1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast is accepting Tailgate invites. Welcome 2 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 1: back to another dictionally Around the League podcast. My name 3 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: is Dan Hands. I'm joined by room filled with some heroes, 4 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler and Greg Rosenthal. What up boys? He d No, 5 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: we can no, no, No, Craig were actually Tybee Island 6 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: inflection of West. I have a great idea. I have 7 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: a great idea gold center behind the glass in post production? 8 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: Can you add Westling's Hey Dan in there? I'm gonna 9 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: do that for you. Yeah. I want it to be 10 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,639 Speaker 1: put right next to my version, and the listeners can 11 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: decide who's more accurate. I don't think it works like that, 12 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: but yeah, I'm just saying better, so we'll just yeah, 13 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: we'll try it right now, Okay, like um, Mark Cessler 14 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: and Greg Rosenthal, what up boys? Hey Dan? Hey Dan? 15 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: There you go. Yeah. I can already tell in my 16 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: head that's gonna be a close call. Actually, I was 17 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 1: skeptical that somehow Greg could be more realistically West than West. 18 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: But now I see it. That would be weird unless 19 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: you're saying that West has become a caricature of himself. 20 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: Well this got ugly really quick. Well, we we're gonna 21 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: get West on the line later. Well, West by the 22 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: way is um traveling up the coast of California with 23 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: his lady love from Tybee Island. I don't know if 24 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: it's a love. There's something going on with this West 25 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: and this woman Um. There's a traction. Yes, we I 26 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: believe we had her on the podcast once, or maybe 27 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: we didn't. We've we've spoken to her, Mark, you've met her. 28 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: West is now very nice. Well, I mean I couldn't 29 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 1: say enough nice things, but she's visiting. So that's why 30 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 1: West isn't here. But we're gonna check in with him 31 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: and see what's going on. We're also going to bring 32 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: back the beloved game What's more Likely uh, and talk 33 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: about it's the What's More Likely post Draft edition, So 34 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: we'll get into some scenarios involving teams now they have 35 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: some this infusion of talent from around the collegiate game. 36 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: We're also gonna touch We're gonna touch on the Top 37 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: one D list. NFL Network is filling that time ahead 38 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: of the start of training camp, and this has now 39 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,119 Speaker 1: become an annual right of passage. It is the top 40 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 1: one hundred of two thousand fourteen lists. They went through 41 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: players ninety through eight one, I believe on Wednesday. So 42 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about that, and just you know, 43 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: I'll sure have some thoughts about it. Get excited, Mark, 44 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: why are you keep on? You're shaking your head and 45 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: you're dismissive of the entire operations The list to be 46 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: a folly. But we'll get into it later, yes we will. 47 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: But before any of that, the gold Center, who has 48 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: already showed you his his depth touch as a producer, 49 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: he is behind the glass and he is going to 50 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: give us some news. Is that correct? That is correct. 51 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let's do it. Rex Ryan was a 52 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: guest on w f A N in New York on Thursday. 53 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: The Mike Francis Show. Asked the course about the Jets 54 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 1: quarterback situation as you could uh could have guessed uh, 55 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: and Ryan made it clear once again that it seems 56 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: that Geno Smith is the favorite for this job, at 57 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: least heading into training camp. His quote, this young man 58 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: is going to be hard to beat out, even as 59 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: talented as a player as Mike Vickens. I think Geno 60 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: Smith has made that big astride. And again the proof 61 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: will be in the pudding when we play this thing out. 62 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: But that's my confidence in him. I have said this 63 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: from the start. I know wes Vihema vehemently disagree. He 64 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: sees Vic as the day one starter. Where do you 65 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: guys stand? Do you think Gino Smith as a starter? 66 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: Are you starting to come around on the idea that 67 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: maybe Vic is going to start the years the backup? 68 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: I think with the Jets, if you could have your 69 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: perfect scenario, you want the young quarterback you drafted to 70 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: evolve into your starter, not a guy who's about to 71 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: be mid thirties and on the decline. So that's what 72 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: they want to happen, so so voice that message. Will 73 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: it go awry? Yes? That about to be mid thirties 74 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: and on the decline. That hit a little too close 75 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: to home for myself. And I'm sure I've been on 76 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: the decline for years. And uh, you speak with your actions, 77 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: Rex Ryan. No one says more meaningless things in public 78 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: than him. You speak with your actions. And they signed 79 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 1: Michael Vick to a pretty good contract. That's a sign 80 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: that they wanted to play. It's amazing. It's amazing to 81 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: listen to late period Rex Ryan and how different he 82 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: is from the guy six years ago. At one point 83 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: francessa who everyone knows what Francess is like like, wow, 84 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: you've really changed. I'll tell you what or something like that, 85 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: he said, And it's it's true. Like every question asked 86 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: the Rex is now it's kind of pollstring doll type answers. 87 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: This is not the Rex Ryan. You kind of missed 88 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: the old lovable lug. But at the same time, I 89 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: think the only reason he's still employed by the Jets 90 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: is that he kind of transformed himself to him. And 91 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: now before he waltz is out of his office, someone's 92 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: in his ear saying when they asked this question, this 93 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: is how you and your shiny white teeth will answer 94 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: it is. It's kind of dispiriting that it's the truth. Though. 95 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: It's like even Rex Ryan, who seems like an untamed man, 96 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: if you're in the cogs of the machine long enough, 97 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: and I want everyone in this room to take note, 98 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: if you're in the cogs long enough, you will be tamed. 99 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 1: Let's give the Glacier some credit. He might be slow 100 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: on the old transaction wire, but he's been effective in 101 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: his mind games with the Rex. He's got him under 102 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: his thumb absolutely and congratulations. The former Jets general manager 103 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: Mike Tannenbaum, who was the agent behind Steve Kerr's big 104 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: deal with the Golden State Warriors, a five year dollar 105 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: deal for a guy who's never coached in the n 106 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: B A friend of the program. He came up to 107 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: Mark and I at the league meetings and he said, 108 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: he listens to the Round the League podcast right and 109 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: I don't mind dropping a name drop right now. I 110 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: like the ability NFL GM able to go cross to 111 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: a different sport and pull a comp leet code. It 112 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: was nice. I had a nice DM Direct Message conversation 113 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: because it went back one and one. That's consts a conversation. 