. If you ever want
Speaker 1: to really see like like a like a race like
Speaker 1: a race thing, go watch boxing and like like like
Speaker 1: a Hooters style, not Hooters because I think Hooters closed now,
Speaker 1: but like I just want Hooters and closed. It's closed.
Speaker 1: Establishment is closed. I can make it. They're gonna make
Speaker 1: poters not you go there like like like two different racests,
Speaker 1: like a Mexican fighting a Filipino. You will never see
Speaker 1: how racist is like all the Mexicans coming up anywhere.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about any type you said. Neutral song one
Speaker 1: gonna be a two different races, two different people I'm
Speaker 1: told about. Oh my god, you will see how how
Speaker 1: how people pick a side. God, let's go right. You
Speaker 1: have TV raps, a video music box. Video is udio
Speaker 1: music box. Uncle Ralph, Uncle Ralph, this is the the
Speaker 1: VICTI shut up. This is the vid kid. Don't forget
Speaker 1: about the vid kids. That's where all of us got
Speaker 1: us from. You know, so we used to we used
Speaker 1: to turn the Channel thirty one with the You remember
Speaker 1: if you grew up in New York, Yeah, you had
Speaker 1: to put it on Channel you. Then you the little
Speaker 1: one that's said be man, fuck like.
Speaker 12: Yo.
Speaker 1: He put us on like every and it's like the
Speaker 1: whole New York and it's like the New.
Speaker 2: York was that drink shamp you? I just haund.
Speaker 1: Videos he did, Yeah, the videos he directs. I couldn't
Speaker 1: believe it. Man, boys, and all the videos lightly and
Speaker 1: it's like he did his thing. He did his thing
Speaker 1: and humble as fuckers, like yeah, man, with the videos.
Speaker 1: That's why I'd be like yo, Ralph, he said he
Speaker 1: said something on here that that fucked me up. He said,
Speaker 1: niggas didn't get videos back then. You would be lucky
Speaker 1: to get a video, Like everybody didn't get no video, nigga.
Speaker 1: You had to be a special, special motherfucker to get
Speaker 1: a video. I don't even need people quested the video
Speaker 1: records didn't play. It was Hall the way to play videos,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So he created that platform
Speaker 1: for us and then start directing the videos and giving
Speaker 1: like wu tang clean protecting that and all these videos.
Speaker 1: I ain't know he did on ship so he had
Speaker 1: the fucking the numbers on the side were going. He
Speaker 1: blew that ship up. That's crazy. That was another one
Speaker 1: of the ones Black thought of common, black thoughts, this nigga,
Speaker 1: this nigga, don't think you got to think about that.
Speaker 1: I got to think about it. Man. It's like black
Speaker 1: thought is one of the ones, and common is one
Speaker 1: of the ones. I love comment. But once ron Fest
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, when I wrote that ship for comment that,
Speaker 1: I was like what he wrote, glory glory.
Speaker 2: I wrote that whole for real, yeah said, And then
Speaker 2: the nigga cut dumb me.
Speaker 1: You said, I just had the ship. Want to grabby
Speaker 1: that nigga stoped picking up. You said, I got a
Speaker 1: nigga grabby You stopped picking up out the ron Fest
Speaker 1: was brutally honest Chicago nigga around, so he telling them
Speaker 1: Kanye stories.
Speaker 3: Bro, nobody know Kanye like he definitely know he got
Speaker 3: a drink. What you're saying, both yeah.
Speaker 1: I said both Yeah, the roots, my guy black thought
Speaker 1: and comment. You know what I'm saying, you got me?
Speaker 1: None of that.
Speaker 2: None of it resonates.
Speaker 1: Everything resonates like everything resonates, like yo, man, common sense
Speaker 1: going back to common sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, commons a beast.
Speaker 1: I used to love, I used to love it. I
Speaker 1: used to love it.
Speaker 2: I love I love, I love comment.
Speaker 1: And when Ron Fast told me that, like I'm an
Speaker 1: m c MC, if I hear that writing around, it
Speaker 1: takes so much away.
Speaker 2: From me as you was an m C because I'm like.
Speaker 1: Come on, bro, even in the nineties, a lot of
Speaker 1: people like you know, broke balls and ship and frames
Speaker 1: or whatever. It's a lot of people who had you.
Speaker 2: Know, nigga might throw you a line or right in my.
Speaker 1: Room, right in my wrong bro, Like yo, you know what,
Speaker 1: no one can't think like me, so how the hell
Speaker 1: you can? Sometimes? Like yo, you know, people put people
Speaker 1: putting the hook like it's different things.
Speaker 2: Different hook hook is different hooks that's not the verse.
Speaker 1: We m C. We we we started caring about hooks
Speaker 1: when we start learning about song structure and making songs
Speaker 1: for commerce. Be sides. I don't think we were wrapping
Speaker 1: in the hood. Nigga ain't going to the hook when
Speaker 1: he was in cycling. It was an inciphment and going
Speaker 1: to the hook like you don't want.
Speaker 2: That ship was for the for his records and ship
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: The next one method matter, Red Man met the Man.
Speaker 1: To me, I love red Man too, but method Man,
Speaker 1: I gotta go Red Man.
Speaker 2: This niggas.
Speaker 1: Like that. That's good Redman like super ill, like nothing
Speaker 1: but Clint Yo Memphis super ill too. So I was like,
Speaker 1: he gave you, he gave you your red Man to
Speaker 1: your method Man. So he who can I connect this?
Speaker 1: And who's your favorite m C and who can claim
Speaker 1: who you think is the best? Like technically skill wise
Speaker 1: like expected Deck a little bit expected Deck, look expected
Speaker 1: decks man.
Speaker 3: You said, technically, I think that's yo Jesus to you
Speaker 3: can't you.
Speaker 1: Could justect sleeping on ma bros. Be sleeping on but
Speaker 1: got the total package. You said, technically, technically he's a
Speaker 1: crazy m to teprobably be like Yo, I got white
Speaker 1: album blunts. I got fat bags of cloked and it's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: it's cool, like but this thing is like on Triumph
Speaker 1: expected Deck. Yeah, topically I work like with the PRESTI
Speaker 1: lence the hall. Haven't never learned. He went in on
Speaker 1: that ship too though that when protecting that he was
Speaker 1: a standout.
Speaker 7: He was.
Speaker 1: Playing, ain't nothing to fu we was waiting for. He
Speaker 1: was like the sticky fingers of Whu tang it won't
Speaker 1: p He was waiting for meth Park. But when met
Speaker 1: was in on the song, he was like, So we
Speaker 1: were jogging the other day listening to I Believe the
Speaker 1: thirty six Chambers and that skiit came on you. I
Speaker 1: was so embarrassed, like just jogging about waiting, Yo, I
Speaker 1: stabbed like, yeah, all the white people just turn around.
Speaker 1: That's funny. Are you talking about stabbing somebody in the nuts?
Speaker 1: And he said, man, he said, I I mushold, I
Speaker 1: look like Yo. They split their sharpest even to this day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they all Memphis Memphis super sharp. Still like he got,
Speaker 1: you know, saying he got better the same way because
Speaker 1: when I hear him wrapping like wrapp like the like
Speaker 1: the wrap the young like young spinners like you see
Speaker 1: the show. He can keep up with him. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I'm gonna wrap with some of
Speaker 1: these young dudes that I could.
Speaker 2: He could from the early nineties, Nigga is keeping up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we almost done us. Let's go man, nice smooth
Speaker 1: brand New, nice Oh ship you can answer like my
Speaker 1: favorite group, he said, brand New. You gotta drink, Nah,
Speaker 1: I gotta go, bro. You know that's still one that's hard. Bro,
Speaker 1: That's still one of the hardest lines ever. All the
Speaker 1: time the ball bounces, there's no bones and ice cream.
Speaker 1: You know it's crazy. I've been in the trailers and
Speaker 1: I've never asked the motherfuckers this ship been on the
Speaker 1: like hip hop Junkie's got to be one of like
Speaker 1: slow down and all that ship. But your ump is
Speaker 1: the illess was crazy, yo. But son wick Ye come
Speaker 1: on wick.
Speaker 2: Boom boom boom.
Speaker 1: Even though that's gangstar wrecking them, niggas made that. No,
Speaker 1: that was the summer refirm that was two summers in
Speaker 1: a row, like it was yesterday. Remember that rhyme about
Speaker 1: with Smoothie talking about the girls coke ship. Now she's
Speaker 1: on blow Yeah. Sorry, smoothie. I keep having business of snow.
Speaker 1: I mean blow, I'm not I'm not beat over. What's
Speaker 1: that song? I got to put sometimes around slow? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was one to Nice and Smooth, Nice Bro, Greg,
Speaker 1: nicest man. I think I got to drink today Anthem makers.
Speaker 1: I love brand Man. That's hard because I love you know.
Speaker 1: What's crazy? You know? I believe it was last year
Speaker 1: and Leo Colmes did event and he had all of
Speaker 1: us fly out. And what's crazy is I see like
Speaker 1: the people who's performing. I can't wait for Nice and Smooth.
