Speaker 1: It's nine og one ong with Jenny Garth and Tory Spelling. Well, hello, sir, hi,
Speaker 1: how are you okay? Thank you for joining our little podcast.
Speaker 1: Very very nice of you.
Speaker 2: I listened to a couple of episodes. They're fun.
Speaker 1: Oh these years later. Have you ever done the other OMG? No,
Speaker 1: if there's no other OMG? Have you ever done the
Speaker 1: other nine oh two to one oh podcast with like
Speaker 1: the producers? Oh, well then you're fresh.
Speaker 3: No, I've actually this is the first podcast I've ever
Speaker 3: said I've ever said yes to.
Speaker 1: Oh. I feel very honored. We had OMG, feel very honored.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Well, usually I get that they're like horror ones that
Speaker 3: want to talk to me, and I always say that.
Speaker 1: Oh god, well we will, it'll be painless, probably aciate. Well,
Speaker 1: how long has it been since we saw each other
Speaker 1: in the flesh? That would be like twenty.
Speaker 2: Nine years maybe really, I think.
Speaker 1: So twenty nine years ago. Yeah, because you came in,
Speaker 1: came swooping in. I did you played Jeff?
Speaker 2: I played Jeff Stockman.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, in four episodes during season eight. So yes,
Speaker 1: you just came out of nowhere.
Speaker 3: Literally, I came out of nowhere when everyone in the
Speaker 3: cast was making really bad relationship choices, and.
Speaker 1: You had your eyes set on Cale.
Speaker 2: Kelly, I did right away. Yeah, we worked together.
Speaker 1: You were also manipulated into liking her because the Valerie
Speaker 1: told you that she liked you, and she likes Valerie
Speaker 1: was up to her evil ways.
Speaker 3: I mean, Valerie was definitely played a part, but I
Speaker 3: sort of felt like Jeff was pretty Valerie just sort
Speaker 3: of facilitated the union.
Speaker 2: I feel like Jeff was was pretty pretty smitten pretty early.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, until he got a.
Speaker 3: New I think he still was smitten, and I just
Speaker 3: think he was you know Kelly. I think Kelly dogged
Speaker 3: him well.
Speaker 1: Kelly still loved Brandon though it was right right after
Speaker 1: he cheated on her. I know everybody could see that
Speaker 1: was watching that you were rebound.
Speaker 3: Sorry, Oh my name was was Stockman too? Just a
Speaker 3: stock boyfriend.
Speaker 1: Oh that's so funny. We looked him up. This is
Speaker 1: the stock image of a boyfriend. A boyfriend should be
Speaker 1: A rebound boyfriend should be, right. What did did you remember?
Speaker 1: Fondness of your.
Speaker 3: Time on our Yeah yeah, I mean, you know, we
Speaker 3: almost everything. I almost all of my Workman was with you.
Speaker 3: I worked a little bit.
Speaker 2: It was like a day Gang with a Gang yep, yeah,
Speaker 2: but really.
Speaker 3: Like ninety percent of it was with you. You were
Speaker 3: super easy, super professional. I was a little nervous. I
Speaker 3: was like, I think it was I mean I had
Speaker 3: done stuff, but it was sort of the highest profile
Speaker 3: thing I had more than one episode only.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I.
Speaker 3: Had a I had I did it. I'd Dine a
Speaker 3: series that got canceled halfway through the airing of the pilot.
Speaker 3: I mean literally they almost yanked it off.
Speaker 2: The air before the hour was over.
Speaker 3: Fun and that done some other stuff, but no, it
Speaker 3: was kind of a big job. My friends were all excited,
Speaker 3: and I had gone in for the show a lot.
Speaker 3: I'm probably gone into a half dozen times.
Speaker 1: It must have been frustrating for actors because they there
Speaker 1: wasn't the hugest talent pool back in the nineties. You know,
Speaker 1: it's it's so.
Speaker 2: Weird because there seemed like there wasn't a huge.
Speaker 3: Talent pool and there was way less jobs, just way
Speaker 3: less jobs. But I do think the by and large,
Speaker 3: actors are better, not necessarily that they're they're better, but
Speaker 3: there are more good actors now than.