114 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: It's that. Congrats man, he said, thanks man. That's it. 115 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: Me and Mr T. We got electric moving forward, gentlemen, 116 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: So congratulations, Mr T. Miles Austin has agreed to have 117 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: agreed to terms of the Cleveland Browns on a deal. 118 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: This comes a day after we heard Jason Garrett of 119 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,799 Speaker 1: the Cowboys say that they were absolutely open to Austin 120 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: perhaps coming back to the Cowboys who cut him in 121 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: what amounted to, I guess a salary cap move a 122 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: couple of months ago. Although his Austin's play is obviously declined. 123 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: The Browns have their own issues with Josh Gordon now 124 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: likely facing suspension, so they bring in Miles Austin and 125 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 1: also Earl Bennett was also signed by the Cleveland Browns 126 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: on Thursday, So you're adding two more veteran names to 127 00:06:54,720 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: the mix. Mark Sessler your thoughts. It's May, and as 128 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: of sunrise this morning, neither one of these guys had 129 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: been wanted enough by any team, So I think that's telling. 130 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: There's not a whole lot of upside here. But it's 131 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: Ray Farmer. It's the Browns anticipating, you know, the worst 132 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: when it comes to Josh Gordon, just stocking up that 133 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: position group. They needed receivers, even if Gordon wasn't potentially suspended, 134 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: their number three receiver, assuming Hawkins is even though he's 135 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: in the slot. He's a starting type of guy. Hawkins 136 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: Gordon when he's out there, and the next guy is 137 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: Greg Little, you don't even want on your team. So 138 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: they needed people, and admit this though. Miles Austin very handsome. 139 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: You know, Cleveland starting to get am I wrong? Why 140 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: is that weird? Cleveland's just starting to become a more 141 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: telegenic team in general, Let's just get these guys. You 142 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: know they're good, they're preparing, staked out his ground as 143 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: that I'm going to decide who's handsome and or not, 144 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: you know, comfortable in my sexuality. That then can make 145 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: judge him some other dudes. Now, if you could be 146 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: that guy too, I welcome it. But you've never been 147 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: that way before, which is why Greg and I reacted 148 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: with Surprime changing as well. Listen, here's the thing. Let 149 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: me ask you something. Dan has Cleveland gotten hotter at 150 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: the receiver position. Well, we we've talked about, I think 151 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: even in the old a TL debate club days, we 152 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: talked about Jimmy Haslin being perhaps the most attractive owner. 153 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: You know, Chud Chud. Let's face it, Chud was a 154 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: five um. So you get him out of the mix, 155 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, they're a little better looking and Matt well, 156 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: Menzel has got charisma, will give him that, But he 157 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: looks like a high school senior. Yeah, so Menzel doesn't exactly. 158 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: I take one issue with what's what you said about Austin. 159 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: I think there is pretty high upside for a May 160 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 1: two thousand and twelve, not exactly the dark ages just 161 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: two seasons ago, nine hundred and forty three yards, sixty 162 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: six catches, six touchdowns. Wasn't lighting the world on fire, 163 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: but when he played the season before that very similar 164 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: production per game. That's very high upside if he can 165 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: stay healthy. He's only twenty nine years old for a 166 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: guy signed this late, is what I'm saying. If you 167 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: could scrape eight hundred yards out of Miles Austin, that's 168 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: a big win. Well, and they're very determined I think 169 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: to make sure that Greg Little does not see meaningful snaps. 170 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: Is Miles Austin their number one receiver right now? What 171 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 1: did well? Josh Gordon has nothing suspended yet, but but 172 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: if he is, yes, I mean, that's just disturbing to comprehends. 173 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: Earl Bennett, I don't think will necessarily make the team 174 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: not allowed to get excited about there a slot receiver. 175 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: He He might be better than Greg Little, though, so 176 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go crazy about Earl Bennett. I agree 177 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 1: Nate for Olson at this stage of his arm ever, 178 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 1: heels properly. You know, who knows what you get. But 179 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: Miles Austin was worth the flyer and then I you know, 180 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: I wrote the Cowboys post on Wednesday when there was 181 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: some some hope about him reuniting there, and I remember 182 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: thinking myself, that's a little weird that this guy has 183 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: not attracted anything, considering he's not yet third, he's about 184 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 1: to turn thirty. He's had some health issues, yes, but 185 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 1: he's also got it's been productive in the past, so 186 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: I thought that was a nice signing by the Cleveland Browns. 187 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: We had a big scientist level back and forth blow 188 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: towards session about how good Austin I mean west leyn 189 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: I think it was. It was Miles Austin versus Santonio 190 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: Holmes and uh I believed in homes, but he's still 191 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: out there on the market. Austin's got a job. Maybe 192 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: they should bring homes in. Oh. I love it. Just 193 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: a wildly disgruntled groups, a group of receivers that had, 194 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 1: you know, no employment a week ago at the mall 195 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: in farmer's hands. Let him deal with it, all right, boys. 196 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: Moving on. Michael sam the seventh round pick of the St. 197 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: Louis Rams and the NFL's first openly gay UH player, 198 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: has announced or the Oprah Winfrey Network, I should say 199 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: announced that it has it is working with Sam on 200 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: a reality television program that will show his life as 201 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: the first openly gay NFL player. UM, to me, this 202 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: that jumped out at me is a little strange after 203 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: his press conference, uh, in which it was a little 204 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: uncomfortable at times, and it appeared, you know, fairly clear 205 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 1: that it was not something he wanted to dwell on 206 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 1: that the story aspect of Michael Sam, it seemed to 207 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: me that he just wanted to kind of be a 208 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: player and try to make this team. And then a 209 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 1: day later this this comes out. And I'm not saying that, 210 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: you know, all of a sudden, Michael Sam's not authentic 211 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 1: or anything, but it's just a little bit I'm not 212 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: sure if the timing is right for Sam, who above 213 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: all else when you forget about the social situation and 214 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: the the what's the real hook nationally of this story? 