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Well, there was a press release 27 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 1: yesterday from the people behind the attempt to recall from office, 28 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: the LA County District Attorney, which is raising questions about 29 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: the signature verification process being carried out by the La 30 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: County Registar Recorders Office, claiming that they are not following 31 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: current laws and new informed guidelines set forth in the 32 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: Elections Code because in the sample, twenty two percent of 33 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: the petitions were thrown out and we don't know why. 34 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: And they are suggesting at the recall committee that might 35 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: be some illegal tossing of the signatures and there's a 36 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: specific law that governs this, and we're going to talk 37 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: with Marion Thompson, attorney for the Gascone recall Committee to 38 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: discuss the details. Marian, welcome, How are you? Thank you 39 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: for having me doing great? What is the law on 40 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: judging valid signatures in a recall election. Well, it's the 41 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: same law that's applicable to signature verification for vote by 42 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: mail ballot, and that law changed in September of twenty twenty, 43 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: right before we had the November twenty twenty general election, 44 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: where every single registered voter in the state of California 45 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: received a vote by mail ballot, and the law was 46 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: essentially changed to create or develop a presumption, a basic 47 00:02:56,120 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 1: presumption that every signature on a vote by mail ballot 48 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: is the voter signature. More importantly, the law was changed 49 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: to loosen the standard four review of signatures, so the 50 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: Secretary of State created a beyond a reasonable doubt standard. 51 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: In other words, you cannot reject a signature on a 52 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: vote by mail envelope, which is also applicable to recall 53 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: petition on a recall petition unless you make a determination 54 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: beyond a reasonable doubt that the signature is not the 55 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: signature of the voter signature on file, and you need 56 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: two employees to both determine that it's not the signature 57 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: beyond a reasonable doubt. Absolutely. First, you have the initial reviewer, 58 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: So you're going to have an initial reviewer look at 59 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: the petition, look at the signature, compare it to all 60 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: signatures on file and the voters record, and if that 61 00:03:55,360 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: initial reviewer says not the voter signature, then two dint 62 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: elections officials, and we're assuming those are experienced elections officials 63 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: who have been properly trained, will then look at it 64 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: and they actually have to make a finding unanimously that 65 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: the voters signature possesses multiple significant and obvious differing characteristics 66 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: from the signature in the voters record. All right, now 67 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: that unanimously agree, go ahead. No, that law is written 68 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: for an election. What we have here is a recall. 69 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: And what you get with a recall is you could 70 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: have petitions being thrown out because the person is not 71 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: a resident of Valley County or are they never registered 72 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: to vote. No, that's that's incorrect. So well, it's partially incorrect. 73 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: So California CODA Regulations two oh nine six zero is 74 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: the governing law on signature verification. That law applies to 75 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: vote by mail ballots, provisional ballots well as every single petition. 76 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: No excially, it's the same standard no vote. You know 77 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: what I'm saying is there are several reasons why they 78 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: could throw a petition out, not just Oh, absolutely, mismatch signature. 79 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying they could look at it and say, well, 80 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: this person really lives in Orange County, they're not eligible. 81 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: Or this person is never registered to vote, they're not eligible. 82 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: That's what I was saying. Correct. No, Okay, absolutely I misunderstood. No. Absolutely, 83 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: There's a lot of technical reasons why a signature can 84 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: be rejected. Like you said, the voter is not registered 85 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: in La County, UM, the voter provided the wrong address 86 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: on the recall petition, UM, and you know, on and 87 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: on and when the reviewer is taking a look at that, 88 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: they're looking for all of these things. But the final 89 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: look is to compare the signatures. And what was shocking 90 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: for us is that there was a twenty two percent 91 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: rejection rate that you mentioned earlier on the random sampling. Now, 92 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: we had a if it was twenty one percent, the 93 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: the let the petition would have been certified on the 94 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: random sampling. But it was a twenty two percent rejection rate. Okay, 95 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: so what does that do that that causes me to 96 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: immediately think, all, right, are they following the same laws? Hey, 97 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: why don't you tell me what that twenty two percent 98 