Speaker 2: They're used to be. There's a lot of a lot
Speaker 2: of people out there.
Speaker 1: They're you know, really good and all vuying for jobs,
Speaker 1: you know, they're all out there.
Speaker 3: One Yeah, though, I do think it's I do you know,
Speaker 3: I do think that the whole no longer being in
Speaker 3: the rooms like we used to be.
Speaker 2: I couldn't have done it. I couldn't have I.
Speaker 3: Couldn't be an actor in today's day, like starting out
Speaker 3: not knowing anyone, not knowing your peers, not knowing that
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's such an isolated feeling. You never hear anything back.
Speaker 1: You left to just be like, well, was I did?
Speaker 1: I was I terrible? Did they even watching? I don't
Speaker 1: even know?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I know a couple of you know,
Speaker 3: young actors who don't really have a sense of how
Speaker 3: good they are or what that they're actually making progress
Speaker 3: because they haven't really start started booking yet. But they're
Speaker 3: really good, Like I know, they're good, and and if
Speaker 3: they if they had like face to face stuff they
Speaker 3: have it, they might have a sense of it.
Speaker 2: But right now they're just sort of floating off.
Speaker 1: And how do you how do you find these people?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 3: I coach actors occasionally, you do, Yeah, mostly.
Speaker 1: Where are you located? You're still I'm in Hollywood, Hollyweird, Okay, perfect, Hollyweird,
Speaker 1: and your coach. You coach actors sometimes like.
Speaker 2: For four auditions, sometimes on sometimes on set, mostly through referrals.
Speaker 3: Uh, I don't do a ton of them because I'm
Speaker 3: kind of expensive.
Speaker 1: I like that you know your worth.
Speaker 3: I don't have a ton of them, but I but
Speaker 3: I keep busy with it, and I really enjoy it.
Speaker 1: Michael. It's always good to know you're right. Oh, I
Speaker 1: mean yeah, if you've worked with Michael, now we know
Speaker 1: you're paying a lot.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 1: You could get someone for cheaper, just saying I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: I recently had someone contact me and if you came
Speaker 3: in and I was like, wait a minute, we know
Speaker 3: each other, and she had we had played husband and
Speaker 3: wife something.
Speaker 1: That's weird because you've done a mke billion roles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of guests, a lot.
Speaker 1: Of guest stars, a lot of stuff with Star Trek.
Speaker 1: Is that right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I did. That's the Star World mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Fan base is pretty intense. You get recognized from that
Speaker 1: or were you in like crazy because I.
Speaker 3: Was in a heavy makeup, I get I got recognized,
Speaker 3: you know. Weirdly, like depending on where I am, I mean,
Speaker 3: I get recognized.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know. I don't know what this is.
Speaker 3: You know, I spend a time in Paris, and I
Speaker 3: don't know if it's that people don't recognize me as
Speaker 3: much in LA or just just starts so used to
Speaker 3: seeing people that have been on TV that there they
Speaker 3: don't say anything.
Speaker 2: But I have more people approach me or saying I.
Speaker 3: Saw you on suits, I saw you on my rest
Speaker 3: place in Paris than I do in in LA.
Speaker 1: That's interesting. Yeah, the French were they were very devoted fans.
Speaker 1: I think in LA it's like this will happen to
Speaker 1: me too, Like I'll see somebody that I'm sure as
Speaker 1: an actor, like you can tell and but you just
Speaker 1: can't place like what yeah, because there's so much programming now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know how we're supposed to recognize anyone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, like and I mean, I'm sure
Speaker 3: people recognize you all the time, and like you don't.
Speaker 2: Want to necessarily like they're like, how do I know you?
Speaker 2: How do I know you? Like you know, like they
Speaker 2: just like they're just like that's the.
Speaker 1: Best part when they because I was just in France,
Speaker 1: and this happened to me? How do I know you?