215 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: When you think of it from pure football, this is 216 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: a seventh round pick, very um little shot of making 217 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: this team. I don't see how this helps him. I 218 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: don't think it's a big deal. People saw this immediately 219 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: and we're just like, oh, not a good move by Sam. 220 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: Don't like this basically, but I don't buy it. It's 221 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: a six episode series on a network that no one 222 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: will ever watch, and don't I just feel like, who cares? Really? 223 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I see your point, and it does make 224 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: you look back at the press conference when he was 225 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: trying to stick a stick just to football, and it's weird. 226 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: There was a report that came out the Rams did 227 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: not know about the series when they drafted him, but 228 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 1: they were giving a heads up before the announcement came out. 229 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: And they'll be giving very little access to Oprah's crew, 230 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: which right not sit well with Oprah, who's a very 231 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: powerful It's just gonna be, you know, following him around, 232 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: not in the team facility and all that. I just 233 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: feel like, if we're at the point where we're debating 234 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: the distraction level of of Oprah Winfrey show for a 235 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: seventh round pick, it's we're just bored. Is this a 236 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 1: team that also could wind up on hard Knocks? Maybe? 237 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: I mean you could Oprah Winfree's eligible for it. I 238 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: don't think it's a big deal, Greg, but I just 239 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: find it seemed a little strange to me that he 240 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: would invite this into the equation at all. I mean, 241 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: he has such long odds against himself. I don't know, 242 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: but maybe he's already looking ahead, maybe smart enough to 243 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: realize that is the seventh round pick. You know, maybe 244 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: the ramps isn't really the big picture for him, it's 245 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: what comes next. I agree with you in the sense 246 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: that I think it's gonna turn some public sentiment against him, 247 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: so to the level that he cares or doesn't care 248 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: about that, I think a lot of people will have 249 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: a negative reaction to this, and who knows, maybe even 250 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: some of his teammates and things like that, they'll they'll just, 251 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: you know, raise their eyebrow kind of like you did. Right. 252 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: And I'm only a little bit ashamed to um acknowledge this. 253 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: But my wife and I watched the Lindsay Lohan OPRAH 254 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 1: documentary series. I would have just assumed that, yes, and 255 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: I will tell you that it was very well produced 256 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: and quite entertaining. So I will probably watch us too, 257 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 1: which will mean I've watched both Oprah docuseries. She does 258 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: have some experience producing television entertainment. Dan, why would you 259 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: be surprised that hero would piece together compelling piece of television? 260 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: So you're putting a cape on for Oprah here in fact, 261 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: if nothing annoys me. By the way, her, which you 262 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: occasionally see her magazine floating around in a news stand 263 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: and like twenty issues in a row. It would be 264 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 1: the person on the cover and there would always be 265 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: like a blurry Oprah in the background, like she's always 266 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: on the cover too with the person, Like let someone 267 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: else have the spotlight. I think she's on every cover. Well, 268 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: that's the disturbing concept. You're done with it. We should 269 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: have around the league, around the League magazine. Don't take 270 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: us off, you know, listen like more serious glum news 271 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: to get to now. So I'm trying to figure out how, 272 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: uh Goldsend, How did the transition here? You professional, Dan, 273 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: Let's get professional. I think you would do it by 274 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: everyone you know that's listening right now. Imagining magazine where 275 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler was on the cover every month. Maybe people 276 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: should send in photoshopped versions of that. That would be fun. 277 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: A lot of issues the magnetic Yeah, no, that's fine, alright, 278 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: Moving on. Aaron Hernandez greg the former New England Patriots 279 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: tight End, was indicted on Thursday on two counts of 280 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: first degree murder related to the deaths of two men 281 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: outside of Boston nightclub in two thousand twelve. No this 282 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: is not the same murder case that Aaron Hornezez is 283 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: facing for the death of Odin Lloyd, the semi pro 284 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: football player who was shot to death and found at 285 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: an industrial park near Aaron hernandez home in Massachusetts, also 286 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: in two thousand twelve. Uh, this is a separate case 287 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: and it does not look good for the former tight end. 288 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: Suffolk County District Attorney Daniel Connolly. Connly laid out the 289 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: specifics of the case during a press conference on Thursday, 290 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: and the line that really stood out was this, Aaron 291 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: Hernandez then fired a thirty eight caliber Revolver moll full 292 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: times from the driver's side of his vehicle into the 293 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: passenger side of the victims vehicle. So not only is 294 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: Hernanda is being charged, he's being fingered by the police 295 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: and by the district attorney as the shooter. It is 296 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: grim this is unbelievable. It's it's outrageous. It's outrageous. I 297 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: just can't believe. Like, if you think about the stuff 298 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: that this guy is tied in with, well, we haven't 299 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: talked about Hernanda is on the podcast in a long time, 300 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: and I don't really and we it doesn't get to 301 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: front and center on our network too often, the different 302 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: aspects of his legal case moving along until something like 303 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: until it reaches a certain level. And this is a 304 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: whole another level. It's two more murders. And if you 305 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: just think of the the timeline of everything, it blows 306 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: my mind. A year ago at this time, they were 307 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: rolling through that top one hundred series. You know who 308 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: numbers even seven was was Aaron Hernandez And we were 309 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: just talking about him, Aaron her Nanda's football player. If 310 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: you go on Twitter right now, his account is still there, 311 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: it's it's verified. And the last few things he was 312 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,239 Speaker 1: saying was have a great Father's Day. That was one 313 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: of them, and just you know stupid like hey, what 314 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: are you guys doing today? Stuff like that, And that's 315 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: from late June. And just the fact that we've gone 316 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: from there and talking about him, is the number seventies 317 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: seven player to a guy who now has three murder charges? Again, 318 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. The only thing I can think of 319 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: that was a parallel in terms of where the scope 320 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: just gets out of control is where we were with O. J. 321 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: Simpson one day and then where we were with him 322 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: the next. It's like, you think completely one way about 323 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: this guy. And then he's not that Aaron Hernandez was 324 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: