Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast Can't Stop Eating Baked Goods?
Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Kansas. I come to you from
Speaker 1: a virtual room filled with some heroes. Mark Sessler, Greg Rosental.
Speaker 1: What's up boys? Oh Tuesday show? It's fact I don't show.
Speaker 1: I don't get where some of the tags come from.
Speaker 1: Is that something that I've um missed along the way
Speaker 1: that someone here is obsessed with baked goods and cannot
Speaker 1: stop eating them? I don't remember that narrative. Usually when
Speaker 1: you reference food, it will be something about meat, like
Speaker 1: you're eating pig liver or something. You don't usually move
Speaker 1: into the baking realm when you're making your food takes.
Speaker 1: And I don't remember making any comments myself, So yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a mystery to me too. I don't either,
Speaker 1: But I do wonder as a food to arryan Mark
Speaker 1: famously just you know, don't like food? How has how
Speaker 1: has it been you know and locked down? You know,
Speaker 1: coronavirus time? As a foodittarian, well, I think we all
Speaker 1: had our period where you were just eating way too
Speaker 1: much take out um and and and as parents, you
Speaker 1: I fall victim of eating what the kids eat too often,
Speaker 1: which is unpleasant. But I have developed a love for
Speaker 1: ramen noodle UM, which I don't think I had, you know,
Speaker 1: in my system um previous. But I take out or
Speaker 1: like the thirty cent things from the groceries, well, a
Speaker 1: little bit of both. Take out for has I've had
Speaker 1: some delicious take out ramen um. But since we moved
Speaker 1: to Hawthorne, California, home of the Beach Boys, UM, I've
Speaker 1: been using more the cook at yourself versions, which are
Speaker 1: just delightful and they're easy to make. I you know,
Speaker 1: I can make those without directions. No, I would love
Speaker 1: I would love Mark for you. You know Mike Low
Speaker 1: from the Beach Boys, the one that's no one likes.
Speaker 1: Sure for you to just start wearing the Beach Boys
Speaker 1: based all cap that Mike Low wears an all time
Speaker 1: to cover up his bald spot. You mean Mike Love
Speaker 1: because his nephew was on the Cavaliers or is on
Speaker 1: the Cavaliers for for a while there. Yeah, he loves
Speaker 1: his nephew. His nephew. Yeah, Mike Love, though is notoriously um.
Speaker 1: He had some reasons to be annoyed with uh, one
Speaker 1: of the Beach Boys. He passed away. I don't think
Speaker 1: we need to get to it on this show, but
Speaker 1: there were some stuff that I would see as a
Speaker 1: it would it would it would end some friendships if
Speaker 1: if someone did the same. Let's put it that way. Okay,
Speaker 1: See that's good. You have both sides now covered of
Speaker 1: the Beach Boys controversy here on the Around the NFL
Speaker 1: podcast Very Busy show, you mentioned your children. My family
Speaker 1: left for Texas this morning. So the house is silent
Speaker 1: and weird. I don't like it two weeks and you
Speaker 1: like it a little bit. Well, I like it probably
Speaker 1: for two days, but I don't. I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: it's just not my thing. Uh So it's very quiet
Speaker 1: and weird here. So it's good to have company with you,
Speaker 1: gentlemen and all of our listeners across the world as
Speaker 1: we dig into the final game of week nine, the
Speaker 1: first game of week ten, and we have a guest
Speaker 1: this week. Uh you know, you might have remembered our
Speaker 1: Wheel of Team series that was very divisive amongst the
Speaker 1: fan base. People upset that they thought the Wheel of
Speaker 1: Teams was rigged. That wasn't we're not bringing back the wheel,
Speaker 1: but we're we wanted to focus in on one team
Speaker 1: now once we're in the season, it will be the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles. And to do that, we are going to
Speaker 1: speak with Bo Wolf of the Athletics. So we're excited,
Speaker 1: uh to do that. So let us get this show rolling,
Speaker 1: and yes, start with what went down Monday night at
Speaker 1: the Meadow Ends. Jets have a time out left that
Speaker 1: they wanted Folk all the way and it is good
Speaker 1: with the seals of the clock, Nick Folk the field
Speaker 1: goal from fifty one yards away, and that's how the
Speaker 1: Jets fall to Oh and fine, I'm a Patriots fight
Speaker 1: on for another day. That's Steve Levy, who, by the way,
Speaker 1: was just on the Rich Sumini of ESPN dot com
Speaker 1: Flight Jacks podcast. He's a Jets fan, so that might
Speaker 1: have been a tough call for him. Yes, Nick Folk,
Speaker 1: the Extjet hits the fifty one yard or lifting the
Speaker 1: Patriots to win over Gang Green. The Pats wiped out
Speaker 1: at ten point fourth quarter deficit in this game too. Clearly,
Speaker 1: let's be honest, save their season potentially here, they lose
Speaker 1: to the Jets on Monday Night. With the Ravens coming
Speaker 1: up in a week, they're they're done, potentially two and
Speaker 1: six with two and seven on the way, but they
Speaker 1: saved their own bacon Greg Rosenthal, and they did it
Speaker 1: because they dominated the fourth quarter in a way you
Speaker 1: don't typically see in our league. Yeah, you got a
Speaker 1: take what you can get, you know, as a fan
Speaker 1: or just as a person in the year. I think
Speaker 1: I think this is gonna go down as the high
Speaker 1: point of the Patriots season, which which sounds funny, Like
Speaker 1: there's a way you could look at this is like
Speaker 1: it's it's sad how how far they've fallen that they
Speaker 1: gotta come back from ten um or you could just
Speaker 1: like enjoy enjoy the moment that they gotta come back.
Speaker 1: It was fun at the offense and Cam Newton made
Speaker 1: plays and that's it. You know. It's sometimes NFL seasons
Speaker 1: like if you're a fan, you're you're hoping for a destination, right,
Speaker 1: the Patriots have no destination. You know, there, this is there.
Speaker 1: I think in the best case scenario, they're winning six
Speaker 1: or seven games. I think they're one of the worst
Speaker 1: teams in the NFL. They're definitely one of the worst
Speaker 1: defenses in the NFL, and I don't think that changes. Um,
Speaker 1: So you got you gotta like take take what you
Speaker 1: can get and have some fun along the way. They
Speaker 1: might have a couple of fun wins like like this.
Speaker 1: You you do not want to lose to the Jets.
Speaker 1: That would have been uh embarrassing, I think for Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick and and everyone else considering where the Jets were
Speaker 1: at it. But there it's not like something you come
Speaker 1: out of and you think, Okay, let's let's uh you know,
Speaker 1: get it going, let's save our season. Like they're cook there.
Speaker 1: There's no coming back from the lack of talent that
Speaker 1: they have, uh in the front seven of their defense.
Speaker 1: I think if you're a Jets fan, this was and
Speaker 1: and this is my takedown, you may have a different
Speaker 1: one on the Jets, but the best possible outcome because
Speaker 1: they were competitive and this was their first real look
Speaker 1: to have Jamison Crowder, Brashad Perriman and Denzel Mims who
Speaker 1: who we are starting to see moments from Denzel Mims
Speaker 1: to give you hope they were They hadn't been on
Speaker 1: the field together all season. And I know it's Joe Flacco,
Speaker 1: but Flac Flacco played uh like the Flacco of old.
Speaker 1: I mean, I you know, he can't move and stuff,
Speaker 1: but he he he found big plays against the secondary
Speaker 1: of the Patriots have no pass rush. I mean, but
Speaker 1: but you cannot come out of this thing with a win.
Speaker 1: And I know that it's different for the players and
Speaker 1: the coaches, but the Jets right now have the Chargers,
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, the Raiders, the Seahawks, the Rams, the Browns
Speaker 1: and the Patriots. Again, if you get through that with
Speaker 1: the number one pick, you're you're looking at a front
Speaker 1: office with a bevy of other selections. Um, you will
Speaker 1: go get the best quarterback available. With a new coaching staff,
Speaker 1: the era of you know, laughing stock scenarios for the
Speaker 1: Jets would end quickly. And so had they won last night,
Speaker 1: And you know, I thought when they drafted Sam Donald
Speaker 1: too well, but he's been put in a terrible situation.
