Speaker 1: It's ten two pm in Sherman, Wyoming, and you're listening
Speaker 1: to Nightcall. Hello and welcome tonightcall a Collin show for
Speaker 1: artist Topy in reality. My name is Emily Oshida. I
Speaker 1: am in Los Angeles for once, and with me on
Speaker 1: the other line, of course, are Molly Lambert and Tess Lynch. Hello. Hello,
Speaker 1: nice to be back on the same coast with you guys.
Speaker 1: Welcome back and happy belated birthday. Oh thank you. I mean,
Speaker 1: I got the best gift of all of the last
Speaker 1: hour of October one, if you know, you know, um
Speaker 1: speaking of I feel like I was thinking of this
Speaker 1: because you know, obviously I was like, oh yeah for show,
Speaker 1: and the next day like when the Trump COVID news
Speaker 1: was breaking, and I was like, man, this is like
Speaker 1: the definition of an evolving story. I don't even feel
Speaker 1: we could say anything about it because it'll probably be
Speaker 1: outdated by the time this episode comes out on Monday.
Speaker 1: So in the meantime, we're just going to take a
Speaker 1: bunch of night calls this week. Yeah, we have some
Speaker 1: really good ones coming up, So thank you to all
Speaker 1: of our listeners who called in and wrote in these
Speaker 1: past couple of weeks. But first I just wanted to
Speaker 1: talk to you guys or just give a little bit
Speaker 1: of a report from the road from my travels, because
Speaker 1: on my trip back from Iowa, I had a pyramid
Speaker 1: heavy trip. By pyramid heavy, I mean I saw two pyramids.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of pyramids for one trip, to be honest. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and all west of the Mississippi. So I was plotting
Speaker 1: out my route as I have been doing every time
Speaker 1: I hit the road again, and looking for things to
Speaker 1: see off of I a d in Wyoming, which was
Speaker 1: a big chunk of the route that I took, you know,
Speaker 1: consulting Wyoming travel guides and stuff, and and and found
Speaker 1: the Aims Monument. Should I've never heard of before. But
Speaker 1: it's a pyramid that it was built. It's it's now,
Speaker 1: you know, just south of of I eighty. But it
Speaker 1: dates back to obviously before the interstate system. But it
Speaker 1: was a stop on the Transcontinental, the Union Pacific Railroad.
Speaker 1: It was once the highest point on the Union Pacific Railroad.
Speaker 1: It's something that like eight thousand, two hundred and forty
Speaker 1: seven ft above sea level. So I just, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just it's very bizarre. This is a treeless, you know,
Speaker 1: wind swept plane in UH in Wyoming, just outside a
Speaker 1: laramie UM and there's a dang pyramid there. So I
Speaker 1: was like, I gotta see this pyramid. I got to
Speaker 1: see about this pyramid. How big is it? Um, it's
Speaker 1: about the size of a small house. I would say,
Speaker 1: a modest pyramid. Yeah, a modest pyramid. You know you
Speaker 1: can walk around it, and you could probably walk around
Speaker 1: it in less than a minute. I would say, is
Speaker 1: there a person in it? Well, um, there's two people
Speaker 1: on it. So then the Aims monument as a monument
Speaker 1: to um Oaks and Oliver Aims. By the way, you
Speaker 1: can name somebody Oaks and that's Olks o A K. E. S.
Speaker 1: That's like a very Brooklyn child name. But Oaks and
Speaker 1: Oliver Aims who were the UH This is off of
Speaker 1: the Wyoming Historical Society's website. They were financiers and politicians
Speaker 1: whose business skills were largely responsible for the completion of
Speaker 1: the trans Continental Railroad. They were also later revealed to
Speaker 1: be hucksters and fraudsters um when it came to the
Speaker 1: financing of that trans Continental railroad. UM. It was sort
Speaker 1: of interesting to read a little bit about the trans
Speaker 1: Continental railroad because at the time it was like people
Speaker 1: have compared it to like how people talk about going
Speaker 1: to Mars. Now it's just like impractical, like nobody needs that.
Speaker 1: That's massively like what a waste of money, and uh,
Speaker 1: that's just sort of funny to think about now. Uh.
Speaker 1: So they had this monument inch I'm not sure who
Speaker 1: commissioned it, if it was them, but it was designed
Speaker 1: by Henry Hobson Richardson. He's an architect around that time,
Speaker 1: and it's got their heads on it. It's got these
Speaker 1: boss relief heads and at first I thought it was
Speaker 1: like Lincoln Abraham Lincoln, which wouldn't have not made sense
Speaker 1: because it was built largely during I think during his presidency.
Speaker 1: But it's it's really weird. It's just this sort of um,
Speaker 1: it's not a direct triangle like the Egyptian Pyramids. It's
Speaker 1: sort of it's more of a zigaratte I would say.
Speaker 1: It's kind of got this flat, flat ish top and
Speaker 1: kind of two layers on. It will link to it
Speaker 1: so people can check it out or you can just
Speaker 1: google Aims monument. Uh. Yeah, it looked rad. Did you
Speaker 1: get out and like walk around? Yeah, So it's it's
Speaker 1: sort of. It's very close to the interstate, but it's
Speaker 1: all just dirt roads to get there, and they're really
Speaker 1: really rough dirt roads. So I was like dry pugging
Speaker 1: my little car through this uh dirt road to get
Speaker 1: to the pyramid and nobody's around. Also, there was a
Speaker 1: fire that day, um, and I think continues to be
Speaker 1: a fire, the Mullen fire and in Wyoming, So it
Speaker 1: was really ominous out. It looked so apocalyptic when you
Speaker 1: posted a picture, and it looked very much like hell.
Speaker 1: It was it felt like hell. It was crazy. Um.
Speaker 1: The wind was so strong that like I had to
Speaker 1: be careful, this is happening to me before and strong
Speaker 1: wind where like the car door has slammed on my
Speaker 1: leg with a high lived but it was like that
Speaker 1: it was my hat and my hat was literally blowing
Speaker 1: off of my head and I had to go chasing
Speaker 1: after it like I was in an old timey cartoon. Um.
Speaker 1: But it was Yeah, it was very dramatic. I took
Speaker 1: some pictures and I don't know if there's a body
Speaker 1: in there. There should be a body, but it was
Speaker 1: like a big churst chap like they would get out
Speaker 1: because the transcontinential railroad was so long they had to
Speaker 1: switch out engines halfway through the journey, so or probably
Speaker 1: multiple spo stops on the journey, So that was one
Speaker 1: of those switching places, and so all everybody had to
Speaker 1: get out of the train and they would switch out
Speaker 1: the engine and people would walk around and check out
Speaker 1: the pyramid like that was the activity. And then they
Speaker 1: moved the railroad like three miles to the south, and
Speaker 1: the little town that had sprung up there, Sherman Wyoming,
Speaker 1: became a ghost town. So, um, there's and I think
Speaker 1: there's just a cemetery there. That's all that's left of it. Cool,
Speaker 1: but that was not the only pyramid that you saw. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So around Salt Lake City, I transitioned from the Interstate
Speaker 1: eighty to fifteen, which goes through Las Vegas, Nevada since City,
Speaker 1: and I made a little detour just to check out
Speaker 1: the luxere Um because I had been seeing rumors that
Speaker 1: they're gonna be demolishing the lux or possibly. This is
Speaker 1: not confirmed officially, but sources say that that MGM is
Speaker 1: considering tearing down the lux sore as part of their
Speaker 1: general push to d theme their Vegas properties, which is bullshit.