Speaker 1: That's nice as move, what's coming out? I was going
Speaker 1: to I forget who I was going to give a
Speaker 1: five to. I know it's a very important person. As
Speaker 1: soon as Nicet Move came out, I had just on
Speaker 1: stage Greg. We need them on drink chaps as well.
Speaker 1: We've been trying to we were trying to do.
Speaker 2: Know this is buck first time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bro, I'm so glad to see this one, brother,
Speaker 1: because when when the guy was starring Buck, whow did
Speaker 1: you ever have beat for the dude? Buck? While no, okay, alright, cool,
Speaker 1: he was cool with him taking your name, he ain't
Speaker 1: take it. Yeah, let him use it like you used
Speaker 1: it like, Yo, you know what it's it's tip hop
Speaker 1: doctor dream doctor.
Speaker 2: Dream a right, damn, ain't think of that.
Speaker 1: Very true. Thank you.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 1: Good. The next good observation the last one he said, doctor,
Speaker 1: loyalty or respect?
Speaker 2: Loyalty.
Speaker 1: I don't think you can disrespect some money loyal to.
Speaker 1: I think if you loyal to somebody, you're gonna respect him.
Speaker 1: I think it comes hand in hand and vice versa.
Speaker 1: Com like you could be loyal and still respect me.
Speaker 1: And it's like it's like, yo, you know what I was.
Speaker 1: I was thinking, since enough show like Yo, that's a
Speaker 1: hard question because it's like Yo. On one hand, it's
Speaker 1: like yo, you know what if you loyal to them,
Speaker 1: It's like, yo, you don't disrespect them? Right? And I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: you know what I would be like, Yo, you know what? Right? No? Right?
Speaker 1: I just I think loyalty comes is both. Hell yeah,
Speaker 1: agree with you both. Except the hardest question the answer.
Speaker 1: That's when he said, answer, Yo, this is like, this
Speaker 1: is real. It's like, Yo, do I do I choose
Speaker 1: loyalty or do I respect? You know me? I believe
Speaker 1: all they all go hand in hand. But if I
Speaker 1: had to choose one rather. I know a loyal person
Speaker 1: is not disloyal, and I could trust him because you
Speaker 1: could trust a person that's loyal, And I don't know
Speaker 1: if I trust everybody I respect. That's real. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know that's real. That's trust. Trust is big, big part
Speaker 1: of being loyalty. Someone's like, you know your girl loyal,
Speaker 1: she can go out. You ain't worry about nothing like
Speaker 1: ain't nobody could call you and tell you your girl out,
Speaker 1: you can't. I know my girl she loyal. She she
Speaker 1: she might respect you, I might fight, she might call
Speaker 1: you a kind of bitch ass, but disrespect the If
Speaker 1: she's loyal, she ain't never gonna vioe loyal me, that's real.
Speaker 1: But so she loyal me. She might not be messing
Speaker 1: with another guy, but she might be out gambling with
Speaker 1: her girls. Now, if she breaking the trust while doing that, no,
Speaker 1: but if you ask hers she had to tell you,
Speaker 1: she didn't. She don't tell you, and that's something you
Speaker 1: don't on her doing. And I have got understanding and
Speaker 1: she does it, then she's not loyal. She's not loyal
Speaker 1: being disloyal. Okay, Well respect that. You think you and
Speaker 1: your girl might have a fight she might call you
Speaker 1: all kind of names and disrespect the shit out you,
Speaker 1: but she ain't gonna go fuck a nigga, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So she might disrespect you, she gotta
Speaker 1: go then just because of you out. That's it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like we don't. We don't tolerate cust me out to
Speaker 1: go sucking dick any like cuss me the fuck out,
Speaker 1: no disrespect. But it's like, yo, a person where it's
Speaker 1: like yo, you know, like females like it's underne love,
Speaker 1: but it's like they respect you to the fullest. And
Speaker 1: it's like a female won't want, you know, talk ship
Speaker 1: about behind your back. It's like what, like what kind
Speaker 1: of business? This is what I'm saying. I'm saying they're
Speaker 1: good at No. That's no, no, no, because like you
Speaker 1: like the dudes argue for real, Like Yo, there's some
Speaker 1: good ones out here, and you know you got a system.
Speaker 2: You got a system.
Speaker 1: That's why he's talking that listen love like something fun up? Yo?
Speaker 1: What's wrong with you? And they don't use logic. They
Speaker 1: don't care about listen, they don't care about making sense
Speaker 1: common sense? Are you like yo? Perfect people like the
Speaker 1: perfect example of what it is like, yo, I can
Speaker 1: trust them. It's like I'll do whatever for them. And
Speaker 1: it's like, yo, she she got my back. It's like
Speaker 1: you know, and I got out back and it's like, yo,
Speaker 1: that's it. Let's talk about the orthoorage. How did that answerage?
Speaker 1: How did you say there's a mistaken answerage? Yeah, ship
Speaker 1: ge robis to call me. He was like, Yo, Mark
Speaker 1: Warburg's on the TV show. You want to be on
Speaker 1: it or you want to audition for it. But it
Speaker 1: was between me and young Jez. Me and Young Jez
Speaker 1: was up for that part. And I was like nobody
Speaker 1: knew it was going to be a hit show when
Speaker 1: it was like, HBO has an idea? What did you want?
Speaker 1: Season three? Though two?
Speaker 2: Season two okay, he was early.
Speaker 1: On was pilot. Yeah. I was the first black person
Speaker 1: on outside outside of an extra walking in the back
Speaker 1: with lines. I was the first nigga with lines. Then
Speaker 1: bow Wow and fifty and on came after that. But
Speaker 1: I was I was there to build Turtles character, but
Speaker 1: you was actually a character roll. I was there to
Speaker 1: build Turtles character because like, we just got this nigger
Speaker 1: meandering around, right, I need to give him. Yes, it
Speaker 1: became my manager ship, which is shout shouting joy far
Speaker 1: hour good speak in real life. Yeah, that's my brother
Speaker 1: talking to moms, shout to Jakie's kids. Described how this
Speaker 1: mistake happened. So because I'm never I wasn't an actor.
Speaker 1: I never acted in my life. Okay with that, but
Speaker 1: you know it wasn't we got to act every day.
Speaker 1: But I'm real acting like that, but no, I never.
Speaker 1: I had never done that. So I was like, I
Speaker 1: was looking at it, like, they're not gonna pick me.
Speaker 1: I ain't. No, you went to Nah, had to fly
Speaker 1: to Hollywood and meet all these fucking real Hollywood motherfuckers
Speaker 1: and they're like, and the one thing I did that
Speaker 1: was smart.
Speaker 2: I think they had the name.
Speaker 1: I was like, if I get the park, can I
Speaker 1: use the name Saigon instead of whatever fucking name they
Speaker 1: had in the scrip was like a little little g
Speaker 1: or whatever. The fun I'm like, won't you let me
Speaker 1: use my real rap name? And that's the best move
Speaker 1: I ever made in my life. Well I say that,
Speaker 1: I mean think about it to this day, Yeah say
Speaker 1: I know, but yeah, to this day, when when that
Speaker 1: that that should opened some uf I go meet somebody
Speaker 1: and be like I'm sign. The first thing they say
Speaker 1: is like the guy from An. They don't even know
Speaker 1: it's me. Oh wow, like the guy from An, Like
Speaker 1: I'm you're sterious. I gotta tell them that's me. If
Speaker 1: you if you open like trapping tickets. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I could have been like I'm a little
Speaker 1: d from Aunt, like little bit like so that ship,
Speaker 1: I mean, that ship got you out of so much
Speaker 1: ship when I and that show was hot for like
Speaker 1: fifty show the greatest shows right now, right now they
Speaker 1: have a show on Apple Plus all the studio. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's rage. Have another to have. Uh uh running point
Speaker 1: on Netflix about the bus Family. Oh yeah, the Lakers,
Speaker 1: the bust family. Yeah yeah, writing for Entourage, Like you
Speaker 1: can literally see where they got the seas from, Like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like like Ellen shot Doug
Speaker 1: Allen and them guys. The writers see what HBO HBO does.
Speaker 2: They did it with all these.
Speaker 1: Shows, Sopranos, they did it Wire, they did it with
Speaker 1: Sex and the City. The first season they go get
Speaker 1: a bunch of C and D level actors so they
Speaker 1: ain't got to pay them really a lot, and they
Speaker 1: give the money to the writers so they go get
Speaker 1: these great writers who fucking write amazing shows. They be
Speaker 1: the ones making the two million episode while these actors
Speaker 1: be making a couple of thousand dollars, right, and so
Speaker 1: once the show becomes a hit, and are you locked
Speaker 1: in the contract, I'm gonna get four five seasons out
Speaker 1: of you before I really got to pay you like
Speaker 1: once once, once the's time to renegotiate.
Speaker 2: Now you know you a star.
Speaker 1: Now you come and be like, no, I need the
Speaker 1: big bucks now because I'm popping all around.
Speaker 2: Walk like god. Rest of the soul.
