1 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys. 2 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: Some of you love this place I'm at right now. 3 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: Some of you hate this place I'm at right now, 4 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 2: which is beautiful because it gives me a job. But 5 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 2: the thing about it is, sometimes you can just get 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 2: a head coach and talk to both parties. And we're 7 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 2: actually going to do that on the show tonight, and 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 2: a little while Morio Cristo Paul is going to join us. 9 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: We're about as extended a conversation as I've had, I mean, 10 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 2: big game days just offset. I haven't talked to him 11 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 2: for an extended fifty minute period of time in my life, 12 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 2: and yet the head coach got him, and yet the 13 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: head coach of Miami did it for us tonight. So 14 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: we're going to do that. We're going to talk about 15 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 2: a whole lot more more jampacked, we're high atop the 16 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 2: University of Miami. But also we've got some other things 17 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: to talk about. Talent, you know that ty word everyone 18 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 2: throws around. We got out talented, they got more talent. 19 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: Sometimes I think some people are kind of full of 20 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: it when they talk about that. I just want to 21 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: talk about the real fifteen most talented bosters in college 22 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: football tonight and the message that the blue chip ratio 23 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: is sending us. Recruiting is on fire. Those of you 24 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: who grew up on December and January being the heart 25 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 2: of recruiting season, it's now it's June, it's July. This 26 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: building we're in is crawling, or will be in about 27 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 2: the next twenty four hours with elite prospects from all 28 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: around the country. May be, by the way, one of 29 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: the biggest official visit weekends in Miami history coming on. 30 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about that in a whole lot 31 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: more later on. Bold Predictions are back tonight, and as 32 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: I said, we'll have Moriochristbaul on the show for a 33 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: quite a while in a little while. Wainsboro, Pa Is 34 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 2: tuned in, Key West, Florida, Hampstead, North Carolina, Folesome, California. Hey, 35 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: I don't know, you live your life the way you 36 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 2: want to, but if you haven't been following us on 37 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: the socials the last few days at Late Kick, Josh, 38 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: there is so much what we would call ancillary content 39 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 2: out there was just a fancy word for more that 40 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: we don't show you on air that you're missing. I mean, 41 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: it's really good, Like even my mom follows so why 42 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: in the world would you not be following at Lake 43 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: kick Josh Okay into this because we got a lot 44 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: to get to tonight. It's going to be a really 45 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: long show, but a really jam packed show because there 46 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: is no season around here. You know how a lot 47 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: of people talk about talent all the time. We definitely 48 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: need the pieces to win. A talent doesn't guarantee you wins. 49 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: Like Mema always said, a good foundation does not guarantee 50 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 2: a mansion. But no mansion is built without a foundation, 51 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 2: Thank you, Mema, and she was right about that. And likewise, 52 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:26,119 Speaker 2: with college football rosters, not every five star upon five 53 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: star equals eventual national championship. But yet every national championship 54 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: winning team you look back and you can take away 55 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: certain characteristics from them. And b Elliott does the whole 56 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 2: blue chip ratio thing every year, which we're about seventy 57 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: two hours post release of for twenty twenty three, But 58 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: I haven't gotten to speak to you since that came out, 59 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 2: And so I always like to look at it and 60 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 2: there are some familiar faces at the top, and sometimes 61 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 2: there are some new arrivals and maybe some that just 62 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: fell off the cliff. Florida State's not in this thing, 63 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: for example, and yet they're one of the favorites in 64 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: this conference. In the ACC they're a fringe playoff content 65 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 2: under this year. So what does this all mean, Like, 66 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: how much talent do you really have to have, according 67 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: to history to win a national championship? Well, the blue 68 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: chip ratio if you're listening on POD, I'll explain it 69 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: to you. If you're watching, I have it on the 70 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: screen right here for you. It's just the teams that 71 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: have recruited more blue chip players than not. So we're 72 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: looking at your roster four and five star players. Do 73 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 2: you have more of those than you have players rated 74 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 2: below that. It's like the most simple formula ever, but 75 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 2: history shows that if you don't, you're not winning a 76 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 2: national championship, or at least you haven't. I'm sure there 77 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: could always be one in the future. Like I said, 78 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: no one, and I know what the comment section is 79 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: going to look like, but I'll repeat it anyway. No 80 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: one is suggesting that this is the end all, be 81 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 2: all and this will be your top fifteen at the 82 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: end of the year. It's nothing like that. But history 83 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: has shown us that having a roster that meets a 84 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: certain line in the sand is a prerequisite to winning 85 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: a national championship. Okay, So first thing that stood out 86 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: to me when I was looking at this this week 87 00:03:56,080 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 2: is Clemson still right there? In fact, Texas A and 88 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: M's right there. I think Clemson being there may not 89 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 2: shock a ton of you. Although there's a feel out 90 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: there in the neighborhood that they may have fallen off 91 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 2: a little bit in terms of just raw talent, they 92 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: haven't fallen off all that much at all. Now what 93 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: you do with that talent, how it's developed, Is it 94 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 2: dispersed evenly over key position groups? 95 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: I e. 96 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: Wide receiver? Maybe not so much lately, although they've had 97 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: quite a wide receiver over the past week on the 98 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 2: recruiting trail. We'll talk about that later in the show. 99 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 2: But look at Clemson. There're seventy two percent of their 100 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 2: roster made up A four and five star, and likewise 101 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 2: Texas A and M. It's the fourth highest team graded 102 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 2: on here. Bama's in like another universe, Ohio State tops 103 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: in the Big Ten, George is there at seventy seven percent. 104 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: And then you just like. 105 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 2: Drop your pen and you say, why did they put 106 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: A and M's logo there? Plus Texas. A and M 107 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: is at seventy seven percent or seventy three percent right now. 108 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 2: So then that makes you stroke your chin and you 109 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 2: just ask yourself, what are they doing? You want to 110 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 2: know why I talk about there being no patience. I'm 111 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 2: the one that always preaches patients. There's no patience there 112 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 2: because you got a coaching staff. You got to head 113 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 2: coach over half a decade into his tenure with allegedly 114 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: one of the most talented rosters in America. And the 115 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:11,119 Speaker 2: reason that I say allegedly sarcastically is because it's true. 116 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 2: Those kids that are on A and M's roster, they 117 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 2: all had offers from Georgia, they all had offers from 118 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 2: Florida State and Miami and Ohio State, so everyone wanted them. 119 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 2: So the whole country wasn't fooled by those kids. They 120 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 2: just haven't put them together and haven't developed them. And 121 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: also offensively, they've been operating from a playbook that was 122 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 2: developed in the depression era. And so they look to 123 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: rectify that with the hiring of Bobby Petrino, which will 124 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: be ultra interesting because it's the exact same thing Clemson 125 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: just did. They just went and got Garrett Riley from TCU. 126 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: If you want like one of the big storylines, for 127 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: the storyline, crowd out there to watch, it's look at 128 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: the OC situation in College Station, look at the OC 129 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: situation in Clemson, South Carolina, and then understand if one 130 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 2: of them goes like that, if one of them goes bang, 131 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: the ingredients are already there, so we understand what it 132 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 2: takes to cook. You got a shelf full of you 133 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: got a cabinet full of it in two places that 134 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 2: underachieved mightily offensively last year. What could happen you lose 135 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 2: five games by six points or less if your A 136 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 2: and M last year? What could happen if, all of 137 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: a sudden you bump up your offensive production by like 138 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 2: fifteen percent. I don't know. I mean, I guess math 139 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 2: would indicate a lot of close wins all of the sudden. 140 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 2: I also look at Bama, and it's really really a 141 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 2: fun time of year right now. If you're me, is 142 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 2: all I have to do is just talk in the 143 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 2: mic and say, well, I look at the six highest 144 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:34,799 Speaker 2: rated classes of all time, all time, repeat for emphasis. 145 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 2: Three of them are baked into Bama's roster right now. 146 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: And yet the streets are telling me they've kind of 147 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 2: fallen off a little bit. Roster's not quite what it 148 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 2: used to be. And I'm like, I could listen to you, 149 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: I could look at what the calculator says, I could 150 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 2: trust my instincts, and I think what a lot of 151 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 2: people are seeing is they're seeing the quarterback position in 152 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 2: a state of flux, and then they're kind of cast 153 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: in that shade across that entire roster. And meanwhile, I 154 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 2: look and they got like half a dozen five star 155 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 2: radio players just at the edge position. That's not a 156 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 2: made up stat by the way, that's reality. And I 157 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: look across the rest of the roster, and the thing 158 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: about it is, even the transfer portal has not eroded this. 159 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 2: In fact, I mean Bud put it in the article. 160 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 2: You can find this on twenty four seven sports dot com. 161 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: Right now. If you factor in the kids who have 162 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: transferred out of Alabama and you then adjust this blue 163 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 2: chip rating for transfers, they're still at eighty eight percent. 164 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 2: Let me translate that for you kids. If you take 165 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 2: the dudes that Bama signed that aren't on campus anymore 166 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: and you remove them from the roster, they still have 167 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: a Highler blue Chip ratio, then the next closest team 168 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 2: does without removing their departures in the transfer portal, and 169 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 2: so Alabama comes into this year. It's always a really 170 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: fun time of year when people doubt them nationally for me, 171 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: because I'm not foolish enough to do it. I may 172 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: not pick them to win the title, but I'm certainly 173 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: not going to doubt them. We've got a bold prediction 174 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: on the show later tonight where one of you claims 175 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: they're going to go eight and four. So that's always 176 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: fun for me, really fun for me because I know better. 177 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 2: Florida State's not on this. This is to me the 178 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 2: most interesting takeaway Florida State, even with all the work 179 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 2: they've done in the transfer portal, they're blue chip ratio 180 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: right now is at forty one percent. History says that's 181 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 2: not good enough to win a national championship. Vegas odds 182 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 2: put them right in the thick of that college football 183 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 2: playoff race. Any given day, they're either the favorite or 184 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: the co favorite or a close second to win the ACC. 185 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 2: I think right now they're the odds on favorite to 186 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 2: do it according to Caesar's And so you have to 187 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: ask yourself, can they or can't they obviously, but then 188 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: what do these metrics tell me? And I always have 189 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 2: to go back to that thing that I tell you 190 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 2: all the time, and that is, don't be married to 191 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 2: this whole cannot thing when we really just live in 192 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 2: a world maybe of haven'ts. No one has. We have 193 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 2: not seen someone break through the old blue chip ratio wall. 194 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 2: Doesn't mean they couldn't. But at the same time, as 195 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 2: much as Florida State's roster, as much as they're starting 196 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 2: twenty two, may be void of massive question marks, we 197 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 2: also understand the quality depth you have to have who 198 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 2: make it at that level. Now we're talking about winning 199 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: a championship, now talking about pushing to win ten games, 200 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: so rarefied airs what we're talking about here. You get 201 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 2: in that scenario and you understand TCU found this out. 202 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: For instance, you understand that they're twos. Whoever you're playing against, 203 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 2: there's not a big drop off. Especially we go to 204 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: national championship games all the time, we go to playoff games. 205 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 2: You look at the fronts and you look at the 206 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 2: rotational guys they bring in, and there are twos that 207 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 2: you look at and you say, what's the difference fractions? 208 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 2: That's the difference, and sometimes they roll three deep on 209 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: some of these teams like Georgia or Bama when they 210 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: get in those championship games. And they also get December 211 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: to get a lot of those guys healthy. So it's 212 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 2: a pretty incredible thing. So anyway I'm saying all that 213 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: to say is that where Florida State is, That's what 214 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: we're going to play the games for. That's what God 215 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 2: made fall for. But they're not on this list. Even 216 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 2: with the adjustment for transfer portal, they're not on the list. 217 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 2: So something would have to give there. Oregon's a powerhouse recruiter. 218 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 2: They are that the staff that's here right Mario, Chris 219 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 2: Paul's here right now. He took them to another level 220 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 2: when he was at Miami. It was so or when 221 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 2: he was at Oregon. It was so imperative. When he 222 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 2: came to Miami that they got someone and plugged him 223 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 2: in that understood how to keep that thing rolling. And 224 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 2: Dan Lanning's done that and his staff has done that. 225 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 2: And as long as they harness the resources out there, 226 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: they're not going anywhere. That's why when I hear those 227 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: rumors about maybe Oregon to the Big ten, I say, well, 228 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 2: they fit seamlessly already they are even when you count 229 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: for USC. They're the best recruiting power on the West 230 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 2: coast right now. Lincoln Riley and Company could change that, 231 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 2: but it hadn't changed yet, and Organ's not slowing down, 232 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 2: so someone's gonna have to catch them. But I listen 233 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 2: to those rumors, and I'm not one to root for 234 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 2: the Big twelve or the Pac twelve's implosion. Pac twelve 235 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 2: paid after all, But I think about what it would 236 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 2: look like if I snapped my fingers in Orgon was 237 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 2: just in the Big ten tomorrow outside of Ohio State, 238 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 2: they'd be the best recruiter there. Do you understand that? 239 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: Does everyone get that? Penn State's pretty good right now, 240 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: Michigan's pretty good right now. Oregon's a little bit better 241 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 2: than pretty good right now, and they're in the Pacific Northwest, 242 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:16,719 Speaker 2: separated from virtually every talented player in America, and they are, 243 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 2: like I said, so you can save you some time 244 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 2: in the comments, harnessing the resources at their disposal, which 245 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 2: is the name of the game. Now, we do it 246 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: at pet State, they do it at Oregon same way. 247 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 2: That's the name of the game. And they're doing that 248 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 2: and they're keeping themselves in the blue chip ratio. In fact, 249 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 2: I would probably not be surprised if they tacked ahead 250 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 2: of that seventy percent barrier before too much longer. One 251 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 2: more thing I wanted to mention to you before we 252 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: move on, Colin all the way back in Nashville, bless 253 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 2: his heart, could you just do me a favor and 254 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 2: throw up the initial list right quick of the top fifteen. 255 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 2: I know you guys probably noticed this, but if you didn't, 256 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 2: I want you to take special note of the fact 257 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: that OU and Texas are right there in the seven 258 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 2: and eight positions. They'll be in the SEC in about 259 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 2: five minutes. So I had stats and info count, and 260 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 2: it turns out if you include O you in Texas, 261 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 2: eight of these top fifteen teams here are SEC teams. 262 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: That's not a surprise, Josh. They recruit different level in 263 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 2: the SEC. I know that you don't have to tell 264 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 2: me that. I think I have to tell some of 265 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 2: the more casual minded amongst sometimes that you're not always 266 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 2: what your record says you are. It's one of the 267 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: big lies in college football. A win is not always 268 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 2: a win. A loss is not always a loss. It's 269 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 2: one of the other big lies that is told in 270 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 2: college football's pro sports mentality that bleeds over into college football. 