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Speaker 1: Yo, yo yo.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to us up there podcast. I am your active

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Speaker 2: and attractive hosts. I want to say thank you, thank

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Speaker 2: you to everybody who is associated with It's up that podcast.

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Speaker 2: As we continue to win, man, we feel good.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: The market is inviting to us. The game has welcomed us.

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Speaker 2: A lot of the people in the game that's in

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Speaker 2: the business and the people that know the business project

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Speaker 2: us to be able to do well in the space, man,

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Speaker 2: and I just got to continue to work hard and

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Speaker 2: with you guys help, I'll be able to do.

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Speaker 1: So. Let me address a couple of things.

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Speaker 2: First of all, let me give a round of applause

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Speaker 2: to the people that's on my Patreon. These are the

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Speaker 2: individuals that see my vision as we work our way

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Speaker 2: through figuring out how to thrive into space. I believe

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Speaker 2: what I'm doing is I'm breaking the barrier and showing

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Speaker 2: podcast guys how to make maximize a podcast. There's gonna

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Speaker 2: be some rough turns, There's gonna be some bumps in

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Speaker 2: the road, right There's gonna be people that's telling me

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Speaker 2: to do it a different way. But I truly believe

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Speaker 2: that if you have the right content, if you have

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Speaker 2: the right fan base, and you do the right marketing.

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Speaker 2: I believe that my business model is the new business

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Speaker 2: model for podcasts around the world. So round of applause

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Speaker 2: for me, you know, as I try to do these

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Speaker 2: things without any help, right as I try to see

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Speaker 2: Joe dropped it here, Joe did this?

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Speaker 1: Me not worth a game? Did this?

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Speaker 2: Brilliant idiots did this. Combat Jack did this. Tax Stone

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Speaker 2: was in this situation. Charlemagne the kilt it with with

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Speaker 2: a whole different thing. Even though they're not podcast, they

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Speaker 2: operate podcast space. But here's where I get most people.

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Speaker 2: I pull out of those guys. I go to the

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Speaker 2: other side of the street and I say, what THEO

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Speaker 2: vonn done this? Lex Freeman done this, Joe Rogan done this,

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Speaker 2: Jordan Peterson Daily, why I've done this? Stephen Crowder done this.

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Speaker 2: You know they have a pod father over there on

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Speaker 2: that side. Rogan called this. Got a pod father that

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Speaker 2: had the first partcast according to him. On our side,

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Speaker 2: it was combat Jack and Rosenberg was the first two

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Speaker 2: people that kind of was in it. But you have

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Speaker 2: to understand, I look at bird Christ and I look

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Speaker 2: at Tom Sagirl, I look at the numbers, I look

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Speaker 2: at the business that they're doing, you know, and for me,

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Speaker 2: it's important for us to identify how to market it's moving.

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Speaker 2: I had a gual on my YouTube going back and

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Speaker 2: forth by me like, man, you should just dump all

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Speaker 2: your content over here on YouTube, and it let me

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Speaker 2: know he didn't really understand the business. Because this ip

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Speaker 2: is so important, right, what you're dealing with. When you

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Speaker 2: And so when I come up out of the darkness

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Speaker 2: this has happened to me. First of all, people need

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Speaker 2: to under staying this is not my first rodeo. I'm

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Speaker 2: So again, understand who.

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Speaker 1: You're dealing with. But people don't do any research.

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Speaker 2: So the guy's telling me, yo, dump all your shit

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Speaker 2: on YouTube, and I'm trying to get them to understand it.

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Speaker 2: Half for my allure, half for my appeal, you know,

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Speaker 2: half of my appeal is the fact that people haven't

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Speaker 2: heard the kind of things I'm saying and what I found.

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Speaker 2: And I'm telling you this so people under me pay attention.

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Speaker 2: Right here, the people in the business that's doing better

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Speaker 2: than you but doing the same thing that you're doing.

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Speaker 2: a lot of these guys are paranoid and number two

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Speaker 2: is their job to know the market and so trust

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Speaker 2: and believe if you're making noise and you one of

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Speaker 2: What I found that happened in my circumstance is is

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Speaker 2: and again understanding how to hustle with this. It is

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Speaker 2: can't explain that in the comment to a guy who

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Speaker 2: just a boydshit comment. So he was like, man, I

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Speaker 2: just hated that. You know, the YouTube fans kind of

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: When we come from you know, the Brilliant Idiot days,

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Speaker 2: wouldn't even have ads on this show. It's before they

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Speaker 2: knew this was a business, sir, This before people knew

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Speaker 2: encourage me, just drop all your shit on YouTube. Which

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Speaker 2: there's a process of it getting on YouTube. It will

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Speaker 2: get on YouTube. It's just a process the fans that

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Speaker 2: want to and also they want to have that experience

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Speaker 1: All of the shit stopping in the middle. They go

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Speaker 2: But if you want to sit there and go through

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Speaker 2: that's the only way that your creator, your favorite guy

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Speaker 2: because the splits are no good.

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Speaker 1: So they force us to find a way.

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Speaker 2: And then Joe likes the way a little bit, and

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Speaker 2: know what you're doing. You see what I'm saying, And

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Speaker 2: do you have merged? Do you have constant things that

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Speaker 2: And it's not that I don't care about on YouTube,

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Speaker 2: it's just I've already lost a YouTube channel before. So

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Speaker 2: when you build up a YouTube channel and you make

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Speaker 2: it's something to be like all right, and then all

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Speaker 2: Not only do I now have to find all these

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Speaker 2: here with everything you got, put your whole business here

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Speaker 2: I have no problem with YouTube. I respect the business.

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Speaker 2: Whatever the split see is that they've created the platform.

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Speaker 1: That's the agreement.

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Speaker 2: But I'm talking to the consumer, to the fans, to

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Speaker 2: to nothing. I pay every creator that I appreciate, if

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Speaker 2: I pay because I know what it's like to get

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Speaker 2: that's not the case. And also I want to give

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Speaker 2: gonna roll out some of our guest based interviews now.

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Speaker 2: Also a little more housekeeping. We have the Mall episode

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Speaker 2: full episode, go see that. It is dynamic. I appreciated

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Speaker 2: the conversation. The fans are appreciating the conversation. Joe Budden's

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Speaker 2: We probably had two three hundred thousand just in clips

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Speaker 2: We gonna kick some high level game and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: Interesting behavior.

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Speaker 2: I think what he's says out when he saw Wallow

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Speaker 2: gillis Charlemagne and them it's worth us having a conversation about.

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Speaker 2: So for those of you are unaware, Charlemagne and DJ

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Speaker 2: Ven went over to me and I was worth a game.

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Speaker 2: We talked about that last week. Joe Budden them responded

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Speaker 2: It's like I ain't never had, especially before I got on. See,

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Speaker 2: when you get on, everybody say you had them, and

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Speaker 2: they had Joe back, and they had Joe Bed's interest,

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Speaker 2: and they were looking out for you, and they always

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Speaker 2: didn't nobody say keep going, didn't nobody clap, didn't nobody

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Speaker 2: they see me pushing and pulling, they know he won us,

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Speaker 1: Who he think he is? What it seemed to be.

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Speaker 4: Follow the highest pig black podcasts in the game.

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Speaker 1: That's not what the listen is.

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Speaker 1: And we own everything doing. I'm just saying, you see

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Speaker 2: I just don't see that being the stopper for this

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Speaker 1: Let's pay attention to Joe Budden.

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Speaker 3: Convince me that this is about me. I do feel half.

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Speaker 5: I'm half and half I think about you. Nothing in

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Speaker 5: of talk, I could I could personalize it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, really said, any company that don't take ads got

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Speaker 5: then he said, and we only do once a week

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Speaker 6: I think it's bad that we're in the space that

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Speaker 6: I think it's bad that some other people instigated it.

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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, like, that's instigating shit. Now,

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00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 6: I'm trying to give you a battery in your say

436
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 6: fuck that list were doing X y Z funck that.

437
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,360
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Like, I don't like that

438
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 6: amongst among successful black people. I think that's coin and

439
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 6: I think that's whack whack flip.

440
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 3: You want me to handle this man?

441
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 2: All right, let's address that really quick. It's just my guy,

442
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 2: but we got to address this for what it is.

443
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 2: What it's just saying is the fact that DJ Envy

444
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 2: mentioned the list was instigating it. And even if I

445
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 2: agree with the isshing that aspect, that still doesn't explain

446
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 2: why Joe went as Charlemagne, you tell me said that

447
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 2: to the side. He also said that they instigated it.

448
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 2: Everybody knows I'm with the competitive shit. Like I'm with it.

449
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 2: I ain't ducking nothing, So I'm with the competitive weditor

450
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 2: if you understand me. However, they taking it, So I'm

451
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 2: not the guy that's gonna say, you know, let's not

452
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 2: compete and take over, right, because that's how I am,

453
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 2: That's how I'm birthed, That's how I'm raised. I want

454
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 2: to be the best at everything I'm involved with. That's

455
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 2: how I come up. That's how I'm gonna go down. Now,

456
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,360
Speaker 2: how we come in, it's how we gonna leave at.

457
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 2: So this is how I'm Yeah, that's my vibration. Right,

458
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 2: be the best said it, Be the best said it.

459
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 2: Let that be no misunderstanding that everything was left for

460
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 2: them to best witness.

461
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 1: Be the best said it. That's my vibration.

462
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 2: But if we're gonna look at instigating, we can say

463
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 2: that complex instigator because it was a list and they

464
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 2: put one, two, three, four, and they put one of

465
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 2: power Ringers.

466
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 1: When I believe that.

467
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 2: If Joe was so powerful that it should have been there,

468
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,239
Speaker 2: because some of those episodes isshing Joe win at it

469
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 2: that that gives Joe the platform to be able to

470
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 2: give examples to what he's able to do, and so

471
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 2: bad being power rankings and that not be the case.

472
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: I found that to be. I found that to be

473
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: a wobbler.

474
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 2: Now if they said most talentive, if they said the

475
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 2: most charisma, even if he want to say highest paid,

476
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 2: even though I disagree with that, we're currently breaking that down.

477
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 2: But I'm saying power with rankings is why I was

478
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 2: caught up at because powerful with nobody else. It ain't

479
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 2: like I got to show by myself. You see, they

480
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 2: put Wallow and Gilly there together. They put Charlemagne there.

481
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 2: I mean, he has spin off podcast. I think envything

482
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 2: kind of slowed down on that, but they separated them.

483
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 2: But the Wallow and Gilly thing, because they are podcasters,

484
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 2: it shows you that, like hey, and then for them

485
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 2: to have Nyla there and for Complex to just classify

486
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 2: her as Charlemagne's protege, I just says that okay in

487
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 2: that in their mindset, take Loan out of it. If

488
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,239
Speaker 2: they're saying power rankings and the person they have at

489
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 2: number three has somebody on here that they are saying

490
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 2: is their protege, and that's really all they saying about it. Right,

491
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 2: of course she's doing way more than that, But I'm

492
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 2: saying complex for them to classify that way, I said, damn,

493
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 2: why I'm finding an issue with that now? That is

494
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 2: instigating on behalf of them. I felt like they was

495
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 2: trying to pitch something to Joe. I think Joe's talented.

496
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 2: I want to be clear. I want to be clear

497
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 2: with that because I don't want people to take away

498
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 2: from this and say Loan is you know, and I'm

499
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 2: seeing a bunch of y'all weirdos, right because I come

500
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 2: out and say something about Joe, y'all get scared. It's

501
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 2: legends in the game that it's like, Oh.

502
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 1: You're a sucker.

503
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 2: You're a real old sucker, And I don't mind telling

504
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 2: you to your face you are sucker. I ain't worrying

505
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 2: about you blocking no deals or nothing for me. I

506
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 2: don't care about it that much. I'ma have the real conversations.

507
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 2: I believe the information or elevate past all that, all

508
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 2: that silling, they got all that. I just think the

509
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 2: information to bypass that. That's how I feel in my heart,

510
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: and I go out on my sword if that don't happen.

511
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 2: But what I won't do is not acknowledge these sucker dudes.

512
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 2: That's in position, right. I see certain people that try

513
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 2: not to because I say something about Joe. It feels

514
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: like that they in a situation to fall back. And oh, man,

515
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 2: Joe ain't gonna mess with me. If I'm around, Joe

516
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 2: gonna make fun of me like y'all grown me and man,

517
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 2: been in this business twenty years and he be shitting

518
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 2: on y'all. He ain't never shitting on me. One thing

519
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,959
Speaker 2: I know for show Joe no loan a boss. And

520
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 2: then on top of that, let's deal with Joe's reaction

521
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 2: to go number one. He said a lot of weird shit,

522
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 2: said a lot of weird things when he went number one.

523
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,719
Speaker 2: You gotta understand that. Let's pay attention both the way.

524
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 3: When you say I don't fuck with ass, his niggas

525
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 3: be fuck with ass. I know what they get. I

526
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 3: know these niggas contracts.

527
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 5: You be going in when you in your rents, And

528
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 5: for me, that system has always looked like I think,

529
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 5: I think your man, your man. I think that Charlamagne

530
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 5: comes from that system. iHeart is that system radio right,

531
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 5: is that kind of dinosauric just old white views that's

532
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 5: fronting to have polst on culture to sell ads, Like

533
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,719
Speaker 5: That's how I view that. But he brought that up,

534
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 5: like I have nothing to say about this because he

535
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 5: kind of introduced that while they were on this show.

536
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 5: And I think he introduced that because he's a slimy

537
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 5: little piece of shit and he was trying to get

538
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 5: a conversation to go somewhere. And I don't think that

539
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 5: Gillian Wallow took debate. I think they big up themselves.

540
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 5: I think they big up each other and they should

541
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,239
Speaker 5: be able to do that. But the important, but the

542
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 5: important part that I want to focus on is that

543
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 5: it's that little.

544
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 7: Dinosaur or old age.

545
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 5: Never kind of guided out the mud nigga that came

546
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 5: in there and did that.

547
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 2: He did that, all right, let's talk about that. He

548
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 2: did what Charlemagne said, don't bring up the list, and

549
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 2: he bigged up Wallow and Giley did what, if anything,

550
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 2: I would look at it and Wallow and Gilly. Then

551
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 2: my people, I got a lot of love for Wallow.

552
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 2: But if you're picking, you take shot. Said what Gilly said?

553
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: You take shot? Said well, wall On them said like, yo,

554
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 2: we own everything. We've heard some niggas say, because see

555
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 2: this is why I say Joe budn't get this short

556
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 2: term memory. He's the one that had said before that

557
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: Gilly and them don't own their ip. Joe had said

558
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 2: that that's why Wallow them, Yo, we own everything. They

559
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: trying to let the young creators know. No, it ain't

560
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 2: like that. You ain't got to sell out to get

561
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 2: the paper loan on everything because of that. But you

562
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 2: gotta understand that you will hear Joe try to come

563
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: out on top of the mountain say I'm the only.

564
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: One that own my shit, and that ain't the case.

565
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 2: But if you picking, you take shot, said well, Wallo said,

566
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 2: because wa Loo can't be gangster. We walked away from

567
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 2: a dub and we got more, and we own everything

568
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: and we only go once a week. Come on, my nigga, shit,

569
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 2: we like a TV show around here, and we getting

570
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 2: way more than TV shows around here, and we sitting

571
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 2: with some of the hottest people in the world.

572
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: And make it having something right.

573
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 2: So if anything, if Joe pick it and look it

574
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 2: for something, he grabbed that. But what he grabbed, he

575
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 2: grabbed Charlomagne name out of that. And you tell me

576
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 2: why you grabbed Charlomagne name out of that. You grab

577
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 2: Charlmagne name out of that. In my opinion, because in

578
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 2: Joe's brain when he laid out at night, I believe

579
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 2: he's still in his knows that Charlemagne done went through

580
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 2: doors that he just can't go through. And those doors

581
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 2: have led to a fortune. Those doors have led to

582
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 2: positions that Joe probably and his mind feel like, why me?

583
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 2: And that's a disease. And I want to tell Joe

584
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 2: button something. It's natural. All of us have it. All

585
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 2: of us have that little feeling, well, man, why I

586
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 2: ain't man, I'm supposed to. You gotta fight that. You

587
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 2: gotta fight that feeling to say I'm gonna be mad

588
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 2: because it ain't me. No matter how blessed I am,

589
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: I'm ignoring my blessing. We got this ability in our culture.

590
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 2: The only counter things we don't have to only value

591
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 2: the opportunities that was missed for us to only identify

592
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 2: the things that we couldn't get, the places we didn't

593
00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 2: get to go, and we shun other people that may

594
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 2: have got there because they made it easier for you.

595
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 2: But see, they don't talk about you created the door

596
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 2: for opportunity to knock on. That's the whole thing. You granding,

597
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: and you're pushing you creating your door because opportunity gonna come.

598
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: You looking for opportunity to come knocking.

599
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 2: But he grabbed Charlemagne who said nothing in that clip,

600
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 2: but yo, Wallow and Gilly make the most money is

601
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 2: podcaster when he could have inserted breakfast Club right there

602
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 2: and came out as king of the hell and said, yo,

603
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 2: we just told you we did twenty eight million a month,

604
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: and Gilly just said, hey, yo, these niggas number one,

605
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 2: they doing twenty eight million. But instead of that, in

606
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 2: my opinion, he throw the ad lou Dwallow on them.

607
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 2: They come dunking boom. We own everything. That's how we

608
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 2: done the business. This is what we're doing as a

609
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 2: and this is Joe budden reaction to it. Let that

610
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: be no misunderstandings. I can't hate on somebody like Joe Buden.

611
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 2: I come from this culture for real and I did

612
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 2: everything that right. I was the guy for real, so

613
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 2: I couldn't hate on no man in this space. And

614
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 2: it's entertainment industry. You gonna have to bring me a

615
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 2: street gutta for me to you know what I mean.

616
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 2: You got to bring me somebody that been through the

617
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 2: waters I've been in for for it to even be considered, right,

618
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: I can't really hate on these guys. These guys ain't

619
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: my you know, these guys ain't my contemporariest. They're just

620
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 2: my coworkers and my colleagues in this space, right. I

621
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 2: gotta watch these guys because that's the way that we

622
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 2: learn the business. There's no handbook on podcasts, and that's

623
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 2: why I don't like when these fans try to say,

624
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 2: long start, don't talk about the podcasts. Manamn, it seemed

625
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 2: like you don't like these people. Yo, I'm talking about

626
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 2: the game player. Go listen to my other interviews. Why

627
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,479
Speaker 2: don't talk about that? Well, we just talk about whoever

628
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 2: I'm speaking with. We just talk about whatever they own,

629
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 2: what they got going on. But when I get it

630
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: on this podcast, whatever I'm own, this is what I'm

631
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 2: talking about it. Right now, I'm in the middle of

632
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 2: signing deal. So I'm on this podcast business wave. That's

633
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 2: what I've been on for the last couple of years,

634
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 2: trying to structure the business in real time, speaking to

635
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 2: my people in real time.

636
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: And you gotta respect that. But Joe wasn't reaching.

637
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 2: It and grab Charlemagne to God's name out of that

638
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 2: clip that I played, and he's even blaming Charlemagne for

639
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 2: bringing it up. He didn't bring the list up. He

640
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 2: bigged up wall On and get it. Who just showed him?

641
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 2: See to pay attention to this, ladies and gentlemen. Whyal

642
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 2: just showed him a contract that probably was a twenty

643
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 2: five thirty million dollar contract. Charlemagne didn't insert this conversation

644
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 2: while Lo just showed him. He said, oh, then said,

645
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 2: you're an exec. Told me that, man, that's what they're exact. Yo,

646
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep it rich. They told me that Wallach,

647
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 2: Gilly wanta gonna turn it up.

648
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: Say the number on let them know we they pushing

649
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: back again.

650
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 2: Nah, naw, gillyway gonna do that, Gilly, but they the

651
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: highest paid. He lead with that and he shoot at

652
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 2: Charloma mane y'all hear y'all, y'all make it make sense.

653
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 2: When you're dealing with somebody that's dealing with sins, pay

654
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 2: attention one person.

655
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 5: The real conversation here that should be being had is,

656
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 5: like it said, all of these black media people that

657
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:39,479
Speaker 5: are able to have these multi million dollar conversations, that's

658
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 5: a cause to celebrate. I don't want this short little

659
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 5: fuck face to misconstrue that.

660
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 3: For the real niggas out here, that's.

661
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 5: Cause for a toast in the air, like the what

662
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 5: was that the one hundred hustler video where everybody come out,

663
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 5: that's cause for for constant big ups.

664
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 3: How do you not root for that? Like that's where

665
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 3: it's confusing. If you know world war war.

666
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 8: War, War War, War, War.

667
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 9: War War.

668
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 2: Before we move any further, help me understand this, and

669
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 2: everybody know, I can't hate on these guys, and I

670
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 2: gotta keep saying it because I'm fighting the Internet. It's

671
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 2: rough over here when you're dealing with the Truka. These

672
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 2: Internet guys that don't see nothing but these people that

673
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 2: they have idolized as God. They don't see nothing but them.

674
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 2: Whenever they open their eyes, whenever they see their name,

675
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 2: they come to defend it. They don't care what it's

676
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 2: about right or wrong. This is how coachs happened. Loan,

677
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 2: don't give a fuck. I stand over here with my

678
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 2: own principle, on my own constitution. I stand on my

679
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 2: own circumstances, and I get to talk about what I

680
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 2: want to talk about. It's a blessing to be in

681
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 2: this position. But you you telling me that Joe Budden

682
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: now is saying that the complex list is the perfect

683
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 2: time to celebrate. When he came mind of said, I'm

684
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: putting my thumb in dudes face and I'm scrolling past

685
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 2: all these dudes. Of course I'm number one. What would

686
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,479
Speaker 2: you think I would be? And of course he's gonna

687
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 2: say it's comic relief, and I would say it's comic relief.

688
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: Be how it ain't comic relief. Now I know what

689
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: it is.

690
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 3: Thinking it's cool when they do it. It's a problem

691
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 3: when I do it.

692
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: Fuck them, it's unfortunate. You help me understand.

693
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 2: You went on an hour, you probably did forty minutes

694
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 2: on being number one and how you shit it on

695
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 2: everybody and what they think it would be. And I've

696
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 2: been number one and I been that guy, and all

697
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: of a sudden, now when these two black dudes, get together,

698
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 2: it's time to celebrate.

699
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 1: I find this to be interesting.

700
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 2: I find that Joe Budden may know that the fans

701
00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: confused this number one power ranking with being the richest

702
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 2: and making the most money. And I think that because

703
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 2: Charlemagne uttered those words, that he put a little truth

704
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 2: next to.

705
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: Them, lives or the confusion. And I think that that.

706
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 2: I think that this is Joe Budden's way of saying,

707
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 2: don't do that, or I try to I shoot, I'll

708
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 2: try to shoot at your playing. And he knows, or

709
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 2: at least he thinks he knows that Charlemagne won't answer.