Speaker 1: His name James who paid Tony soprano Jane Grando. I
Speaker 1: can't pronounce the ship, but Tony Tony to them niggas
Speaker 1: was they was. We didn't know who to just Sarah
Speaker 1: Jessica Pok. He was fighting for them to get more money.
Speaker 1: The motherfucker. You know, look how many stars that the
Speaker 1: wire bro Michael B. Jordan's fucking uh, what's the nigga name?
Speaker 2: The talk old bitches like the album.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that nigga from London. I didn't either,
Speaker 1: the Bottom Batimore nigga. Man, they set it up with
Speaker 1: like you could get through. They didn't Those rights show
Speaker 1: that taking off.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, yes it is. It's it's genius.
Speaker 1: And yeah, that was that. That's why you gotta respect.
Speaker 1: They know what they fun they're doing over there. I
Speaker 1: was talking to Doug Allen and he told me, oh,
Speaker 1: and this is how Hollywood works. He said he was
Speaker 1: pitching the show to HBO after Entourage. He was like,
Speaker 1: after Entourage was such a success, I just knew they
Speaker 1: was gonna let me walk anything through these doors, like
Speaker 1: because because we had so much successful Entourage. And he's like,
Speaker 1: me and Mike Tyson did a show and we was like,
Speaker 1: I spent a million and a half dollars doing the
Speaker 1: pilot on one episode, million and a half and HBO
Speaker 1: was like, we don't like it, we don't want it,
Speaker 1: like a million half in a whole. I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: that's it. He was like, I just knew I had
Speaker 1: they was gonna green light it because of my past
Speaker 1: success with Entourage, and.
Speaker 2: You know, so this is that's how Hollywood shows the game.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I got a new showed outright that's super shock. It's
Speaker 1: called Graves and ya y'all watch Graves in a Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's about raised in Brooklyn So the show is
Speaker 1: about the mafia out you see that. It's like some
Speaker 1: new soprano ship. Okay, so it's out season, first season,
Speaker 1: the first two seasons out o season, which is that
Speaker 1: it's on Amazon.
Speaker 2: Graves in Brooklyn, Like Benson.
Speaker 1: Herrison'll show you all the guys in the mall that
Speaker 1: didn't really blow up, like everybody knew Gotti and because
Speaker 1: they was on TV. But there was a whole group
Speaker 1: of mafia and niggas who didn't never get like the light,
Speaker 1: the shine, who was putting in work. So this is
Speaker 1: drama like dramatic or dramatic. It's like sopranos, like sopranos,
Speaker 1: but it's like a realer version of sopranos. Like this
Speaker 1: is they talkt a my real guys from the neighborhood
Speaker 1: and yeah, I'm on there. Shot Shaquille O nails on
Speaker 1: there and I fight Shot. I be fucking this nigga
Speaker 1: is the strongest nigga in the world.
Speaker 2: Bro, what is Shot playing a firefighter?
Speaker 1: No? What is he playing in the show? He played
Speaker 1: some games. The nigga name Stapfa who cool with mob.
Speaker 1: Like so when the mob got problem with the Blacks,
Speaker 1: they'd be like oh, mustop into your people type ship
Speaker 1: like we don't want to smoke with.
Speaker 2: I believe Shock is a tough guy.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, because I'll be sucking that Yo, son,
Speaker 1: you talk, you know, I'm gonna tell you remember how
Speaker 1: many times you have to move his mic because he
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, we're like this. You did it like
Speaker 1: five times yourself, but I'm gonna tell you, crazy ship.
Speaker 1: And then we was we had a fight scene, right
Speaker 1: nigga wrapped his hand around my neck and the nigga's
Speaker 1: fingers touched in the back. In the back, I said,
Speaker 1: get the.
Speaker 2: Your nigga whole ship like this around my neck.
Speaker 1: Yo. I'm a I'm a pretty strong dude. I could
Speaker 1: not budge this motherfucker to the point where every time
Speaker 1: we would finish the scene one of them fight scenes,
Speaker 1: my fuckers, I had to come over and be like, Yo,
Speaker 1: you right, So I'm like, I'm good, I'm good, lying
Speaker 1: like a nigga choke win that his old Paul and
Speaker 1: he don't know his own strength. You know, Gorilla stript
Speaker 1: he might have Mountain Gorilla in his DNA, Like Nigga
Speaker 1: got boot stripped. Like I couldn't busch this thing, and
Speaker 1: I'm using, I'm trying, even trying, like he talking on
Speaker 1: a nigga like this what it is about? I'm like,
Speaker 1: you get the fun. I'm like, oh, that's why, niggas.
Speaker 1: This is the diesel for real but amazing individual man
Speaker 1: like who else is on there? So you shock me,
Speaker 1: Willie the Mayo like a lot of Manos on it. Okay,
Speaker 1: the guns is on. They've shocked cronies. They play the
Speaker 1: little home, Yeah, they play Yeah. He's looking the ordering
Speaker 1: yeah type ship and and they be fucking me up
Speaker 1: because every time I got to get it, get it.
Speaker 2: On him, he sending them little.
Speaker 1: Niggas like yolot nigga. But this is a great opportunity
Speaker 1: because working with my brothers, like I love man Or,
Speaker 1: I love Peter, but these are my friends in her life.
Speaker 2: I just met Shaq doing the show.
Speaker 1: I never known them or we established a relationship, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I'll be looking all this
Speaker 1: ship surreal. All this ship still feels sill. Even be
Speaker 1: here with you feel surreal to me. I'll be going
Speaker 1: home and be like, yo, I was just sitting with
Speaker 1: fucking Nor even working on him, doing the album with
Speaker 1: Buck Wow.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I had a fucking album with Buck Wow.
Speaker 1: I wanted them to do everybody else's on the set
Speaker 1: acting normal, and I'll be there like yo, starstruck, like yo,
Speaker 1: it's like working with some of this. But I didn't.
Speaker 1: I ain't know no black people was in here. Just
Speaker 1: come on season three Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't
Speaker 1: watch it, but you know it ain't no black peoples
Speaker 1: on that were coming season three. Every time I keep
Speaker 1: watching Seinfeld, I see more black people. Now.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, man, the oil and the engine.
Speaker 1: It's not like they made a different version of signing. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I just keep watching it because at first it was
Speaker 1: only one black person on sign for do y'all remember
Speaker 1: that person, the guy that owns the diner. At least
Speaker 1: they let him own the diner, the diner that they
Speaker 1: know they owned the dining. But it's like I didn't
Speaker 1: know who who, Like who works there? Are the black guy?
Speaker 1: The black guy owns it? Yeah? On the low? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they be changing up the apartment so son felt
Speaker 1: I never found I never seen friends Seinfeld, friends and
Speaker 1: Seinfeld together. I've never seen none of them. Listen, listen,
Speaker 1: this is this is why you first off. It all
Speaker 1: comes from Seinfeld. Everything Seinfeld. It was two guys I
Speaker 1: assumed Larry David and Richard I forgot his name. That
Speaker 1: passed away because that's what it's supposed to be. And
Speaker 1: they said, let's make a show about nothing. And they
Speaker 1: was like, okay, so what's it going to be about nothing?
Speaker 1: So what did you do today? I walked from my crib,
Speaker 1: I walked the door, and I went to We squired
Speaker 1: more and I got my friends clean. That's the episode
Speaker 1: hits biggest show in the biggest show in the world.
Speaker 1: And it's just it's the first version of reality TV
Speaker 1: scripted copy copy. You understand what I'm saying, Like, so,
Speaker 1: I learned so so much. I never understood the Like though,
Speaker 1: I'm like, why is this so? You never watched Kirby Enthusiasm.
Speaker 1: I heard that's that's the same guy. That's just that's
Speaker 1: the same verson. I love him so much. I don't
Speaker 1: want to meet him. Like the room lave, I would
Speaker 1: be like, especially if I could, if it's one exit out,
Speaker 1: then I'll be like, all right, cool, I'll say hi.
Speaker 1: But if I could exit, I don't want to meet
Speaker 1: my heroes New more New More. So you met it
Speaker 1: your heroes. Uh No, Well, at first, when I met
Speaker 1: Chris Rock was at a uh we was at a
Speaker 1: bon Jovie party ironically with with Leo Cons, Russell Simmons
Speaker 1: and Jimmy I Bean, and I was like, like, besides Russ,
Speaker 1: I was like the only black guy there. And then
Speaker 1: Chris Rock was hosted and Chris Rock said, uh, what
Speaker 1: is the world coming to? Oh yeah, what is the
Speaker 1: world coming to? I gotta take pictures with Nori And
Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't know if he was playing,
Speaker 1: because you know, he's a comedian, so I didn't know.
Speaker 1: But that was the first time I was just like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to meet too many people. There was
Speaker 1: a couple of others. It's just I just don't remember,
Speaker 1: like off top, but it was a couple of others
Speaker 1: where I was just like, hey, what's up. And it
Speaker 1: was like people were like I was just like, all right, cool,
Speaker 1: So you graduated from rappers, yeah, the actors whatever, like
Speaker 1: like is a matter like most people don't reciprocate the same.
Speaker 2: Type of love that you that you distribute, so it's cool.
