WEBVTT - 9021One-on-One with Michael Reilly Burke (Played Jeff Stockmann) 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:12.119 It's nine og one ong with Jenny Garth and Tory Spelling. Well, hello, sir, hi, 0:00:12.280 --> 0:00:15.440 how are you okay? Thank you for joining our little podcast. 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:17.200 Very very nice of you. 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:19.079 I listened to a couple of episodes. They're fun. 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:22.919 Oh these years later. Have you ever done the other OMG? No, 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:25.000 if there's no other OMG? Have you ever done the 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:28.040 other nine oh two to one oh podcast with like 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:31.800 the producers? Oh, well then you're fresh. 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:36.040 No, I've actually this is the first podcast I've ever 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:38.960 said I've ever said yes to. 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:44.080 Oh. I feel very honored. We had OMG, feel very honored. 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:44.879 Thank you. 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:47.600 Well, usually I get that they're like horror ones that 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:49.279 want to talk to me, and I always say that. 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:53.680 Oh god, well we will, it'll be painless, probably aciate. Well, 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:56.760 how long has it been since we saw each other 0:00:56.800 --> 0:01:01.000 in the flesh? That would be like twenty. 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:02.760 Nine years maybe really, I think. 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:07.560 So twenty nine years ago. Yeah, because you came in, 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:10.840 came swooping in. I did you played Jeff? 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:12.520 I played Jeff Stockman. 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:16.920 Yeah, yeah, in four episodes during season eight. So yes, 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:19.240 you just came out of nowhere. 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:22.240 Literally, I came out of nowhere when everyone in the 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:28.000 cast was making really bad relationship choices, and. 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:30.280 You had your eyes set on Cale. 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:34.360 Kelly, I did right away. Yeah, we worked together. 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:40.280 You were also manipulated into liking her because the Valerie 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:43.399 told you that she liked you, and she likes Valerie 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:44.479 was up to her evil ways. 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:47.760 I mean, Valerie was definitely played a part, but I 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:51.120 sort of felt like Jeff was pretty Valerie just sort 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:54.200 of facilitated the union. 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:57.760 I feel like Jeff was was pretty pretty smitten pretty early. 0:01:58.240 --> 0:01:59.760 Yeah, yeah, until he got a. 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:02.600 New I think he still was smitten, and I just 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:05.840 think he was you know Kelly. I think Kelly dogged 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:06.600 him well. 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:10.440 Kelly still loved Brandon though it was right right after 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:14.200 he cheated on her. I know everybody could see that 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:15.800 was watching that you were rebound. 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:21.360 Sorry, Oh my name was was Stockman too? Just a 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:22.280 stock boyfriend. 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:26.480 Oh that's so funny. We looked him up. This is 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:29.280 the stock image of a boyfriend. A boyfriend should be 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:33.919 A rebound boyfriend should be, right. What did did you remember? 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:35.560 Fondness of your. 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:37.280 Time on our Yeah yeah, I mean, you know, we 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:41.080 almost everything. I almost all of my Workman was with you. 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:42.440 I worked a little bit. 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:45.919 It was like a day Gang with a Gang yep, yeah, 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:46.600 but really. 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:49.320 Like ninety percent of it was with you. You were 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:53.840 super easy, super professional. I was a little nervous. I 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:56.120 was like, I think it was I mean I had 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:58.280 done stuff, but it was sort of the highest profile 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:01.520 thing I had more than one episode only. 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:03.320 Yeah, I mean I. 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:05.240 Had a I had I did it. I'd Dine a 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:10.520 series that got canceled halfway through the airing of the pilot. 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:12.919 I mean literally they almost yanked it off. 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:14.960 The air before the hour was over. 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:19.080 Fun and that done some other stuff, but no, it 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:21.040 was kind of a big job. My friends were all excited, 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:23.080 and I had gone in for the show a lot. 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:26.400 I'm probably gone into a half dozen times. 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:31.880 It must have been frustrating for actors because they there 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:35.120 wasn't the hugest talent pool back in the nineties. You know, 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:36.280 it's it's so. 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:39.160 Weird because there seemed like there wasn't a huge. 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:43.000 Talent pool and there was way less jobs, just way 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:45.880 less jobs. But I do think the by and large, 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:49.360 actors are better, not necessarily that they're they're better, but 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:51.480 there are more good actors now than. 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:54.680 They're used to be. There's a lot of a lot 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:55.280 of people out there. 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:58.800 They're you know, really good and all vuying for jobs, 0:03:58.840 --> 0:03:59.880 you know, they're all out there. 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:05.240 One Yeah, though, I do think it's I do you know, 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:09.160 I do think that the whole no longer being in 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:10.400 the rooms like we used to be. 