Speaker 1: I think you'd start to see the team hopefully take
Speaker 1: a bit of a turn with a better general manager,
Speaker 1: more selections. And you know, Trevor Lawrence grades higher than
Speaker 1: any of these quarterbacks that have come through the system
Speaker 1: in the last five or six years. So bigger picture,
Speaker 1: I mean, it would be nice to not, you know,
Speaker 1: go oh in sixteen, but you don't want to fall
Speaker 1: out of that number one position. I mean yes, I
Speaker 1: was told that repeatedly on Twitter by people that are
Speaker 1: texting me. Don't let your team win keep losing. All right, fine,
Speaker 1: I guess good job for by the Jets last night.
Speaker 1: You know, I thought the Jets were stepping on the
Speaker 1: rake from either direction last night. And Mark, you you'll
Speaker 1: get fired up about Twitter middle middle school as you
Speaker 1: call it um quite often and usually I don't, but
Speaker 1: you know, when you're a little closer to the situation, it, Uh,
Speaker 1: it's annoying because last night, basically it was coming from
Speaker 1: all directions. You had the bottomless Belichick conspiracies, which were
Speaker 1: really cute all week. Mark, I'm not coming after you,
Speaker 1: but about them. In thousand people, Uh cooked up that
Speaker 1: same exact theory that Belichick was gonna ruin the Jets season.
Speaker 1: So you had that going on. And um, so if
Speaker 1: the Jets win, Belichick gets the best of you and
Speaker 1: you laugh at them for ruining the tank for Trevor Sweepstakes.
Speaker 1: If the Jets lose, everyone gets to laugh at them
Speaker 1: for their incompetence. Uh. And that's just where things are
Speaker 1: right now, and it makes football less fun for me.
Speaker 1: But I did enjoy that they actually were competitive in
Speaker 1: this game and that I take a positive out of that,
Speaker 1: just because I don't like watching the team get absolutely
Speaker 1: killed week after week. And with the Patriots, it's like
Speaker 1: that wasn't the Patriots having a bad night? That was like,
Speaker 1: can you believe that the Patriots, you know, overlook the
Speaker 1: Jets that that they had a trap game with the
Speaker 1: Ravens and they almost like, no, the Patriots aren't good,
Speaker 1: they are not a good team. And the fact that, uh,
Speaker 1: if the Jets were just competent in the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: with their with some decision making and play calling and
Speaker 1: maybe get one stop on defense, that Jets should have
Speaker 1: won that game going away. So yeah, the Patriots I
Speaker 1: think are are still in deep trouble. Uh. But for
Speaker 1: the to your point, Mark like, I get it, I
Speaker 1: get it. And Jets fans are so starved and neglected
Speaker 1: after years of abuse that there's a vocal portion of
Speaker 1: the fan pace van fanity. So that will just get
Speaker 1: after you and deride you as a fool for even
Speaker 1: entertaining the notion that you shouldn't root for your team
Speaker 1: to go oh and sixteen. But I think life is
Speaker 1: too short for owen sixth. Just because you win, you
Speaker 1: win one game in Week nine doesn't mean they just
Speaker 1: don't get Trevor Lawrence. And even if they get Trevor Lawrence,
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that Jets are gonna all of a
Speaker 1: sudden be a functional franchise. I just wanted to live
Speaker 1: in the moment, beat Belichick and have a nice we
Speaker 1: don't get that exactly. It's against your rival team. And
Speaker 1: that's why, like, I that was a good night to
Speaker 1: stay off Twitter. I was on it early on and
Speaker 1: I was just like, I don't need this. I'll send
Speaker 1: a few out if it was really good, feel it
Speaker 1: it's fired. But everyone was very clever. But then Joe Bob, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it does seem funny that. And I read this weekly
Speaker 1: column by Mike Sando on the Athletic and there's always
Speaker 1: all these like theories of like why Belichick's doing this
Speaker 1: from like and this isn't fans, so I put it
Speaker 1: in a different category. It's from other coaches and GM's
Speaker 1: wise Belichicks saying this are they are they taking? Are they?
Speaker 1: Why is he making these He's so in everyone's head
Speaker 1: that they can't just accept that the team's terrible. And
Speaker 1: and and you said, like they saved their season and
Speaker 1: I saw some stuff early on Twitter, like like, you know,
Speaker 1: this could really put the nail on the was Like
Speaker 1: people have not watched the Patriots since the Chiefs and
Speaker 1: Seahawks scheme because it's not the offense. There's so much
Speaker 1: focused on Cam Newton in the running game and the
Speaker 1: in the offense. Look, they've they've don the best they can,
Speaker 1: and I think they've done that for the most part
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks and more or less a
Speaker 1: lot of the season. They're doing the best they can.
Speaker 1: I think they could be functional. But it's the thirty
Speaker 1: first strength defense in the league according to d v
Speaker 1: o A. And there without guilt, you know, there without
Speaker 1: stuff on Gilmour. And maybe they're a little better when
Speaker 1: they get him back. He's a defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 1: Of course he'll help, but that that's it. Lauren skuy like, Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe you get him back here a little better. They're terrible.
Speaker 1: I mean there there's no way they're gonna be able
Speaker 1: to survive. And and it's a different sort of terrible
Speaker 1: if you're if you're the Jets, if you want to
Speaker 1: look at like the flip side and be positive. Um,
Speaker 1: they have a left tackle it's frustrating McKay beck and
Speaker 1: keeps losing these games, and there's some taka. It was
Speaker 1: about him struggling breathing that that's a concern. Um, But
Speaker 1: you found him, You found Denzel Mims. Like you have
Speaker 1: a couple of young players on the team, show show
Speaker 1: me the young players on the Patriots front seven that
Speaker 1: they're finding. They played twenty two guys last night, most
Speaker 1: of them like ten to fifteen staffs. They're just cycling
Speaker 1: through undrafted free agents looking for anyone uh to step up.
Speaker 1: And so even that part of the season has been
Speaker 1: been a struggle for the bag. I don't think belitics
Speaker 1: playing head games. The most honest statement he made is
Speaker 1: we sold out all these years. We spent our money.
Speaker 1: We we went and got Super Bowl trophies, which is
Speaker 1: a perfectly acceptable like, but doesn't explain why they've drafted poor.
Speaker 1: Well they drafted but but but you don't come out
Speaker 1: of that twenty year journey saying pointing at all the
Speaker 1: issues the Patriots have. They they bottomed out right now
Speaker 1: to some degree. They have the fourth most cap space
Speaker 1: entering one. I think you know they're they're they're going
Speaker 1: to have a chance to rebuild. But Dan, I mean,
Speaker 1: don't forget. As a Browns fan, I've been through what
Speaker 1: you're going through. They were one in thirty one over
Speaker 1: two years, and you want to talk about shots and
Speaker 1: jabs and humor and whitcrack directed the Browns. It's been
Speaker 1: going on for twenty years. I want a playoff games
Speaker 1: since I was in since So I'm with you, I
Speaker 1: hear you, but you have to. You cannot come out
Speaker 1: of this without the number one prize. And so I
Speaker 1: think of Monday Night win would have been nice and
Speaker 1: one in fifteen. I'll get you there, but it's just
Speaker 1: not worth. It's just not worth. Daggers have a very
Speaker 1: tough schedule with you, Mark, and I'm not looking to
Speaker 1: do like a measuring stick of who has more pain
Speaker 1: or anything. But what I'm saying is, I mean, you
Speaker 1: literally write that column. And I say that humorously. But
Speaker 1: let's say and I had the Browns out of the
Speaker 1: gems um. But let's say the Browns are oh and
Speaker 1: eight and it's week nine and you're playing the Steelers.
Speaker 1: Shout out, thank you, Paul Redd and you're you're playing
Speaker 1: the Steelers and you have a chance to beat the Steelers.