America's darling at any point, but this is all during 325 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: his career. He's sitting there, all of this is happening 326 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: that he's accused of doing, and then he's going to 327 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: the O t A S like the next day, you 328 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: know that sort of stuff. All right, let's move on. 329 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: Greg Hardy is also into legal trouble. He was arrest 330 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: to Carolina Panthers star was arrested on msdemeanor charges of 331 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 1: assault on a female and communicating threats. This is obviously 332 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: very bad news for the Panthers, who have not had 333 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: a great offseason and now you know, arguably their best 334 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: or their second best player is dealing with an assault case. Uh. 335 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: The situation is still kind of we're kind of learning 336 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,239 Speaker 1: things and piecing it together. It's hard to make out 337 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: of what exactly happened. But not good news for Greg Hardy. Yeah, 338 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: accused of by by the accuser of throwing her onto 339 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: a couch and there was guns and involved there that 340 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: were in the house. We're not going to comment on 341 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: the legal stuff, and who knows that that's all gonna 342 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: play out over time. The football aspect that struck me 343 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: was it's interesting that he signed his franchise tender because 344 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: if he had not signed his franchise tag, which guarantees 345 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: his salary for the year, you would think the Panthers 346 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: would be looking at the situation and considering rescinding it, 347 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: which they can and they could have at any moment. 348 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: So by him signing that, that guaranteed that contract and 349 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: we'll just have to see how the legal process plays 350 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: out in any potential NFL penalties. But he's locked into 351 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: that team for this year, and get us out of 352 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: this corner. I would love to. Let's go to go 353 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: to something. Let's get let's get this. Yeah, let's talk 354 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 1: about the good people. Uh not to say that those 355 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: are bad people, we don't know, but let's move on 356 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: and let's talk something truly important. The Top one list. Yeah, 357 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: how about that. Hernand is not on the list this year. 358 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: Hernett has missed the list in two thousand fourteen revealed 359 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: were revealed on Wednesday night. Dave Damashek was on the 360 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: after show. Damashek, really, I don't know if you've noticed 361 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 1: sneaky for a guy that is always in the newsroom 362 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: talking about how he needs opportunities and heat. He's gotten 363 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: a lot of heat lately. Showed up on TV a lot. Yeah, 364 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: it's great, everyone should watch it. It was a fun show. 365 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 1: I watched it, Silver and Damna Scheck, Lika Befellas Heath 366 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 1: Evans looking at Damnascheck and you can't tell what Evans 367 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: what's going through his mind, but it potentially isn't good. 368 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: I think that's what I love. He puts He puts 369 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: everyone on their heels and uh, I think Check last 370 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: year did a knockout job and he's back. So a 371 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 1: reason to pay attention to this otherwise bizarre endeavor. We'll 372 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: get into it. Why do you think it's bizarre because well, 373 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: it's voted by the players, so you know it's not 374 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: voted by the fans. But some of the results. Should 375 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 1: we just start with one that, oh yeah, well, let 376 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: me just they unveiled the top ten over the weekend 377 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: or the bottom ten, and Matthew Stafford was at a hundred, 378 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: had Jason wit and nine, and then you had the 379 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: one that a lot of stuck with a lot of 380 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: people that have been following this. Matt Forte came in 381 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: at ninety one. Who's coming off a season in which 382 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: he had the crime two thousand yards from the line 383 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: of scrimmage and twelve touchdowns, and then they revealed the 384 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: next ten on Wednesday night. You had Eddie Lacey at ninety. 385 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: Charles Clay comes in at eighty nine. So according to 386 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: this list, this list that the players decided on, Charles 387 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: Clay is a better player than Matt Forte. And I 388 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: can't wrap my head around that. DeMarco Murray at seven 389 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: also had a Matt Forte. And then you have Jordy 390 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: Nelson at eighty three, who's you know, a stud wide receiver, 391 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: and then Kaepernick at eighty one, which actually seemed kind 392 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: of fair. All it tells me because when we vote 393 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: for things, and it's almost like a year in review, 394 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: to some degree, it's that a guy like Forte who 395 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: is just to some painfully consistent. I mean, the guy 396 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: has just been that guy year after year. Somehow he's 397 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: not exciting enough. When Clay obviously made a ton of 398 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: big plays for the Dolphins, and it's not that we 399 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: don't like, yes, he didn't know he had a fine 400 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: season in a pinch when they had compared to Jordy 401 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 1: Nelson or Matt fort All I'm saying is that it's 402 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: not the Clay is a bum. I mean, the guy 403 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: came in when they had no tight end. But the 404 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: fact that he's put there above Matt Forte, and you 405 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: look at the way this list is constructed, it's impossible 406 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: to view this thing with any credibility. Can you cut 407 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: that gold center? So Mark says Clay as a bum 408 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: and then send it to the Dolphins that that's gonna be. 409 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: He spent like an hour on a December morning writing 410 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: about his season because I thought he honestly was an 411 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: excellent player from Miami. But this is out outrageous. So 412 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 1: that's how we'll send out the tweet. Right, Clay is 413 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: a dash. Mike Sessler got a d M from Clay, 414 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: he says Cessler Comma, who wrote fawning post in December. 415 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: Comma turns on Clay, Well, this list is supposed to 416 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 1: be the top one players of two thousand and fourteen, 417 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 1: so that's the upcoming season. So maybe all these players 418 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: that were voting, they just had a Sessler, if you will, 419 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 1: that child that watch out this guy's and they've worked 420 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: out about as well as mine have ye that watch 421 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: out We're gonna see a whole new Charles Clay this year. 422 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: Better whole new because the guy that played for the 423 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,719 Speaker 1: Dobbins last year, nice player, but he's not better than 424 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: that for tight no. I I do want to say 425 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: that the show, if you watch, it's pretty cool. I 426 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: It's not even something that I would have immediately been 427 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: attracted to if I wasn't working here necessarily. It's like 428 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: got another list. They're just kind of like making, you know, 429 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: content because you need to, and there is a level 430 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: of that. But if you watch the show. I was 431 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: watching one of them today and listen to the players 432 