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:13.760 I couldn't have done it. I couldn't have I. 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:17.120 Couldn't be an actor in today's day, like starting out 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:20.000 not knowing anyone, not knowing your peers, not knowing that 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:20.240 you know. 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:25.320 Yeah, that's such an isolated feeling. You never hear anything back. 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:28.320 You left to just be like, well, was I did? 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:31.400 I was I terrible? Did they even watching? I don't 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:31.800 even know? 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:34.720 Yeah, I mean I know a couple of you know, 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:36.880 young actors who don't really have a sense of how 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:41.760 good they are or what that they're actually making progress 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:45.280 because they haven't really start started booking yet. But they're 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:49.320 really good, Like I know, they're good, and and if 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:51.360 they if they had like face to face stuff they 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:52.680 have it, they might have a sense of it. 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:54.960 But right now they're just sort of floating off. 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:57.480 And how do you how do you find these people? 0:04:57.880 --> 0:04:58.000 Well? 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:02.479 I coach actors occasionally, you do, Yeah, mostly. 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:07.680 Where are you located? You're still I'm in Hollywood, Hollyweird, Okay, perfect, Hollyweird, 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:09.960 and your coach. You coach actors sometimes like. 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:15.760 For four auditions, sometimes on sometimes on set, mostly through referrals. 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:20.320 Uh, I don't do a ton of them because I'm 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:21.120 kind of expensive. 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:24.640 I like that you know your worth. 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:26.400 I don't have a ton of them, but I but 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:31.760 I keep busy with it, and I really enjoy it. 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:37.720 Michael. It's always good to know you're right. Oh, I 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:42.919 mean yeah, if you've worked with Michael, now we know 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:43.960 you're paying a lot. 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:44.680 There you go. 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:47.760 You could get someone for cheaper, just saying I'm just kidding. 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:48.200 No. 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:51.680 I recently had someone contact me and if you came 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:55.760 in and I was like, wait a minute, we know 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:58.200 each other, and she had we had played husband and 0:05:58.279 --> 0:05:59.640 wife something. 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:04.640 That's weird because you've done a mke billion roles. 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:07.120 Yeah, a lot of guests, a lot. 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:09.640 Of guest stars, a lot of stuff with Star Trek. 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:10.279 Is that right? 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:13.960 Yeah? I did. That's the Star World mm hmm. 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:18.080 Fan base is pretty intense. You get recognized from that 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:19.960 or were you in like crazy because I. 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:22.520 Was in a heavy makeup, I get I got recognized, 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:26.800 you know. Weirdly, like depending on where I am, I mean, 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:27.640 I get recognized. 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:29.640 You know, I don't know. I don't know what this is. 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:32.680 You know, I spend a time in Paris, and I 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:35.800 don't know if it's that people don't recognize me as 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:38.960 much in LA or just just starts so used to 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:40.560 seeing people that have been on TV that there they 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:41.360 don't say anything. 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:45.640 But I have more people approach me or saying I. 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:47.520 Saw you on suits, I saw you on my rest 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:51.320 place in Paris than I do in in LA. 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:57.880 That's interesting. Yeah, the French were they were very devoted fans. 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:01.080 I think in LA it's like this will happen to 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:03.880 me too, Like I'll see somebody that I'm sure as 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:07.520 an actor, like you can tell and but you just 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:12.160 can't place like what yeah, because there's so much programming now. Yeah, 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:14.160 I don't know how we're supposed to recognize anyone. 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:16.440 Yeah, And you know, like and I mean, I'm sure 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:21.320 people recognize you all the time, and like you don't. 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:23.960 Want to necessarily like they're like, how do I know you? 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:25.480 How do I know you? Like you know, like they 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:27.960 just like they're just like that's the. 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:30.280 Best part when they because I was just in France, 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:32.640 and this happened to me? How do I know you? 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:35.800 And you're literally like you're midbite or you're walking by 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:38.559 them on the street and they expect you to stand 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:41.120 there and and just I don't know what am I 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:44.480 supposed to say? I'm supposed to go through my resume 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:47.640 and see which one you think it was? Or am 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:49.840 I supposed to let you roll through? Was it this? 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:51.240 You know what I mean? 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:52.960 Yeah? Do you want me to do you want to 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:53.880 hear another one? 