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: consists of? What percentage of that twenty two percent rejection 99 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: rate was for non matching signatures. So I made those inquiries, 100 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: and I made those inquiries repeatedly with being Logan's office, 101 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: and for no apparent reason, they have failed to provide 102 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: me that information. Why hide something like that, I mean, 103 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: give us profidence that you didn't screw up, give us 104 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: confidence that you're following the law. Now, why that's really 105 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: alarming is because in twenty eighteen, Ella County had a 106 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: two percent rejection rate for non matching signatures on vote 107 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: by mail ballots. When the twenty twenty laws were changed 108 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: by the Secretary of State and emergency regulations were issued, 109 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: their rejection rate for non matching signatures on vote by 110 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: mail ballots linkedown eighty three percent to point three five 111 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: four percent. So if two percent of that twenty two 112 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: percent rejection rate on the random famthling was for non 113 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: matching signatures, well, we can live with that. That was 114 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: the rate in twenty eighteen. It should be lower because 115 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: it should be the exact same standard that's applied for 116 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: both vote by mail signature verification and recall petition signature verification. 117 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: But that's something that we can live with, but they 118 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: haven't shared any of that information with us, which caused 119 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: us great concern. So what I did is I submitted 120 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: a CPR A, a Public Records Act request, and I said, 121 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: give me all your materials relating to your signature verification 122 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: process and procedures, and give me all of your signature 123 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: verification training materials that you're using while conducting the recall examination. 124 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: And I lo and behold, I actually think the right 125 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing, and 126 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: vice versa. But they produced records, including their signature verification 127 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:14,119 Speaker 1: guidelines and training materials, and nowhere in any of those 128 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: materials is the word beyond a reason will doubt even mentioned. Um. 129 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: Nowhere in any of those materials is the basic presumption 130 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: that a signature is valid is even mentioned, in fact 131 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: in the training materials the reviewers instructed on the wrong law. 132 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: And that's pretty scary, um, you know, for all the 133 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: recall supporters, because that supports that the registrar recorders not 134 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: doing this. All right, Well, you have made these requests 135 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: and they haven't fully complied. You really don't know why 136 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 1: they have thrown out twenty of the samples. So what 137 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: can be done about it? Legally? Is this something you 138 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: can take to court. Well, ultimately, what we're doing is 139 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: we you know, we did our letter campaign, telephone calls 140 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: directly to Dean Logan's office, and we received no response 141 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: other than trust us were following the law. We notified 142 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: the Board of Supervisors yesterday in get a letter with 143 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: Carbon Coffi's County Council. We caught Carbon copied the Auditor controller. 144 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: Auditor Controller is responsible for oversight of every county department, 145 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:43,359 Speaker 1: and if a county department is not following laws and regulations, 146 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: practices and policies that they should be, that would warrant 147 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: an audit of Dean Logan's office. But in any event, 148 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: we sent all of that and we're hoping that by 149 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: shining a light on what is transparent transpiring, that Dean 150 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: Logan's office will get it right, follow the law and certify. 151 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 1: But if but if they don't, what can you do 152 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: about it? Can you go to court and sue them 153 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: and say that you want an outside audit of all 154 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: the signatures and why they were thrown out? Okay, absolutely, 155 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: in fact um, in anticipation um of that very fact. 156 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: If the petition spots certified. We've assembled a legal team 157 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: to handle this, and we're ready to litigate this matter 158 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:35,719 Speaker 1: immediately in a Los Angeles court of law. And what 159 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: we would ask for is that there would be a 160 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: redo on the on the random famp linkum. That being 161 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: Logan's office followed the law and apply the same standards 162 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: that it applied in the twenty twenty election for voke 163 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: by mail ballot. Yeah, Mary, and I have a note 164 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: at all that Steve Cooley said they're using verification training 165 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: materials from twenty seventeen and not from after the changes 166 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 1: were made that you described. Is that true? That's absolutely true. 167 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: I in fact spoke to the division manager over the 168 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: department that's actually in the process right now of conducting 169 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: the signature verification