Speaker 1: And you're literally like you're midbite or you're walking by
Speaker 1: them on the street and they expect you to stand
Speaker 1: there and and just I don't know what am I
Speaker 1: supposed to say? I'm supposed to go through my resume
Speaker 1: and see which one you think it was? Or am
Speaker 1: I supposed to let you roll through? Was it this?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Do you want me to do you want to
Speaker 2: hear another one?
Speaker 1: Do you want me to just tell you what it
Speaker 1: probably is?
Speaker 3: Probably that's and I do think probably it's the same
Speaker 3: for you as me. It's like the demographic of the
Speaker 3: person asking or the approaching narrows down what they've what
Speaker 3: they've seen.
Speaker 1: You, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Did you? Okay? So you you mentioned Melrose Place? You
Speaker 1: were on Melrose Place before you were cast on nine or.
Speaker 3: Like my my very it was? I think it might
Speaker 3: have been my second job.
Speaker 2: Ever?
Speaker 1: What was your role? What'd you do?
Speaker 2: I played? I don't know. I just I remember the
Speaker 2: lines more than anything else.
Speaker 1: What are the lines?
Speaker 3: You like?
Speaker 2: Hey, sorry you can't join us this weekend? Man?
Speaker 3: Seeing me drinks on the veranda and shrimp cocktails or something.
Speaker 3: It was just I was just a doctor, another doctor,
Speaker 3: but I was like it was one scene.
Speaker 2: With him and.
Speaker 3: Oh god, I cant remember name the redhead who went
Speaker 3: on to Desperate Housewives and all that, Marcia.
Speaker 2: Marsha Cross, marsh Cross.
Speaker 1: That's funny. I didn't know that you had been on
Speaker 1: on that show and.
Speaker 2: I did that. I actually did the pilot of the
Speaker 2: remake of Melroe's Cloves pilot. They didn't. They did at
Speaker 2: remake up. David Guggenheim directed it. Wait when fifteen years ago?
Speaker 1: Wow, I would have thought that would have been very recent.
Speaker 2: But no, yeah it did. I don't think it did.
Speaker 2: I don't think it did went anywhere.
Speaker 1: So you obviously met Aaron Spelling and fell into the
Speaker 1: to the routine, like the mixing bowl of actors that
Speaker 1: always kind of kept popping up on his shows.
Speaker 2: I guess. So, yeah, was.
Speaker 1: It weird to join our show because we were already
Speaker 1: in the eighth scenes.
Speaker 2: It wasn't. Yeah, it was. I mean, you know, you learn.
Speaker 3: I think there's the learning curve on sets in Hollywood
Speaker 3: is so fast, like you don't know what's going on,
Speaker 3: and then you get you get a sense pretty quickly
Speaker 3: of like what you can ask for and what you
Speaker 3: can ask for and you know what I mean, like
Speaker 3: and the pecking order on sets and blah blah blah
Speaker 3: and yeah. So so you know, guest stars come and go.
Speaker 3: You kind of you do your job, You sort of
Speaker 3: chat with the director a little bit with the lead
Speaker 3: actors that they want to, you know, But when you
Speaker 3: come in for a few episodes, it's a little different
Speaker 3: because you're for a minute, a part of the group,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And it was really fun.
Speaker 1: I remember watching and being like, wait, Kelly's taking him
Speaker 1: to the birthday party or whatever it was. I didn't
Speaker 1: remember anybody, he doesn't know the rest of the gang,
Speaker 1: and she's not even dating him, and now she's like
Speaker 1: flaunting him in front of Brandon. This is so weird.
Speaker 3: There was a lot, I mean, I mean, I went
Speaker 3: back and watched something again too, and I had forgotten
Speaker 3: how often we kissed.
Speaker 2: I thought, I thought maybe we just kissed once.
Speaker 3: But I was pleasantly surprised that we kissed most local
Speaker 3: times and in front of Brandon one time.
Speaker 1: Of Brandon, Yeah you got some knoheys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we were we It was.
Speaker 1: Did you know that you were gonna that was your
Speaker 1: character and that you were going to have this little
Speaker 1: tryst with Kelly? That was the plan.
Speaker 2: I knew that I was not going to be around
Speaker 2: for very long.