Speaker 1: They don't know what they got. The themed casinos are
Speaker 1: all the best. I think this is the official night
Speaker 1: cost totally. People want a party in a pyramid. You
Speaker 1: can still put your superclubs in a pyramid. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think there's a Is there a club but lux
Speaker 1: so I don't think there is, Like there's a club
Speaker 1: in all of them. I just watched from Duck Till Dawn,
Speaker 1: which ends with a reveal that the club the titty bars,
Speaker 1: really in an Aztec pyramid at the end, and it
Speaker 1: reminded me that when I went to Tijuana last time,
Speaker 1: we saw there was like a club in the shape
Speaker 1: of an Aztec pyramid that looked amazing. We're all for pyramids,
Speaker 1: real and and fake. Why are they getting rid of
Speaker 1: the themed casinos? Why it's just a vestige of the nineties. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they went They did a family friendly phase in the
Speaker 1: nineties where they were like, we're going to be bigger
Speaker 1: than Disney World. Families are all going to come to
Speaker 1: Las Vegas, so we're gonna put all this family oriented stuff.
Speaker 1: And then in the two thousands at some point they
Speaker 1: were like, funk that we're going back to like adults
Speaker 1: who want to drink and do drugs and get laid.
Speaker 1: Why are they assuming that adults don't like themes? Also,
Speaker 1: they could still be bigger than Disney because Disney might
Speaker 1: be going down, So somebody's got to stick around for
Speaker 1: a theme. Yeah, like the ex caliber needs to stay there,
Speaker 1: like it's it's it's probably the only thing that's single
Speaker 1: handedly holding Las Vegas together, that castle. They also they
Speaker 1: just blow up casinos every once in a while. It's
Speaker 1: like a publicity stunt as much as anything else. It's like, hey,
Speaker 1: we're blowing up this thing that was falling into disrepair
Speaker 1: and we're just going to build a whole new one
Speaker 1: to generate promo. Some might say it is the biggest
Speaker 1: display of excess in Las Vegas that regularly happens, because
Speaker 1: it's just like, what reuse the building, like rehab it?
Speaker 1: Fuck no, let's tear it down and build any I've
Speaker 1: always said to that, like if they had let some
Speaker 1: of the casinos that they did blow up, like the Sands,
Speaker 1: if they had just kept them around and referbed them,
Speaker 1: they would now be like people would love like a
Speaker 1: like a rat pack casino. It's it's kind of kind
Speaker 1: of stunnying that there's not really a rat pack themed
Speaker 1: casino in Las Vegas, Like I think maybe like the Cromwell,
Speaker 1: which is a relatively new and kind of smaller casino,
Speaker 1: is maybe in that zone. But there's not like an
Speaker 1: all out like Las Vegas like fifties Las Vegas theme casino,
Speaker 1: which feels like a major oversight. That's like all that
Speaker 1: anybody wants. That's what Fremont Street is for. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean there's the d theming has been happening, particularly
Speaker 1: with the MGM properties. The Monte Carlo shut down I
Speaker 1: think sometime last year or maybe even back as far
Speaker 1: as eighteen and now it is Park MGM, So it's
Speaker 1: just like blandly fancy MGM. I mean, at least they
Speaker 1: didn't tear down the Monte Carlo like they just rebranded
Speaker 1: it because it wasn't that distinctive of a building or
Speaker 1: a structure and not like a pyramid or something. But
Speaker 1: but yeah, this rumor has been posted on vital Vegas,
Speaker 1: which is like a Las Vegas insider blog. Uh and
Speaker 1: the writer is Scott Robin and he said, um, he said,
Speaker 1: And this is all according to insiders. But the company
Speaker 1: has long felt its hands are typed by the distinctive
Speaker 1: but limiting Egyptian theme of a lux Or and UH.
Speaker 1: Company officials have discussed demolition of both Alux lux Or
Speaker 1: and ex Caliber for at least five years, but have
Speaker 1: been unable to proceed due to union contracts, and it's
Speaker 1: possible that the COVID nineteen shutdown has paved the way
Speaker 1: for what's to come for lux Or. So everybody likes
Speaker 1: lux Or here at night call. I've only been to
Speaker 1: Las Vegas one time, but if you guys like it,
Speaker 1: I do. I mean, they shoot a beam into space
Speaker 1: that you can see from space. Yeah, why would you give?
Speaker 1: And it attracts all the bats they die on the beam.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, it's I mean it's so. I mean the
Speaker 1: inside of of of lux Or is one thing. There
Speaker 1: are some things that obviously feel like I mean tacking
Speaker 1: a lovely way in a way that I love. But like,
Speaker 1: as far as thinking about what like investors and money
Speaker 1: Vegas people think, the structure of the luxe Or just
Speaker 1: feels timeless to me. It's so cool. It's just undeniably awesome.
Speaker 1: And I just don't know why you would it would
Speaker 1: get like it's it's a structure that defies logic like
Speaker 1: you have to have a special elevator to go up
Speaker 1: and down it. It should be protected as a historical,
Speaker 1: like architecturally significant building. I think, um, but they don't
Speaker 1: care about such things in since city. If you have
Speaker 1: any pyramid sightings you'd like to call in about for
Speaker 1: our new segment Pyramid Pals, Yes, leave us a night
Speaker 1: call it to four oh four six night with the
Speaker 1: details of your pyramid sighting. Also, if anyone has been
Speaker 1: to the pyramids in Egypt, I would love to hear
Speaker 1: about that. Please do call in about that. I've always
Speaker 1: wanted to go. Yeah, number one dream destination. But if
Speaker 1: we can't get to Egypt, I would also accept the
Speaker 1: Bass Pyramid in Memphis. Yeah, the best pro pro shop. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So we're going to take a quick break and when
Speaker 1: we come back, it's all night calls, all the time.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned. We are back and we're going to take
Speaker 1: a night call about the Q and on Pipeline a
Speaker 1: night call. I have a story about an old roommate
Speaker 1: who pretty much the bill for the Hippy Dippy to
Speaker 1: Q and on Pipeline in college. Um, I'd say like
Speaker 1: probably the most I guess behindsight is twenty but she
Speaker 1: was always very much like a chameleon, so she kind
Speaker 1: of adapted to whatever group of people we were around.
Speaker 1: But after college we kind of lost touch. And then
Speaker 1: like within the span of two years, she had moved
Speaker 1: from Miami to Costa Rica with a man who's like
Speaker 1: double her age, had a baby with him, was like
Speaker 1: going on yoga retreats in other countries. It was. It
Speaker 1: was just a total flip in lifestyle. She's very much
Speaker 1: like party girl. And then I follow her on Instagram
Speaker 1: and she started posting like obvious the wellness stuff like yoga,
Speaker 1: like I don't know, appreciating the earth, like a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff about like natural healing, sound healing, um and
Speaker 1: like eating raw in organic foods, everything in that arena.
Speaker 1: And then she started posting um Instagram stories from an
Speaker 1: account called red Till Babe, and I was just like,
Speaker 1: oh God, what is this And it's it's just a
Speaker 1: full on queue and on account like full of like
Speaker 1: anti back stuff, anti masks stuff and save the children,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I think it's too late for her. And
Speaker 1: I don't know. I go back and forth between like
Speaker 1: feeling bad about like me not doing anything about it,
Speaker 1: Like could I have helped her and then also like,
Speaker 1: is she well meaning? I like, I would like to
Speaker 1: think so. I don't know. It's just seems to happen
Speaker 1: so fast. It's very crazy. But I can you know,
Speaker 1: you guys as well and share links to some of
Speaker 1: the YouTube's because they're honestly a little bit. It seems scary.