271 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 2: So I want you to picture this fast forward. It's 272 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. Oh, you and Texas are in the SEC. 273 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 2: You draw six out of those eight teams on your schedule. 274 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 2: This is going to be a common occurrence, by the way, 275 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 2: Like someone down there any given year is playing six 276 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 2: or maybe seven of those teams. Not all of them 277 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 2: are going to be good record wise. It's mathematically impossible. 278 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 2: There aren't enough wins to go around because they all 279 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 2: play each other. Even if it's only eight times a year, 280 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 2: they all play each other. So my question to you 281 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 2: is this, if you run up on Texas A and M, 282 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 2: but they're tracking for a seven and five season, does 283 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 2: it really make the players any less athletically gifted when 284 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 2: you play them on a Saturday. Does it make your 285 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 2: training room any less full on that Sunday morning following 286 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 2: that game? Did it make the collisions any less violent 287 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 2: and brutal? The answer is no, But some people would 288 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: lead you to believe that because that team is tracking 289 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 2: for seven and five, it's the exact same as if 290 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 2: you would have faced a team in the Mac that's 291 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 2: tracking for seven and five. Why because you are what 292 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 2: your record says you are. That committee, if they're not 293 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 2: led in a more proper direction, would interpret that game 294 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: as nothing more than a win over a team that 295 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 2: you should have skulled drug you should have body bagged them. 296 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 2: Why of because they're only seven and five. They're tracking 297 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 2: for seven and five. But the difference is they got 298 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 2: two corners that are going to go Day one of 299 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: the draft. The likewise have four guys in the two 300 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 2: D on defense, especially on the front where this matters 301 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 2: the most, that would fit that same description. That left 302 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 2: tackle and that right guard are going to be Day 303 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 2: two selections. And all the while, I'm watching it because 304 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 2: I go to some of these games and I see 305 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 2: some of these teams that are tracking for a pretty 306 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 2: average year record wise, and I say, first off, I 307 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 2: cannot believe that that group of athletes is not going 308 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 2: to accomplish more. But on any given Saturday, it also 309 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 2: doesn't matter because those rosters that are shocked full of 310 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 2: those future Sunday guys, those are still future Sunday guys, 311 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 2: even if the team they're on is not putting up 312 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: a more impressive number in the win column. So when 313 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 2: you hear me talk about the SEC go into nine 314 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: games versus staying at eight games in conference play, I 315 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 2: want them to go to nine. And I looked at 316 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 2: this and it just reinforced my belief. 317 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 3: Man. 318 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 2: I'd love to see more of those teams play each other. 319 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 2: My hang up is not whether you can make a 320 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 2: Bowl game. 321 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 4: Don't care. 322 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: My hang up is not whether ESPN pays you auld 323 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 2: dime more money, because I don't care because it doesn't 324 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 2: go in my pocket. But I do care that that 325 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 2: committee four teams or twelve teams properly understands how to 326 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 2: interpret strength of schedule, because if we get into a 327 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 2: world in the future where Oregon State is eleven and 328 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 2: one and LSU sitting nine and three with three point 329 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 2: losses to Bama and Texas, and I got a committee 330 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 2: member saying, well, what do you expect us to do 331 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 2: compare a nine and three team to an eleven and 332 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 2: one team, I will toss the laptop in a lake 333 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 2: somewhere because I can't stand that. And that's a lot 334 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,479 Speaker 2: of the talk that happens in this sport in December sometimes. 335 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 2: So the blue chip ratio, if you want to look 336 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 2: at it again. It's on twenty four seven Sports dot Com. 337 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 2: Always really interesting, that FSU conundrum that some of you 338 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 2: are going to find yourselves in. Maybe me, maybe I'll 339 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: pick them to win the ACC who knows. But if 340 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 2: you're picking them to do more than that, you're picking 341 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: the Noles to go playoff, maybe national championship. It's not 342 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 2: that it's impossible, it's just that they're going to have 343 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 2: to do something that no other team's ever done. When 344 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 2: I was a youth in West Central Georgia, I remember 345 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 2: this because my birthday's in December, but I also remember 346 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 2: December because Christmas was in December, but not necessarily the 347 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 2: Christmas you're thinking about. I'm all about December twenty fifth. 348 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 2: I celebrate Christmas, always have, always will. But that's when 349 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 2: official visit season started. And then January is really when 350 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 2: official visit season kicked in because you had February coming up. 351 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: That was national signing there, right, And so I mean 352 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 2: this until about ten years ago, six years ago, five 353 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 2: years ago, that was really the way it was. And 354 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, the recruiting calendar started to 355 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: shift by people who never really had to suffer the 356 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 2: ramifications of that shift, and now all of a sudden, 357 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: the recruiting calendar is sped up, and we have June 358 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: and July and buildings like the one I'm sitting in 359 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 2: right now, all of a sudden, when people would have 360 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 2: gone on vacation a decade ago, are inflating balloons, and 361 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 2: they're getting fields ready, and they're getting features ready, and 362 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 2: they're getting all sorts of different things ready because they 363 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 2: have a visitor's list coming in, the lights of which 364 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: would make you blush, not in December or January, but 365 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 2: in June or July. And recruiting right now is on fire. 366 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 2: And I still don't think that our industry has adjusted 367 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 2: enough to understand that you need to be taking June 368 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 2: and July as serious now as you used to in January. 369 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 2: We do, though I can't control what everyone else does. 370 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 2: So I wanted to talk about those dudes Clemson got 371 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 2: verbally committed. Just a little precursor, little note here. I 372 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 2: know a verbal commitment does not equal a signing on 373 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 2: the dotted line of one's name, but I also leave 374 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: an open wager available for anyone to take out there 375 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 2: before you go in the comment section and say nothing's 376 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 2: official to signing day, put money on it. You can 377 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 2: take any class that we're talking about here, And if 378 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: you don't think that ninety percent of the kids who 379 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 2: are verbally committed to a class will stick, then I 380 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 2: will match a thousand dollars to a charity of your choice. 381 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 2: No one has stepped up yet. People always love to 382 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 2: get defense mechanism mine died and say, oh, that doesn't matter. 383 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 2: Nothing ever matters. It matters a whole lot. You get 384 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 2: verbal commitments, it matters a whole lot because the numbers 385 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 2: say they stick. And there will be exceptions to the rule, 386 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 2: and those will be thrown in the comment section. But 387 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: don't worry about the exceptions. The rule is you're getting 388 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 2: verbal commitments this time of year, largely recent history says 389 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 2: they're going to stick. So anyway, Clemson has been bad 390 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 2: at receiver by their standards, they've been bad. They won 391 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 2: national championships with racehorse receivers and lately they have not 392 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 2: had that. And so Daboswiney made a move at coordinator 393 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 2: offensive coordinator, but they're also making moves at that position. 394 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 2: So since I've been down here, they've landed Sammy Brown, 395 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 2: who's a five star linebacker. But they also went and 396 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 2: got two top two hundred kids at receiver. One of 397 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 2: them is Bryant Wisco, who's like a top ten player nationally. 398 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 2: That's a five star from Texas. 399 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: PJ. 400 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 2: Moore's a four star wide receiver from Florida. Very competitive recruitments, okay, 401 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 2: and those are guys that have the characteristics at least 402 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 2: that they haven't had in that room. They've just had 403 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 2: a lot of size. And it's been like five of 404 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,959 Speaker 2: the same guy Wathington play Georgia a couple of years ago, 405 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 2: watching them warm up, and the receiver group just all 406 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 2: looked like the same guy. Really physically impressive, and if 407 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 2: you line them up a outside linebacker, I'd be ready 408 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 2: to go to war with him receiver. Though there was 409 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 2: no separation, no explicivity. You've kind of watched them, so 410 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 2: you've seen what we're talking about. They're looking to rectify that. 411 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 2: The Clemson recruiting has been on a roll lately. And 412 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 2: that was as soon as I got off plane down here, 413 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 2: turned it back on. They probably landed two kids just 414 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,239 Speaker 2: as I had been in the air. Clemson's rolling. They 415 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 2: got a good class, looking for more. No one's class 416 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 2: is complete right now. They got the eighth ranked class 417 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 2: in the twenty four seven Sports Team recruiting rankings and 418 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 2: an average player grade of ninety one point six. That 419 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 2: average player grade, my brother Steve Wilfong always loves to 420 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 2: point out as one of the key metrics. They're even 421 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 2: more so maybe than total guys taken or where you're 422 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 2: ranked in the top ten, top fifteen Southern cal back 423 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 2: in the Pete Carroll era again for the college age crowd, 424 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 2: let me tell you what used to happen. What used 425 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,239 Speaker 2: to happen is they would choose a weekend and they 426 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 2: would just take all the kids they wanted. It's not 427 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 2: been like that so much lately for USC. In fact, 428 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 2: in some cases they've had to wait for other teams 429 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 2: to take that weekend and then take what's left over. 430 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 2: Even in their own state. It's tough. It's not what 431 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 2: USC was used to. So they just had a Pete 432 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 2: Carroll kind of week is my point there, And they 433 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 2: took five commits within a twenty four hour period, and 434 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 2: everyone looked around and said, wow, is this the way 435 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 2: it's going to be here again? Earlier return say yes, 436 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 2: at least as long as Lincoln Riley's there. They got 437 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 2: eight commits, number twenty one class in the country. Ignore 438 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 2: the national rankings right now, that's going to fluctuate by 439 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 2: the hour. But they were all offensive line or defense, 440 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 2: so it wasn't just a lot of running backs wide receivers. 441 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 2: They've got quarterback taken care for like the next half millennium. 442 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 2: But they took a kid out of Atlanta Fountain six 443 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 2: five two forty's an edge. I know because I had 444 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,479 Speaker 2: some coaches text me when he went to USC that 445 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 2: was a guy that was very coveted around the Southeast 446 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 2: and elsewhere. That was a national recruitment. And like I 447 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 2: said at the beginning, not over, people won't stop recruiting 448 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 2: that kid, but to land him at least a verbal 449 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 2: from him, was a big deal. And they've got six 450 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 2: states represented so far out of those eight commits. So 451 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 2: you're used to talking about them as having just a 452 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 2: need to lock down southern California, which would be wonderful, 453 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 2: But as we've noted many times on this program, it's 454 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 2: not that easy. It's not paint by numbers like that. 455 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 2: They don't produce enough line of scrimmage talent in the 456 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 2: state of California right now, and so you could be 457 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 2: fifteen deep at each position in the wide receiver room. 458 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 2: If you don't have time to throw, it really doesn't matter, guys. 459 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 2: So they've kind of taken the national approach as needed. 460 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 2: I'm in Coral Gables right now. I'm at Miami, and 461 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 2: there is an energy about the official visit weekend they're 462 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 2: about to have here, the likes of which I don't 463 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 2: know that I've been around. And we're frequently in the 464 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 2: halls of Bama Georgia all the big programs, and for 465 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 2: good reason. Because I'm talking to Wilfong earlier today, I'm 466 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 2: talking to some of our national guys, and just the 467 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 2: names we know is like a Hoost's Hoots of elite 468 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 2: recruiting profiles. In the top two, four seven. Right now, 469 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 2: you got four of the top ten players in the 470 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 2: country that we know of be on campus this weekend. 471 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,719 Speaker 2: You got six of the top thirty five. Those are 472 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 2: elite numbers. Those are elite official visit numbers for the 473 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 2: best of the best. So I know, and I'll address 474 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 2: it later when we talk to Mario Cristobaul in person. 475 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 2: I know there are some of you out there because 476 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 2: I read my dms that do not believe the talent 477 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 2: level that once existed on this campus could ever be 478 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 2: here again because the desire to stay home will never 479 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 2: exist to the degree that it used to. First thing 480 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 2: I will tell you, and I'll let him tell you later, 481 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,959 Speaker 2: is it's not just locking down South Florida. Not all 482 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 2: these dudes who are visiting this weekend, not all the 483 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 2: elite dudes who will be on their commit list come December, 484 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 2: are from South Florida. Kind Of like we talked about 485 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 2: with USC. You want to lock down home state, but 486 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 2: you have to regionally and nationally go about things as 487 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 2: need be. And the second thing I would say is 488 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 2: this is an open ended question for anyone. Define what 489 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 2: it takes to win in college football, whatever that is 490 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 2: for you, and then tell me why they can't do 491 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 2: that here or tell me what they lack here. And 492 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: I'm talking about not in terms of currently existing, but 493 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 2: in terms of potential. What does it take to have 494 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 2: that they don't have the ability to have here? They 495 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 2: obviously once had it. So what's changed, What's evolved about 496 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 2: the sport? What erode it away from this place? My 497 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 2: answer is nothing. I've already told you that. So my 498 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 2: challenge to you is to prove me wrong. There watch 499 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 2: the ticker this weekend will be on Sunday Night. I 500 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 2: would probably expect that we will talk about this again 501 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 2: on the Sunday Night Show. How about Wisconsin. Who in 502 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 2: the world goes from Coral Gables to Madison? 503 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: What we do? 504 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 2: Because Luke fickles in town and all of a sudden, 505 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 2: I've had more people mentioned Wisconsin recruiting to me like 506 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 2: those two words back to back in the past month 507 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 2: than I have my entire life combine. And for good reason. 508 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 2: They've got a big weekend coming up themselves, but also 509 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 2: they just landed for over the past week and are 510 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 2: trending for several more. It's not going to be a 511 00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 2: who's who of landing kiss from Florida, Georgia, Texas. They're 512 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 2: not going to go in there and beat Texas, Alabama, Georgia, 513 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 2: et cetera for those players. But what they are doing 514 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 2: is they're taking some of the best of the best 515 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 2: from the Midwest, and then they're also going to sprinkle 516 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 2: pieces from the state of Florida and elsewhere. So it's 517 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 2: really interesting because when that staff came in there, you know, 518 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,959 Speaker 2: Luke Fickle developed pound for pound about as well as 519 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 2: anyone in America had. When they were at Cincinnati. You 520 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 2: watched that team go to the playoff. Then you watch 521 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 2: how many guys they sent to the NFL, and I 522 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 2: guarantee you those names that went in the first and 523 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 2: second round of the draft were not names by and 524 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 2: large that we were talking about three and four years 525 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 2: prior on signing day. So he did a heck of 526 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 2: a job developing and I don't doubt they will do 527 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 2: that there as well, because a lot of the same 528 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 2: guys that were with him in Cincinnati are with him 529 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 2: now in Madison. But also, let's just be real about it, 530 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 2: they probably have the ability to recruit a different caliber 531 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 2: athlete as well, and that's happening right now, and verbals 532 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 2: are happening right now. Number fifteen class got twelve commits. 