Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
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Speaker 1: screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the
Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Bruns, Rob Phillips,
Speaker 1: and Bill Jones. It's a Wednesday at the Star, and
Speaker 1: it's a day off for the players at the Star.
Speaker 1: But it's nary a day off for ducking Cowboys right
Speaker 1: makes no days off in the middle of the week.
Speaker 1: At least one cowboy has been busy this morning. Damien
Speaker 1: Wilson has tweeted that he already has walked his dog,
Speaker 1: gotten in a workout, and mold the lawn today. So
Speaker 1: our productive day for Cowboys linebacker Damie and Wilson. He
Speaker 1: scored a touchdown, he walked the dog, and walked the dog.
Speaker 1: Brad Shammish, good, very good. We had We've had Michael
Speaker 1: irvinish and now we've had Brad Shammish from Mickey Spagnola,
Speaker 1: Brian has had been as productive a day for you
Speaker 1: today so far as it has been for Damian Wilson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got through some practice tape and then also was
Speaker 1: able to write that that's up on Dallas cowboys dot
Speaker 1: Com right now, and then we filmed a couple of
Speaker 1: different things. We got a roundtable we did already, and
Speaker 1: I had one of the best sandwiches in a while
Speaker 1: across the street here at the Star. So it's been
Speaker 1: a very to check that. I've been a very productive day. Yep,
Speaker 1: been a productive day for the Aggies over there, Rob,
Speaker 1: thank you, Bill, appreciate that. I got that on the
Speaker 1: way downstairs, and I get it pre show and on
Speaker 1: the show, Aggie's in trouble. Oh well, trouble as the
Speaker 1: Buckeyes though, now pairs of that right there, you go, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll be okay, all right, So we stick to the
Speaker 1: NFL instead and talking Cowboys, and we are here for
Speaker 1: the next hour, and we've got a couple of practices
Speaker 1: in shells and shorts and helmets, yeah, that we can
Speaker 1: talk about here in preview the next two days of
Speaker 1: open practices as well, and Cowboys of course play a
Speaker 1: Sunday night game. The NFL regular season opens two weeks
Speaker 1: from tomorrow. It's that close. We need a drum roll.
Speaker 1: You think they're gonna stand shells the rest of the week.
Speaker 1: I think that way I don't look in that way. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then I'm kind of worried about what practices are
Speaker 1: gonna look like on Monday. Well there won't be Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Yeah again, goes again. Yeah, So I think the days
Speaker 1: of I think the the the heavy lifting, as they say,
Speaker 1: was all probably done in Oxnard. So we'll figure this
Speaker 1: out from there on. He's he's gonna trying to give
Speaker 1: his team a chance. I mean, I mean, I shouldn't
Speaker 1: say his team. He's gonna give his young players a
Speaker 1: chance here. He knows it's down the stretch. He knows
Speaker 1: he's got some kids are gonna have to play a
Speaker 1: lot of this Arizona game, and it's probably the second half,
Speaker 1: and then they're gonna have to go the whole Houston games.
Speaker 1: So I don't think he really wanted to beat up
Speaker 1: on his team too much going into these games and
Speaker 1: let these kids have a chance to see if they can,
Speaker 1: if they can in fact change some minds. That and
Speaker 1: they've got they've got a lot of injuries across the roster,
Speaker 1: so maybe he's trying to peel it back a little bit.
Speaker 1: Although I can't remember did they go in pads during
Speaker 1: this Frisco portion last year. Yes, they did, they did.
Speaker 1: I do a little bit because I remember one on
Speaker 1: watching one on one pass rush drills yesterday, it was
Speaker 1: three steps and stop. Yeah it was right, Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was that was fun to watch. You get to see
Speaker 1: who has a really quick get off there. But other
Speaker 1: than that, it was really who could set quick and
Speaker 1: who could get off quick there? But yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think he just is trying to help his team. You
Speaker 1: know he's getting he's got a pretty good pulse of
Speaker 1: it's guy, Rob, You're right, I think he's got to
Speaker 1: beat up football team from practice. But you know they've
Speaker 1: got a couple of quick games too, that that Sunday
Speaker 1: night is going to turn around quickly and it's gonna
Speaker 1: be Thursday before you know it. And then now you're
Speaker 1: now you're kind of in a little bit of a
Speaker 1: struggle there with that, and then you're taken some days
Speaker 1: off until you probably pick up on labor game. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you're down to one padded practice a week
Speaker 1: every Wednesday. We will see him take that team outside, right,
Speaker 1: I think, so that's what that's his kind of his emo.
Speaker 1: But do you think they've got this team cut yet?