Speaker 1: It's it's just because it's and it's very dangerous. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's very conflicting. It's just sad to
Speaker 1: see kind of happen before your eyes. Thanks, guys, appreciate
Speaker 1: the show so much. I've been loving it past a
Speaker 1: couple of months. Thank you, Thank you so much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this sounds pretty classic. That sounds like the what you
Speaker 1: were describing Molly, like the Instagram influencer or want to
Speaker 1: be influencer who just gets full red pilled somehow. Well,
Speaker 1: I think it's really the anti vax thing is sort
Speaker 1: of the connection. But also once you bring in save
Speaker 1: the children and everybody's like, oh, I want to save
Speaker 1: the children. Yeah. I don't know if we've used this
Speaker 1: term before, Um I've meant you, but conspiritual is one.
Speaker 1: But I weirdly I for a second listening to this,
Speaker 1: I was like, are we talking about the same person?
Speaker 1: But I think it's a different person. But I also
Speaker 1: know someone for a time I don't know, maybe like
Speaker 1: five years ago, I knew a few people who moved
Speaker 1: down moved to Costa Rica for yoga, as if that
Speaker 1: were something a lot of people were doing. But I
Speaker 1: guess it was birthplace of yoga Costa Rica. Um. But
Speaker 1: they were all kind of, um, like upper middle class
Speaker 1: people who were doing yoga as like a full time
Speaker 1: job and wanted to go a little bit off the grid.
Speaker 1: And we're really drawn to Costa Rica for that reason. Um.
Speaker 1: I think all of them moved back after a little while,
Speaker 1: but some of them also have um similar kind of
Speaker 1: like I don't think anyone I know is bold enough
Speaker 1: to go full q and on on the socials, but
Speaker 1: um definitely like the anti vax stuff is in there.
Speaker 1: But that makes me wonder if there's some weird community
Speaker 1: of yogi's in Costa Rica who are kind of doing
Speaker 1: the Q and on thing. I'm very interested in the
Speaker 1: kind of like what it is about being in that
Speaker 1: kind of community or like subscribing to a certain kind
Speaker 1: of lifestyle that just makes you more susceptible to buying
Speaker 1: into some of this stuff or just like not critical
Speaker 1: about a lot of stuff in a way. I think
Speaker 1: it's like you're being open minded in a certain way,
Speaker 1: and you know, with a lot of spirituality stuff, it's
Speaker 1: like you're opening yourself up to a certain amount of
Speaker 1: woo woo stuff. And then who's waiting to tell people
Speaker 1: that are getting into that stuff what else is going on? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do you guys think though, that you can ever reason
Speaker 1: with a person who's gone? I mean, or do you
Speaker 1: think at any point in the evolution of being a
Speaker 1: sort of like spiritual person who's dabbling in some weird
Speaker 1: ideas and then they end up going full Q and on,
Speaker 1: is there any point or any kind of st atgy
Speaker 1: you could use to step in along that progression and
Speaker 1: say like, hey, I'm your friend, don't do this. There's
Speaker 1: been a lot of guides about how to get people
Speaker 1: out of Q and on. Jamie Loftus just posting about
Speaker 1: this the other day because I think she said she
Speaker 1: had some family members who she was trying to get
Speaker 1: off the Q and on thing. Um, I do think
Speaker 1: it's possible to bring people back, is what I think.
Speaker 1: I think the thing to emphasize with a Q and
Speaker 1: On person in your life. And I don't have any
Speaker 1: that I know of right now, but I think, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think the the thing that I have a little
Speaker 1: bit of sympathy or empathy for Q and On people
Speaker 1: about it is just like, yeah, of course, like people
Speaker 1: in power are fucked up and corrupt and are doing
Speaker 1: horrible things. It's just like you're so close, you know,
Speaker 1: like just like look five inches to the right or something,
Speaker 1: and then you know, you'll you'll there is something there,
Speaker 1: like your instincts, your broad instincts are correct. It's like
Speaker 1: a lack of criticism. It's a back of um, I
Speaker 1: think doing your own researching way, although I think probably
Speaker 1: a lot of people would say, like I've done a
Speaker 1: lot of my own research, but I think to acknowledge
Speaker 1: that the overall tendency it is justified is maybe a
Speaker 1: good way to start with people, because I think to
Speaker 1: just say you're crazy, none of this stuff is true.
Speaker 1: How could you think that? I mean, it's very easy
Speaker 1: to imagine how people could think that that's the scary
Speaker 1: thing about Q and On. It's for me, I can
Speaker 1: totally see, um. God, I was like I was in Iowa.
Speaker 1: I started to believe in chim trails for five seconds, like,
Speaker 1: it's very easy for me to understand how people go
Speaker 1: down this path because I was just like I looked
Speaker 1: up and there was just like suddenly so many um
Speaker 1: trails in the sky. And I was like, we're in
Speaker 1: the middle of Iowa and no planes are flying. There
Speaker 1: should not be anything here. How am I seeing like seven?
Speaker 1: And then I was just like, Oh, I think they're
Speaker 1: just flying at altitude of particular houses here or whatever.
Speaker 1: I think it's really si about Q and on two
Speaker 1: is it provides like a universal theory for all these
Speaker 1: things where they all go together. Yeah, but it is
Speaker 1: also difficult to explain to people because a lot of
Speaker 1: it runs parallel the stuff that is real. Especially when
Speaker 1: the Epstein stuff started coming out. It was like, oh,
Speaker 1: there is a secret cabal of pedophiles that have state
Speaker 1: power and are using it to traffic children. But it's
Speaker 1: it makes you feel crazy to be like, but it's
Speaker 1: not happening out of Comet pizza. I think it's happening
Speaker 1: on a private island. That is terrifying. I think also
Speaker 1: like maybe there's a part of the Q and On
Speaker 1: mindset that's like nobody's willing to acknowledge ship this dark
Speaker 1: But I think maybe you could sell a Q and
Speaker 1: on person on the idea the actual darkest thing is
Speaker 1: that nothing is connected. Like that's the most like hopeless,
Speaker 1: desolate place to be. It's just like there is a
Speaker 1: lot of bad dark ship happening in the world, and
Speaker 1: a lot of it has nothing to do with each other.
Speaker 1: Like it's just the way that the world is, and
Speaker 1: that sucks, you know. Yeah, I mean I think with
Speaker 1: some of these things too, it's like people kind of
Speaker 1: get off on being told that nobody believes them. There's
Speaker 1: something about the like I'm the only one who has
Speaker 1: this secret information and I'm trying to tell other people,
Speaker 1: but they won't listen to me. It also just like
Speaker 1: provides people with a feeling of purpose. We've talked about
Speaker 1: how it's almost like a religious thing at this point
Speaker 1: that it doesn't matter whether it's like makes sense or not,
Speaker 1: it's just sort of like a devotion. Yeah, So if
Speaker 1: you can introduce it as like like rebellion against a
Speaker 1: church to to your queue and On friends, maybe maybe
Speaker 1: that'll hold some water. Since the entire Q and On
Speaker 1: thing is like what I've been told, you know, is
Speaker 1: all wrong, and I had no idea. My eyes are open.
Speaker 1: Now you can do that again. Within Q and ON.
Speaker 1: I personally don't think I could ever try to convince
Speaker 1: someone that they were wrong about Q and on unless
Speaker 1: they tried to convert me. Um. But that's only because anecdotally,
Speaker 1: I think that there's such I mean, it's right now,
Speaker 1: there's like a logical like people are going on their
Speaker 1: own logic over there, and so it's hard because you
Speaker 1: think that, I don't know. I would be worried that
Speaker 1: by trying to bring someone back from that it would
Speaker 1: almost work against me and make them even more sure
Speaker 1: that they were correct and dig in their heels like
Speaker 1: I almost think that kind of saying like, oh that
Speaker 1: doesn't interest me, but like you do you? I mean,
Speaker 1: is is that irresponsible to let someone fall off their
Speaker 1: own cliff in that way? Weren't you saying you explained
Speaker 1: it to your neighbor who didn't know what it was?