of every signature on the recall petition, 170 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: and I asked him whether or not he provided any 171 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: training to the almost four hundred thousand people that are 172 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: actually conducting the examination. And he told me that he 173 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 1: felt a little uncomfortable answering that question. I have a 174 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: pretty straightforward question. Answer uncomfortable, absolutely, and I and then 175 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 1: so I said, of what do you mean uncomfortable? And 176 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 1: his response was, well, you have the training manual? And 177 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: I said, what do you mean? I have the training 178 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: manual and his response was, well, I we gave it 179 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: to you during a previous investigation, and he identified that investigation, 180 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: and that investigation took place in twenty seventeen, So that 181 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: was problematic. Those that's who and who was this person 182 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: who became unconfortable? Division managed the division manager for um, 183 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: the actual department that actually conducted the examination of every signature. 184 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: How many how many people did you say are working 185 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: on the signatures? Well, he told me that they hired 186 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: close to four hundred people, um, and that no, no, 187 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: four hundred people, and then that includes yeah, recurrent workers, 188 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 1: temporary workers as well as some permanent staff. And Monica Flores, 189 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 1: who's the acting registrar recorder just belowding Logan, gave me 190 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: a completely different number. She said five hundred people. So 191 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 1: who knows she's selling the trees, but many of that 192 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: that's a lot of people we'd like to know if 193 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: they were trained, um Um. The materials that they provided 194 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: in response to the Public Records Act request appears to 195 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: show that, yes, they were trained at all, they were 196 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: trained on the wrong law and that's extremely problematic. All right, Marian, 197 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: thank you very much for telling us this. It sounds 198 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: like you're really on top of this for the recall 199 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:17,599 Speaker 1: and just to keep us up to date us to 200 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: where this heads next time. I guess it could be 201 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: next week. We're going to find out from the registrar 202 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: and don't they have a deadline sometime next week. Yes, 203 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: they have to complete the examination by August seventeenth, and 204 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: whether that's to certify it or find it insufficient. But 205 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 1: we still remain hopeful that based on the pressure we've 206 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 1: exerted repeatedly with Dean Rogan's office, that they're going to 207 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: follow the correct laws in the petition Review sees ME 208 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 1: petition review process and ultimately certify the recall petition so 209 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: we can have a special election to remove George Gascon. 210 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: All right, Marion Thompson, attorney for the Gas on a 211 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: Recall Committee, thank you for joining us, absolutely, thank you 212 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: for having met. All right, and again, this is about 213 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: the signature verification process being done by the La County 214 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,599 Speaker 1: regist of Voters, where, according to Marian and others with 215 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: the campaign to recall Gascon, it looks like they're using 216 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: outdated training materials to verify the signatures. About four hundred 217 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: people are going through the signatures and the training materials 218 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: that were sent to Marian were from twenty seventeen. Things 219 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: changed with a couple of laws that were made in 220 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: twenty twenty and so forth. About you know, reasonable doubt 221 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: on the signature. Yeah, if you're going to throw out 222 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: a signature, you have to have two people decide beyond 223 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: a reasonable doubt that the signature really doesn't match in 224 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: multiple ways to their voter registration. Right, So if they 225 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: use twenty seventeen materials to look at that sampling that 226 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: they did and they rejected twenty two percent of the signatures, 227 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: that doesn't smell right. We got more coming up, John 228 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: and Ken cafind All right, if I might have the floor, 229 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: I would like to make a point to bring this 230 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: full circle. All right, here's the floor, okay, and you 231 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: look at the floor. Well, looks very nice. Okay, Then 232 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: I'll stand on it and make my point. We were 233 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: just talking to an attorney for the Committee to recall 234 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: George Gascone from office is Eley County DA. They have 235 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: some real questions about the signature verification process currently going 236 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: on at the Ely County Registrars office. I want to 237 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: say this first, I don't want this to be the 238 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: era of because we're seeing this obviously in national politics, 239 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: where everything's being questioned. Right, Trump obviously questioned the twenty 240 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: twenty election results. We all famously know that, which led 241 