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: talking about the other players, you hear some stuff that 433 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: you don't hear elsewhere. Roddy White was talking about Brent 434 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: Grimes and just saying he thinks that Grimes is the 435 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: best athlete in the NFL, and he was talking about 436 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: his foot speed and he was talking about how Grimes 437 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: on one play back pedaled then went forward and and 438 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: made a tip catch. And someone was talking about what 439 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: I saw a formal former teammate it is, but he 440 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: was talking about how his ups are unlike any NFL 441 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: player and have really ever thought that about Grimes? And 442 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: then they showed it and he makes this great leaping 443 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: play and you're like, here's the here's what I take 444 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: away from it. Also on the positive end is yeah, 445 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: you can kind of write it off as some junkie 446 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: thing they're rolling out to kill time on the network, 447 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: but it is a well produced be the players are 448 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: involved with it, so you know it is It does 449 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 1: give a certain level of truth that these are guys 450 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: that are in the league and see the players care. 451 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: I mean they care where they're ranking. If you're following 452 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: social media when these guys come on the show and 453 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: you could see, you know, Forte was clearly perturbed to 454 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 1: be where he was. So it's kind of a cool thing, 455 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,479 Speaker 1: especially this time of year, to have something that has 456 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: some tangible value, at least to the players. And these 457 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 1: are the people that you're watching, And I know, Dan 458 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: that was You're gonna get a lot of pats, Like, 459 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 1: it's not that the concept is a mess, it's that 460 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: some of the results are just conversation starters. Anything else 461 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: bother you about the list? Well, let me let's let's 462 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: say something I think they got right, which is Kaepernick 463 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: at about eighty one, which is where he was a 464 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 1: year ago. They have in my think is the thirteen 465 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: or fourteen quarterback quarterback on this list alright, so somewhere 466 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: between twelve and fourteen, gentlemen, Rain's Colin Kaepernick. I think 467 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: they got that right at this stage. I agree. It 468 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: was such a big question going into last year, like 469 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: what what is Kaepernick gonna be? And what he ended 470 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: up being, which I think this reflects is Elli about 471 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: the same as he was a year ago. He took 472 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: some steps back and then he made some improvements in 473 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: it all amounted to a pretty flat line type of year, 474 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: but no one I mean. And also by the way 475 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: he stayed where he was. When you take his receiving corps, 476 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: you strip it away. He's got a chance to jump 477 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: up this list this season with the receivers they've added. 478 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: I love four to eight. He had almost two thousand 479 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: yards from scrimmage. Reggie Bush is not in the same 480 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:52,959 Speaker 1: class to Marco. Murray does nothing better than Matt Forte 481 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: on a field other than running a straight line fast. 482 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: That's the only thing Murray does better. Every other post 483 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: able football's trait that you could come up with four 484 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: days better at it. Kiko Alonso thought was a little 485 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: high too, and I think we all agreed Jordy Nelson's 486 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: vastly under Reggie Bush. I agree that he doesn't deserve 487 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: to be where he is here. And I thought that 488 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: two thousand thirteen season for Reggie Bush was La Ravi mcnifico, 489 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: the great reveal. You put him in the exact ideal 490 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,239 Speaker 1: situation for a man of his skills and his abilities. Uh. 491 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: And he stayed healthy for most of the year, and 492 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: he had some really nice moments, but he also had 493 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: trouble with ball security. And you know, he was on 494 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 1: balance a good uh running back with ability to catch 495 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: up a out of the backfield, but not great. So 496 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: he is what he is like, there's no more the 497 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: Reggie Bush hype train can roll on from now into eternity. 498 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: But he is what he is at this point. It 499 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: is he's good. Yeah? Is this? Does this list tell us? What? 500 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: If you're a defensive player. I'm gonna rank guys on 501 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: how how hard they are to prepare for during the 502 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,719 Speaker 1: week and deal with on the field. Where you look 503 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: at a guy like Stafford, He's not higher. They don't 504 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 1: care about stats. I'm saying stafford stats have been outrageous 505 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 1: over the years, but he's so far down. I've noticed 506 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: I've noticed some quotes that I've either read, uh while 507 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: you know, doing research for around the league, or I've 508 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: seen a TV where research has yeah, um, in which 509 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: guys have had less than glowing kind of comments about Stafford. 510 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if he has a great reputation around 511 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: the league as as one of the true great quarterbacks. 512 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 1: And this list kind of tells you that. It also 513 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: tells me a lot of Dolphins are voting because there's 514 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: no other way Charles Clay gets in the top ninety. 515 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: Don't tell I mean right, there is no other chance. 516 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: There's there is no chance that anyone who was not 517 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: on the Dolphins voted for Charles Clay. And the way 518 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: it works is you vote for your top twenty. You 519 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: don't even vote for the top Every player votes for 520 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: their top twenty and that that's all average out in 521 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: the top. Does that mean some some people had Clay 522 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 1: in the top twenty. A lot of Dolphins voted Clay 523 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: over Tannehill? You know what, I guess Daniel Thomas voted 524 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: in half his teammates classic Daniel Thomas move. Alright, boys, 525 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: do we have anything else to say on this? I'm 526 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: sure will come up again, and when West is back, 527 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: I'm sure Wessell destroy the entire process. So we can 528 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: just stick a pin in it for now, all right, folks, 529 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: gold Standard, it's that time. This is Goldsener his favorite 530 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: part of the show. Why from Culver City, California. It's 531 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: America's favorite game show. All right. You know, we don't 532 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: know how much how much longer gold Sander will be 533 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: with us. He maybe forever, maybe not much longer. You 534 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: don't ever, You never know, but we'll always have that, Zack, 535 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: your voice will always be in the studio at least 536 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: for that. It's a wonderful legacy. Thank you. I'll have 537 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: the memories of you dancing around back there just now 538 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: as a giddy little schoolgirl. I'm glad you want with 539 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: girl on that one. All right. So this is this 540 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: is a game that we've played several times. This one 541 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: is not very complicated at all. We take turns and 542 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: we throw out two possibilities and we ask what more likely? 