Speaker 1: So the other I love my neighbors so much. Um my, uh,
Speaker 1: my neighbors are older and they don't use the internet,
Speaker 1: and they like to call and talk about politics and
Speaker 1: we agree on more things. But um, Yeah. My neighbor
Speaker 1: had never heard of Q and on and so I
Speaker 1: took about twenty minutes to explain it to her, and
Speaker 1: she was she could not believe that a single person
Speaker 1: on planet Earth would believe it, and I was like,
Speaker 1: not a lot of people do uh. And then we
Speaker 1: had a good laugh. And then I got off the
Speaker 1: phone and I was like, oh god, oh no, this
Speaker 1: is so depressing. What if you indirectly red pills? Yeah? Right, no, No,
Speaker 1: she went to go do some research after that. You
Speaker 1: gotta be careful if you ever want to have me
Speaker 1: explain Q and onto you, though, you can also be
Speaker 1: sure that, like, there's a lot of total misinformation where
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not sure about this. I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: throw it out there. Um, but yeah, I mean a
Speaker 1: lot of most people, as we talked about a lot
Speaker 1: on the podcast, are not on Twitter, so they don't
Speaker 1: really know about a lot of stuff that we think
Speaker 1: everyone does. Yeah, well, I gotta watch out for those
Speaker 1: red pill babes. Um, thanks for the call. Should we
Speaker 1: take another night call? Yeah? Yeah, Um, this one is
Speaker 1: our first far as I know, nightcall from Australia. I'm
Speaker 1: very excited about this one. That's roll it high nightcall.
Speaker 1: My name is Rabbia. You see her pronouns calling you
Speaker 1: from Australia. UM. I just wanted to say about testers,
Speaker 1: I think conperiracy theory that's AQUI is wrong. I don't
Speaker 1: think you need to call that a conspiracy theory. I'd
Speaker 1: say you're probably right that it is wrong. I just
Speaker 1: I just wanted to tell you what we learned here
Speaker 1: from going through the same situation over Christmas. Often it
Speaker 1: is wrong. We just figured this out gradually because some
Speaker 1: days you'd work up and the official government hui would
Speaker 1: say equality good you look out fie. It's not. It's
Speaker 1: just all your senses will just tell you that that's wrong.
Speaker 1: And what we gradually figured out was that basically, there's
Speaker 1: never been a need for the AQUI to be sit
Speaker 1: been this important before. It's never been disseminated to as
Speaker 1: many people, it's never changed this often. But the government
Speaker 1: data sometimes would be like the twenty four hours behind
Speaker 1: or averaged out from a bunch of different stations, or
Speaker 1: the stations just weren't in there weren't very many of them. Well,
Speaker 1: they weren't working very well, like all kinds of things,
Speaker 1: and like you have different apps on your phone sourcing
Speaker 1: the information with different places and see different things, and
Speaker 1: you look outside your sense to see something else. So
Speaker 1: what we've figured out was purple air is the one
Speaker 1: you want to use, because that's like the kind of
Speaker 1: a source to the thing. A purple air a q
Speaker 1: I readings comes from um people's houses. They've got their
Speaker 1: own devices modering the air quality to update all the time.
Speaker 1: They'll tell you what's really going on. That's the only
Speaker 1: fight you want to use everywhere else it's just not
Speaker 1: worth it. I mean, yeah, really really fearful. Or you
Speaker 1: went through the exact same thing not long ago, and yeah,
Speaker 1: good luck breathing for the next couple of weeks months.
Speaker 1: That's pretty rough the thing. I guess it's a small
Speaker 1: example of what we learned generally. What we've learned from
Speaker 1: both the fives and the pandemic is that the government
Speaker 1: will always do a worse job than people. Like, always
Speaker 1: rely on the community on people on rather than anything official.
Speaker 1: You'll always get better results that way. That's what we learned. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Uh, yeah, I'm looking at purple
Speaker 1: air right now. I mean, the thing with the thing
Speaker 1: with the a q I thing is that I just
Speaker 1: always I guess I always assumed it was sort of
Speaker 1: like the temperature in a given place, like it's not
Speaker 1: it's it's it's depending on where you are, like also
Speaker 1: the environment you're around, like if you're around more trees
Speaker 1: or more asphalt, like there's going to be some variants.
Speaker 1: And I don't know that. When we talked about it,
Speaker 1: it was we had just come off of the dangerous
Speaker 1: a qui days where we were seeing things and like
Speaker 1: I think the one fifties and above and then and
Speaker 1: and some of those days, by the way, did not
Speaker 1: feel as bad as they were being reported, but out
Speaker 1: of an abundance of caution, I at least just stayed
Speaker 1: inside UM. But then after after a number of those days,
Speaker 1: the a qui went down into moderate range and there
Speaker 1: was no way that was moderate UM. And I live
Speaker 1: in a pretty like dense urban area of Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of trees, but it's also there's
Speaker 1: a lot of apartments and stuff. So you would assume
Speaker 1: that that would be like the more reliable data, I guess,
Speaker 1: but it was it seemed very unreliable. So I appreciate
Speaker 1: purple air that recommendation, but I also think it's very
Speaker 1: interesting and totally correct to point out that this pandemic
Speaker 1: has definitely taught us that community is more reliable and
Speaker 1: kind of a better resource often than government, especially when
Speaker 1: it comes to environmental things. I would say, like I've
Speaker 1: been wanting we should table this, but like I just
Speaker 1: want to I want to note this right now and
Speaker 1: maybe we can take some night calls about it. Like
Speaker 1: one of the most oppressing things I think of this
Speaker 1: year has been more or less confirming the fact that
Speaker 1: recycling doesn't exist for a large part, and that's you know,
Speaker 1: been completely something that's been pushed by state and local governments.
Speaker 1: Uh that you know, recycling is the way that you
Speaker 1: do your part. And I think that I think that
Speaker 1: there are certain things that you know that are like
Speaker 1: I don't Again, we just talked about Q and on.
Speaker 1: I don't want to go full into like don't trust
Speaker 1: anything that an institution or government tells you, but I
Speaker 1: think I think right now it's very fairly safe to
Speaker 1: say that anything related to the environment and um climate
Speaker 1: change and all of that is uh suspicious at best.
Speaker 1: It also just does make one feel like you have
Speaker 1: to run around being like Q and on is fake,
Speaker 1: so is recycling. But that was a big story. It
Speaker 1: was buried because there's so many other stories. But yeah,
Speaker 1: plastic recycling, single use plastic recycling with basically invented by
Speaker 1: oil companies, as was the term carbon footprint was made
Speaker 1: up by oil companies. Yeah, to try and take the
Speaker 1: blame off the fact that it's the oil companies who
Speaker 1: need to reduce their carbon footprint, not individuals quite so much. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm really excited that we are building solidarity with Australia
Speaker 1: because they were through it. That was Yeah, was that last?
Speaker 1: Was that end that those fires were happening in Australia.
Speaker 1: There's just a lot of similarity between Australia and California.