Speaker 1: I can roll with it. No no, no, I never
Speaker 1: met MJ. No, No, no, I'm not picking up this
Speaker 1: story again.
Speaker 2: I'm good.
Speaker 1: I'm good. No, no, no, but that's that's a story.
Speaker 1: But that's not story with me. Like you know what
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 2: He ain't front of me. He's on hip hop.
Speaker 1: So before we get up out here, I want to
Speaker 1: run through the album, right, that's what you were here for, y'all.
Speaker 1: A new album, right, yes, So I want you to
Speaker 1: say something about it real quick as I want through
Speaker 1: the songs. So, y'all. Father talked part one the intro.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was just me just saying, let me
Speaker 1: just rap. But mind people, I can still rap. You
Speaker 1: named a lot of white women. Yeah, he was going on,
Speaker 1: I gotta I love I love the pink toes Man,
Speaker 1: you love. I like, I love it, not not not
Speaker 1: love him, but I like playing with him. I like
Speaker 1: when you rap because it's like yo, he like he
Speaker 1: breaks it down and he goes in. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's like in a way most people can't do.
Speaker 2: He got a fetish too for white women.
Speaker 1: This is a soul man. Tell we talked about y'all
Speaker 1: the soul man look. So we got we like pink
Speaker 1: to doctor Brother. It is doctor umar man. That school
Speaker 1: over another brother, Umar, doctor Kumar. We're still waiting for
Speaker 1: the school, but you are welcome here. Brother, you can
Speaker 1: school us. Yeah, and bring a white woman with you. Okay. So,
Speaker 1: dear God, you're still right?
Speaker 3: God?
Speaker 1: Do you still no? No? It's I talk. I pray
Speaker 1: every day. But on the first album, I did this
Speaker 1: song with marsham Brochs and it was.
Speaker 2: Like she came with it.
Speaker 1: Don't you remember you told me you love we was
Speaker 1: I write a letter to guard So I was like,
Speaker 1: when't we just double up on that record and be like, yo, that.
Speaker 2: Album was eleven years ago and the world's getting worse,
Speaker 2: Like what.
Speaker 1: The going on?
Speaker 12: Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Right there, bro like out of truth in the
Speaker 1: in the song, and it's like yo, Like I could
Speaker 1: say he poured his heart into it, but it's like, yo,
Speaker 1: you know what, Like he put a lot of truth
Speaker 1: into it.
Speaker 2: Because it's sad.
Speaker 1: I get sad seeing these young kids, like the young Dolph, Like,
Speaker 1: look at all of your nipsey hustle pop smoke. Like
Speaker 1: it's to the point now we so CNB Rocks, P
Speaker 1: and B Rock We're so desensitized to it now. When
Speaker 1: it happens it's like monthly Wizard kid named from from Dallas, Like,
Speaker 1: we're just sensitized almost like it's supposed to add supposed
Speaker 1: to get too terrible. Man, it's terrible. We had poking
Speaker 1: big stood out to us, and we ain't getting this
Speaker 1: game to die. We gain the ship to get away
Speaker 1: from that ship. You know what I'm saying. We left
Speaker 1: the streets to come in and prosper and read and
Speaker 1: move to the suburbs. Now these motherfuckers is getting in
Speaker 1: the game and dying young like babies like. And we
Speaker 1: look at it like, oh now, it's the disensitation to
Speaker 1: where we're not. We don't raise a big flagment that
Speaker 1: this ship gota. This ship is gotta stop. Us are
Speaker 1: the people because this is this is hip hop and
Speaker 1: all be based around the music. It always has something
Speaker 1: to do with some hip hop ship's destruction today. That
Speaker 1: will were the same way that when I say that
Speaker 1: shit all the time, I'm like, you put all these
Speaker 1: influential people right now on the song and tell motherfuckers yo,
Speaker 1: chill yo, we got to stop this ship. I've seen
Speaker 1: this ship with Michael Jordan one time, right and it
Speaker 1: made me lose so much respect for Mike as a person.
Speaker 1: I don't. Matter of fact, I won't say I lost
Speaker 1: respect for him, but I was sad. I was hurt
Speaker 1: by it. Where member kids used to get killed for
Speaker 1: Jordan's back in the day. They wanted him to do
Speaker 1: a press conference right and be like, Yo, we need
Speaker 1: you to tell these kids, these these sneakers ain't worth
Speaker 1: dying over. Like he was like, that's gonna take away
Speaker 1: the value the shoe. I ain't doing that, ship doing that.
Speaker 1: If I do I do that, I want to think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go down from a buck to sixty to forty.
Speaker 1: I ain't doing that. But they like they're killing them.
Speaker 1: They're killing each other over your sneakers. And he was like, nah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna and I'm sure it probably wasn't him, it
Speaker 1: was probably somebody. He was like, Bro, you can't do that.
Speaker 2: A couple of bodies ain't shit.
Speaker 1: And now when you look when we look at it
Speaker 1: like what drill music was and all this shit was,
Speaker 1: and we know who funds the drill movement, it ain't
Speaker 1: these kids. They don't got the money to push records.
Speaker 1: We know that. We know who push the buttons or
Speaker 1: the platform order platform. They don't have that. So you
Speaker 1: when we see all the negativity that come back to
Speaker 1: self destruction to our community, even with the young ladies,
Speaker 1: with the females, how they all hyper sexual and all
Speaker 1: that shit. I got two daughters, Bro, I'll be looking
Speaker 1: at that shit like Yo, y'all need relaxed.
Speaker 2: Y'all got to relax with this shit.
Speaker 1: Because y'all are the Unfortunately, rappers have become all leaders. Bro.
Speaker 1: It's unfortunate, but it's real. Who else do we look
Speaker 1: up to like? We look up to like rappers, not
Speaker 1: even athletes. Athletes look up to rappers. Everybody looks up
Speaker 1: to hit the hip hop gods, everybody. Jay Z's the
Speaker 1: top of the food chain when it comes to black culture.
Speaker 1: If you ask people, yo Arralcun's here, jay Z's here.
Speaker 1: Where they gonna be at? You only gonna have both
Speaker 1: ties a weird. Anybody else is over there and he's
Speaker 1: and he's J's a rapper. So we have to we
Speaker 1: hold that responsibility, and a lot of people don't want
Speaker 1: to hold it. That's why when you talk about four
Speaker 1: four four, you hear a growthriend jay Ship telling niggas,
Speaker 1: I could have bought a building for two Dumbo. Now
Speaker 1: the building Dumbo like telling you be financially responsible to
Speaker 1: all of this ship and they don't care if we
Speaker 1: if our kids get that or not. They don't give
Speaker 1: a ship. They want whatever it's gonna sound so not
Speaker 1: not to be long window. But yeah, that's let's let's
Speaker 1: get into weld Weshes. That's a song telling everybody that
Speaker 1: want to see you lose and hate yo, even though
Speaker 1: you want to see me fucked up, I want to
Speaker 1: see you. Yeah, yeah, it's fix help you. It was
Speaker 1: like a hated nigga that like and you you know,
Speaker 1: you know what, son, it's sad that you want to
Speaker 1: see me fuck up because if it was up to me,
Speaker 1: you be in my shoes, right.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Meet Raymond Riches.
Speaker 1: It's really it's really the guy who's trying to get
Speaker 1: motherfuckers be like, come on, man, it's the soul seal nigga,
Speaker 1: Like you want fame and Riches fuck with me, bro, like,
Speaker 1: look at these other niggas you gotta It comes to
Speaker 1: the point right where your integrity got got to kick
Speaker 1: in in some stage because they said that pimper sell
Speaker 1: his own ass if the whole ain't making no money real,
Speaker 1: So you got actually said, who am I in this situation?
Speaker 1: I'm not a pimp all hole, I'm I'm a leader,
Speaker 1: I'm a black man. I'm like, y'all not gonna get
Speaker 1: me in this situation where I feel like I got
Speaker 1: bend over because I want a nice call. I want
Speaker 1: to I want to keep up with the Joneses. I
Speaker 1: remember going to Germany for the first time, Like I said,
Speaker 1: I love traveling, and I noticed all the calves with
Speaker 1: five hundreds every day, every call was a business. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, we be over here dying, selling drugs, willing
Speaker 1: to out there, and I'm like, we're down for the ship.
Speaker 1: We be out here and selling drugs, robbing, doing everything.
Speaker 1: The fucking driver some ship that it's just a materialism
Speaker 1: and they got us fucked up with that ship. So
Speaker 1: that that was one of them things like bro, find
Speaker 1: find something to lift the stand to stand on as
Speaker 1: a man, because once you find a purpose, a lot
Speaker 1: of us don't.
Speaker 2: Know our purpose.
Speaker 1: Shit. Once you find your purpose, your life is going
Speaker 1: to open up. All the doors in your life gonna
Speaker 1: open up. I got a purpose to be here. Who's
Speaker 1: for the young? For the young?
Speaker 2: Another one like it speaks to the kids.
Speaker 13: Man.
Speaker 1: You know they always say this is a young man's game, right,
Speaker 1: So who's us as elders? What are we teaching the
Speaker 1: young people?