543 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: So why don't we play the game and I will 544 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: get it going, and uh, you know, just feel free 545 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: to be honest in your opinions. That's all we ask. 546 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: Mark has never done anything less more likely Cody Lattimer 547 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: has a one thousand yards season in two thousand fourteen, 548 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: or Eric Decker has a one thousand yards season in 549 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: two thousand fourteen. Eric Decker, Yeah, I see what you're 550 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: doing here. You're just trying to create a question where 551 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: we have to answer with a positive thing about the Jets. 552 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: Nailed it. No, I mean, it's what do you mean? 553 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: That's a great question because a lot of people think 554 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: that Decker his value will be depressed statistically. Meanwhile, oh, 555 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: Cody Latimer, immediately he is going to go right into 556 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: that Broncos offense and become a playmaker. Is you know 557 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: what's more likely? Well, Latimer right now, still nursing a 558 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: foot injury, may not really be ready to roll until 559 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: training camp. But in an offense that broke records last season, 560 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Decker, though, because the Jets just don't 561 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: have too much else at the position. I can't believe. 562 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: This is not a good question. It's not even you 563 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: can't even take it seriously. Is a rookie who's maybe 564 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: gott to be their fourth receiver? I mean, have you 565 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: ever heard of a guy named Damarus Thomas and Wes 566 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: Welker and Emmanuel Sanders. They just signed Emmanuel Sanders, and 567 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: then you've got Julius Thomas taking things I wouldn't. I 568 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: don't think Vladimir would make it over five hundred yards 569 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: two hundred yards. I attempted to answer the in a 570 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: serious manner that would shine a light on Gang Green. 571 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: I think Decker has a good chance to anyway I am. 572 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: I'm not negative on Decker. I think he's receiving is 573 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: not what it was at another time. So I don't 574 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: think it's analyst. You know, it's not going to make 575 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: him some sort of you know, elite Sudden New York. 576 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: You know mine sweeper. That means all right, And I 577 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: can't wait till Greg, because I'm gonna go nuts. Whatever 578 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: it is, mark your turn? What more? All right? Johnny 579 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: Manziel in Cleveland wins more games? Or Teddy Bridgewater wins 580 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: more games for the Vikings. M hm m hmm. I 581 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: thought about this. I had a tough time with this one. 582 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: I think that Josh Gordon messes everything up. I can't 583 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: figure it out. I don't know what the Browns are 584 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: anymore because of Josh Gordon. But then again, I've already 585 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: gone on record saying that Teddy Bridgewater, we'll be out 586 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: of the league. So just to clarify, it's not Vikings 587 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: or Manzel wins because not Browns. If I mean Vikings 588 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: are Brown's wins. If Bridgewater is on the bench, he 589 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: doesn't get You've got a factor in how many starts, 590 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: how many wins. I feel good about this Manzel, and 591 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: it's not just because I think he's a safer bet 592 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: to start more games. I think the Browns are better 593 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: overall team with or without Gordon. I would take Manzel 594 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,479 Speaker 1: and I feel good about it. Good defense if they 595 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: don't have to just win it on their rookie quarterback. 596 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: I don't like the Vikings at all, so that certainly helps. 597 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: I think I like the brown easy with Josh Gordon 598 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: in the picture. With Josh Gordon out of the picture, 599 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: I still think the Browns have a better roster. And 600 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: then I like Manzell better as a quarterback. Uh, we 601 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: don't know if how long it will take for Menzel 602 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: to get in the line of which is West's softball pants? 603 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: Uh debate is all about, but yeah, I think the listen. 604 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: I think the Browns could be an eight and eight team. 605 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: This year, plus, I don't see the Vikings. Doesn't have 606 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: to worry about my boy Matt Castle because when the 607 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: Castle Nader starts out there with a couple of that 608 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: is a nickname that needs work there. But he starts 609 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: out the season with a couple of wins. Forget about Bridgewater. 610 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to start out any season. 611 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: But I do think that I asked a question right 612 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: there on the generated conversation some debate and I see 613 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: the same route though you got a positive response about 614 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: your team. Listen, Dan and I need to do what 615 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: we can to get the good people. Be careful though, 616 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: because one of our top bosses, um spoke to us 617 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: in the newsroom just this morning and lamented the amount 618 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: of Brown's coverage in an a recent podcast. And you 619 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: wonder what is because after one week that's too much 620 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: versus a decade plus of endless Tom Brady and Peyton Man, 621 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: wait a minute, we we have tired of the news 622 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: out of Cleveland. It's been two or three podcasts of this. 623 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: I do feel we do talk about the Browns affair, Duke, 624 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: I think it's too much enough enough. Well, I'm not 625 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: going to talk about Dominique easily or the Patriots in 626 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: my thank you little thank God more, let's go to 627 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 1: the wide receiver position. Well, that's not the you once. 628 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: What's more likely is dropped. You gotta just roll out 629 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: with hosting one on one. I got it. Okay, let's 630 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: do it more. Sammy Watkins goes over a thousand yards 631 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 1: receiving for the Bills, or Mike Evans goes over one 632 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 1: thousand yards receiving for the Bucks. This is easy for me. 633 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 1: I go Evans. I think that that offense is set 634 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: up for a guy like Evans to come in. We 635 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: saw what Mike Williams and Vincent Jackson did last year, 636 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 1: and they've got Williams didn't do a lot well, No, 637 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: but when they when well when before the quarterback situation 638 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: turned into utter chaos. Two tall receivers to a lot 639 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: of going on there. I like Evans. What my problem 640 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: is more, Buffalo EJ. Manual remains a total question mark. 641 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: To me. Have a hard time calling anyone in that 642 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 1: offensive thousand yard receiver as an automatic. Here's my issue 643 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 1: with your issue is that you you write EJ. Manuel 644 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: as a question mark. And that's fair, but I'm not 645 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: so sure sold as the rest of America that Josh 646 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 1: mccount is now a franchise quarterback forever and ever. I 647 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 1: could just as easily seeing that flame out. And then 648 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: you if Glennon enter this picture, maybe you know that's 649 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: a good backup situation. So I get that now. I 650 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: will say this. I am not I never professed to 651 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: be a big college football watcher, but I've heard enough 652 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 1: about Sammy Watkins to be told that this is a 653 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: guy that is a monster, monster prospect that the Bills 654 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 1: Doug Well he was so high on him that he 655 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: was willing to potentially trade up to number one in 656 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: this draft to try to secure him. He ended up 657 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: having a trade up to four and got it done. 658 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,800 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go on what I'm hearing and what 659 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: we were reading and say, this guy is so good 660 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: that he will have a breakout rookie season. They will 661 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,800 Speaker 1: put him over a thousand yards. Really also called Evans 662 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,240 Speaker 1: the type of receiver that Buffalo misses and is missing 663 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 1: and needs because he's a big, tall guy that can 664 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: win jump ball matchups. Evans is gonna thrive in Tampa. 