Speaker 1: I think Australia is like England's California. It's like a
Speaker 1: prison planet where they sent all the convicts and also
Speaker 1: and it has been huge problems with racism and a
Speaker 1: beach culture and fires. So I really feel like that
Speaker 1: community what you were talking about, could be you know,
Speaker 1: sharing information across international lines about you know, helping each
Speaker 1: other through something that clearly the government is not equipped
Speaker 1: to help people with its good And I agree with
Speaker 1: the caller that sometimes you just have to listen to
Speaker 1: your your nose, as they might say, when you go
Speaker 1: outside and smell smoke, even if the aqu i says
Speaker 1: it's okay if you smell smoke, trust your instinct. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean again, I was in Laramie when this fire
Speaker 1: that had been about acres jumped to thirty acres um
Speaker 1: maybe forty miles away from where it was. The entire sun,
Speaker 1: like the entire sky got browned out. Um, couldn't even
Speaker 1: it wasn't even the red sun anymore at that point.
Speaker 1: It was just dark, and uh, everything smelled like fire,
Speaker 1: you know, classic fire stuff. And my, uh my weather
Speaker 1: app said that the air quality was good. I think
Speaker 1: it was something like at a thirty or forty on there, so,
Speaker 1: you know, I I figured that was also because they
Speaker 1: probably didn't have as many monitors in Wyoming maybe as
Speaker 1: they do in Los Angeles, but I don't know, Um,
Speaker 1: but that felt fairly obvious that the air was full
Speaker 1: of smoke. I have definitely been using purple air because,
Speaker 1: like the Collars said, it has a lot of local sensors.
Speaker 1: All though again I've started to become totally paranoid that
Speaker 1: none of it's real because um, sometimes it still feels
Speaker 1: like it'll be nicer or less nice outside than the number. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: shall we take a night email? Uh? Perhaps this one
Speaker 1: from Joe Let's do it high night Call. I recently
Speaker 1: came across the futile payphone project with tie ins too
Speaker 1: the Willamette Dream Project. This seems like a harmless public
Speaker 1: art project, but it is extremely creepy. I have attached
Speaker 1: a link to a Reddit post about the project. The
Speaker 1: original poster has a video of him using one of
Speaker 1: pay phones and recording to hear what happens when you
Speaker 1: pick up one of the phones. The phone is free
Speaker 1: and offers options to do things such as press too
Speaker 1: to apologize, whatever the heck that means. The phones offer
Speaker 1: an option to record yourself telling your dreams for something
Speaker 1: called the Willamette Dream Project, which this guy seems to
Speaker 1: think could be MK ultra adjacent. Like I said, who
Speaker 1: knows if this is just a weird art project or
Speaker 1: something more sinister, but it reeks of night call. I
Speaker 1: figured this could be a cool discussion. Would even be
Speaker 1: willing to visit the one in Detroit and record my
Speaker 1: own experience for you guys. Just let me know. I'm
Speaker 1: in Ohio. I asked Joe if Joe felt like it
Speaker 1: when they please go to the Detroit phone. But it's
Speaker 1: it's very strange. The link to the Reddit post that
Speaker 1: Joe attached was there are these flyers. Uh, this one
Speaker 1: was found in Kingston, Ontario. I believe. Um, there's a
Speaker 1: cicada and the bottom right, which the poster thought maybe
Speaker 1: a link to the Cicadia Cicada thirty three oh one project,
Speaker 1: which was like a kind of like weird puzzle, like
Speaker 1: an Internet puzzle from a few years ago. Um, but
Speaker 1: the flyer says, have you been having strange dreams? The
Speaker 1: Kingston Dream Survey is investigating a recent spike in bizarre,
Speaker 1: unexplainable dreams since the arrival of COVID nineteen. If you
Speaker 1: have been experiencing any unusual dream activity, you can help
Speaker 1: by reporting a summary with a phone number, um, asking
Speaker 1: for a description of the dream. And then yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a phone in Detroit. The link there's a link to
Speaker 1: a company named Futell that places free pay phones um
Speaker 1: around like lower income neighborhoods. The whole thing just seems
Speaker 1: really really suspect and like it is probably motivated by
Speaker 1: something not good. Um, there's not a lot of information. Really,
Speaker 1: do you guys really think that it's strange to ask
Speaker 1: people to share their dreams anonymously. It's not just that,
Speaker 1: though apparently the prompts are are strange. Um, and and
Speaker 1: I think putting them in like low income neighborhoods and
Speaker 1: some some people think it's like a data mining a
Speaker 1: data mining thing, but it's it's also dense. It's like
Speaker 1: one of those rabbit holes that takes forever to like
Speaker 1: get to any actual information. Um, there's like a lot
Speaker 1: of videos in this reddit, uh, posts that will we
Speaker 1: will link to in our show notes. Yeah. There. It's
Speaker 1: as someone says, it's to do with the September fifth cult,
Speaker 1: a reddit cult predicting something bad would happen on September five,
Speaker 1: which is posted like a month ago. Obviously, I'm sure
Speaker 1: many bad things happened on September. Many bad things happen
Speaker 1: every day now. Yeah. Yeah, we have money down on
Speaker 1: like every corner of the roulette wheel as far as
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I've been saying you could do a we
Speaker 1: didn't start the fire for just every single day. Um.
Speaker 1: There's also a link to something called the Church of
Speaker 1: Robotron by the way, in this this, this whole this
Speaker 1: was a hot tip and very weird. If you guys,
Speaker 1: if any of our listeners have any information about these
Speaker 1: weird phones, please let us know. Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: think at this point any payphone is going to seem
Speaker 1: a little mysterious because there just aren't that many left
Speaker 1: of them. Yeah. Um, yeah, anytime you see a payphone
Speaker 1: in the wild and it's functional, it feels a little bit.
Speaker 1: It feels a little wild. I mean, it looks like
Speaker 1: these are built out of existing um like a T
Speaker 1: and T or or Bell telephone booths, um, the futile ones.
Speaker 1: They're those doctor who things. They take you to a tartist.
Speaker 1: We don't have the full like booth though in the States.
Speaker 1: For the most part, I feel like your legs, Yeah,
Speaker 1: your your legs get left behind. Um. It's very hard
Speaker 1: to change into your superhero costume, it is, unless it's
Speaker 1: just changing shirts. Um. The site I'm on, the futile site,
Speaker 1: which is a futile dot net um. And also if
Speaker 1: anybody I have a suspicion that somebody who works on
Speaker 1: this listens to night call, this just is like a
Speaker 1: little vibe that I have. Really, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It feels very nightcall. UM. At Futile, we believe in
Speaker 1: the preservation of public telephone hardware as a means of
Speaker 1: providing access to the Agora for everyone, and towards that goal,
Speaker 1: we are privileged to provide free telephone calls, voicemail, and
Speaker 1: telephone mediated services. All services, including telephony and human interaction
Speaker 1: are free from any Futile telephone. The thing that makes
Speaker 1: me just think this is an art project is if
Speaker 1: you really want to do some data mining, like Google
Speaker 1: is doing this and in a way that people would
Speaker 1: actually use it at you know, at scale. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: we use it for our night calls. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: for all we know, Google is using the uh conspiracies
Speaker 1: and and and otherwise strange stories that people are sending
Speaker 1: to us on the nightcall voicemail and uh, I don't
Speaker 1: know mkal trainin it. I have no idea like that's
Speaker 1: more likely to This just feels so small and niche
Speaker 1: that I'm like, what are they actually How many people
Speaker 1: are actually using these things every day? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'd like to recommend an Instagram account that it's not
Speaker 1: related to futel, but is on a similar note, called
Speaker 1: the call center on Instagram. It's the Underscore Call Underscore Center,
Speaker 1: which is I believe in art project based around the
Speaker 1: idea that there's like a phone that they want you
Speaker 1: to call and that they're listening to your calls. Everybody
Speaker 1: should check it out. It's sort of like an art
Speaker 1: project about this things like this conspiracy. I don't think
Speaker 1: it is itself an actual conspiracy, but it's incredibly nightcall
Speaker 1: and I'm a big fan of the call center. Nice
Speaker 1: call center, Come on, night call. I'm going to call
Speaker 1: this number. I I just the the one the Kingston
Speaker 1: from the Yeah I want to call. I'm very interested
Speaker 1: because I think, like, again, this is another thing going
Speaker 1: back to the Q and on thing, like a lot
Speaker 1: of things that are art can be interpreted as being
Speaker 1: satanic or you know, c I a adjacent or something
Speaker 1: with the right lens, Like, I can totally imagine a
Speaker 1: conceptual artist leaving having setting up a voicemail with you know,
Speaker 1: weird or impressionistic prompts about people's dreams, and I think
Speaker 1: that could actually be really interesting. Like that sounds like
Speaker 1: something I would do maybe if I had a lot
Speaker 1: of spare time and I was a conceptual artist. Like,
Speaker 1: that's the kind of thing I'm interested in. Oh totally.