Speaker 1: I bet within the most part fifty maybe within a handful. Yeah,
Speaker 1: can you can you identify the spots? Help me out
Speaker 1: that the guys that Yeah, well some of the players
Speaker 1: just tell me the spots. Well, we talked about the
Speaker 1: offensive line, you know, and and maybe and maybe they
Speaker 1: know the maybe they know the eight or nine they
Speaker 1: want to keep right now, but again it can change
Speaker 1: over that Labor Day weekend. Right. I think they waivers.
Speaker 1: I think they know the six. There's no way they
Speaker 1: could keep seven wide receivers, is it? Why not? If
Speaker 1: Tavon like I just nic, what do you do with
Speaker 1: Noah Brown? See to me, that would be eight? Then
Speaker 1: I've lost me. I've lost Noah Brown. I've lost He's
Speaker 1: got him at eight? You got Noah Brown? Is your
Speaker 1: eighth best? Yeah? Okay? Is that factor in? Don't you
Speaker 1: think Lenora is ahead of him? Oh? No, I do.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, but here's here's a seventh round
Speaker 1: draft pick who they like as potential but hasn't been
Speaker 1: able to do anything. Thompson's the same way. So does
Speaker 1: he an I R guy or do you release him
Speaker 1: wavy me injured? Well you do that anyway to get him?
Speaker 1: I mean, they haven't they haven't released him for a
Speaker 1: full practice yet. Yes, here's the thing though about you
Speaker 1: think he's ahead Lenora's ahead of him, don't you think? Well,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think about what a guy can do
Speaker 1: to get dressed on game days, and we know what
Speaker 1: Noah Brown can do to get dressed on game days.
Speaker 1: He's gonna play, that's a good question. No Brown's gonna
Speaker 1: play special teams. And we've talked about who's blocking in
Speaker 1: the running? Are you sure? Are you sure he is?
Speaker 1: He can? He's shown he can, okay, and we've seen
Speaker 1: his role on offense as a blocker in the run.
Speaker 1: What Laura gonna do on game day? I'm just asking.
Speaker 1: I'm with you. He's had a hell of a camp.
Speaker 1: I wanted receivers that can get open and catch the ball.
Speaker 1: I don't want receivers. That just the best thing you
Speaker 1: can say about him, Well, he's a good blocker. Who
Speaker 1: big spot? Is he taking? Mickey waiting a rotation at
Speaker 1: riders trying to help you? Here? Is he forty six?
Speaker 1: Is he on your forty six game day? If he
Speaker 1: if he's returning punts, there's a reason why they return.
Speaker 1: You try to argue special teams. Well, that's a good point,
Speaker 1: but there's a reason the number first, also a reason
Speaker 1: why they traded for Tavon no. I know he's kind
Speaker 1: of another wide receiver that's kind of a big ta
Speaker 1: going to return kickoffs too, judging by what I saw
Speaker 1: in Oxnard, Well that's true too, So so Noah Brown.
Speaker 1: What's Noah Brown doing that? And that's why I brought
Speaker 1: up Noah Brown that Chris Covington or Kioe Thomas by
Speaker 1: the way, damp passes over a guy who's in prison
Speaker 1: right now? Okay, but okay, is that is that? Is
Speaker 1: that going to be their most difficult cut? Now? And
Speaker 1: I hate then they say because these guys I think
Speaker 1: they they cut themselves. I think that they don't play
Speaker 1: well enough or something happens. But is that going to
Speaker 1: be the one area where they're going to have the
Speaker 1: biggest problem? Well, I think that's one. But you've talked
Speaker 1: about this defensive line. There might Randy Gregory has got
Speaker 1: a spot on this fifty three. I think we're all
Speaker 1: comfortable saying that, Yeah, he did, he did. I was
Speaker 1: trying to get him to earn it and but then
Speaker 1: he came out and played. Is just doing things I
Speaker 1: want him to see him do. There may not be
Speaker 1: room at the end for an end that yeah, maybe somebody, right,
Speaker 1: there's the position flex of some of those defensive linemen
Speaker 1: to help keep an extra defensive end. Yes, yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: which one you keeping the extra one? Yeah? Well, let's
Speaker 1: say I had him. You want to add him up?
Speaker 1: Just add him up? Okay? Are you? Are you on
Speaker 1: up Tyron Crawford? An end or attack doesn't matter. He's
Speaker 1: He's one of the whoever they keep here. You're first offs.
Speaker 1: Determine how you not keeping You're not You're not adding
Speaker 1: up defensive ends, you're adding up. Just gimme lineman. So
Speaker 1: Crawford's on the team, right, yes, Lawrence, yes, Collins, yes,
Speaker 1: all right, probably Woods? Would would that be your four? Okay?
Speaker 1: Now let's go back at Gregory Yes? Five? Yep? Kay,
Speaker 1: Taco six? All right? John Ward, Brian Price, Brian Price,
Speaker 1: I think coach him praising him yesterday? Yeah, Daytone Jones.