710
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: This is my opinion. Everybody got one. But I didn't

711
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 2: see a reason for him to grab this and go

712
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 2: this far. When Charlemagne didn't say nothing, I just played

713
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 2: you guys the altercation.

714
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: Pay attention. We're gonna go a little further.

715
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 5: Twenty years in, came home and outworked. Ninety seven percent

716
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 5: of y'all still is doing it. How do you set

717
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 5: look at that guy and say I don't want him

718
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 5: to How do you look at him and say he

719
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 5: don't deserve that?

720
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 3: It's weird?

721
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 5: Why would Charlamagne going there and try to be reductive?

722
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 3: Oh, shit, what'd you say?

723
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: Reductive?

724
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 5: Reductive? I like that word. It's so fitting for where

725
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 5: I'm going. These niggas always submitting me into the dickoff.

726
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 5: I'd be somewhere minding my business and y'all take my

727
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 5: dick and.

728
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: Throw it on the table and just throw it on

729
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: the table. But you were like I was using that.

730
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 3: But wait, everybody, am I missing?

731
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 5: I get confused and I need help from my brothers

732
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 5: and my friends. Everybody is on the clip celebrating. They

733
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 5: celebrating walking away from twenty million dollars, and I know

734
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 5: how that feels.

735
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 3: It should be celebrating, But.

736
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 5: Am I missing something because the narrative didn't go this

737
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 5: way when I walked away from twenty million dollars? Well,

738
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 5: you mean to tell me they walked away from twenty

739
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 5: million dollars and gasp, got an even better situation.

740
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: That's possible for black men.

741
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 5: Nobody said that was possible for black men when it

742
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 5: was happening to me. I just want to highlight out

743
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 5: some of these narratives change because, like I said on

744
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 5: Drink Champs, when everybody's up, it's not too much to

745
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 5: fight about.

746
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 3: But that's not where my anger comes from.

747
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 5: All of these years, I've been looking at Charlemagne and

748
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 5: I like Magneto and Professor X that just have some

749
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 5: of the same views but different ways of getting their

750
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 5: different ideologies. And I always thought that he was like

751
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 5: that second tier right under me. I always thought that

752
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 5: right after me was him, because the optics made it

753
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 5: look like that. But then him and Envy went up

754
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 5: there looking Goofy and Goofy, and they just sucked so

755
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 5: much dick that I had.

756
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 3: They sucked.

757
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 5: Charlemagne was looking up to Gillian Wallow and all it

758
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 5: was like a light illuminating from them, and he said,

759
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 5: they in the highest and it hit me and I

760
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 5: got sad. It killed a little piece of me to know.

761
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:33,919
Speaker 5: Holy shit, Charlemagne is saying to Gillian Wallam, make more

762
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 5: than him. Oh you mean to tell him self. I

763
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 5: said to myself self self, no way, not with a

764
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 5: late night show. And you just told me about a

765
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 5: podcast network. You just had your podcast fest. You did

766
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 5: like a festival of sorts, something of something of a jigger, you.

767
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 2: Did, right, So I have to deal with the information.

768
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 2: Number One, I was at the podcast festival for Black Effecture.

769
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: It was sold out.

770
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 2: Number two, you can ask everybody in the industry that

771
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 2: go for revote, they go for earn your leisure. This year,

772
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 2: I'm just now telling them like, hey, yo, I probably

773
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 2: want to come in through the backway or whatever because

774
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 2: they bothering me a little too much. But usually I

775
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 2: just buy a regular ticket and come in with the

776
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 2: fans and just be out there in the crowd. It

777
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: can be a two hour line, I'll be in the line.

778
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 2: And so with black Effect, I came in with the

779
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 2: fans and I'm like, yo, this shit is really sold out,

780
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 2: Like it's a line, like know where to pArg like

781
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 2: walking it's people are I want you to understand that

782
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 2: everything within about ten blocks was charging in the park, right,

783
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 2: so they knew, like that thing down there is sold

784
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 2: out and they're gonna need parking. And so that's me

785
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 2: giving you information. You do with that, whatever you want

786
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 2: to do with that. And number three, I just left

787
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 2: eighty five South show shut out to Chad at eighty

788
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 2: five South shutout, Colos, DC, Chico, everybody, the whole squad.

789
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 2: They just let me know the kind of money they

790
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: getting with Charlemagne. Just help them get that million dollar builling.

791
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 2: So do you truly believe that Joe Budden thinks that

792
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 2: Charlemagne don't have no money. I know that's not even

793
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 2: a thing. Matter of fact, speaking to Charlemagne, he said

794
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 2: that shit's too comical to even consider. Literally, Like, yo, bro,

795
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 2: that shit don't even make sense. It's no, I'm not

796
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 2: even right. Niggas is saying what mand please. But again,

797
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 2: the bigger thing right here that I want people to

798
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 2: focus on is why why pick Charlemagne out of that?

799
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 2: I want you to know something about Joe Budden that

800
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 2: people should know. He doesn't mention people who he thinks

801
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 2: is under him, and if he does, he'll try to

802
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: bleep that name. And I'm telling you something that I'm thinking.

803
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 2: I know this for a fact. He do it to

804
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 2: me all the time, right, So this is what happens.

805
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 2: He'll bleep their name in efforts to try not to

806
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 2: give them to shed light on them, or bleeping the

807
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 2: up and coming podcaster's name to me, speaks volumes. Joe,

808
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 2: don't mention those guys. For him to mention Charlemagne continuously,

809
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 2: what does that say? He understands that there's still some

810
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 2: power left in Charlemagne that he won't access to. Because

811
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 2: if he really believed he was king of the hell.

812
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 2: He wouldn't say his name, just like he don't say

813
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 2: nobody else's name. It's just common math. But the idea

814
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 2: that there's no money in Charlemagne's hand.

815
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 5: Even though I'm only paid about twenty one thousand.

816
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 3: Dollars a year.

817
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 5: According to First according to Everything Everything, twenty five sometimes on.

818
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 3: A good a good year. Yo, No, I'm serious.

819
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 5: I felt I didn't want Magneto to die. It's not

820
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 5: a race anymore. He should have been bumped down a

821
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 5: few more slots in the list if he not at

822
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:31,919
Speaker 5: the god, and he would have gotten away with it.

823
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 7: To it, if it wasn't for those meddling, fucking kids.

824
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 5: Now to the other notion of highest paid podcasters, well,

825
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 5: how do you know? Clearly I think I've done a

826
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 5: masterful job riding the accounting.

827
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie them glasses.

828
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 2: Ain't giving it for me to have some shit like

829
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 2: it wrapped around your head like you're finna play laser tag.

830
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: You know them shit that make you put on when you.

831
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 2: Walk in the dog room and you got the back page,

832
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 2: and then with the kids running around looking for niggas

833
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 2: to shoot, tell me that ain't them that nigga got

834
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 2: laser tag glasses on, and I say that, knowing what

835
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 2: they cost, I'm uninterested in that. I what CODDI is?

836
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 2: I got seventeen perl. That's keep it in perspective. I

837
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 2: come in like this. I think it just needs to

838
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: be noted. When niggas respond to me, handle me with care.

839
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 2: I tell you, ladies and gentlemen, handle the big dude

840
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 2: with care. But how many of y'all believe some of

841
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 2: that shit? When he say that he believes Charlamagne ain't

842
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 2: making no money or don't have a million dollars when

843
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 2: he was sitting up there saying it. In my opinion,

844
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 2: everybody needs a soundboard, because I got soundboard. And what

845
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 2: did I want to play when I heard that.

846
00:46:59,120 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 10: It's t.

847
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: Liar?

848
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 11: I know your liar. God said you're liar. You are lier.

849
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 3: Yah, I'm funny.

850
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 5: Come on, come on, I'm just saying, how do you

851
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 5: know now? If you niggas are over there trying to

852
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 5: come up with a new list of highest paid, count

853
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 5: me in.

854
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 3: I'm coming.

855
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 5: Whatever we have, whatever metric we're using to do this,

856
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 5: I'm there.

857
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:36,240
Speaker 3: We can keep it a secret.

858
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 5: We can not tell nobody what I'm damn for that.

859
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 3: Then you're not.

860
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: All right?

861
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 2: So and we're finna move on from this. I got

862
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 2: too much to talk about. But here's the question, what

863
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,919
Speaker 2: do you write people out there? Because I know I'm

864
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 2: putting Wallow and get over Joe Budden considering all things,

865
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 2: and I'm putting sharp main and envy with the.

866
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club at the top right.

867
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 2: Academics probably falls under button or maybe over button.

868
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: I put Vlad over button, but may not.

869
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: Be as as how on their list as he thinks

870
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 2: respectfully or whatever. But here's the thing, here's the question

871
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 2: when you deal specifically with Wallowing, Gillleck and Joe Butden,

872
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 2: I'll ask the same question I asked from last week.

873
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,439
Speaker 1: Where do you rank who do you think makes more?

874
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 2: You have Wallow and Gilly that are being paid for

875
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 2: the audio to have ads are wrapped around the audio.

876
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 2: They have average wrapped around the video, and they have

877
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 2: ad cents on YouTube. And that's just the top three

878
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 2: source of income just from podcasts. They don't count merged,

879
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 2: they're doing live shows, they're doing a number of other things.

880
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 2: They got the business spotlight things, so they got five

881
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 2: six seven streams of revenue coming from the park looking

882
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 2: at Joe.

883
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: I don't hear ads on audio, so we don't have that.

884
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: We have ads.

885
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 2: We don't have ads on video, but we have a

886
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 2: paywaller patron, and we have ads.

887
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: Sense with YouTube.

888
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 2: Those two streams of revenue making more than these seven

889
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 2: five to seven streams of revenue that Wallow and Gilly

890
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 2: them have just just does not make sense to me.

891
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 2: And from a business perspective, I cannot identify how he

892
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 2: can say that he still makes more than that podcast

893
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 2: as a business.

894
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: And that's my opinion. And we'll close that off on that.

895
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 2: Let's move on, all right, Let's talk about this Alabama

896
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 2: player drove one hundred and forty one miles to evade

897
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 2: traffic stop. And there's a few things that I want

898
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 2: to speak to in this because there's a lot of

899
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 2: young athletes, so y'all, a lot of young entrepreneurs, a

900
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 2: lot of young men with their whole life ahead of them,

901
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 2: and they caught in that weird place that the young

902
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 2: men get caught in. See, it's important to understand that

903
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 2: they're gonna get caught in this weird place. What rep

904
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 2: looks so good to him? And the shit these rap

905
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 2: niggas talk about it looked good. It seemed like that's

906
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 2: the route to get some easy right. Don't nobody tell

907
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 2: you about everything up under this happening that's involved with

908
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 2: a nigga. Why he need a gun with fifty rounds

909
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 2: on it? See they gonna start carrying it a part

910
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 2: of the outfit. They don't understand how to fect the

911
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 2: outcome where I come from. You see a nigga with

912
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 2: a chopper with an AAR fifteen or something, he and

913
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 2: some serioush shit. It be the niggas like, oh yeah, bro,

914
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 2: he living like that, y'all know he You know, he did.

915
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 1: This to sudden and such that the sudden and such,

916
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: you know, so.

917
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,919
Speaker 2: He living like that. It warrants that. Now they think

918
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 2: it's cool to have that.

919
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: They think it's.

920
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 2: Part of the outfit. Go up on the ground, not

921
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 2: gonna get dog. Now get the stick, bro, Hold on

922
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 2: for you take the picture. Get the stick, bro. It's

923
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,760
Speaker 2: a lot of that going on. But what you're about

924
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 2: to see with this Alabama athlete, it's him encounter his

925
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 2: first time that he can't talking way out of something.

926
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 2: You put these children in positions where they talk their

927
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 2: way out of shit, and then when they get in

928
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 2: real life, it's spank them and guess what, Mama can't

929
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 2: come get them and Daddy can't come get them.

930
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: I tell my kids, you think you are small on erebout.

931
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 2: It when you get in the real world, man, and

932
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 2: you run one of them tricks and it don't work.

933
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 2: I see you in four years because they taking you

934
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 2: to prison about that one. Yeah, you got to go

935
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 2: to jail for that one, that little trick right there

936
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 2: you ran.

937
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: Yeah.

938
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 2: Nah, it ain't just harmless no more. And it's hard

939
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 2: for a human being to change behavior, to change course

940
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 2: without being led, without being instructed.

941
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: Right, we are creatures of habit. So what happens is as.

942
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 2: A youngster, if I start tricking Mama, I start tricking Dad,

943
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 2: I start tricking the school people. See some of these

944
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 2: people you think you tricking, They just don't care. Like

945
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 2: the school lady. You know, you think you just run

946
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 2: as a kid. You think you run a hell of

947
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 2: a trick on her. Man, she just here to get

948
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 2: her paid, chick. She don't give a damn about nothing

949
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,720
Speaker 2: you doing. To be honest, right, And so we hope

950
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 2: that the teachers that's in the school district have the

951
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 2: mindset to be more involved with the children. But oftentimes

952
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,720
Speaker 2: you dealing with people that's dead to get their chick.

953
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 1: So I ain't got my homework.

954
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 2: I ain't now, I ain't keeping up all know you know,

955
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 2: you think you're running a trick on somebody that ain't

956
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 2: involved and ain't even playing the game with you. Now

957
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 2: you can trick your mother and your father and your

958
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 2: loved ones because they playing the game with you. They

959
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 2: want to see the best for you, so they trying

960
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 2: to make sure you ain't doing nothing done.

961
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: But he you is trying to run a trick. You

962
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:45,399
Speaker 1: get in real life.

963
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 2: Those tricks hit walls whiles you are unfamiliar with, so

964
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 2: you bound to make a mistake. That mistake may cost

965
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 2: you everything. We're dealing with this athlete right here going

966
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 2: one hundred and forty one miles. Guess why going one

967
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 2: hundred and forty one miles, Ladies and gentlemen, You guessed

968
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 2: it because he's scared to get pulled over, because he

969
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 2: know better. He know everything I got in this coy

970
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 2: right here had just cost me everything I've been working on,

971
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 2: So I'm finna try to get away. Mistake on top

972
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 2: of mistake equals disaster. First let's read the press release suspend.

973
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 2: The Alabama freshman defensive back Tony Mitchell drove over one

974
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 2: hundred and forty one miles an hour while trying to

975
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 2: evade deputies before his arrest on drug charges in the Florida.

976
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,479
Speaker 2: In Florida last week, authority said Mitchell and another man

977
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 2: who was a passenger in Mitchell's car were arrested last

978
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 2: week in charge with possession of marijuana with the intent

979
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 2: to sell or deliver. According to the County Sarah's Office

980
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 2: arrest report. The other man also was charged with carrying

981
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 2: a concealed gun without a permit. Holmes County is located

982
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 2: around fifty miles north of Panama City and shares northern

983
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 2: border with Alabama. According to the reporter, deputy spotted Mitchell's

984
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:17,280
Speaker 2: black Dodge Challenger traveling seventy eight miles power. Now, before

985
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 2: I go any further, I know you traveling seven eight

986
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 2: miles power because you ain't got nothing in the car.

987
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:26,439
Speaker 2: I know you small, Yeah naw, you ain't going yeah nah,

988
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 2: you're going to speed limit if you got it old on,

989
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 2: y'all know y'all ain't doing that.

990
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: Let's keep reading.

991
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 2: He was going seven eight miles power in a fifty

992
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 2: five zone on a rural highway, right, and that was

993
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 2: last Wednesday night, and attempted to pull the vehicle over.

994
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 2: So the deputy attempted to pull the vehicle over. The

995
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 2: deputy then reported that the challenger sped off, going over

996
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 2: one hundred and forty one miles an hour, and a

997
00:54:56,040 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 2: deputy discontinued pursuit after several miles. Then ten minutes later,

998
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 2: the deputy spotted the challenger again.

999
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: Now you know that's bullshit.

1000
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 2: Oh I let him go, but then I just happened

1001
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 2: to see the niggas that was going one hundred and

1002
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 2: forty one.

1003
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: See, if you.

1004
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 2: Pay attention, ain't no motherfuckering trying to trick you. Nowadays,

1005
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 2: they just flat out telling you. It's just about how

1006
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 2: they telling you. Man, that dude was chased. Listen, if

1007
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 2: he wasn't chased, it was something put together to track

1008
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 2: him or something. There's no way I'm going one hundred

1009
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 2: and forty one miles an hour, and then ten minutes

1010
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 2: later you just so happen to bump into me. Boy,

1011
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 2: they'll tell you anything if you ain't paying attention. So

1012
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 2: it says the deputy spotted the challenger while sitting at

1013
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 2: an intersection. So what they probably told him is that

1014
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 2: he's coming that way with not chasing him. But he

1015
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 2: ain't got but one way to go, So they probably

1016
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 2: sat at all the intersections, saw the car, got behind

1017
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 2: it again, but to say that they just let him ride.

1018
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 1: Come on, man.

1019
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 2: The deputy activated the patrol car like and resume pursuit.

1020
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 2: The challenger eventually pulled in a residential area and stopped.

1021
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 2: Doing the traffic stop, deputies reported smelled marijuana and noted

1022
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 2: Mitchell appeared confused. Doing a search of the car, deputies

1023
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 2: recovered eight ounces of marijuana, seven thousand and forty dollars

1024
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 2: in cash, a set of scales, a loaded nine millimeter

1025
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 2: The rest report says Crimson tid coach Nick Saban, he

1026
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 2: plays for him, said Monday after the first practice that

1027
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 2: Mitchell was suspended from the team and all team activities

1028
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 2: until we gather information about the situation and what his

1029
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 2: legal circumstances is. Another quote from Nick Saban, everybody got

1030
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 2: an opportunity to make choices and decisions. Saban said, there's

1031
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 2: no such thing as being in the wrong place at

1032
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 2: the wrong time. You got to be responsible for who

1033
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 2: you with, who you around, what you do, who you

1034
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 2: associate with, in the situation that you put yourself in.

1035
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 2: It is what it is, but there is cause and

1036
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 2: effect when you make choices and decisions that put you

1037
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 2: in bad situations. Mitchell, who was from Alabama, was a

1038
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 2: five year prospect and the thirty fourth best player and

1039
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 2: the number three safety in the rankings on this ship. Now,

1040
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 2: this is a classic case of going into the trick

1041
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 2: bag man, when the whole fight of life is to

1042
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 2: get something to live for, not something to die for.

1043
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 2: So I'm saying, we been having it wrong so long.

1044
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,439
Speaker 2: We'll get the thing in that man, we gotta find

1045
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 2: something to die for. I say, the biggest obstacle is

1046
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 2: life is getting the goal, getting you something to live for. Right,

1047
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 2: Everything that lives on that side of thinking, man, your family,

1048
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 2: your healthier, your love WANs, your love life, your friends,

1049
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 2: your homeboys, the game. You know what I'm saying that

1050
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 2: your interests, I A'll let it live on that side

1051
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 2: that shit you want to live for. You know, I

1052
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 2: think these young men are getting in situation. That's why

1053
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta pull pull closer into my children

1054
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 2: because they getting older.

1055
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying.

1056
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 2: I know they don't think I understand what I already understand.

1057
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, So they gonna try to

1058
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 2: run trigger it, but it ain't gonna work. The trigger

1059
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 2: it don't work. You understand me, The trigger it don't work,

1060
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 2: and then you have to explain to the young man

1061
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 2: see this. You know, I don't know. There's nothing to

1062
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 2: blame it on. You can't put yourself in these situations, right,

1063
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 2: So it's no need for me to get on my

1064
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 2: podcast and rationalize it, right, even though I do understand

1065
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 2: that correlation is and causation right. But at the same time,

1066
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 2: I don't need to rationalize these kind of decisions. I

1067
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 2: need the people that's watching to understand that when you

1068
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 2: get put in position, you gotta act like you and

1069
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 2: put in position. Really, you gotta act like you've been

1070
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 2: put in position before you get put in position, because

1071
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 2: we are creatures of habit and it's gonna be hard

1072
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 2: just to cut something on at the blink of a

1073
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 2: nine when you ain't used to working, and then millions

1074
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 2: you as for you finally got your chance.

1075
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: But guess what go with that?

1076
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 2: A whole bunch of working And if you ain't got

1077
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 2: that muscle up to work for it. If you ain't

1078
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 2: got the audacity to believe that you can go and

1079
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 2: get it, You're gonna be in a bad place. So

1080
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 2: I think we gotta start telling the young men it's

1081
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 2: okay to be dreamers. It's okay to believe that on

1082
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 2: the other side of working hard at this goal, that

1083
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 2: even if I don't make it, it's gonna open another

1084
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 2: door because I'm just that cold with it.

1085
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:46,439
Speaker 1: Nah.

1086
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 2: You know, my identity ain't wrapped around in one thing.

1087
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 2: I had to reinvent several times to be successful. Because

1088
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 2: you know, you might have got on something too late,

1089
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 2: you might not understand enough about this right, and you

1090
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 2: ain't perfect. Ain't nobody perfect. Don't let this Instagram trick

1091
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 2: you into believing folks perfect. Don't let social media and

1092
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 2: tiktoking these other YouTube with all this shit. Ain't nobody perfect.

1093
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 2: So we all battle things, we all go through things.

1094
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:20,919
Speaker 2: So I'm saying, but I want to focus on reality setting.

1095
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 1: In on this young man.

1096
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 2: Not only was he arrested, he didn't placed itself in

1097
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 2: a situation where he went full blown apologetic on the scene.

1098
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 2: He went full blown You know what I mean on

1099
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 2: the scene. Man, I can't do it.

1100
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 12: Check it out, really, first ball, I played football Alabama,

1101
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 12: like I know it.

1102
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 8: Niversity, sir, I know what.

1103
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 9: I got a rent serve like I didn't have none

1104
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 9: of that stuff over me.

1105
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 13: Sir, I'm a football player. Breaks down in tears after

1106
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 13: he led cops on a high speed chase and was

1107
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 13: arrested on charges of marijuana possession.

1108
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 14: Okay, sir, boss for careers book.

1109
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 13: Police body camera footage shows freshman defensive back Tony Mitchell

1110
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 13: and his wild traffic stop on March fifteenth in Holmes County, Florida.

1111
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 13: Official Saint Mitchell evaded police, driving at one hundred and

1112
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 13: forty one miles per hour to escape. When officers finally

1113
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 13: caught up with him and pulled him over, he denied

1114
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 13: the escape attempt.

1115
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 15: He didn't just run for me all I always said

1116
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 15: on uh.

1117
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 16: I don't even know you're saying it. It's like I said,

1118
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 16: I'm moving.

1119
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 15: I gotcha, ma'am.

1120
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 13: Body camera video then shows the officer asked Mitchell to

1121
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 13: place his keys on top of the car.

1122
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 15: Do you have a key ball to the car.