Speaker 1: I mean I don't actually, I don't think it's I
Speaker 1: I'm skeptical as to whether or not it's data mining.
Speaker 1: But if you read through the whole Reddit threat, there
Speaker 1: mentions of like calling border patrol and stuff that just
Speaker 1: seems like if it is a conceptual art piece, maybe
Speaker 1: it's like it doesn't have the best intentions. They called
Speaker 1: border ptrol. Who calls border patrol? I think it's like,
Speaker 1: I'm not I just closed the tubs, so hold on here.
Speaker 1: So part way down the Reddit threat, someone said that
Speaker 1: they left this comment on the one of the videos
Speaker 1: that's exploring what this is um when we called the
Speaker 1: fu telephone service thing, they mentioned the Church of Robotron
Speaker 1: and gave options for different sermons. There was also an
Speaker 1: option called hold the phone and eventually takes you to
Speaker 1: someone saying choose your adventure and this weird very loud
Speaker 1: and this weird music, very loud, with someone saying something
Speaker 1: in the background with a series of numbers that we
Speaker 1: can't hear. I also watched a video of someone calling
Speaker 1: from a futile phone booth with an option for concentration camps.
Speaker 1: And when he pressed for that, it called the U
Speaker 1: S Border Patrol. There are new dream survey fires in
Speaker 1: Ontario with a little cicada symbol at the bottom right corner.
Speaker 1: There are now few telephone booths popping up in Detroit
Speaker 1: as well. I mean that's maybe a good Maybe it's
Speaker 1: breaking border patrol. They're listing border patrol as concentration camps,
Speaker 1: which is true, so I don't it feels it is,
Speaker 1: but you wonder, like, I don't know, I want to
Speaker 1: believe that it's a good thing, because, like we said,
Speaker 1: it sounds very niccall, but I'm also so used to
Speaker 1: everything this year being a bad thing that I immediately
Speaker 1: jumped to the conclusion that it's somehow nefarious. I think
Speaker 1: you get into a little bit. You can get into
Speaker 1: some dicey territory, as we've explored with you know, some
Speaker 1: of our internet eric cults and cult adjacent things that
Speaker 1: if you start to imitate or go meta and uh,
Speaker 1: conspiracy stuff like you're kind of cause plane being a
Speaker 1: part of a conspiracy or a cult or something like that,
Speaker 1: but not like you know, kind of a little disingenuously.
Speaker 1: I think you can run into some dicey territory. But well,
Speaker 1: it's funny. It's funny when it overlaps with like performance art.
Speaker 1: That is the strangest. A friend of ours worked on
Speaker 1: a Marina Bramovich thing that was like a commercial for
Speaker 1: Microsoft or something that when they put it up online,
Speaker 1: it got so many Q and on comments. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: I was talking about with the Q and on thing,
Speaker 1: it's just like any considered satanic or whatever. But then
Speaker 1: also like Microsoft took it down because they were like,
Speaker 1: we don't want our brand associated with like satanism and pedophilia,
Speaker 1: and that's all the comments are now. Marina Bramovic, who
Speaker 1: know that she would be the patrons state satanism and pedophilia.
Speaker 1: She's not in you know, she's not like into it
Speaker 1: though she's I know, but they like, you know, there
Speaker 1: were parties or whatever where she was pieces. You know.
Speaker 1: I just feel like other artists would be like, yes,
Speaker 1: that's right, I am like the high Priest of Satan
Speaker 1: or whatever. She seems confused by the fact that people
Speaker 1: are reading that into her work, even though as an artist,
Speaker 1: I really can't control what people read into your work.
Speaker 1: You shall we take another night email? Hell yeah, this
Speaker 1: one is from Kevin we'll read this. Kevin writes, Hello,
Speaker 1: night call. It's eighty three pm in Pittsburgh, and I'm
Speaker 1: a longtime listener, first time right or in her So
Speaker 1: this study any links out to it just came out
Speaker 1: saying that if we were ever able to time travel,
Speaker 1: we could go into the past without creating a paradox.
Speaker 1: For example, if you wanted to stop COVID from happening,
Speaker 1: you could go back in time and make it so
Speaker 1: the first person doesn't get it. But no matter what
Speaker 1: you do, somebody else would eventually get COVID, and then
Speaker 1: things from there would develop basically exactly the same. So
Speaker 1: so you could minimally changed the past, but not in
Speaker 1: a significant way. And because of that, you couldn't destroy
Speaker 1: the reason you travel back in time in the first place. Therefore,
Speaker 1: no paradox makes sense. And then I thought of the
Speaker 1: Mandela effect. The Mandela effect is the wacky internet theory
Speaker 1: that says, sometimes when there are tiny differences in culture,
Speaker 1: it isn't that you are remembering these events wrong. It's
Speaker 1: that somehow the timeline has been slightly disrupted. Examples of
Speaker 1: this include the Barren Stain Bernstein Bears, the two different
Speaker 1: spellings of Barrenstein Bears and that movie where Shack played
Speaker 1: a wrapping Genie. But people say it wasn't Shack, it
Speaker 1: was the actor comedian Sindbad playing the wrapping genie. Full disclosure,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if the genie wraps. I just assumed
Speaker 1: he did Shazam. I don't think. I don't remember anyway.
Speaker 1: A lot of people say this is crazy. It isn't
Speaker 1: the reality changing, but an example of faulty memories. They're
Speaker 1: probably right. However, what if this theory that says if
Speaker 1: time travel happens, it can't cause significant changes, but it
Speaker 1: can cause tiny, inconsequential ones is true. It's a real thinker, Kevin,
Speaker 1: thank you. You know you know the Mandela effect is
Speaker 1: is based on this this sort of thing that a
Speaker 1: bunch of people remembered that Nelson Mandela died at a
Speaker 1: time that he did not. I believe that's what it is.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's name for this false memory that
Speaker 1: apparently a lot of people have that he died. I
Speaker 1: had this recently about the actor Christopher Lloyd because I
Speaker 1: was watching both Adams Family movies for the second time
Speaker 1: this year. Because time is right, and I mentioned like
Speaker 1: oh man, it was It's so sad that he died
Speaker 1: to whoever I was with, and they were like, really,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that he died, and then I checked
Speaker 1: it and he didn't die. And I completely remember Christopher
Speaker 1: Lloyd died when I was a kid. I don't know
Speaker 1: if anybody shares this memory, we might have another Mandela
Speaker 1: effect on our hands. I do not remember Christopher Lloyd dying.