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:55.280 Do you want me to just tell you what it 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:55.920 probably is? 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:58.760 Probably that's and I do think probably it's the same 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:03.160 for you as me. It's like the demographic of the 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:09.080 person asking or the approaching narrows down what they've what 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:09.840 they've seen. 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:11.000 You, you know what I mean? 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:11.520 Yes? 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:14.840 Did you? Okay? So you you mentioned Melrose Place? You 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:18.120 were on Melrose Place before you were cast on nine or. 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:22.160 Like my my very it was? I think it might 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:24.440 have been my second job. 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:24.800 Ever? 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:26.360 What was your role? What'd you do? 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:29.960 I played? I don't know. I just I remember the 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:31.600 lines more than anything else. 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:32.839 What are the lines? 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:33.800 You like? 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:37.120 Hey, sorry you can't join us this weekend? Man? 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:42.000 Seeing me drinks on the veranda and shrimp cocktails or something. 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:45.600 It was just I was just a doctor, another doctor, 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:48.199 but I was like it was one scene. 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:52.240 With him and. 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:57.960 Oh god, I cant remember name the redhead who went 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:01.479 on to Desperate Housewives and all that, Marcia. 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:03.400 Marsha Cross, marsh Cross. 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:04.880 That's funny. I didn't know that you had been on 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:06.400 on that show and. 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:08.360 I did that. I actually did the pilot of the 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:12.640 remake of Melroe's Cloves pilot. They didn't. They did at 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:18.240 remake up. David Guggenheim directed it. Wait when fifteen years ago? 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:20.840 Wow, I would have thought that would have been very recent. 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:23.320 But no, yeah it did. I don't think it did. 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:24.880 I don't think it did went anywhere. 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:30.600 So you obviously met Aaron Spelling and fell into the 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:35.080 to the routine, like the mixing bowl of actors that 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:37.920 always kind of kept popping up on his shows. 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.040 I guess. So, yeah, was. 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:42.040 It weird to join our show because we were already 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:43.000 in the eighth scenes. 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:46.960 It wasn't. Yeah, it was. I mean, you know, you learn. 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:52.040 I think there's the learning curve on sets in Hollywood 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:55.520 is so fast, like you don't know what's going on, 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:58.319 and then you get you get a sense pretty quickly 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:01.440 of like what you can ask for and what you 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:03.120 can ask for and you know what I mean, like 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:07.720 and the pecking order on sets and blah blah blah 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:10.679 and yeah. So so you know, guest stars come and go. 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:13.480 You kind of you do your job, You sort of 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:15.920 chat with the director a little bit with the lead 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:18.400 actors that they want to, you know, But when you 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:20.920 come in for a few episodes, it's a little different 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:23.600 because you're for a minute, a part of the group, 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:24.640 you know what I mean. 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:27.360 And it was really fun. 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:31.760 I remember watching and being like, wait, Kelly's taking him 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:34.320 to the birthday party or whatever it was. I didn't 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:37.240 remember anybody, he doesn't know the rest of the gang, 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:39.520 and she's not even dating him, and now she's like 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:41.840 flaunting him in front of Brandon. This is so weird. 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:46.080 There was a lot, I mean, I mean, I went 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:47.880 back and watched something again too, and I had forgotten 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:48.720 how often we kissed. 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:50.480 I thought, I thought maybe we just kissed once. 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:53.680 But I was pleasantly surprised that we kissed most local 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:56.520 times and in front of Brandon one time. 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:59.880 Of Brandon, Yeah you got some knoheys. 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:03.080 Yeah, I mean we were we It was. 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:05.679 Did you know that you were gonna that was your 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:07.360 character and that you were going to have this little 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:09.480 tryst with Kelly? That was the plan. 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:11.800 I knew that I was not going to be around 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:12.559 for very long. 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:15.680 You were just a little. 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:18.400 Yeah. 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:21.360 They always have to have that that one. Like they 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:24.400 the couple that everyone wants together, broke up and then 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:26.880 they have to go their separate ways to remember how 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:28.960 much they love each other, and then they come back together. 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:33.920 What I gotta say, like watching the episodes, he never 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:39.520 actually apologizes to Kelly, right, you never really apologize. 