Speaker 1: You were just a little.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They always have to have that that one. Like they
Speaker 1: the couple that everyone wants together, broke up and then
Speaker 1: they have to go their separate ways to remember how
Speaker 1: much they love each other, and then they come back together.
Speaker 3: What I gotta say, like watching the episodes, he never
Speaker 3: actually apologizes to Kelly, right, you never really apologize.
Speaker 2: He's woe is me and and and but if you
Speaker 2: really listen to it, he's sort of like I made
Speaker 2: a mistake. Yeah, I made a mistake. You know.
Speaker 3: It's like he never like he never like falls on
Speaker 3: his sword, and which was surprising.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, what would you have liked him to do?
Speaker 1: Like what if you wrote it? If you would didn't wow.
Speaker 2: At least at the very end, go, look, I am
Speaker 2: I am sorry.
Speaker 1: He never I think maybe he said sorry, maybe maybe
Speaker 1: maybe it was off camera. No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2: Uh. There was a lot of convincing. There was a
Speaker 2: lot of convincing. I thought he was.
Speaker 1: Very like brandony about it. Yeah, like, yeah, I didn't
Speaker 1: do anything. I mean, it probably wasn't the best decision.
Speaker 2: But I made a mistake. What are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's so funny. I maybe that's where
Speaker 1: in life I kind of learned that you don't have
Speaker 1: to you know, like, you don't expect a big apology
Speaker 1: from somebody, even somebody that you.
Speaker 2: Can't quite say it right, But that doesn't mean they
Speaker 2: don't mean it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So let's talk about Okay, I know we talked
Speaker 1: about the I want to know how long in hair
Speaker 1: makeup you were for your Sci Fi roles? So, like,
Speaker 1: what's the longest day I ever satin hair to get
Speaker 1: that stuff done?
Speaker 3: The first one I ever did was my first job
Speaker 3: in TV. Was it was on the Next Generation and
Speaker 3: I played a borg and it was I had one
Speaker 3: scene and it was four and a half hours to
Speaker 3: get in to make up.
Speaker 2: Four and a half hours just with them gluing you know, colors, And.
Speaker 1: Did you get claustrophobic.
Speaker 2: It's weird. No, it's weird. It's weird.
Speaker 3: I mean I had never done any prosthetics. No, No,
Speaker 3: it was, I mean I was. It was my first
Speaker 3: job so of course I went over the paid.
Speaker 2: Way too much.
Speaker 3: I was so nervous, you know, I'm glad I had
Speaker 3: four and a half half hours to work on my
Speaker 3: one scene and then I was, you know, panicked when
Speaker 3: they shot it. But I do remember that when I
Speaker 3: shot I think the second one, when I was on
Speaker 3: Deep Space nine, I played a Kardashian.
Speaker 2: Different than the Jewels.
Speaker 1: Different. Wait, there's a different Kardashian.
Speaker 3: There's a Kardashian race on Star Trek Strap Star Trek,
Speaker 3: which is very strange.
Speaker 1: Oh, like a whole race of people that yes.
Speaker 3: Yes, and I when when I the first morning of that,
Speaker 3: you know, because the makeup takes so long, they shoot
Speaker 3: you up for like seventeen hour days. So on Monday morning,
Speaker 3: I went in at two am, and you know, and
Speaker 3: by later that day essentially the North Quake earthquake hit,
Speaker 3: North Earthquake hit, and we were all in this rickety
Speaker 3: you know, makeup building on Paramount on the Paramount lot,
Speaker 3: and it starts swaying and things start falling off, and
Speaker 3: then the lights go out and everybody was panicked, and we.
Speaker 2: Go out and like the whole city is shut down.
Speaker 1: Were you dressed like a Kardashian.
Speaker 3: I was, I had like stuff glued to my face,
Speaker 3: and it's like fire in the morning or something. I've
Speaker 3: been three hours of prosthetics put on and then they
Speaker 3: you know, they don't no one knows what's going on.
Speaker 3: No one even knows where the exactly where the epicenter
Speaker 3: is at first, because.
Speaker 1: There was no communication.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so we had to stay at Paramount. I remember.