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: to the January sixth insurrection at the Capitol. If we're 242 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: gonna get to a point where everybody's when you lose, 243 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: you question the entire process and it's facing it's fraud, 244 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. I don't want to go down 245 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: that rabbit hole. Okay, Well, here's the point I want 246 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: to make about this, And if what Marion told us 247 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: is true, there are real questions in an effort and 248 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: this makes sense to drive the turnout. Who do you 249 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: think was behind most of the rules, especially in California, 250 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: to make it a little softer when you're looking at 251 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: the mail in ballance, who do you think it was? 252 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: The Democrat? Democrats exactly right. That's why they were rule changes, 253 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: as Marian said, made in twenty eighteen and twenty twenty, 254 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: concerning the way you look at the mail in ballots, 255 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: whether or not they're valot. It made sense and it 256 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: really worked out for the Democrats, especially in Congress, well 257 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: state in California, it did an amazing job. It turned 258 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: around some races because the mail in ballots are still 259 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: being looked at. I mean, look at the LA mayor's race, 260 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: all right, Caruso is winning on election night, just like 261 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: Trump was nationally in twenty twenty. But Karen Bastpula had 262 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: when they looked at all the mail in ballots. Let 263 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: me just finish my point. Okay, So here's the thing. 264 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: If they did that because purposely they wanted to make 265 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: it easier to make sure that the write in ballots, 266 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: the mail in ballots were being counted and that people 267 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: were not being disenfranchised by their votes being thrown out 268 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: with the signatures or they're not registered whatever, Well, the 269 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: same thing should apply to the recall. So if they're 270 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: using training materials from twenty seventeen before these rule changes 271 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: were made about and apparently I guess they applied not 272 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: just to mail in ballots but to recalls as well, 273 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: then there's something wrong there. See. I have a very dark, 274 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: cynical presumption about most everyone who works in government, especially 275 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: the rabbit hole. Though I didn't want to go down 276 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: because we will question every single election, is that we 277 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: don't like uh, yeah, but some of them are going 278 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 1: to be some of these are going to be true. 279 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: I didn't say that I'd like the bonded recall a 280 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: lot of problems that I mean. I'm not you know, 281 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: I'm not into the Trump election scandal. I never believe. 282 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,959 Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that there can't be one here 283 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: in California. Because what we have here is one party rule. 284 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: They passed some very lenient laws to bolster their vote. 285 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: And and now when you have this very strict law 286 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: that requires two people saying it's beyond a reasonable doubt 287 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: that this signature is invalid, that's that's a pretty high bar. 288 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: That's the highest bar in legal circles, beyond a reasonable doubt. 289 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: Now you have that two people agree, So if it 290 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: looks just a little bit valid, you can't you can't 291 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: toss it. They did it. Now, what if somebody what 292 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: if they did it in order to facilitate fraud, or 293 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: what if people decided, wow, that is such a loose interpretation, Yeah, 294 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:31,479 Speaker 1: let's stuff the ballot box here. Why not? Why wouldn't 295 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: they do it? They remember the evidence is in twenty 296 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 1: eighteen in the general election, they only got a two 297 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: percent rejection rate. For vote by mail ballots or non 298 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: matching signatures. That's all just non matching signatures. After they 299 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: passed these emergency rules in twenty twenty, the twenty twenty election, 300 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: that went down to point three five four percent for 301 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 1: non matching signatures. So some of you mus have said, 302 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 1: all right, that had a good effect, the two percent 303 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 1: to low rejection rate, But the point three to five 304 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: four percent is really local. So that's why Marian's right. 305 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 1: The need to find out what percentage of the random 306 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: sample that they looked at was rejected for signatures not matching. 307 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: She well, she asked, she's an attorney, she's representing them 308 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: because it could be what you said, it's a lot 309 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: of people that were not allowed to sign the petition 310 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: because they don't live in La County's right, or they're 311 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,719 Speaker 1: not registered to vote. That very well could be the problem, 312 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: or it's only half the problem or two thirds of 313 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: the problem, because remember we're only looking for a one 314 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: percentage point difference here. If it's twenty two percent, there's 315 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,719 Speaker 1: no chance of getting the recall gascone petition on the ballot. 