533 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 2: Like I said, big weekend coming up. It's just assumed 534 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 2: Wisconsin will never do anything. It's just assume they have 535 00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 2: to t see you their way to a big year. 536 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 2: And it's probably assumed TCU's better position in Wisconsin. I 537 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 2: assume that all things equal, I would assume a program 538 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 2: like TCU not a perennial powerhouse by any stretch, not 539 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 2: an assigning day main stay. They're probably better positioned geographically, 540 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 2: if nothing else. Then Wisconsin Luke Fickle apparently begs to 541 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 2: different and so watch them as well because they're a 542 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 2: team in the Big ten not named Ohio State, in 543 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 2: Michigan or Penn State that's starting to make a move. 544 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 2: Florida has had big visitors in I got an eye 545 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 2: on them, got an on Auburn and Georgia this weekend. 546 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 2: A lot of the SEC schools just have big visitors 547 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 2: lists rolling through every weekend. This is not an exhaustive list, 548 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 2: but this is certainly a list of teams that I'm watching. 549 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 2: I mean the goings on specifically at Clemson and now 550 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 2: Miami this weekend. It's stuff I watch because I have 551 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 2: told you that the PAC twelve is not the most 552 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 2: underachieving conference in America, nor is the Big twelve because 553 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 2: they got a little more baked in excuse. The ACC 554 00:25:55,680 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 2: has been the most disappointing underachieving conference in America because, 555 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 2: unlike the other two, you don't have the excuse of 556 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 2: being talent starved over here. A Clemson's taken care of 557 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 2: business over the past decade. Nobody in Virginia has kept 558 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 2: their into the bargain Miami, Florida State. They have not 559 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 2: kept their into the bargain, and the potential is there, 560 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 2: so I'm constantly glued to it. If we're being real 561 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,479 Speaker 2: with ourselves, they're programs in the Big Twelve that have 562 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 2: no hope like that. They're programs in the Pactrol that 563 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 2: have no hope like that. You've got half a dozen 564 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 2: of them in this conference that haven't followed through on potential, 565 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 2: that have the hope, and any given signing day it 566 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 2: could change. Academy Sports and Outdoors. Not hope results, they 567 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 2: deliver results for us. They in part allow us to 568 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 2: go on the road and do things like this, but 569 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 2: also a nice shiny studio we have back in Nashville. 570 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 2: Producer Jesse, director Colin Bradley's probably wandering around there somewhere. 571 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 2: We get to have those nice things because of Academy 572 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 2: Sports and Outdoors. But it's not just it's not a 573 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 2: guy named Academy, it's an entire company named Academy. They 574 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 2: have things you need a lot of you right now, 575 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 2: maybe like us back in Nashville, or trending towards I 576 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 2: don't know, a slow pitch softball playoff run can't do 577 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 2: it without equipment. A lot of you are in Spring 578 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 2: seven on seven football right now. I know how important 579 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 2: those cones are. I know how important that fourth and 580 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 2: fifth wristband is. I know how important it is. They've 581 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 2: got it at Academy Sports and Outdoors. And also they've 582 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 2: got our back. Like we're not a NASCAR. We don't 583 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 2: have thirty seven stickers on this show. We've had one 584 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 2: big sticker on this show, and it's because they've come through, 585 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 2: not in part, but in whole. And if you can't 586 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 2: get to one in person, and they're opening up new 587 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 2: ones every day, it seems like Academy dot Com has 588 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 2: your hookup Military first responders. You show up between now 589 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 2: and July fourth, and you present that ID, an additional 590 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 2: discount for you and free in store pickup for online 591 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 2: deliveries at Academy dot Com I think within two hours. 592 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 2: So that's really really rapid. So we appreciate them as always. 593 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 2: So that time again, got a Mario Christopaul feature coming 594 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 2: up that you will not want to miss. You won't 595 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 2: want to miss this either, Colin. Here's your endpoint. The 596 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 2: bold predictions are getting not too bold for my taste, 597 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 2: but they're getting really close to the cliff because some 598 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 2: of you, I think, are skating on thin ice with 599 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 2: hot blades and you know that you don't actually have 600 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 2: to bet money on this, but you claim you would 601 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 2: bet money on these predictions. Okay, So like I'm going 602 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 2: to pay per pop the first one, like this one's 603 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 2: that far out there. First bold prediction Bama wins eight 604 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 2: games or fewer this year. That's for my buddy, Big 605 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 2: Game Boomer. I would challenge Big Game Boomer to make 606 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 2: one of his top one hundred lists of boldest predictions. 607 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 2: It's going to be tough. I don't think that Excel 608 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 2: format he uses is going to fit all the verbige 609 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 2: in there. Brother, this is a nine point twenty five 610 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 2: on the boldness scale. Every year since two thousand and seven, 611 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 2: that dude right there, Nick Saban, even in his down years, 612 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 2: has won double digits at least, So this would be 613 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 2: this would be one of those have notts. It's not 614 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 2: quite cannot it could happen. They're over underwent total is ten. 615 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 2: It's not the craziest statistical suggestion in the world to 616 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 2: say maybe just maybe just eight wins this year, but 617 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 2: yet it is Alabama. So It is kind of crazy 618 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 2: to picture. I don't think folks understand I'm talking about 619 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 2: our college age kids and what they remember and don't remember. 620 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 2: It also should dawn on you that if you're in Tuscumbia, Alabama, 621 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 2: home for the summer, and you're in college, even if 622 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 2: you're at Auburn, I don't care. You don't know them 623 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,479 Speaker 2: as struggling. You don't know who Mike Shula is. You 624 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: don't know what the thirteen seconds of the Mike Price 625 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 2: era was in Tuscaloosa. You have no concept of this. 626 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 2: You only know them as a winner, so too do 627 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 2: a lot of their fans. Do you want to see 628 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 2: like a stage five freak out? Just like tossing burning 629 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 2: couches over cliffs like Mount Cheehaw, I think is one 630 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 2: of the highest points in Alabama. You want to see 631 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 2: like a rumble on Mount Cheehaw. This team wins eight games, 632 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 2: shut it down at Kivy, shut it down. They're not 633 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 2: ready for it. They're ill prepared. It's like looking at 634 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 2: California in the seventies when it comes to earthquakes. They're 635 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 2: ill prepared to go nine and three, much less eight 636 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,479 Speaker 2: and four. So you know, prayers up emoji that this 637 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 2: doesn't happen for my friends in Alabama. I guess if 638 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 2: it were to happen, quarterback play doesn't develop. I suppose 639 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 2: that the run game's not physical enough. Defensive back is 640 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 2: still as leaky as it was at times last year. 641 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 2: We're looking at footage of the LSU game. Still no help, 642 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 2: Still no help. Okay, finally help and he scores. 643 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: Anyway. 644 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, that stuff happened a lot against them last year. 645 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 2: Jalen Hyatt had a was it a quarter mile or 646 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 2: half mile receiving He had a really big day in 647 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 2: Knoxville against Alabama. Maybe that stuff happens again. It's a 648 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 2: hard time for me to envision eight and four, That's 649 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 2: all I'm saying. So love big game Boomer like love 650 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 2: the center, hate the sin, love the predictor, don't like 651 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 2: the prediction as much. That's a nine and a quarter. 652 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 2: What about Baylor. Let's go out to the Big twelve 653 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 2: on the card sports Baylor plays in the Big twelve 654 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 2: championship game, don't have to win it. I respect these 655 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 2: kind of predictions because you ride the fence a little 656 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 2: bit more. And I respect that because I do it 657 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 2: all the time. Baylor playing in the Big Twelve Championship. 658 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 2: On one hand, you may look at it and say, well, 659 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 2: they've got the six best odds in the conference this year. 660 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 2: But then the folks who have watched this conference over 661 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 2: the past two years would probably come back and say, yeah, 662 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 2: Kansas State and TCU were sixth and seventh in the 663 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 2: odds last year. The year before Baylor Oklahoma State sixth 664 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 2: and seventh in the odds. So, I mean, if you 665 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 2: believe in that sort of like black magic, probably better 666 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 2: to be situated in the middle of the pack than 667 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 2: it is at the top. And if that's the case, 668 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 2: prayers up for Texas because there they are parked at 669 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 2: the top yet again. And there comes that money yet again. 670 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 2: And I got the model in my hand right here. 671 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 2: The model loves Texas yet again. I'm gonna get in 672 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 2: trouble yet again. I can't get in trouble, but I'm 673 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 2: going to because I'm kind of starting to feel him 674 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 2: as well. Baylor is replacing a multitude of offensive lineman. 675 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 2: I think four starting offensive linemen. Do have a returning quarterback, 676 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 2: but returning production not such a favorable stat for the Bears. 677 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 2: Their ninetieth in the country. They play Texas and Kansas 678 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 2: State back to back, and it's a tough part of 679 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 2: their schedule. They do dodge Oklahoma. Dave Randa wouldn't call 680 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 2: it dodging, but I don't have to speak like he does, 681 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 2: so it's dodging. They do dodge them. 682 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: I think they. 683 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 2: Play, relatively speaking, one of the softer Big Twelve schedules. 684 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 2: And I need to remind you of this as well. 685 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 2: Sometimes you condition your mind to think, oh, you lose 686 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 2: two conference games, that's it. Not in this conference to 687 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 2: play for the conference title game. Not necessarily. You've had 688 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 2: that in the conference title game several years out there, 689 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 2: So two losses it doesn't automatically mean slam the doors. 690 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 2: What about the college football playoff in general? This one, 691 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 2: to me is not quite as bold. Like I was 692 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 2: looking at producer Jesse's grades that he put on it. 693 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 2: He and I actually agreed on this one. From Columbus, Ohio, 694 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 2: Ace said, college footballlayoff teams are coming from four different 695 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 2: conferences this year. The last three seasons we've had OVERLA, 696 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 2: so this has not happened the last three seasons. In 697 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,959 Speaker 2: twenty twenty, Y had Notre Dame and Clemson. That was 698 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 2: the once upon a time when Notre Dame decided to 699 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 2: join the ACC for a minute twenty twenty one Georgia 700 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 2: Bama twenty twenty two, Michigan, Ohio State. But five of 701 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 2: the last nine years it has happened, you have had 702 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 2: four conferences represented. And since this is the last year 703 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 2: of the four team field, I hear a lot of 704 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 2: applause out there. You see, I'm not clapping. You probably 705 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 2: need the Pac twelve to come through. Maybe a Notre 706 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 2: Dame comes through. You probably need the Big twelve to 707 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 2: come through. If they can do that, you're gonna get 708 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 2: at least one from the SEC. You're gonna get at 709 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 2: least one from the Big ten. How do you prevent 710 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 2: multiples coming in? Spoiler alert you never will again. So 711 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 2: if you guys wanted to keep them out, this was 712 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 2: the best bet of a format. But I digress. You 713 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 2: guys must just love that incestuous playoff model that much. 714 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 2: I'm all for it. Be my guest. This is a 715 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 2: seven and a half on the boldness scale for me, 716 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 2: though not so bold. It's happened several times, and I 717 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 2: think there's just enough good quarterback play out there in 718 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 2: the Pac twelve maybe to make that happen. I think 719 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 2: there could be just enough in that Longhorn logo this 720 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 2: year to make that happen. These are not official predictions. Lastly, 721 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 2: and I was unaware of this stat. But lastly, Chris 722 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 2: from Akworth, Georgia hit us up and said the University 723 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 2: of Florida's current streak a four hundred and twenty three 724 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 2: consecutive games with a score, will end this year. So 725 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 2: Chris is just flat out saying gooseg at some point 726 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,399 Speaker 2: is going to be put up by Florida. Nineteen eighty 727 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 2: eight is the last time the Gators got shut out 728 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 2: sixteen to nothing against Auburn. Who could forget that game. 729 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 2: Graham Mertz is the quarterback there. Okay, So producer Jesse 730 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 2: does some digging today and he comes up with this stat. 731 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 2: Close years in Gainesville, Graham Mertz was held under twenty 732 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 2: points nine times in his two year stint as a 733 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 2: starter at Wisconsin. Not the best of news. He was 734 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 2: never shut out, though, so there's some good news. They 735 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 2: have the lowest odds in the SEC East. Bad news 736 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 2: they face five of the top twenty defenses in the 737 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 2: preseason S and P plus also bad news. However, there 738 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 2: is no skill in predicting shutouts. So I'm gonna call 739 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,479 Speaker 2: this a nine just on principle. And it, even being 740 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 2: that low shows a little trepidation. You can kind of 741 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 2: hear it in my Voice'll get a little softer when 742 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 2: I talk about Florida. There are some things I want, Like, 743 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 2: there's some brands that I would love financially and selfishly. 744 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,399 Speaker 2: It would be good for us if they were. We'll 745 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 2: see that Graham Mertz being held under twenty nine times. 746 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 2: It's not Sean Clifford. Guys, he hadn't started four or 747 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 2: five or six years. He's started two years up there. 748 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,760 Speaker 2: So no, boy, no there. That is your bold prediction 749 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 2: segment for this evening. Here, I got to tell you something. 750 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 2: There's a lot of equipment around me right now. You 751 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,240 Speaker 2: can't really see it. There are a lot of people 752 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 2: and there are a lot of equipment pieces around me. 753 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 2: Fancy lights takes a lot to light the forehead without 754 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 2: overly glossing the forehead. And we've got a lot of 755 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 2: equipment here. And to produce that equipment, you have to 756 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 2: have means of transportation. And our friends in South Florida 757 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 2: at Good Greek Moving came through for us. We had 758 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 2: one of our our really really close personal friends and 759 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 2: sales get in touch with them and they came through, 760 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 2: said what do you need, and we set a really 761 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 2: big truck and they delivered literally as you see on 762 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 2: the screen right now. And if you're listening on podcasts, 763 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 2: just imagine a kiss concert going on the road, and 764 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,879 Speaker 2: that's basically what it looks like. And our friends came 765 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 2: through with shiny colors. I tell you that because I 766 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 2: would strongly encourage you guys give them a look. I mean, 767 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 2: they are they are a one stop shop for pretty 768 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 2: much all relocation needs. Now you may just need to 769 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 2: move a couch. We needed to move like a small 770 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,280 Speaker 2: small army's worth of equipment. But they take out the middleman. Okay, 771 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 2: they provide relocation systems. They've got your insurance taken care of, 772 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 2: so you take away a lot of the worry. It's 773 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 2: always good to take away at middleman. And good Greek 774 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 2: Moving has been there for us. I can tell tell 775 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 2: you every step of the way throughout this entire trip, 776 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 2: and it's one of those definite checkbox will use again. 777 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 2: But also trust is the factor there. All of us 778 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 2: have moved, I know you guys have I know I have. 779 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 2: And the trust factor. And as you listen to people 780 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,240 Speaker 2: in South Florida talk because they are the official moving 781 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 2: provider of the Miami Hurricanes, among several of the other 782 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 2: teams down here, it's the trust factor. You only get 783 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 2: to let someone down once as a moving company. Good Greek, 784 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 2: I will put my stamp on this. Look at that 785 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 2: truck on the bottom of the screen. They will not 786 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 2: let you down. With a graphical truck like that, How 787 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 2: could you possibly be let down? And so we appreciate 788 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,439 Speaker 2: those guys because it would have been very, very tough, 789 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 2: or would have taken multiple trips should I say, to 790 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 2: get this equipment down here without them. So we came 791 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 2: down here for a reason. Always good to be on 792 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,760 Speaker 2: the road. If you're not going to have an off season, 793 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 2: Why in the world would you stick around in Nashville 794 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 2: in the middle of bachelorette seasons. Just a losing proposition. 