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Speaker 1: The Colts fans and welcome back to the latest episode

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Speaker 1: of the Two Minute Drill podcast. I'm a Manifester here

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Speaker 1: again with Casey Valier. On Friday, September nineteenth, two days

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Speaker 1: out from the Colts attempting to go three to zero

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Speaker 1: to start the twenty twenty five season. Sunday is the

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Speaker 1: first team's first away game of the season against Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 1: Titans are zero to two right now, but really there's

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Speaker 1: no reason Casey to think that this game won't be

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Speaker 1: close and very competitive, especially since it's the has the

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Speaker 1: extra implications of being the first division game of the season.

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Speaker 2: Right There's all of that that goes into it because

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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter really what the records are when we

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Speaker 2: take on a divisional opponent. I think that rings true,

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Speaker 2: especially when you know, we don't want to talk about

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Speaker 2: it too soon. But that drought of the Colts losing

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Speaker 2: in Jacksonville always comes true because during that time span,

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Speaker 2: the Jacksonville Jaguars have not always been that team with

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Speaker 2: a dynamic quarterback. Those so division games, both teams know

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Speaker 2: each other well, they know tendencies they always come to play.

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Speaker 2: So this is not one of those that you could

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Speaker 2: look at it on paper and go two and oh

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Speaker 2: Colts who have looked really good, oh and two Titans

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Speaker 2: who are still trying to figure out with the rookie quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Don't look at that at all, because this is going

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Speaker 2: to be a pretty good game. And typically if you

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Speaker 2: look at you know the way it's been over the

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Speaker 2: last handful of years, these games have all been essentially

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Speaker 2: one score games against the Titans too, so no reason

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Speaker 2: to believe that it won't be the same on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, first things first, as always for this podcast,

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Speaker 1: injury updates, Yeah, Colts did not rule anyone out on Friday.

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Speaker 1: Tyler Warren. Tyler Warren and Josh Downs both missed practice

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday but have returned and been fine. Latter a

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Speaker 1: lot t who has been back in practice this week,

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Speaker 1: So is Tarvarius Ward Senior. But Ward is still in

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Speaker 1: technically inconcussion protocol, Shane Stake and said today, so still

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Speaker 1: waiting on him to clear that final step before Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that independent neurologist is that final step in the

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Speaker 2: concussion protocol. But I think a positive is to say

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Speaker 2: that he practiced, yeah, three times this week, and all

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Speaker 2: three practices without that non contact red jersey, which is

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Speaker 2: you know, part of those initial stages of the concussion protocol.

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Speaker 2: But we all, you know, we don't ever want to

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Speaker 2: take concussions lightly because everybody responds differently. So it's you know,

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Speaker 2: it's one of the things that team's being thorough. They

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Speaker 2: want to make sure that he gets through. So we

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Speaker 2: don't want to foreshadow that he'll be out there on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: But I think everything that leads you to this point

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Speaker 2: definitely makes you think he's trending in the right direction.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and speaking of Tyler Warren, did want to

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Speaker 1: touch on the rookie tight end one NFL Rookie of

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Speaker 1: the Week four Week two on Thursday. He's got he

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Speaker 1: has had a ridiculously impressive start. He's got eleven receptions

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Speaker 1: on sixteen targets for one hundred and fifty five yards,

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Speaker 1: leads all NFL tight ends with one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: five yards yards after the catch with ninety two, which

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Speaker 1: is crazy when you think about it. Yeah, three contested catches.

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Speaker 1: He's set Colts records already, NFL records already. He's the

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Speaker 1: up those yards. It's just like, oh, yeah, Tyler caught

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Speaker 2: And to piggyback off what you just said, because yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's one of the things that's making this team so

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Speaker 2: everybody that is a ball catcher. I'm not gonna label

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Speaker 2: He's been pivotal in these certain and one of the

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Speaker 2: changers as far as the way that a defensive coordinator

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Speaker 2: ultimately it's you know, when you when you're looking at

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Speaker 2: So he is very well deserving of the you know,

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Speaker 2: Rookie of the Week. I anticipated being one of a

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Speaker 1: It was it was a second nomination. He didn't win

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Speaker 1: in Week one, but I think he very well could

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Speaker 2: And I don't want to put the cart before the whole,

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Speaker 2: be Colston Lovelin because he was the other tied end

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Speaker 2: in this draft that were both guys they're gonna be

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Speaker 2: first round picks. Colston Lovelin went before Tyler Warren to

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Speaker 2: the Bears, and he is having what typically happens to rookies. Yep,

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Speaker 2: it's the learning curve. Not saying he's having a bad

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Speaker 2: he is just built a little differently. And boy, we

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Speaker 2: not like he's having, you know, ten catches a game

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Speaker 2: for what I mean, I mean four catches last week

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Speaker 2: but it's also making the defense really target where he

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you brought up that learning curve because

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Speaker 1: because he definitely still is growing because he's only played

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Speaker 2: And that's one of the things too, that we get

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Speaker 2: it's a Hall of Fame career. He may not be in,

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Speaker 2: So when you hear hear him talk about how impressed

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Speaker 2: it really just kind of emphasize how important and how

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel like offense has kind of been

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Speaker 1: rightfully so justifiably so the big topic of the last

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Speaker 1: two weeks with Dana Jones and everything, But I did

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Speaker 1: kind of want to touch on a little bit of

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Speaker 1: the area that we've seen them struggling is in the

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Speaker 1: keep an eye on. Of course, they're all still growing

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Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting because typically you have those conversations and

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Speaker 2: It's the opposite for what the Cults are doing right now,

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Speaker 2: I think twelve red zone trips.

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Speaker 1: Prior to Monday. I think they were tied with the Bells. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I've got I believe this is correct. They've had eleven

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Speaker 1: His numbers pretty well.

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Speaker 2: But ultimately that that is where you really have to

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Speaker 2: When you start thinking about you know, I don't want

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Speaker 2: to talk too far ahead, but you continue down this path,

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Speaker 2: you're going to be starting to look into the playoffs

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Speaker 2: and what and in the playoffs, that's where some of

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Speaker 2: those things. It's every possession is magnified. It's so important

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Speaker 2: the captain Spencer Schrader, because he is he has answered

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Speaker 2: every every bell to this point. He's nine for nine

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Speaker 2: So it's not at all hurting you at this point

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Speaker 2: because you've got two victories and all of that, But ultimately,

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Speaker 2: It has been a couple penalties that have brought you back.

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Speaker 2: So now instead of it being you know, first and

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Speaker 2: ten from the twelve, it's now first and twenty from

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Speaker 2: to do what you do getting there. Because that's one

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Speaker 2: when they're sustaining these drives, is they're staying ahead of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well as always of course, you know, let's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to make sure we get to Broadway

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Speaker 2: and get the bats Thrette parties go the way. I

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not going anything.

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Speaker 2: It's like we're not going. No, no, you don't, you

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Speaker 2: Hockey Dogs hitting up the karaoke bars. No thanks, you

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Speaker 2: don't see any of that, okay.

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Speaker 1: I don't think people don't need to see me doing

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Speaker 2: We'll leave that for JJ.

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Speaker 1: There you go, JJ and Leric can take that over.

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Speaker 1: On that note though, that'll do it for this week's episode.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for tuning in, Casey. As always, thank

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you.

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