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:42.400 He's woe is me and and and but if you 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:45.280 really listen to it, he's sort of like I made 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:47.240 a mistake. Yeah, I made a mistake. You know. 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:49.280 It's like he never like he never like falls on 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:53.920 his sword, and which was surprising. 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:56.960 I mean, yeah, what would you have liked him to do? 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:01.199 Like what if you wrote it? If you would didn't wow. 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:03.800 At least at the very end, go, look, I am 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:05.680 I am sorry. 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:08.760 He never I think maybe he said sorry, maybe maybe 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:10.480 maybe it was off camera. No, I'm just kidding. 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:14.520 Uh. There was a lot of convincing. There was a 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:16.439 lot of convincing. I thought he was. 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:20.720 Very like brandony about it. Yeah, like, yeah, I didn't 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:23.920 do anything. I mean, it probably wasn't the best decision. 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:26.000 But I made a mistake. What are you gonna do? 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:30.640 Oh my gosh, that's so funny. I maybe that's where 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:36.000 in life I kind of learned that you don't have 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:38.840 to you know, like, you don't expect a big apology 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:41.040 from somebody, even somebody that you. 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:44.560 Can't quite say it right, But that doesn't mean they 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:45.000 don't mean it. 0:12:45.080 --> 0:13:00.680 Yeah, So let's talk about Okay, I know we talked 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:02.880 about the I want to know how long in hair 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:05.480 makeup you were for your Sci Fi roles? So, like, 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:07.880 what's the longest day I ever satin hair to get 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:08.520 that stuff done? 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:11.520 The first one I ever did was my first job 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:14.320 in TV. Was it was on the Next Generation and 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:17.719 I played a borg and it was I had one 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:20.320 scene and it was four and a half hours to 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:21.320 get in to make up. 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:25.040 Four and a half hours just with them gluing you know, colors, And. 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:26.840 Did you get claustrophobic. 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:30.040 It's weird. No, it's weird. It's weird. 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:36.120 I mean I had never done any prosthetics. No, No, 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:37.760 it was, I mean I was. It was my first 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:39.920 job so of course I went over the paid. 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:40.360 Way too much. 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:42.800 I was so nervous, you know, I'm glad I had 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:44.360 four and a half half hours to work on my 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:47.959 one scene and then I was, you know, panicked when 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:50.760 they shot it. But I do remember that when I 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:53.800 shot I think the second one, when I was on 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:57.199 Deep Space nine, I played a Kardashian. 0:13:57.800 --> 0:13:59.800 Different than the Jewels. 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:02.440 Different. Wait, there's a different Kardashian. 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:06.640 There's a Kardashian race on Star Trek Strap Star Trek, 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:07.920 which is very strange. 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:11.000 Oh, like a whole race of people that yes. 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:14.800 Yes, and I when when I the first morning of that, 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:17.880 you know, because the makeup takes so long, they shoot 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:21.560 you up for like seventeen hour days. So on Monday morning, 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:26.960 I went in at two am, and you know, and 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:33.200 by later that day essentially the North Quake earthquake hit, 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:38.640 North Earthquake hit, and we were all in this rickety 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:42.960 you know, makeup building on Paramount on the Paramount lot, 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:45.960 and it starts swaying and things start falling off, and 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:49.280 then the lights go out and everybody was panicked, and we. 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:53.080 Go out and like the whole city is shut down. 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:55.600 Were you dressed like a Kardashian. 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:57.840 I was, I had like stuff glued to my face, 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:01.120 and it's like fire in the morning or something. I've 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:04.720 been three hours of prosthetics put on and then they 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:07.360 you know, they don't no one knows what's going on. 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:09.800 No one even knows where the exactly where the epicenter 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:11.080 is at first, because. 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:12.960 There was no communication. 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:16.720 Yeah. Yeah, so we had to stay at Paramount. I remember. 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:19.880 I remember sitting in the dark for hours while they 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:24.000 decided whether or not they were going to resume production 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:24.400 for the day. 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:25.960 And we ended up not ended up. 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:29.240 Sitting its home, but but yeah, it was a very strange, 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:31.280 very strange place to be when the earthquake hit. 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:33.760 Yeah, because that was early in the morning and you 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:34.520 were already at work. 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:37.360 I was hours into work by then. 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:38.080 Wow. 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:39.680 Yeah. Yeah. 