795 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 2: Even those soundproof windows cannot prevent all of that from 796 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 2: coming through. So we get on the road and we 797 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 2: head down to Miami, and our buddy Cam just behind 798 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 2: the camera right here, he welcomes us in Mario Cristobaul 799 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 2: and company welcome us in probably better than we would 800 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 2: have been treated in our home office anyway. And that's 801 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 2: not necessarily a knock on all the folks in Nashville, 802 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 2: just maybe a couple, and you know, they're in a 803 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 2: house that's so nice tonight that it doesn't matter that 804 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,439 Speaker 2: it's a shot at them. But we came down here 805 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 2: to talk with Mario Cristobal because there was a lot 806 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 2: that went wrong last year that they don't shy away from. 807 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 2: There were a lot of people and lead that aren't 808 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 2: here anymore that we're here last year that they don't 809 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 2: shy away from talking about. And so instead of me 810 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,280 Speaker 2: just running my mouth and talking about it, I wanted 811 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 2: to have him on the show, and I wanted to 812 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 2: do it face to face instead of the old FaceTime 813 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:48,240 Speaker 2: skype zoom thing. And we did it. We recorded this yesterday. 814 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 2: We're about to play it for you now. And this 815 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 2: is a very very extended conversation that goes in depth 816 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,760 Speaker 2: on a lot of different fronts, and it's so vented 817 00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 2: South Florida. You'll hear a lightning delay and go off. 818 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 2: You'll hear thunder in the background, You'll hear rain on 819 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 2: top of the facility, and all the while you'll hear 820 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 2: a head coach under a lot of pressure this year, 821 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 2: embracing the pressure. This is our one on one when 822 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 2: Mario Christaball take a look. Pate State Speaker Series is 823 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 2: in Coral Gables, Florida. Josh paid alongside Miami head man 824 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 2: Mario Cristball kind enough to open up the entire facility. 825 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,720 Speaker 2: We felt more at home here than we feel in Nashville, 826 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 2: So first off, appreciate it. Secondly, it's June. Some of 827 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 2: the more casual minded out there would call this the 828 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 2: off season. We don't really use that word because there's 829 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 2: a ton of buzz in the building right now. I mean, 830 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 2: just describe for folks who really don't get to see 831 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 2: behind the scenes. First off, what the energy is like. 832 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 2: You're entering the heart of recruiting season. You got summer 833 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 2: workouts happening that are player led, you got a lot 834 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 2: of street and the conditioning stuff happening. 835 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,040 Speaker 4: Like, what is the vibe when you walk into the 836 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 4: office right now? 837 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 1: Well, it's strong. 838 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 3: It's a lot of real momentum, genuine momentum because you know, 839 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 3: we just signed the best class in our history and 840 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 3: we returned the core of really strong minded, tough, high 841 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 3: character guys that get it. 842 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: You know, and I think. 843 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 3: We all know the month of June has become a 844 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 3: beast in college football. 845 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 1: Right there is no rest. 846 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 3: I mean, you're going seven days a week, and at 847 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 3: least that's what it amounts to you over here, I'm 848 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 3: sure for most places. So, like you mentioned, you have 849 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 3: player of workouts going on, you've got your prospect camps, 850 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 3: you've got your youth league camps. It just doesn't stop. 851 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 3: So there's there's a lot of different kinds of energy 852 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 3: going on. But it's all it's all about, like the 853 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,479 Speaker 3: hard work part. It's all about community, give back, work, 854 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 3: academic obligations. It's a lot of work. But also there's 855 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 3: a feeling of man, let's let's go. Let's keep pushing 856 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 3: this thing because right now we feel like we have 857 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 3: a really good group of guys in the building that 858 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 3: that get it. 859 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 2: Now, what's funny is like public doesn't get to see this, 860 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 2: but I stood right up on a railing just off 861 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 2: camera here and I watched you shake like a thousand 862 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 2: kids hands yesterday, no bathroom break, so you soldier through it. 863 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 2: I mean it's nice though, when you get to open 864 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 2: these doors off when you get a lot of the 865 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 2: youth camps and youth our participation from down here. 866 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,360 Speaker 4: But you just talked about that signing class. 867 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 2: I don't want to gloss over that, like we ranked 868 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,280 Speaker 2: them number seven in the country at twenty four seven sports. 869 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,240 Speaker 2: But sometimes from the outside, yeah, I see the stars, 870 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 2: I see the rankings, but those are numbers to me. 871 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,879 Speaker 4: I didn't scout the players. I didn't recruit them. You did. 872 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 2: You had them in the building, and it was really 873 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,800 Speaker 2: the first full cycle that you guys got. What struck 874 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 2: me first and foremost when we got here a couple 875 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 2: of days ago is how much energy there is in 876 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,879 Speaker 2: the building, specifically about the true freshman class, which goes 877 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,280 Speaker 2: a long way to me in validating that, at least 878 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 2: from the so far point of view, you guys feel 879 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,320 Speaker 2: like you really hit on that class. 880 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 4: So I mean, walk me through it. 881 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,799 Speaker 2: You got a couple of freshman tackles I see out 882 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 2: here who look like space aliens, and they I don't 883 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:57,439 Speaker 2: even know if they're legal adults yet. 884 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 4: So what did you just. 885 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 3: Sign I mean it was it was at the forefront 886 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 3: of task at hand. Now, you know, when you when 887 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 3: you take on a job, and especially it's I guess 888 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 3: nothing is too late in the cycle, but when you 889 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 3: take it on at that point in time, you've got 890 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,840 Speaker 3: to assess where the program is right. And in college football, 891 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,799 Speaker 3: you're either arriving at a new place because a place 892 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,359 Speaker 3: at flourished and moved on, or because it needs work, 893 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 3: it needs repair, and certainly Miami was a place that 894 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 3: needed repair. 895 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 1: You know, for for decades. 896 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 3: Miami had dominated the NFL Draft, and in essence, when 897 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 3: you dominate the NFL Draft, you have dominated national signing days. 898 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 3: So analyzing it right away as a staff, we felt 899 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,280 Speaker 3: that we had to put in a lot of work 900 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,399 Speaker 3: to make sure that the culture that was brought in 901 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,320 Speaker 3: matched up the types of players that were recruiting and 902 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 3: the types of players that are in the building. 903 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 1: So it's almost a three pronged attack on this stuff. 904 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 3: And so we went right at it, and the line 905 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 3: of scrimmage was out of premium and you saw, you know, 906 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 3: the aliens you referred to, they. 907 00:42:58,800 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 1: Do have birth certificates. 908 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 3: It's such security numbers, you know, albeit you know it's 909 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 3: are They really are unique, not only because of their stature, 910 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 3: but because of their ability their capacity to handle like 911 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 3: large workloads and to push. And ironically, you know, you 912 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 3: expect the freshman class to sit back and wait for 913 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 3: a leader to arise among them or whatnot. And the 914 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 3: alphas are being alphas. They're doing a really good job pushing. 915 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,839 Speaker 3: And we've recruited them for a long time and we 916 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 3: were very real, we were very very honest. We said, look, 917 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 3: we were super excited. We're building a championship football program, 918 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,800 Speaker 3: rebuilding a championship football program. 919 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 1: And it's it. 920 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 3: Didn't happen overnight where you know, things had gotten to 921 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 3: where they were, So it's not going to be an 922 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,879 Speaker 3: overnight fix. But we need tough minded individuals that will 923 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,400 Speaker 3: not flinch, will not blink when things are going to 924 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 3: get tough, because at first, like anything else that has 925 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 3: to be rebuilt, there's some painful steps that you cannot skip. 926 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,080 Speaker 1: So we went right at it. We stuck with that 927 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 1: that has never changed. 928 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,799 Speaker 3: So they took on, you know, the I would say, 929 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 3: the honor of becoming a Miami Hurricane. 930 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,279 Speaker 1: And they have not disappointed. 931 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 3: I mean, they eat more than any group of human 932 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,720 Speaker 3: beings I've ever seen in my life. The food builds 933 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 3: through the roof right now, but their energy, the extra 934 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,920 Speaker 3: time put in. You saw a couple guys shooting out 935 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 3: the Judgs machines earlier. Today they're football junkies, and myself, 936 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 3: our staff, I want to be around people where this 937 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 3: is the thing. It is the priority, you know, And 938 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:30,919 Speaker 3: so so far, so good. 939 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 2: You're talking about installing the right mindset. You inherit what 940 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,080 Speaker 2: you inherit when you take over program? What percentage of 941 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:38,919 Speaker 2: the roster had the right mindset when you got here 942 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:40,359 Speaker 2: a year and a half, two years ago. 943 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's hard to tell. I mean, it's 944 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 3: it is a clash of cultures. 945 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 1: I can say that, Like, you know, I love the 946 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,319 Speaker 1: grind I do. I make no bones about it. I do. 947 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 3: I like putting in hours and I like being around 948 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 3: people like to put in time and effort and have 949 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:56,880 Speaker 3: intensity behind it. 950 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 1: And our culture brings a lot of that. 951 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 3: And I think we walked into a culture that was 952 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 3: you know, it wasn't that, okay, We all being honest 953 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 3: and at the same time want to be respectful of 954 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 3: anyone and anything that comes before you, because I believe 955 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:13,720 Speaker 3: that's important. 956 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 1: It's just different. 957 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 3: It's two different philosophies and it's two different cultures. So 958 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 3: that collision isn't a kind and cuddly one. You know 959 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 3: that one's going to come with some pushback, but plenty 960 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,279 Speaker 3: of cooperation. It's going to come with attrition at some 961 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 3: point in time. But the percentage that and it's hard, 962 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 3: it's hard. It wasn't large, but it wasn't zero enough. 963 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 3: It was enough to establish a core. Right, Let's just 964 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 3: say that a core that you can build off of 965 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 3: and at the same time, you know, add some legitimate, legitimate, 966 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 3: high level talent and start building it and piecing it 967 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,360 Speaker 3: together the right way, because you got to stack up 968 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 3: the pieces in a way where you're still developing and 969 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 3: you're not overstacking just talent. 970 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 2: I think a lot of folks would be just fascinated 971 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,799 Speaker 2: as much as you can go into detail of what 972 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 2: it's like when you first take a job. In your case, 973 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 2: you get to Miami, Like I said, you've got what 974 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 2: you've got. You're talking about sort of the oil and 975 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 2: water clash of we're going to do it one way, 976 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 2: maybe you're used to doing it in another way. You're 977 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 2: not throwing any predecessor under the bus, But how in 978 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 2: your face do you have to get not just with 979 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,360 Speaker 2: your roster, but with a lot of people, because you 980 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 2: talk a lot about not just fixing the downstairs where 981 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 2: we are on this field, but fixing the upstairs too. 982 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't I know you well enough to 983 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 2: know you don't shy away from confrontation when it's needed. 984 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 4: When it even may sound mild mannered right now but 985 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:33,400 Speaker 4: not all the time. 986 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,359 Speaker 2: But at the same time, you know that you've got 987 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 2: to have enough to go to war within your one 988 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 2: So how uncomfortable but necessary is that? 989 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 4: I guess I. 990 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 3: Don't think it's ever uncomfortable because you're just You're genuine 991 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 3: and you're real. And I still think the greatest form 992 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,320 Speaker 3: of respect you could give someone is to be honest 993 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 3: with them and give them the truth, whether they want 994 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 3: to hear it or not. That's the best thing you 995 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,959 Speaker 3: could do buy someone for someone. And first, the first 996 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 3: thing I want to do is walk in the building, 997 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 3: and I want to walk into the locker room when 998 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 3: no one was there, because I wanted to see the 999 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,360 Speaker 3: type of pride that was taken in one's own house. 1000 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,279 Speaker 3: Becauseact that'll tell you a lot, you know, And right there, 1001 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 3: you know, right away there's a lot of work to 1002 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:12,760 Speaker 3: be done. 1003 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 1: And with that, you know you. 1004 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,719 Speaker 3: Want to see what type of physical condition your team 1005 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,359 Speaker 3: is in, because if you're a college athlete, I mean, 1006 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 3: come on, man, as you know you're still a young guy. 1007 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 3: I'm getting a little bit older and not too old, 1008 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:25,560 Speaker 3: you know, trying to hang with you in the weight 1009 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 3: room with something else. But you know, there's pride in 1010 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 3: what you are physically as well as mentally, how you 1011 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 3: do in the classroom. There's a level of pride in 1012 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 3: your culture where if it's really a culture, if it's 1013 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:44,440 Speaker 3: really a strong and a very just a championship level culture, 1014 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,439 Speaker 3: how you do anything is how you do everything. There 1015 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 3: is no light switch that Okay, I'm going to turn 1016 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,880 Speaker 3: it out when I'm practicing. I'm going to shut it 1017 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,960 Speaker 3: down when I got to go to class, or when 1018 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 3: I have to make an appointment, or when I have 1019 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 3: to be courteous and be respectful to someone. So the 1020 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,359 Speaker 3: attack was when I was say the assessment, and then 1021 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:05,319 Speaker 3: the directors were all geared towards culture. Knowing that talent 1022 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 3: acquisition was going to take a whole year. You're just 1023 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 3: you're not going to be able to change things by much. 1024 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,920 Speaker 3: So that's where we poured ourselves into and I'm probably 1025 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 3: going off on a couple of different tangents. 1026 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 1: But that's what it's like. 1027 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,319 Speaker 3: You have to you have to say goodbye. That's number one, 1028 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 3: and that's tough. You have to say goodbye to people 1029 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,399 Speaker 3: that were really good to you a situation and I'll 1030 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,759 Speaker 3: always be extremely grateful for I mean, and we take 1031 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,319 Speaker 3: a lot of pride in it. When we walked in 1032 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:34,239 Speaker 3: the University of Oregon with with coach Willie Taggart, you know, 1033 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 3: Oregon was coming off of four and eight season and 1034 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 3: talent acquisition was struggling. And a few years later, where 1035 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:43,759 Speaker 3: you know, you're playing for a Rose Bull and you 1036 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,680 Speaker 3: win a conference and you go to a successive conference game. 1037 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 1: So that's hard to leave. It's hard to leave. 1038 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,919 Speaker 3: But there was always one and this was that one 1039 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,799 Speaker 3: and and part of it. And I would say, I'll 1040 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 3: say a part that wasn't part of it, the part 1041 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 3: that wasn't part of it. It was that I'm from here, 1042 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,320 Speaker 3: the part that is really strongly ingrained and why and 1043 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:07,600 Speaker 3: the reasons why I came back. 1044 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,480 Speaker 1: So I played here, I wore the U. 1045 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,240 Speaker 3: I've got eleven plus you know, zippers on my body 1046 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 3: due to surgeries. Having played at the University of Miami. 1047 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:23,760 Speaker 3: The community completely embraced us, and we turned the entire 1048 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 3: mindset of the city, the community of South Florida, then nationally, 1049 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,479 Speaker 3: and so it was a game changer in my life. 1050 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 3: And so my full belief is that Miami done the 1051 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,719 Speaker 3: right way is the best place in the planet. So 1052 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,400 Speaker 3: that's why we're back and back after having the experience 1053 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,280 Speaker 3: at Oregon, having the experience at Alabama, at Rutgers, at FIU, 1054 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:41,359 Speaker 3: all those places. 