Speaker 1: That's I think that one belongs only just in my
Speaker 1: little brain. I think some of these things too, are
Speaker 1: like maybe really mers that pre date before you could
Speaker 1: fact check rumors. So for me, I'm like, I remember
Speaker 1: someone telling me that, like somebody from Saved by the
Speaker 1: Bell had died in a horrible car crash, and that
Speaker 1: was like a rumor in seventh grade or something that
Speaker 1: you couldn't disprove at the time. And weird things could
Speaker 1: go viral like that organically because they were just like school,
Speaker 1: you know, play playground Q and on. Yeah, they used
Speaker 1: to just be urban, urban legends. Yeah. The Barrenstein Bears
Speaker 1: one seems pretty obvious to me, which is that anytime
Speaker 1: there's someone with a name that is spelled like, you know,
Speaker 1: differently than you'd expect, especially if you're a kid and
Speaker 1: you hear your parents pronouncing it, you're probably like looking
Speaker 1: at the front of the book and like mentally kind
Speaker 1: of editing it and like correcting it. I know that
Speaker 1: I have relatives whose names are often misspelled, like Almos,
Speaker 1: always misspelled to the point where they have other family
Speaker 1: members with different last names, or you know, friends that
Speaker 1: they've had forever and they still address them with the
Speaker 1: wrong spelling of their name, which drives me nuts. But
Speaker 1: I guess that's just one of those things. But the
Speaker 1: the like wrapping Genie or non wrapping Genie one, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: was that, Like Emily said, are you talking about Shazam?
Speaker 1: Which was it? Who was it in Shazam? Was it
Speaker 1: Shack or Sinbad? I think it was. I mean I
Speaker 1: think also some of these things just show the power
Speaker 1: of group think, which is that if somebody is like, hey,
Speaker 1: does anybody remember this thing, a lot of people will
Speaker 1: be like, oh, yeah, I remember that. Kazam, oh Kausam, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I er I was like a recent film, okay, so
Speaker 1: because am so that was referring to the movie because
Speaker 1: am and them. Yeah it's Shack. But but if you
Speaker 1: enter Kazam Sinbad, are you going to get a ton
Speaker 1: of hits there? M M, I don't know. Yeah. Some
Speaker 1: of some of these things too, it's like they're so minor,
Speaker 1: you know, they're not like some people think World War
Speaker 1: two ended and other people don't or something. It's not
Speaker 1: like true alternate history. It's like these very small weird things.
Speaker 1: For me. The Berenstein Bears one, which is always used
Speaker 1: as like the example. I was like, well, I think
Speaker 1: I just kind of made it like a Jewish last name,
Speaker 1: and then it turns out it's not. It's like made
Speaker 1: by Christians, right, So that seems very easy to explain
Speaker 1: to me. Okay, wait, guys, I found the movie. Spoiler alert,
Speaker 1: the Shazam movie never existed. Sinbad Chasm and it's Chaseam
Speaker 1: with two a's and the second it says. In a
Speaker 1: May interview, actor and sports star Shaquille O'Neal stated that
Speaker 1: if kids wanted to see him in Sinbad team up
Speaker 1: as Kazam and Shazam in an Avenger's style genie movie,
Speaker 1: he'd put on that hilarious nineties costume and do it.
Speaker 1: There's one problem, though, the so called Sinbad genie movie
Speaker 1: doesn't exist. Yeah, I'm super into believing, uh this theory
Speaker 1: that these minor differences happen because of time travel, mostly
Speaker 1: just because right now I would love to time travel.
Speaker 1: I just watched twelve Monkeys last night, so very in
Speaker 1: that mindset. Isn't this also like the plot of that
Speaker 1: movie yesterday where the Beatles didn't exist so you have
Speaker 1: to invent them? Yeah? I mean twelve Monkeys did make
Speaker 1: me think about it a lot, kind of logically about
Speaker 1: if you did go back to stay January until everybody
Speaker 1: there was about to be a plague, who would listen
Speaker 1: to you? Well, I've been exploring this at length. I
Speaker 1: won't bore you guys with all of the details, but
Speaker 1: I will bore you with some, which is um that
Speaker 1: if you were going to time travel back to January,
Speaker 1: you would have to have of a list of early examples.
Speaker 1: You would have to have predictions that you could prove
Speaker 1: yourself with that happened in January. So you'd have to
Speaker 1: do your homework before you time traveled. Because if you
Speaker 1: were going to time travel to say, like January second
Speaker 1: or something, you would have to have predictions ready to
Speaker 1: go for like the second, the third, the fourth and
Speaker 1: the fifth, so people would believe you. And only at
Speaker 1: that point could you introduce something like predicting coronavirus. And
Speaker 1: actually you'd have to go back earlier than January, probably
Speaker 1: because coronavirus, some say, might have already been circulating even
Speaker 1: in l A and like December Jina ran out of
Speaker 1: the bag already. I mean, it's also like, you know,
Speaker 1: we have some examples of non time traveling instances of this,
Speaker 1: like the Bob would word thing, you know, in his
Speaker 1: interview with Trump uh where he basically acknowledged that they
Speaker 1: knew that it was dangerous and he just didn't want
Speaker 1: to cause a panic or whatever. And it's just like
Speaker 1: that's about as close as you could get to like
Speaker 1: time traveling and changing the app come of it. But
Speaker 1: it's like the wrong people are doing the right And
Speaker 1: also maybe there's nothing that can be like what would
Speaker 1: you do? Would you just like barge into I don't
Speaker 1: know the C d C and and I don't know
Speaker 1: what would you You'd have to use some like very
Speaker 1: dire threats in order to get things through. I feel
Speaker 1: like you would go find the original pangul in yeah,
Speaker 1: and release it into the wild instead make sure that
Speaker 1: it doesn't talk to any humans. Was it a pangulin
Speaker 1: allegedly allegedly a penguin. People at first thought it was
Speaker 1: a bat, and I follow a lot of that enthusiasts
Speaker 1: who were like, don't blame bass. Everyone always blames the bat.
Speaker 1: It's not the bath's fault. Even if a zoonotic disease
Speaker 1: jumps to humans, it's not because the bats are like
Speaker 1: trying to kill all humans. It's because of climate change
Speaker 1: and humans going into parts of the environment that they
Speaker 1: shouldn't have and you know, burning down forests and stuff.
Speaker 1: If it's always humans, which Twelve Monkeys also gets into
Speaker 1: a lot some good some good uh on point stuff
Speaker 1: in Twelve Monkeys, I haven't seen that in Second Man,
Speaker 1: Oh watch it. It just feels it feels like now,
Speaker 1: but it does also have that. I mean, I feel
Speaker 1: like there was that time period when the virus was
Speaker 1: in other countries but it hadn't made it to America yet,
Speaker 1: where I was just like sitting in my car every
Speaker 1: day feeling insane, being like what can I do? You
Speaker 1: know before it gets here. It reminds me of when
Speaker 1: you know that you're getting sick, which if you can't
Speaker 1: tell I am right now, and you're just like, don't
Speaker 1: get sick, don't get sick, and you're trying to do
Speaker 1: everything you possibly can to not get sick, like you're
Speaker 1: taking all the like you know, weird supplements, yeah, massaging
Speaker 1: your notes, but you know what's going to happen. And
Speaker 1: I think that was how we all felt here when
Speaker 1: we were like, Okay, it's spreading everywhere. It's like obviously
Speaker 1: going to happen to us soon too, so we just
Speaker 1: have to like not have that happen. Yeah. A friend
Speaker 1: of mine invented a time travel theory that I really liked.