Speaker 3: I remember sitting in the dark for hours while they
Speaker 3: decided whether or not they were going to resume production
Speaker 3: for the day.
Speaker 2: And we ended up not ended up.
Speaker 3: Sitting its home, but but yeah, it was a very strange,
Speaker 3: very strange place to be when the earthquake hit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that was early in the morning and you
Speaker 1: were already at work.
Speaker 2: I was hours into work by then.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So do you think that the industry has changed? Like
Speaker 1: you said before, there's just so many actors, there's so
Speaker 1: many platforms too. But do you feel like actors are
Speaker 1: getting like I feel it. I don't know. It feels like, yes,
Speaker 1: there are more rules, but does that equate more work
Speaker 1: for an actor like you?
Speaker 3: No, it hasn't, I mean for to me it Yeah, no,
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I passed up a bunch of
Speaker 3: stuff when I was younger that might have, you know,
Speaker 3: foolishly because my agents were like that, you don't want
Speaker 3: to be on CBS.
Speaker 2: People only watch NBC or whatever, like just the crazies.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they would say CBS is for old people
Speaker 1: or something.
Speaker 2: The decisions I was, you know, we were making.
Speaker 3: Back then were so dumb career wise because because we
Speaker 3: were over overthinking everything. But you know, I mean, I
Speaker 3: do think we'd make It's not just actors. I think
Speaker 3: it's the whole industry. People make less for the same work,
Speaker 3: is what I think happens. I think it happens to
Speaker 3: writers as much as it does to actors. And I
Speaker 3: think it you know, everybody talks about how hard it
Speaker 3: is when you get you know, to find work when
Speaker 3: you get older and blah blah, and of course there's
Speaker 3: less roles, and that happens to actors, like I think
Speaker 3: it happens to everybody in the business industry. You know,
Speaker 3: I imagine being a cosmic because every time you come
Speaker 3: off a show casting director, you have to apply for
Speaker 3: another show, and you know, you do, you build your resume,
Speaker 3: which think makes you feel like you've got your resume,
Speaker 3: But then somebody comes in and somebody's old assistant who's
Speaker 3: hungrier is going to work for half the amount, and
Speaker 3: they know the same people because you trained them.
Speaker 2: And you know what I mean, Like, it's it's.
Speaker 1: Hard to cut throat business rights.
Speaker 2: I just think any any business that you have to
Speaker 2: sort of like reapply every time, if everyby every time,
Speaker 2: the job ends gets.
Speaker 3: Harder as you get older. I think it's it's a
Speaker 3: it's tough in our business for pe.
Speaker 1: Okay, tell me about when you played Ted Bundy, because okay,
Speaker 1: that is a role, very memorable character to portray. Yeah,
Speaker 1: is it weird for you to be praised for playing
Speaker 1: an infamous killer.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's one of the things that I often
Speaker 3: get asked to do podcasts for. And the truth is,
Speaker 3: I'm not a big I'm not a big serial killer guy.
Speaker 2: I wanted to play the role. The role was really
Speaker 2: fun to play.
Speaker 3: Sure, I will tell you a story, but let me
Speaker 3: put a pin in it and I will tell you later.
Speaker 3: But when I when I auditioned for nine or two
Speaker 3: and zero, but when I you know, Ted Bundy, they
Speaker 3: weren't even gonna see me or I didn't even know
Speaker 3: it was on the radar and I was at someone's
Speaker 3: house playing scrabble and a girl walked in and was like,
Speaker 3: we can't find Ted Bundy.
Speaker 2: You're perfect for Ted Bundy.
Speaker 3: I'm the casting assistant on the thing, and they called
Speaker 3: me and I booked it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, JUSTI you must have had some kind
Speaker 1: of effect on her in your scrabble outfit exactly and
Speaker 1: your whole vibe.
Speaker 2: Well, my first word was was like, murder, that's funny.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that was fun We shot for five weeks.
Speaker 3: It was the first thing I'd ever done and that
Speaker 3: I was in every scene essentially.
Speaker 1: Wait what year was this two.