316 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: If it's twenty one percent, maybe it does go on 317 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: the ballot, But two twenty percent, it definitely goes on 318 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: the ballot, But twenty two percent was just outside the line. 319 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: You consider that suspicious because it was just inside. I do, 320 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: because to me, all these government operations are guilty until 321 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: prevent innocent, and I think in any circumstance they should 322 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: immediately show all their Okay, you've gone through X thousands 323 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: of ballots as a sample, exactly how many of them 324 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: did you throw out for a bad address, not being 325 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: registered to vote in the wrong county, And how many 326 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 1: did you vote for a signature that you thought, beyond 327 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: a reasonable out twice over was invalid. How many you 328 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: should produce it all? In fact, you should produce the 329 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: actual petitions. You should make them public to make it 330 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: look clean. Two reporters to the other side said, here 331 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 1: are our makeup numbers. Here, here are the one thousand 332 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 1: petitions we threw out. There's four hundred in this category, 333 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: there's two hundred in this category, and on and on 334 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 1: and here. You can look at it and then show 335 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: us all the ones that came through, so we could 336 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: make sure the numbers add up. If they say they 337 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: sampled five thousand, they threw out a thousand, show us 338 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: everyone give it to an outside law firm. We should 339 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: they should do that. It's only the government. The guy 340 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: who runs the registrars off and we don't have time 341 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: to get into this now, but if this goes south, 342 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: we will. Dean Logan had a terrible scandal. He had 343 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: to he had to leave Seattle and King's County in 344 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: disgrace about about seventeen years ago. And if you remember, 345 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: they botched up a primary election a few years ago 346 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: where thousands of votes got fouled up, and he took 347 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: the blame for that. He's bat at his job in 348 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: two different cities over two different decades. So yeah, when 349 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: I hear Dean Logan is running a department and suddenly 350 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: they've preliminarily found that there are not enough signatures to 351 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 1: put Gascon's recall on the ballot based on the sample, 352 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: Well wait a second, that Dean Logan running this, give 353 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: me more information, show it to me. Oh, we're not 354 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: going to show it to you. Oh really, you're not 355 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: going to show us. Hey, where's the training manual? Did 356 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 1: you train all your five hundred newly hired government workers? 357 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: Well maybe it was five hundred, maybe it was four hundred. 358 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: We don't really know. Did you train them? Well, yeah, 359 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: we trained him. Did you use the twenty nineteen law 360 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: or the twenty seventeen law? Oh well, I don't know. 361 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't trust any of that, of course not. 362 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: You don't have to be an idiot to trust any 363 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: of them. All Right, we got more coming up, John 364 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: and can cafeine. All right, we're bringing the Moist line 365 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: back in just three days already first time in two weeks. 366 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: But you can still leave a fresh message. Use the 367 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app the microphone. You can talk back also toll 368 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: free one eight seven seven Moist eighty six one eight 369 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: seven seven sixty six four seven eighty eight six. La 370 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: City Council and Joe Buskayena will join us at four 371 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: oh five to talk about more chaos. A little mini 372 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: riot today at the council chamber. Yeah, it was like 373 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: a January sixth insurrection. The homeless activists almost took over 374 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: the place and charged at the council president nor Marked 375 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: charged at her. Somebody got arrested, tackled. And this is 376 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: why one of the reasons why homeless policy is so 377 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: horrible in this city, because the politicians are afraid of 378 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: this crowd. This is how they act. Every day. They 379 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: badger the council people and the mayor with all kinds 380 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: of angry phone calls and emails, and they storm in 381 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 1: the offices and they you know, most of the time 382 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: the council is cowering, walked behind their office door. They're 383 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: afraid of these people, so they just let the situation 384 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: fetter her until it's unmanageable. Until we'll get into this 385 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 1: after the four o'clock news here on the Johnny Ken Show. Well, 386 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: you know, when you have the great tabloids of the world, 387 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: like the Daily Mail and the New York Post, you 388 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,479 Speaker 1: can count on them to do a little more digging 389 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: into a story that see, you know, sort of fascinating 390 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: and not not ikey, but in some cases. This is 391 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 1: the Orange County woman who's being accused of poisoning her husband. 