Speaker 1: It's time now for another episode of Pats from the
Speaker 1: Past podcast, Max Smith alongside with Paul Rillo, and we
Speaker 1: were pleased to be joined by number ninety three on
Speaker 1: your scoreboard, but number one in our hearts, the great
Speaker 1: Patriot and Pro Football Hall of Famer Richard Seymour. Richard,
Speaker 1: good to see you kid.
Speaker 2: Good to be seeing, good to be saying.
Speaker 3: Last time I was here, I got a red jacket,
Speaker 3: and now come from Canton and I got the gold
Speaker 3: jacket on.
Speaker 1: Now, no disrespect, you look good at red, but that
Speaker 1: looks really really cool.
Speaker 4: Would this be a good time for me to admit that?
Speaker 4: In two thousand and one, it was my second or
Speaker 4: third year here and we took Richard Seymour. I was
Speaker 4: one of those that wanted David Terrell, is this are
Speaker 4: you serious?
Speaker 2: Is this a good time to bring that up? You
Speaker 2: wouldn't be a part of it.
Speaker 1: I was. I was.
Speaker 4: I was like, I need a wide receiver, which I
Speaker 4: loved Drew.
Speaker 2: I loved me some.
Speaker 4: So I wanted a wide receiver. I wanted a new toy.
Speaker 4: We get Richard Seymour. He's got a gold jacket sitting
Speaker 4: right next to me. I think it worked out all right,
Speaker 4: I give you credit for admitting.
Speaker 1: Twenty something years afterwards, I admitted it.
Speaker 4: He's being you know, I was riches being nice though,
Speaker 4: because he's well, I've actually told him that, like I'm
Speaker 4: sure you don't, like a long time ago. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: he and he would laugh about it. I remember at
Speaker 4: the golf tournament, you were you were busting I was
Speaker 4: with Brian Marian that you're busting up. I did. I
Speaker 4: I wanted no lie, I wanted I wanted a wide receiver.
Speaker 4: And I was like this defensive lineman from Georgie. He's
Speaker 4: really good, but like he doesn't have that many sacks,
Speaker 4: like you know, what do we? And then I was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 4: I see he was like dominating in his rookie year,
Speaker 4: playing inside, playing outside, playing all over, doing all these
Speaker 4: things for Bill worked out all right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, story, thank you so much.
Speaker 3: And again, you know, like I said, I got the
Speaker 3: red jacket, now we've got the gold jacket. And also
Speaker 3: also a fun fact, so in the inside of the jackets,
Speaker 3: we're all adult numbers, like exactly what number you were inducted?
Speaker 3: So my number is number three sixty. So it's a
Speaker 3: full circle.
Speaker 2: So how cool is yeah? How cool is you know, just.
Speaker 3: Being being drafted here and now coming back full circle,
Speaker 3: full circle just in terms of coming back and you know,
Speaker 3: being honored at halftime, it's a tremendous honor.
Speaker 2: That's great.
Speaker 1: So one of the last times I saw you, you
Speaker 1: were being run ragged, understandably. So it is induction weekend
Speaker 1: and you're a busy man. Right now that you've got
Speaker 1: the time or the aspect of time and you can
Speaker 1: look back on it, did you have a good time?
Speaker 3: Like you said, you know what, it was an extremely
Speaker 3: fun weekend. I had an opportunity to share that weekend
Speaker 3: with so many family and friends and former coaches, and
Speaker 3: it's hard to take it all in because you know,
Speaker 3: you get so many you know, congratulatories and that sort
Speaker 3: of thing. But I was able to reflect, and it
Speaker 3: took me about a week just to rest up from
Speaker 3: I mean, from parades to sign autograph signings to you know,
Speaker 3: so it was just a lot going on. But it's
Speaker 3: an opportunity because that's players you never reflect back and
Speaker 3: think about what you've done. And you know, it was
Speaker 3: just a weekend full of you know, everyone there supporting you.
Speaker 3: So and I'll say this, so I had an opportunity
Speaker 3: to thank all of my family and friends and they
Speaker 3: all know what and coaches and they know what. You know,
Speaker 3: they've meant to me and throughout my career. But tonight
Speaker 3: I have an opportunity to thank the fans who supported us,
Speaker 3: who were, you know, fill the streets of Boston for
Speaker 3: all of those parades and even coming back when we
Speaker 3: landed off of you know, long flights home. They were
Speaker 3: there supporting us when when we came back home. So
Speaker 3: it's an opportunity for me to also think them.