Speaker 2: We can't.
Speaker 1: It's a young man's game. But we have a responsibility
Speaker 1: as that. If I'm a parent, I ain't gonna tell
Speaker 1: my kyo feed yourself now you will be having for dinner. Nigga,
Speaker 1: you figure it out. I got it. I gotta make
Speaker 1: sure you get the nutrient eating the full healthy food
Speaker 1: groups so he can grow big and strong. We we
Speaker 1: these are our babies. We shun our babies.
Speaker 2: I ain't fucking with that.
Speaker 1: We ain't fucking with that.
Speaker 2: Like, go go figure out on your own.
Speaker 1: So when they do, when they all in disarray and
Speaker 1: fucked up, and and the only niggas around is the
Speaker 1: old ges, who's trying to do negative shit? Yeah, we
Speaker 1: got to look at ourselves at some point. That's why
Speaker 1: I'm saying, who's for the young ones? Who's for the babies?
Speaker 1: But it ain't us and who because we are the elders,
Speaker 1: we're the elder statesmans of our community. Yeah, my child,
Speaker 1: it's me talking to God again, like saying, please don't
Speaker 1: let my child go.
Speaker 2: Through the ship.
Speaker 1: I went through, and I want my son going out,
Speaker 1: a fourteen year old son right now, and I'll think
Speaker 1: of myself at fourteen. I think of you and you fourteen,
Speaker 1: we came through up through high Land and try on
Speaker 1: Dfy and we was we was getting we was getting there,
Speaker 1: was already prepping us for prison when we was twelve
Speaker 1: thirteen years old. Right. So by the time when you
Speaker 1: go through Dfy, by the time you make it up north, nigga.
Speaker 2: That shit is cake walk.
Speaker 1: First you know how to big First we go through Falfort.
Speaker 1: Did they send you try on a high land Pullum Valley?
Speaker 2: And then next thing you know, you're in the big house.
Speaker 2: But you feel like ship.
Speaker 1: This is just a graduation, like going from high school
Speaker 1: to prison, going from d f our. So you go
Speaker 1: in there, you see other d f Y kids and
Speaker 1: ship you've been yo, son, what up? Some wh y'all
Speaker 1: were smoking weed, we cutting niggas And the ship is like, damn,
Speaker 1: this ship is like normal to us. And I'm looking
Speaker 1: at my son now, I couldn't fathom my son being
Speaker 1: in no green or kaksaking yard.
Speaker 2: He wouldn't know what the fucking.
Speaker 1: Dude that like, that's a good thing.
Speaker 2: Gatat a great thing. Thank y'all for this again.
Speaker 1: Man, this ship is big to me. What you were saying,
Speaker 1: what you're saying, Nah, I said that changes like the
Speaker 1: the tables turns from when we was young and like
Speaker 1: we've grown and it's like what we want for the kids.
Speaker 1: It's like to do their thing, and it's like it's happening.
Speaker 1: You know, these kids are smart waists. The thing with
Speaker 1: technology that they have. That's why I got so many
Speaker 1: young millionaires. These kids are making so much. When you
Speaker 1: got a guy like Constant and see how much money
Speaker 1: he's making. Pick up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's positive.
Speaker 1: He's positive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a very part.
Speaker 1: He's a good Like if my son looked up to him,
Speaker 1: I'd be happy, like because you know he's a young kid.
Speaker 1: He's while a off guard. But other than that, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's funny. What was that nigga? They know what came
Speaker 1: through my Yeah, he came through Miami. Shut out to
Speaker 1: him as well, shout out. I like that kid. See,
Speaker 1: I don't even know this kid, but he's he'll rases anybody.
Speaker 1: Motherfucker clowmb tree like any this nigga do eighty five
Speaker 1: backflips in the road. I'm like, this little athletic motherfucker's cool,
Speaker 1: bro and and and they got to bring the audience
Speaker 1: with them. Let's go with no like, no witness witness
Speaker 1: Me and my man Benny the Butcher. That's like I
Speaker 1: kind of bought Bennie in the dang outside of Griselda.
Speaker 2: His cousins in them.
Speaker 1: But Benny was the first person that his first radio interview.
Speaker 1: I sent him to see Static Selected. He came, my
Speaker 1: man brought him. My man was up north with him.
Speaker 1: I got this kid from Buffalo, and I remember them
Speaker 1: Buffalo niggas up north was nice. So I'm like, he's
Speaker 1: from Buffalo. I want to hear him usually like I
Speaker 1: don't Buffalo nigga. I'm like, we hear this nigga because
Speaker 1: I know if the niggas was getting busy. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: so he brought him. He's like, his name is Benny.
Speaker 1: It was just best ever in New York. That's what
Speaker 1: his name still for fort Bennie the Butcher. It was
Speaker 1: best ever in New York. And then why so I
Speaker 1: met him and I heard him rap, I said, yo,
Speaker 1: I got I called Stack Selected. I said, y'all, I
Speaker 1: just met this kid. And because Static like people come
Speaker 1: up on his radio show on rap, I said, you
Speaker 1: got to have him up here. Static was like, what's
Speaker 1: his name? I'm like Benny. He's like a nigga named Benny.
Speaker 1: Fucking with it. I'm like, trust me, Static, this nigga's
Speaker 1: going say nigga Okay, no, no, I mean that's another
Speaker 1: one of my brothers. Man.
Speaker 2: Static is a real and uh yeah.
Speaker 1: And I sent him up there and he went up
Speaker 1: there and did what he did and from that and
Speaker 1: then when when he got when he got with his
Speaker 1: cousin who started Griselda already, and I watched his career flourish,
Speaker 1: I was so proud, like I wasn't being a West
Speaker 1: Side gun. Yeah, west my gun. I was like, yoah,
Speaker 1: I knew it because you saw it was about It
Speaker 1: was about a skill set. It wasn't about no can make.
Speaker 1: He ain't have a fancy shirt on and no ship
Speaker 1: like that. The niggas just correct, right, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He could rap man, Yeah, Bennie rappers as
Speaker 1: on all of the niggasrap Conway, Conway Room Street, all
Speaker 1: of niggas is beast. You know. Ransom ran Rans on
Speaker 1: album like he's a total beast. Ran Bennet beast since
Speaker 1: since ran in Hitchcock, like when when KLU had them.
Speaker 1: A lot of these guys get their second win, and
Speaker 1: I love seeing that because Bennie's first ten to talk
Speaker 1: to was in two thousand and four. That's what my friend.
Speaker 1: That's how long this kid. I found out he was
Speaker 1: rapping for that loan. I'm like, yo, you had a
Speaker 1: mixtape in oh four twenty something years ago. Wow, that's
Speaker 1: like when my first mixtape came out. He was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I was in Buffalo. So now niggas in the
Speaker 1: city wasn't hereing us, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: in Buffalo I was killing shit. I was like, dn,
Speaker 1: those come to assistency, perseverance, like it's gonna get the show.
Speaker 1: Let's go to two thousand and now that's just some
Speaker 1: hip hop said so explaining the story, Yeah, because because
Speaker 1: it was timeless because we did it so long ago.
Speaker 2: And Q Tip said, never say the year?
Speaker 1: What song is that?
Speaker 7: On?
Speaker 2: Q Tipp be like, never say the year? Like, don't
Speaker 2: say the year?
Speaker 1: Did you in? I forgot the name of the song?
Speaker 1: You know, you guy of going on one of them
Speaker 1: tribe albums. He says, never say the year in your
Speaker 1: songs because you dated dated dating it. So I was like,
Speaker 1: but it's too loud now people like now the press
Speaker 1: thing the album is new, like you know yourself was like, yo,
Speaker 1: it's it's a new album. It's like and it's actually
Speaker 1: kind of old, but it's like it got it's got
Speaker 1: its repetition, you know, stand power. I was even debating
Speaker 1: with the fact that should I tell people that we
Speaker 1: did it that long ago or should I just let
Speaker 1: them assume. But to me, it's kind of like a
Speaker 1: testament and how music has stay in power. I could
Speaker 1: go listen to certain albums and certain music, not just
Speaker 1: hip hop, from any genre, and it's the feeling. I
Speaker 1: get a feeling, and once I could, I could like
Speaker 1: some and I could feel something. It's two different ships.
Speaker 1: I I like this ship, I don't feel it. I
Speaker 1: like it, but I don't feel it like they ship.
Speaker 1: Like I said when I went to put myself in
Speaker 1: danger to go here t o and why that's because
Speaker 1: whenever that's don't come on right now. But I feel like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, either crop going to fucking out, I'm
Speaker 1: chilling or about to go do some dumb ship and
Speaker 1: it's just that feeling, and it's a feeling you get.
Speaker 1: That's that's why when you talk about mad that go
Speaker 1: ready to die, it's that's the power of music. Man music.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, let's think it's a toxic glove.
Speaker 1: That's That's one of my favorite songs on the album,
Speaker 1: because I think we've all been in one situations where
Speaker 1: the sex is keeping us around longer than we should be. There.