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:42.320 So do you think that the industry has changed? Like 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:44.880 you said before, there's just so many actors, there's so 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:49.680 many platforms too. But do you feel like actors are 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:53.080 getting like I feel it. I don't know. It feels like, yes, 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:56.440 there are more rules, but does that equate more work 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:58.200 for an actor like you? 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:03.760 No, it hasn't, I mean for to me it Yeah, no, 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:06.680 I mean, you know, I passed up a bunch of 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:10.080 stuff when I was younger that might have, you know, 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:12.520 foolishly because my agents were like that, you don't want 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:14.400 to be on CBS. 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:17.400 People only watch NBC or whatever, like just the crazies. 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:20.120 Oh yeah, they would say CBS is for old people 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:20.800 or something. 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:24.760 The decisions I was, you know, we were making. 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:29.120 Back then were so dumb career wise because because we 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:32.760 were over overthinking everything. But you know, I mean, I 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:35.320 do think we'd make It's not just actors. I think 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:38.240 it's the whole industry. People make less for the same work, 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:40.640 is what I think happens. I think it happens to 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:44.600 writers as much as it does to actors. And I 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:46.760 think it you know, everybody talks about how hard it 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:48.320 is when you get you know, to find work when 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:50.040 you get older and blah blah, and of course there's 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:54.840 less roles, and that happens to actors, like I think 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:58.440 it happens to everybody in the business industry. You know, 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:00.640 I imagine being a cosmic because every time you come 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:03.040 off a show casting director, you have to apply for 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:07.320 another show, and you know, you do, you build your resume, 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:10.040 which think makes you feel like you've got your resume, 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:13.000 But then somebody comes in and somebody's old assistant who's 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:14.920 hungrier is going to work for half the amount, and 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:16.560 they know the same people because you trained them. 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:19.080 And you know what I mean, Like, it's it's. 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:20.719 Hard to cut throat business rights. 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:23.399 I just think any any business that you have to 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:30.800 sort of like reapply every time, if everyby every time, 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:32.200 the job ends gets. 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:33.920 Harder as you get older. I think it's it's a 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:36.000 it's tough in our business for pe. 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:53.920 Okay, tell me about when you played Ted Bundy, because okay, 0:17:54.040 --> 0:18:01.440 that is a role, very memorable character to portray. Yeah, 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:04.080 is it weird for you to be praised for playing 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:05.000 an infamous killer. 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.840 I mean, that's one of the things that I often 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:11.560 get asked to do podcasts for. And the truth is, 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:15.200 I'm not a big I'm not a big serial killer guy. 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:16.800 I wanted to play the role. The role was really 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:17.399 fun to play. 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:19.800 Sure, I will tell you a story, but let me 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:22.120 put a pin in it and I will tell you later. 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:24.679 But when I when I auditioned for nine or two 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:27.960 and zero, but when I you know, Ted Bundy, they 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:31.080 weren't even gonna see me or I didn't even know 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:32.639 it was on the radar and I was at someone's 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:36.760 house playing scrabble and a girl walked in and was like, 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:37.879 we can't find Ted Bundy. 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:39.200 You're perfect for Ted Bundy. 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:41.280 I'm the casting assistant on the thing, and they called 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:42.640 me and I booked it. 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:46.400 Oh my god, JUSTI you must have had some kind 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:49.639 of effect on her in your scrabble outfit exactly and 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:50.840 your whole vibe. 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:56.800 Well, my first word was was like, murder, that's funny. 0:18:57.200 --> 0:19:01.560 Yeah, So that was fun We shot for five weeks. 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:03.600 It was the first thing I'd ever done and that 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:05.280 I was in every scene essentially. 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:07.440 Wait what year was this two. 0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:11.320 Thousand and four? I think or five maybe? Yeah, And 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:13.160 it did well. They flew me out to. 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:15.520 You know, it did well. 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:18.040 The movie did well, and it helped me and it 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:20.440 was sort of up up until that point, I had 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:26.240 never really played bad guys, and it opened up that 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:31.200 casting to me and then for me a minute, that's 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:31.840 all I did. 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:33.399 You know. It's just so funny how you get like 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:33.720 you go. 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:36.399 Back and forth with what they see you as this 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:38.159 and they're like, oh, you can do this, well it 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:40.479