392 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: Now we talked about you you yesterday on the show. 393 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 1: That's her name, Why you, Eh You. She's a dermatologist 394 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: in Orange County. She was arrested last week for poisoning 395 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: her husband. And because they've dug for the documents, both 396 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: the Post and the Daily Mail has gotten the further 397 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: detail we wanted in the story. The husband has now 398 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: been identified as Jack Chen and he claims that his 399 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: wife of a decade was putting draino in his lemonade. 400 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 1: Leave it at that hot lemonade. Who drinks hot lemonade? 401 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 1: I guess I don't know. That's that's weird to begin 402 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: with hot lemonade with draino and and and the story 403 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: has apparently these two were headed for divorce or were 404 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: anyway because what an ugly situation, at least according to 405 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: the husband's complaint that this was one hell of a 406 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: what's the term they used to use, a tiger mom, 407 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: that she was just nasty with everybody in the household. 408 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: They had two children together. Well they have they have 409 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: video showing that you the wife had a large plashtic 410 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: red bo and he was she was pouring it into 411 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: a cup and then later on Chan is seen drinking 412 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: from the cup. Yeah, he put in a nanny cam 413 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: because he was suspicious that something was going on with 414 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: his hot lemonade. Did you see and that is a 415 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: bottle of draino there? You know that's that's that's a jug. 416 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: It's a jug like almost like laundry detergent. That she's, oh, 417 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 1: you don't want to drink draino. Apparently that can oh, 418 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: real damage to your inside. That'll burn out all your organs. 419 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: That that's lie. Yeah, that's that's a caustic that destroys 420 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 1: your your your tissues. Uh yeah, it says here he 421 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: first started noticing something was wrong in March or April, 422 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: and when he had further testing done, he began to 423 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: have pretty significant symptoms. That's when he started to equate 424 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: the chemical tastes to the symptoms he was experiencing. You 425 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: asked that question. Didn't he notice anything a little off 426 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: with the drink? Well, he had two stomach ulcers, gastritis, 427 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 1: and inflammation to his aophagus because all his tissues were 428 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: getting burned from the drain Oh. I mean he at 429 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: least it was a little bit. Uh, but would you 430 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: would you take spread out in the drink. You've got 431 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: to be able to taste drain. Oh. I'm wondering just 432 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: how slow witted this guy was. One sip, it's like, 433 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: oh Jesus, this tastes like why Um, yeah, he said 434 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: in this statement. The video from July eighteenth shows me 435 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: taking a sip of my still hot lemonade, covering my 436 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: cup with saran wrap. And then Emily taking the drain 437 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: oh from under the sink, removing the covering to pour 438 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: the draino, and then replacing the cellophane and putting the 439 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: draino back under the sink. Why did he put cellophane 440 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: over the top of his drink to keep it hot, 441 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: is my guess? Oh right, was just a cheap way 442 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: of keeping it hot rather than using it Or did 443 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 1: he think that was going to stop her from pouring 444 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: the drain o in dure? Maybe he's suspicious, he said, Well, 445 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: at least he's got to remove the cellophane. How many 446 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: times did he drink the drain oh? It sounds like 447 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: over a period. He first started getting He took a 448 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: video on July, and he first started nosing symptoms in 449 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: March and April. It looks like quite a while. Bunt 450 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: this guy three months to figure out she was feeding 451 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 1: him drained Yesterday story said it started a year ago. 452 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: That makes zero sense. He claimed his wife would and 453 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: apparently the mother in laws involved in this too. They 454 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: were physically and emotionally abusive to him and their two kids. 455 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: They have an eight year old and a seven year old. 456 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: Emily would call me a bleep in a hole and 457 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 1: other insults. Currently, she minimizes my existence by telling the 458 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: children in front of me tell him to do something 459 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: without addressing me. Here's a good one. When Emily gets 460 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: frustrated and yells at the children, she'll commonly use a 461 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: Chinese phrase that translates to go die. She also says 462 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 1: to the children, your head has a problem, your head 463 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: is sick. Go f