Speaker 1: Are you one of the people one of the Browns
Speaker 1: dans saying I want to lose this game and then
Speaker 1: lose seven more and go oh and sixteen when they
Speaker 1: when they so they went to the one in fifteen years?
Speaker 1: Do you remember that they were in a race with
Speaker 1: the Niners for the number one pick And I was
Speaker 1: openly rooting for Cleveland to lose because there was no
Speaker 1: value or joy in those But you're doing it in
Speaker 1: early November and December is different. But my thing is,
Speaker 1: look at I am a little different than you, and
Speaker 1: I think this sort of I see your dad and
Speaker 1: you when you you want the Jets to prevail and
Speaker 1: beat the that is not how I always said that
Speaker 1: that that to to beat the Patriots. I get it.
Speaker 1: But I think if you're if you're Cleveland, you went
Speaker 1: so many years where you just had the third or
Speaker 1: fourth pick. You didn't get there with the number one pick,
Speaker 1: and they kept missing on quarterbacks. And if they're done
Speaker 1: with Sam Donald, you cannot fall for anything other than
Speaker 1: getting Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields looks interesting too. They're
Speaker 1: gonna get one of those two guys. But this is
Speaker 1: a dance. This is a dance. They're gonna have to
Speaker 1: do real nimbly with the Donald thing too. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a bit of a drama. But if I'm Donald,
Speaker 1: I want out of there. And Jets fans are in
Speaker 1: a tough place because it's not easy. It's not easy
Speaker 1: or organic to root for football. The life force goes
Speaker 1: out when you're when you're having the route for your
Speaker 1: team to lose life Greg Greg like, life is too short,
Speaker 1: but you have you, but you have no idea why
Speaker 1: when I was going through sure as an adult, but
Speaker 1: during the most emotional time I ever was as a fan,
Speaker 1: Like my favorite season was Dick McPherson going six and
Speaker 1: ten because that was like the most fun they were
Speaker 1: for about a seven year period, And that's what I
Speaker 1: was like, more more like living and dying and disappointed
Speaker 1: that the next day. All I mean is like the
Speaker 1: the the result of last night doesn't guarantee the pick.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like Dan said, you just want to
Speaker 1: have it. It's kind of like how I viewed that
Speaker 1: game as a Paths fan, Like on one sense, it's
Speaker 1: it's disarming to have such low stakes, like to be
Speaker 1: a Patriots fan, like there felt like there was no
Speaker 1: steaks to that game. Really, I even started thinking, you know,
Speaker 1: you start rationalizing. It was like, well, if you ever
Speaker 1: got to lose the Jets, like this is the season
Speaker 1: to do it. But it's still fun to just watch
Speaker 1: your team win. Like that's really all I'm looking for.
Speaker 1: I have to just like you, Mark, I have two
Speaker 1: young boys at home. It's it's Monday night game, and
Speaker 1: it would have been nice to have them sitting on
Speaker 1: the couch and enjoy Jets win like that. That's part
Speaker 1: from me, part of the fan experience, even if like
Speaker 1: the smarter fans out there telling me, and again not
Speaker 1: a shot at you, but this is more what was
Speaker 1: out there telling me, You're an idiot for wanting your
Speaker 1: team to win because you're gonna get Trevor Lawrence and
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl once you have that set. None
Speaker 1: of that's guaranteed. I've been following this team in the
Speaker 1: spot long enough that like nothing's promised, So I just
Speaker 1: wanted that win. But maybe it does. Maybe it is.
Speaker 1: Maybe this is the biggest moment Jets history. It could be.
Speaker 1: Who knows. The one last thing. I mean, there's another
Speaker 1: you know narrative here, and there's there's a lot of
Speaker 1: season left. Donald comes back. These wide receivers are healthy,
Speaker 1: Donald could play four or five really good games, they
Speaker 1: fall out of the mix. And that's not the worst
Speaker 1: situation either, if you believe in Sam Donald. I mean,
Speaker 1: I feel like the weird thing is you're pushing what
Speaker 1: was and could still be a franchise quarterback alf the door,
Speaker 1: and it's like, that's you don't have nobody. You have
Speaker 1: Sam Donald, who four months ago everyone was super excited about.
Speaker 1: And I was watching that game and thinking, you know,
Speaker 1: they they made the game plan for Donald on some level.
Speaker 1: They did a good head fake, making the Patriots think
Speaker 1: all these zero blitz is and Joe Flacco spinning it,
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking they would be better off with Darnald
Speaker 1: out there. I wouldn't have much faith in Donald having
Speaker 1: a night that. Like, I mean, they we knew Donald
Speaker 1: was We knew Donald wasn't playing on Friday, so Saturday
Speaker 1: weird if they were game planning for him. Still, But
Speaker 1: all good points, and I think you're right, Mark, With Perriman,
Speaker 1: Mims and Crowder there, that's actually pretty solid wide receiver group.
Speaker 1: And now that we've seen Flacco be able to move
Speaker 1: the ball, now Donald assuming comes back after the bye healthy.
Speaker 1: Now you get here, kids, seven weeks shows that you
Speaker 1: can deliver those type of games, and if you can't,
Speaker 1: we're moving on. So anyway, there you go. Good job, Greg,
Speaker 1: Congratulations on another Patriots win over the Jets. All right,
Speaker 1: before we get to bow Wolf to talk the Eagles
Speaker 1: and Carson Wentz, let's look ahead to Week ten and
Speaker 1: a big matchup in the a f C South. Thursday
Speaker 1: Night football opens with a really really solid game here,
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts at Tennessee Titans, first place in the a
Speaker 1: f C South at Steak in this one. The Colts
Speaker 1: coming off, um, you know, a loss to the Ravens
Speaker 1: where the offense did not look very good at all.
Speaker 1: The Titans defense got back on track against the Bears.
Speaker 1: But can you trust any judgment day on a defense
Speaker 1: when they're playing the Bears. I don't know. Uh, this
Speaker 1: is gonna be a good game on a short week,
Speaker 1: tough challenge for both teams in the middle of November. Mark,
Speaker 1: what are you thinking here? Well? I think it's you know,
Speaker 1: we we always get into these strength on strength type scenarios,
Speaker 1: but I like the idea of the Cults defense versus
Speaker 1: a really tough Titans offense that's not quite been itself
Speaker 1: of late, and and I kind of was trying to
Speaker 1: wonder why what might have happened there a little bit.
Speaker 1: I do think that there's a little bit of a
Speaker 1: drop off since they lost Taylor Luan, And I know
Speaker 1: that like ty Simburlow's come in there and done, um
Speaker 1: a pretty good job. They're they're their line is fine,
Speaker 1: but you're playing a Cults defense that absolutely nullified the
Speaker 1: Ravens in the first half of that game and really
Speaker 1: almost you know, throughout until the Ravens came to life
Speaker 1: and in the in the midway through this third quarter,
Speaker 1: but fifty five yards at the half. I think with
Speaker 1: Darius Leonard in there, it's such a difference maker. They
Speaker 1: they erase run games. So I want to see Titans,
Speaker 1: you know, Derrick Henry on the ground versus Cults defense
Speaker 1: that basically says, we're going to you know what we're
Speaker 1: gonna do. We're gonna take you away on the ground
Speaker 1: and then you have to survive through the air. And
Speaker 1: I mean they to me that's and that this is
Speaker 1: one of the better Thursday Night games in a while,
Speaker 1: because these two teams know each other so well too.
Speaker 1: In the end, it it's so important for this division.
Speaker 1: You know, neither of these teams I would expect to
Speaker 1: get a one seed, but it's still is a big
Speaker 1: advantage to win your division, get a home game in
Speaker 1: the first round of the playoffs. Uh Ravels struggled, you
Speaker 1: know what, the Colts and one in three against them
Speaker 1: lost the Jacobi Brissett at point. I do remember there
Speaker 1: was like a Thursday night whitewash where Mariota got hurt
Speaker 1: in the and Andrew Luck just like creamed him. That
Speaker 1: feels like five years ago. That was like, not that lie,
Speaker 1: it was about it was less than two years ago.