Speaker 1: I don't think so he's going to I are you
Speaker 1: think so? It's not that he can't work out for
Speaker 1: two weeks the coach Dayton. Yeah, Mickey said that was
Speaker 1: so much confidence. When Nicky says stuff like that with confidence.
Speaker 1: Then he guy's going to ir guys. He really believes it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he did not hesitate, he said. Okay, so Jones is on.
Speaker 1: He's on the injured just not on air, but on
Speaker 1: the injured you're injured list. He's in no land right now?
Speaker 1: A Ward and Ward is on. You got bubble on
Speaker 1: Ward or Yeah? I think I'll put him a hair
Speaker 1: on the bubble. Okay, so we've got six locks Tapper,
Speaker 1: bubble Tapper's bubble bubble whom I forget? Oh? Armstrong? Armstrong's
Speaker 1: he's on seven there, right, he didn't do much that
Speaker 1: last game. Yea, yeah, he's on. That's seven seven locks.
Speaker 1: Do I have enough defensive tackles I've got? Are we
Speaker 1: missing a defensive jil? You got Woods? Maybe Crawford Woods
Speaker 1: Ross to be playing Ross? Daniel Ross he started last game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's over here. He's a bubble the bubble boys. You
Speaker 1: got Prices a bubble boy? No, I got Price? You
Speaker 1: got him underline eight times? There's I think Price is
Speaker 1: a bubble guy. Yeah, yeah, okay, so you got five
Speaker 1: bubbles one? Okay, who's the four? All right, let's do this.
Speaker 1: I've got seven locks locks seven locks, five bubbles and
Speaker 1: an injured bubble, so we need two more. We're gonna
Speaker 1: probably have nine, right, Okay, who who are the best
Speaker 1: of the bubble guys? Well, if if we're judging by
Speaker 1: who's playing, okay, wait wait, wait, hold on, how many
Speaker 1: tackles do we have? Yeah, that's important. That's four we
Speaker 1: need to count. And Crawford, well he's a halfer, he's
Speaker 1: a half Yeah, so I've got Colins, Woods and probably Price.
Speaker 1: So I got three and a half tackle Okay, so
Speaker 1: you just took Price off the bubble. No, who are
Speaker 1: your locks right now? Your locks three? Two tackles, two
Speaker 1: and a half tackles, two and a half tackles. Okay,
Speaker 1: run down your bubble guys again, Ward Tapper, Elie Ross, Price,
Speaker 1: So three of those are tackles three and a half
Speaker 1: or tackles. Yeah, and then you got Eally that halfers
Speaker 1: the one yeah one, you got one and a half
Speaker 1: ends in three and a half tackles, and so your
Speaker 1: number of ends that you have as locks Lawrence four
Speaker 1: and a half, Gregory Taco and Armstrong. Yeah, you're okay
Speaker 1: at You're you're okay at end. So there's four there?
Speaker 1: Do you think Brian Price is on there, I really do.
Speaker 1: I think he and he played himself. We're going to
Speaker 1: move towards the roster spot, right, I'll move him over here.
Speaker 1: You want Nicky didn't want to move? Do you want
Speaker 1: five total and including the half and halfs? Do you
Speaker 1: want five ends and four? You want to total up
Speaker 1: five ends? I mean nine? I think I need about
Speaker 1: four and four and Crawford either either, So you want
Speaker 1: four and a half and four and a half. So
Speaker 1: that would mean probably Cony Eally and Crawford would be
Speaker 1: the Yeah, because think Cony Eale could play both spots
Speaker 1: and he's been working. Does he make up the other half?
Speaker 1: Does Cony Ely makeup the other half? Well, you've got okay,
Speaker 1: if let's say, okay, this is you've got two and
Speaker 1: a half right now on the tackles. Let's put Price
Speaker 1: on the team. Okay, So I got Price, that gets
Speaker 1: you three and a half and Woods and Collins and
Speaker 1: then and then a half Crawford Crawford and a half.
Speaker 1: It's three and a half. If you keep Elie that
Speaker 1: gets you to four tackles. That's yeah, that's what I
Speaker 1: was thinking about. And that way you're keeping five ends,
Speaker 1: So you have what ends do you have? I've got
Speaker 1: Lawrence Gregory, Taco Armstrong. That's four. Okay, So let's I'm
Speaker 1: trying to get my ou guys. Oh yeah, you are
Speaker 1: all right to get put Tapper in there. That's another end. Okay.
Speaker 1: So who got cut Ward and Ross? Warden Ross? Did
Speaker 1: you count Malie Collins? Yeah? Okay, just making sure. So
Speaker 1: it's a question of do you want to keep jad Well,
Speaker 1: what you're doing is you're keeping all the tackles and
Speaker 1: cutting the two defensive tackles. You're keeping all the ends.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, all right, forget about the position flex of
Speaker 1: a coney Eli is Cony Eally deserved to make the
Speaker 1: team over Jehad Ward. That's a tough cut. That's a tie.