yourself, fing idiot, stupid a hall, 464 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: get the fut my way. These are little kids. Her parenting, 465 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 1: if you call it, that, revolves around yelling and salting, 466 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: verbally abusing, hitting, pushing, pulling, and being emotionally abusive. Now, 467 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: of course, her attorney and even she hasn't been charged yet. 468 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: By the way, this is still pending. It's just all 469 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: the rest. She's been released on bail. Of course she has. 470 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 1: The response from her attorney is that this is all 471 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: made up because they're having a divorce. Well, there's video 472 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: of her pouring the drain on the lemonade. I meant 473 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: all the other stuff that we just spouted. Oh, I'm 474 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: sure all the other stuff is true. If you're pouring 475 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: draino into his lemonade, I'm sure you're you're yelling and 476 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: cursing at him all day. Isn't a divorce easier than 477 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: poisoning somebodyslutely? That's what I would say. I don't understand 478 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: why you just wouldn't go that route. The mother is you, 479 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: quinn amy amiens and parentheses, I guess, says Goo, who 480 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: we also dragged into this, saying that she would put 481 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: him in the two children through painful, emotional and verbal abuse. 482 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,479 Speaker 1: This guy's apparently read theologists. You're taking this from them, 483 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: from from your wife and the mother in law. It 484 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: sounds like they teamed up on him, at least according 485 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: to him. Is this the weakest little uh? When I 486 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: think the attorneys think they're both trying to make a 487 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: play for custody, so they're gonna make the other side, 488 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: I don't but I don't hear her complaining about him. 489 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: Looks like he just took took all the abuse and 490 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: drank all the drains. Both sides to every story, John, 491 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: What do you think the other side is? Well, I'm 492 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: sure he wasn't the most amazing husband or else. Why 493 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: would you want to poison it so you get the 494 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: drain O for that? No, I'm not saying no, I'm 495 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: saying she's in the wrong. I'm taking to drink from you. No, no, 496 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that we may eventually hear from her 497 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,479 Speaker 1: about what he's done wrong. But if he actually has 498 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: these symptoms, poor draino into his lemonade, she's in deep trouble. 499 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: I don't care what's happening between them and the kids. 500 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: I didn't expect support for the draino. I did not 501 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: support the draino. I said, I'm sure he wasn't the 502 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: most amazing husband, because why would you. Okay, let's be real, 503 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: if you have an amazing husband or wife, why would 504 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: you want them to go away that. I'm not saying 505 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: she's doing the right way, get the divorce, all right. 506 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: He says he's feeling better, but he's had to take 507 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: some time off from his work as a radiologist. Has 508 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: been there. Hire a food taster tonight. We got more 509 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: coming up, John and Ken Camp. All right. The show 510 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,959 Speaker 1: kicked off today with a news conference. There was an 511 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: off duty Monterey Park Police officer, identified now as Guardiel Salaro, 512 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: who was shot to death yesterday afternoon in the parking 513 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: lot of a mall in Downey. Apparently a planet fitness 514 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: was right there in the business. So they're trying their 515 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: best to track down the suspect whoever killed the police 516 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: officer off duty and who keep you update on that 517 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: story as well. Coming up. After four o'clock, there was 518 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: more mayhem in the City council chambers of La. They 519 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: were voting again on this new law that would prohibit 520 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: homeless encampments within five hundred feet of schools and day 521 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: care centers. They took a vote last week. Because it 522 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: was not unanimous, they had to come back and do 523 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: it again today and it passed today. They didn't need 524 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: every vote. Mike Bonnet would never vote for this. But 525 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: it turned chaotic again because the activist the protesters showed 526 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: up and they made quite a scene, including one who 527 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: apparently charged at the council President Nouri Martinez. Joe Buscayano, 528 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: of course, was there and he'll give us a firstance 529 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: account of this bizarre said he never saw anything like 530 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: it exactly. There you go. You know they you know, 531 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: we got they gotta they gotta toss these stupid activists 532 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: out out into the street and keep them there. Not 533 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: for these people. Here come your animal stories. Debra Martin, 534 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: Oh I've been waiting Ken. You know this story I 535 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: liked until I read it a second time. And now 536 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: ye just call me a skeptic as a guy who 537 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: lives in Mississippi that claims his fat pet cat warded 538 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: off a robbery and I'm twenty pounds. Is a big cat, 539 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: isn't it. Oh? Yes, yeah, that's a big bellied cat. 540 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: It's a picture of it. It's a gorgeous cat. It's 541 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: like a Calico cat with really dark eyes. The cat's 542 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: name is Banded and Deboramark will like to know that 543 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: the owner, Fred Everett, said he got him from the 544 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: Humane Society. Yes, he claims that on the night of 545 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: July twenty fifth, this cat knew something was wrong, went upstairs, 546 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: jumped onto the bed, pulled the comforter off of the man, 547 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: and clotted his arms. He's had the cat for several years. 