Speaker 2: Richard.
Speaker 1: I don't I wonder how many people said this, because
Speaker 1: this is what I what really struck me.
Speaker 2: Your speech was terrific.
Speaker 1: You could tell you spent some time writing it, rehearsing it,
Speaker 1: and it came from the heart. Like a lot of
Speaker 1: people like is Vermeial still.
Speaker 3: Going, I'm.
Speaker 1: And I don't mean no disrespect, because he's a very
Speaker 1: passionate guy and you sort of expect that out of him,
Speaker 1: you know. But I was just I was really struck
Speaker 1: in the moment that day. It was hot as blazers
Speaker 1: and everything like that, and I'm going, wow, I did
Speaker 1: did she hit it out of the park?
Speaker 2: No, thank you? So much. I got a lot of
Speaker 2: deserved Yeah, no, thank you so much. It meant a lot.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: I think I was there because I wanted to deliver
Speaker 3: because it's such a huge moment and you want to
Speaker 3: thank so many and you got six minutes to deliver
Speaker 3: you know, a lifetime of journeys and people that meant
Speaker 3: so much to you. So but then also you want
Speaker 3: to do it in a way where it's not dry
Speaker 3: and boring. So I had to It took some time
Speaker 3: to really pull it, pull it all together in terms
Speaker 3: of how I wanted to get it done. But you know,
Speaker 3: my wife and kids listened to me enough and I
Speaker 3: gotta know, no, that's not it until I, you know,
Speaker 3: finally got it together and I knew I was heading
Speaker 3: down the right path. And you know, I'm just glad
Speaker 3: that you know, it came across the right way on
Speaker 3: that Saturday and can So.
Speaker 4: What's different for you now, like you know, after being
Speaker 4: in because there was a couple of years you were
Speaker 4: right on the edge and then you know, you get
Speaker 4: you go through the door. Is life to any different?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 3: I just think now for me, you know, it's an
Speaker 3: honor where like when they say football heaven, Like it's
Speaker 3: a it's a place where you my grandkids can always
Speaker 3: go and look at what I've done in the National
Speaker 3: Football League, and you know, it's just a place of
Speaker 3: so much history and respect. And that's I think for me,
Speaker 3: that's what I respect the most. It's a it's a
Speaker 3: it's what's the right word, Like it's you know, the
Speaker 3: prestigious historic, you know, and I'm always I always like
Speaker 3: to pay respect to the people that came before me.
Speaker 3: So now you know, to stand alongside a lot of
Speaker 3: the greats, Like it's just a tremendous honor.
Speaker 1: You know, they in my opinion, my words, not yours,
Speaker 1: they did, they do run you ragged that induction weekend.
Speaker 1: They run you ragged. But do you think without having
Speaker 1: the pressure on you, because I do think there's a
Speaker 1: lot of pressure on it.
Speaker 2: You talked about it.
Speaker 1: You wanted to do a nice job. You know that
Speaker 1: meant something, got your legacy right right when they invite
Speaker 1: you next year or the do you want to go
Speaker 1: and like experience what it's like to just sort of,
Speaker 1: oh Tip, you want to play, Oh Tip, you want
Speaker 1: to play you.
Speaker 2: Know thirty six today?
Speaker 1: You know, like Tip's there he's America's guest. He's there
Speaker 1: every single year. You know.
Speaker 2: Well it's funny.
Speaker 3: So we were at some lunch and and I hadn't
Speaker 3: gave him my speech, but Tip is in and he's
Speaker 3: just talking to me, relaxed because he don't have, you know,
Speaker 3: the pressures of you know, that Saturday coming, and I'm
Speaker 3: just kind of I'm talking to him, but I'm kind
Speaker 3: of thinking about, well, no, I.
Speaker 2: Should say this versus Dad.
Speaker 3: So like I could just tell all the pressure was
Speaker 3: off of him and for me, you know, he's just
Speaker 3: got a lot, a lot of moving parts and a
Speaker 3: lot going on. But like I said, I look forward
Speaker 3: to going and enjoying everyone else's party on that Saturday
Speaker 3: and what you know. So I just think, you know, personally,
Speaker 3: you know, it's a tremendous honor, and you know, I'm
Speaker 3: glad to be have this a red and a gold jacket.