Speaker 1: So I think the Colts match up really well, not
Speaker 1: just like because it's a coaching matchup, because it just
Speaker 1: feels like this is a team Rivers can get do
Speaker 1: his thing against a team that's not gonna rush the
Speaker 1: pastor that well that he can move the ball uh
Speaker 1: slowly down the field. And you mentioned the Colts, you
Speaker 1: know defense, their defensive line so deep, So if you
Speaker 1: haven't watched them a ton, they just have like six
Speaker 1: or seven guys that can make plays. Mohammed Dniko, Autrey Buckner, Houston.
Speaker 1: They kind of come in waves. And this Titans offensive line.
Speaker 1: You said it, Mark, that's what struck me the last
Speaker 1: few weeks. They're not playing that well. It's they're really
Speaker 1: required Tannahill to play at a really high level. He is.
Speaker 1: He's definitely the better quarterback in this game. But I
Speaker 1: kind of think it sets up on both sides fairly
Speaker 1: well for the Colts. There. It's not a defense I
Speaker 1: think that's gonna trouble Rivers nearly as much as as most. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I see the Colts is ultimately Lee and the big
Speaker 1: picture pretenders when you're looking at who are the true
Speaker 1: um A f C Super Bowl contenders. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, they're good enough and their defense is strong enough,
Speaker 1: and when Rivers gets time, he can still do things
Speaker 1: that they could beat teams like the Titans and lesser
Speaker 1: than type team. So I think this is a a
Speaker 1: good matchup for Indianapolis, and it's a lot of it
Speaker 1: goes back to the pass rush, because I think the
Speaker 1: teams with the good pass rushes are gonna give the
Speaker 1: Cults hell. They don't run the ball too well and
Speaker 1: the quarterback can't move and that's just asking a lot
Speaker 1: for this version of the Colts. So Vic Beasley out
Speaker 1: the door. Obviously, they still get out of here, take
Speaker 1: our money and leave. Jenevan Clowney missed Week nine. I
Speaker 1: think he's questionable for this game. They need him to
Speaker 1: get back and and make an impact as a pass rusher. UM.
Speaker 1: I like the Titans in this Gangs. I think they're
Speaker 1: a better a better team ultimately and their home UM.
Speaker 1: So that's where I'm going with this game. I think
Speaker 1: this is a Titans win. I think they take control
Speaker 1: and I think they all really can win the division
Speaker 1: going away. But I'm given the Cults more than a
Speaker 1: fighting chance here. I would take the Titans too. I
Speaker 1: think that they you know, they were a pr disaster
Speaker 1: with the Corona business, but they were pretty resilient with
Speaker 1: how they handled that. The one thing you mentioned that
Speaker 1: with Vic Beasley, I think it's they would have been
Speaker 1: better served by a more successful offseason. The Vic Beasley
Speaker 1: thing happened. Clowney signing is not completely worked out for them,
Speaker 1: and I was looking at what's been going on with
Speaker 1: their first round pick, Isaiah Wilson, who they wanted to
Speaker 1: come in and be a part of that line that
Speaker 1: he would have stepped in and helped with Taylor the
Speaker 1: one out and I was reading an athletic article where
Speaker 1: a source said he has he is a disaster someone.
Speaker 1: They called him lazy and useless. He's been he said
Speaker 1: Isaiah Wilson the last week they started him last week.
Speaker 1: I don't think he made it through the whole game though.
Speaker 1: He's had two exposures to Corona had y in September,
Speaker 1: and he he left a couple of weeks ago, just
Speaker 1: missed practice two days in a row with a headache,
Speaker 1: and basically Rabel was like, I can't work with these
Speaker 1: guys who practice on Fridays. So, I mean, that's been
Speaker 1: a hid and missed so far. Right, if he that's
Speaker 1: one of those things. If he was on like a
Speaker 1: major team in a major market like that would be
Speaker 1: a huge story. But if you Tennessee is like the
Speaker 1: place where he can be a first round pick and
Speaker 1: have like a nightmare and no one pays attention. I
Speaker 1: want to see the Colts getting on him, hims the
Speaker 1: ball a little bit more. I've seen enough of Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 1: I mean, hind says juice if you need to run
Speaker 1: it up the middle post Jordan Wilkins, and they're just
Speaker 1: a better offense when when they have a little more
Speaker 1: and am hindes t Y Hilton looks like he will
Speaker 1: return for this game, which that does help them out.
Speaker 1: And we do want before we bring on one of
Speaker 1: Philadelphia's shining suns, bo Wolf. Actually don't know if post
Speaker 1: from Philadelphia. Colleen is and uh, I would like to
Speaker 1: see her. You know what might be the last time
Speaker 1: we get it. Let's get Philip Rivers with the Bolo
Speaker 1: tie uh for the postgame show. I think the Times
Speaker 1: a win, but I'd be very cool with seeing Rivers
Speaker 1: mixing and up with the t NF crew and Connie
Speaker 1: and yes, now without for there Ado. First, they're gonna
Speaker 1: figure out where the hell bo bows from. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I took a guess there. It's not. I mean, I
Speaker 1: live in Los Angeles and I've worked for the NFL.
Speaker 1: I'm not from here. What an assumption. Let's welcome bow
Speaker 1: Wolf to the show from the athletic who covers. He
Speaker 1: covers the Eagles and the NFL. There he is. Bow
Speaker 1: Let's first of all, let's you know what, I can
Speaker 1: almost tell by your background that you are from Philadelphia?
Speaker 1: Yes or no? Uh no? Actually and and Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I would like to tell you that, uh, this background
Speaker 1: is the result of me not having a chance to
Speaker 1: scramble after you know, cleaning up spit up from my
Speaker 1: nine day old before the show started. This is just
Speaker 1: our Birds with Friends background. Thank you. The truth is Dan,
Speaker 1: I'm from I'm from Westchester and once upon a time
Speaker 1: we shared pages in the Journal News. WHOA how about that?
Speaker 1: So there you go. I think, well, I think I
Speaker 1: sent this to uh, you know, Greg. A couple of
Speaker 1: years ago. I was researching a story on an old
Speaker 1: high school nemesis and there it was Dan hansis painting
Speaker 1: the picture of some picture on it and on the
Speaker 1: other side of the county, uh you know, his his
Speaker 1: actions during the game or something like that. It was
Speaker 1: very it was very heated. I covered more on the
Speaker 1: Rockland County side, which was on the other side of
Speaker 1: the tapan Zee Bridge. Rest in Peace. I covered the
Speaker 1: Rockland County baseball beat. Ian Rappaport uh covered the west
Speaker 1: Chester County beat, and we would meet up at the
Speaker 1: sectionals up north and and get into some good times.
Speaker 1: But Bo is a Westchester dude. All right, that's been learned.
Speaker 1: But what we really want to talk about bow here
Speaker 1: is the Eagles and more specifically, and I brought this
Speaker 1: up with the guys last week. I'm a Carson Wentz fan.
Speaker 1: I've always liked this game, and obviously in two thousand
Speaker 1: seventeen he damn near won the m v P before
Speaker 1: he blew out his knee. Uh. And now we're here
Speaker 1: at a crossroads in his career. So I want to
Speaker 1: talk about that. And I know your colleague sheel capaddada capatia, damn.
Speaker 1: I knew I was gonna fail that wrong when he
Speaker 1: wrote a piece that went up today about whence his
Speaker 1: decline with a whole bunch of metrics, digging into the
Speaker 1: whole thing. Where where do you come down on this?
Speaker 1: What has happened to wins? And can he be fixed
Speaker 1: before the season is through? Well? I think that's the question,
Speaker 1: you know, the Eagles have to answer, and there's no
Speaker 1: doubt about it. You know, if you read that that
Speaker 1: story by Shila, which everybody who's interested should um, the
Speaker 1: decline has been very real and precipitous since two thousand seventeen.
Speaker 1: You know, this year he is arguably the worst full
Speaker 1: time starting quarterback in the NFL. UM he has been
Speaker 1: I mean, that's it's hard to say that, but it's true.