665 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: That team is going to go to the playoffs, And 666 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: I don't listen. Jeff Headfords a good quarterback coach. I 667 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: don't I it's not Mark Trestman. It's not Mark Trustman. 668 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 1: But he's a good He does a good job with 669 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: that offense. I think McCown is not going to fall 670 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: off the edge of a cliff. And by the way, 671 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that Glennan doesn't come in and continue 672 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 1: where he left off last season. I'm loving that I 673 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: inspired some heat right here. That's called the good question. 674 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: Different answers arguing very self congratulatory pod um. Unlike all 675 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: our other one more Blake Bortles is out of the 676 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: NFL by two thousand eighteen or Teddy Bridgewater is out 677 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: of the NFL by two Thoeen, gentlemen, I know you're 678 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: saying gonna skew negative here, and that's not fair. But 679 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 1: the truth of the NFL is this, most of these 680 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 1: quarterbacks fail. Most of them struggle and don't become what 681 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 1: these teams think they will be. At least one of 682 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 1: these gentlemen, and maybe both will be out of the 683 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: league or at least hanging on a roster Brady Quinn style. 684 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: I'm asking you which one is more likely. Wow, listen, 685 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: it's really Hey, welcome, Hi. I'm Dan. Reality. Neither is 686 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: neither is more likely what I don't know, It's not 687 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: likely at all. I don't like the question, Um, let's 688 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: go Bordles. I guess if I had to choose one 689 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: to be a total washout, I would choose Bordles. I 690 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: don't think that's gonna happen because to be out of 691 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: the league or close to it as a first round 692 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 1: quarterback is nearly impossible to do. You have to be 693 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 1: JaMarcus Russell. No in that short of a time span. 694 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 1: I mean that's before the end of his rookie contract. 695 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, maybe he's hanging around, like you said, 696 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: as a backup or a third stringer, like a Blaine 697 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: Gabber in San Francisco or something like that. To me, 698 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 1: it's Bordos because he's the bigger X factor coming from 699 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,760 Speaker 1: Central Florida, the the raw tools, the sort of prospect 700 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 1: that everyone is thinking is going to develop at the 701 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: NFL level. To me, that's Bortles. So I'm gonna go 702 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 1: with it. I mean, Dan, you have to. I mean, 703 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 1: I don't want to answer the question that you you 704 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: have to predict a major injury to have to have 705 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: a go at that time frame up, I'm asking very 706 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 1: close to it. Let me answer the question that I will. 707 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: I will go also with Bordles, but I'm gonna spin 708 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 1: it in the For me, it's it's a positive about 709 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: for me Bridgewater and that he is considered an incredibly 710 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: intelligent UH passer that's excellent on the board, that can 711 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: learn offenses quickly. I think he's an asset as a 712 00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 1: backup if he isn't a starter. And he's also known 713 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: as a really accurate guy, a guy that I think 714 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: has something to offer almost anywhere he goes. I think 715 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,919 Speaker 1: he will still be with the Vikings Jacksonville, a team 716 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,359 Speaker 1: in flux to some degree. I like what they're doing though. 717 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,479 Speaker 1: But Bordles, you're right, just maybe more of a wild card. 718 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 1: I feel like Bridgewater has a lower or a higher 719 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: floor whereas he's safe. The worst case scenario I feel 720 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: like for Teddy Bridgewater is he's gonna be a good backup, 721 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 1: whereas Boardles. You kind of don't know. Alright, So we're 722 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: running running a little short on time, so why don't 723 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: we roll through the rest of this. We'll kind of 724 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 1: do a little bit of a lightning round. What's more 725 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:37,919 Speaker 1: likely get excited people? Mark Sessler started off lightning round. 726 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 1: More Bishops Sanky for the Titans has more touchdowns or 727 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: Chris Johnson for the Jets has more touchdowns at the 728 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 1: end of the season. Oh, this is testing my lightning round. 729 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Sanky. I'm high on him. We 730 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 1: did it. I did a piece on a site which 731 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,800 Speaker 1: rookies are gonn touched the ball the most. Sanky number 732 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 1: one by far. I think he's gonna be Rookie of 733 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 1: the Year Bishop Sanky. I would say Sanky, and there 734 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense why he maybe should be 735 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: because Seohn Green just had surgery and there's not a 736 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 1: lot there. But also, the Titans are terrible. I don't 737 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 1: think they're gonna score a lot. I think the Jets 738 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: are hardcore, ground and pound. I think Johnson's got something 739 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 1: to prove. Chris Johnson shocking he went with the Jets more. 740 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: Bishop Sanky wins Rookie of the Year or Johnny Manzel 741 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 1: Win's Rookie of the Year. Menzel Yeah, I would just 742 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 1: I'd always go with the quarterback and I I think 743 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: they're both tough calls on that one. I'm not sure 744 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: I'm sold in the Sanky blowing the world up. I 745 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 1: think a lot of touches for a bad football team. 746 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,240 Speaker 1: I'm going Manzel. Yeah, Greg, I know you love Sanky. 747 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,280 Speaker 1: It's almost getting a little weird, your love of Sanky. 748 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 1: But Manzel is set up so well that if he thrives, 749 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 1: it's gonna be Johnny Mania across the nation. And I 750 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,840 Speaker 1: think that's where your money is. People are calling Sanky 751 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 1: the next coming of Vick Ballard, by the way, so 752 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 1: I don't give him, give him the hardware, no more. 753 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,799 Speaker 1: All right, this is a four way. Here we go. Oh, 754 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: I got, I have no regards a very Charlie cast 755 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 1: I got something big because I don't even know how 756 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 1: to how to actually say this, But a quarterback switch 757 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 1: will first be made by the Browns, the Vikings, the Jags, 758 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 1: or the Raiders. What's most likely. I'd go Raiders because 759 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,880 Speaker 1: they have the second. I think they're gonna start with 760 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 1: job and it's not gonna last too long. Then you 761 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: go to car it'd be quick three weeks. Browns, Vikings, 762 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 1: Jaguars or the Oakland Raiders. Jaguars they'll start with Chad Henny. 