Speaker 1: That's who has been the best the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: How who's been the best in the game. Concerned are
Speaker 1: you about MALIEK Collins injury going forward? Going forward? I
Speaker 1: think they think he'll be ready for week one. But
Speaker 1: this is where this is where they're thinking that Coney Eally,
Speaker 1: if the argument will be Coney Eally will make the
Speaker 1: team because if something happens to one of the ends,
Speaker 1: he could play as an end. If something happens to
Speaker 1: one of the tackles, he could probably go play tackle
Speaker 1: where a Ward can't play as one of the ends.
Speaker 1: That makes sense. Yeah, and gosh, it's is the potential
Speaker 1: vested veteran in or into any of this equation. Cony Ely, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you have to pay him a full Starward too, right? Yeh,
Speaker 1: Ward's a guy they were really talking up a month
Speaker 1: or two ago. How do how do you think he's
Speaker 1: been overall? I think that once camp started, I think
Speaker 1: Jones has been better than him of the two guys
Speaker 1: that came out of when we went to Oxnard, Jones
Speaker 1: and Ward with the two starters, right, and I think
Speaker 1: Ward has been Okay, I don't and trust me. I
Speaker 1: had him in my top ten coming out of OTA's
Speaker 1: and it just hasn't materialized like I thought it was
Speaker 1: for him. Although people will tell you all the pads
Speaker 1: came on, do they consider the fact that they gave
Speaker 1: something up for him? No? Does that make you want
Speaker 1: to keep him? Bryan's point though about position flex it
Speaker 1: might be the tiebreaker. Yeah, this one. Even though coney
Speaker 1: Elie looks like me Russian, sometimes you know, it's just
Speaker 1: not getting off the ball quick enough. He gets he
Speaker 1: gets like he's playing in sand. So I agree. And
Speaker 1: then some guys as they get older, they turn they
Speaker 1: from ends into tackles. Yeah, but see, okay, who's the guy? Okay?
Speaker 1: If this is so tough, like when metabolism sets in
Speaker 1: week five, Week five, you have to have a guy
Speaker 1: play defensive tackle. Who are you going to trust? Coney
Speaker 1: Elie or Jihad Ward week five? Whoever you're playing David Rby. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's true, David Irby, I forgot about that. But what
Speaker 1: I'm joking because I ain't counting on nothing from him? Okay?
Speaker 1: Was that enough double negatives there? What? Okay? Completely not
Speaker 1: counting on him at all, planning not the season. I
Speaker 1: can see a lands and if I get him, great Okay.
Speaker 1: And while those lines, well, do you need to keep
Speaker 1: an extra in because you don't know for sure about
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory throughout the entire season. That's Coney Eely again?
Speaker 1: I think do you have enough ins though? Or is
Speaker 1: it Tapper Boomer Sooner built like it's it's tough for
Speaker 1: me to let go of Charles Tapper because you see
Speaker 1: the potential. No, you like Charles Tapper as a person. No,
Speaker 1: and I like I like his first step. I've always
Speaker 1: liked his first step. Can I have we seen that
Speaker 1: enough at times? Just closing speed, running down the guy
Speaker 1: on the sideline the other day? Can I grind my
Speaker 1: teeth and keep ten? Okay, if you're gonna keep ten,
Speaker 1: Mickey can't keep nine wide receivers? Then sounds for three
Speaker 1: quarterbacks ends yeah, yeah, and old boy, what are you
Speaker 1: doing at safety? By the way, which, by the way,
Speaker 1: safety they're gonna keep. They're gonna We're not gonna have
Speaker 1: a safety. We're gonna rush from the front. Uh, They're
Speaker 1: gonna give Rico some more snaps, I think with the
Speaker 1: first team. Why do you say that with such surprise?
Speaker 1: Why do you have a smirk on you? I'm just
Speaker 1: saying there, it looks like that's what they're gonna do.
Speaker 1: Is this kind of a Daniel Ross thing where hey,
Speaker 1: let's well, are we down playing now you look at
Speaker 1: the coaches film? Yeah, okay, are we down playing jahad
Speaker 1: Ward this week? Because Daniel Ross was starting, well, they
Speaker 1: keep rotating guys in to try to find somebody over there.
Speaker 1: They used Chris Covington, went with the ones just straight
Speaker 1: outside linebacker, played the Sam linebacker. Yeah, that's because Wilson
Speaker 1: went to the bathroom. Is that what it was? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And he came running back. Okay, I was wondering why
Speaker 1: that was all the cat I wrote about it. It's
Speaker 1: like Wilson walk the dog. That's really what happened. I
Speaker 1: thought that. Really I put him in there because he
Speaker 1: came running back. Yeah, I wrote him. I saw it
Speaker 1: him like going like you've been Covington some more. That's
Speaker 1: a good note by you. Eyes saw my eyes. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But I well, okay, what's the position you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to go light at? Then? I've always said quarterback. Oh,
Speaker 1: you're gonna go with two quarterback? Well, I mean I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to cut anybody here. Yes, you are going ahead,
Speaker 1: because there's still two games. You cut people who you want.