1123
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 10: Yeah, it is God the keys to the car. Yeah, yeah,

1124
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 10: Just give me a favor. If you don't mind, just

1125
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 10: put them on top of your roof so the nitition

1126
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 10: can't feel it. Just set them on top of your roof. Yeah,

1127
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:16,919
Speaker 10: just like that, Yeah.

1128
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 15: So the initial won't pick up on it.

1129
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 13: It's then that the officer asks Mitchell about marijuana for

1130
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 13: the first time.

1131
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 10: Do you have a medical marijuana card? Do you have

1132
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 10: a medical marijuana car? Because I smell marijuana coming from

1133
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 10: the vehicle? Okay, So do you have marijuana because I

1134
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 10: smell it? Are you having a hard time understanding what

1135
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 10: I'm saying?

1136
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 3: Why does it?

1137
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 16: I didn't know why you was asking me. Did I

1138
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:41,439
Speaker 16: have a car?

1139
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 15: Yeah?

1140
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 10: Because in Florida they do medical marijuana cars, but in

1141
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 10: Alabama they don't. It's just something I have to ask

1142
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 10: because I smell marijuana coming from the vehicle.

1143
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 15: All right, So here's the deal.

1144
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 10: As long as you're honest with me, I'm gonna work

1145
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 10: with you, okay, But if you're gonna lie to me,

1146
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 10: I have the right to do if I will call

1147
01:02:56,200 --> 01:03:00,080
Speaker 10: search right now, Okay.

1148
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 15: I do believe you are a vehicle that just ran

1149
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 15: from us. I didn't. Right, I'm gonna take care of

1150
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 15: your father right here and set it for to Trump.

1151
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 13: Eventually, Mitchell admits there is marijuana in the vehicle. After that,

1152
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 13: officers ask him to step out of the car.

1153
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 15: All right, man, so where's the weed at?

1154
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 2: And see here's the old school trick. Don't work too right,

1155
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 2: the old school tricker.

1156
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 1: So what going on? You mean to tell me I'm

1157
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:33,919
Speaker 1: gonna give you? Huh No, I really can't what you say.

1158
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 3: Man.

1159
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:36,919
Speaker 2: They got you now. It's just you man, will roll

1160
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 2: with it. They don't gat me, you know. At this point,

1161
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 2: I just think it's important to update how you move.

1162
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 2: A lot of y'all have started treating the police like

1163
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 2: the judge and then ain't how you do it?

1164
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 1: Pay attention.

1165
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 15: That's a chance to be honest. Swimming for her?

1166
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 16: Oh I didn't run from the services.

1167
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 15: Are you sure about that?

1168
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 10: Because there was two of us there when you pass

1169
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 10: that church? All right, do me a favorite?

1170
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 15: Step out?

1171
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 13: Step out for body camera. Video then shows the officer

1172
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 13: searching Mitchell, come back here.

1173
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 15: You ain't got nothing else illegal? Will Is that everything?

1174
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 1: Why would? Here's the thing, bro?

1175
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 2: If I got a contract, I ain't handing you a

1176
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 2: motherfucking thing. Man, It's finna be a fight to the

1177
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 2: bidder end I'm not finna sitting. I'm not handing him nothing.

1178
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 2: Two people in the car, I'm the star. Fear me,

1179
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 2: I'm already in hot water. When he says smell marijuana,

1180
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 2: you really gotta say you don't got my consent to surgence, Sir,

1181
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 2: I don't know what you're talking about smelling marijuana?

1182
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 1: Respectfully?

1183
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 2: Well, you know it feel like I think I'm smelling

1184
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 2: marijuana coming out the car. Well, sir, I'm respectfully, I'm

1185
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 2: not sure if you're an expert at you know, smelling marijuana.

1186
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 2: Do they got courses on that experts on smelling marijuana?

1187
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 10: Sir?

1188
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 2: How you know I ain't riding with him and him

1189
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 2: is a legal in a lot of places, or how

1190
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,439
Speaker 2: you know I ain't riding with now, Sir? I don't

1191
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 2: know nothing about know marijuana, Sir. You know, when you're

1192
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 2: trying to get over, you gotta throw that, sir in

1193
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 2: Sir is always a yeah when you're trying to get

1194
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 2: over on somebody that can take you away, Sir, I

1195
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 2: don't know what you're talking about, sir. Nigga ain't said sir,

1196
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 2: twenty years. Soon he get involved with somebody, get take

1197
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 2: his motherfucking head to the dungeon, sir. I'm not sure

1198
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 2: what you're talking about, sir. Are you seriously, sir? You

1199
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 2: seriously gonna do this to me?

1200
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 1: Sir, sir? Is that seriously what you gonna do to

1201
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 1: us out here?

1202
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 10: Sir?

1203
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 2: That is not straight, sir. You know they nigga trying

1204
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 2: to wig a lot of some shit. But nah, I

1205
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 2: just don't know, like for him to hand it to them,

1206
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 2: I think they might have nailed them to the cross

1207
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 2: for you for him to say.

1208
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 1: Is it in the weed in here? This is what

1209
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 1: niggas don't get.

1210
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 3: For him to.

1211
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 2: Say, Hey, listen, man, you work with me. I'm gonna

1212
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 2: work with you. You supposed to make the deal and then, well,

1213
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 2: what you mean work with me?

1214
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 1: Sir? You know what you mean? You know what does

1215
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 1: that mean? Well?

1216
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 2: If I if you tell me that's a weed, I

1217
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 2: give a citation, when that might be a.

1218
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:26,959
Speaker 1: Deal you want to take.

1219
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 2: You know you don't do no tailling now, ain't no

1220
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 2: tailling involved.

1221
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 1: But far as you know, if.

1222
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 2: A nigga might say, I give you a citation. But

1223
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 2: most time these niggas ain't the police. People ain't looking

1224
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 2: at for you. This way, you gotta be in the

1225
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 2: street loan or to understand that trick. A lot of

1226
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 2: y'all who don't understand how do judicial system work. Y'all

1227
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 2: deal with the police like they the judge. And so

1228
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 2: you talk to motherfucking much and you do too.

1229
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 3: Mother.

1230
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 2: You down there making deals with a nigga who got

1231
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 2: a badge on. He ain't even the deal maker. I

1232
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 2: need to make get a plee from the nigga with

1233
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 2: the roll bomb, not with the badge on. So there's

1234
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 2: a there's a difference, and I need to say this

1235
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 2: for you, for those of you that operate outside of

1236
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 2: the law, I need to make clear that I believe

1237
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 2: it's one of the dumbest things you can do. If

1238
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 2: you got some money, go left. But if that's your thing,

1239
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 2: I need y'all to understand it. There's a difference of

1240
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 2: how you handle the situation with the dude with the

1241
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 2: badge versus the.

1242
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 1: Dude with the role. Now the dude with the robe.

1243
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 2: If sometimes you gotta get low, get out them people wave.

1244
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 2: But the nigga with the badge, I ain't. We ain't

1245
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 2: got nothing to talk about me and you with the bags,

1246
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 2: I'm not. We ain't got If I'm a cry the

1247
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 2: nigga with the badge don't get to see that, cause

1248
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 2: he can't change in no way. He ain't nothing he

1249
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 2: can do. Whatever f gonna happen to Judge, got to

1250
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 2: see me, he gonna start trying to pleet with the

1251
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 2: motherfucking police.

1252
01:07:58,000 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 1: Pay attention.

1253
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 10: Okay, all right, sat back here to the front of

1254
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 10: my all. You ain't got nothing on the you do,

1255
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 10: all right? It's the chance right here for him. That's

1256
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 10: want to make sure of.

1257
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 15: Man, what's in favor right now?

1258
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 3: You're not under rest.

1259
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 15: You're gonna be a change the chance. Whey back for.

1260
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 1: Him that corner before we get into this.

1261
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 2: I also want to make it clear that the police

1262
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:31,600
Speaker 2: just told him I'll work with and again, what I

1263
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 2: think may get him nailed in this case is he

1264
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 2: acknowledged it right and saying, man, listen, man, I work

1265
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 2: with you. Let me say, let me say something to you.

1266
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 2: I'll work with you, dude. You know if you if

1267
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 2: you be honest with me, I work with you. Is

1268
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,759
Speaker 2: there any marijuana in here? Because I'm in a situation

1269
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 2: to be able to smell it, and I believe that

1270
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 2: it's marijuana in this car.

1271
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 1: And the first thing you do is the star.

1272
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 2: Of a college football team with a chance to break

1273
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:01,719
Speaker 2: our generational curses.

1274
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 1: First thing you do is this right there? Give me

1275
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 1: the weed right there, right there? I see do It.

1276
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 2: Seemed like dude was over trying to be like, man,

1277
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 2: what are you talking about?

1278
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 1: Family? What are you talking about?

1279
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 2: Not the weed? The weed, bro, nigga? Damn, you just

1280
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 2: gonna we just gone like that. You're gonna just do

1281
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 2: us like that, the weed, bro. I'm gonna made a

1282
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 2: deal for both of us. The weed. Get the weed

1283
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 2: right there, the weed right there? Yeah, get the weed.

1284
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 2: But the trick, Paul, was you reaching that? Get the

1285
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 2: weed handed to him? First thing he said, all right,

1286
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 2: step out the car, put your hands behind your back.

1287
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 2: What damn you just told the niggas you were working

1288
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 2: with him. But I can ain't no working with you. You

1289
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 2: can just work for me, right police, don't work with

1290
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 2: you niggas. That be the problem y'all. Get y'all think

1291
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 2: y'all making deals with the devil. You can't make a

1292
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 2: deal with the devil when winning, nigga, So you going

1293
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 2: make a deal who I'm gonna work which I'm gonna

1294
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 2: tell you where it's at. See, because he might would

1295
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 2: have win in it without your permission, and that could

1296
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 2: have beat the case.

1297
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 1: Just certain things.

1298
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 2: When these dudes ain't come from it, they ain't spend

1299
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 2: no money on these lawyers. We done figure it out.

1300
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 2: Now these lawyers are charging niggas to send them to prison.

1301
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 2: So we're starting to figure out all the common sense

1302
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 2: the lawing.

1303
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 1: All this got to add up. Man.

1304
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 2: They can't keep sending us to prison and ain't got

1305
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 2: nothing to on us. We can't keep letting us do

1306
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 2: them like right, But this dude right here reach and

1307
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 2: grab it.

1308
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 1: I think that was a mistake.

1309
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 2: But now you finish see the breakdown because he just

1310
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:38,640
Speaker 2: made a deal with the police and they grab his

1311
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 2: funk asd and bringing him out the car anyway, And

1312
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 2: when they bring him out to car, now he looking

1313
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 2: like damn, I thought we had a deal and they ain't.

1314
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 2: Finnah going to weeping. Yeah, take a certain kind of

1315
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 2: nigga that carr regunn marijuana and be going a hunting

1316
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 2: and forty and go to weeping when the police pulled

1317
01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 2: him over.

1318
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 1: See why I'm then why I'm so glad I got

1319
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 1: out of this ship.

1320
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 2: These niggas that have a Draco on them bout the outfit,

1321
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,520
Speaker 2: just trying to look cool and get pulled.

1322
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 1: Over and go to weeping man, pay attention.

1323
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 13: Road whole.

1324
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 15: Yeah you would. Now you ain't under the rest. You're

1325
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 15: gonna be detained because I just chase that car.

1326
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 13: As the traffic stop continues, it becomes apparent there's more

1327
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 13: marijuana in the vehicle.

1328
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 15: Okay, that's more weeds. How much weed y'all got? How

1329
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:44,719
Speaker 15: much more radio got? Am I gonna find anything else?

1330
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 2: Go ahead about see his again where you thought they

1331
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 2: were gonna do? See they watching power? I blame fifty cent.

1332
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 2: Shout out fifty but I blame fifty cent for this

1333
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 2: kind of shit. They watching power where the police will

1334
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 2: pull up. You make a quick little deal here man,

1335
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 2: he go a nine piece, You hit him a half

1336
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 2: a brick, A boy out a half a bricker, half

1337
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 2: run out the one and he.

1338
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 1: Just taking it all right, You get out of here.

1339
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 2: Now you just showed them. Now they got Now we're

1340
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:19,719
Speaker 2: definitely going in the car. But these young boys putting

1341
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 2: themself in these situations not knowing what this spect so

1342
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 2: he don't know that they just at this point when

1343
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:29,600
Speaker 2: they pull you over, they need probable calls.

1344
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 1: They damn they need cooperation.

1345
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,640
Speaker 2: Because the smell thing is smell thing might not be

1346
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 2: good enough, and smell thing get murky when it get

1347
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 2: in court.

1348
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 1: You understand, depending on where you were, depending.

1349
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 2: On the laws, like, it's just right, and so sometimes

1350
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 2: they don't move offat That's why they be trying to

1351
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:54,679
Speaker 2: get your cooperation, because if you smell weed.

1352
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 1: Guess what message to you young niggas out there.

1353
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 2: If you pull me over over, officer, and you smell weed,

1354
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 2: and you got a right to get me out of

1355
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:09,679
Speaker 2: the car, guess what the first thing the officer gonna say, Yep, sir,

1356
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 2: step out the car. Ain't finna be no talking about Hey, man,

1357
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 2: talk to me. Look, listen, if you be honest with me,

1358
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:19,520
Speaker 2: I'll be honest with y'all. Man, listen, you got the authority.

1359
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 2: That's great. If you what you saying is law, you

1360
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:24,679
Speaker 2: can grab me out the car. Like if you see

1361
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 2: an aar on my back seat, you ain't got to say, sir,

1362
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 2: is that an aar?

1363
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:30,680
Speaker 1: Let me talk to you. I'll make a deal with you.

1364
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:31,680
Speaker 1: If you be honest with me.

1365
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 2: Is that a damn aar that I see in the

1366
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 2: back seat right there? Pay attention when they asking these

1367
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 2: kind of questions, they need some form of cooperation for

1368
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 2: it to go smooth with the paperwork. Now they can

1369
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 2: do it without it. But again it get murky in court.

1370
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 2: There is a certain point again when you're dealing with

1371
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 2: the man with the roe, because I don't want to

1372
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 2: hang y'all allowed to drive there. When you get in

1373
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 2: there with the man with the row. Sometimes you gotta

1374
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 2: really do make a deseason and be like, damn, I'm

1375
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:03,679
Speaker 2: facing twenty five. They telling me about the five right quick?

1376
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 2: Gota been locked up two years on it. I might

1377
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 2: got to do another year or something if I cop out,

1378
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:12,720
Speaker 2: But the case kind of weak. But I'm facing a

1379
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 2: twenty five. Fuck it, I make it deal. I'm cleaning guild.

1380
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 2: Time out, get out these people.

1381
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 3: Wait.

1382
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 2: Sometimes you gotta make them kind of decisions. Pay attention though.

1383
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:26,799
Speaker 2: This is what things get slippery.

1384
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 15: How much wait is that? Do you have the fire

1385
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:35,680
Speaker 15: arms where she's on the side, it's on side. You

1386
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 15: have a still weapon? Ferm it it's not mine? Do

1387
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:41,760
Speaker 15: you ever still weapons? Ferm for? Do you ever still weapon?

1388
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 3: From?

1389
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 15: Where is it?

1390
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 2: And see they're separator? I won't y'all is looking on Patreon.

1391
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 2: Look at this. They then separated the two individuals. Right,

1392
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 2: seem like one of them gone here. And I'm going

1393
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 2: on with it, man, you know what I mean. I'm

1394
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 2: going on with my move. I'm finished. Tell them what

1395
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 2: they need to know.

1396
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1397
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 2: If you think he's gonna get a break, you don't

1398
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 2: get no break. They don't show love. They pencil whooping you.

1399
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 2: They doing it with a smile to their hug and

1400
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 2: sell y'all. Man, it's a dirty world down there in

1401
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 2: the corner. There ain't no love down there. You gotta

1402
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 2: check and read check. I heard some podcasters talking about yo,

1403
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 2: pay your lawyer and go chill. I wish I would

1404
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 2: ever send a lawyer some money and go chill where

1405
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 2: I come from. For these lawyers ain't gonna do nothing

1406
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 2: but take your money. But if you ain't been through it,

1407
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 2: you don't know. You just assume. But say you can

1408
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 2: really crack the cold before your lawyer cracked the cold

1409
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 2: and start nudging them in there, Right, that's what you

1410
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:50,799
Speaker 2: And I'm talking sixty grand for a lady and still

1411
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:53,599
Speaker 2: gotta going there. I'm talking about the kind of lawyer

1412
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 2: where you got the kind of money where you hanging

1413
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 2: in private investigators and really going to try where it's

1414
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 2: costing them their ninety bands. And you still gotta get

1415
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:06,720
Speaker 2: on your lawyer. Ass Hey, you ain't saying this way.

1416
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:07,679
Speaker 2: How this makes sense?

1417
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 16: Man?

1418
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 1: You got it.

1419
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 2: You gotta be on them. You gotta be on them.

1420
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 2: But it seemed like one of these dudes read the

1421
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 2: gun sell out. Look man, it's weed in there. Say

1422
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,439
Speaker 2: it's a gun. He talking low too, because you know it,

1423
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 2: boll is it a gun in there? Police talking high?

1424
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 2: Is it a gun in the car? Sert any fire

1425
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 2: arms in the car?

1426
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:30,599
Speaker 1: That's a little fire mobile. Where is it at? Sir said?

1427
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 2: You know on the side, how much more weed is

1428
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 2: it in there? They probably about a hundred more, you

1429
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. He trying to talk lower. And

1430
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 2: then the other nigga, I think it's in the NFL

1431
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 2: or trying to go to the league.

1432
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 1: You can see him breaking down back there. Pay attention.

1433
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:56,959
Speaker 10: On that side, you can, yeah.

1434
01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 15: He says on the path, that's not your gun. You

1435
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 15: understand the car it's not yours.

1436
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:06,440
Speaker 13: Officials later discovered two hundred and twenty six grams of marijuana,

1437
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 13: seven thousand dollars cash, and a loaded gun in the vehicle.

1438
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 13: Mitchell's passenger, Christopher Lewis, is also taken out of the vehicle.

1439
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:17,719
Speaker 13: When officers detained both of them, Mitchell begins to cry,

1440
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 13: can you put him in.

1441
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 15: The back of your car? Okay? Way? Can you put

1442
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 15: him in the back of your car and search on?

1443
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:26,760
Speaker 15: You ain't under arrest right now. I'm okay, Hey, it's

1444
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 15: gonna be okay.

1445
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 8: Listen, No, I love this.

1446
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 15: You're just detinaned. Okay, he's put them back your car.

1447
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 13: Your second officials speak with Mitchell.

1448
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 2: I was right the nigga in the black soul in

1449
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 2: mine nay telling me? You know I love you?

1450
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 3: Bro?

1451
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 1: What you mean you love me?

1452
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 15: Nigga?

1453
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 2: You just told him all that? Hey, you telling me

1454
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 2: you loved me? I don't know who start it is?

1455
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 2: Was that why I'm trying to tell y'all. Man pay

1456
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 2: attention man.

1457
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:50,639
Speaker 13: First and read him his Miranda rights.

1458
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 10: I just gotta read this to you. It's just our

1459
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 10: policy because you are in handcuffs. Okay, then the lieutenant

1460
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:57,680
Speaker 10: here will answer any questions you may have.

1461
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 15: All right. You do have the right to remain silent.

1462
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 15: If Jesus give out that right.

1463
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 10: Anything said can't be used against you and for you

1464
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 10: have the right to have an attorney with you prior to, during,

1465
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 10: or after answer any questions.

1466
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 13: After that, Mitchell tells investigators none of the marijuana is his,

1467
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 13: as he continues to break down in tears.

1468
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 15: I'm only a.

1469
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 8: Pretty decent judging character, that isn't you?

1470
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 15: Right?

1471
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 3: Yes?

1472
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 15: There that is bus Like.

1473
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 16: I really can't even talk right now because like you

1474
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:32,680
Speaker 16: don't have to talk. Man, I'm sorry, none of that's

1475
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 16: I swear.

1476
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 17: Like I heard you tell you bloody earlier that you

1477
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 17: could call you daddy. All right, I'm a daddy too.

1478
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 17: I'm what you can call it.

1479
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 8: He might be mad at you, but you can call it.

1480
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 16: What is sir?

1481
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 15: Like first, I.

1482
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:57,680
Speaker 9: Played football Alabella and like I known like the University Albancer.

1483
01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 9: I know what, I've got a ratler like I didn't

1484
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 9: have none of that.

1485
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:02,599
Speaker 16: Stuff over.

1486
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:05,720
Speaker 15: That.

1487
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 8: Other boys actually gonna step up and say what's his

1488
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 8: j I know that's his gun too. I could tell

1489
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:17,680
Speaker 8: because you didn't know what it was. Now, look on

1490
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:19,599
Speaker 8: his face when you said gun. Told me you didn't

1491
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 8: know there was a gun that car.

1492
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 15: So it's hard. It's alright man, right man, what's your

1493
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 15: first name?

1494
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 2: As you see him break it down, and it's really

1495
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:42,720
Speaker 2: sad because you can see his dreams being shattered, right,

1496
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 2: and it's like, damn, he thinking about now I'm calling

1497
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 2: this and we got to be better in our plan

1498
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 2: and we got to be better in our preparation. That's

1499
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 2: what we're winning at. That's what we that's where all

1500
01:19:54,200 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 2: things are waning. All things are conquered in the preparation, right.

1501
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 2: And so we can't, you know what I'm saying, We

1502
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 2: can't freestyle when we got a lot on the line.

1503
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:06,719
Speaker 2: You don't think I be wanting to go do certain

1504
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 2: things that I used to do with can't. I can't

1505
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:12,559
Speaker 2: do it right. Certain shit that I can't do it,

1506
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 2: I just ain't. It just ain't gonna allow me to

1507
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 2: do certain things because of the way I'm I gotta move.

1508
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:20,639
Speaker 2: But you see him starting to break down. He didn't

1509
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 2: know the gun was there. They they believe that he

1510
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 2: don't know the gun was there. But he nothing they

1511
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 2: can do. It's well, he ain't understanding. Now it's on

1512
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 2: your man to say all this is mine, knowing that

1513
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 2: you're in that situation. Now it's on the guy and

1514
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 2: the cow with him to say, yo, all this mine, man,

1515
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 2: let's let's slime go.

1516
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 1: That's me, that's on us, that's me, that's me. Let

1517
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 1: bruk go. He don't even know.

1518
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 2: He ain't even know, even though they say they can

1519
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 2: smell it when they let the winder down, even though

1520
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 2: I think he reached for the first batcher right there,

1521
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:51,880
Speaker 2: brother Weed, get the wig.

1522
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 8: All money is in that car. There's thousands of dollars.

1523
01:20:57,360 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 16: I had a thousand. I had a thousand personally.

1524
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 18: All the rest of the money his his, like, all

1525
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 18: the all the money besides the thousand going. And it's

1526
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:09,760
Speaker 18: my car, like, that's a brand new car that I

1527
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 18: just got from my recent very day.