Speaker 1: I know you're married, man, so you it's probably like
Speaker 1: before yeah, before that, married anybody like you know what,
Speaker 1: you know what with a good box and like damn,
Speaker 1: I said, and you know she likes she might like you,
Speaker 1: she wants more than that, So you're gonna play the
Speaker 1: game just to get the box. So for that week,
Speaker 1: you're gonna pretend like you like this bitch, like how
Speaker 1: you been Shorty. She's like happy to hear from you,
Speaker 1: and you know you're playing and just the fuck it,
Speaker 1: you fuck you probably won't call again for three months.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, so the whole shit is like, all right,
Speaker 1: let's Shorty go find a good nigga bro. Don't be
Speaker 1: that toxic nigga bro. So it's more so about us.
Speaker 1: So it's the man that's toxic, all right. So one
Speaker 1: eighty seven point four FM DJ Titty touch let's a skit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's on my first album.
Speaker 1: We uh, we played off doctor dre and which is
Speaker 1: just I did DJ t titty touching. That's his ripe
Speaker 1: Easy Dick, that's his right hand man, and mom DJ
Speaker 1: titt like. So we just played off that to keep
Speaker 1: the continuity of the album with Johnson, the album with
Speaker 1: Buck Okay being necessities.
Speaker 2: I love that song too.
Speaker 1: It's just saying we don't need as much as we
Speaker 1: think we do a lot of this gluttony ship. What
Speaker 1: the fuck is it they gonna do with a hundred
Speaker 1: million dollars? Like that ship is a lot of money. Man.
Speaker 1: I wanted.
Speaker 2: I wanted to, but I probably give it, right, I probably.
Speaker 1: Give it away.
Speaker 2: I probably give it away.
Speaker 1: They don't need it, but I probably give it away, bro,
Speaker 1: because after you you don't drove every call, like you said,
Speaker 1: what else is it?
Speaker 2: You don't drove every car? I got a lot more
Speaker 2: work to do.
Speaker 1: But Gotti, you know what that car gonna do is
Speaker 1: gonna get you to eighty be bro, exactly the same
Speaker 1: that can't read up exactly. It just looked nice.
Speaker 7: You know what.
Speaker 1: I noticed? It was a guy I believe he was accounting,
Speaker 1: and he said he has to stop buying gifts for
Speaker 1: his rewards because that's deep. Like so every time you
Speaker 1: you you win here by something, you buy yourself again
Speaker 1: and again. He's like, he's like he spoiled himself so
Speaker 1: much that it wasn't about the work, it's about to
Speaker 1: get gas. And I was just like it was. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you ever see them horder shows where
Speaker 1: people just keep crazy, people become horders of money, like
Speaker 1: they don't have no purpose to why they have it.
Speaker 1: They just want a bunch of it.
Speaker 3: I mean, you got to think, what can what can
Speaker 3: you do with a billion dollars or not exactly bro
Speaker 3: the fun there's countries that don't even have them.
Speaker 1: Exactly whole country. Why do you need this kind of
Speaker 1: money for what?
Speaker 2: And then you don't do shit?
Speaker 1: I need a lot of them. I need to find
Speaker 1: out why that we needed. But what are you willing
Speaker 1: to do? What you will? That's the thing. What do
Speaker 1: you will? Are you willing to im not not even
Speaker 1: no crazy ship? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Are you willing to say funk?
Speaker 1: What what's gonna hinder me from getting that even though
Speaker 1: it's the right thing to do, like spearing up and
Speaker 1: saying certain things, especially when you have a voice. So
Speaker 1: that's why they call these kids influencers. Now, oh he's
Speaker 1: an influencer. He got this many followers. You got a
Speaker 1: million followers, he's an influencer. Think about a rapper who
Speaker 1: a hundred million people love and look up to your influence,
Speaker 1: your influencer or steroids nigga. So whatever you tell people
Speaker 1: to do, they're gonna do it. Tell you something and
Speaker 1: I'm glad you bring that up. The other day, you know,
Speaker 1: you follow your algorithms, and I'm what one point one
Speaker 1: point something million. I saw three fucking females that never
Speaker 1: did the worry for they never fast the square garden
Speaker 1: nothing something like six million. They don't got looking at
Speaker 1: the clicking on this ship. That's crazy. Three don't even talk.
Speaker 1: That's what that matters at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: Really got accola, Yeah, you did a lot in these
Speaker 1: women to see me on the streets. She would look
Speaker 1: at me like I ain't ship. Yeah, like you got
Speaker 1: point six word, like that's real ship. Like they don't
Speaker 1: even look at the numbers that numbers lie, though numbers
Speaker 1: do lie. Dying never goes out of style, shouts and ransom.
Speaker 1: You know what? You know what song I was trying
Speaker 1: to channel when I made that song. Yeah, nobody, No, No,
Speaker 1: it's close number little ghetto boyto just want the original
Speaker 1: record what you want to do when you grow up?
Speaker 1: So I'm like, damn because he's talking to the kids.
Speaker 1: So I'm telling the young kid like, dying never goes
Speaker 1: out of style, Like nigga, niggas, you could die like
Speaker 1: that's one thing that's life and death. So if you think, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be out here in these streets and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna end up somewhere and ultimately in life, nigga, you
Speaker 1: probably gonna end up in that in a box, either
Speaker 1: one of the either the pine box or the box
Speaker 1: with the gates to put the balls in front of it,
Speaker 1: because you set yourself up for failure and down. When
Speaker 1: I say dying ever goes out of style, that means
Speaker 1: to reap the grim reapers waiting he's collecting. You don't
Speaker 1: care how much money you got, I don't care what
Speaker 1: color you off. You play. If you play stupid games,
Speaker 1: you're gonna win stupid ass prizes, and that's just how
Speaker 1: the shit go. That's why a lot of these kids,
Speaker 1: one thing, were talking about rappers dying. One thing, they all,
Speaker 1: most of them, not all of them, but ninety five
Speaker 1: percent of them had in commonedy. They was all in games.
Speaker 1: They were all gang affiliated. See what I'm saying. When
Speaker 1: you sign up for that shit, you signed when you
Speaker 1: sign up to go to a gang. And this whole
Speaker 1: shit is going on with the snitch and shit, right,
Speaker 1: Lennoy from a time where if the nigga was a snitch, you're.
Speaker 2: Supposed to handle that. You're supposed to handle bitness. He
Speaker 2: didn't even just talk about it, Yo, this nigga.
Speaker 1: Told and let him walk by. Snitches get stitches. You're
Speaker 1: supposed to get with. You're supposed to be willing to risk.
Speaker 1: If we're really playing my street rules, you're supposed to
Speaker 1: be willing to risk your freedom to do something to
Speaker 1: that guy because he's a snitch living that life. If
Speaker 1: you live in that life, so don't you can't be
Speaker 1: halfway with it. A nigga like he told and just
Speaker 1: let him walk by? What do you don't know about
Speaker 1: j ship? Like when it's like yo. He came in
Speaker 1: the room and it's like yo, he with you like yo. Sorry,
Speaker 1: that was the funniest. That was the funniest. Yeah said yo.
Speaker 1: Nigga recoiled like that in the world that back.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the artificial love. Yeah, that's just a skit,
Speaker 1: another skit and the right. I called it artificial love
Speaker 1: because I used AI Hey. Yeah, yeah, yeah I did.
Speaker 1: I used it AI skited to talk about what I
Speaker 1: typed it them. But I use the AI voice because
Speaker 1: the artificial is fake. I'm saying, all this love that
Speaker 1: niggas is that that should be there. It's a lot
Speaker 1: of fake. Like even with us in this industry, niggas
Speaker 1: smile on your face, they'll hug you to that. Niggas
Speaker 1: show you his back teeth and then you call the
Speaker 1: nigga nigga. One thing about it. You know, I hit
Speaker 1: you know real, be a real one. You know, even
Speaker 1: even I don't like to reply hit me back some
Speaker 1: of the I got you, I tell you I got
Speaker 1: you something. But it's always going always gonna hit you back.
Speaker 1: You always gonna let you know. I'm tapped in and
Speaker 1: I'm sigying, I'm sighing like fucking hold one of the niggas,
Speaker 1: but he could easily curb me, like fun this niggas.
Speaker 1: But that's that's the real Real niggas do real things,
Speaker 1: and that's one of the dealership be Ever said. That's
Speaker 1: why I wish he would have had more time on
Speaker 1: this earth.
Speaker 2: Real niggas do real things. That's I used to love
Speaker 2: with you.
Speaker 1: Real niggas do real thing and not to use it
Speaker 1: in but real people do real shit, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So is there any love in the world
Speaker 1: shout out to my boy my song like I had
Speaker 1: to go to man, I just don't have to take
Speaker 1: it to my song on some real black black man shit.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. This is a real It's
Speaker 1: that's why I called Paint the World Black. I just
Speaker 1: care about my people. I care about everybody. But I
Speaker 1: think we need the most help because we haven't figured
Speaker 1: it out yet. And all we've been through is the
Speaker 1: people and we're still here. Yeah, we got we got
Speaker 1: everything we need to be like like Asians, like Jews,
Speaker 1: like build our own communities, and we.