Speaker 1: I think one of the quarterbacks will be a practice squatter. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm with Brian and that you shouldn't go with me
Speaker 1: on any If you cut a drafted quarterback, there's probably
Speaker 1: a team out there that's like, oh, we had this
Speaker 1: grade on him and he's picked up. So you're putting
Speaker 1: Cooper Russian on the practice squad. No, Cooper Rush is
Speaker 1: my backup quarterback. Okay, I'm just saying a third quarterback
Speaker 1: it is somewhat of a luxury because we've seen them
Speaker 1: recent years. Just go with two, right Mac now, Now
Speaker 1: the second quarterback is usually has been a guy in
Speaker 1: the past, has been a vet, you know, a John
Speaker 1: Kitten or somebody like that. You know, it's made me laugh.
Speaker 1: We did the same thing this time last year, and
Speaker 1: I had it all figured out and then I miss
Speaker 1: added and I had like fifty five. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: just cut them. I don't worry about it. Carolina, Hey, Goodell,
Speaker 1: were getting too except we're keeping you were keeping fifty
Speaker 1: five here today? Where else can you go? Like, what
Speaker 1: is the fine if if there was if you had more,
Speaker 1: the league, what is the fine if, Mickey is the
Speaker 1: league will not let you do that. They had them
Speaker 1: up for you. They cut themselves. Yeah, they they have
Speaker 1: heard that before. You've got too many. You're losing number twelve.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what though. It was a time during
Speaker 1: the salary cap era when it first started, if you
Speaker 1: could not get under the salary cap, the league would
Speaker 1: cut players for you. That was that was part of
Speaker 1: the plan that you know, if you can't do it,
Speaker 1: the alarms would go out, Yeah, we do it for you.
Speaker 1: So what would they tell the bottom of the roster.
Speaker 1: They just start cutting guys until it's fine. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: you're gonna take the fine, then let the league tell
Speaker 1: me who I'm cutting, right. I remember, I remember when
Speaker 1: they were really close to one of those and it
Speaker 1: looked like there was no way their teams going with
Speaker 1: fifty two guys fifty one guys and there is a minimum.
Speaker 1: But we did that. And I remember writing that the
Speaker 1: bells were ready to go off on the cowboys gonna
Speaker 1: be over the cap, right, And of course they got under.
Speaker 1: And the next day Stephen Jones saw me and he goes,
Speaker 1: I didn't hear any bells yesterday. What's the position to
Speaker 1: go light at? If they're gonna go light? Do you
Speaker 1: think it's quarterback? No, I'm saying it's a possible they could, right,
Speaker 1: you don't have to have three q tight end instead
Speaker 1: of four. You're going three right keeping a fullback? So um,
Speaker 1: that's possible. About what about could you go right at safety?
Speaker 1: M h? Could you just go three? No? One? What
Speaker 1: you know? Okay, what are they gonna do with Scarborough?
Speaker 1: Scarborough makes the team see that's that's Darius Jackson. But
Speaker 1: but you think both Scarborough would make this team. D
Speaker 1: Jackson is lurking. He's lurking. But you could initially if
Speaker 1: you did when us, if you're depending on what their
Speaker 1: decision is there, you could go lighter there at running
Speaker 1: back and then because oh, Wally could play as a
Speaker 1: single back if you had to run the football. I've
Speaker 1: seen him do this at Oakland before, and you know,
Speaker 1: we don't know what they're gonna do with Tavon Austin
Speaker 1: back there, but it's a possibility. And seeing him a
Speaker 1: couple of times play back a little bit, yeah, but
Speaker 1: not enough to say, oh, he's a running back, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: so let's do this. We expect you to do anything special, teams,
Speaker 1: Let's tease three, let's tease this. Why don't we add
Speaker 1: all these up after this? Okay, that's what we're gonna do,
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Speaker 1: Ford Center at the Star in Fresco tomorrow and Friday
Speaker 1: morning eleven am start times on practice and also next Tuesday.
Speaker 1: They're all morning practices from here on out. It's free
Speaker 1: and open to the public. It's a festive environment over
Speaker 1: there on Tostito's Plaza as well. I hear they're gonna
Speaker 1: have yoga on the plaza all night in movie night
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, that's what I heard. What movie we're showing,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, not know yet. I don't know. Somebody
Speaker 1: let us know what movie it is. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: ever go to the movies. I'm still trying to have
Speaker 1: it all the time. Yeah, they do. I can't remember why.