1055 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,360 Speaker 1: So when you come in, you want to bring in people. 1056 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,880 Speaker 3: A lot of your staff members all of a sudden 1057 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:52,240 Speaker 3: got a head job or got coordinator opportunities. Even ja's 1058 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,320 Speaker 3: and analysts became position coaches. So you've taken four or 1059 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,239 Speaker 3: five years to assemble a really strong team, and all 1060 00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,399 Speaker 3: of a sudden it's gone. But then you've got four 1061 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,160 Speaker 3: days before the first signing day, but you have no 1062 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,160 Speaker 3: staff members in the house, and you've got to say 1063 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,440 Speaker 3: hello to your new team, and you've got to figure 1064 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,279 Speaker 3: out what's got to stay, what's got to go, and 1065 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 3: you've got to figure. 1066 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:14,840 Speaker 1: Out curtain staff curtain staff members. 1067 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,160 Speaker 3: There's there's no handbook, and no one should feel bad 1068 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:20,279 Speaker 3: for anybody having to do that. 1069 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,120 Speaker 1: Right, you know, we're compensated. 1070 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:22,920 Speaker 4: For doing Yeah, they don't feel better. 1071 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 1: And they shouldn't. 1072 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,920 Speaker 3: It's just that your multitasking skills are going to be 1073 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,239 Speaker 3: put to the test, and you better buckle up and 1074 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,359 Speaker 3: you better be ready for you know, the right kind 1075 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,040 Speaker 3: of Cuban coffee to keep you going twenty. 1076 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 4: Four seve And I've experienced that down here and will 1077 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:37,520 Speaker 4: before we leave here. 1078 00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,760 Speaker 2: So you're talking about what Miami was, you're talking about 1079 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 2: what not might be, but just what you think Miami 1080 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 2: will be again? Yes, sir, and flat out, there are 1081 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,480 Speaker 2: a lot of folks out there who don't believe that's 1082 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,319 Speaker 2: possible anymore. There are a lot of folks who just 1083 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:55,640 Speaker 2: believe by however they define it. College football has evolved, 1084 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 2: and so some of the programs that once were can't 1085 00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:02,120 Speaker 2: be again necessarily fall in that category. But I'm telling 1086 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,799 Speaker 2: you it's a very popular talking point out there. I know, 1087 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,799 Speaker 2: to a certain extent in your line of work, you 1088 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:07,919 Speaker 2: just have to block that out. 1089 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:10,839 Speaker 4: But do you just let a little bit of it 1090 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:11,720 Speaker 4: be an IV drip? 1091 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 1: Do you just let maybe. 1092 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 2: Two percent of that in to understand that there are 1093 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,600 Speaker 2: folks out here who totally think I'm full of it, 1094 00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,400 Speaker 2: Like they totally think this is byes. There's no way 1095 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:20,920 Speaker 2: we're going to be able to do this, because when 1096 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,000 Speaker 2: I walked in here yesterday, I mean. 1097 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,600 Speaker 4: You said, hey, you said how you do and you said, 1098 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,240 Speaker 4: you know, this is it. I'm not going anywhere. 1099 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 1: This is it. 1100 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,000 Speaker 4: It either works here it doesn't work. 1101 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,359 Speaker 2: Like what's it like to maybe turn on the radio 1102 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,239 Speaker 2: or maybe maybe refresh Twitter every now and then just 1103 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,400 Speaker 2: see folks in some cases totally doubt that this is possible. 1104 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,400 Speaker 1: That's like foreign languages to me. 1105 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,600 Speaker 3: I mean, you got to realize I was raised by 1106 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:46,239 Speaker 3: two parents that met here, came over from Cuba, learned 1107 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,480 Speaker 3: the language, worked two jobs at day into the night, 1108 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,600 Speaker 3: went to night school to learn the language, and made 1109 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:57,319 Speaker 3: sure we understand what the principles of working hard and 1110 00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,720 Speaker 3: taking care of your business really are. So we weren't 1111 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 3: silver spoon fed kids. We weren't coddled or given the 1112 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 3: soft and easy way. We were taught how to grind 1113 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,360 Speaker 3: and how to work. And that carried over to a 1114 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,520 Speaker 3: high school head coach was the best of the best 1115 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:14,360 Speaker 3: in Dennis level. 1116 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:15,359 Speaker 1: I mean that guy. 1117 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,959 Speaker 3: I learned more from him and still apply more from 1118 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,319 Speaker 3: what we learned from him. What we do on a 1119 00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:25,879 Speaker 3: daily basis. So for us here, I think certain programs 1120 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:31,719 Speaker 3: will always have a national brand, and the key to 1121 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 3: any program right usually falls in a three kind of 1122 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:41,279 Speaker 3: pronged approach right talent acquisition, player development, and personnel use. 1123 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,320 Speaker 3: I believe what you said, no one goes back anymore 1124 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 3: in college football, and we don't think that way. I know, way, 1125 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 3: shape or form, want to go backwards and hey, like 1126 00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,000 Speaker 3: this was done or when I played here, That's never 1127 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,400 Speaker 3: part of any conversation. The fact that I've had the 1128 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,880 Speaker 3: opportunity to be away for twenty five years different stops, 1129 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:02,120 Speaker 3: all them rebuilds. 1130 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,160 Speaker 1: One already was established. 1131 00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,080 Speaker 3: Well enough for that's not a rebuild, but sustaining a 1132 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,719 Speaker 3: program at that level still is a great lessons like 1133 00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:09,520 Speaker 3: getting a PhD. 1134 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:10,440 Speaker 1: In some of this stuff. 1135 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,240 Speaker 3: It's really important to know that this is all about 1136 00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,880 Speaker 3: taking Miami into the future. That's why the contract was 1137 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,160 Speaker 3: laid out the way it was. That's why into that 1138 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,960 Speaker 3: we tied a facility that's going to be second to none, 1139 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:25,560 Speaker 3: which has been. 1140 00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:26,399 Speaker 1: Missing for a long time. 1141 00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,120 Speaker 3: I mean, this was as much as I wanted to 1142 00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,720 Speaker 3: come back, I could not from a business standpoint until 1143 00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,360 Speaker 3: it was obvious and factual that Miami was really serious 1144 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,640 Speaker 3: about heading into this decade at the level that everybody 1145 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,480 Speaker 3: else is in the country, the top level teams and 1146 00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:47,120 Speaker 3: every single budget line, every single everything is itemized to 1147 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:47,400 Speaker 3: the t. 1148 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:49,680 Speaker 1: For the long haul. 1149 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,680 Speaker 3: That that's the way it's going to be, and that's 1150 00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:53,400 Speaker 3: the only way it can be and should be. So 1151 00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,320 Speaker 3: all those things combined plus the area, you feel the 1152 00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,640 Speaker 3: vibe in the city, you feel the vibe within the building. 1153 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:01,719 Speaker 3: We don't be as each other in here. I don't 1154 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,520 Speaker 3: be as this football team or our coaches. I just 1155 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,120 Speaker 3: I'm an offensive lineman man. I mean, I was born 1156 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:09,640 Speaker 3: and raised to be a worker and do things a 1157 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,960 Speaker 3: certain way. And we don't believe in be his And 1158 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,880 Speaker 3: in terms of any noise that there might be, I 1159 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,320 Speaker 3: don't know. And I don't think our team are players. 1160 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,080 Speaker 3: The people that we bring to the building, I don't 1161 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,239 Speaker 3: think they'll ever care. Whoever does is got to go. 1162 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,000 Speaker 3: I'm talk about here anywhere else. I don't live in 1163 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:26,480 Speaker 3: that world. 1164 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:27,600 Speaker 1: I'll live in that. 1165 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,719 Speaker 3: World where you saw, well, we're up at the crack 1166 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,960 Speaker 3: of dawn beyond that and stayed till late at night. 1167 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,560 Speaker 3: That's the world that we live in. That's the only 1168 00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,799 Speaker 3: wre we're going to stay in. It's a great group 1169 00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:41,200 Speaker 3: of guys. It's a great i would say, foundation plus 1170 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,120 Speaker 3: one of what this place is to be. And when 1171 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:49,400 Speaker 3: you sign the top class in your program's history and 1172 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,760 Speaker 3: you're trending to do it again and top that one, well, now, 1173 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,359 Speaker 3: now it starts looking like the teams that have really 1174 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,239 Speaker 3: dominated college football for the past several years. 1175 00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,239 Speaker 2: The mentality you're talking about is atypical. Most people don't 1176 00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:06,160 Speaker 2: think like that. And therefore, when last season gets here 1177 00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 2: and then it starts to go downhill, the typical person 1178 00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,080 Speaker 2: looks at it and maybe a result or in it fashion, 1179 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:12,360 Speaker 2: and they say, oh, they're not going to finish with 1180 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:13,000 Speaker 2: a good record. 1181 00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:14,600 Speaker 4: This season's terrible. 1182 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:15,160 Speaker 1: It's a wash. 1183 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,760 Speaker 4: You don't get to think like that because because you've got. 1184 00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,400 Speaker 2: Hopefully decade plus down the road to where this is 1185 00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:22,000 Speaker 2: the here and now. 1186 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,120 Speaker 4: But here's where we're headed. 1187 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,279 Speaker 2: And it struck me now when you were doing some 1188 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,839 Speaker 2: radio last year, even during the season, and you were 1189 00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:30,840 Speaker 2: just totally unfiltered. I don't think i'd heard you that 1190 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,160 Speaker 2: way publicly, maybe privately, but not publicly, and you just 1191 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,400 Speaker 2: rip the band aid off and you were like brutally 1192 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,800 Speaker 2: honest about what is and what has to change, and 1193 00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:41,960 Speaker 2: make no bones about it. We're gonna get it there. 1194 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,840 Speaker 2: When did you, I guess, when did you start to 1195 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,640 Speaker 2: feel it? From a result standpoint, go a little bit 1196 00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,880 Speaker 2: south last year? And what was it like in the 1197 00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,160 Speaker 2: building around here? Because all we know is what it 1198 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:55,240 Speaker 2: looked like from the outside. 1199 00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:56,920 Speaker 3: Sure, you know, I think whenever you have a season 1200 00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,759 Speaker 3: like that, it is tough. You know, you gotta I 1201 00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:02,080 Speaker 3: like to think about it this way. For the last 1202 00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:06,280 Speaker 3: ten years, I've been part of either a national championship staff, 1203 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,840 Speaker 3: a National championship game, a Rose Bowl game, a conference title, 1204 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:12,640 Speaker 3: and then for the first time in a long time, 1205 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,640 Speaker 3: was back to rebuild mode and you had to. 1206 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,560 Speaker 1: Go through the painful steps that you cannot skip. 1207 00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:21,399 Speaker 3: And they are hard, they are tough, and a job 1208 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,839 Speaker 3: like this, at least at the beginning, is for tough 1209 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:28,759 Speaker 3: minded people. It really is, because people are gonna, you know, 1210 00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,640 Speaker 3: how to busch it. People are going to show their ass, right, 1211 00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,840 Speaker 3: I don't think I could say that kind of whatever, 1212 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,600 Speaker 3: you know, so people are going to show themselves when 1213 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:44,480 Speaker 3: the blank khit's a fan and the truth always comes 1214 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:48,279 Speaker 3: out in those situations. So I look back at every 1215 00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,719 Speaker 3: single one of these opportunities that we have, whether it 1216 00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:55,320 Speaker 3: be at Rutgers getting beat age of seven at Virginia Virginia, 1217 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:56,080 Speaker 3: you can't forget that. 1218 00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:57,160 Speaker 1: Happened ages of seven. 1219 00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,560 Speaker 3: I'll never forget the fake punt right before halftime to 1220 00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:05,080 Speaker 3: further emphasize at West Virginia, I'll never forget being here 1221 00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,360 Speaker 3: in ninety seven as a GA, you know, and rebuilding 1222 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,120 Speaker 3: the pro I'll never forget going to FIU a team 1223 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,920 Speaker 3: that had lost almost twenty stray games and having to 1224 00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,280 Speaker 3: start from scrats there on the team that was inheriting 1225 00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,880 Speaker 3: a five year probation, Like it just takes certain types 1226 00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,800 Speaker 3: of people to do that, and surrounding yourself with certain 1227 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,920 Speaker 3: types of people, and if there's any crack in them, 1228 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,880 Speaker 3: people are gonna feel it. Right, So I we just 1229 00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,320 Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe we're very fortunate. We had a 1230 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:36,440 Speaker 3: great upbringings. I credit the parents, the mentors of all 1231 00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,080 Speaker 3: the young men and women in our program that are 1232 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,120 Speaker 3: resilient and understand that this you got to do this, 1233 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,480 Speaker 3: Like unfortunately, if you're not to a certain level, you 1234 00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,840 Speaker 3: need this. So that reality is very clear that we 1235 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,160 Speaker 3: have got to build from here. Now we just got 1236 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:52,919 Speaker 3: to go just shut our mouths and go to work. 1237 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,080 Speaker 3: There's nothing else, you know, there's no other way around it. 1238 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:57,080 Speaker 1: You just got to go do it. 1239 00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,240 Speaker 2: No one ever, at least in my observation, and no 1240 00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,600 Speaker 2: one ever takes over a program and then hires a 1241 00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:06,080 Speaker 2: staff and then everyone's just there for the first three years. 1242 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,440 Speaker 2: You may have a nucleus, but it always feels like 1243 00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,600 Speaker 2: there's some turnover. You guys had turnover the coordinator position. 1244 00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:13,800 Speaker 2: You had a chunk of your staff, which is normal 1245 00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:15,960 Speaker 2: percentage wise, you look across the sport, That's how it 1246 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:16,760 Speaker 2: always happens. 1247 00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:18,760 Speaker 4: But I know each situation is unique. 1248 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,680 Speaker 2: So you're talking about filtration and sort of putting the 1249 00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:23,680 Speaker 2: water pressure against the dam and finding out where the 1250 00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:24,160 Speaker 2: cracks are. 1251 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:27,000 Speaker 4: From the outside. 1252 00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:28,960 Speaker 2: All we see is at the end of the year, 1253 00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,520 Speaker 2: staff moves on in the inside. 1254 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:32,680 Speaker 4: Sometimes you may. 1255 00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,760 Speaker 2: Know two weeks in sure, probably need to address that 1256 00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,720 Speaker 2: down the road, or maybe it's late November, probably need 1257 00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,800 Speaker 2: to address that. But you don't usually do it during 1258 00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:41,600 Speaker 2: the season. You just got to make do until the 1259 00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,880 Speaker 2: end of the year. What's that process like if no 1260 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,040 Speaker 2: one in the back of your mind, all right, taking 1261 00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,680 Speaker 2: notes now, But I can't really probably address that until 1262 00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,840 Speaker 2: December because that is obviously not an ideal situation to 1263 00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:52,160 Speaker 2: be in. 1264 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,720 Speaker 3: Sure, And I think you owe it to a staff 1265 00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,800 Speaker 3: to give them enough time to at least show something 1266 00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,320 Speaker 3: unless it's just to the point where you know it's 1267 00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,840 Speaker 3: no longer fixable or that there is no improvement to 1268 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,520 Speaker 3: be made, or you're part of the season where you 1269 00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,920 Speaker 3: could only hurt yourself even more, even if you know 1270 00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:10,000 Speaker 3: that it's not going to work. 1271 00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:14,680 Speaker 1: And I do believe this, I believe in respect. 1272 00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,560 Speaker 3: And sometimes you know a staff member is not going 1273 00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,640 Speaker 3: to work out, and sometimes they have an opportunity that 1274 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,960 Speaker 3: might be better for their family, and sometimes it's time 1275 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:28,240 Speaker 3: for them to move on, and I, at least philosophically, 1276 00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,320 Speaker 3: I believe and if that's the case, you always give 1277 00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:35,720 Speaker 3: someone an opportunity to find another opportunity and go get it. 1278 00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,160 Speaker 3: You know, I don't think there's ante I don't think 1279 00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:45,400 Speaker 3: there's any any benefit of a public termination just so 1280 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:48,720 Speaker 3: it's out there when someone can maybe find another job 1281 00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,720 Speaker 3: when a move was going to be made anyways. You know, 1282 00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:52,960 Speaker 3: you want to get people an opportunity to continue their career, 1283 00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:57,400 Speaker 3: not sometimes things don't fit, you know, we had. We 1284 00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,960 Speaker 3: had coaches that were had some pretty strong accol right 1285 01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:02,920 Speaker 3: and all of a sudden it didn't work out. 1286 01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:04,080 Speaker 1: They moved on somewhere else. 1287 01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:08,439 Speaker 3: So I don't think anyone or everyone becomes a bad 1288 01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,400 Speaker 3: coach overnight. Sometimes things just don't fit, or the timing 1289 01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,920 Speaker 3: isn't right, or the personnel doesn't fit the scheme, and 1290 01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:18,480 Speaker 3: there's not enough adaptability or enough pieces to plug in. 1291 01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:20,520 Speaker 1: Every single case is different. 1292 01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,200 Speaker 3: I do try to handle those respectfully while at the 1293 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,840 Speaker 3: same time just finding whatever is best for the team 1294 01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,560 Speaker 3: and not compromising that part. If something has to be 1295 01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,000 Speaker 3: done on the spot and swiftly because it is the 1296 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:32,280 Speaker 3: best for the team, then you gotta do what you 1297 01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:32,720 Speaker 3: gotta do. 1298 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,080 Speaker 2: What you're describing is a different world, but it's not 1299 01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,240 Speaker 2: too dissimilar sometimes to what we may deal with in 1300 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,560 Speaker 2: the production world. You may bring in a guy who 1301 01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,440 Speaker 2: you want to be a coordinating producer and he's got 1302 01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,080 Speaker 2: all the he's got all the boxes checked on his resume. 