Speaker 2: Still got ghettos.
Speaker 1: Bro in twenty twenty five that she doesn't make sense,
Speaker 1: but has to have all these resources and we still
Speaker 1: got ghettos, like we still I was, I was doing
Speaker 1: some shit. This was just like twenty twenty two. So
Speaker 1: I was doing some shit with my man Larry Meistrich
Speaker 1: to do to produce belly and all that shit. So
Speaker 1: he's a football coach as well, so he's like, Sanga
Speaker 1: and the kids love you. I want you to come
Speaker 1: with me and new work to come coach these kids
Speaker 1: in football. You know I like football and shit. So
Speaker 1: these we go on here coaching these kids. First of all,
Speaker 1: they walk past gang members every day. We got to
Speaker 1: stop gang members from fucking trying to recruit these niggas
Speaker 1: like Sun pick up a flag, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that's one thing. He's white, so he's he needs
Speaker 1: me to be the blackface to be like yo, because
Speaker 1: I could talk to Son and like, let the nigga
Speaker 1: come to practice, bro, like stop trying to make the
Speaker 1: nigga gang bang, and it'd be some of the bro
Speaker 1: big brothers and all that ship to the point where
Speaker 1: Newark is a tough town.
Speaker 2: You like, you got to get it on with some
Speaker 2: of these niggas.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, fam, we just trying to do right now,
Speaker 1: and I find myself in these situations, so what fuck
Speaker 1: me up?
Speaker 2: It's like, this is Newark.
Speaker 1: Like shacks from Newark, clean up teams from Newark, not
Speaker 1: the not the like put the light on them. But
Speaker 1: the school had to forfeit games because they couldn't afford
Speaker 1: the proper equipment to play against other schools that had up,
Speaker 1: so they had to do coporate gamesrate corporate gangs. So
Speaker 1: they had to forfeit their gag yeah, because the equipment
Speaker 1: wasn't up to pall. So I'm like all of oh,
Speaker 1: they had to cut the boy cut the I'm like, nah,
Speaker 1: we don't need the we got we come together, we
Speaker 1: got this. We can't afford fucking football uniforms for these
Speaker 1: kids in twenty twenty three, twenty and in the schools
Speaker 1: that they want to play, they want to play. These
Speaker 1: kids want to get out the street, they want to
Speaker 1: play football, but they got they can't even play. So
Speaker 1: that's a deterrent that's gonna make you be like, fuck
Speaker 1: the what's the point of me playing? We can't even play.
Speaker 1: I'm nice and I can't even play because we can't
Speaker 1: afford helmets. Fucking I'm gonna go join the cripts like
Speaker 1: the ship is bugged out and we don't we don't
Speaker 1: speak up enough as the people as a as a
Speaker 1: I hate, just hate that word community because we ain't
Speaker 1: got no unity. You can't say community without unity. So
Speaker 1: you have unity, you don't have a community. That's just it.
Speaker 1: The the Games got a WBGT, they got a community.
Speaker 1: Fuck with them if you want to. The Jews got
Speaker 1: a community. If everybody got a community, we call our
Speaker 1: shit the hip hop community, the black community. We got neighborhoods.
Speaker 1: We don't got communities. That's why we say the hood.
Speaker 1: I'm from the hood. We don't say I'm from the community,
Speaker 1: because nigga, you don't you beef. You shoot across street,
Speaker 1: you live across street from you. How is that a community?
Speaker 1: Would you ever do reality TV again? No? Never, never,
Speaker 1: unless unless I can control the edit and tell what
Speaker 1: I need and tell the story I want to tell.
Speaker 1: I would never do that again because the edit we
Speaker 1: have a different bottom line, there's a different like subject.
Speaker 1: If it's like you speaking to the youth, I still
Speaker 1: got to see the editcause because they if their goal
Speaker 1: is going to be to give viewers, they're gonna use drama.
Speaker 1: Somehow they're gonna make something dramatic. So what made what
Speaker 1: made you start thinking like that? My experience? Yeah, Love
Speaker 1: and hip Hop?
Speaker 2: Because you know my baby moms relax. I'm sorry, cool
Speaker 2: right now? Yeah, So what what makes you think like that?
Speaker 1: I love this thigg though, you gotta relate. What made
Speaker 1: you think like that? What experienced in Love and Hip Hop?
Speaker 1: Like it was the edit? Because everything that they were
Speaker 1: doing didn't actually happen, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh yeah, I mean it was happened to Jenda.
Speaker 1: Give me. Let me give you an example, like on
Speaker 1: a reunion show. Right, there was a time where me
Speaker 1: and hers trump We're both telling our side of the story,
Speaker 1: and every time I would try to talk, she would
Speaker 1: cut me off, yo, because she ain't want no dirt
Speaker 1: on her name. So I'd be like, I don't hardly
Speaker 1: know this girl. Me and this girl never been We
Speaker 1: have a kid, but we never even we went to
Speaker 1: dinner one time. I'm like, let me tell us. Every
Speaker 1: time I try to tell a story, she'll cut me off.
Speaker 2: She cut me off.
Speaker 1: She cut me off, She cut me off, right, So
Speaker 1: I'm like, cool, you keep cutting me off. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: let you talk because you you must got more to say.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to interrupt you. One time. I let
Speaker 1: her speak. She sits there and tells her side of
Speaker 1: our story.
Speaker 2: I sit here and let her get all of it out.
Speaker 2: So I said, can I talk now?
Speaker 1: It's the reunion show. Can I speak now? She's like,
Speaker 1: all I gots When I go to speak and tell
Speaker 1: my side of the story, Erica, what about she cut
Speaker 1: me a cook? So then I go, I get frustrated,
Speaker 1: so I'm like, shut the funk, shut up, shut up,
Speaker 1: let me talk.
Speaker 2: When they aired it, that's.
Speaker 1: Trying to say one word, and I was like, shut
Speaker 1: the funk off. I was like, Yo, that's not when
Speaker 1: I fucking happened, you know. I'm like, that's some likes
Speaker 1: a piece of ship. I'm like, yo, this just showed
Speaker 1: me trying to be like yo, can I get a
Speaker 1: word in? Like that what happened? So when they aired it,
Speaker 1: she went to talk and she was like a damnsel
Speaker 1: and distress, like you know, when I be trying to
Speaker 1: talk to shut the funk off, I look like going Stirling.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh hell no, I said I that was
Speaker 1: just a re Union show. Did you feel that they
Speaker 1: violated you on an actual show? Did they? Did they do?
Speaker 1: You know what?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because what happened was.
Speaker 1: They was fucking me at first, but once they seen
Speaker 1: that me and her, they were That's why Stevie J.
Speaker 1: Was smart. He started saying, fuck it, I'm gonna play
Speaker 1: the game. I'm gonna start making silly little faces and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a womanizer. And niggas is womanizer. A
Speaker 1: lot of niggas womanizers and they know that. But when
Speaker 1: you put a womanizer on the show with a demographics
Speaker 1: ninety seven percent women and watch that ship, we didn't
Speaker 1: go home and run home and watch Loving hip hop.
Speaker 1: It was girls females, So they like, oh, we could
Speaker 1: make niggas look any kind of way, and you know
Speaker 1: that's what they were doing.
Speaker 2: Like, fuck, it is the opportunity.
Speaker 1: It's gonna get us ratings, it's gonna make him look
Speaker 1: like ship, it's gonna make the girl look good. Let's
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah a formula. I love loving him, but
Speaker 1: I know I love watching it still. Yeah, I haven't
Speaker 1: been watching the news. Yeah, they got like loving hip hop.
Speaker 1: Ohio over there like all kind of shit. I want
Speaker 1: to go to Loving Hip Hop Nebraska. Yeah, they got
Speaker 1: that ship. Probably Mona don't even own it. She never
Speaker 1: owned it.
Speaker 2: That's the crazy show.
Speaker 1: I was physically there, but I've seen it do online.
Speaker 1: She's working with Buster again and I seen I've seen
Speaker 1: them both looking so happy together. I was like, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, it's almost like Chris like he
Speaker 1: was looking down. Remember I was on Violate. I hate
Speaker 1: it being on Violet because your niggas and again ship
Speaker 1: the niggas. I'm being violent, you know. I hated it
Speaker 1: because you know Mona's officers over there, Chris had the
Speaker 1: big ship niggas like me. They was giving me dude,
Speaker 1: do love.
Speaker 3: My brother?
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were putting the niggas on. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: can't talk to Chris today. Christ is busy with buss
Speaker 1: with you know what I'm saying. So I'm like, bro,
Speaker 1: like what do I get sit down with? At least
Speaker 1: talk to Mona now, Mona. Mona's busy with this something
Speaker 1: like do love again?
Speaker 2: You got to talk to that Joseph. There was Lord
Speaker 2: Dublin Lad.
Speaker 1: I like them. They was trying to help me.
Speaker 2: They was like, Yo, don't worry, keep.
Speaker 1: Going, don't put me on your you was on violence.