1528
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 12: We can tell it's a new car. And it's fast too.

1529
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 12: We get that. Look, man, here's the thing we're we're

1530
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 12: gonna give due to the chance just to step up

1531
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 12: and say that who do the pels to belong to?

1532
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:32,439
Speaker 8: The fantasort bild And there's yours are just his. They're

1533
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:34,720
Speaker 8: an all controlled substance. I just need to know if

1534
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:39,600
Speaker 8: those are actually yours descriptions or if those are his pill.

1535
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 19: They're green pills, lime green colored pills there for like anxiety. Here,

1536
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 19: whose shoes are in the back of the card.

1537
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 8: The black shoes.

1538
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 15: Those mine and I got.

1539
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:58,680
Speaker 18: I had the pair of Jordans, the Nikes and the

1540
01:21:58,720 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 18: black shoes.

1541
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 8: Okay, insall those shoes with the bag and it's got

1542
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 8: some lying.

1543
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:03,599
Speaker 3: Green peak a gun.

1544
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 13: Ron Mitchell Layer tells officers it was Lewis's idea to quote,

1545
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 13: punch it and speed off from officers.

1546
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:13,719
Speaker 15: Okay, I ask you a question, man, I'm not going

1547
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:15,720
Speaker 15: to charge it. Look forward or anything like that.

1548
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 8: Okay, I'm just looking man, you got our word.

1549
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm not going to charge you for it. Were

1550
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:25,600
Speaker 15: y'all thinking about Fossooly running again on me when he

1551
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:29,640
Speaker 15: turned down Indiana? Why did it takes you long forever? Man?

1552
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:33,599
Speaker 15: But those yours are certain, like, hey, was he driving

1553
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 15: or was he here?

1554
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 3: I was driving?

1555
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 16: I wasn't.

1556
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:40,639
Speaker 15: Yeah I was driving, okay, so so.

1557
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 2: Just like I thought he was driving. So he was

1558
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 2: the first one to sell it out right there. And

1559
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 2: then dude, just start man some motion and it's a

1560
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 2: gun and there, oh man, this one. I'm trying to

1561
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 2: teat this why man, it's rough. It's rough on y'all

1562
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 2: out there trying to wrestle with that ship.

1563
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 20: Man.

1564
01:22:57,160 --> 01:22:59,639
Speaker 18: But like for what I was gonna say, like, hey,

1565
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 18: I been in this like situation before, and like with everything,

1566
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 18: he was just telling me to go and like like I.

1567
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 15: Ain't, So that's why you do. You just paint and

1568
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 15: punched it a head, look like I did.

1569
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:10,720
Speaker 16: It's hard.

1570
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 10: I'm not gonna charge it work, okay, because you're being

1571
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:15,840
Speaker 10: honest with me, I will say you out ran me,

1572
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 10: like pretty bad that.

1573
01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 15: He'll say, I.

1574
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 16: Never drove that card out.

1575
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 10: It's a schedule, Oh is it?

1576
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 15: Okay? I thought it because man, I can hear you

1577
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:28,360
Speaker 15: whenever I turned around, you doune did miss just that

1578
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 15: and will Yeah. Man, I ain't gonna charge with leading

1579
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 15: a loude or anything like that.

1580
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 3: Okay.

1581
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 15: I appreciate your hard Yeah, I will have to thought

1582
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 15: either my thought. We have to tell it, but I

1583
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 15: ain't gonna seize it. Okay, gotta get told it may

1584
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 15: oh yeah.

1585
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:47,760
Speaker 10: Yeah, we don't know it may it may, but but regardless,

1586
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 10: you're still gonna be able to get it back.

1587
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:51,600
Speaker 15: I'm not holding it. I'm keeping it from me.

1588
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 13: As the discussion continues, Mitchell asks what will happen if

1589
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 13: his friend admits to everything.

1590
01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 16: I got a question. Yeah, so he did like up

1591
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 16: to everything, like.

1592
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 15: What I would I be.

1593
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:08,839
Speaker 8: If he owns up to it's gonna be his decision.

1594
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 8: But if he owns up to it.

1595
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 16: But like you say, that was that happened my carb skin?

1596
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 10: After be told, Well, because we'll listen, we'll go from there.

1597
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:20,639
Speaker 10: But I can't tell you are under the influence of marijuana.

1598
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 10: So I will not let you drive it, but we

1599
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 10: will call your parents and we call somebody come get

1600
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:29,559
Speaker 10: you in the vehicle. I know that sounds bad, but well,

1601
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 10: I'll be honest, man, whenever I first, how about that?

1602
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 15: So we'll check you out a favor. Let's figure it out.

1603
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 17: Though you're having a hard time and I don't understand

1604
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 17: where you're at.

1605
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:46,639
Speaker 13: But when officers speak to Lewis, they hear a different story.

1606
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:49,760
Speaker 15: What about the marijuana that's in the vehicle? Is that

1607
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 15: yours or his?

1608
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 16: I'm just a passive I just got in a car.

1609
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 15: With my tho.

1610
01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:57,080
Speaker 10: So y'all know nothing about the marijuana. What about the

1611
01:24:57,080 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 10: fire on? Oh no, good, you y'all know you's done that.

1612
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 2: This man they sell each other out every time, every

1613
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:08,840
Speaker 2: single time they sell each other out, spelling when they're

1614
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 2: young like this, They ain't got no years and this shit.

1615
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:12,799
Speaker 1: They ain't never stood on nothing.

1616
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:16,760
Speaker 2: So every time they sell each other out, it never

1617
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 2: it never ceases to amaze me, every time they sell

1618
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:22,479
Speaker 2: each other out.

1619
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 1: As you see now you got one day his shit,

1620
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 1: all man, it's his shit. I don't know.

1621
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 2: I was just a passenger. I just get in his car.

1622
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 2: I don't know what the boy would doing. The boy

1623
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:32,639
Speaker 2: might have been having a bomb, nuclear weapon.

1624
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:33,599
Speaker 1: Hell, I don't know.

1625
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 2: I just got in the car. What a gun on

1626
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 2: your side? Man, I don't know nothing about no gun.

1627
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 2: They do here in college. They don't make you fuck

1628
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:46,519
Speaker 2: niggas like they used to. I can tell you that.

1629
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:51,599
Speaker 10: Pay attention, okay, Because he's saying it's not his, it's

1630
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 10: not manka, marijuana's not his.

1631
01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 13: When officers report this information back to Mitchell, he breaks

1632
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 13: down once again.

1633
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:03,840
Speaker 10: Unfortunately, he's denying. I'm not charging anything with the gun.

1634
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 10: He's catching the gun charge, but he's denying the marijuana. Okay,

1635
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 10: I swear there's everything. There's nothing I can do on that, okay,

1636
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 10: because it is a felony. I have no discretion of

1637
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 10: the felon is with the pills. That's possession of new

1638
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:20,920
Speaker 10: new drug. That's a misdemeanor.

1639
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 15: I can work with that, okay, but I cannot work

1640
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 15: with a felony. Say, afforder does not allow me to.

1641
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 16: What you mean by that.

1642
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 10: That much marijuana is a felony in the stake aforda okay,

1643
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:40,599
Speaker 10: this possession marijuana with intent to distribute. Y'all have almost

1644
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:45,599
Speaker 10: a pound. Okay, so he's not taking it. I tried

1645
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 10: to talking to him, so, Lieutenant.

1646
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:55,639
Speaker 21: Okay, charging, but I ain't got a choice on that, Sir, Sir,

1647
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:58,800
Speaker 21: Please please listen to the sir, please, I.

1648
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 15: Understand, trust me. It's the last thing I wanted to do.

1649
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 16: Okay, Sir.

1650
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 14: I can't, sir, certain where I came from my career. Sir, Province, Oh.

1651
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:21,640
Speaker 15: I understand that. Let me talk to you. Should just

1652
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:22,679
Speaker 15: sit tight for me, okay.

1653
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:26,600
Speaker 13: Mitchell and Lewis, we're both charged with possession of marijuana

1654
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:29,040
Speaker 13: and intend to sell and or distribute.

1655
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:31,800
Speaker 2: I just think as individuals, we got to learn from

1656
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 2: those things, right. We got to put ourselves in a

1657
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 2: position to what we no longer fall victim to getting

1658
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 2: into things that we can't get out of or that

1659
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 2: will not content with whatever happened. One thing about me,

1660
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:45,639
Speaker 2: and that's a lot of the reason why I didn't

1661
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 2: stretch out as far as I really could have, as

1662
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 2: well as I was willing to go to jail for

1663
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 2: having much time. Like I knew, I couldn't snitch anew

1664
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 2: certain things because I grew up a certain way. My

1665
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:59,200
Speaker 2: children didn't come up like that. They don't know bad

1666
01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 2: about it, but I come up a certain way. So

1667
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:05,719
Speaker 2: that's why it's so dangerous sticking your toe in that water.

1668
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:06,799
Speaker 1: You gotta be careful.

1669
01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 2: But let's take a look at something that I've seen online.

1670
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 2: For those of you looking at the video, all right,

1671
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 2: let's speak about this Tianna Taylor when it shot a

1672
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:20,720
Speaker 2: podcast and sat with Andrew Martinez.

1673
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 1: She been killing the in real life.

1674
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 2: If you haven't heard that podcast, it's been having real

1675
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 2: conversations and we want to add to the space in

1676
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 2: that way as well, So shout out to her. Tianna

1677
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:34,679
Speaker 2: Taylor went over there, man, she spoke about some things,

1678
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna play some of it.

1679
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 3: You know.

1680
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 2: I like to speak to when our women in our

1681
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 2: culture come out and speak right because their fight is

1682
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 2: a little bit different than ours, and a lot of

1683
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:48,160
Speaker 2: times their fight is much more rougher than ours, and

1684
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 2: they're much more loyal to the calls than we are.

1685
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:57,759
Speaker 2: They really are intentional oftentimes, like if they can buy black,

1686
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 2: like they'll take that extra eighteen minutes and drive to

1687
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 2: that store, when most times we'll just be like, yo,

1688
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 2: it's a convenience thing.

1689
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:09,400
Speaker 1: Time is money, you know, time is our inventory. We

1690
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 1: gotta stay right.

1691
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 2: And so they they're a little bit more, you know,

1692
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:14,640
Speaker 2: with the cause, and so not only that, just for

1693
01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 2: a lot of reasons why I like to listen to

1694
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 2: the women talk in our culture on black women, really

1695
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:24,200
Speaker 2: women in general, because it's so interesting, right, especially in

1696
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:27,160
Speaker 2: it's entertainment space and growing up in this space, and

1697
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:32,360
Speaker 2: something about sitting with Andrew Martinez gets the best interviews

1698
01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:35,920
Speaker 2: out of these women. I remember JT sat over there

1699
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:39,280
Speaker 2: and I celebrated black love when she spoke about it.

1700
01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 2: I've seen kim Ka sit over there and it was

1701
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 2: a beautiful conversation. I've seen again Tianna Taylor, I've seen

1702
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:50,520
Speaker 2: Lord London. You know, I've seen so many different individuals

1703
01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:53,120
Speaker 2: sit over there and give that real conversation that we

1704
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:56,120
Speaker 2: all appreciate. And she's able to just sit down and

1705
01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:58,160
Speaker 2: chop it up with him. And I'm gonna get there.

1706
01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:00,960
Speaker 2: I gotta study her a little bit more and study

1707
01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:03,360
Speaker 2: just her way of communication, because I believe how she's

1708
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:06,800
Speaker 2: doing podcasting in that way is just so dope.

1709
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 1: So we celebrate her first.

1710
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 2: When I look at Tianna Taylor, it gives me somebody

1711
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:16,280
Speaker 2: that could have gave up, but they didn't, that waited long,

1712
01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:20,639
Speaker 2: but had to wait longer. See, that's the thing when

1713
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 2: you go to God and there's something happening in your

1714
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:26,240
Speaker 2: life where you say, man, I've been waiting Lord. They

1715
01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 2: said be patient, but this feels like waiting Lord, patience

1716
01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 2: means something is coming.

1717
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:32,679
Speaker 1: Lord.

1718
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 2: It feels like I ain't nothing coming? So am I

1719
01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 2: waiting on? Am I being patient? I'm getting confused? And

1720
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:41,680
Speaker 2: so as a creator, as a young ender, you go

1721
01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:44,000
Speaker 2: through that and you gotta fight through that and say, nah,

1722
01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:47,160
Speaker 2: I know something coming because what I put in the

1723
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 2: wash got to come out in the rents. The universe

1724
01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:52,600
Speaker 2: is obedient, so whatever I'm putting in it. But you

1725
01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:55,479
Speaker 2: get lost in that and I know that feeling I

1726
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:57,679
Speaker 2: know coming through them tunnels where it's dog.

1727
01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:00,920
Speaker 1: Nobody in your family made that kind of money, So you.

1728
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:03,400
Speaker 2: Sure you you you sure you ain't making a mistake

1729
01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:07,280
Speaker 2: everybody in your family got a job. They work at

1730
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:10,200
Speaker 2: the trash company, they work at the library, they work

1731
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:13,080
Speaker 2: at the school, they work at the state build and

1732
01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:14,799
Speaker 2: everybody you sure you're gonna.

1733
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 1: Go entrepreneur, We ain't never seen it happen in your family.

1734
01:31:18,479 --> 01:31:20,559
Speaker 2: You sure that's what you're willing to do, But you

1735
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 2: gotta look up and say, listen, I've studied everything that

1736
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:24,000
Speaker 2: has something.

1737
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:25,080
Speaker 1: To do with it because of y'all.

1738
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:28,519
Speaker 2: Y'all had me scared of my future when y'all couldn't

1739
01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 2: even understand where I was going. They'll scare you out

1740
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:37,200
Speaker 2: of going somewhere they never been. They'll scare you out

1741
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:38,479
Speaker 2: of going somewhere they never.

1742
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 1: You sure you're going entrepreneur.

1743
01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:42,000
Speaker 2: If I was you, I pray you you need to

1744
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 2: try to go find They'll scare you out of chasing

1745
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:50,000
Speaker 2: your dreams. But you gotta be smart enough to look

1746
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:51,880
Speaker 2: at life. I look at the life of the people

1747
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:56,160
Speaker 2: that didn't chase their dreams. I remember being a young boy,

1748
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:59,280
Speaker 2: and I'll get to Tianna Taylor, but you know, I

1749
01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:01,439
Speaker 2: like to just talk to y'all. But I remember being

1750
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:03,200
Speaker 2: a young boy, and I knew a couple of dudes

1751
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 2: that got a job early. And I know this don't

1752
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:11,919
Speaker 2: sound like much, but keep up. Say you're making fifteen dollars,

1753
01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 2: sixteen dollars and we fifteen, we sixteen. You thinking, man,

1754
01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:21,000
Speaker 2: I'm sixteen. If I work here till I'm thirty six,

1755
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:24,639
Speaker 2: I can retire and they give you a dollar raise,

1756
01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:27,160
Speaker 2: two dollar raise every year. I might be at You know,

1757
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 2: I had young men that I knew that had that

1758
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:35,840
Speaker 2: thinking that because they hurry up and got a quick job,

1759
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:41,479
Speaker 2: it possibly interfered with their entire life because they tapped

1760
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:43,240
Speaker 2: out quick up.

1761
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:44,320
Speaker 1: I found what I'm doing.

1762
01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:47,840
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, because in twenty years what

1763
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:51,080
Speaker 2: you did at sixteen, just picture that still doing the

1764
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:53,799
Speaker 2: same thing you did at sixteen at.

1765
01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:57,839
Speaker 1: Twenty nine in that same building.

1766
01:32:57,920 --> 01:32:59,600
Speaker 2: Like, I don't know if you're gonna want to do that,

1767
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:01,680
Speaker 2: or if life gonna even allow you to do that.

1768
01:33:01,720 --> 01:33:04,200
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is sometimes you can get it

1769
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:11,840
Speaker 2: too early, can and it can affect you. Somebody that

1770
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:14,479
Speaker 2: get their plate brought to them can never understand somebody

1771
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:16,320
Speaker 2: that has to hunt for the food that they get.

1772
01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:19,320
Speaker 2: You never been down in the dirt and uncertain about

1773
01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:22,680
Speaker 2: the next meal. You always had somebody preparing in the

1774
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:27,600
Speaker 2: kitchen for you. You ain't never created no dough for opportunity

1775
01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:29,920
Speaker 2: to knock on. You always been on the other side

1776
01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:33,439
Speaker 2: of somebody best wishes, always on the other side of

1777
01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:37,679
Speaker 2: somebody else playing. They've always incorporated you into something. That's

1778
01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:40,080
Speaker 2: why you don't resonate like me, because I fucking with

1779
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:42,599
Speaker 2: the niggas that got left out that when it created

1780
01:33:42,640 --> 01:33:47,559
Speaker 2: their own, the ones like QCP, the ones like jay Z,

1781
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:51,519
Speaker 2: the ones like Little Baby, the ones like Charlemagne to God,

1782
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 2: the ones like Wallow two six seven, the ones like

1783
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 2: Yo Gott It, the real ones, the ones that win

1784
01:33:58,120 --> 01:34:02,759
Speaker 2: and got their td E top at TDE, the ones

1785
01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:05,080
Speaker 2: that went and got the is that was left out.

1786
01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:08,280
Speaker 2: You know what, I'm gonna put something together on you.

1787
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:12,240
Speaker 2: Huh ain't come in that got me too now. Y'all

1788
01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:14,200
Speaker 2: have made me figure out how to score. Y'all in

1789
01:34:14,240 --> 01:34:17,960
Speaker 2: trouble now, and y'all ain't got no defense for nothing

1790
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:21,759
Speaker 2: other than what y'all helped create. So anything outside of

1791
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:25,519
Speaker 2: what's being created in the head quarters of these labels

1792
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:30,240
Speaker 2: in these big corporations, they tapped out on understanding it.

1793
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:32,320
Speaker 1: It'll take them a while. Matter of fact, they gonna

1794
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:34,360
Speaker 1: come bring you a bag. The teacher to them.

1795
01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:37,559
Speaker 2: One thing about these big corporations, they don't have no

1796
01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:41,920
Speaker 2: motherfucking ego. Long kicking our ass in podcast and hire

1797
01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:43,200
Speaker 2: that boy as a consultant.

1798
01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:45,519
Speaker 1: They don't got no ego.

1799
01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:50,519
Speaker 2: They understand business, but they can't dictate, They can't interfere

1800
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:50,920
Speaker 2: with things.

1801
01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:55,000
Speaker 1: They ain't come out of their head quarters and so on.

1802
01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:57,840
Speaker 2: They once they leave me out of their conversation, they

1803
01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:00,200
Speaker 2: don't invite me to their parties. They don't put with

1804
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:04,320
Speaker 2: me on the list. They did me a favor. I

1805
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:07,040
Speaker 2: created a party, I created a list. All this shit

1806
01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:10,040
Speaker 2: is income. I created a product, I created a studio,

1807
01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:11,360
Speaker 2: I created a festival.

1808
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:12,759
Speaker 1: They didn't want to write.

1809
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:17,160
Speaker 2: None of this is is is bad for somebody in

1810
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:20,000
Speaker 2: my position. But you gotta know how to create a

1811
01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:22,920
Speaker 2: door for yourself, an opportunity to be able to knock on.

1812
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:25,880
Speaker 2: That's the number one goal I want you to take

1813
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:29,080
Speaker 2: from this part today. But I want to get into

1814
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:31,799
Speaker 2: Tianna Taylor and some of the things she spoke about.

1815
01:35:32,200 --> 01:35:35,400
Speaker 1: I truly believe it was profound. Let's take a list.

1816
01:35:36,479 --> 01:35:41,360
Speaker 20: There's there's there's there's demons all around.

1817
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:43,400
Speaker 1: There's demons in human form. There's demons.

1818
01:35:43,400 --> 01:35:45,640
Speaker 20: That's that's the enemy, that is the distraction. So a

1819
01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:48,880
Speaker 20: demon can just be something as small as a distraction.

1820
01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:51,320
Speaker 20: Even know what I'm saying. So we're all fighting a battle,

1821
01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:53,320
Speaker 20: We're all fighting demons. That's why I said, it's about

1822
01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:57,880
Speaker 20: who is being defeated versus who is defeating. I defeat

1823
01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:01,360
Speaker 20: my defeat the motherfuckers playing with y'all. You feel what

1824
01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:03,400
Speaker 20: I'm saying, because my God is stronger.

1825
01:36:03,640 --> 01:36:05,760
Speaker 22: What do you think has been your real life biggest

1826
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:09,639
Speaker 22: demon or distraction that you've had to like constantly check

1827
01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:13,280
Speaker 22: m I know that's a heavy one, but.

1828
01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:23,320
Speaker 20: I guess like how I let things affect me, you know,

1829
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:27,000
Speaker 20: because I go into everything with just so genuine and

1830
01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:29,880
Speaker 20: like with so much love. So I ain't gonna front

1831
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:31,760
Speaker 20: like I had a point in time where I would

1832
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:36,400
Speaker 20: get in my feelings about everything. Well, whoever, you're gonna

1833
01:36:36,400 --> 01:36:38,120
Speaker 20: know how I feel. I'm gonna keep it a bean.

1834
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:42,760
Speaker 20: You can deem me is difficult. I don't care. You

1835
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:44,200
Speaker 20: know what I'm saying. You're not gonna play me.

1836
01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:47,960
Speaker 1: Because that does people hurt your feelings or yeah, you know.

1837
01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:50,760
Speaker 20: Like I've gotten my feelings hurt, but I think also

1838
01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:54,599
Speaker 20: like just also having a bit of like abandonment issues.

1839
01:36:54,880 --> 01:36:56,960
Speaker 20: You feel what I'm saying, and just want to feel

1840
01:36:56,960 --> 01:36:59,720
Speaker 20: protected and want to feel safe, and I think that

1841
01:36:59,720 --> 01:37:03,040
Speaker 20: that's or hurt with them being in the industry and

1842
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:05,240
Speaker 20: being signed to certain people that I looked at.

1843
01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:06,720
Speaker 16: Does this ever happen to you?

1844
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:09,360
Speaker 22: Because I was doing something recently. I had a partner

1845
01:37:09,439 --> 01:37:12,120
Speaker 22: and there was some company that was like interested to

1846
01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:13,240
Speaker 22: do this project, and I was.

1847
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:14,559
Speaker 3: Like, Oh, that's cool, let's see where this place.

1848
01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:15,519
Speaker 1: He was so excited.

1849
01:37:15,680 --> 01:37:18,080
Speaker 22: No, we got they want to fund this thing that

1850
01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:18,600
Speaker 22: you want to do.

1851
01:37:18,640 --> 01:37:20,840
Speaker 3: And I'm like, all right, cool, let's that's good.