1303 01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,439 Speaker 2: It just for whatever reason, it's not a good fit. 1304 01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,720 Speaker 2: Now in my world, what you'll probably do is along 1305 01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,680 Speaker 2: the lines of what you said, Probably give them a 1306 01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:53,720 Speaker 2: heads up, not that they don't already feel it, but 1307 01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:56,520 Speaker 2: you give them a heads up. Hey, probably in your 1308 01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,280 Speaker 2: best interest to go ahead and put your feelers out. 1309 01:00:58,360 --> 01:00:59,800 Speaker 2: In your world, you would have an agent to do 1310 01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:01,640 Speaker 2: that through, whereas in our world you're just having to 1311 01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:05,160 Speaker 2: elbow your way in yourself. Is that how you handle it? 1312 01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,160 Speaker 2: I mean, if you were to start feeling things going downhill, 1313 01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,960 Speaker 2: do you sort of wink wink, nudge nudge, Hey, this 1314 01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:14,800 Speaker 2: is probably the direction we're going. Or do you not 1315 01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,120 Speaker 2: even need to do that? Do guys just naturally feel 1316 01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,880 Speaker 2: it and understand? Probably on borrow time here? 1317 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:20,240 Speaker 1: Oh? 1318 01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:23,919 Speaker 3: You telling them respectfully? You know, there's you don't hold back. 1319 01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:26,720 Speaker 3: You know, I don't think you make it personal because 1320 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:28,840 Speaker 3: it never is. It shouldn't be unless someone makes it 1321 01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:33,480 Speaker 3: personal or in the case someone egregiously you know, violates 1322 01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:36,280 Speaker 3: policy and culture and ethics, and you got to go 1323 01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,240 Speaker 3: out that really really hard. But if not, you really 1324 01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,000 Speaker 3: try to always say as professional as possible and leave. 1325 01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:41,920 Speaker 1: Out the personal part. 1326 01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:45,800 Speaker 2: So as we're talking right here, we got like alarms 1327 01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,480 Speaker 2: going off in the background, lightning in the area. And 1328 01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:50,880 Speaker 2: what's interesting is I've been to pretty recently down here 1329 01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:52,960 Speaker 2: that would have just meant all right, practice is over 1330 01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,720 Speaker 2: done now we're sitting in an indoor and yet we've 1331 01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,960 Speaker 2: also got ground about to break on new facilities that 1332 01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,200 Speaker 2: are even brighter and shine even what we're in right now. Now, 1333 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:02,680 Speaker 2: I know, if you had your way, we just put 1334 01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,040 Speaker 2: on hard hats and go pick up a shovel and 1335 01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:06,919 Speaker 2: let's get it done. Because you don't get the red 1336 01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,160 Speaker 2: tape and I don't get the red tape either. When 1337 01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,880 Speaker 2: this project's finally done. What does that do to Miami football? 1338 01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,040 Speaker 3: Well, Number one, Jimmy Johnson had to deal with somebody 1339 01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,840 Speaker 3: because it would lightening everywhere except on that practice field 1340 01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,400 Speaker 3: because we never had a single practice canceled and all 1341 01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,240 Speaker 3: that time we haven't had the same deal with that 1342 01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:27,200 Speaker 3: same benefit. So yeah, this is this is well underway. 1343 01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:31,920 Speaker 3: Groundbreaking should be any day now. It is a fully 1344 01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:35,960 Speaker 3: funded and laid out project. It is it's the nicest 1345 01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,200 Speaker 3: facility I've ever been a part of helping to design, 1346 01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,160 Speaker 3: and it gives us everything and then some. It also 1347 01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:43,760 Speaker 3: gives you ability to keep expanding the operation as well, 1348 01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:45,400 Speaker 3: and it's a necessity. 1349 01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:45,800 Speaker 1: You know. 1350 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,160 Speaker 3: I think for years prospects have just flown by and 1351 01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:51,960 Speaker 3: over Miami because it's not just having a nice building, 1352 01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:56,400 Speaker 3: it's a nice facility, a modern facility with things that 1353 01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:58,720 Speaker 3: help increase performance. 1354 01:02:58,200 --> 01:02:59,920 Speaker 4: Functionality, no doubt, and you know what it is. 1355 01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:03,640 Speaker 3: It screams investment. You're invested in my son. You know 1356 01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,600 Speaker 3: you are going to do everything possible to make them elite. 1357 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:08,760 Speaker 3: So I think that part's gonna it's going to really 1358 01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,800 Speaker 3: not besides turning heads, it changes the mindset and the 1359 01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:16,880 Speaker 3: perspective of Okay, Miami really is completely invested in. 1360 01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:18,360 Speaker 1: And that's just part of it. 1361 01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,840 Speaker 3: Because it includes an expansion of the indoor and some 1362 01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,920 Speaker 3: other pieces. It is a monstrosity of a project, and 1363 01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:27,360 Speaker 3: it's so I'm looking forward to it. We could, you know, 1364 01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,000 Speaker 3: you got a crew here, Mail, we could start knocking 1365 01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,640 Speaker 3: down some things and moving a tractor over if we can. 1366 01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:33,280 Speaker 2: You know, well, I mean you open the building and 1367 01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:35,440 Speaker 2: this is what we bring in here, we appreciate it. 1368 01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,640 Speaker 2: So there's a word that you like to use a lot, 1369 01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,959 Speaker 2: and the word is creature. And maybe when you came 1370 01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,640 Speaker 2: here there were some creatures in the building, not nearly 1371 01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,400 Speaker 2: as many as you would have wanted. I've been down 1372 01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,640 Speaker 2: here about seventy two hours by the time this airs, 1373 01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:54,000 Speaker 2: and I've seen some high school creatures walk through the 1374 01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:58,280 Speaker 2: building and without mentioning specifics obviously, but sticking to generalities, 1375 01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,880 Speaker 2: I know that you got big weekends coming up and 1376 01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:02,680 Speaker 2: this time of year now it just used to be 1377 01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,600 Speaker 2: vacation time. And now it's like the heart of recruiting season. 1378 01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,840 Speaker 2: Costs the way the calendar's changed. Everybody says they take 1379 01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:09,640 Speaker 2: recruiting seriously. 1380 01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:11,080 Speaker 4: I don't think. 1381 01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:13,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I've I've been around the Georgia's, the Bamas, 1382 01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,920 Speaker 2: and you've been around the Bama program. You did it 1383 01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,120 Speaker 2: at Oregon. It looks like it's happening again here. I mean, 1384 01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:22,000 Speaker 2: how Razor Sharp is the focus day to day on 1385 01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:23,360 Speaker 2: recruiting and talent acquisition. 1386 01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:28,040 Speaker 3: It is, It's part of it's a way of life 1387 01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,240 Speaker 3: at this time of year, and it really is. 1388 01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:33,480 Speaker 1: It's an everyday thing, you know. 1389 01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:35,680 Speaker 3: I had one head coach to say, you know, it's 1390 01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:37,960 Speaker 3: like it's like brushing your teeth and combing your hair. 1391 01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:39,600 Speaker 3: If you don't do it every day, it ain't gonna 1392 01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:41,240 Speaker 3: look very good. You know, You've got to do it 1393 01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,600 Speaker 3: all the time. So but I've had good mentors as 1394 01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,040 Speaker 3: it relates to recruiting, and I just believe in it. 1395 01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,000 Speaker 3: I really want to know and get to know the 1396 01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,400 Speaker 3: people that are going to be on this team inside 1397 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,080 Speaker 3: that locker room. But you also got to combine it 1398 01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:55,520 Speaker 3: with player development and your own locker room. 1399 01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:56,160 Speaker 1: And we do. 1400 01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:57,800 Speaker 3: You know, we split up the day where we're spending 1401 01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:00,280 Speaker 3: time with our guys, we're spending time on scheme, spending 1402 01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,680 Speaker 3: time on upcoming opponents, and we're spending time on recruiting. 1403 01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,360 Speaker 3: Just the days are a little bit longer in the 1404 01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:09,040 Speaker 3: summer than they used to be, and there's the weekends 1405 01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:12,480 Speaker 3: you're working. There is no Hey, Friday comes around and 1406 01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,080 Speaker 3: there's some time off. You've got official visits, you've got 1407 01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:19,560 Speaker 3: unofficial visits, and everyone's fighting for these visits. So whenever 1408 01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:21,320 Speaker 3: you can get the guys on campus, you want to 1409 01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:22,680 Speaker 3: get them there and make sure you're available. 1410 01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,240 Speaker 2: This whole thing you're talking about fighting to get visits 1411 01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,240 Speaker 2: is frankly not something that gets talked about a lot. 1412 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:32,280 Speaker 2: I mean, everybody talks about your battling Clemson or Georgia 1413 01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:35,040 Speaker 2: or Tennessee for a high four star linebacker. They don't 1414 01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,080 Speaker 2: even talk about battling to get the visit. What goes 1415 01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:40,960 Speaker 2: into battling just to get guys on campus and how 1416 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,840 Speaker 2: well does it play into your hands that you're in Miami, Florida. 1417 01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,320 Speaker 3: They have to meet certain criteria besides the stuff we 1418 01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,080 Speaker 3: see on film, the background check. He's got to be 1419 01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:52,400 Speaker 3: a real one off the field, and he's got to 1420 01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,360 Speaker 3: possess the characteristics that that we're looking for in terms 1421 01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:57,360 Speaker 3: of work ethic, toughness, character. 1422 01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:58,800 Speaker 1: Everyone has their stuff, you know. 1423 01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:03,200 Speaker 3: That's nothing you know extraordinary, you know, or anything that's 1424 01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:08,320 Speaker 3: that's new, but you have to you have to make 1425 01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,560 Speaker 3: sure it fits and you also have to make sure 1426 01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,280 Speaker 3: there's a legitimate interest. Especially now right there's there's an 1427 01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:18,280 Speaker 3: unlimited visit you know, new little addition to the NCAA rules, 1428 01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,920 Speaker 3: so guys can visit as many times they want, wherever 1429 01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:22,560 Speaker 3: they want. You want to make sure that you're never 1430 01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:25,840 Speaker 3: just a waste visit because you still have you're subjected 1431 01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:29,640 Speaker 3: to fifty six plus six left over, and you know, 1432 01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:31,760 Speaker 3: use the NCAA. At least last year they were able 1433 01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:33,640 Speaker 3: to add some more at the end. So you still 1434 01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,520 Speaker 3: have to be selective as so when you get them, 1435 01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:37,439 Speaker 3: but you gotta fight for them, and everybody everybody wants 1436 01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:39,800 Speaker 3: the same guys, right, and then there's a couple of 1437 01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,520 Speaker 3: guys that pop in and certainly those guys when they 1438 01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:45,919 Speaker 3: do pop. It's the day and age of social media. 1439 01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,320 Speaker 3: Everybody finds out. Do you remember the days? I mean 1440 01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:51,360 Speaker 3: back then you can. There was no what's that little device? 1441 01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:56,040 Speaker 3: The old navigation, the Magellans, the Magenity, the old Magellan. 1442 01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:57,680 Speaker 1: Right, so even. 1443 01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:00,600 Speaker 3: Before that, they were just maps, right. There was word 1444 01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:03,320 Speaker 3: of mouth, there was a newspaper, and so you had 1445 01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:06,120 Speaker 3: to go and put in time and watch a guy practice, right, 1446 01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:07,720 Speaker 3: and you had to make sure when you called that 1447 01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:09,520 Speaker 3: school the coach happened to be in the office because 1448 01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:11,640 Speaker 3: there were no cell phones, and you want to make 1449 01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:13,640 Speaker 3: sure you got there for a practice or for a workout. 1450 01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:16,479 Speaker 3: So those days are gone. You could stump, you could, 1451 01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:19,920 Speaker 3: you could secretly find an absolute stud and no one 1452 01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:23,000 Speaker 3: else knew about it. Now, the moment someone's offered, it's 1453 01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:26,080 Speaker 3: you know, blessed to be offered by, right. 1454 01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:30,120 Speaker 2: I mean you're talking you're talking about the computerization essentially 1455 01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:32,520 Speaker 2: of recruiting, yes, and you're talking to It's like people 1456 01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:35,280 Speaker 2: talk about the computerization of medical records and what it did. 1457 01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:39,000 Speaker 4: Well, that's wonderful, but in your world, I mean, that's. 1458 01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:40,960 Speaker 2: Why you used to have so many diamonds in the 1459 01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:43,000 Speaker 2: rough that's why there used to be these stories of 1460 01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:46,040 Speaker 2: kids that weren't on like the parade All American List. Well, 1461 01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:48,000 Speaker 2: it's caused they came from a high school with fifty 1462 01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:50,800 Speaker 2: six in their graduating class, and they're from like the 1463 01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:54,320 Speaker 2: backwoods of Louisiana, and the LSU coaches knew about him, 1464 01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,200 Speaker 2: but no one else did. That's right, we're talking about 1465 01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,520 Speaker 2: the Everglades down here. The Miami coaches may have known 1466 01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:00,560 Speaker 2: about him, Howard Snellenberger may have known about it, but 1467 01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,800 Speaker 2: no one else did. And it's it's almost like if 1468 01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:06,760 Speaker 2: you knew the back roads back then in your territory 1469 01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:09,120 Speaker 2: and you were in a really hot bed for recruiting, 1470 01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:10,120 Speaker 2: you gave yourself a leg up. 1471 01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:11,720 Speaker 4: And now like PJ. 1472 01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,520 Speaker 2: Fleck, the head coach at Minnesota, knows about the guys 1473 01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:16,639 Speaker 2: in South Florida that you know about. And so it's 1474 01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:20,040 Speaker 2: it's not that maybe someone's on a different playing field. 1475 01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:22,120 Speaker 2: It's like the playing field's more level, and now you 1476 01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,479 Speaker 2: just got to go win recruiting wars. And like I 1477 01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:26,519 Speaker 2: said earlier, a lot of folks look at recruiting and 1478 01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:28,519 Speaker 2: they say, oh, we want to go recruit South Florida. 1479 01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:32,120 Speaker 2: Everyone comes down here and I've said on this show 1480 01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:35,439 Speaker 2: for a long time, everyone else is focused on like 1481 01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,800 Speaker 2: an expanded playoff to try and try and even it 1482 01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,519 Speaker 2: out and inject parody. And I've looked at the teams 1483 01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,639 Speaker 2: that are dominating the playoff and they all come down 1484 01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:45,680 Speaker 2: here and get a ton of talent because the n 1485 01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:48,320 Speaker 2: state schools and Miami's been included, had not been keeping 1486 01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:51,120 Speaker 2: them at home. So from my math, and it could 1487 01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,760 Speaker 2: be a little shoddy, but from my math, you just 1488 01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:55,240 Speaker 2: keep your guys home, not all of them. 1489 01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:56,280 Speaker 4: You don't even have to get all of them. 1490 01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:57,880 Speaker 2: You keep more guys home, and all of a sudden, 1491 01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:00,920 Speaker 2: you landing one of them is also Ohio State not 1492 01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:01,840 Speaker 2: landing one of them. 1493 01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:03,559 Speaker 4: And it's it's really crazy. 1494 01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:05,439 Speaker 2: What over the course of two or three cycles that 1495 01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,799 Speaker 2: can do for parody and competitive balance in college football. 1496 01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:10,519 Speaker 4: That's not even a question. By the way, I'm just 1497 01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:11,639 Speaker 4: tossing the statement you're with. 1498 01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:14,840 Speaker 3: I think you're you're spot on. I mean, Ruben Bain 1499 01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:16,760 Speaker 3: coming to Miami is a big deal. 1500 01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:19,120 Speaker 2: You know, he wouldn't have he would not have been 1501 01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:22,280 Speaker 2: here two cycles ago. Is my unprofessional opinion. 1502 01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:25,679 Speaker 3: You know, Ray Ray, Joseph ray Ray was committed somewhere 1503 01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:29,120 Speaker 3: else within the conference, you know, before the staff arrived 1504 01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,280 Speaker 3: and just went at it hard because he's a dynamic 1505 01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:35,639 Speaker 3: football player. Nigelie Kelly is like that to Maury Brown, 1506 01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:37,840 Speaker 3: right right up the road he was headed. You know, 1507 01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:41,960 Speaker 3: tots of mother schools, maybe in another conference. Mark Fletcher, 1508 01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:44,000 Speaker 3: you know you saw him today. I mean, these are 1509 01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:46,880 Speaker 3: Wesley Bassaint, I mean, I could go on and on 1510 01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,639 Speaker 3: and these guys are they're game changers. 1511 01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,280 Speaker 1: And like you mentioned, it's if. 1512 01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:55,960 Speaker 3: You recruit the right guys right that helps you build 1513 01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:57,960 Speaker 3: a program, you have success. If you miss on that 1514 01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:01,240 Speaker 3: right guy, well you better recruit a guy that's able 1515 01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:03,800 Speaker 3: to diffuse him when you play that team. If you 1516 01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:07,160 Speaker 3: recruit the wrong guy, that guy beat you every single day, 1517 01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,679 Speaker 3: not just once a year. So it's about still getting 1518 01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:11,719 Speaker 3: the right guys. Like we had a study and looking 1519 01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:14,720 Speaker 3: at the national championship teams here and some were just 1520 01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:17,760 Speaker 3: South Florida Leyden, they really were. And then you looked 1521 01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:19,799 Speaker 3: at the two thousand and one team and you realize, 1522 01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,560 Speaker 3: you know, the left tackle was from New Jersey and 1523 01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,080 Speaker 3: the left guard was from Pennsylvania. In the center from 1524 01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:27,479 Speaker 3: he's going to claim he's from Canada, but he's right 1525 01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,000 Speaker 3: there is outside of Canada. 1526 01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:32,200 Speaker 1: He's over in Detroit, and the right guard was. 1527 01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,680 Speaker 3: From Iran and the quarterback was from California, and all 1528 01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:36,960 Speaker 3: of a sudden that team was built differently, But it 1529 01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,559 Speaker 3: was the right guys, you know, because it's like once 1530 01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:41,400 Speaker 3: they got here, they became part of the culture. So 1531 01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:43,960 Speaker 3: there's a little bit of give and take there, and 1532 01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:46,280 Speaker 3: as much as anything else as making sure you keep 1533 01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,400 Speaker 3: local talent home, it's got to be the right local talent, 1534 01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:50,559 Speaker 3: and when you go outside, you better get the right 1535 01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:52,559 Speaker 3: talent as well. They got to have the right people 1536 01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:55,519 Speaker 3: that had the right mindset because if not, that can 1537 01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:56,960 Speaker 3: hurt you more than anything. 