763 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 1: Do the blame Gabbett, move where they you know, they 764 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: go like two weeks and then put so you don't 765 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: believe a word coming out of anyone's mouth in Florida. 766 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 1: Flier has got issues, you know, fair enough? What more 767 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 1: likely Blake Bortles throws for three thousand yards as a rookie, 768 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 1: or the Tom Savage conspiracy is revealed he never shows 769 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 1: up for practice and it's learned he is indeed not 770 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 1: a human. I'm going Savage because we've seen literal note, 771 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 1: there's no tangible proof that he exists as on the 772 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 1: human realm. He's a creation, He's he'saz Morely, West comes 773 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,759 Speaker 1: back from his weekend jaunt up the coast with his 774 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 1: lady friend as a man in a committed relationship or 775 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 1: single and ready to mingle. I'm going in a committed 776 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 1: relationship because otherwise we're essentially rooting against, not necessarily just 777 00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 1: what you're feeling. Look at it like, put on your 778 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 1: all this hat. I'm sticking with that. I am too. 779 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,399 Speaker 1: I think the table has been set for that. Uh. 780 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 1: And you know, why would I Why would I wish 781 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 1: anything but not wishing? You're analyzing the situation. I can't 782 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 1: separate my wishes from my analysis. We're gonna get him 783 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 1: on the phone. I'll put my analysts head on. He's 784 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 1: treating her to a pretty nice weekend. Here, can we 785 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 1: gold centered get West on the line. You'll notice I 786 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 1: did not give my answer because after what you guys 787 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 1: set it up. I feel bad telling you. How are you? 788 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:38,800 Speaker 1: Hashtag analysis? I think he's sober right now. Yes, of 789 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:56,880 Speaker 1: course he might be predisposed Chris Westling. Yes, sir, this 790 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 1: is the Around the League podcast. How are you, buddy? 791 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 1: I'm doing great. I am in the least creative city 792 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,719 Speaker 1: in America. Oh boy, he's he's flying already. Where are you? 793 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:12,280 Speaker 1: What makes it so a void of creativity? Their street 794 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 1: names are all letters of the alphabet. I'm on L street. 795 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 1: Wells your anti letter streets. I didn't realize that I'm 796 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,319 Speaker 1: anti creativity. Can't we come up with some names here. 797 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 1: I like that West's lady friend is on the other 798 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,760 Speaker 1: end of this rand. I'm sure you've had a conversation. 799 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 1: I like that he has a take on everything there 800 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,240 Speaker 1: what West will be happen to know? We just played 801 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: the game that everyone loves. Go get my family. What's 802 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 1: more likely? And you were the final question. We're just 803 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 1: curious without getting to too many specifics. How are things 804 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 1: going right now with you and your lady friend? Everything's 805 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 1: point great? Is she next to you right now? No? No, no? 806 00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 1: Do we want to talk to her? All right? Put 807 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 1: R on? Hey what's up? This is Dan Anzs with 808 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 1: the Randomly podcast. Mark Cesslering. Hey, what's up? Hey? It's good. 809 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:12,799 Speaker 1: Good to talk to you again. Oh yeah, you guys 810 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:17,319 Speaker 1: are old friends. How are things going with West right now? Oh? Good? 811 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,320 Speaker 1: Is he trying to drive up to the kiway? Is that? 812 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 1: I mean? It seems like he's set up something nice 813 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 1: for you guys this weekend. It seems like he's put 814 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 1: some effort in him. Or did you set up This 815 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 1: is Greg Rosenthal by the way, did he I'm doing well? 816 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:34,759 Speaker 1: Did you set up the whole weekend? And he's just 817 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 1: kind of chauffeuring you around? I set up none of it? 818 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 1: Very nice. I will tell you what. Um, I'm sorry, 819 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 1: what's your name again, Aaron? I'll tell you what. It 820 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:50,959 Speaker 1: sounds like you've got a nice weekend plan and West 821 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,719 Speaker 1: he must like you. That's all I can say. Maybe, yeah, 822 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,760 Speaker 1: we have a great weekend. Alright, have a good weekend. 823 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:03,839 Speaker 1: Enjoy it. Give us West back please all right, West, 824 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 1: nice set up. Looks like you got a good set 825 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 1: up for the weekend. I do, yeah, And don't mess 826 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 1: us up. Man, it's she's a good girl. Man, I'm 827 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,719 Speaker 1: in a good spot. We're staying off the freeways. No, 828 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 1: you mean there was like motels and things of that nature. Like, No, 829 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna go a little inland. No, up the Pacific 830 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 1: Coast drive. He's not. He's not like the cops can't 831 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,879 Speaker 1: find us. I'm not a freeway kind of guy. Well, 832 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,319 Speaker 1: just tell Aaron next time. Dan will even know her name, 833 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:42,359 Speaker 1: so it'll be fantastic. And West, yeah, so have fun 834 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 1: and uh and we'll see you on Monday and you're 835 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 1: gonna tell us all about your adventure. But everything sounds promising. 836 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,919 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's gonna be great. All right, man, he listened. 837 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 1: He sounds a little distracted right now, well as he 838 00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 1: should be. Well, he is driving a like large mechanical 839 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 1: vehicle hurtling through. West is driving big Irish. Uh you know, 840 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 1: Big Molly, which I call it the car that barely 841 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 1: is is operating at this point. I am not driving 842 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 1: my car. No, Big Molly has gotten the weekend off, 843 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 1: all right, big Irish alright, so West, have a nice 844 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 1: weekend and we'll catch you on the other side, buddy, okay, farewell. Yeah, Greg, 845 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 1: you know to blow up my spot that I forgot 846 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 1: the woman's name. Yeah, that's that's my own personal problems 847 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 1: because we already had mentioned her name before. Is Aaron. 848 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 1: I thought you were checking giving her an opportunity to 849 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 1: not provide her name. I thought there was some high 850 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,120 Speaker 1: level hosting there, but obviously not the case, Not at all, 851 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 1: not the case. Okay, so we'll see that that actually 852 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 1: sounded my friend. I know, we'll we'll check in with 853 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 1: West on Monday. That is it. We got, we gotta go. Uh. 854 00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 1: That's it for Thursday's editionally Around the League podcast. We 855 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:05,440 Speaker 1: will be back three more shows next week, three more 856 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:09,759 Speaker 1: shows marks lock in, be ready, he prepared. Until then, 857 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 1: the stand Hands is signing off with the Sizzler, the 858 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 1: Boss and the gold Standard behind the Glass until next week.