1852
01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:22,800
Speaker 1: Let's keep talking to them. He was like, why you

1853
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:25,839
Speaker 1: don't why you don't get excited. I was like, because

1854
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:27,320
Speaker 1: I've heard.

1855
01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:29,559
Speaker 22: This a few times. You sound like me, That's what

1856
01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:31,600
Speaker 22: I'm saying. I wonder for you that because I'm not

1857
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:34,479
Speaker 22: trying to be negative. I'm just being like, all right, God,

1858
01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:38,000
Speaker 22: but I don't as good as younger me.

1859
01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:40,040
Speaker 7: You're not easily in presson no more. I said. That's

1860
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:40,559
Speaker 7: the first thing.

1861
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:42,200
Speaker 1: I said, when we open this up, you take.

1862
01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:43,760
Speaker 22: Me to the finish line and then we'll be Then

1863
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:46,920
Speaker 22: I'm then I'm grateful, but take me to the finish line.

1864
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:49,400
Speaker 22: But I wonder for you then it's in that idea

1865
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:52,000
Speaker 22: is like, when you're having this beautiful moment and you

1866
01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:55,160
Speaker 22: have this beautiful performance and people are talking about awards

1867
01:37:55,240 --> 01:37:57,639
Speaker 22: and and how this is going to change your career,

1868
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:02,000
Speaker 22: are you almost a friend to fully embrace that or

1869
01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:03,320
Speaker 22: you all the way in on it.

1870
01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:08,720
Speaker 20: This was the first time in my career that I

1871
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:10,920
Speaker 20: was able to fully embrace what was happening.

1872
01:38:13,840 --> 01:38:16,040
Speaker 2: So let's let's let's spend a little time on that,

1873
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:20,599
Speaker 2: because I believe that to be a very important topic.

1874
01:38:21,680 --> 01:38:23,360
Speaker 1: The idea that.

1875
01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:32,800
Speaker 2: Even as successful as Andrew Martinez is, she understands that

1876
01:38:33,280 --> 01:38:37,040
Speaker 2: a pitch ain't a catch. See in this game, you

1877
01:38:37,160 --> 01:38:39,960
Speaker 2: gonna learn it's a lot of pitching. And if I

1878
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:44,280
Speaker 2: had to tell a young creator anything, it's like, preserve

1879
01:38:44,360 --> 01:38:47,559
Speaker 2: your energy. Don't burn out. You know what I'm saying,

1880
01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:50,479
Speaker 2: because I can see how you can burn out. You know,

1881
01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:53,120
Speaker 2: you can think, oh man, he calls here, it's here now,

1882
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:56,400
Speaker 2: Nah that deal you didn't make that much.

1883
01:38:57,640 --> 01:38:59,360
Speaker 1: You made sixty five thousand.

1884
01:39:00,640 --> 01:39:02,680
Speaker 2: You know when you you thought you were gonna make

1885
01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:06,439
Speaker 2: a meal, and you ain't understanding you have to work.

1886
01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:08,559
Speaker 2: You have to work these things. You have to work

1887
01:39:08,600 --> 01:39:11,160
Speaker 2: your algorithm, your analytics. You got to learn how to

1888
01:39:11,200 --> 01:39:12,040
Speaker 2: work these things.

1889
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:12,679
Speaker 1: You hustling.

1890
01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:16,960
Speaker 2: You hustling these things, right, that's part of what you're doing.

1891
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:21,960
Speaker 2: It's it's part of the business model. It's so important

1892
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:26,720
Speaker 2: that you that you get some sign of success at

1893
01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:30,320
Speaker 2: some point in your journey because you're a one hundred

1894
01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:31,080
Speaker 2: percent burnout.

1895
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:33,800
Speaker 1: I don't care how good you are. And you also.

1896
01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:38,080
Speaker 2: Kind of need somebody that done it before or that's

1897
01:39:38,120 --> 01:39:42,800
Speaker 2: been around it to believe, to believe in you. That's

1898
01:39:42,840 --> 01:39:45,400
Speaker 2: why you will see a rapper come out the street

1899
01:39:45,479 --> 01:39:48,360
Speaker 2: and this dude that was in music fifteen years ago

1900
01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:51,760
Speaker 2: still get convince them to pay him to ride with him.

1901
01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:54,599
Speaker 2: It's because you believe. Man, now you know he made

1902
01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:56,799
Speaker 2: that be for such and such a two thousand and seven.

1903
01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:00,000
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, he been at the industry a long time.

1904
01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:04,280
Speaker 2: But because he been in the industry, that gives your

1905
01:40:04,360 --> 01:40:06,519
Speaker 2: mind a little bit the rest on because you need

1906
01:40:06,640 --> 01:40:09,320
Speaker 2: somebody that's doing it or done done it to say

1907
01:40:09,439 --> 01:40:12,880
Speaker 2: that's it, that's it. But it's a lot of game

1908
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:15,120
Speaker 2: onto that sit. It's a lot of niggas playing on

1909
01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:18,120
Speaker 2: it that shit. You know, Hey, bringing a certain amount

1910
01:40:18,160 --> 01:40:19,880
Speaker 2: of money, I take it to a nigga, he'll say

1911
01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:21,559
Speaker 2: if it's it or not, and that whole you done

1912
01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:23,960
Speaker 2: pay for a process for a nigga that listen to

1913
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:26,920
Speaker 2: some music that they know not they not gonna invest

1914
01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:30,320
Speaker 2: in on the front end. They know I'm listening to

1915
01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:32,160
Speaker 2: this because I was paid to listen to it, but

1916
01:40:32,160 --> 01:40:34,840
Speaker 2: I ain't really interested in it, and they probably ain't

1917
01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:38,360
Speaker 2: gonna be blow you away to where it's like, oh

1918
01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:41,000
Speaker 2: my god, I ain't heard nothing like that. It's too

1919
01:40:41,040 --> 01:40:43,559
Speaker 2: many fishing to see out there with the music thing.

1920
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:47,200
Speaker 2: The internet done got involved. But I want to kind

1921
01:40:47,200 --> 01:40:50,720
Speaker 2: of still speak on what she's saying about signing to

1922
01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:53,320
Speaker 2: a man as a woman in the industry and looking

1923
01:40:53,439 --> 01:40:55,640
Speaker 2: at him as a father figure. The other day I

1924
01:40:55,720 --> 01:41:01,760
Speaker 2: heard while old Gillis Charlamagne Envy talking about that these

1925
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:04,080
Speaker 2: dudes need to raise their daughters and be there for

1926
01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:07,200
Speaker 2: their daughters and even the mothers. You know, the young

1927
01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:15,960
Speaker 2: girls nowadays are growing up in very strenuous circumstances. They

1928
01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:23,000
Speaker 2: seeing things online that looks so attainable, but in our

1929
01:41:23,080 --> 01:41:27,920
Speaker 2: actuality they're not even tangible, and so they're fighting a

1930
01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:30,479
Speaker 2: weird fight, and I got to thinking because I got

1931
01:41:30,520 --> 01:41:32,920
Speaker 2: two boys, and so I'm not in a situation. But

1932
01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:36,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, having a little girl in this ever

1933
01:41:36,160 --> 01:41:43,000
Speaker 2: right here, probably one of the most frightening things because

1934
01:41:43,040 --> 01:41:45,599
Speaker 2: at some point you gotta be brutally honest with her,

1935
01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:50,120
Speaker 2: and sometimes you can see things that her mother can't

1936
01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:54,120
Speaker 2: even see, right, because you come down that road with

1937
01:41:55,920 --> 01:42:00,920
Speaker 2: you know, I remember being fifteen seventh grade and these

1938
01:42:00,960 --> 01:42:05,400
Speaker 2: little girls is just so eager to give themselves to you.

1939
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:08,680
Speaker 2: And I look back at that as an adult and say, yo,

1940
01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:11,680
Speaker 2: that's two. That's wild when you think about it. The

1941
01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:15,479
Speaker 2: idea that in seven and eighth grade that we running

1942
01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:18,280
Speaker 2: around people fucking and trying to sneak and have six

1943
01:42:18,320 --> 01:42:20,759
Speaker 2: and you can't wait to give yourself to another.

1944
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:24,680
Speaker 1: It's like, Yo, this is this is a lot.

1945
01:42:26,120 --> 01:42:32,040
Speaker 2: It should be somewhat being kids, enjoying pe enjoying video games,

1946
01:42:32,240 --> 01:42:35,799
Speaker 2: enjoying stay a kid as long as you can, enjoying

1947
01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:41,639
Speaker 2: some of the childish things in life. But yet, that's

1948
01:42:41,640 --> 01:42:44,720
Speaker 2: somebody's daughter, right And I'm only saying it because I'm

1949
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:48,599
Speaker 2: getting older, but that's somebody daughter, right, that is trying

1950
01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:51,760
Speaker 2: to sneak off and leave school and give herself to

1951
01:42:51,800 --> 01:43:00,360
Speaker 2: a nigga. And so if you not somebody who's teaching

1952
01:43:00,479 --> 01:43:04,719
Speaker 2: your loved ones the kind of game that's being played

1953
01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:12,520
Speaker 2: out there, then they gonna fall victim. I couldn't imagine

1954
01:43:12,520 --> 01:43:17,120
Speaker 2: being a young woman in the music industry. I couldn't

1955
01:43:17,120 --> 01:43:22,280
Speaker 2: imagine that everybody that's depending on you to make be

1956
01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:25,200
Speaker 2: that million dollar baby or that million dollar teenager or

1957
01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:27,320
Speaker 2: whatever it might be. And they keep thinking, oh, she

1958
01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:30,040
Speaker 2: may be it's about to come, or she met such

1959
01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:30,360
Speaker 2: and such.

1960
01:43:30,400 --> 01:43:31,000
Speaker 1: Here it is.

1961
01:43:32,760 --> 01:43:35,720
Speaker 2: Your hands ain't nowhere on the business. You just got

1962
01:43:35,760 --> 01:43:38,960
Speaker 2: personality and talent, and you're just hoping somebody come bless

1963
01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:45,280
Speaker 2: your business. It really be like when you have talent

1964
01:43:45,360 --> 01:43:48,439
Speaker 2: and and all of that, it's almost like you somewhere.

1965
01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:54,960
Speaker 2: To me, sometimes it's so unfortunate to see how powerful

1966
01:43:55,080 --> 01:44:00,960
Speaker 2: talent is when it's in partnership with the right people.

1967
01:44:02,240 --> 01:44:04,639
Speaker 2: But the same way that I'm amazed when I looked

1968
01:44:04,680 --> 01:44:07,519
Speaker 2: at that, or I look at that, I'm just as

1969
01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:09,840
Speaker 2: amazed when I look on the other side and see

1970
01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:15,599
Speaker 2: how useless talent is without business. It's like talent by

1971
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:20,479
Speaker 2: itself is one of the most useless smoke screens. That

1972
01:44:20,560 --> 01:44:24,519
Speaker 2: a human being can have just by itself. That's why

1973
01:44:24,560 --> 01:44:26,200
Speaker 2: you can be on the corner and hear some of

1974
01:44:26,240 --> 01:44:30,240
Speaker 2: the best singing. I can guarantee you right now in

1975
01:44:30,320 --> 01:44:32,880
Speaker 2: the churches in America. Some of the best singing is

1976
01:44:32,920 --> 01:44:38,679
Speaker 2: going on, period. But business ain't next to that talent.

1977
01:44:38,760 --> 01:44:40,920
Speaker 2: So that person got to sing they heart out on

1978
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:43,880
Speaker 2: Sunday and go drive their forklift on Monday, or go

1979
01:44:43,960 --> 01:44:46,040
Speaker 2: in the call center on Monday, or he got to

1980
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:48,559
Speaker 2: be playing the drawing and he still got to go

1981
01:44:49,000 --> 01:44:51,719
Speaker 2: to this call center Monday morning because ain't no being

1982
01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:54,680
Speaker 2: it's next to the talent. So it's every time I

1983
01:44:54,760 --> 01:44:59,880
Speaker 2: think about how powerful talent is when it's with the

1984
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:04,320
Speaker 2: right partnerships, but on the flip side, how useless it

1985
01:45:04,520 --> 01:45:09,960
Speaker 2: is without any partnership. It's so crazy to me. And

1986
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:15,439
Speaker 2: I'm not saying useless meaning people don't don't have use

1987
01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:18,880
Speaker 2: for it. When I'm speaking in regards to market share,

1988
01:45:18,960 --> 01:45:21,880
Speaker 2: in regards to being able to feed your family and

1989
01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:27,120
Speaker 2: create lifestyle and sustainability, that's what I'm speaking about. I

1990
01:45:27,160 --> 01:45:30,360
Speaker 2: don't think you can gain that with talent just by itself.

1991
01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:33,639
Speaker 2: It's almost like they be somewhere like I got next, Hey,

1992
01:45:33,680 --> 01:45:36,120
Speaker 2: pick me, pick me, pick me. All you talent mother

1993
01:45:36,160 --> 01:45:38,479
Speaker 2: fuckers like pick me, pick me, and then somebody get

1994
01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:41,600
Speaker 2: you and put the business, wrap the business around it

1995
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:46,479
Speaker 2: and make it what it is. And so as a

1996
01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:49,679
Speaker 2: young girl, how does that feel? You know, you're riding

1997
01:45:49,720 --> 01:45:52,320
Speaker 2: through the industry just hoping somebody, Man, I just hope

1998
01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:55,160
Speaker 2: they see that I got careers, mentalent. You probably got

1999
01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:58,160
Speaker 2: adults telling you, look Beyonce and Nima, come and make

2000
01:45:58,200 --> 01:46:00,880
Speaker 2: sure that you, you know, give them that Tiana feel,

2001
01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:04,000
Speaker 2: give them that feel. You know you people, these adults

2002
01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:06,400
Speaker 2: probably start to pressure you to put on a show.

2003
01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:09,320
Speaker 1: Now you become a shower, you can become a show.

2004
01:46:09,400 --> 01:46:13,080
Speaker 2: As a child, everywhere you go, you got to try

2005
01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:15,960
Speaker 2: to impress you in front execs and this is MTV

2006
01:46:16,080 --> 01:46:18,320
Speaker 2: and they work for BT and this is Little Young

2007
01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:20,840
Speaker 2: such and such, and you see it's like, yo, I

2008
01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:22,840
Speaker 2: bet you that's a weird life. Let's listen to a

2009
01:46:22,880 --> 01:46:23,360
Speaker 2: little more.

2010
01:46:26,040 --> 01:46:28,080
Speaker 20: I've gotten my feelings hurt. But I think also like

2011
01:46:29,320 --> 01:46:32,000
Speaker 20: just also having a bit of like abandonment issues. You

2012
01:46:32,000 --> 01:46:34,520
Speaker 20: feel what I'm saying, and just want to feel protected

2013
01:46:34,640 --> 01:46:37,080
Speaker 20: and want to feel safe, And I think that's what

2014
01:46:37,200 --> 01:46:40,599
Speaker 20: hurt with them being in the industry and being signed

2015
01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:43,800
Speaker 20: to certain people that I looked at, look to for

2016
01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:49,080
Speaker 20: protection and kind of like allow whoever else to do

2017
01:46:49,160 --> 01:46:52,320
Speaker 20: whatever with me. You feel what I'm saying. So it's

2018
01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:55,200
Speaker 20: just like, I don't know, it's a lot.

2019
01:46:55,720 --> 01:46:57,240
Speaker 22: What is the abandonment issues from?

2020
01:46:57,280 --> 01:47:01,280
Speaker 20: Because your family is around, but my mom was a

2021
01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:09,240
Speaker 20: single parent. My biological pops was in jail like distraction,

2022
01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:12,320
Speaker 20: So a demon can just be something as small as it.

2023
01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:16,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, do you call him dad or were not

2024
01:47:18,080 --> 01:47:19,439
Speaker 1: first built a relationship?

2025
01:47:19,479 --> 01:47:20,400
Speaker 20: We just kept clashing.

2026
01:47:22,120 --> 01:47:23,160
Speaker 7: How old are you in that happen?

2027
01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:27,360
Speaker 20: You know, boat really came around and we got super

2028
01:47:27,400 --> 01:47:29,719
Speaker 20: duper close. You got to think about it, like coming

2029
01:47:29,720 --> 01:47:34,320
Speaker 20: from that not really having a dad, and then you know,

2030
01:47:35,560 --> 01:47:39,160
Speaker 20: another figure in my life wound up getting murdered. You know,

2031
01:47:39,360 --> 01:47:40,160
Speaker 20: the closest thing.

2032
01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:42,639
Speaker 22: You know, how old when that when that happened?

2033
01:47:42,760 --> 01:47:44,040
Speaker 7: Huh, how old are you in that happened?

2034
01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:46,719
Speaker 20: I had to be about and that's why my pops,

2035
01:47:46,760 --> 01:47:48,640
Speaker 20: my pops were still locked up, so I had to

2036
01:47:48,640 --> 01:47:54,160
Speaker 20: be partly about like eleven or twelve my mom's uh

2037
01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:58,400
Speaker 20: at the time, was murdered and that she just took

2038
01:47:58,439 --> 01:48:02,880
Speaker 20: me down. You know what I'm saying, so my biological

2039
01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:05,800
Speaker 20: pops coming out of jail on us trying to build

2040
01:48:05,800 --> 01:48:08,679
Speaker 20: a wayship. We just kept clashing. We just were clashing

2041
01:48:08,680 --> 01:48:10,200
Speaker 20: because it's like you got out thinking you was about

2042
01:48:10,240 --> 01:48:12,920
Speaker 20: to like tell me how this ship run, and it's like, bro,

2043
01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:14,280
Speaker 20: you've been like for them long. You don't even know

2044
01:48:14,320 --> 01:48:16,160
Speaker 20: how to work the steering wheel, like you you feel

2045
01:48:16,120 --> 01:48:17,360
Speaker 20: what I'm saying. You don't even know how to work

2046
01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:19,320
Speaker 20: the cap, the chair. What the fuck is you're talking about?

2047
01:48:19,479 --> 01:48:22,360
Speaker 7: You call him dad or were not first name?

2048
01:48:22,400 --> 01:48:26,479
Speaker 20: But the crazy what about it is I wanted that

2049
01:48:26,520 --> 01:48:28,519
Speaker 20: figure so bad that, yes, when he first got out,

2050
01:48:28,840 --> 01:48:32,479
Speaker 20: I was excited to say dad until he got me

2051
01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:34,800
Speaker 20: fucked up a little bit, you feel me? So then

2052
01:48:34,840 --> 01:48:41,760
Speaker 20: it was just like being signed, getting signed to a man.

2053
01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:45,120
Speaker 20: You know, it was like a figure to me, you

2054
01:48:45,160 --> 01:48:48,080
Speaker 20: know what I'm saying, Like, oh my god, Like you know,

2055
01:48:48,160 --> 01:48:50,160
Speaker 20: I looked at these people like figures, you know what

2056
01:48:50,160 --> 01:48:52,679
Speaker 20: I'm saying. Whether it was as a as a dad

2057
01:48:52,800 --> 01:48:55,840
Speaker 20: or as a a brother, it didn't matter. So it

2058
01:48:55,920 --> 01:48:59,080
Speaker 20: was like you didn't see me, when you didn't hear me, You.

2059
01:48:59,120 --> 01:48:59,960
Speaker 1: Didn't protect me.

2060
01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:02,920
Speaker 20: You just kind of just like fed me to the

2061
01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:06,000
Speaker 20: wolves type shit without even probably even knowing you know

2062
01:49:06,040 --> 01:49:08,880
Speaker 20: what I'm saying, and those are those were you know,

2063
01:49:10,080 --> 01:49:11,760
Speaker 20: some of those conversations still need to be.

2064
01:49:13,640 --> 01:49:13,920
Speaker 14: Had.

2065
01:49:14,280 --> 01:49:17,639
Speaker 20: Ego at the time, we don't know. To me as

2066
01:49:17,640 --> 01:49:21,320
Speaker 20: a fifteen year old is you didn't protect me. You

2067
01:49:21,400 --> 01:49:25,280
Speaker 20: let everybody mis mishandle me. You know what I'm saying

2068
01:49:25,320 --> 01:49:27,840
Speaker 20: when I signed to you, you know what I'm saying, like,

2069
01:49:27,880 --> 01:49:29,640
Speaker 20: and you let everybody get in the way, you let

2070
01:49:29,680 --> 01:49:32,120
Speaker 20: everybody break us apart.

2071
01:49:32,560 --> 01:49:33,479
Speaker 1: You didn't protect me.

2072
01:49:33,840 --> 01:49:37,040
Speaker 22: You know, so understand that that's like probably so hard

2073
01:49:37,080 --> 01:49:37,920
Speaker 22: for him to hear that.

2074
01:49:39,320 --> 01:49:41,360
Speaker 20: It took me a long time to christ Like I said,

2075
01:49:42,040 --> 01:49:44,280
Speaker 20: even though I'm saying all of this, this is not

2076
01:49:44,400 --> 01:49:46,599
Speaker 20: things that like I Then you.

2077
01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:49,160
Speaker 2: Have to remember this is a fifteen year old Tiana

2078
01:49:49,240 --> 01:49:52,439
Speaker 2: Taylor signed to for real, trying to make her way

2079
01:49:52,479 --> 01:49:57,280
Speaker 2: through this thing, trying to operate in this volatile business,

2080
01:49:57,760 --> 01:49:59,840
Speaker 2: and then coming from outside in the industry. You look

2081
01:49:59,840 --> 01:50:02,280
Speaker 2: at these people and they've done so many great things

2082
01:50:02,280 --> 01:50:04,799
Speaker 2: and you want to say, man, wow, man, this person

2083
01:50:04,840 --> 01:50:07,800
Speaker 2: got me. I'm next to the great such and such

2084
01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:11,360
Speaker 2: and such and such, and it's like, nah, you gotta

2085
01:50:11,439 --> 01:50:14,559
Speaker 2: really have people around you to put your business in,

2086
01:50:14,800 --> 01:50:17,919
Speaker 2: do your own due diligence, make sure you in position

2087
01:50:18,040 --> 01:50:21,360
Speaker 2: to win, or you're gonna be you know, up shits

2088
01:50:21,400 --> 01:50:25,360
Speaker 2: Creek and you're gonna be very very But shout out

2089
01:50:25,400 --> 01:50:27,920
Speaker 2: to yaa Taylor Andrew Martinez again.

2090
01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:29,839
Speaker 1: Dope dope, dope, dope dope interview.