1538 01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:58,759 Speaker 1: That can hurt you more than missing on a good player. 1539 01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,320 Speaker 2: We sat down with Shannon Dawson for like an hour 1540 01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:05,400 Speaker 2: the other day. It felt like about twenty minutes, but 1541 01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:07,760 Speaker 2: he walked us through some of the spring game and 1542 01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:11,240 Speaker 2: we specifically looked at Tyler van Dyk, and it's obviously 1543 01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:13,679 Speaker 2: pivotal to have him coming back for another year. It's 1544 01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,599 Speaker 2: obviously pivotal that when we were watching these offensive linemen 1545 01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:19,240 Speaker 2: out here work out earlier today, a number of them 1546 01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:22,720 Speaker 2: that will probably start were here last year and so 1547 01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,040 Speaker 2: keeping him up right's really important. But what's funny is 1548 01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:29,000 Speaker 2: Shannon Dawson comes in from Houston and everyone thinks air raid. 1549 01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:31,360 Speaker 2: And I asked him, hey, coming out of spring, what 1550 01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:32,680 Speaker 2: stands out to you the most? And he said, I 1551 01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:33,840 Speaker 2: think we're going to be able to run the ball 1552 01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,120 Speaker 2: a whole lot better. And that's not the sentence that 1553 01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:37,800 Speaker 2: you would expect to come out of an air raid 1554 01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,200 Speaker 2: guy's mouth. But then again, he also said, I mean, 1555 01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:41,200 Speaker 2: what does air raid mean? 1556 01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:42,479 Speaker 4: Really? What does it mean? 1557 01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:45,559 Speaker 2: You're talking about a spread offense? What does spread offense 1558 01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:47,599 Speaker 2: really mean? There's so many different concepts to go into it, 1559 01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:49,360 Speaker 2: but to win at the point of attack and to 1560 01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:53,280 Speaker 2: be able to run the ball. When you think about 1561 01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:58,240 Speaker 2: the Mario Cristoball football philosophy, what does the ideal offense 1562 01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:00,360 Speaker 2: look like? Aside from scoring more points in the other team, 1563 01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:01,680 Speaker 2: how do you go about doing it? 1564 01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:04,040 Speaker 3: You got to play with speed and power, and you've 1565 01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:05,600 Speaker 3: got to be efficient. You got to be able to 1566 01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:09,240 Speaker 3: control the line of scrimmage, go through people, around. 1567 01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:10,400 Speaker 1: People, over the top of people. 1568 01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:13,439 Speaker 3: You've got to be able to go fast when it's 1569 01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:14,680 Speaker 3: time to go fast. You got to be able to 1570 01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:16,240 Speaker 3: slow it down when it's trying to slow it down, 1571 01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:18,840 Speaker 3: but you've got to be able to take control of 1572 01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:22,920 Speaker 3: the game, and it starts upfront. Then you really have 1573 01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,680 Speaker 3: to assess your talent, which I think coach Dawson and 1574 01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:27,439 Speaker 3: the office stat did a great job of doing to 1575 01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:30,200 Speaker 3: see what can you really do well to be adaptable 1576 01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:31,840 Speaker 3: enough to know that every year's team is going to 1577 01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:35,200 Speaker 3: be different and find out what they can do so 1578 01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:37,040 Speaker 3: you could practice that, get good at it, and then 1579 01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:38,679 Speaker 3: compliment it with all your other stuff. 1580 01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:39,479 Speaker 1: You know. 1581 01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:42,559 Speaker 3: He might come from the air raid tree, but he 1582 01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:49,280 Speaker 3: is a very very diverse play caller. He his menu 1583 01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:53,479 Speaker 3: is very extensive. He has done with a lot of 1584 01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:55,920 Speaker 3: the air raid guys have done. They've gone around and 1585 01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:58,360 Speaker 3: they have taken in certain parts of the run game 1586 01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:00,760 Speaker 3: at different spots, and he does it and calls it 1587 01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:05,760 Speaker 3: and formations it extremely extremely well. He understands backfield sets, 1588 01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:08,639 Speaker 3: he understands formations, the boundary as opposed to the field, 1589 01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:11,800 Speaker 3: how to affect you know, support players the back end, 1590 01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:14,639 Speaker 3: and how to help the quarterback in the RPO world. 1591 01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:17,880 Speaker 3: I mean, he is he's an absolute stud and what 1592 01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:20,559 Speaker 3: he does fits us really well because he understands that 1593 01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:23,439 Speaker 3: we're always going to recruit some really big, powerful offensive lineman. 1594 01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:24,960 Speaker 1: We're always going to have a strong running game. 1595 01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:27,679 Speaker 3: We have a talented quarterback and some talented young guys, 1596 01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:28,599 Speaker 3: and we're starting to get. 1597 01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:31,479 Speaker 1: Some legitimate speed outside. He's going to combine them all. 1598 01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:31,960 Speaker 1: He did that. 1599 01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:35,200 Speaker 3: Our guys love him because he's a great person, and 1600 01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:37,040 Speaker 3: when they sit with him, they can tell he knows 1601 01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:37,800 Speaker 3: what he's talking about. 1602 01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:38,559 Speaker 1: He made them better. 1603 01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:41,160 Speaker 3: These guys had a lot of success in the spring, 1604 01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:42,760 Speaker 3: and they know that we're going to push him even 1605 01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:43,439 Speaker 3: harder in the fall. 1606 01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,479 Speaker 2: What were the things when you just did that brutal 1607 01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:49,360 Speaker 2: self assessment of the entire last year before you guys 1608 01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:50,080 Speaker 2: win in the spring. 1609 01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:52,839 Speaker 4: There are tons of areas of focus. 1610 01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:57,120 Speaker 2: Every position group has areas of focus, but team overall, defense, offense, 1611 01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:02,080 Speaker 2: special teams. What were the the core hammer home points? 1612 01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:04,640 Speaker 2: These are non negotiables. These are where we got to 1613 01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:06,320 Speaker 2: get a lot better or we're gonna suffer the same 1614 01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:07,120 Speaker 2: fate this next ball. 1615 01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,599 Speaker 3: Upfront, You know, we had a we struggled to run 1616 01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:14,080 Speaker 3: the football, and uh, we struggled to protect the quarterback 1617 01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:18,559 Speaker 3: at times. And again I don't I would never blame 1618 01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:20,439 Speaker 3: a certain player when I got to put on everybody 1619 01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:22,599 Speaker 3: on our entire organization. You know, we got a scheme 1620 01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:24,960 Speaker 3: it better. You got to get better personnel, you've got 1621 01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:26,600 Speaker 3: to develop better in the weight room. It just it 1622 01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:32,040 Speaker 3: didn't look like what it's It's not what we do, 1623 01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:35,080 Speaker 3: you know, but we have to own it because that's 1624 01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:37,280 Speaker 3: what we ended up playing like, that's how we ended 1625 01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:40,920 Speaker 3: up coaching it. So with us, we started up front 1626 01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:43,640 Speaker 3: that was a complete non negotiable on both sides of 1627 01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:46,200 Speaker 3: the ball. We had to make sure that from a 1628 01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:49,600 Speaker 3: physicality standpoint that our second level defenders had to be 1629 01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:52,519 Speaker 3: knock back tacklers. Felt like, you know, when it was 1630 01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:55,120 Speaker 3: a short yarded situation, we weren't. We weren't getting enough 1631 01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,920 Speaker 3: push on the offensive side, we were getting knocked back 1632 01:14:57,920 --> 01:14:59,800 Speaker 3: a little bit on the defensive side, and we were 1633 01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:03,400 Speaker 3: more of a of a drag down you know tackling 1634 01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:09,880 Speaker 3: operation and a knockback tackling operation. And then to continue 1635 01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:12,520 Speaker 3: to I would say, just be a little bit more complex, 1636 01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:15,720 Speaker 3: you know, on the back end, to make sure that 1637 01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:18,720 Speaker 3: when teams got in certain alignments, certain formations, that we 1638 01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:21,120 Speaker 3: weren't as predictable to be able to give our guys 1639 01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:23,880 Speaker 3: a chance and not always be you know, in similar looks. 1640 01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:25,519 Speaker 1: Now, I get it, that's part of your one. 1641 01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:27,240 Speaker 3: You've got to be a little bit vanillas, so you 1642 01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:30,800 Speaker 3: can get to stuff that's part of your base, you know, 1643 01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:35,720 Speaker 3: foundation to get that installed. But I think the diversity 1644 01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:39,400 Speaker 3: of the multiplicity, I should say, of coach Gidrie and 1645 01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:42,200 Speaker 3: what he does as well as Coach Dawson is going 1646 01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:44,840 Speaker 3: to be hard to prepare for. You know, they're humble dudes, 1647 01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:49,040 Speaker 3: but they grind and how they do things. Their explanations 1648 01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:52,360 Speaker 3: are easy to learn, but I think hard to defend. 1649 01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:54,280 Speaker 3: Our guys have enjoyed him so far. 1650 01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:58,360 Speaker 2: How often times do you use places you've been as 1651 01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:03,200 Speaker 2: reference points for staffers and for your players. I mean, 1652 01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:05,639 Speaker 2: you were on probably the deepest coaching staff I've ever 1653 01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:07,479 Speaker 2: seen in Alabama in the mid twenty teens. 1654 01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:08,679 Speaker 4: You went up to Oregon. 1655 01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,719 Speaker 2: You guys had PAC twelve championship teams up there, Rose 1656 01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:14,479 Speaker 2: Bowl teams, and so you could if you wanted to 1657 01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:16,880 Speaker 2: go in your bag and say, here's the way I've 1658 01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:18,960 Speaker 2: had it before, Here's what it's looked like when I've 1659 01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:19,599 Speaker 2: won before. 1660 01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:20,720 Speaker 4: And we're not there yet. 1661 01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:22,880 Speaker 2: I just want to illustrate to you how wide the 1662 01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:25,559 Speaker 2: gap is between where we are now and this right here, 1663 01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:26,880 Speaker 2: this is where we need to be. Do you ever 1664 01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:28,879 Speaker 2: pull that out or do you just define the standard 1665 01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:30,360 Speaker 2: and let them know when they're not there? 1666 01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:31,799 Speaker 1: Different starting points. 1667 01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,880 Speaker 3: Again, I think the Oregon piece has a lot of 1668 01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:37,400 Speaker 3: similarities because that was a four and eight team that 1669 01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:41,479 Speaker 3: we took over. FIU is probably a similar one, you know, 1670 01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:46,320 Speaker 3: as well. The Bama one was already that would be 1671 01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:49,559 Speaker 3: a model of more of sustaining or reclaiming a title 1672 01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:52,320 Speaker 3: and then sustaining it or whatnot. But there's there's a 1673 01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:54,760 Speaker 3: lot of similarities. I mean, I think there's probably a 1674 01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:56,720 Speaker 3: dozen teams that practiced the same way. If you went 1675 01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:59,200 Speaker 3: and got the practice script, you would see the exact 1676 01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:02,599 Speaker 3: same periods, right, You'd see your your blitz walk through 1677 01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:06,240 Speaker 3: to your flex period, to your fifteen minutes of indeed 1678 01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:08,760 Speaker 3: to your seven on seven run to your five on 1679 01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,520 Speaker 3: four pass for us, you'd see the same stuff. 1680 01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:14,120 Speaker 1: And that stuff works. You can't buy a pass. 1681 01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:16,920 Speaker 3: That at all, And I think I think even thinking 1682 01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,000 Speaker 3: that way is dangerous. 1683 01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:19,839 Speaker 1: And detrimental to a program. 1684 01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:22,240 Speaker 3: You have to practice in a physical manner to be 1685 01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:24,680 Speaker 3: a physical football team. You don't put your team at 1686 01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:27,599 Speaker 3: risk by doing stuff that's not intelligent. Stuff doesn't help 1687 01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:30,120 Speaker 3: your team get better. But to play a certain way, 1688 01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:31,920 Speaker 3: you got to practice a certain way and we believe 1689 01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:33,800 Speaker 3: in that, okay, and we're going to be a line 1690 01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:34,799 Speaker 3: of scrimmage operation. 1691 01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:37,360 Speaker 1: So there the carryover is real. 1692 01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:41,800 Speaker 3: Instances, examples are real, the stories are phenomenal. You know, 1693 01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:44,400 Speaker 3: you can't I can always I can't get into those here, 1694 01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:47,240 Speaker 3: that's for sure. But you live and learn. Man, there's 1695 01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:50,280 Speaker 3: some unbelievable moments and experiences. You're super thankful for them. 1696 01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:52,040 Speaker 3: You take them and you move on. 1697 01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:56,920 Speaker 2: What what motivates you professionally and personally? What motivates you? 1698 01:17:56,920 --> 01:18:00,240 Speaker 3: Oh, I've always been motivated for by competition, and I 1699 01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:01,479 Speaker 3: just I've. 1700 01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:04,679 Speaker 1: Always loved it. Man. I just I credit my parents. 1701 01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:05,760 Speaker 1: I don't know what they did. 1702 01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:07,920 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm you know, I'm the kid at you 1703 01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:10,000 Speaker 3: know when they had you at church and you know 1704 01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:11,439 Speaker 3: they tell you to pray and you're you got your 1705 01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:13,879 Speaker 3: your squeeze in your hands and you're got your eyes. 1706 01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:15,559 Speaker 4: Really be the most white knuckle prayer in the building. 1707 01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:17,240 Speaker 3: Well when you when you're in there, you're doing that 1708 01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:18,960 Speaker 3: and then your mom's like, wow, you're a good kid. 1709 01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:21,160 Speaker 3: What are you praying for I'm paying for the Pittsburgh Scheelers, 1710 01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:23,600 Speaker 3: the Hurricanes to win. It's like whack backhand, you know, 1711 01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:26,760 Speaker 3: Like I've always loved it. I've always lived and died 1712 01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:29,759 Speaker 3: for football. I I love football because I love football. 1713 01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:33,520 Speaker 3: Either's that's that's my football. Why people have their whits. 1714 01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:36,720 Speaker 3: I love everything about it. The discipline, the toughness, the 1715 01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:38,720 Speaker 3: way to knock you back, knock you down and make 1716 01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:41,880 Speaker 3: you like really get back up and really go forward 1717 01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,960 Speaker 3: and have the support of your team. Sometimes sometimes not. 1718 01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:46,639 Speaker 3: Sometimes you got to figure it out on your own. 1719 01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:49,519 Speaker 3: So I'm all about it. I'm all about the life 1720 01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:52,160 Speaker 3: changing opportunity that it is for these guys. And it 1721 01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:55,120 Speaker 3: really is. And if I wish you could come with 1722 01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:56,880 Speaker 3: me today as we go into the inner city with 1723 01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:59,920 Speaker 3: about fifty players and we and we coach and host 1724 01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:03,080 Speaker 3: these these camps, because you're going to see at least 1725 01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:07,439 Speaker 3: fifty superstars, fifty future NFL superstars out there that they 1726 01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:09,720 Speaker 3: don't look six and seven years old, you know they are. 1727 01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:12,960 Speaker 3: They're moving fast, and they're playing strong, and the pride 1728 01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:13,720 Speaker 3: in the community. 1729 01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:16,920 Speaker 1: Well man, this is this is where I was born 1730 01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:18,000 Speaker 1: and raised. 1731 01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:21,960 Speaker 3: Okay, this is this is not just a shirt that 1732 01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:24,880 Speaker 3: you know, Hey, this is the next job, and here's 1733 01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:25,920 Speaker 3: a shirt you've got to wear. 1734 01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:29,040 Speaker 1: When you're on a camera. This thing is in the blood. 1735 01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:33,200 Speaker 3: And is that part of the motivational Hell yeah, it's 1736 01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:38,599 Speaker 3: it always will be. But there's there's everything to work about, 1737 01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:40,599 Speaker 3: and there's not much to talk about as it relates 1738 01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:42,280 Speaker 3: to that. We got to go to work and every 1739 01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:45,639 Speaker 3: day we change things in a positive manner a little 1740 01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:46,599 Speaker 3: bit more and more. 1741 01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:48,120 Speaker 1: So. 1742 01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:51,240 Speaker 3: Anyways, that's another tangent for you right there. But today 1743 01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:54,720 Speaker 3: grassroots recruiting. I want those guys when they're this tall, 1744 01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:57,800 Speaker 3: weren't hurricane gear. So when they're this tall, I'll do 1745 01:19:57,800 --> 01:19:58,759 Speaker 3: all these official visits. 1746 01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:00,960 Speaker 2: Man, that just come out of What was funny is 1747 01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:03,840 Speaker 2: you guys had a building full of young kids in 1748 01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:06,400 Speaker 2: here yesterday, all the way from like first grade to 1749 01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:09,000 Speaker 2: sixth grade. And right as you were walking down that staircase, 1750 01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,400 Speaker 2: you said, Hey, the first graders, okay. 1751 01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:12,840 Speaker 1: But there's some fifth graders down there. 1752 01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:14,200 Speaker 4: Have you seen that fifth grader over there? 1753 01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:16,479 Speaker 2: And it's funny, how I mean, I'm looking at you 1754 01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:18,200 Speaker 2: and I'm kind of laughing, and you do have a 1755 01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:20,240 Speaker 2: smile on your face. But it's one of those serious 1756 01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:22,639 Speaker 2: smiles where note, you can tell that kid, right, there's. 1757 01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:22,960 Speaker 4: Gonna be good. 1758 01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:24,760 Speaker 2: It's gonna be like half a decade from now before 1759 01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:26,680 Speaker 2: we ease ever on our radar are able to visit here. 1760 01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:28,360 Speaker 2: But it's funny how you can see some of that 1761 01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:31,200 Speaker 2: stuff really early on because there were some legitimate like 1762 01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:34,040 Speaker 2: elementary school, middle school athletes in here yesterday. 1763 01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:37,880 Speaker 3: Oh down here, football is life, it is. You know 1764 01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:40,639 Speaker 3: you talked to Shannon Dawson, and I'm glad you did. 1765 01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:42,160 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you why. 1766 01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:49,679 Speaker 3: Like Miami with an exciting offense is a really powerful 1767 01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:53,040 Speaker 3: thing and a powerful brand. There are so many unbelievable 1768 01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:56,800 Speaker 3: athletes down here and they've been they've been screaming for. 1769 01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:58,040 Speaker 1: This for a long long time. 1770 01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:02,000 Speaker 3: And that's why Shannon and that hire is so important. 