Speaker 1: I was happy with that. I got that V I
Speaker 1: was like violators baby Chris, I was, oh man, it
Speaker 1: depends like who like your fraction, and it's like and
Speaker 1: who you with like as a producer, like coming down
Speaker 1: and coming down the Violator. She'd be like, Yo, you
Speaker 1: know what, Yo, just come here. It's like, don't don't
Speaker 1: take it nowhere else the small fish and big That
Speaker 1: happened to me before Violator. I'm gonna tell you when
Speaker 1: I was doing Entourage, you ever heard of the firm
Speaker 1: as a management company in LA. They only do holly,
Speaker 1: They only do so top of the line actors and
Speaker 1: a listeners. So because I was on Entourage, these motherfuckers
Speaker 1: came and signed me. So I'm like, damn signed to
Speaker 1: the firm, this big ass. So I'm like what other hip?
Speaker 1: I noticed these niggas ain't know what they were doing.
Speaker 1: So there was like we got two other rappers. I'm like,
Speaker 1: who are like Snoop Dogg and Ice Cube. I spied
Speaker 1: the fun so you don't got I can managed Snoop
Speaker 1: dog Bigga. I can pick up anybody and be like yo,
Speaker 1: I got Snoop Dogg. Yeah, I'm like so that's what
Speaker 1: that's the reason why y'all niggas ain't picking up my
Speaker 1: call like we'll. Snoop ice Cube and Sigone were the
Speaker 1: only three urban acts in this whole company.
Speaker 2: And I told her, I said, I gotta get the
Speaker 2: fuck out.
Speaker 1: I need one of.
Speaker 2: Niggas gonna pound the payment with me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm an underground They only cared about anthor
Speaker 1: IgE like this might fuck it might be a big
Speaker 1: actor one day.
Speaker 2: I'm like, nah, I'm an underground rapper.
Speaker 1: Bro, Like I still want to rap, Like this ship
Speaker 1: this is cool, but I want to rap so and
Speaker 1: then I went from there to Violator and then there was.
Speaker 2: Another little fish in the big pond. So I'm like
Speaker 2: this all over.
Speaker 1: Again because I went from Snoop Dogg and to these
Speaker 1: niggas like Jory and Caple and I'm like, shit, different
Speaker 1: same thing, same shit, no intention. But I was just
Speaker 1: happy to be around that energy though, and say I
Speaker 1: was a part of this history. I have to be
Speaker 1: a part of violetor yeah, it was part of the history, bro,
Speaker 1: even working with like I got a jay Z verse, bro,
Speaker 1: like I'm about to act. When was the first time
Speaker 1: jay Z took your beat. Oh ship, he took mad beats.
Speaker 1: Who was the first one, first one I think was
Speaker 1: king my kingdom come. It was probably show me what
Speaker 1: you got, Show me what you got now you get
Speaker 1: that up. That wasn't you. I know it was mad.
Speaker 1: You know what, it wasn't totally act like you was mad.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a man supposed to act like I was
Speaker 1: going mad at Joss. You had verses that already. No, no,
Speaker 1: I wasn't in style that it wouldn't even kingdom content
Speaker 1: were because I couldn't figure it out. I was trying.
Speaker 1: This is when I wanted that Nigga just kept to me.
Speaker 1: That's like one of my least I don't even think
Speaker 1: jaybody it like that. Get I could get rid of
Speaker 1: that j that wasn't in this kingdom coming.
Speaker 2: And then come on baby.
Speaker 1: And the one so the last one he took, he
Speaker 1: put a verse on it and then he then he
Speaker 1: was like, yo, I'm about to take some other shits.
Speaker 1: I was my son, but he was like, nah, I'm
Speaker 1: keep that verse. You can keep that half a verse
Speaker 1: something on the other ship. Because if you listen to
Speaker 1: the song, you don't even finish. They can tell that
Speaker 1: the nigga didn't. That's how valuable the vocal nigga voice
Speaker 1: was enough. You can take this. I got people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now he killed it, but he used You could tell
Speaker 1: he didn't go in there. He ain't. Fifteen nigga gave
Speaker 1: me fourteen and a half fall. A lot of people
Speaker 1: can't say they got ah. Yeah, And I still play
Speaker 1: that ship to people today, like you never heard this
Speaker 1: ja verse, like you're right, I never heard it. I'm like,
Speaker 1: damn nigga niggas didn't me do? And you know what's funny.
Speaker 1: I want to say shout to e bro Bo because
Speaker 1: I realized last time I was on here, it.
Speaker 2: Was very hard on you, bro, and I was hated
Speaker 2: him to tell yeah fuck remember oh yeah, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: And I think that's just me and my feelings because
Speaker 1: at the time we were friends and I felt like
Speaker 1: you're ebro. I felt like I thought we were more
Speaker 1: friends than I guess, like the industry ship than we
Speaker 1: were because when he banned me from how eety seven,
Speaker 1: like you're familiar, Yeah what you get banned for? Probably
Speaker 1: oh okay because that happened, yeah yeah Monday, not like that, Okay,
Speaker 1: So but they bade me for a whole Yeah, I'm like,
Speaker 1: nobody got hurt, nobody got shot. And I just think
Speaker 1: I carried this animosity for so long because I thought
Speaker 1: we were friends. But on drink Champs today, e Bro,
Speaker 1: thank you for everything you did do for me, and
Speaker 1: thank you for being when you all cool, you was cool,
Speaker 1: and you know what I'm saying, that's right. Probably I
Speaker 1: spoke to Ebro this morning that So, Buck, is there
Speaker 1: anything you want to say before we get up out
Speaker 1: of here? See your fans please, man, No, okay, just
Speaker 1: digging in the prace man, talk that ship to get
Speaker 1: the album. Please get the album. Man. It's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be surprised, man, like you'll before you'll be full,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I got more to come.
Speaker 1: And Buck did as last album. A lot of people
Speaker 1: slept on the album.
Speaker 2: Last album.
Speaker 1: He produced the whole thing, and that's some of the
Speaker 1: ass best work to me, What what what label that
Speaker 1: came on? On?
Speaker 12: It was independent Hood Records Records, but it was it
Speaker 12: was indeed, so said the Hood Records not knowing how
Speaker 12: to promote.
Speaker 1: And it's like I'll be like, yo, you know what
Speaker 1: you got to promote market it. This time, it's like
Speaker 1: we got to do another project. It's singles, first single,
Speaker 1: second single, it's Street Records, and it's like this is
Speaker 1: this will be more structured. You know. What I'm saying
Speaker 1: is the right way. So if you want to get
Speaker 1: if you want to get people's attend you have to
Speaker 1: get get the attention the right way, all right, yea?
Speaker 1: Make it another one you saying you hey, yeah, oh wow,
Speaker 1: you know that. Okay, that's why you ain't sending me
Speaker 1: no beats now. I know I ain't been getting on
Speaker 1: no beats, like about fucking five hundred samples, like what
Speaker 1: about to kill?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's crazy and I want to thank you. You
Speaker 3: did a joint on my album another time. Oh no,
Speaker 3: you got so see your old Rex's my favorite joint
Speaker 3: on the album.
Speaker 1: You still put down new projects. I mean I'm working
Speaker 1: on some stuff. Yeah, don't stop. You like you one
Speaker 1: of them voice bro listen, man, I who.
Speaker 2: It's about you?
Speaker 1: About you? Man?
Speaker 2: But I'm a fan bro ship you think I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: But it's anything you want to say to you, to
Speaker 1: your fans and to your people before we get I
Speaker 1: want to say everybody, go get Everymore ArKade. You know
Speaker 1: him in the tech world. I do a lot of
Speaker 1: shit like Evermore Arcades and new app music my way
Speaker 1: go download the app and like I got some directors.
Speaker 1: If you're an artist and you really want to get
Speaker 1: to your fan base, you don't need to go platinum
Speaker 1: to make money or you need is a good to
Speaker 1: three thousand fans to fun with you and you can
Speaker 1: make a living on his music best platform. Okay, and
Speaker 1: Evermore Arkad we got another shout out to my man.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say his last name because the last
Speaker 1: time I did, you went in on them.
Speaker 2: I did his name was two for our Yes, what.
Speaker 1: Mike semen about ever More Arcade now, But it's like
Speaker 1: you play games when you win money, So the way
Speaker 1: you got to set up is like this, I heard
Speaker 1: of this.
Speaker 2: The way you got to set up is Evermore.
Speaker 1: So it's really for like underprivileged people who got phones
Speaker 1: and they could play games so they could earn little
Speaker 1: legitly earn real money. So if you win Africa some
Speaker 1: third world country and you ain't got no money, or
Speaker 1: you got to do it because he's an advertising genius,
Speaker 1: so he's like they don't have to pay a nickel.
Speaker 1: All they got to do is sit on hand play
Speaker 1: these games and it generates them real money. So have
Speaker 1: them more.
Speaker 2: Shout to Shack for bigging up.
Speaker 1: Eva Moore, shout to sequille O Neil two man, who
Speaker 1: is great guy, and shout to you Nor you Man
Speaker 1: shout out to shout to Yeah.
Speaker 2: Welcome, Yeah taking the picture.
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