2091
01:50:30,920 --> 01:50:33,439
Speaker 2: Let's move on, all right, let's speak about this blad

2092
01:50:33,640 --> 01:50:38,600
Speaker 2: TV Vlad went over to DJ Academics podcast on Spotify

2093
01:50:38,720 --> 01:50:42,400
Speaker 2: off the record, and he spoke about Charleston White, spoke

2094
01:50:42,400 --> 01:50:45,439
Speaker 2: about why he quote unquote band Charleston White, and I

2095
01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:47,640
Speaker 2: know that eighty five South and a couple of his

2096
01:50:47,760 --> 01:50:51,360
Speaker 2: interviews have came down based on some of the rhetoric

2097
01:50:51,439 --> 01:50:55,639
Speaker 2: that he's putting out. I'm not really gonna attack any

2098
01:50:55,680 --> 01:50:58,479
Speaker 2: of that because I can't stand by or stand for

2099
01:50:59,320 --> 01:51:02,519
Speaker 2: some of the activity that's being called for, whether it's

2100
01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:03,360
Speaker 2: actions or not.

2101
01:51:03,520 --> 01:51:03,880
Speaker 1: That's that.

2102
01:51:05,720 --> 01:51:09,600
Speaker 2: But I do want to take a look at the

2103
01:51:09,640 --> 01:51:14,000
Speaker 2: way the industry will use you, the way the industry

2104
01:51:14,040 --> 01:51:18,960
Speaker 2: will handle you. I think this is a cautionary tale

2105
01:51:18,960 --> 01:51:24,080
Speaker 2: for people coming up that you must be careful to

2106
01:51:24,120 --> 01:51:27,680
Speaker 2: create a catalog for other people because they after they

2107
01:51:27,720 --> 01:51:30,160
Speaker 2: get everything they can, they will kick you out of

2108
01:51:30,160 --> 01:51:35,559
Speaker 2: this industry with nothing, and then now they can do

2109
01:51:35,640 --> 01:51:38,880
Speaker 2: a documentary without you because all of your interviews are

2110
01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:43,599
Speaker 2: what owned by other people. So all of those hot

2111
01:51:43,680 --> 01:51:46,760
Speaker 2: takes you got, all those dope shits she said that

2112
01:51:46,840 --> 01:51:51,720
Speaker 2: are owned by other people. Not only that, I want

2113
01:51:51,720 --> 01:52:01,000
Speaker 2: to kind of pay attention to the overarching conversation of

2114
01:52:01,240 --> 01:52:04,960
Speaker 2: it's cool when they do it, and it's a problem

2115
01:52:04,960 --> 01:52:07,920
Speaker 2: when I do it. I don't stand by the aw

2116
01:52:08,040 --> 01:52:14,160
Speaker 2: word in any instant period. We don't stand by molestation,

2117
01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:16,360
Speaker 2: We don't stand by any of those things. And I

2118
01:52:16,400 --> 01:52:19,520
Speaker 2: think it's important to hear black men say that without

2119
01:52:19,680 --> 01:52:24,400
Speaker 2: it being assumed, because I've assumed some things about a

2120
01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:27,360
Speaker 2: lot of you dudes, and I unfortunately got it wrong.

2121
01:52:27,960 --> 01:52:31,880
Speaker 2: So sometimes I need to hear niggas confess to no

2122
01:52:32,040 --> 01:52:34,800
Speaker 2: wrongdoing so the universe can handle that if they on

2123
01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:37,479
Speaker 2: the other side of that, I'm gonna play this clip

2124
01:52:37,520 --> 01:52:40,519
Speaker 2: from Off the Record, and we'll come back with some

2125
01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:45,280
Speaker 2: commentary about Vlad about academics. We'll probably stopping me away

2126
01:52:45,320 --> 01:52:46,120
Speaker 2: through pay attention.

2127
01:52:47,120 --> 01:52:52,320
Speaker 4: Charleston White, you're very captivating, like people are interested. You

2128
01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:55,400
Speaker 4: did one interview with them too, too.

2129
01:52:56,560 --> 01:52:58,360
Speaker 15: How do you like.

2130
01:53:01,520 --> 01:53:02,639
Speaker 7: Who do you think about everything.

2131
01:53:02,760 --> 01:53:05,760
Speaker 3: You don't rock with Charleston? Why anymore? No one.

2132
01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:09,280
Speaker 7: Now you don't see him covered on the site. You

2133
01:53:09,320 --> 01:53:14,000
Speaker 7: won't see interviews with us anymore. At the end of

2134
01:53:14,040 --> 01:53:20,479
Speaker 7: the day, when we did the first interview with him,

2135
01:53:21,080 --> 01:53:23,839
Speaker 7: and then like he was saying some really like racist

2136
01:53:23,840 --> 01:53:26,400
Speaker 7: things about Asians and stuff like that, me and him

2137
01:53:26,439 --> 01:53:29,280
Speaker 7: actually had a conversation about this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we

2138
01:53:29,320 --> 01:53:31,479
Speaker 7: had a conversation and I was just like, yo, like

2139
01:53:31,479 --> 01:53:33,680
Speaker 7: like this is I don't agree with this, and you

2140
01:53:33,720 --> 01:53:35,559
Speaker 7: know what I mean, And if you keep doing shit

2141
01:53:35,680 --> 01:53:38,760
Speaker 7: like this, you're ultimately going to get your social You're

2142
01:53:38,760 --> 01:53:41,639
Speaker 7: gonna lose your social media platforms. Sure enough, like two

2143
01:53:41,680 --> 01:53:43,960
Speaker 7: weeks later he lost his YouTube channel, you know what

2144
01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:46,439
Speaker 7: I'm saying. And I was just like, look like we

2145
01:53:46,479 --> 01:53:48,240
Speaker 7: could do another interview and we could address some of

2146
01:53:48,280 --> 01:53:49,880
Speaker 7: this stuff. And you know, I mean, listen, we all

2147
01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:52,000
Speaker 7: fly off the handle, we all make mistakes. I don't

2148
01:53:52,080 --> 01:53:54,400
Speaker 7: I don't feel that you know, this is necessarily who

2149
01:53:54,479 --> 01:53:56,800
Speaker 7: you are, because our conversations have never been like this.

2150
01:53:56,920 --> 01:53:57,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean.

2151
01:53:58,000 --> 01:54:01,200
Speaker 7: So we did another interview, but then after that he's

2152
01:54:01,200 --> 01:54:04,680
Speaker 7: talking about like raping Asian babies, and you know what

2153
01:54:04,680 --> 01:54:09,080
Speaker 7: I mean, he's talking about people's kids. He talked about

2154
01:54:09,120 --> 01:54:12,720
Speaker 7: Boosey's kids, talked about math hoff as kids. These are

2155
01:54:12,760 --> 01:54:15,120
Speaker 7: like little girls and little boys, Like you know what

2156
01:54:15,160 --> 01:54:19,080
Speaker 7: I'm saying, Like like that to me is just disgusting,

2157
01:54:19,880 --> 01:54:21,800
Speaker 7: you see what I'm saying. And I understand that you're

2158
01:54:21,840 --> 01:54:23,840
Speaker 7: trying to be edgy and you're trying to do shit.

2159
01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:26,519
Speaker 7: You know, you're trying to get out there and so forth,

2160
01:54:26,560 --> 01:54:28,360
Speaker 7: and you know you have the right to defend yourself

2161
01:54:28,360 --> 01:54:30,400
Speaker 7: if anyone runs up on you. And I agree with

2162
01:54:30,439 --> 01:54:35,040
Speaker 7: all that, but like, you don't have to bring kids

2163
01:54:35,080 --> 01:54:38,400
Speaker 7: into the fucking conversation. The kids didn't do shit. The

2164
01:54:38,480 --> 01:54:41,120
Speaker 7: kids don't even know You've never even had interactions.

2165
01:54:40,520 --> 01:54:41,280
Speaker 3: With these kids.

2166
01:54:41,720 --> 01:54:44,160
Speaker 7: Talk about raping like he's talked about like I'll rape

2167
01:54:44,160 --> 01:54:46,320
Speaker 7: an Asian baby or some shit like that. Like there's

2168
01:54:46,360 --> 01:54:48,720
Speaker 7: really just just disgusting things to say, Like you know,

2169
01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:52,120
Speaker 7: like when just I feel the same way when when

2170
01:54:52,200 --> 01:54:56,720
Speaker 7: JT was beefing with some girl on Instagram, Yeah, I said, oh,

2171
01:54:57,080 --> 01:55:00,120
Speaker 7: your baby, your baby's ugly and looks like fin Us.

2172
01:55:00,160 --> 01:55:00,800
Speaker 1: Two times.

2173
01:55:01,160 --> 01:55:04,280
Speaker 2: Charleston White is saying that Vlad offered two thousand dollars.

2174
01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:08,720
Speaker 2: Charleston White said no, and so Vlad now was taking

2175
01:55:08,720 --> 01:55:12,000
Speaker 2: his moral stance. This is what Charleston White said. Bladd

2176
01:55:12,120 --> 01:55:14,280
Speaker 2: is saying what you just heard him say, Yo, he

2177
01:55:14,320 --> 01:55:16,600
Speaker 2: can't say that kind of thing, and I co signed him.

2178
01:55:16,840 --> 01:55:18,920
Speaker 2: The problem is he was saying that kind of thing

2179
01:55:18,960 --> 01:55:22,840
Speaker 2: when he came on. And then Vladd Jesse admitted to saying, Yo,

2180
01:55:23,000 --> 01:55:25,000
Speaker 2: he said that kind of thing. And I called him

2181
01:55:25,000 --> 01:55:26,840
Speaker 2: and he told me he was in his character. So

2182
01:55:26,880 --> 01:55:30,240
Speaker 2: we did another interview, and so you looked over it

2183
01:55:30,360 --> 01:55:33,240
Speaker 2: that one time. Then he did it again, and all

2184
01:55:33,280 --> 01:55:35,360
Speaker 2: of a sudden you didn't look over it. You know,

2185
01:55:35,560 --> 01:55:38,160
Speaker 2: whatever reason that was. But I just want to highlight

2186
01:55:38,200 --> 01:55:42,520
Speaker 2: the fact that Blad just acknowledged, Ay, he was saying

2187
01:55:42,520 --> 01:55:47,480
Speaker 2: some wild things. I called him, he told me something,

2188
01:55:47,840 --> 01:55:51,520
Speaker 2: and we did another interview. Okay, And so now my

2189
01:55:51,600 --> 01:55:53,880
Speaker 2: new questions to somebody like Vlad is all right, So

2190
01:55:53,920 --> 01:55:54,960
Speaker 2: where do we draw the line?

2191
01:55:55,000 --> 01:55:57,200
Speaker 1: Because I know Vlad to have sat down.

2192
01:55:57,000 --> 01:56:02,240
Speaker 2: With murderers, mob guys, And again I don't co sign

2193
01:56:02,360 --> 01:56:04,440
Speaker 2: the aw word in any way shape for him, the

2194
01:56:04,440 --> 01:56:08,480
Speaker 2: harmon of children in any way, right, But I'm saying,

2195
01:56:09,920 --> 01:56:11,640
Speaker 2: when do we allow.

2196
01:56:13,560 --> 01:56:13,600
Speaker 15: It?

2197
01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:15,880
Speaker 2: Where is the line and then you about to hear

2198
01:56:15,960 --> 01:56:19,040
Speaker 2: him say that JT said something about for next two

2199
01:56:19,160 --> 01:56:21,720
Speaker 2: times and he looked at her difference. It's like, yo,

2200
01:56:21,800 --> 01:56:24,240
Speaker 2: bro blad, I don't really think they care how you

2201
01:56:24,280 --> 01:56:26,480
Speaker 2: look at him, though, you see what I'm saying. I

2202
01:56:26,520 --> 01:56:29,080
Speaker 2: don't know if the platform make you think that they

2203
01:56:29,160 --> 01:56:31,520
Speaker 2: care about how you look at them. But I'm gonna

2204
01:56:31,520 --> 01:56:34,560
Speaker 2: be the guy to tell you they probably ain't stunning

2205
01:56:34,640 --> 01:56:36,840
Speaker 2: how you looking at them, or I looked at her different.

2206
01:56:36,880 --> 01:56:40,560
Speaker 2: It's like, who they don't care how you look at him.

2207
01:56:40,840 --> 01:56:44,000
Speaker 2: It ain't that serious coming from over a player, You

2208
01:56:44,040 --> 01:56:49,240
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. But at the same time, what

2209
01:56:49,480 --> 01:56:53,000
Speaker 2: gives Vlad the ability? And I guess because it's his platform,

2210
01:56:53,040 --> 01:56:55,480
Speaker 2: so he can say now on my platform, it ain't work.

2211
01:56:55,520 --> 01:56:59,840
Speaker 2: But I don't know, man, It's just like this is

2212
01:56:59,840 --> 01:57:02,120
Speaker 2: how you know in the industry, they try to play

2213
01:57:02,240 --> 01:57:05,360
Speaker 2: king maker and they try to make sure they put

2214
01:57:05,400 --> 01:57:07,400
Speaker 2: you in a place where we're done messing with him.

2215
01:57:07,440 --> 01:57:08,680
Speaker 1: Everybody cut him off.

2216
01:57:09,480 --> 01:57:11,520
Speaker 2: Like I can tell now that I be having little

2217
01:57:11,600 --> 01:57:14,280
Speaker 2: riffs with people, or I might say something of what

2218
01:57:14,320 --> 01:57:17,560
Speaker 2: I think is the truth, and these old lass old

2219
01:57:17,720 --> 01:57:21,280
Speaker 2: head these finna go bad.

2220
01:57:21,440 --> 01:57:21,880
Speaker 1: In the way.

2221
01:57:22,040 --> 01:57:25,320
Speaker 2: Niggas a backup out for you get scared. I'd be like,

2222
01:57:25,360 --> 01:57:29,320
Speaker 2: oh man, these niggas is pool nanny like me and

2223
01:57:29,360 --> 01:57:32,720
Speaker 2: this dude having a conversation and you don't act like me,

2224
01:57:32,800 --> 01:57:34,360
Speaker 2: and you donet fell out.

2225
01:57:34,640 --> 01:57:38,920
Speaker 1: You nigga pool nanni. You nigga pool now.

2226
01:57:39,000 --> 01:57:41,000
Speaker 2: And I'm glad I get to see that, you nigga

2227
01:57:41,080 --> 01:57:43,880
Speaker 2: poo nan it like that because they let me know

2228
01:57:43,920 --> 01:57:46,760
Speaker 2: about how far you will go. You niggas ain't got

2229
01:57:46,840 --> 01:57:51,360
Speaker 2: no backbones, you ain't got no morals. I was listening

2230
01:57:51,400 --> 01:57:54,640
Speaker 2: to Charlemagne said that they he think they fired him

2231
01:57:54,760 --> 01:57:57,360
Speaker 2: just to try to get cool with jay Z. It's like,

2232
01:57:57,440 --> 01:58:01,640
Speaker 2: that's the kind of shit they doing out there. Oh

2233
01:58:02,280 --> 01:58:07,440
Speaker 2: Loom says something to Joe Budden. I'm gonna stop posting him. Man,

2234
01:58:07,520 --> 01:58:11,200
Speaker 2: you niggas is weird those you know what I'm saying.

2235
01:58:11,280 --> 01:58:13,480
Speaker 2: I say that with all my heart and don't care

2236
01:58:13,560 --> 01:58:16,640
Speaker 2: how nobody take it. You dudes is real life weird

2237
01:58:16,720 --> 01:58:19,360
Speaker 2: those man, and they come from the Big One.

2238
01:58:19,400 --> 01:58:23,040
Speaker 7: Really gotta talk about the baby like that to me

2239
01:58:24,160 --> 01:58:27,040
Speaker 7: just shows a person's character, Like I look at JT

2240
01:58:27,160 --> 01:58:32,120
Speaker 7: differently because of that. And listen, we all get foul shit.

2241
01:58:32,560 --> 01:58:37,080
Speaker 7: You and I have a mountain of foul things said

2242
01:58:37,120 --> 01:58:40,280
Speaker 7: to us every day for I've been dealing with this

2243
01:58:40,320 --> 01:58:44,360
Speaker 7: for decades now. Every day someone says something disgusting to me.

2244
01:58:45,200 --> 01:58:48,840
Speaker 7: But never do I say, fuck your baby, fuck your daughter.

2245
01:58:49,680 --> 01:58:51,760
Speaker 7: I'll slap your son in the face when I see him,

2246
01:58:52,360 --> 01:58:55,200
Speaker 7: I'll fucking you know what I'm saying, Like like I'll

2247
01:58:55,320 --> 01:58:57,800
Speaker 7: rape a child because I'm mad at you, Like you

2248
01:58:57,840 --> 01:58:59,400
Speaker 7: know what I mean, Like like at some point you

2249
01:58:59,440 --> 01:59:02,920
Speaker 7: gotta say this is not okay. And I'm not going

2250
01:59:02,960 --> 01:59:05,839
Speaker 7: to get behind a person that's willing to say stuff

2251
01:59:06,320 --> 01:59:09,240
Speaker 7: like this when they get angry, you know what I mean,

2252
01:59:09,720 --> 01:59:12,600
Speaker 7: Like like I fuck with Boosy, Like my relationship with

2253
01:59:12,680 --> 01:59:16,360
Speaker 7: Boosy has been one hundred for like twenty years, you

2254
01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:17,760
Speaker 7: know what I mean. Like like I was one of

2255
01:59:17,800 --> 01:59:19,960
Speaker 7: the first people to interview him and Webby when they

2256
01:59:19,960 --> 01:59:22,800
Speaker 7: first got signed Atlantic. This is like two thousand and

2257
01:59:23,360 --> 01:59:25,680
Speaker 7: five or something like that. You see what I'm saying.

2258
01:59:25,920 --> 01:59:28,720
Speaker 7: This is coming up on twenty years. You know, you're

2259
01:59:28,760 --> 01:59:34,000
Speaker 7: talking about this man's kids who he loves. Me and

2260
01:59:34,040 --> 01:59:39,040
Speaker 7: Matt Haffa, we go back ten years. You talk about

2261
01:59:39,040 --> 01:59:44,200
Speaker 7: Matt Haffa's daughter, Like, like, I just can't support something

2262
01:59:44,240 --> 01:59:47,480
Speaker 7: like that. So if you look, we don't cover Charleston White.

2263
01:59:47,760 --> 01:59:51,360
Speaker 7: If his name ever comes up, it's because the other

2264
01:59:51,400 --> 01:59:53,560
Speaker 7: person brings them up. We just address it and we

2265
01:59:53,640 --> 01:59:56,400
Speaker 7: keep on moving. But like, yeah, all this other shit,

2266
01:59:56,600 --> 01:59:58,520
Speaker 7: I'm not gonna do any more interviews with him. I'm

2267
01:59:58,520 --> 02:00:03,000
Speaker 7: not gonna, you know, And and honestly, I'm sure there's

2268
02:00:03,000 --> 02:00:05,320
Speaker 7: lots of other platforms that want the views. I mean,

2269
02:00:05,360 --> 02:00:07,240
Speaker 7: I think Sean Cotton still rocks with him. Seems like

2270
02:00:07,280 --> 02:00:09,000
Speaker 7: you kind of rock with him, you know what I mean.

2271
02:00:09,000 --> 02:00:11,640
Speaker 7: But you know, I just can't, like you see what

2272
02:00:11,640 --> 02:00:15,080
Speaker 7: I'm saying, Like, at what point do you draw the line.

2273
02:00:15,200 --> 02:00:18,280
Speaker 4: I've talked to him and addressing a lot of these things, and.

2274
02:00:19,840 --> 02:00:22,200
Speaker 7: How does he justify talking about people's kids?

2275
02:00:22,680 --> 02:00:26,560
Speaker 4: So if well, I'll talk about when he says and

2276
02:00:26,600 --> 02:00:33,240
Speaker 4: he's talking about Asians, he believes that's a character that

2277
02:00:33,320 --> 02:00:36,680
Speaker 4: he's playing, that he's in. He has multiple characters that

2278
02:00:36,720 --> 02:00:40,720
Speaker 4: he feels he's established, and one of them is hateful

2279
02:00:41,200 --> 02:00:44,520
Speaker 4: and he and that's a cop out, and he feels

2280
02:00:44,520 --> 02:00:49,400
Speaker 4: that unless he's schizophrenic, clinically schizophrenic. If you watch this,

2281
02:00:49,480 --> 02:00:51,640
Speaker 4: if you well, I'm not saying his schisphen but but

2282
02:00:51,720 --> 02:00:56,240
Speaker 4: he's he's completely standing behind this character thing where he says, yo, listen,

2283
02:00:56,800 --> 02:00:59,880
Speaker 4: he there is a there is Charleston White, then the

2284
02:01:00,280 --> 02:01:04,080
Speaker 4: chickenshits Charlie, and then there's there's there's like two more

2285
02:01:04,120 --> 02:01:08,520
Speaker 4: other characters, Rat Williams or whatever the case is, and

2286
02:01:08,160 --> 02:01:11,280
Speaker 4: and and I've had the conversation with him about this, saying, hey, listen,

2287
02:01:12,200 --> 02:01:14,320
Speaker 4: you know there's a moment where I thought his voice

2288
02:01:14,400 --> 02:01:18,480
Speaker 4: was kind of escalating, and I thought it was very

2289
02:01:18,560 --> 02:01:23,080
Speaker 4: necessary too, because for example, for certain things like denounces

2290
02:01:23,160 --> 02:01:24,160
Speaker 4: some of the Chicago stuff.

2291
02:01:24,200 --> 02:01:31,760
Speaker 7: So I'm not I'm not even entertaining honestly, that argument

2292
02:01:31,800 --> 02:01:34,320
Speaker 7: in my intelligence. Yeah, you know, because you're saying it

2293
02:01:35,000 --> 02:01:38,200
Speaker 7: like you're not in a movie. Okay, I'll say that. Okay,

2294
02:01:38,240 --> 02:01:41,080
Speaker 7: if he did that in a movie, in a scripted movie,

2295
02:01:41,200 --> 02:01:44,400
Speaker 7: that's the only way I would accept that character. You're

2296
02:01:44,440 --> 02:01:48,840
Speaker 7: doing this on on social media.

2297
02:01:49,160 --> 02:01:51,360
Speaker 4: Well, he believes part of this, et cetera. I'll say

2298
02:01:51,360 --> 02:01:53,080
Speaker 4: this to kind of even put a bowl on this.

2299
02:01:54,600 --> 02:02:00,600
Speaker 4: I without giving away too much subsequent conversations with him,

2300
02:02:00,880 --> 02:02:06,640
Speaker 4: he maybe he feels like there maybe there's a too

2301
02:02:06,680 --> 02:02:09,000
Speaker 4: far button that he probably has realized.

2302
02:02:08,760 --> 02:02:10,400
Speaker 3: And maybe it has happened. The show got.

2303
02:02:10,320 --> 02:02:12,040
Speaker 7: Canceled in New York, right, weren't you doing the show?

2304
02:02:12,320 --> 02:02:12,560
Speaker 8: Yeah?