Speaker 1: I mean, you watch that game. He was barely out
Speaker 1: playing Bend Nucci a couple of weeks ago. So, um,
Speaker 1: Benny Denuche as we call him um, So, I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: he is he has been. Uh. He has had fumbling
Speaker 1: issues since the beginning of his career and that is
Speaker 1: the thing that he has been asked to work on
Speaker 1: and asked to work on and really has never fixed
Speaker 1: it and that has continued to rear its ugly head.
Speaker 1: But the interceptions, um, is a thing that he has
Speaker 1: been pretty low and interception rate in the past, but
Speaker 1: there was reason to believe coming into this season that
Speaker 1: that was going to regress, and it has regressed in
Speaker 1: a big way. Uh. He has given away the ball
Speaker 1: more than any other quarterback. But he's also not really
Speaker 1: you know, creating the big plays. When he's not turning
Speaker 1: the ball over, he's taking sacks. He's been inaccurate, and
Speaker 1: you know, it's one of those things where you have
Speaker 1: to try to find out how much is Wentz, how
Speaker 1: much is the supporting cast, how much is the team
Speaker 1: they've put around him. Everybody certainly shares a part of it.
Speaker 1: But you know when you draft a quarterback in the
Speaker 1: second round and you're starting quarterback is playing this badly? Uh,
Speaker 1: it's the recipe for you know, a lot of discussion. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I I was taken in that article. You know how
Speaker 1: a little excuse making Shield made because the injuries have
Speaker 1: been there. But you know, the performance has come down,
Speaker 1: but the injuries have been kind of a constant. So
Speaker 1: the part that uh that gets me as is he
Speaker 1: less athletic than he used to be. And uh, because
Speaker 1: that's important, Like and I think watching them you sort
Speaker 1: of forget what he looked like in how he would
Speaker 1: have made the rush. He's still athletic, um, but maybe
Speaker 1: not like the sudden sort of pocket movements and everything. Uh,
Speaker 1: not as accurate. I've always thought he wasn't that accurate,
Speaker 1: But just like the numbers say, he's not as accurate.
Speaker 1: Now now I'm thinking, though I didn't know you only
Speaker 1: had a kid nine days ago. Both congrats, Thank you
Speaker 1: the way. So did we make you know? You do
Speaker 1: Birds with Friends, a podcast about the Eagles with Shield
Speaker 1: and Zephyr. He drops a big hammer, you know, a
Speaker 1: lead story on the athletic today. You just had a kid,
Speaker 1: did we make a mistake having you on the show. Well, no,
Speaker 1: but I'm sure that we're going to talk about this
Speaker 1: on Birds of Friends and and he's gonna have a
Speaker 1: lot to say. So yeah, he's he's been itching to
Speaker 1: come on. I'm sure. I I asked you, Uh, you're
Speaker 1: responsibly when I asked you on the show. Was really
Speaker 1: funny to me. You just thought you were surprised that
Speaker 1: we didn't have better things to talk about. Well, I
Speaker 1: said this on our on our last episode. You know,
Speaker 1: it's it's date two with the newborn. Were in the
Speaker 1: hospital and they're and they're telling us, you know, this
Speaker 1: is gonna be a tough night. The baby is still
Speaker 1: thinking it's in the womb and now it's just figuring
Speaker 1: out it's not. So it's gonna be up all night.
Speaker 1: She's gonna be all all night. And it's Sunday night
Speaker 1: football the Cowboys. And by the time the Eagles have
Speaker 1: their second ridiculous turnover, she's fast asleep. They put her
Speaker 1: to sleep. So that's how boring the singles team has been. Um.
Speaker 1: But my response was, well, I always overrate the Eagles
Speaker 1: that I always have high hopes for them. Um. And
Speaker 1: you said they well they've overrated them too. I want
Speaker 1: I kind of want you to unpack that because I
Speaker 1: think there is something too that that the Eagles always
Speaker 1: think and I think and some some of the people
Speaker 1: covering the team, I always think they're like this jugger
Speaker 1: not roster waiting to come. And the reality is their
Speaker 1: five with with Wentz since the Super Bowl. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I think it's sort of endemic of you know what
Speaker 1: got them to the super Bowl, and that was pushing
Speaker 1: Chips in and that is how he Roseman's m O.
Speaker 1: He does it, you know, every year, he does it
Speaker 1: at the trade deadline, he does it in the off season.
Speaker 1: But uh, this time has sort of always been coming.
Speaker 1: With the way this roster has been built. They keep
Speaker 1: extending the older players. You know, you look at the
Speaker 1: offensive line. They've got these four offensive linemen locked up
Speaker 1: over the edge of thirty. You know, it's you can't
Speaker 1: really say it's bad luck that so they've they've suffered
Speaker 1: so many injuries there and they entered this offseason, um
Speaker 1: coming off two straight years of having a pretty mediocre
Speaker 1: offense and a defense that was injured a lot. But
Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz was able to sort of you know, make
Speaker 1: them mediocre middle of the road. And what they did
Speaker 1: this offseason was they decided, we're gonna leave the offense
Speaker 1: as is. We're gonna, you know, use our big resources
Speaker 1: to sign Javon Hargrave to you know, fourteen million dollar
Speaker 1: deal and trade and signed Darius Slay and they did
Speaker 1: nothing veteran wise on the offensive side of the ball.
Speaker 1: All they did was draft Jalen Reagor in the first round,
Speaker 1: draft a backup quarterback in the second, and a linebacker
Speaker 1: in the third who hasn't even been been able to
Speaker 1: get on the field. And guess what, Like, the offense
Speaker 1: has not been much better, it's obviously been much worse.
Speaker 1: They they sort of had found gold in Travis Fulgum,
Speaker 1: who has been you know, the one or two bright
Speaker 1: spots of the season. And the defense they're not getting
Speaker 1: what they paid for. I mean, Javon Hargrave has been
Speaker 1: bad and Darius Slay has been great. And guess what.
Speaker 1: The defense has gone from twelfth and d v O
Speaker 1: A to fourteenth in d v L A. So has
Speaker 1: not made a big difference. Um. And you know they
Speaker 1: have they have this core that they have tried to
Speaker 1: keep together and it was always going to come to
Speaker 1: a point where those guys were gonna start declining. And
Speaker 1: right now, you know they've got an old, mediocre, expensive
Speaker 1: roster and next year that you do not have a
Speaker 1: lot of flexibility. So you know, thank god for the
Speaker 1: NFC East, but you know, big picture, league wide, it's
Speaker 1: it's not they're not in good ship, um, And I'm
Speaker 1: left with questions. And there's been changes with the coaching staff.
Speaker 1: And it was chic to label the departure of Frank
Speaker 1: Reich as a huge loss for Wentz. But I see
Speaker 1: a player that you know, we we see him declining
Speaker 1: under pressure. The floor for Carson Wentz seems to be changing.
Speaker 1: And I don't see a quarterback and a head coach
Speaker 1: or a quarterback in a scheme that trust each other
Speaker 1: right now. And it just seems to me that two
Speaker 1: thousand seventeen almost appears as a mirrage to some degree,
Speaker 1: and that the real Carson Wentz, you know, every quarterbacks
Speaker 1: dealing with injuries to some degree. And I saw that
Speaker 1: the Eagles lying in that article goal is still essentially
Speaker 1: eighth top ten and in past protection win rate, and
Speaker 1: so it's not just you know, the broken pieces around him.
Speaker 1: Do you see Carson Wentz um with a lack of
Speaker 1: trust in the environments and maybe the coaching staff, because
Speaker 1: when you ask Doug Peterson about Carson wentz a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, he seemed also baffled. So I it
Speaker 1: feels very murky. I think there is definitely something to
Speaker 1: that um and you talk about you know, first of all,
Speaker 1: the offensive line. This is gonna be this game. Probably
Speaker 1: their eight different starting offensive line in nine games, which
Speaker 1: is insane. But Jeff Stiland has has held them up
Speaker 1: to be sort of a top ten offensive line performance wise.