Speaker 1: One night I left and the place was packed with
Speaker 1: people watching a movie Launchers. What's really cool? It was
Speaker 1: hot when you come over here on a Saturday and
Speaker 1: they got the college football games up. That's kind of cool.
Speaker 1: You kind of walk around and go to the shops
Speaker 1: and then if you want to watch. I mean I
Speaker 1: watched the A and M Alabama game one time. I
Speaker 1: was kind of head that game. That was a Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was I hear. It's pretty cool. A lot of games.
Speaker 1: We got one one, that's right. We're talking about the
Speaker 1: twenty twelve games. Yeah, they replayed the Johnny Football Game,
Speaker 1: the classic. Yes, I hear. It's a pretty good fun
Speaker 1: day on Sunday too. You can bring your football and
Speaker 1: throw it around. Yeah. Yeah, that's when. That's when the
Speaker 1: that's when the Lindsay and I are on the set
Speaker 1: out there and the dads with throwing nine routes to
Speaker 1: their five year old. Lindsay's eight months pregnant. We're like
Speaker 1: talking about the inactors and the balls bouncing all around
Speaker 1: our feet and stuff is that happening again this year.
Speaker 1: I think so out there on the play did you
Speaker 1: see it all? But it almost happened Saturday to the
Speaker 1: pregame show we were we're on the ball. Well, no,
Speaker 1: we're on the set and there's people standing all over
Speaker 1: and here comes some guy and he's ready to walk
Speaker 1: right in front of the camera. Was that Jason Garrett
Speaker 1: when he came on the beginning of the shot? No,
Speaker 1: it was probably when Jerry was on. All right, and
Speaker 1: here comes this guy and he's not paying attention, and
Speaker 1: I finally did, and I was on camera and I
Speaker 1: went the stairs, stop stop. I looked foolish, But he
Speaker 1: didn't black out this set. We have people, we have
Speaker 1: people walk up and that's the beauty of live telling.
Speaker 1: They walk up right in front of the camera. What
Speaker 1: are you guys doing? Yeah, we're doing a show. How
Speaker 1: about the time I think we were in San Diego
Speaker 1: and the balls came rolling through the set right and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I see this wide receiver comes
Speaker 1: flying through. He ducks for the camera, gets it and
Speaker 1: instead of exiting to the left, us back, Duck's back unders.
Speaker 1: It's part of being on the field live TV. Baby
Speaker 1: one neat moment. Yesterday at Cowboys practice, they had the
Speaker 1: Santa Fe High School UM representatives that were in attendance
Speaker 1: and got to meet with Dak Prescott and Jason Garrett,
Speaker 1: Sean Lee and others. Um. We did a story on
Speaker 1: it last night on CBS eleven. Uh. And the dad,
Speaker 1: Chris Stone is a huge fan of Talking Cowboys Cowboys
Speaker 1: break all the program here on Dallas Cowboys dot com.
Speaker 1: I know he asked for your autograph, probably Mickey did
Speaker 1: mine as well. It was on his sons like a bituary,
Speaker 1: you know when you go to your funeral and you
Speaker 1: sign the book. And he asked me to sign it.
Speaker 1: And it was like, Okay, I don't know if I
Speaker 1: can do this, you know. Yeah. Well, and then it
Speaker 1: was it was And it was actually Lieutenant Governor Dan
Speaker 1: Patrick who set it up. He went to the funeral
Speaker 1: for Christopher Stone and Uh he was buried in a
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys decorated casket. Uh, in an Emmett Smith Jersey. Uh.
Speaker 1: It's just one of eight students, ten people who have
Speaker 1: died in that tragic event in May Santa Fe High
Speaker 1: School down in the Houston area. And UM, I get
Speaker 1: his sisters were here and his dad and mom and
Speaker 1: dad and his best friend who has a tattoo of
Speaker 1: Chris and Santa Fe on his arm. I mean it um,
Speaker 1: it was and as his dad put it, you know,
Speaker 1: it was this was just a great way to honor
Speaker 1: the memory of his son. And uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: asked him how long he'd been a Cowboys fan, and
Speaker 1: he said since before he was born. He was a
Speaker 1: Cowboys fan. But it also it shows us something. You know,
Speaker 1: we're here and real life is gone on out there
Speaker 1: a lot, and what we I feel honored to be
Speaker 1: able to just give a little bit of respite to
Speaker 1: people out there who are going through everyday life. And
Speaker 1: that's that kind of puts in perspective. Well, you know me,
Speaker 1: I was overwhelmed. I just yeah, well, you know the
Speaker 1: great thing about being too at the start, we're walking down,
Speaker 1: I know, Rob and I were walking down on the
Speaker 1: field and you guys, super job doing what you did there.