2305
02:02:12,640 --> 02:02:15,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, that that shit got canceled pretty quickly, which, by

2306
02:02:15,200 --> 02:02:17,280
Speaker 4: the way he keeps it like, I guess down South

2307
02:02:17,360 --> 02:02:21,000
Speaker 4: is like different from yo. I mean literally, if you

2308
02:02:21,040 --> 02:02:24,960
Speaker 4: knew how quick that show got canceled, like it was

2309
02:02:25,000 --> 02:02:28,200
Speaker 4: a vehement it was like, hey listen. Within two hours,

2310
02:02:28,240 --> 02:02:31,680
Speaker 4: it went from hey, listen, we're kind of getting some

2311
02:02:31,760 --> 02:02:34,680
Speaker 4: calls from some really powerful people. Some of this conversation

2312
02:02:34,800 --> 02:02:38,200
Speaker 4: doesn't like he's there's a clip that he has to Hey,

2313
02:02:38,360 --> 02:02:41,000
Speaker 4: I think you might have to change change the person

2314
02:02:41,080 --> 02:02:43,800
Speaker 4: who you're gonna have on the show. To two hours

2315
02:02:43,840 --> 02:02:46,800
Speaker 4: later they're like, hey listen, we're not hosting this thing

2316
02:02:46,840 --> 02:02:49,400
Speaker 4: at all. An hour later, it's like, yo, hey listen,

2317
02:02:49,400 --> 02:02:52,880
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest with you. Just even thinking that

2318
02:02:52,960 --> 02:02:54,800
Speaker 4: you knew you were aware of some of the stuff

2319
02:02:54,840 --> 02:02:57,040
Speaker 4: he was saying, we're wondering about you, and I was like,

2320
02:02:57,560 --> 02:03:00,080
Speaker 4: whoa wait, so again.

2321
02:03:00,440 --> 02:03:07,839
Speaker 2: That so you hear academics speak about essentially what causes

2322
02:03:07,920 --> 02:03:10,440
Speaker 2: him to no longer mess with Charleston White because it

2323
02:03:10,440 --> 02:03:12,880
Speaker 2: ain't because he don't mess with him.

2324
02:03:12,880 --> 02:03:13,600
Speaker 1: It's because he doesn't.

2325
02:03:13,640 --> 02:03:17,320
Speaker 2: They don't put the squeeze on him like he doesn't

2326
02:03:17,360 --> 02:03:19,440
Speaker 2: always say I'm a fan, I love Charga White, I

2327
02:03:19,440 --> 02:03:21,760
Speaker 2: love what he said. This is why he's defeitended him

2328
02:03:21,760 --> 02:03:26,480
Speaker 2: saying that other stuff. Vlad too, vladd is still behind him,

2329
02:03:26,480 --> 02:03:31,960
Speaker 2: say she's still behind him. Right, But now academics made

2330
02:03:32,000 --> 02:03:34,440
Speaker 2: the decision to put his name next to each other,

2331
02:03:35,880 --> 02:03:38,320
Speaker 2: got it canceled? Now he got a cancel show on

2332
02:03:38,360 --> 02:03:41,600
Speaker 2: his record as a podcast, as a dude with a

2333
02:03:41,640 --> 02:03:44,480
Speaker 2: Spotify deal, as a dude with these big deals, and

2334
02:03:44,560 --> 02:03:49,400
Speaker 2: got a canceled show over controversy on his record, So

2335
02:03:49,440 --> 02:03:51,480
Speaker 2: they probably put the squeeze on him. Now he don't

2336
02:03:51,480 --> 02:03:54,360
Speaker 2: even mess with him no more. Hey, I think he

2337
02:03:54,520 --> 02:03:56,560
Speaker 2: knows he hit the too far button. I think he

2338
02:03:56,720 --> 02:04:00,320
Speaker 2: kind of knows what's going on again. Just a month ago,

2339
02:04:00,400 --> 02:04:03,840
Speaker 2: you was trying to throw a show with him in

2340
02:04:03,880 --> 02:04:05,560
Speaker 2: the middle of all of that.

2341
02:04:05,560 --> 02:04:06,760
Speaker 1: That's what you know what I mean?

2342
02:04:06,840 --> 02:04:10,040
Speaker 2: That added fuel to everything that was happening, that all

2343
02:04:10,080 --> 02:04:13,760
Speaker 2: of that right there. So you must pay attention. You

2344
02:04:13,880 --> 02:04:16,640
Speaker 2: understand what I'm saying. And if you don't pay attention,

2345
02:04:16,680 --> 02:04:18,760
Speaker 2: you lose. I want to talk about this far I

2346
02:04:18,760 --> 02:04:23,560
Speaker 2: get out of here, because I was thinking the other

2347
02:04:23,640 --> 02:04:26,120
Speaker 2: day when I was talking to one of my business partners,

2348
02:04:27,320 --> 02:04:29,920
Speaker 2: and it's like I'm telling them. I don't know if

2349
02:04:29,920 --> 02:04:32,760
Speaker 2: it's some old school shit or if I'm just the

2350
02:04:32,880 --> 02:04:36,880
Speaker 2: last one left, but I was telling them, just trust me,

2351
02:04:37,640 --> 02:04:39,360
Speaker 2: and I got to think, and it's been so long

2352
02:04:39,440 --> 02:04:43,280
Speaker 2: niggas ain't even moving around with to trust me. It's

2353
02:04:43,280 --> 02:04:47,760
Speaker 2: something like niggas doing our niggas knowing I ain't really

2354
02:04:47,840 --> 02:04:49,960
Speaker 2: to be trusted. If it work, it worked, but ain't

2355
02:04:49,960 --> 02:04:53,560
Speaker 2: nobody saying like trust me, man, Like look trust what

2356
02:04:53,640 --> 02:04:56,680
Speaker 2: I'm look, I got you no matter what, trust me, man.

2357
02:04:59,000 --> 02:05:01,120
Speaker 2: It's like I'm the last that's a nigga that's standing

2358
02:05:01,240 --> 02:05:04,120
Speaker 2: on that. And I don't know if it's old school

2359
02:05:04,160 --> 02:05:06,960
Speaker 2: or if it's just my mindset, because I know that

2360
02:05:07,080 --> 02:05:10,200
Speaker 2: I'm I ain't even walking around telling people I got

2361
02:05:10,240 --> 02:05:13,280
Speaker 2: them unless I really believe and know that I got them.

2362
02:05:13,800 --> 02:05:15,800
Speaker 2: And I got to be willing to go somewhere that

2363
02:05:15,880 --> 02:05:18,200
Speaker 2: ain't comfortable for me for the people that I got.

2364
02:05:18,240 --> 02:05:20,440
Speaker 2: When I use that kind of verbage to you, I

2365
02:05:20,520 --> 02:05:23,040
Speaker 2: need for it to mean something to you, because ain't

2366
02:05:23,080 --> 02:05:24,760
Speaker 2: no way you can know what it meant for me

2367
02:05:24,840 --> 02:05:28,440
Speaker 2: to get that out of me, for me to get

2368
02:05:28,440 --> 02:05:32,160
Speaker 2: to a place where I say I got you. It's

2369
02:05:32,200 --> 02:05:34,800
Speaker 2: a lot of room in between that somebody done works

2370
02:05:34,840 --> 02:05:38,800
Speaker 2: some areas to make that happen, and something about the universe.

2371
02:05:38,840 --> 02:05:43,280
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that unless it's completely intentional, that it'll

2372
02:05:43,280 --> 02:05:46,640
Speaker 2: even allow people to use that verbage. You know, because

2373
02:05:46,680 --> 02:05:50,560
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I don't hear nobody saying trust me. Man,

2374
02:05:51,640 --> 02:05:54,720
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like trust what I'm telling you,

2375
02:05:54,800 --> 02:05:55,560
Speaker 2: like trust me?

2376
02:05:55,760 --> 02:05:56,680
Speaker 1: Though trust me.

2377
02:05:58,840 --> 02:06:01,560
Speaker 2: It's like the universe allow them to utter those words

2378
02:06:01,600 --> 02:06:04,920
Speaker 2: because they don't stand on anything. And if you stand

2379
02:06:04,960 --> 02:06:08,840
Speaker 2: on something, I think that that's that's in your allowance

2380
02:06:08,880 --> 02:06:12,000
Speaker 2: of vocabulary. Right, So when I speak to my people,

2381
02:06:12,040 --> 02:06:14,600
Speaker 2: I can use them kind of words trust and believe

2382
02:06:15,480 --> 02:06:16,640
Speaker 2: and look forward to.

2383
02:06:19,120 --> 02:06:20,320
Speaker 1: I can stand on that.

2384
02:06:22,280 --> 02:06:24,600
Speaker 2: It ain't a bunch of me me me talk, it's

2385
02:06:24,760 --> 02:06:28,320
Speaker 2: us talkt I know, the kind of gift God placed

2386
02:06:28,360 --> 02:06:31,040
Speaker 2: in my life is way too much for one.

2387
02:06:31,120 --> 02:06:37,320
Speaker 1: Man. You remember that that boosted too much for one? Two? Yeah,

2388
02:06:37,360 --> 02:06:39,200
Speaker 1: too much for one.

2389
02:06:40,480 --> 02:06:46,040
Speaker 2: What God done placed on me is a lot like

2390
02:06:46,200 --> 02:06:52,600
Speaker 2: I'm no longer even questioning or debating In my mind,

2391
02:06:53,760 --> 02:06:55,520
Speaker 2: am I one of the only people that has a

2392
02:06:55,560 --> 02:06:59,440
Speaker 2: microphone in front of them that resonates with the culture

2393
02:07:00,200 --> 02:07:02,840
Speaker 2: the way I speak. I'm far from the last one,

2394
02:07:02,880 --> 02:07:04,600
Speaker 2: but I'm one of the only ones that got a

2395
02:07:04,680 --> 02:07:07,760
Speaker 2: mic in front of them, and then one of the

2396
02:07:07,760 --> 02:07:08,880
Speaker 2: ones that's powerful.

2397
02:07:09,920 --> 02:07:10,400
Speaker 1: It's like.

2398
02:07:15,440 --> 02:07:18,080
Speaker 2: There's a certain level of responsibility to come with that.

2399
02:07:19,000 --> 02:07:21,440
Speaker 2: You see what I mean. I can't just be negligent

2400
02:07:21,520 --> 02:07:25,280
Speaker 2: with my behavior of my conversation. Right, we spend a

2401
02:07:25,280 --> 02:07:27,360
Speaker 2: little time on this, I'm talking. I was in my

2402
02:07:27,440 --> 02:07:29,840
Speaker 2: studio the other day and I was thinking to myself,

2403
02:07:30,440 --> 02:07:33,120
Speaker 2: I gotta be conscious because I was having such a

2404
02:07:33,200 --> 02:07:38,800
Speaker 2: great conversation about the Tucker Carson and Don Lemon shit.

2405
02:07:38,880 --> 02:07:40,640
Speaker 1: I'm talking. We went deep on it.

2406
02:07:41,960 --> 02:07:44,960
Speaker 2: I said, I have to start back bringing those conversations

2407
02:07:44,960 --> 02:07:48,200
Speaker 2: to the part because my audience, I need us to

2408
02:07:48,240 --> 02:07:50,400
Speaker 2: reach out a little more. Right, So we gotta start

2409
02:07:50,440 --> 02:07:53,040
Speaker 2: talking about politics, give our thinking on it.

2410
02:07:53,600 --> 02:07:55,840
Speaker 1: How does it affect people where we come from?

2411
02:07:55,920 --> 02:07:58,320
Speaker 2: How does it even affect Loan in its current state,

2412
02:07:58,400 --> 02:08:01,640
Speaker 2: in this business state where he don't really know exactly

2413
02:08:01,680 --> 02:08:05,000
Speaker 2: what's happening. I'm new in this, right, and so I'm

2414
02:08:05,000 --> 02:08:09,720
Speaker 2: paying attention though. See, you can learn anything if you

2415
02:08:09,760 --> 02:08:13,000
Speaker 2: pay attention. So I'm paying attention a lot of times.

2416
02:08:13,040 --> 02:08:15,080
Speaker 2: I spoke about it when I was talking to money bag.

2417
02:08:15,200 --> 02:08:16,400
Speaker 1: Yo.

2418
02:08:17,240 --> 02:08:20,480
Speaker 2: It's that I think the record industry puts you in

2419
02:08:20,560 --> 02:08:25,440
Speaker 2: a tornado, and it's on purpose. So you can't pay attention. Right,

2420
02:08:25,440 --> 02:08:27,680
Speaker 2: It's twenty two people coming at you. Hey, I hounder

2421
02:08:27,720 --> 02:08:30,080
Speaker 2: your wardrobe. Hey I handle your music. Hey, I handed

2422
02:08:30,160 --> 02:08:32,200
Speaker 2: the beat party of music. Hey I handle clearance. Hey

2423
02:08:32,200 --> 02:08:36,040
Speaker 2: I handle See all that is intentional. Just send me

2424
02:08:36,120 --> 02:08:38,600
Speaker 2: the person to handle the money. Let me examine him

2425
02:08:38,600 --> 02:08:41,480
Speaker 2: and spend a few days with him. I get somebody

2426
02:08:41,520 --> 02:08:43,600
Speaker 2: to deal with all the mother people. They know about

2427
02:08:43,640 --> 02:08:46,160
Speaker 2: what I like. If they got questions, I'll take the

2428
02:08:46,240 --> 02:08:49,640
Speaker 2: question from them. You gotta have a feelter process so

2429
02:08:49,680 --> 02:08:52,800
Speaker 2: you can focus on the things that really means something

2430
02:08:52,800 --> 02:08:57,120
Speaker 2: to your business, because they'll have you shopping, shopping, shopping.

2431
02:08:57,160 --> 02:08:59,520
Speaker 2: They ain't telling you that all these outfits they bringing

2432
02:08:59,600 --> 02:09:03,160
Speaker 2: over here, they charging your budget for it. You picking

2433
02:09:03,200 --> 02:09:06,440
Speaker 2: one outfit, they charge the budget for all ten outfits.

2434
02:09:06,520 --> 02:09:09,360
Speaker 2: Then shorty gave them shits away or reuse them for

2435
02:09:09,400 --> 02:09:10,520
Speaker 2: another shoot.

2436
02:09:10,880 --> 02:09:10,960
Speaker 15: But.

2437
02:09:12,440 --> 02:09:15,400
Speaker 1: Got the money off the books on your budget.

2438
02:09:16,080 --> 02:09:19,200
Speaker 2: So sometimes as a rapper, even now me as a podcaster.

2439
02:09:19,360 --> 02:09:22,760
Speaker 2: Now now that I'm dealing with books and percentages, and

2440
02:09:22,800 --> 02:09:26,080
Speaker 2: because I own all my shit, right, so I'm dealing

2441
02:09:26,080 --> 02:09:28,839
Speaker 2: with books and percentages. Now I got to look and say, Okay,

2442
02:09:29,640 --> 02:09:32,800
Speaker 2: you know what's happening with the money, and I got

2443
02:09:32,800 --> 02:09:36,680
Speaker 2: to pay attention to that. But thankful, in podcasting it

2444
02:09:36,720 --> 02:09:40,760
Speaker 2: ain't that much noise. It is when you get up high.

2445
02:09:40,800 --> 02:09:43,040
Speaker 2: But I'm in a situation where I got people around

2446
02:09:43,040 --> 02:09:46,000
Speaker 2: me that I feel like a fight for me and

2447
02:09:46,080 --> 02:09:48,600
Speaker 2: want the best for my brand, want me to survive

2448
02:09:48,720 --> 02:09:52,440
Speaker 2: and succeed, and they know they dealing with someone that's

2449
02:09:52,480 --> 02:09:54,960
Speaker 2: paying attention. So we have to fight and battle to

2450
02:09:55,000 --> 02:09:57,960
Speaker 2: figure out what's the right way to do it again

2451
02:09:58,080 --> 02:09:59,640
Speaker 2: as a way to do it, and then there's a

2452
02:09:59,720 --> 02:10:00,560
Speaker 2: right way to do it.

2453
02:10:00,600 --> 02:10:03,160
Speaker 1: And if we do it the right way, we gonna find.

2454
02:10:05,800 --> 02:10:08,640
Speaker 2: And so they bag these rep dues up and these

2455
02:10:08,720 --> 02:10:11,040
Speaker 2: athletes up in these corners. Hey, you got to count,

2456
02:10:11,040 --> 02:10:12,360
Speaker 2: you got an agent, you got this, you got that,

2457
02:10:12,480 --> 02:10:14,400
Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta deal with your linebacker coach. Then

2458
02:10:14,400 --> 02:10:16,640
Speaker 2: you linebacker coach gonna send you over to the defensive

2459
02:10:16,920 --> 02:10:19,800
Speaker 2: defensive coach. He'll heading you to the head coach, which

2460
02:10:19,840 --> 02:10:22,480
Speaker 2: then all heading you to the general managing and we'll

2461
02:10:22,560 --> 02:10:25,200
Speaker 2: kind of discuss it from there. And you're like, yo,

2462
02:10:25,280 --> 02:10:27,240
Speaker 2: that's a lot going on. I can't even look at

2463
02:10:27,240 --> 02:10:29,000
Speaker 2: them month what they say, I signed for a nine minion.

2464
02:10:29,120 --> 02:10:31,680
Speaker 2: Keep it rolling, Just keep going, babyhead down, keep rolling,

2465
02:10:31,760 --> 02:10:34,360
Speaker 2: keep hustling. That's what they taught us. Keep hustling, keep hustling,

2466
02:10:34,400 --> 02:10:37,879
Speaker 2: keep hustling. They ain't taught us nothing about pay attention

2467
02:10:37,960 --> 02:10:41,240
Speaker 2: to the bus, especially in the league where you're dealing

2468
02:10:41,280 --> 02:10:44,400
Speaker 2: with your physical ability in order to pay your bills.

2469
02:10:44,440 --> 02:10:47,040
Speaker 2: You got to know that any moment, the universe can

2470
02:10:47,120 --> 02:10:52,800
Speaker 2: call for this to cease. Sometimes it ceased for six weeks.

2471
02:10:52,800 --> 02:10:55,720
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's a two week injury. Sometimes it's a full

2472
02:10:55,800 --> 02:10:59,720
Speaker 2: week injury. But sometimes it's that's your last play right there,

2473
02:10:59,760 --> 02:11:03,640
Speaker 2: Low of one. What you've been doing with the money

2474
02:11:03,640 --> 02:11:09,680
Speaker 2: the entire time you've been balling. You've been balling. Huh,

2475
02:11:09,920 --> 02:11:13,160
Speaker 2: you ain't turn into no boss, I'm the nigga. Put

2476
02:11:13,200 --> 02:11:16,240
Speaker 2: that game down. You got to know all that balling

2477
02:11:16,320 --> 02:11:21,200
Speaker 2: shit that go out with baby and them beatriss them.

2478
02:11:21,240 --> 02:11:25,640
Speaker 2: They understand. Yeah, yeah he know, he yeah, He'll tell

2479
02:11:25,640 --> 02:11:28,480
Speaker 2: a young nigga. Yeah, spend that money, but nigga, make

2480
02:11:28,600 --> 02:11:32,920
Speaker 2: molding your spind That's part of the vibration. But somewhere

2481
02:11:32,960 --> 02:11:35,800
Speaker 2: along the lines, they got confused and they just said, Nigga,

2482
02:11:35,800 --> 02:11:38,440
Speaker 2: if I can handle all these bills, I'm balling Nigga.

2483
02:11:40,840 --> 02:11:44,520
Speaker 2: And so the athletes, when the universe called for it,

2484
02:11:44,640 --> 02:11:47,320
Speaker 2: decease and stop or hold on, or for you to

2485
02:11:47,360 --> 02:11:50,160
Speaker 2: get traded or get caught up in a scandal because

2486
02:11:50,160 --> 02:11:53,040
Speaker 2: your love life or whatever may happen to you that

2487
02:11:53,320 --> 02:11:58,600
Speaker 2: interfields with your income, then what do you do? Have

2488
02:11:58,680 --> 02:12:04,720
Speaker 2: you been building something they can withstand the wind and

2489
02:12:04,840 --> 02:12:09,160
Speaker 2: football shit, soon as am motherfucker blower, soon as am

2490
02:12:09,280 --> 02:12:13,600
Speaker 2: wind blow on your NFL career, your NBA career, any

2491
02:12:13,720 --> 02:12:16,080
Speaker 2: career is dealing with these corporate structures.

2492
02:12:16,120 --> 02:12:17,600
Speaker 1: Soon as any wind come.

2493
02:12:18,240 --> 02:12:21,240
Speaker 2: They got to blow that one down.

2494
02:12:21,600 --> 02:12:22,920
Speaker 1: While I'm next to y'all.

2495
02:12:23,360 --> 02:12:26,240
Speaker 2: Although I want the best for y'all, I also want

2496
02:12:26,280 --> 02:12:30,680
Speaker 2: the best for me. So I gotta be building while

2497
02:12:30,680 --> 02:12:33,320
Speaker 2: me and you doing our thud thielder, we're still doing

2498
02:12:33,360 --> 02:12:35,520
Speaker 2: our thug thisler, but I got to build something in

2499
02:12:35,560 --> 02:12:38,800
Speaker 2: case some wind come, in case they pop out with

2500
02:12:38,840 --> 02:12:41,800
Speaker 2: some scandal, in case they pop up and send something

2501
02:12:41,840 --> 02:12:47,120
Speaker 2: my way that my advertisers don't understand that the corporate

2502
02:12:47,160 --> 02:12:48,760
Speaker 2: structure can't aligned with.

2503
02:12:51,360 --> 02:12:51,480
Speaker 15: That.

2504
02:12:51,560 --> 02:12:56,680
Speaker 2: They cut my resources off. Am I in a position

2505
02:12:56,800 --> 02:13:00,400
Speaker 2: to have something worth keeping? Have I built something worth

2506
02:13:00,800 --> 02:13:04,560
Speaker 2: broadcasting about? Or have I been bullshitting in these other

2507
02:13:04,600 --> 02:13:09,800
Speaker 2: people money swimming in these other people's structure. I want

2508
02:13:09,800 --> 02:13:12,640
Speaker 2: to be clear to the youngsters, though, you gotta be juggling.

2509
02:13:12,720 --> 02:13:17,240
Speaker 2: You got to do both things at once, because if

2510
02:13:17,240 --> 02:13:19,840
Speaker 2: they just see you you using them to build you,

2511
02:13:19,920 --> 02:13:25,240
Speaker 2: and you ain't building them, that don't fly either. When

2512
02:13:25,240 --> 02:13:28,000
Speaker 2: you're in a contract with people and you involved with people,

2513
02:13:28,080 --> 02:13:31,000
Speaker 2: you gotta do some things that honor their contract. I

2514
02:13:31,000 --> 02:13:34,880
Speaker 2: don't mind you building you, but you gotta You gotta

2515
02:13:34,920 --> 02:13:38,200
Speaker 2: focus on our business too now, and I would like

2516
02:13:38,280 --> 02:13:40,720
Speaker 2: to see you focus in a way where this is

2517
02:13:40,800 --> 02:13:44,720
Speaker 2: what's building that thing that you love so much. See

2518
02:13:44,760 --> 02:13:46,920
Speaker 2: that's the problem, y'all don't know how to treat something

2519
02:13:46,920 --> 02:13:51,920
Speaker 2: that's helping you. It's another reason why people don't like helping.