Speaker 1: And I think too, to Gregg's point before, it's not
Speaker 1: just the athleticism, it's it's the pocket awareness and you know,
Speaker 1: the pocket comfortability that has really seemed to dissipate. Even
Speaker 1: as a rookie, he seemed comfortable in the pocket to
Speaker 1: to maneuver away from things, and now you know he's
Speaker 1: sort of fleeing at the first sign of trouble um
Speaker 1: when there is when there are opportunities for him to
Speaker 1: step up in the pocket. Um. And you know, to
Speaker 1: the point of of all these voices in his head,
Speaker 1: this offense, you know, they didn't add people to the
Speaker 1: roster on offense this offseason, but they added a lot
Speaker 1: of coaches. They added rich S Gangarrello, who had worked
Speaker 1: with Kyle Shanahan, and brought back Marty morning Wag. And
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's sort of a question, you know,
Speaker 1: who is the person in Carson Wentz his ear? Is
Speaker 1: it Doug Peterson? Is it Morning Wig? Is it's Gangarrello?
Speaker 1: Is it Press Taylor? Who's you know, the the passing
Speaker 1: game coordinator and also the quarterbacks coach. He's getting all
Speaker 1: these different pieces of advice, and it does not seem
Speaker 1: that that he is getting better in any appreciable way.
Speaker 1: He's you know, he is declining. All right, before we
Speaker 1: let you go bout two quick questions. Number one, what
Speaker 1: is the Eagles final record by New Year's Day? I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say they. I'm gonna say they win the division
Speaker 1: at six nine and one. So you've got, you know,
Speaker 1: a city that has celebrated a championship a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago and was celebrating, you know, saving democracy this
Speaker 1: weekend is not going to be greasing down the polls
Speaker 1: for six nine and one. And okay, there you go.
Speaker 1: So that's history, and speaking of history and democrats, the
Speaker 1: I saw on Twitter that you did visit. You made
Speaker 1: the pilgrimage to four seasons total landscaping, and I believe
Speaker 1: the North end of Philadelphia your takeaways. I gotta tell
Speaker 1: you this was This was Sunday and my other son,
Speaker 1: or my only son, my older child. You know, he's
Speaker 1: he's only napping in the car right now. So I
Speaker 1: decided him and I would take a little drive up
Speaker 1: to northeast Philly. And it's it's the pictures don't even
Speaker 1: do it justice. I mean, it is just a barren
Speaker 1: waste land of an area right next to the sex
Speaker 1: shop and across the street from the crematorium. And they
Speaker 1: were now and then a couple of people, uh you know,
Speaker 1: pulling out front to take their self eas in front.
Speaker 1: So did you visit either of the Phildelphia lamar? Did
Speaker 1: you visit either of those two auxiliary places in business
Speaker 1: while you were you were there? I did not, because
Speaker 1: Casey had just fallen asleep in the cart. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think that's illegal at least for one of them.
Speaker 1: All right, bow Wolf follow him on Twitter. Bow underscore Wolf,
Speaker 1: and congratulations on the addition to the family. We all
Speaker 1: know the feeling and there's not a better one in
Speaker 1: the world. Thank you guys very much the first time,
Speaker 1: long time, so so happy to be here. Beautiful both,
Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. There, he goes from Westchester County,
Speaker 1: New York. Wow, it's good when the Lower Hudson Valley
Speaker 1: represents in a national sense. Were you there at the
Speaker 1: same time. I'm gonna I didn't want to fall too
Speaker 1: far far down the Lower Hudson Valley wormhole. I'm going
Speaker 1: to connect with bo off Air to find out if
Speaker 1: we were together. Like it's like a would think it
Speaker 1: was Bernstein's crossing in the night. I mean, you could
Speaker 1: have who knows what you could have accomplished together as
Speaker 1: a Duo's what's up breaking you said? You said, um
Speaker 1: one of us the legal Are you saying a sex
Speaker 1: shop is illegal or going to a creama bringing a
Speaker 1: child into I don't think you could take a child
Speaker 1: inside a sex shop, But if they're nine days old, no, no,
Speaker 1: that would do that. But either way, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like they do curbside because like, if the
Speaker 1: child is younger than two weeks old, you could take
Speaker 1: them anywhere in the world than it works. I take
Speaker 1: my kids to the crematorium all the time. It's just
Speaker 1: kind of gives you an appreciation of life. It's not
Speaker 1: gonna last forever. Enjoy it right now, bro, All right,
Speaker 1: before we go, I put out a call on Twitter
Speaker 1: for the mailbag, like to check in with all those
Speaker 1: listeners that we love. We just had as we talked
Speaker 1: about at the top of the Sunday show, mark what
Speaker 1: a reminder of how lucky we are with the hostag
Speaker 1: hashtag Godzilla phenomenon, where we asked the listeners deep into
Speaker 1: our Thursday recap podcast of Packers Niners to send us
Speaker 1: a nod if you made it to the end of
Speaker 1: the fifteen minutes. Tens of thousands, maybe even hundreds of
Speaker 1: thousands of replies getting them millions. Even so, what better
Speaker 1: way to thank the fans than involving them and including
Speaker 1: them in today's show. So I'm gonna go through a
Speaker 1: couple of a few questions before we take about here
Speaker 1: we go. Starting right here are from three naive algorithms
Speaker 1: in a trench coat, Kitty at Underscore Tripod, optimistic Miami
Speaker 1: fan here looking at the last few games. For the
Speaker 1: first time in eons, it feels like we don't have
Speaker 1: any substantial holes in the team outside of running back.
Speaker 1: I actually think we might be able to draft the
Speaker 1: strongest player available with every pick in Do you guys agree?
Speaker 1: Remember that, in addition to all the sunny optimism around
Speaker 1: the Dolphins right now, they also have the first and
Speaker 1: second round picks of the Texans, who are one of
Speaker 1: the worst teams in the league this season. What do
Speaker 1: you think right um the framing of the question, I
Speaker 1: have a problem with that they have no major holes,
Speaker 1: so they can draft where wherever they want. I mean,
Speaker 1: I love the way the Dolphins are coached and and
Speaker 1: so far in a tiny sample side, they love their quarterback.
Speaker 1: That's like the most two important things you can have.
Speaker 1: I would not put them in the top twenty most
Speaker 1: talented teams in the NFL. I think they could use
Speaker 1: help almost everywhere up for maybe the secondary. Um so, so, yeah,
Speaker 1: they they still need to be adding more like blue
Speaker 1: chip players. I think Floris is shown though, like if
Speaker 1: you get some good players will know what to do
Speaker 1: with them and have them cohesive. I'll give you a
Speaker 1: little bit of optimism. We were just asked to make
Speaker 1: our mid season picks for NFL dot Com. The huge
Speaker 1: event in our lives and the lives of readers. Um,
Speaker 1: but I picked you Miami to go to the super
Speaker 1: Bowl in a rematch with Arizona Chaos. And I'm telling
Speaker 1: you something. This Miami team reminds me of the two
Speaker 1: thousand and one Patriots will formed for after eight games.
Speaker 1: They're coached in a similar way. You've got a lot
Speaker 1: of guys that were no namers six months ago contributing.
Speaker 1: So listen, super Bowl is rich. But I really like
Speaker 1: the way the team uh is composed. I think that
Speaker 1: their future is so bright out there. I didn't think
Speaker 1: that that this would even happen this year. Chris Greer
Speaker 1: clearly planned for what's gonna happen next year with all
Speaker 1: the picks. So there is we know, you know, Handsome
Speaker 1: Hankers a Dolphins fan. My brother is a Dolphins fan.
Speaker 1: They've had nothing to cheer for for so long. This
Speaker 1: is legit home being planted right now. It is a
Speaker 1: different type of situation. It's a problem for the Patriots
Speaker 1: that Florist is in this division. I really do think so.