Speaker 1: The one thing that Tipp has said, sorry, Paul, just
Speaker 1: one thing. The one thing that Tipp has said. And
Speaker 1: I think this seems like it's new, and I thought
Speaker 1: that this was cool. Is that somehow, some way, that
Speaker 1: there's some unwritten rule that the guys who weren't inducted,
Speaker 1: but are there. They make it a point to go
Speaker 1: to everybody's party, right, whether they're there for five minutes
Speaker 1: or an hour. Were But like I saw Terrell Davis there,
Speaker 1: you know, I saw I saw a bunch of guys
Speaker 1: that I'd say, well, I'm surprised that they were. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a Georgia guy, so maybe a bad example, but
Speaker 1: that there were.
Speaker 3: Guysrell Owens, he came to the party.
Speaker 2: I't know.
Speaker 1: But and somebody said, no, that's their responsibility. It's their
Speaker 1: responsibility to go and welcome these guys like you know
Speaker 1: what you are in the fraternity right and welcome and
Speaker 1: it's a way of that sort of unique groups. And
Speaker 1: I thought that was really cool, Richard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it is, well, and it's not only cool
Speaker 3: for us, but even also think about your family when
Speaker 3: because EMMITTT. Smith came to our party on Friday night,
Speaker 3: Like a lot of my family grew up watching Emmitt
Speaker 3: and for him to come in he had his gold
Speaker 3: jacket on, you know, Warren Sapp, you know, Charles Woodson,
Speaker 3: like all of these guys coming in. For your family
Speaker 3: to see these guys and your granddad and or you know,
Speaker 3: whoever is there to also experience what that's like and
Speaker 3: getting the autographed and taking pictures. You know, it's just
Speaker 3: a really special weekend. And what I will say is
Speaker 3: all of the guys that are there, the other Hall
Speaker 3: of Famers, they do a really good job of welcoming
Speaker 3: in the new class and making you feel like you
Speaker 3: belong with them. And I think that's really the special
Speaker 3: cool part. And they're asking you your opinions on you know,
Speaker 3: what's next, and you haven't Mike, Mike Singletary talk to
Speaker 3: you about YadA YadA, you know. So it's just a
Speaker 3: really special, cool, unique moment, and you know, I'm excited
Speaker 3: to get the ring here tonight.
Speaker 4: Is there is there a players you know, you just
Speaker 4: ran off a whole bunch of names and you said,
Speaker 4: how you really, you know, you respected those that came
Speaker 4: before you. Is there a guy who or some players
Speaker 4: that made you sort of step back and say that's
Speaker 4: Mike Singletary. I mean, no, well I got it kind
Speaker 4: of like stops in your tracks, the way Matt and
Speaker 4: I would be just you know, with all of you guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, Well, we were sitting in like they do a
Speaker 3: luncheon where it's no media no one's in there. It's
Speaker 3: just the Hall of Famers. I think it's the Raynichki luncheon.
Speaker 3: And we're sitting there and he's a little older now,
Speaker 3: but Jim Brown came in. You know, he was in
Speaker 3: a wheelchair, but he sat at the table and even
Speaker 3: the respect that he garnered from the other Hall of
Speaker 3: Famers that were there, And for me also personally, you know,
Speaker 3: being a defensive lineman when you're there with obviously Tip,
Speaker 3: you're there with Lawrence Taylor. You know, obviously he's passing going.
Speaker 3: But you know, you think about Reggie White, what he meant,
Speaker 3: like all of these guys are just you know, phenomenal
Speaker 3: world class players and you know, just to sit and
Speaker 3: you know, share stories, you know, with a lot of
Speaker 3: those guys. I mean, it's just, you know, it's a
Speaker 3: lifetime achievement award.
Speaker 1: Honestly, we're sitting you're talking with Richard Seymour and our
Speaker 1: Pats from the Past podcast, and it seems like maybe
Speaker 1: that that aura or that euphoria, and it certainly helped
Speaker 1: by the fact that you're being honored, you know, as
Speaker 1: you're taping this tonight at halftime of the Bear's game,
Speaker 1: it's still sort of fresh. Is that fair to say
Speaker 1: that feeling it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, here's the other part. Like, I mean, we
Speaker 3: all know how hard it is to get into the
Speaker 3: Pro Football Hall of Fame. But then when you think
Speaker 3: about it, you know a lot of guys get in.
Speaker 3: There's sixty seventy, you know, some eighty year old you know,
Speaker 3: and plus. But you know, the blessing in it for
Speaker 3: me is I get to have this gold jacket and
Speaker 3: you know, absolutely forty two years old and still you know,
Speaker 3: my kids they understand what it means and you know,
Speaker 3: so I just think that's the that's the special part
Speaker 3: about it is I get to experience and live with it,
Speaker 3: and you know, it's no different than like when I
Speaker 3: was younger. You know, I had a wife and kids,
Speaker 3: but they were also able to experience my playing days.