2520
02:13:52,000 --> 02:13:54,560
Speaker 2: Look how they treat the people that help. They treat

2521
02:13:54,640 --> 02:13:58,200
Speaker 2: niggas that help like the helpless after they get the help,

2522
02:13:58,280 --> 02:13:59,400
Speaker 2: before they get to help.

2523
02:13:59,400 --> 02:14:00,520
Speaker 1: It's a smoke screen.

2524
02:14:01,080 --> 02:14:03,400
Speaker 2: After they get the help they treat the helpers like

2525
02:14:03,480 --> 02:14:08,440
Speaker 2: the helpless or let you say no, let you not

2526
02:14:08,560 --> 02:14:11,160
Speaker 2: have it in the budget, let your money be tied up,

2527
02:14:12,000 --> 02:14:15,120
Speaker 2: Let it be tax timing. I'm just uncomfortable with sending

2528
02:14:15,200 --> 02:14:17,240
Speaker 2: something out. You know what I got to give away

2529
02:14:17,760 --> 02:14:21,040
Speaker 2: just because I hustle good last year. You know what

2530
02:14:21,080 --> 02:14:24,240
Speaker 2: the tax people want because I hustle good last year,

2531
02:14:24,600 --> 02:14:27,560
Speaker 2: and all these niggas holling black power. But ain't nobody

2532
02:14:27,840 --> 02:14:31,600
Speaker 2: letting me know no tax information. Ain't nobody reached out

2533
02:14:31,680 --> 02:14:33,600
Speaker 2: told me how to structure the business where I can

2534
02:14:33,680 --> 02:14:37,960
Speaker 2: cut into the tax game. Because these niggas with the

2535
02:14:37,960 --> 02:14:40,480
Speaker 2: real money, no hustling ain't enough. They know I got

2536
02:14:40,480 --> 02:14:42,360
Speaker 2: to play the pin game. They know I got to

2537
02:14:42,640 --> 02:14:45,480
Speaker 2: play the information game. At some point, I'm dealing with

2538
02:14:45,520 --> 02:14:46,240
Speaker 2: this level of.

2539
02:14:46,440 --> 02:14:48,480
Speaker 1: Wares in zolls, Nigga.

2540
02:14:48,520 --> 02:14:50,280
Speaker 2: When you get a certain amount of money, all this

2541
02:14:50,400 --> 02:14:54,080
Speaker 2: shit ain't number ones in z rolls, and so you

2542
02:14:54,160 --> 02:14:56,200
Speaker 2: gotta get on the side of it, trumping them on.

2543
02:14:57,320 --> 02:14:59,920
Speaker 2: I don't let wigger room may tax shit they got

2544
02:15:00,120 --> 02:15:02,400
Speaker 2: going on, but they'll let a nigga get all the

2545
02:15:02,480 --> 02:15:05,240
Speaker 2: money they want. What a black pile ware see I'm

2546
02:15:05,280 --> 02:15:08,520
Speaker 2: examining in these niggas at this point, cause I come

2547
02:15:08,600 --> 02:15:09,800
Speaker 2: in looking for the information.

2548
02:15:09,960 --> 02:15:12,360
Speaker 1: I know better. I know better.

2549
02:15:12,520 --> 02:15:16,280
Speaker 2: You're gonna get further look huh huh for the look

2550
02:15:16,360 --> 02:15:18,200
Speaker 2: hanh you want to throw them on your shit for

2551
02:15:18,400 --> 02:15:24,520
Speaker 2: the look huh. Not only hey, come on family, You

2552
02:15:24,560 --> 02:15:27,680
Speaker 2: would think that these niggas that been having money or

2553
02:15:27,720 --> 02:15:31,120
Speaker 2: see you get up, see you get up.

2554
02:15:31,200 --> 02:15:34,360
Speaker 1: Now come about the water. Huh.

2555
02:15:34,440 --> 02:15:36,680
Speaker 2: I done got up on some of what we're doing.

2556
02:15:36,960 --> 02:15:38,800
Speaker 2: You would think they'll try to lead you over here

2557
02:15:39,200 --> 02:15:41,560
Speaker 2: in the door, sayment, go in there. Look, I know

2558
02:15:41,600 --> 02:15:44,760
Speaker 2: they get your taxes right, get your business shit right.

2559
02:15:45,400 --> 02:15:47,960
Speaker 2: Make sure they structure you like an is corp. Right,

2560
02:15:48,080 --> 02:15:50,280
Speaker 2: make sure you put everything in the trust. Make sure

2561
02:15:50,320 --> 02:15:52,880
Speaker 2: that all your assets go in the trust. Make sure

2562
02:15:52,880 --> 02:15:55,560
Speaker 2: all the cars you buying is under this, and like,

2563
02:15:55,960 --> 02:15:59,560
Speaker 2: give a nigga some of that game, because you know,

2564
02:15:59,720 --> 02:16:01,520
Speaker 2: damn I'm well hustling ain't enough.

2565
02:16:01,920 --> 02:16:03,440
Speaker 1: And so at some point.

2566
02:16:04,280 --> 02:16:08,640
Speaker 2: You got to release the habits of getting caught in tornadoes, right,

2567
02:16:09,120 --> 02:16:10,760
Speaker 2: and at some point you got to know how to

2568
02:16:10,800 --> 02:16:12,600
Speaker 2: be present in the moment. I think that's one of

2569
02:16:12,640 --> 02:16:15,240
Speaker 2: the best skills that I can tell somebody to have, right,

2570
02:16:15,480 --> 02:16:21,280
Speaker 2: because I try to find skills that can transcend situation. Right,

2571
02:16:21,360 --> 02:16:24,680
Speaker 2: they can kind of be valuable no matter where you

2572
02:16:24,800 --> 02:16:28,440
Speaker 2: place it, right, And so the ability to read the

2573
02:16:28,600 --> 02:16:32,520
Speaker 2: room and certain things that can give you a social

2574
02:16:32,640 --> 02:16:37,480
Speaker 2: advantage or just an advantage over people in regards to

2575
02:16:37,560 --> 02:16:38,279
Speaker 2: life's skill.

2576
02:16:38,520 --> 02:16:38,760
Speaker 1: Right.

2577
02:16:38,879 --> 02:16:41,760
Speaker 2: I try to think about this shit. So I never

2578
02:16:41,840 --> 02:16:46,120
Speaker 2: understood the role the richest. You know, even if I

2579
02:16:46,160 --> 02:16:49,640
Speaker 2: said that's kind of don't hit right, the role the richest,

2580
02:16:49,640 --> 02:16:54,560
Speaker 2: that really don't really mean a motherfucking thing. I need

2581
02:16:54,600 --> 02:16:57,200
Speaker 2: people within the side of my voice to understand. You

2582
02:16:57,480 --> 02:16:59,560
Speaker 2: just can't go get the money. And that's what they

2583
02:16:59,560 --> 02:17:01,760
Speaker 2: taught us in the hood. Sake, go get the money.

2584
02:17:01,840 --> 02:17:03,760
Speaker 2: They told him we don't need credit. I remember it

2585
02:17:03,840 --> 02:17:06,160
Speaker 2: was a thing in the hood. Man, we got cash.

2586
02:17:06,200 --> 02:17:09,680
Speaker 2: I wish I would. Yeah, man, I'm having you know,

2587
02:17:09,720 --> 02:17:12,920
Speaker 2: as you get in this structure of life, you get

2588
02:17:12,920 --> 02:17:16,600
Speaker 2: to understand and man, everybody just hustling credit. They hustling

2589
02:17:17,320 --> 02:17:22,000
Speaker 2: wants and zeros and numbers and credit and that money

2590
02:17:22,040 --> 02:17:24,800
Speaker 2: thing is cool, But what you had to do, what

2591
02:17:24,920 --> 02:17:28,040
Speaker 2: you swapped for that money wasn't worth it. I'm dealing

2592
02:17:28,040 --> 02:17:31,640
Speaker 2: with niggas in prison now. Now I had to tell them,

2593
02:17:31,680 --> 02:17:33,640
Speaker 2: you know what we swapped for that little money ain't

2594
02:17:33,640 --> 02:17:37,080
Speaker 2: worth it. You know when I'm getting down to read

2595
02:17:37,200 --> 02:17:41,120
Speaker 2: certain things, certain ads structures, and getting to speak in

2596
02:17:41,160 --> 02:17:44,760
Speaker 2: front of my loved ones, because that's what my supporters is,

2597
02:17:45,240 --> 02:17:47,400
Speaker 2: you understand me, And I get to speak in front

2598
02:17:47,440 --> 02:17:50,400
Speaker 2: of them and getting paid a certain number, you know

2599
02:17:50,480 --> 02:17:52,760
Speaker 2: what we did for that money, But it was too much.

2600
02:17:54,040 --> 02:17:58,520
Speaker 2: We gave them too much for that little money. We

2601
02:17:58,640 --> 02:18:01,240
Speaker 2: gave too much. We gave our life to try the

2602
02:18:01,320 --> 02:18:04,720
Speaker 2: ball out there. Then they'll give us a couple of

2603
02:18:04,760 --> 02:18:08,520
Speaker 2: good summers. Most of us that go down had to

2604
02:18:08,560 --> 02:18:11,199
Speaker 2: hit reset, come out, try to do it again, because

2605
02:18:11,200 --> 02:18:13,720
Speaker 2: you're addicted to the fast lane. You addicted to what

2606
02:18:13,760 --> 02:18:18,920
Speaker 2: it felt like being the man, a real dope boy

2607
02:18:18,920 --> 02:18:21,920
Speaker 2: that really got some paper outside. He really an entrepreneur

2608
02:18:22,000 --> 02:18:26,000
Speaker 2: at the highest level home running a building. He really

2609
02:18:26,000 --> 02:18:28,240
Speaker 2: addicted to that. He don't know he can find that

2610
02:18:28,400 --> 02:18:31,280
Speaker 2: somewhere else, but I gotta tell him. You can find

2611
02:18:31,320 --> 02:18:34,960
Speaker 2: that selling pools, Nigga. You can find that cleaning buildings.

2612
02:18:35,360 --> 02:18:37,880
Speaker 2: You can find that with a restaurant. You can find

2613
02:18:37,959 --> 02:18:40,720
Speaker 2: that with a barber shop. You can find that being

2614
02:18:40,760 --> 02:18:44,360
Speaker 2: a rapper being a podcaster, being an athlete. You can

2615
02:18:44,400 --> 02:18:50,080
Speaker 2: find that same feeling in selling furniture and doing a

2616
02:18:50,120 --> 02:18:53,039
Speaker 2: whole kind of other hustles. And I think that most

2617
02:18:53,120 --> 02:18:56,039
Speaker 2: human beings is nothing. It's just like a straight dog

2618
02:18:56,120 --> 02:18:59,600
Speaker 2: or cat that been fed out of his house. And

2619
02:18:59,680 --> 02:19:03,039
Speaker 2: because the first chance they had at being an entrepreneur

2620
02:19:03,160 --> 02:19:07,000
Speaker 2: was industry, it's like they get addicted to that. Those

2621
02:19:07,000 --> 02:19:09,720
Speaker 2: of you that's worked for yourself and been successful, you know,

2622
02:19:09,800 --> 02:19:10,840
Speaker 2: it's different when you.

2623
02:19:12,360 --> 02:19:14,400
Speaker 1: Want a motherfucker trying to get you to clock in

2624
02:19:16,560 --> 02:19:18,039
Speaker 1: what you mean, I can't do what.

2625
02:19:20,280 --> 02:19:22,480
Speaker 2: And I done been successful on my own to get

2626
02:19:22,560 --> 02:19:25,520
Speaker 2: rough for me to operate in that so called structure

2627
02:19:25,600 --> 02:19:28,879
Speaker 2: that they have. And so their first opportunity that being

2628
02:19:28,879 --> 02:19:33,120
Speaker 2: an entrepreneur was one of their loved ones had a

2629
02:19:33,160 --> 02:19:35,280
Speaker 2: pack that said, look, if you can sell it at

2630
02:19:35,320 --> 02:19:38,280
Speaker 2: this number, we buy it at this number. And if

2631
02:19:38,280 --> 02:19:40,760
Speaker 2: you can sell it at that number without you know,

2632
02:19:40,840 --> 02:19:43,920
Speaker 2: getting caught, or give it out on credit and get paid,

2633
02:19:43,920 --> 02:19:46,080
Speaker 2: however you do it. If you can make this amount

2634
02:19:46,160 --> 02:19:49,240
Speaker 2: of this, your profit is this, you keep that do

2635
02:19:49,440 --> 02:19:53,000
Speaker 2: that enough times, then you now position to buy your own.

2636
02:19:53,040 --> 02:19:54,960
Speaker 2: When you buy your own, the number go down a

2637
02:19:55,040 --> 02:19:57,520
Speaker 2: little bit. The more you buy might go down a

2638
02:19:57,520 --> 02:20:00,680
Speaker 2: little more. Depending on who you is. I might throw

2639
02:20:00,760 --> 02:20:02,959
Speaker 2: and match what you mind, because I see you getting

2640
02:20:02,959 --> 02:20:07,480
Speaker 2: off and I really truly need help getting it off right.

2641
02:20:08,160 --> 02:20:09,920
Speaker 2: I remember as a youngster, I used to think that

2642
02:20:10,080 --> 02:20:12,280
Speaker 2: was live coming from the plug. Now you don't want

2643
02:20:12,280 --> 02:20:15,039
Speaker 2: to hold all this shit nigga getting two hundred up? Man,

2644
02:20:15,080 --> 02:20:18,959
Speaker 2: I need to get these shits off of me, especially

2645
02:20:19,000 --> 02:20:21,240
Speaker 2: the little niggas. I know hustle good. So I don't

2646
02:20:21,280 --> 02:20:24,120
Speaker 2: know if I need that identify love in that or

2647
02:20:24,240 --> 02:20:27,120
Speaker 2: just being business. It's business now. Here's the thing as

2648
02:20:27,200 --> 02:20:30,280
Speaker 2: the other nigga to mow you buy? Yeah, so you

2649
02:20:30,480 --> 02:20:33,440
Speaker 2: in position now right and so again biting into that

2650
02:20:33,520 --> 02:20:37,000
Speaker 2: you become an entrepreneur. But you did it in the

2651
02:20:37,040 --> 02:20:40,000
Speaker 2: wrong place. And here's the old saying, ain't nothing wrong

2652
02:20:40,040 --> 02:20:41,760
Speaker 2: with the aim, just changed the target.

2653
02:20:41,840 --> 02:20:42,800
Speaker 1: So if you take that.

2654
02:20:42,800 --> 02:20:46,600
Speaker 2: Same understanding and apply it over here, man, it worked

2655
02:20:46,600 --> 02:20:48,280
Speaker 2: the same way, the same feeling.

2656
02:20:48,320 --> 02:20:49,120
Speaker 1: Get up this morning, man.

2657
02:20:49,160 --> 02:20:52,560
Speaker 2: I'm moved twenty two pools yesterday, nigga, I made twelve

2658
02:20:52,640 --> 02:20:53,640
Speaker 2: hundred a pool.

2659
02:20:53,400 --> 02:20:56,760
Speaker 1: And I fixed eighteen cards yesterday.

2660
02:20:56,840 --> 02:21:00,600
Speaker 2: I cut eighteen niggas hair yesterday, did twenty two private

2661
02:21:00,640 --> 02:21:02,160
Speaker 2: cookings this month.

2662
02:21:02,280 --> 02:21:04,240
Speaker 1: Damn thear one a day, right, I may.

2663
02:21:04,680 --> 02:21:09,879
Speaker 2: And it's just it's that same feeling, especially doing something

2664
02:21:09,920 --> 02:21:13,640
Speaker 2: that you enjoyed doing and you gotta put work in.

2665
02:21:13,760 --> 02:21:15,560
Speaker 2: But you've put work in if you came from the

2666
02:21:15,600 --> 02:21:17,640
Speaker 2: street unless you've been blessed in, And if you've been

2667
02:21:17,680 --> 02:21:20,960
Speaker 2: blessed in, you ain't a hunter, so you can't you've been.

2668
02:21:20,600 --> 02:21:22,760
Speaker 1: You should have been. I should have been lost, you.

2669
02:21:24,200 --> 02:21:24,360
Speaker 20: Naw.

2670
02:21:24,520 --> 02:21:28,400
Speaker 1: This is for the hunters. This ain't for my homeboy.

2671
02:21:27,920 --> 02:21:30,880
Speaker 2: Had it and blessed me in no disrespect to y'all,

2672
02:21:30,920 --> 02:21:32,480
Speaker 2: but this is for the guys though.

2673
02:21:33,600 --> 02:21:34,640
Speaker 1: This for the ones.

2674
02:21:34,720 --> 02:21:37,600
Speaker 2: Though they figured that thing got and thought you niggas

2675
02:21:37,640 --> 02:21:39,320
Speaker 2: was the police, so they didn't want to be a

2676
02:21:39,320 --> 02:21:44,160
Speaker 2: part of your crew anyway. This for them, guys. You

2677
02:21:44,200 --> 02:21:46,440
Speaker 2: see what I'm saying. I'm gonna just spend my money.

2678
02:21:47,680 --> 02:21:54,080
Speaker 2: This for them, guys, you know. And my real home

2679
02:21:54,200 --> 02:21:56,680
Speaker 2: is that was in position before me and helped me.

2680
02:21:56,760 --> 02:21:58,560
Speaker 2: They know that I went out at some point it

2681
02:21:58,640 --> 02:22:02,039
Speaker 2: did my own thing. I got after circle and became

2682
02:22:02,120 --> 02:22:07,320
Speaker 2: the circle, you know. And this is just verifiable stories

2683
02:22:07,400 --> 02:22:10,400
Speaker 2: from loan, you know. I just hopefully give y'all a

2684
02:22:10,400 --> 02:22:12,680
Speaker 2: little game. Y'all can understand. You know, I'm gonna get

2685
02:22:12,720 --> 02:22:14,680
Speaker 2: out of here for the day. I appreciate everybody that

2686
02:22:14,720 --> 02:22:18,640
Speaker 2: were tuned in. It's up that podcast. Shout out to

2687
02:22:18,680 --> 02:22:22,120
Speaker 2: the Patreon people were working on our own website. Right now,

2688
02:22:22,440 --> 02:22:26,760
Speaker 2: we're finna pipe that up. Everybody that supports me. I

2689
02:22:26,760 --> 02:22:29,000
Speaker 2: got a lot of love for y'all, you know what

2690
02:22:29,000 --> 02:22:30,800
Speaker 2: I mean. I want to say that from the bottom

2691
02:22:30,800 --> 02:22:34,920
Speaker 2: of my heart. It's up there. Podcast is changing, Podcasting

2692
02:22:35,120 --> 02:22:39,760
Speaker 2: is changing the game. We're gonna sign out, but I

2693
02:22:39,800 --> 02:22:42,160
Speaker 2: do want to say, man, what I'm doing in podcasting.

2694
02:22:42,520 --> 02:22:45,520
Speaker 2: I just hope y'all appreciate, right. I hope y'all understand

2695
02:22:45,560 --> 02:22:49,199
Speaker 2: the impact. I hope y'all understand it's never been done before.

2696
02:22:49,640 --> 02:22:52,760
Speaker 2: I hope y'all understand what it's costing me to do it.

2697
02:22:52,800 --> 02:22:56,360
Speaker 2: And I don't mean financially. I mean I'm someone that's

2698
02:22:56,360 --> 02:23:01,160
Speaker 2: did this for over three years straight of a repeated

2699
02:23:01,200 --> 02:23:04,560
Speaker 2: the same thing. Never came with the little bullshit lines,

2700
02:23:05,480 --> 02:23:09,240
Speaker 2: you know, never came with the bullshit topics. We really

2701
02:23:09,280 --> 02:23:14,480
Speaker 2: had genuine conversations every week, and if you can't support that,

2702
02:23:15,280 --> 02:23:19,240
Speaker 2: then I really can't understand why you even indulging in

2703
02:23:19,320 --> 02:23:22,680
Speaker 2: this because Lord knows, you get something from these things.

2704
02:23:22,959 --> 02:23:25,240
Speaker 2: Even when I listen back, I get shipped from it.

2705
02:23:25,800 --> 02:23:28,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, dude, you kicking that shit up there,

2706
02:23:28,640 --> 02:23:30,840
Speaker 2: and I ain't you know, I hope that don't come

2707
02:23:30,840 --> 02:23:34,080
Speaker 2: off arrogant to my supporters, right because that ain't how

2708
02:23:34,080 --> 02:23:37,760
Speaker 2: I'm talking. But I literally be listening listening sometimes like, nah,

2709
02:23:37,840 --> 02:23:39,039
Speaker 2: he kicking that shit.

2710
02:23:39,600 --> 02:23:43,600
Speaker 1: That boy, that nigga got supreme understanding.

2711
02:23:42,920 --> 02:23:45,959
Speaker 2: To be just crawling down the street like it and

2712
02:23:46,040 --> 02:23:49,600
Speaker 2: literally don't got no notes, that boy talking about this

2713
02:23:49,720 --> 02:23:53,880
Speaker 2: shit and ain't got no fucking notes and going and

2714
02:23:53,920 --> 02:23:57,360
Speaker 2: he killing it. He pulling analogies out, and man, this

2715
02:23:57,480 --> 02:24:00,760
Speaker 2: dude pulling history out, and man, this shit is. This

2716
02:24:00,840 --> 02:24:02,800
Speaker 2: is how I'm looking at it. Like if I was

2717
02:24:03,040 --> 02:24:08,240
Speaker 2: one of y'all, how I enjoy podcasting, how I enjoy content,

2718
02:24:08,400 --> 02:24:12,680
Speaker 2: I'd be like, yo, I will really appreciate what this

2719
02:24:12,760 --> 02:24:17,160
Speaker 2: dude is doing. And I'm talking to third person. Of course,

2720
02:24:17,160 --> 02:24:19,360
Speaker 2: you can. You gotta be a podcaster to be able

2721
02:24:19,360 --> 02:24:22,480
Speaker 2: to do that. That's a hell of a That is

2722
02:24:22,520 --> 02:24:25,360
Speaker 2: a hell of a tool, you know what I'm saying.

2723
02:24:26,200 --> 02:24:29,800
Speaker 2: But I see y'all next week. Man, appreciate y'all. I

2724
02:24:29,840 --> 02:24:32,320
Speaker 2: got real love for y'all. Y'all stay tapped in with me.

2725
02:24:32,360 --> 02:24:34,280
Speaker 2: We're gonna figure everything out on God.

2726
02:24:34,480 --> 02:24:35,080
Speaker 1: Just kid it