1771 01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:06,240 Speaker 3: He's he brings that explosive offense and the details that 1772 01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:08,760 Speaker 3: go with it, while at the same time having the 1773 01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:11,920 Speaker 3: NFL development aspect that goes with that, so that guys know, hey, 1774 01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:15,000 Speaker 3: I'm sto in a high octane college offense. I'm in 1775 01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:18,680 Speaker 3: a in an offense. It's gonna teach me professional concepts 1776 01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:22,040 Speaker 3: and help me develop and the amount of momentum and 1777 01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:26,040 Speaker 3: excitement that is stirring up and will stir up as 1778 01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:27,760 Speaker 3: we get better and better, and we've got to prove 1779 01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:28,439 Speaker 3: it on the field. 1780 01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:30,519 Speaker 1: And the confidence that. 1781 01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:32,280 Speaker 3: You build with at the trust you build with that, 1782 01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:34,679 Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's very powerful. 1783 01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:36,320 Speaker 1: I'm glad you got to sit in there with him. 1784 01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:42,559 Speaker 3: I mean that that parlays into right, a great defensive 1785 01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:44,919 Speaker 3: class because great players want to play with great players. 1786 01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:47,400 Speaker 4: You just went and rated Louisiana. 1787 01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:49,240 Speaker 2: Essentially, you just went and found the best two dudes 1788 01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:50,480 Speaker 2: you can fire from Louisiana. 1789 01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:53,519 Speaker 4: DC OC. Let's go to work. 1790 01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:54,439 Speaker 1: It's a it's a. 1791 01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:55,760 Speaker 4: Unique culture in Louisiana too. 1792 01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:58,120 Speaker 2: I know you're not from there, but when those guys 1793 01:21:58,200 --> 01:21:59,840 Speaker 2: sort of get in a room together, I witnessed it 1794 01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:02,080 Speaker 2: with when those Louisiana's get in. 1795 01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:03,960 Speaker 4: The room together, you they can go. 1796 01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:05,479 Speaker 2: You just kind of sit back, You just kind of 1797 01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:07,320 Speaker 2: put your feet up on the desk. You don't understand 1798 01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:10,160 Speaker 2: like thirty percent of the words, but it's okay. You 1799 01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:11,880 Speaker 2: just kind of pick up things as you go along. 1800 01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:14,439 Speaker 2: But those two dudes, I mean, I don't think most 1801 01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:16,840 Speaker 2: people realize they're both from the same state, and that 1802 01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:19,479 Speaker 2: we're not talking about like New Orleans either. We're talking 1803 01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:23,599 Speaker 2: about rural Louisiana. And it's always funny because in a sense, 1804 01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:26,639 Speaker 2: there's there's this blue collar kind of culture from there 1805 01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:28,840 Speaker 2: that you see from certain parts of this city as well. 1806 01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:29,599 Speaker 1: Well. 1807 01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:31,559 Speaker 3: It's it's kind of like we talked about, great players 1808 01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:34,360 Speaker 3: want to play with great players. They did know each 1809 01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:36,559 Speaker 3: other a little bit, and when we hired one, the 1810 01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:38,920 Speaker 3: other one wanted to come right away, and that was 1811 01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:41,040 Speaker 3: that was really neat, you know, I mean, he's at 1812 01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:42,639 Speaker 3: the end of the day, these guys are really they're 1813 01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:45,559 Speaker 3: they're high level professionals. They're great people. I mean, there 1814 01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:46,840 Speaker 3: are people you want to hang out with. They are 1815 01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:49,479 Speaker 3: people you're going to trust your own sung with, you know, 1816 01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:50,400 Speaker 3: and they get after it. 1817 01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:52,959 Speaker 1: Now. I mean, these guys are they're they're bald junkies 1818 01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:54,240 Speaker 1: and you got to have that. 1819 01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:57,240 Speaker 3: And if you walk the hallways of the University of 1820 01:22:57,240 --> 01:23:01,400 Speaker 3: Miami Football the building, what you're going to see is 1821 01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:03,760 Speaker 3: a reflection of the city. You know, if you've had 1822 01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:06,200 Speaker 3: a chance to walk around the city, this is the 1823 01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:09,120 Speaker 3: most diverse city maybe in the world. We come in 1824 01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:12,160 Speaker 3: all kinds of shape, sizes, and colors, ethnicities and language. 1825 01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:13,479 Speaker 1: And if you walk. 1826 01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:16,840 Speaker 3: Upstairs, you'll see American Samoa in one office, right, you'll 1827 01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:19,040 Speaker 3: see in Miami, Florida, and the other one, like you mention, 1828 01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:22,400 Speaker 3: you'll see Louisiana. You'll see North and South Carolina. You'll 1829 01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:26,360 Speaker 3: see people from all over the place, and like here 1830 01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:29,600 Speaker 3: in this city, I'm being raised here Like that is 1831 01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:34,120 Speaker 3: really cool, and even as a father, it was important 1832 01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:35,519 Speaker 3: for me to get my family or so they could 1833 01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:37,680 Speaker 3: experience that. That's really important. Man. 1834 01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:38,960 Speaker 1: The world should be like that, right. 1835 01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:40,760 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not going to get in some type 1836 01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:43,880 Speaker 3: of philosophical speech here, but I think that's important. That's 1837 01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:46,519 Speaker 3: important for your team. These guys when they are going 1838 01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:48,599 Speaker 3: to be in the workforce or in an NFL locker 1839 01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:50,719 Speaker 3: room that is as diverse as it gets as well, 1840 01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:53,519 Speaker 3: and it needs to be something that they feel not 1841 01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:56,599 Speaker 3: only comfortable with, but that they can excel in, right, 1842 01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:58,719 Speaker 3: and they feel that they can feel that they can enhance. 1843 01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:01,479 Speaker 1: So that's all part of Miami, all. 1844 01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:02,800 Speaker 2: Right, So pretend like you and I are not going 1845 01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:04,760 Speaker 2: to talk again before you guys play in week one? 1846 01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:07,120 Speaker 4: What can this team be this year? 1847 01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:09,759 Speaker 2: You've seen springs so far, and we got some summer 1848 01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:12,400 Speaker 2: conditioning happened. We're a couple of months away from fall camp. 1849 01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:14,599 Speaker 2: What can this team be this year? 1850 01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:14,760 Speaker 1: You know? 1851 01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:16,519 Speaker 3: And I know that's not an ass for a prediction, 1852 01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:19,080 Speaker 3: but it almost kind of treads on those lines. 1853 01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:21,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you want to go over that cliff, I'll 1854 01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:22,920 Speaker 2: gladly let's go cliff. 1855 01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:24,760 Speaker 1: It's polished that we never do. 1856 01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:28,080 Speaker 3: I know that this team is getting on a course 1857 01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:29,320 Speaker 3: to what we want to build it to be. 1858 01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:30,559 Speaker 1: I don't. 1859 01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:33,000 Speaker 3: It's not a cop out of an answer. I just 1860 01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:36,479 Speaker 3: don't get into that. I know we all know what 1861 01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:39,880 Speaker 3: Miami can be, and we all know what Miami should be, 1862 01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:43,320 Speaker 3: and we know internally the steps that have to be 1863 01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:46,000 Speaker 3: taken for it to get there. We've taken a really 1864 01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:49,400 Speaker 3: significant step this offseason, and honestly, we just got to 1865 01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:52,280 Speaker 3: shut our mouths and go to work. I don't like 1866 01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:55,400 Speaker 3: everything else outside of that, you know, Like for us, 1867 01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:56,519 Speaker 3: it's an honor to have you here. 1868 01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:59,280 Speaker 1: It really is your whole crew here. We thank you 1869 01:24:59,360 --> 01:24:59,559 Speaker 1: for that. 1870 01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:03,040 Speaker 3: We just like I've told you before, I'm the most 1871 01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:04,439 Speaker 3: point human being on Earth. 1872 01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:05,360 Speaker 1: Man. I don't do much. 1873 01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:08,920 Speaker 3: I don't I'm not in attracting attention. This crew right 1874 01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:11,040 Speaker 3: here knowing where Miami has to go. 1875 01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:12,320 Speaker 1: All the things that we're. 1876 01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:17,760 Speaker 3: Doing, the enhance nutritional aspect, the sports science guys, the 1877 01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:21,240 Speaker 3: mental health specialists that are in the building, the staff, 1878 01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:24,040 Speaker 3: the analysts, the type of recruiting that we've done, the 1879 01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:26,840 Speaker 3: type of body types that are in the building right now. 1880 01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:31,760 Speaker 3: The progress is very strong, and it's tangible, it's significant, 1881 01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:35,680 Speaker 3: and we've got to keep working our reality into existence. 1882 01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:36,720 Speaker 1: We just got to work. 1883 01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:40,320 Speaker 3: Brother, You're going to see a hard working, resilient, tough 1884 01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:43,040 Speaker 3: team that needs to keep working and keep getting better 1885 01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:45,639 Speaker 3: and the results that has to be proven on the field. 1886 01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:47,280 Speaker 3: I'm not even going to talk about what that has 1887 01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:47,760 Speaker 3: to be like. 1888 01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:50,360 Speaker 1: We know the endgame. We got to work to get there. 1889 01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:53,400 Speaker 2: There's an incredible energy in the building. We go to 1890 01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:55,040 Speaker 2: a lot of them, and so there's a lot of 1891 01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:58,000 Speaker 2: basis for comparison. You're in a bubble. Actually you've been 1892 01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:00,519 Speaker 2: out in the world as a staffer, but you're here 1893 01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:02,519 Speaker 2: at Coral Gables every day. We're all across the country. 1894 01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:05,439 Speaker 2: And trust me when I say, there's unique energy in 1895 01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:08,880 Speaker 2: this building. And so I almost relish the fact that 1896 01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:11,080 Speaker 2: you know, anytime we do a segment on Miami, we 1897 01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:13,000 Speaker 2: got some folks who believe in them in the comment section. 1898 01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:14,679 Speaker 2: We got some folks who's out in the comment section, 1899 01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:16,560 Speaker 2: which is college football. It's all that's ever been. But 1900 01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:19,639 Speaker 2: we appreciate you opening your doors to us. Staff treated 1901 01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:21,680 Speaker 2: us like family. I think some of us may just 1902 01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:24,080 Speaker 2: not leave. You got enough open offices in the building. 1903 01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:25,040 Speaker 2: We were just hang out here. 1904 01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:27,479 Speaker 1: But you guys fit because you're tough. You know. 1905 01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:30,360 Speaker 3: I got a chance to watch this right look of 1906 01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:32,200 Speaker 3: the crew. They're all flexing right now because they all 1907 01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:33,880 Speaker 3: went in there. They grind it out of workout. They 1908 01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:37,519 Speaker 3: got some like to be in Miami in any way, 1909 01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:39,439 Speaker 3: shape or form. If you're in the sportswek you got 1910 01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:42,479 Speaker 3: to be tough. And if you're affected by the external stuff, 1911 01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:44,679 Speaker 3: you got no chance. You shouldn't even be around. 1912 01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:47,000 Speaker 2: What's amazing is when you go in that weight room, 1913 01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:49,720 Speaker 2: you've got the records on the wall. Some of them 1914 01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:52,400 Speaker 2: are recent, some of them are from the eighties. Some 1915 01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:55,000 Speaker 2: of those guys have not had their records touched since 1916 01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:57,080 Speaker 2: they were walking around here in the eighties and nineties. 1917 01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:01,479 Speaker 2: And it's really wild to think about the dudes who 1918 01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:05,519 Speaker 2: walked around here before you had advanced nutrition, before you 1919 01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:06,599 Speaker 2: had sports science. 1920 01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:08,160 Speaker 4: No one even put those two words together. 1921 01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:11,080 Speaker 2: And there were some dudes who just came from South 1922 01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:14,600 Speaker 2: Florida in many cases, who were born like that and 1923 01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:17,759 Speaker 2: then came here and grinded and ate like a dozen 1924 01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:19,599 Speaker 2: scrambled eggs in the morning and went to work. 1925 01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:21,799 Speaker 4: And there's some pressive numbers in there. 1926 01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:24,160 Speaker 3: Well, you see there's a lot of guys up in there. 1927 01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:27,840 Speaker 3: You see ed Reed and Edgar and James, Dan Morgan, 1928 01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:30,280 Speaker 3: Bryant McKinnie. You'll see some hanging in the rafters here. 1929 01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:35,240 Speaker 3: That class, those two classes, that was the class that 1930 01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:39,320 Speaker 3: was that came about after a five and seven season typically. 1931 01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:41,719 Speaker 1: You know, I like to think that you do your. 1932 01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:45,680 Speaker 3: Best work as a competitor when your back's against the 1933 01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:49,200 Speaker 3: wall and you want to come out of there and 1934 01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:53,040 Speaker 3: you want to be not only successful, but significant for 1935 01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:56,400 Speaker 3: your teammates, for the people around you, for your community. Okay, 1936 01:27:56,920 --> 01:28:01,160 Speaker 3: I'm telling you the Miami being a difference in my 1937 01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:03,880 Speaker 3: life and the things that go with it, and this 1938 01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:07,200 Speaker 3: community is the reason why we left all that behind 1939 01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:10,519 Speaker 3: to come here and work this back to what it 1940 01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:13,240 Speaker 3: needs to be by going forward. And I think those 1941 01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:16,040 Speaker 3: guys and these guys are here very often, you know, 1942 01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:18,120 Speaker 3: and they don't talk about a back in the day. 1943 01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:20,280 Speaker 3: I think that's when you do that. I think you're 1944 01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:23,360 Speaker 3: it doesn't help anybody. What they do is they help 1945 01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:26,080 Speaker 3: these guys think forward. How are you going to do it? 1946 01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:29,040 Speaker 3: You know, what's your blueprint? How are you getting extra work? 1947 01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:31,400 Speaker 3: What the type of extra time are you spending around 1948 01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:34,040 Speaker 3: the coaches, watching the film, rounding up your teammates, making 1949 01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:36,640 Speaker 3: sure they're taking care of their bodies. So that's like 1950 01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:38,840 Speaker 3: the infusion right now that's going on in the building. 1951 01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:40,800 Speaker 4: Mario Christball. We appreciate it, brother, I appreciate it. 1952 01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:47,000 Speaker 1: You man, what a week? 1953 01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:50,120 Speaker 2: How about fifty plus minutes with Mario Christobal there. They 1954 01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:54,559 Speaker 2: they basically open their doors to us, more so than 1955 01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:57,040 Speaker 2: eighty percent of my family would open their doors to me. 1956 01:28:57,160 --> 01:29:00,080 Speaker 2: Right now, everybody top to bottom in the organization. She 1957 01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:02,679 Speaker 2: kind of set the standard for what we would love 1958 01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:04,800 Speaker 2: to experience on the road. And we've been on the 1959 01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:06,720 Speaker 2: road for the better part of three years now, and 1960 01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:09,680 Speaker 2: so we understand when it is and isn't done right. 1961 01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:11,200 Speaker 2: And they've done it right for us here at Miami 1962 01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:13,840 Speaker 2: CAM and the guys, especially behind the scenes, have made 1963 01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:16,400 Speaker 2: the trip well worthwhile. Food kind of still full from 1964 01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:19,519 Speaker 2: two nights ago, and entertainment's been top notch. If you've 1965 01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:22,360 Speaker 2: been following on the socials at Lake Kick, Josh, you 1966 01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:25,240 Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about. I got a crew seemingly 1967 01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:27,320 Speaker 2: of thousands here that have made this trip possible. But 1968 01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:30,040 Speaker 2: I'm telling you now. We talked about it in that 1969 01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:32,800 Speaker 2: interview and I'll stress it one more time. There's a 1970 01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:35,000 Speaker 2: lot that we say on this show about the difference 1971 01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:36,720 Speaker 2: between cannot and have not, And there are a lot 1972 01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:40,040 Speaker 2: of people out there who say things cannot happen in 1973 01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:43,000 Speaker 2: certain places, things that have been before cannot happen again. 1974 01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:46,360 Speaker 2: I don't classify Miami as that. I would look at 1975 01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:48,920 Speaker 2: Miami and say, no, they have not been for a 1976 01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:50,840 Speaker 2: couple of decades. Now I get it. We got a 1977 01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:53,519 Speaker 2: huge college audience. If you're eighteen, nineteen, twenty years old, 1978 01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:56,000 Speaker 2: you don't know what they're talking about. You may have 1979 01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:58,759 Speaker 2: seen little little flashes every now and then. They played 1980 01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:00,880 Speaker 2: Notre Dame a couple of years ago. The place was packed. 1981 01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:04,519 Speaker 2: You saw like a little firework. You haven't seen the dynamite. 1982 01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:07,800 Speaker 2: You haven't seen like that logo, striped fear in people's hearts. 1983 01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:10,040 Speaker 2: They haven't done that in your lifetime, but once upon 1984 01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:12,360 Speaker 2: a time they did. And when we look around this building, 1985 01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:14,200 Speaker 2: we've been in for the better part of seventy two hours, 1986 01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:15,360 Speaker 2: and you look at some of the folks coming in 1987 01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:17,240 Speaker 2: the big recruiting class we talked about earlier, they got 1988 01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:19,760 Speaker 2: coming in this weekend. Could be fun times ahead. I 1989 01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:21,800 Speaker 2: don't know that I would necessarily use that term to 1990 01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:24,080 Speaker 2: describe how the rest of the ACC may feel about it, 1991 01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:26,280 Speaker 2: but fun times ahead for the people here at Miami. 1992 01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:30,519 Speaker 2: We appreciate you guys being tuned in as always. You 1993 01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:33,280 Speaker 2: make us able to do these sorts of things. Appreciate 1994 01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:36,639 Speaker 2: good Greek moving, Appreciate academy sports and outdoors, and most 1995 01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:38,960 Speaker 2: of all the crew here that makes this possible that 1996 01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:41,479 Speaker 2: you don't see behind the desk. Got Gelby here, Danes here, 1997 01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:45,320 Speaker 2: Nick's here, Sam's here, Stoney's been all around the building. Gig. 1998 01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:47,839 Speaker 2: We don't never get to meet Gig, but we appreciate 1999 01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:50,519 Speaker 2: all of Mario as well. We will be back in 2000 01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:53,240 Speaker 2: Nashville Sunday night. We're gonna head to LA next week, 2001 01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:55,400 Speaker 2: so we've got a full docket. Part of what I 2002 01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:57,960 Speaker 2: guess we could call the note six tour in lieu 2003 01:30:58,000 --> 01:30:59,280 Speaker 2: of coming up with whatever. 2004 01:30:59,000 --> 01:30:59,920 Speaker 4: Our two or my opinion. 2005 01:31:00,439 --> 01:31:03,679 Speaker 2: It's so until Sunday nights, We're director Colins, producer Jesse. 2006 01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:05,680 Speaker 2: Back in Nashville, I'm Josh Pate take here, have a 2007 01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:07,519 Speaker 2: great rest of your evening. If you got us