Speaker 1: But the fans that yell at you and say yeah Brian, Rob,
Speaker 1: and you turn around your way and you know, and
Speaker 1: you just acknowledge them, and we trust me, we appreciate.
Speaker 1: We have a lot of back and forth with fans
Speaker 1: and stuff, and that's part of our job. But we
Speaker 1: do appreciate the the everyday life out there, the struggles
Speaker 1: and of people. And you know, like you said, Bill,
Speaker 1: if you can kind of bring a little a little
Speaker 1: joy to people just because this football team does, that's
Speaker 1: what we do. That's exactly what we do. That beat
Speaker 1: video we did, the documentary and kind of following us around,
Speaker 1: That's what I said, Like, that's brings us joy to
Speaker 1: be able to. I mean, people are so invested in
Speaker 1: what we do for a living, right, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: It makes it easy to come to work. Yeah, that's true. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's one of the neat things about sports is how
Speaker 1: it brings families together, you know, and it there's so
Speaker 1: such special memories, whether it's your college team, whether it's
Speaker 1: your an NFL team or whatever. Anyway, I just wanted
Speaker 1: to mention that, Uh yeah, great story. So how about
Speaker 1: before we paired down the roster. There we have Josh
Speaker 1: in Maryland here on talking Cowboys. Hello Josh, Hey, how's
Speaker 1: it going great? Guys? Thinking my call? Quick plush that
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley is there's something underlying going on with him
Speaker 1: as to why besides this injury thing that they're talking
Speaker 1: about and Rico rick On Davis and Dalton Shaw. There's
Speaker 1: Rico found him making a gap between Dalton Shaw even
Speaker 1: though he was a draft pit. Thanks all right, Josh,
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought up Cole Beasley because that was
Speaker 1: one of the lead items yesterday. He returned to practice
Speaker 1: and he looked good out there. Had that explosion. I
Speaker 1: think Josh is asking if there was something other than
Speaker 1: the injury, and that maybe there was some rumor about
Speaker 1: him not very happy with his contract and trying to
Speaker 1: you know, people were talking about potentially, well he's now
Speaker 1: a number one receiver and we'll see how that all
Speaker 1: plays out. But no, I think the bottom line is
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley is healthy. You look good, as Bill said,
Speaker 1: out there practicing. So I think that's the main thing
Speaker 1: that you need to worry about right now. To have
Speaker 1: him back in fill. They need to get him going. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they need to find you talk about making things Dak friendly,
Speaker 1: get Cole Beasley going again, and that that would help
Speaker 1: this offense a ton. And he told us the other
Speaker 1: day he wants to get in this game. He wants
Speaker 1: some reps in this game to get ready for Week
Speaker 1: one and we'll see if that happens. It's he's been
Speaker 1: out for two weeks. So also there was a sinister
Speaker 1: plot brewing. Yeah, that there was some thought when we
Speaker 1: were an Oxnard that that maybe that Cole Beasley was
Speaker 1: sitting out because he was just he was disappointed with
Speaker 1: his contract and there was hopeful that they can get
Speaker 1: something done. But it was something that was again it's
Speaker 1: you know, you're walking around, You're hearing whispers and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, and you know, I just think that Cole Beasley,
Speaker 1: you know, he's he's a football player, and he you know,
Speaker 1: he wasn't healthy and now he's healthy and ready to go.
Speaker 1: So we'll see how that all plays out. He asked
Speaker 1: about Rico Gathers and Schultz. I will be the first
Speaker 1: to admit I am very disappointed at what's happened with
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz. I thought he would be a better blocker.
Speaker 1: I thought he would be a guy that could potentially
Speaker 1: try and push himself to be a starter here. He's
Speaker 1: not played as well as he has at Stanford, you know,
Speaker 1: and some guys come in and it takes him a
Speaker 1: little bit of time. And maybe that's the case with
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz. But he is a hard nosed kid. It
Speaker 1: played at a very fine program that is a hard
Speaker 1: nosed program, and they drafted him to be a guy
Speaker 1: that could play as an in line why block do
Speaker 1: what he has to do. But it's been a little
Speaker 1: bit of a learning curve and a little uphill struggle.
Speaker 1: I don't think Rico Gathers is. Where Rico Gathers is
Speaker 1: shined has been the physical plays that he played, the
Speaker 1: athletic plays. But he is no better blocker than Dalton
Speaker 1: Schultz is right now. So with that being said, I
Speaker 1: don't know if there's really a gap there. Okay, how
Speaker 1: how would you rate the two? Okay, you've got Swaying,
Speaker 1: you got Jarwin, all right, that's what I'm saying. I personally,
Speaker 1: I think that in long term and this is where
Speaker 1: I you know, with Rico, I just wish it he understood.