Speaker 3: Thousand and four? I think or five maybe? Yeah, And
Speaker 3: it did well. They flew me out to.
Speaker 2: You know, it did well.
Speaker 3: The movie did well, and it helped me and it
Speaker 3: was sort of up up until that point, I had
Speaker 3: never really played bad guys, and it opened up that
Speaker 3: casting to me and then for me a minute, that's
Speaker 3: all I did.
Speaker 2: You know. It's just so funny how you get like
Speaker 2: you go.
Speaker 3: Back and forth with what they see you as this
Speaker 3: and they're like, oh, you can do this, well it
Speaker 3: and I guess you can't do that because you can
Speaker 3: do this.
Speaker 1: Like You're like, no, but I'm looking at you and
Speaker 1: I'm thinking you could be you could play so many
Speaker 1: different characters. You have just still have just a great look.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: I could just see you cast as a million different characters.
Speaker 1: But did you not want to be stereotyped as the
Speaker 1: bad guy?
Speaker 2: No, don't I like playing the bad guy? Like I
Speaker 2: like you. I like playing It's fun.
Speaker 3: It's fun, I you know, I like, I like the
Speaker 3: further from me, the more fun it is. So I like,
Speaker 3: I've always enjoyed doing accents and and just stuff that
Speaker 3: that you know, I get a play is the most fun.
Speaker 3: And I think as you get older, you you and
Speaker 3: you're still around, you realize that it is so much.
Speaker 3: I mean, something that you guys did so well back
Speaker 3: then that I didn't think I was as like I've
Speaker 3: watched the episodes and I think, I I'm doing my best,
Speaker 3: but but there's something you guys did that I that
Speaker 3: is not easy to do, which is like keep it,
Speaker 3: don't go too deep because it doesn't quite work, Like,
Speaker 3: don't like lay it all out on the line, like
Speaker 3: just be present and charming and truthful, and it's you
Speaker 3: know that sounds easy. That's really hard, I think, I mean,
Speaker 3: it's really hard for most actors, Like I don't think
Speaker 3: Robert DeNiro could do what you guys did.
Speaker 1: Wait a second, somebody lift that quote.
Speaker 2: Please, he does something, you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 2: Roberts you know what I mean. He does what he
Speaker 2: does amazingly, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: But I don't know that Robert de Niro, like you
Speaker 3: guys were really good at keeping it light and present
Speaker 3: when it needed to be, and I thought it was
Speaker 3: it was.
Speaker 2: I think it's a real skill.
Speaker 1: It's interesting because it felt like such an intimate experience,
Speaker 1: even though there's a ton of people on set and
Speaker 1: all these different players play the role that they play
Speaker 1: in the making of the show, whether it's craft, service
Speaker 1: or costume or makeup or whatever. But there's when you
Speaker 1: are on the set and you're like practicing the scene
Speaker 1: and then it's the cameras rolling. Remember when the camera
Speaker 1: used to roll. The cameras rolling and there's one camera. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and there's just that intimacy between the camera and the characters.
Speaker 1: That's so it is so calm m. It's a really
Speaker 1: like safe. It feels like a really safe place. I
Speaker 1: think that we had that environment like with the core cast,
Speaker 1: like we all felt very comfortable in that space. Everything
Speaker 1: else that was hard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think you also, you know, you learn
Speaker 3: like you can go to acting class forever, and I think, like,
Speaker 3: I mean, I think acting class is a good thing.
Speaker 2: But.
Speaker 3: You learned so much faster how to be good on
Speaker 3: set than you ever could in acting class. It it,
Speaker 3: you know, and back then it was like, remember there
Speaker 3: was one camera, you'd get more takes, but the more
Speaker 3: takes was great because you get direction, and you know,
Speaker 3: like they did less setups and more takes of what
Speaker 3: they did do and uh, and you just you know,
Speaker 3: I remember like my first get, my first guest star
Speaker 3: was on NYPD Blue and they had me in a
Speaker 3: audition a bunch of times and the final time I
Speaker 3: was very green and very new. And the final time
Speaker 3: I went in there was nobody else in the in
Speaker 3: the in the waiting room, and I said that the
Speaker 3: big old scene, like where is everybody? And they said,
Speaker 3: it's just you. They just want to make sure you
Speaker 3: can do it. And I went up and auditioned and
Speaker 3: I booked the part. And then when when when we
Speaker 3: shot the first scene we shot the master, I put
Speaker 3: on a jacket and walk out, and then we shoot
Speaker 3: my clothes up in the and the scripts over when
Speaker 3: it comes over, says okay, so you put your arm
Speaker 3: in the in the you put your your arm in
Speaker 3: the sleeve of the jacket on this line.