548 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: The cat has never done anything like that before. Fred 549 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: Everett said, I knew something was probably wrong. This is 550 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:43,479 Speaker 1: outside of Tupelo, Mississippi, and he noticed that apparently there 551 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: were two people trying to break into his home. Wow, 552 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: he says, this is my guard cat that saved me. 553 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: And the reason I am skeptical why are you skeptical? 554 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: He did not call the police. He just told the 555 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: local newspaper the story. They printed it. It's now gone national. 556 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: Call me a skeptic. He claims he got up to 557 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: investigate saw two young men outside his back door. One 558 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: had a handgun, the other was using a crowbar to 559 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: try and pry the door open, but they ran off 560 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: before he could confront them. Apparently he did have a gun, 561 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:16,719 Speaker 1: I think, but they well, only because we've only got 562 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: his word for it, right, if you can't call the 563 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: cops and reporting anything officially, and if he does, if 564 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,719 Speaker 1: he doesn't, if he has a gun, he doesn't need 565 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: the police. You can just too. And usually people who 566 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: live in the suburbs are like in Mississippi. I'll take 567 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: care of it. People in Mississippi handle it themselves. Now, 568 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: you don't need the police to come over. Just get 569 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: get your gun. You take air business leaving dead on 570 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: the lawn. Now, the bad animals story, Debrah Mark, is 571 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: they're trying to figure out what has killed a bunch 572 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: of pelicans. Pelicans are an interesting creature, if not just 573 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: to look at because of that long, long beacon. Yeah, 574 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: they're shape of them. Apparently a bunch of pelicans have 575 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: shown up in San Francisco, uh, sick or dead. This 576 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 1: is happening along the California coast land down here too 577 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 1: in recent months. Right, I'm on, I'm on a mailing 578 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: list for a a sea life hospital. You well, because 579 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,280 Speaker 1: you remember, remember the duck that landed in the pool, 580 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: oh in your back in your point, yeah, in the backyard, 581 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: And so we had to rescue the duck at I 582 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: actually it's two ducks, but one of them didn't make 583 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: the night and took the second duck down to the 584 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: San Pedro area where Joe boskyanois and there is a 585 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:42,879 Speaker 1: like a duck rescue well for all kinds of seabirds. Oh, 586 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: and so I ended up on the down the duck 587 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: since then or uh no, I don't know. They took 588 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: them in and that the mail or female I didn't look. 589 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: I didn't know, luck, I no, no, no, the female's 590 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: the dark I'm going to feel around there that the 591 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 1: male one's the white one. That's kind of pretty easy 592 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: to when you say, I don't know. I didn't know that, 593 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: and I didn't think of it. But they took the 594 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 1: duck and took care of it. But occasionally I get 595 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: emails and I've seen these news stories about the dying 596 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: or dead pelicans all along the coast, and then they 597 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: have sent out all kinds of press releases because they're 598 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: getting some of these pelicans to treat. And yeah, they 599 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,760 Speaker 1: say there's an o avian influenza. None of them tested 600 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: positive for that kind of thing, like bird flu. I 601 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: ran across a dead pelican on the beach a couple 602 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: of months ago. We were walking on the beach and 603 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: this this dead pelican had washed up and it was 604 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: just laying there. That's what I said. I looked at it. Go. 605 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: So right now they're stumped. There's no trace of environmental 606 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: contaminants found in the pelicans, and as I said, no 607 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:48,320 Speaker 1: bird flu. So is it possibly somebody's poisoning them, or 608 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 1: rain could be that crazy woman it's pouring draino into 609 00:35:53,280 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: the ocean, or maybe they weren't good pelicans, Deborah deserve 610 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: to get the drink. Well, of course they're good pelicans. 611 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: They don't deserve that. 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