Speaker 1: I think the point um one of the analysts made
Speaker 1: last night that like Flacco was ready because you know,
Speaker 1: the Dolphins basically wanted to do the same thing that
Speaker 1: the Patriots want to do like two weeks before, but
Speaker 1: they're better at it. Like that's a problem for the Patriots,
Speaker 1: that they are the most patriots looking team of any
Speaker 1: of the Patriots acolytes that I've seen, good and bad
Speaker 1: and uh and Mark, We've been working for this company
Speaker 1: for ten or eleven years now, and you get it.
Speaker 1: You get how the metrics works. You get how headline
Speaker 1: writing writing works. If you go out on a limb
Speaker 1: and one of those prediction articles and say, Dolphins to
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Mark Sessler is getting the pop on
Speaker 1: the social media handles. You might even get the headline
Speaker 1: is no bigger pop than you know, putting something on
Speaker 1: NFL dot com. In this industry right now, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just it's it's gonna seal the future. Listen, I
Speaker 1: picked Dallas in August. That looks like a trash bag pick.
Speaker 1: So it's like, why little wrong? You can't always go
Speaker 1: chalk with this hate the two more easan ones. It feels, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I tried to. I tried to keep everything the same
Speaker 1: unless it's totally impossible, because it just feels like it's
Speaker 1: it's like what happened. Am I right still with my
Speaker 1: original pick if it you know, if I change it now?
Speaker 1: I got the Stealers Super Bowl over the Saints, so
Speaker 1: I'm right good? What Adam rank and I responded to
Speaker 1: this and no one else I did? I did it
Speaker 1: Derek Carr, Um, David Carr rather did respond, and I
Speaker 1: did want to point out with twenty eight people voted
Speaker 1: who's gonna win the m v P. Fourteen predicted Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: thirteen predicted Patrick Mahomes, including me. No one I predicted
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, which you know it's crazy because I think
Speaker 1: he might be my pick right now. Um. One person
Speaker 1: picked um Derek Carr as the m v P. That
Speaker 1: was David Carr, his brother. There you go, yeah, Van Hansas,
Speaker 1: My brother was in the NFL. I do the same thing,
Speaker 1: all right, Josh Alstrom, Right, steer Dan. If the Broncos
Speaker 1: traded for Sam Donald as a backup, he says, and
Speaker 1: he became a stud stud how would that make you feel?
Speaker 1: I know you're a notorious Broncos hater. I am not
Speaker 1: a Broncos hater. I like to give it to John
Speaker 1: Elway a little bit, because that guy has been on
Speaker 1: top of the world, this whole life, and somebody's got
Speaker 1: to take him down a peg. But yes, it would
Speaker 1: be very wise for a team to invest in Sam
Speaker 1: Donald to give him a shot, including the Broncos, who,
Speaker 1: like we said, entering this year, need more options than
Speaker 1: Drew Luck Drew Lock. Robert rich writes. Mark mentioned that
Speaker 1: the first football card he ever owned was a Richard
Speaker 1: Todd that's another former Jet as a football card junkie.
Speaker 1: I'm intrigued what years slash brands of football cards did
Speaker 1: Slash does he collect? Did he experience the joys of
Speaker 1: Process three? I was in on Process Process I. I literally, um,
Speaker 1: I made a huge mistake in my twenties because I
Speaker 1: had collected the entire first year of Process. Now Proceeds
Speaker 1: got really hot and like it was the kind of
Speaker 1: brought football cards back into the zeitgeist a bit. And
Speaker 1: because here's what they do. They had announcer cards. I'd
Speaker 1: I would well, I had a Bob Costas Proceeded card
Speaker 1: in my wallet for like all four years of high school.
Speaker 1: They kept re they kept reissuing like new segments of
Speaker 1: the of the collection. It was like suddenly, it's like
Speaker 1: eighteen stadium cards, and so like I kept, I had
Speaker 1: a thick binder. I finally got the entire first year,
Speaker 1: not the second, but the first year. And then, for
Speaker 1: some reason, UM met these two kids at a wedding
Speaker 1: in my twenties, these young boys, and they love football,
Speaker 1: and I decided to give them the entire binder. I
Speaker 1: drove to the house. They gave a wet well, I know,
Speaker 1: I am saying it was hideously John moved because I
Speaker 1: didn't the fact that I could have given them to
Speaker 1: my own children, like down the road, so very dumb moved. I. Um,
Speaker 1: what the card I would really love is the two
Speaker 1: thousand twelve Tops edition of Bob this from the Olympics
Speaker 1: when he had pink eye. That's the card that I've
Speaker 1: always wanted and coveted. Did you ever break did you
Speaker 1: ever break out that your card? Like during a date
Speaker 1: in high school? Just like show show the girl, Hey,
Speaker 1: I want to show you my beating up Bob cost
Speaker 1: this trading card. And if I were going on a
Speaker 1: lot of dates in high school, I probably wouldn't have
Speaker 1: been worried about that to begin with. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: you know, no, you know this isn't gonna happen for
Speaker 1: another ten years or so. But one day this guy
Speaker 1: is gonna soapbox about gun control during halftime of a
Speaker 1: football game. You know what, the two of you that
Speaker 1: you lack the key ingredient of soul within you. If
Speaker 1: you feel this way about a broadcaster who you're, you're
Speaker 1: it's your gut. You guys are gonna get old too,
Speaker 1: And there there's gonna be viewers that the fifty eight
Speaker 1: or sixty year old version of you guys, they won't
Speaker 1: remember the youthful zeal uh packed you know, joy, humorous
Speaker 1: young versions. But when when we get that age, just
Speaker 1: podcast is gonna be terrible moving on right, uh And
Speaker 1: if you're an older listener, that doesn't mean everyone is
Speaker 1: bad when they get late in their fifties and sixties.
Speaker 1: There's just uh taking the qbs out of the conversation.
Speaker 1: Who has been your favorite rookie to watch this season? Greg?
Speaker 1: I hate these open ended questions are tough. Off the
Speaker 1: top of my head, just justin Jefferson is the one
Speaker 1: that comes to mind quickly. I really think if he
Speaker 1: was on another team that was winning games, people, Yeah, statistically,
Speaker 1: he's having one of the best seasons of rookie's ever had,
Speaker 1: and he just looks like he's the He is a
Speaker 1: number one receiver as a rookie. Do not see that
Speaker 1: too often? And I think it's a weird year because
Speaker 1: I like he comes to mind, but very few others do.
Speaker 1: I do. I do like the fact that, um, I
Speaker 1: ticketed Patrick Queen for Rookie of Defensive Rookie of the
Speaker 1: Year and he's he's in the race. Um, there's no
Speaker 1: good there's no dominant defensive a lot of offensive play.
Speaker 1: There's a ton of receivers are doing well, but we're
Speaker 1: but we're getting one of the great rookie quarterback classes
Speaker 1: of all time, So I don't really care. Um McKay
Speaker 1: Beckton's my pick for obvious reasons. It's just fun hitting
Speaker 1: on the left tackle and then seeing him bully star players.
Speaker 1: Hopefully he can stay healthy next massive. You know, my hea,
Speaker 1: you could fit all three of us inside of him.
Speaker 1: Andrew Lewis asks have any of the heroes picked up
Speaker 1: any new hobbies during COVID times? Smart No, they've been reduced.
Speaker 1: Um I don't. I mean, I probably am reading more,
Speaker 1: but that's not a new hobby. It's just something I
Speaker 1: stopped doing. But like, no, I haven't like picked up
Speaker 1: like salsa dancing or like, hey, let's have a let's
Speaker 1: you know, have a really cool like husband and wife
Speaker 1: hobby to do together while the kids are you know,
Speaker 1: awake fourteen fifteen hours a day screaming no our weekly
Speaker 1: I do like a weekly sort of beach you know
Speaker 1: date with you know, my kids, and sometimes we meet
Speaker 1: up with a friend. That's about it. I don't know
Speaker 1: if I've added a hobby, but that includes Walker, my
Speaker 1: son's obsession, which is we like role play football games
Speaker 1: where I'm he wants to be all time cornerback and
Speaker 1: just break up passes and tackle, which I appreciate. I'm
Speaker 1: good and uh he you know, he like he can
Speaker 1: cancox various scenarios. Is first down, third down, you know,
Speaker 1: keeps the score. He always has to win. But that
Speaker 1: that's my hobby. Do that an hour or two week.