Speaker 3: So even that they're older, like they've seen it. They've
Speaker 3: been there. They were on the field pre game or
Speaker 3: halftime or you know whatever. So it's not like I
Speaker 3: have to tell them about what their dad used to
Speaker 3: do or whatever. You know, not that you it's a
Speaker 3: big part of who you are now, but you know,
Speaker 3: for them to experience it themselves, I think you know,
Speaker 3: it's an everlasting memory.
Speaker 4: We talk about some of those being young enough to
Speaker 4: enjoy it. Who are some of the guys, you know,
Speaker 4: guess when a lot of titles won a lot of
Speaker 4: games around here, Who are some of those guys that
Speaker 4: you think should be with you or you might be
Speaker 4: knocking on that door?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: No, well, I mean, you know, obviously ties in, right,
Speaker 3: you know, but you know, obviously Randy's in, you know
Speaker 3: he's there. But you think about Brady, Obviously he's going
Speaker 3: to get in whenever he's maybe he's done, maybe not
Speaker 3: after the.
Speaker 2: Game last week, I see you get.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll join the committee and see if I can
Speaker 1: make a push.
Speaker 3: Right right, right, Well, you know, obviously Gronk he's going
Speaker 3: in as well. I think Vince deserves to get in.
Speaker 3: I think Rodney, you know, Harrison deserves to get in.
Speaker 3: You know, it's a lot of guys that you know,
Speaker 3: I play with that are you know, just phenomenal players.
Speaker 3: And here's the other part. I think you need to
Speaker 3: ask the voters who who should get in? I mean,
Speaker 3: because at the end of the day, you know, you
Speaker 3: really don't exactly know what is all of the criteria.
Speaker 1: That's what Bill says, you know, let me know what
Speaker 1: the criteria is. I'll tell you know, because I'll tell
Speaker 1: you that Rodney Harrison deserves to be in the Pro
Speaker 1: football right. No, certainly, but you tell me what the
Speaker 1: criteria is. And I think that's the difficult thing. That
Speaker 1: Paul might see one thing one way and Richard might
Speaker 1: see something another way, and that might and then there's
Speaker 1: no consensus, you know, Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, no, yeah, you know, I'm glad I don't have
Speaker 3: the job and the duty, and I'm glad I'm on
Speaker 3: the other side. But it's a lot of guys that
Speaker 3: certainly deserves it, and I'll be I'll be sitting on
Speaker 3: that stage and I'll be at their parties when they
Speaker 3: get in.
Speaker 1: You mentioned Richard. So the last time I saw you,
Speaker 1: and it's out now and so everybody had a chance
Speaker 1: to see it. You were at r kk's wedding Friday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how was that incredible incredible weekend?
Speaker 3: You know, obviously, me and my wife Tanya, we went
Speaker 3: up and uh, you know, got a chance to support
Speaker 3: mister Kraft and and his numptials, and uh, I had
Speaker 3: a lot of champagne that weekend. But you know, like
Speaker 3: I said, I just think that I'm Beyonce. The people
Speaker 3: that were there, and what's most importantly for me is,
Speaker 3: you know, I want to support someone that's happy in
Speaker 3: terms of doing what you know, they want to do
Speaker 3: in their life. And so, you know, obviously I was honored,
Speaker 3: you know, we were honored to be there that weekend.
Speaker 2: But you know, to share that experience with you know, so.
Speaker 3: Many close friends and you know a lot of damn
Speaker 3: ansen and laughter and a lot of champagne that night.
Speaker 1: For sure, the picture that made its way out into
Speaker 1: most of all of the media and everything like that,
Speaker 1: and I had a chance to see it because I
Speaker 1: was working there, Paul, I know, but to see all
Speaker 1: of the guys that were there, and whether you've got
Speaker 1: a chance to spend five minutes with Randy or five
Speaker 1: minutes with Tom or ten minutes with Gerrod, how cool
Speaker 1: was it? At least for one night, you guys were
Speaker 1: kind of all under the same roof. They could talk
Speaker 1: about the old times. That must have been awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it was a phenomenal weekend.
Speaker 3: And like I said, until your point, you know, we
Speaker 3: don't have you know, because everyone's kind of off doing
Speaker 3: what it is that they're doing.