Speaker 2: So and I was like, what what are you talking about?
Speaker 3: I didn't you know, like that's you know, you learn
Speaker 3: Oh I got to do it the way I did it, like,
Speaker 3: you know, it had never even crossed my mind that
Speaker 3: you had to match until then.
Speaker 1: You know, that's such a good ext ample of on
Speaker 1: the job training because I remember being like, oh, gosh, okay,
Speaker 1: that is very hard to master that skill, too, because
Speaker 1: when you're in your head thinking like when the fuck
Speaker 1: am I supposed to put my sleeve on.
Speaker 3: Yep, exactly exactly, Okay, to sip on this line or
Speaker 3: or it's one or the other, and then you learn.
Speaker 2: Then you learned the next step, which is like it's
Speaker 2: one or the other.
Speaker 3: So if they use that take, it doesn't really matter
Speaker 3: when you sip on this take because they can't use both,
Speaker 3: you know, Like, so you're like this one, I have
Speaker 3: to match that one.
Speaker 1: I'm just tell me when to drink, right, Well, It's
Speaker 1: nice to talk to you. You make me miss talking
Speaker 1: actor talk. I do. I gave that up for lent
Speaker 1: Oh Good a long time ago. But I'm really happy
Speaker 1: to see you and reconnect and yeah, i'd hire you.
Speaker 2: Thanks appreciate it. I do have a weird story about
Speaker 2: auditioning for nine or two and another.
Speaker 1: If you want me to tell you, tell me tell
Speaker 1: me that people want to hear this.
Speaker 2: So I had gone in a few times.
Speaker 3: There was a role which I think probably was you guys,
Speaker 3: probably just went through of a frat guy, a frat
Speaker 3: guy given a speech, and I I thought I was.
Speaker 1: Going to get that it was to be the frat guy.
Speaker 3: I thought it was a frat guy. I didn't get
Speaker 3: the frat guy. And then I came in for this
Speaker 3: this this role Jeff's dockman, and that I thought I
Speaker 3: had a great audition. I got home, got a call
Speaker 3: from my agent saying they liked you. They want to
Speaker 3: see you back, but they want you to not look
Speaker 3: like you just rolled out of bed, and they want
Speaker 3: you to wear.
Speaker 1: Socks hold on. So when you came in the first time,
Speaker 1: you didn't even look in the mirror. You just came in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just slapped myself to get, you know, put myself together.
Speaker 3: And the weird thing though, the only the reason why
Speaker 3: I remember that so well is because I was wearing socks.
Speaker 3: I did look like I had just rolled out of bed,
Speaker 3: but I was. I actually did have socks on.
Speaker 1: Okay. Were they no shows or were they like athletics?
Speaker 2: I don't know why.
Speaker 3: I think they were ra I just think they I
Speaker 3: don't know, I just think they were will you.
Speaker 1: Die on this sword? I did have socks on.
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 3: That's what I said. Yeah, I said, I said an
Speaker 3: angry memo. But then it went well and I got
Speaker 3: booked and and I was really excited.
Speaker 1: It was really fun and there we were kissing in
Speaker 1: front of ksing Well. I'm just it's so fun to
Speaker 1: connect with you again. And if you've seen me around town,
Speaker 1: which you probably won't cause I don't leave my house,
Speaker 1: but sitting around town, stop me. Let's that's actor talk.
Speaker 2: Someone that was great, sounds great. It's really nice, really
Speaker 2: nice to chat with Jenny
Speaker 1: Be Well