Speaker 1: I tape the Power Ranking Show with Money on Tuesday mornings,
Speaker 1: and Matt Money Smith, who's a renaissance man and really
Speaker 1: seems to be successful on anything he sets his mind to. Recently,
Speaker 1: and I guess the last few years, picked up surfing
Speaker 1: and he's out there every morning and he's got the
Speaker 1: wet suit and it doesn't matter. I was forty five
Speaker 1: degrees today this morning. He's out there in the water
Speaker 1: and he's telling me how it's the only place you know,
Speaker 1: you know the way surfers are, it's the only place
Speaker 1: where the world really makes sense and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: And he's saying he takes his kids out there and
Speaker 1: they have amazing bonding moments. And I was really jealous
Speaker 1: because I don't think that's ever gonna be my thing.
Speaker 1: But I also was thinking, like, I'm forty and um,
Speaker 1: I don't think I should be playing like Madden and
Speaker 1: m VP Baseball on the PS four for the rest
Speaker 1: of my life. I probably have hit the moment in
Speaker 1: my life where it's time to pick up something new,
Speaker 1: and I'm just I think I'm going to make that
Speaker 1: a New Year's resolution to figure out a hobby that
Speaker 1: will take me into suggestions from the listeners what should
Speaker 1: be Dan's hobby solid I will stay real quick that
Speaker 1: I should have I forgot about this. Matt money Smith
Speaker 1: actually does figure into a hobby for me, and I
Speaker 1: mentioned it to him once before. But I drive Luke
Speaker 1: to a little friends where he does remote schooling with
Speaker 1: every day. It's just like a thirty minute drive. We
Speaker 1: listened to Matt Money, Money and Petros every single day. Um,
Speaker 1: coming back and we listened to Talk Sports Radio on
Speaker 1: the way up, and he has lots of questions. So
Speaker 1: I stopped listening to Talk Sports radio because I was
Speaker 1: never driving. Um, it's been a delight driving. You're not
Speaker 1: in night driving. There you go driving listening to Petris
Speaker 1: and Money. Please. Rackesh Prodden asks what brand new rules
Speaker 1: should be added to the game and be retained forever.
Speaker 1: I chose this one from racksh because I feel very
Speaker 1: strongly about this. It happened again on Monday night on
Speaker 1: a hit from Ashton Davis on Cam Newton that resulted
Speaker 1: in a personal foul. I am all for as much
Speaker 1: player protection as you could build into the rule book
Speaker 1: without really destroying the game. But if you're gonna do that,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have these guys on the field, the
Speaker 1: officials tracked the game at the speed it's being played,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be throwing flags for fifteen yards that
Speaker 1: can completely reset a drive or even a game. Why
Speaker 1: don't we add an eye in the sky element and
Speaker 1: allow the opposing coaches to challenge. Uh, these late hits,
Speaker 1: whether it's shot down the middle on a wide receiver
Speaker 1: being popped by a safety or even a safety or
Speaker 1: a pass rusher coming off the edge and hitting a quarterback,
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. I also think why isn't delay
Speaker 1: a game challenge? Wible? The Texans got a seventy yard touchdown.
Speaker 1: They snapped it three seconds after the clock. That should
Speaker 1: be to be able to review that too. We've got
Speaker 1: some breaking news that Dan it's atitimate bit at breaking news.
Speaker 1: The NFL has unanimously improved playoff expansion sixteen teams if
Speaker 1: the nineteen eliminates meaningful games. This has been reported pretty
Speaker 1: widely for a week now that this might be coming,
Speaker 1: but now the NFL is officially doing it, which means
Speaker 1: we can officially talk about it. I don't love it,
Speaker 1: just because I'm worried about whether it could be something
Speaker 1: that happens in the future. It's six it would be
Speaker 1: sixteen teams, um, but this is a crazy year and
Speaker 1: this is just a way to I suppose make back
Speaker 1: some money. Frankly, if if COVID nineteen knocks out some
Speaker 1: regular season games for some teams, which feels increasingly possible.
Speaker 1: Fifty six players or personnel tested positive for COVID last
Speaker 1: week in the NFL, the previous high for a week
Speaker 1: was so that the high doubled UM and so you
Speaker 1: know they're coming up with some plans. It would be
Speaker 1: a sixteen team tournament. It would really bang the one
Speaker 1: seeds well. And speaking of speaking of talk radio, I
Speaker 1: heard Dan Patricks say that an NFL source told him
Speaker 1: that if UM that this is what they want to
Speaker 1: do for good, division would be be sixteen teams, not
Speaker 1: just this year, but if they if this goes well,
Speaker 1: and this would be kind of a test case with
Speaker 1: with how it's perceived UM. But it also I believe
Speaker 1: includes not just division winners one through four. If I
Speaker 1: I want to go read this again, but I think
Speaker 1: there was talk of it being seeded by winning percentage,
Speaker 1: which means the Eagles would not host a playoff game.
Speaker 1: If that's if that's the way this rule would be
Speaker 1: enacted this time around. I'm looking at it right now.
Speaker 1: The conference standings, if if we did go one versus eight,
Speaker 1: it would be Steelers against the Browns in the opening round.
Speaker 1: In the NFC would be Saints versus on two three
Speaker 1: Saints versus Niners would be the one eight matchup there.
Speaker 1: You know what, the NFL needs to build in these protections.
Speaker 1: Speaking of protections, uh, and then I think they should
Speaker 1: take it a step further and put everybody in a
Speaker 1: bubble as soon as this regular season ends. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's gonna happen. It doesn't sound like it is,
Speaker 1: but they need to cover their asses here. I hate
Speaker 1: I hate the sixteen teams. We don't need to see
Speaker 1: the we don't. We don't. I didn't like the the
Speaker 1: I don't need to see the thirteenth and fourteen team
Speaker 1: either that that that ship has sailed. Those teams are
Speaker 1: never teams. I'm like, need to see them for another week.
Speaker 1: Twelve was perfect sixteen to me. I hate it. Well,
Speaker 1: it's teams that have done with it this year, but
Speaker 1: I hate it after this year to make the playoffs,
Speaker 1: you need, you want to you want people to see
Speaker 1: you as a playoff team, and you're gonna be inviting
Speaker 1: in teams that did not get the job done. And
Speaker 1: I think it. I think it's a problem. If it's
Speaker 1: one year thing, that's cool, but like, uh, expanding playoffs
Speaker 1: in the NFL is is a terrible idea in my opinion,
Speaker 1: because you're gonna already get one or two teams in
Speaker 1: there that we all laugh at. That's not a good product.
Speaker 1: All right, there you go, there's some good breaking news. Greg.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you've been a little hot and cold over the
Speaker 1: years with your breaking news. But it looks like you
Speaker 1: might be turning in the corner. Yeah. That affirmation is
Speaker 1: like better than any Patriots when you know. It's great. Alright,
Speaker 1: good stuff, good show. Thank you everybody that's sent in mail,
Speaker 1: bad questions. Uh, next time you hear from us, it
Speaker 1: will be I believe a Sessler Rosenthal joint right Thursday
Speaker 1: Night football this week? Who's on the Thursday night game? This?
Speaker 1: I mean, I know, I am. Um, Well, we'll talk
Speaker 1: after the show. Then there you Go'll be Greg, most
Speaker 1: likely in a mystery guest recapping the Titans Cults pre game.
Speaker 1: We just previewed. And then yes, we have our NFL
Speaker 1: Network show that airs on Saturday morning with additional re
Speaker 1: air and then yes, Sunday night, the flagship program returns,
Speaker 1: hopefully with Chris Weston. All Right, this is Dan Hanson
Speaker 1: signing off for White Storm, the Old Boss Rack Hollywood
Speaker 1: behind the Virtual glass Well until Thursday m