Speaker 1: Everybody's busy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's busy.
Speaker 3: But so when we can all get together for a great,
Speaker 3: you know, phenomenal weekend in terms of supporting mister Kraft
Speaker 3: and like I said, I mean from entertainment to food
Speaker 3: and music. Rkak can throw apart.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you still, uh, you know, keep track of
Speaker 4: the game now, you know you watch you watch this
Speaker 4: team or do you watch the league in general?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I watch a lot of football, you know, because I'm
Speaker 3: I'm a fan of the sport, and but I think
Speaker 3: sometimes I I'm not super close watch Sometimes if I
Speaker 3: can't watch, I'll you know, keep up with the scores
Speaker 3: and just kind of keep up with, you know, where
Speaker 3: everyone is. But certainly I watch the games as they
Speaker 3: get closer towards the playoffs and just kind of what's
Speaker 3: going on. So you can't ask me who the left
Speaker 3: guard is or the Patriots right now.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be in the TA no.
Speaker 1: But but do you sit there and think to yourself,
Speaker 1: I don't know what I would do if I'm coming
Speaker 1: in on the quarterback. I'm not sure i'd know what
Speaker 1: to do to try to avoid a penalty. That must
Speaker 1: make you crazy when you see so many of these instances.
Speaker 3: Well, again, just just as we spoke, as long as
Speaker 3: the riffs and I guess the competition committee are clear
Speaker 3: in terms of the tensions, then we can play. Well,
Speaker 3: if we can't hit the quarterbacks, then we'll just say, hey,
Speaker 3: well guys, you know what, just if you got two
Speaker 3: hands on them and we you know, I don't know,
Speaker 3: So I just think that it needs to be clear
Speaker 3: because you can't go high, you can't go low, you
Speaker 3: can't put your weight on them. Like so, I don't know.
Speaker 4: It's like it's watching more than he says.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I mean, to Matt's point, I don't know what you
Speaker 4: guys are supposed to do with some of the calls
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago, and you know that's back
Speaker 4: to back games, one of them involving Tom but then
Speaker 4: the one on the Monday night game with Chris Jones.
Speaker 4: I don't know how you guys are supposed to do
Speaker 4: your job.
Speaker 3: Yeah no, so, well, again, like I said, just wrap
Speaker 3: them up and don't take them down, and that may
Speaker 3: be okay. Like I honestly think, you know, as long
Speaker 3: as it's fair across the board, like we understand that,
Speaker 3: you know, the competition committee is just saying, hey, you know,
Speaker 3: the quarterbacks are basically off limits to touch, and they
Speaker 3: got a red jacket in I'm in red jersey in practice,
Speaker 3: but it's sort of the same, you know, mantra going
Speaker 3: into a lot of the games too, So you know,
Speaker 3: I feel I feel for the guys.
Speaker 1: Now, last question for me as we're taping this again,
Speaker 1: it's the night that the organization is gonna allow you
Speaker 1: to be honored in front of your fans. You touched
Speaker 1: them a little bit ago. What does that mean to
Speaker 1: you To be able to, you know, say thank you
Speaker 1: and to let them show you how appreciative they are
Speaker 1: of what you did. That's got to be pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, well, personally, I'll say this, they've supported me throughout
Speaker 3: my career. Rather it's traveling to games and Super Bowls
Speaker 3: and you know, h So from that standpoint, it's an
Speaker 3: opportunity to let them know how they inspired me to
Speaker 3: want to always put the best product out on the
Speaker 3: field and you know, to you know, come back again
Speaker 3: now because I remember when I got the red jacket.
Speaker 3: You know, the crowd went wild and started yelling defense
Speaker 3: from the end zone and then you know it kind
Speaker 3: of got cru up. So you know, that was pretty special,
Speaker 3: and so tonight, you know, it'll be another opportunity where
Speaker 3: you know, I'll just.
Speaker 2: Be in the moment.
Speaker 3: I mean, I have a few words prepared, but sometimes
Speaker 3: I'll go a little bit off strip and just you know,
Speaker 3: so we'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 2: Where it goes.
Speaker 3: But but again for me, it's it's just an opportunity
Speaker 3: to say, you know, thank you for you know, inspiring
Speaker 3: me and my teammates to hang those banners.
Speaker 2: That's in the raptors now.
Speaker 1: Awesome, awesome, and Richard have a great time.
Speaker 2: No, thank you. I will greatly appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Indeed, thank you so much our guest Richard Seymour on
Speaker 1: this episode of Pats.
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