Speaker 1: They may have been on drugs when they invented it,
Speaker 1: but it involved the idea that jokes are a way
Speaker 1: of time traveling, because when you tell a joke, it's like,
Speaker 1: let's say you tell a knock knock joke and you're like,
Speaker 1: knock knock, and the person's like, who's there. It's because
Speaker 1: they jump ahead to what they think the punchline is
Speaker 1: going to be. They're jumping into the future, and then
Speaker 1: when it's something different than they thought. Time splits you
Speaker 1: mean the anticipation, you mean, it's just like a quantum
Speaker 1: type split. Okay, well, the same can be said for
Speaker 1: anything like your friend is definitely on drugs, but we're
Speaker 1: causing rifts in the and we're causing quantum rifts. Right
Speaker 1: now as we speak, a butterfly slap its wings. It
Speaker 1: just really makes you think about what quantum riff could
Speaker 1: you cause that would make things go a better way.
Speaker 1: But things like twelve monkeys. In general, time travel theory
Speaker 1: tends to say that you can't change anything. Whatever you
Speaker 1: change is gonna be counter changed in some way, or
Speaker 1: is going to be what was meant to happen all along. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're sort of. It's it's crazy because time travel, you
Speaker 1: would think would be more about being able to fix
Speaker 1: things and change things. But I think within most time
Speaker 1: travel theories there's sort of an acceptance that certain things
Speaker 1: are fixed that you can't change. That's what only what
Speaker 1: the big anti time travel lobby wants you to think.
Speaker 1: Let's expose them. Here it time and on. We think
Speaker 1: time is whatever you wanted time, especially because because what
Speaker 1: day is it? Ever? Now it's much um? Should we
Speaker 1: take one more night call before we wrap up? Or
Speaker 1: night email so to speak? Sure, this is a night
Speaker 1: call from Emma high night call. I was catching up
Speaker 1: on older episodes, and your discussion of whether or not
Speaker 1: airbnbs were haunted reminded me of something that happened to
Speaker 1: me last winter. At the end of last year, my
Speaker 1: extended family rented an Airbnb cabin for the weekend. It
Speaker 1: wasn't totally remote, not a cabin in the woods type
Speaker 1: of situation, but definitely not in a densely populated area.
Speaker 1: The cabin itself was mostly decorated in the personality less
Speaker 1: Airbnb style subway tile kitchen west Elmie furniture, but we
Speaker 1: started to notice one odd thing. The place was absolutely
Speaker 1: filled with evil eye pendants and things like these, with
Speaker 1: an example that will put in the show notes. They
Speaker 1: were literally everywhere, on top of every door frame or archway,
Speaker 1: multiple in every room, about three by the front and
Speaker 1: back doors. It seemed totally out of place from the
Speaker 1: rest of the design, unless these are some kind of
Speaker 1: hip decoration trend that I'm unaware of. Already a little spooky,
Speaker 1: but the truly spooky thing happened on the last night
Speaker 1: we were there. I'm woken up by a dog barking
Speaker 1: in the distance. We hadn't heard any neighbors dogs the
Speaker 1: past few days then I hear a soft humming outside,
Speaker 1: not any recognizable tune. It sounded like someone is circling
Speaker 1: the house while humming. It pauses for a little and
Speaker 1: I hear it again. This time it sounds like it's
Speaker 1: coming from the living room and hallways. Now I know
Speaker 1: one of my family members has insomnia, so I peek
Speaker 1: outside my door to see if they were awake and
Speaker 1: being accidentally incredibly creepy. But when I investigate the living room,
Speaker 1: no one's there. I don't hear the humming again. After that,
Speaker 1: I asked about it the next day and no one
Speaker 1: else heard anything. We leave the next day as planned,
Speaker 1: and nothing else like this has happened to me since
Speaker 1: I don't even really believe in ghosts, just the natural
Speaker 1: creepiness of a chaotic universe. But who knows, thought you
Speaker 1: guys might enjoy the story. This is so scary. Um,
Speaker 1: this is really creepy to me. I get goose bumps already.
Speaker 1: This emale um mostly the humming thing, but also I
Speaker 1: think evil evil eye pendants. Give me give me the willies. Um. Well,
Speaker 1: as we have discussed, airbnbs should give you the willies
Speaker 1: because they are haunted by the people they've displaced. Yes, um,
Speaker 1: although I think evil eyes are meant to to repel.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, but I think I don't know. There's
Speaker 1: something about them being hung which tells me that there
Speaker 1: was a problem. There's a reason they've been hung. And
Speaker 1: like my guests after this story would be that like
Speaker 1: whatever this humming thing was and this presence, this person
Speaker 1: felt the owner of the airbnb hung these pendants because
Speaker 1: of it. And so it's like, even though the pendants
Speaker 1: themselves are meant to ward it off, it just tells
Speaker 1: me like there's an issue here, like there's a totally
Speaker 1: There's also nothing creepier than tuneless humming gives me the creeps.
Speaker 1: I just rewatched Midsummer the other day. Um, and I
Speaker 1: was talking with my husband about Hereditary, which we both
Speaker 1: agreed we thought was scarier. And the reason that we
Speaker 1: thought it was scarier was because of the clicking, the
Speaker 1: tongue clicking. Hereditary is terrifying. Midsummer is scary, but it's
Speaker 1: more funny. It's funnier. But also, like, I really like
Speaker 1: both the devices in both movies of the clicking and
Speaker 1: the the weird breath thing in Midsummer being used to
Speaker 1: convey like something really off putting or unsettling. And I
Speaker 1: think that humming is like potentially even more unsettling than
Speaker 1: those things. The humming is there's something of like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like Molly said, the tuneless tunelessness, where it's like something
Speaker 1: trying to imitate a person, because it's a human sound
Speaker 1: that could exist pre speech. You know, it's yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: it's an human pre speech. Sweet peach oh solved it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the sound of a of a person
Speaker 1: trying to come out of the wavelengths a human voice.
Speaker 1: Do you guys think whistling or humming is scarier? I
Speaker 1: think tuneless humming is the scarier. I mean, I'd be
Speaker 1: scared if I was somewhere dustolate and I heard some whistling.
Speaker 1: I think the humming is scarier. When I think of humming,
Speaker 1: I also think of like um, you know, like keenan uh,
Speaker 1: which is always like you know, that's such a like
Speaker 1: ancient sort of morning practice, and it just feels so
Speaker 1: like you're accessing these roots of like the very beginning
Speaker 1: of humanity that it's always kind of like where do
Speaker 1: we come from? I don't know. Yeah, I think there's that,
Speaker 1: and there's also it could be an electronic hum. You know,
Speaker 1: it could be something that's kind of like a synthesized
Speaker 1: human um, some noise that's kind of almost like electrical
Speaker 1: but also imitating a person. Now I've gotten the creeps.
Speaker 1: Now I've caught whatever. I fail. It's a lawnmower man.
Speaker 1: It's your lawnmower trying to become a man. Well, I
Speaker 1: am so grateful to Emma for sending us this story
Speaker 1: just because we had to kick off Spooky October somewhere
Speaker 1: and other, so uh this, you know, now I've had
Speaker 1: my first spook of the month. Thank you to all
Speaker 1: of our listeners who called in and wrote in and
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Speaker 1: this week. We love doing an all call episode. So fun.
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Speaker 1: to say potus covid, It's just it's just rolls off
Speaker 1: the ton. But yeah, that that does it for us?
Speaker 1: This does it? Does it drive you crazy? Just thinking
Speaker 1: about like what if you could just jump one month
Speaker 1: into the future and know what happens and tell everybody, Yes,
Speaker 1: it drives me crazy every day thinking of that. Yeah,
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