Speaker 1: And I've made a mention of us yesterday. He ran
Speaker 1: a hot route the other day that I didn't think
Speaker 1: you'd ever you know, he But so maybe you're making
Speaker 1: progress there. I know people are comparing him to like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get rid of him. It's been Martelli's been
Speaker 1: in all over and all that and you know. No,
Speaker 1: I mean I think that there's some legitimate concern about
Speaker 1: him not knowing his assignment. So if he can pull
Speaker 1: that through, he could be a better player than Dalton Schultz.
Speaker 1: There's no question about that. But Dalton Schultz knows what
Speaker 1: he's gonna do. They drafted him, they feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: the reason why they drafted him is because they probably
Speaker 1: feel like he's better than than Rico Gathers. Is your
Speaker 1: as we pair down the roster, is your gut feeling
Speaker 1: that they will keep four tight ends? No, I do not. Now.
Speaker 1: Rico's got to find a way to make them feel differently.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure that we're back in home, so I
Speaker 1: could say Joe and Flower Mound is he's still listening,
Speaker 1: he's still trying to get on the air. But I'm
Speaker 1: just I just feel like though that they drafted Schultz
Speaker 1: to be the next guy to be that, to be
Speaker 1: a guy. And but it's you cannot discount what Rico
Speaker 1: Gathers has done catching the football. You cannot discount that.
Speaker 1: And look, we saw him in twelve personnel. He's a
Speaker 1: couple first team reps here and there. I mean, are
Speaker 1: they trying to maybe give him an extra long look
Speaker 1: to see. Okay, all right, show us, show us you
Speaker 1: can be the fourth tight end on this Roger some
Speaker 1: I don't think. Probably his past catching ability is given
Speaker 1: him the opportunity to get some attempts there with the
Speaker 1: first team and to get more explica because I do
Speaker 1: feel like your fourth round draft pick Daltons, they he's
Speaker 1: making this team, and I think long term they think
Speaker 1: he can be a productive player. I mean it just
Speaker 1: don't don't finish the play with the tight ends coach
Speaker 1: standing out there with his arms stretched out in his
Speaker 1: palms up in the air like Nikki's not wrong. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is the question I have for you for the
Speaker 1: fifty three Rico Gathers, Charles Tapper, both Scarborough, Mike White. Yeah,
Speaker 1: think about that. Who's your fifty third player out of
Speaker 1: that group? It might be one of those safeties if
Speaker 1: you keep the if you keep Tyree Robinson or one
Speaker 1: of those guys you know, yeah, you might have to
Speaker 1: go heavy at safety just for a week or two.
Speaker 1: I did the numb till Xanders without counting as I went,
Speaker 1: this'd be interesting, is it? Should we? Church? Fifty three?
Speaker 1: I got? Did you reveal the numbers? I got to
Speaker 1: fifty four. So you're all right, I'm interested to hear
Speaker 1: who's fifty four? Player is? That's what? Yeah, not the player,
Speaker 1: but the number, the number like each position. All right,
Speaker 1: you got three quarterbacks okay, three special teamers okay, four
Speaker 1: running backs including the full back. Okay, so it's three
Speaker 1: and one one got it. Eight offensive linemen. That sounds reasonable.
Speaker 1: Three tight ends sounds reasonable. Seven wide receivers. And there's
Speaker 1: an asterisk there that that's why. That's what I'm stroke.
Speaker 1: That's heavy. That's that's heavy. That's heavy. That's heavy. So
Speaker 1: uh defense, ten defensive linemen, seven linebackers. That's not that's
Speaker 1: a position. It's not gonna be hard to cut, I
Speaker 1: don't think and nine uh bbs. And you got it
Speaker 1: broken down on the defensive linemen. Tackled it in Who's
Speaker 1: I didn't I just say who's got more quality at
Speaker 1: their position? The defensive line or the defensive backs overall?
Speaker 1: Just I don't name the positions more quality players, because
Speaker 1: what you're doing is you're keeping an extra defensive lineman
Speaker 1: and you're going short because traditionally teams will go ten
Speaker 1: defensive backs and nine. But you've flipped it. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: you obviously feel like that might be your fifty fourth player.
Speaker 1: Would that be the tenth? I mean, I think I'm
Speaker 1: strong on four to five corners right now, yeah, and
Speaker 1: only four safeties. The problem, the problem I have is
Speaker 1: I don't feel good enough about White, Ward, A Lumba,
Speaker 1: you know, Duke Thomas, maybe even did you keep Duke
Speaker 1: Thomas in your mind? Im? I'm trying to think if
Speaker 1: I did her in your mind? In my mind, would
Speaker 1: I keep Duke Thomas over the course of camp? He's
Speaker 1: been the best of that young guy. So what corner
Speaker 1: better than Marquez White? That's what I'm saying. They're starting
Speaker 1: to play. They're starting to play Ward a little bit
Speaker 1: more than that than that group of guys I just named,
Speaker 1: like he's separated Ward to separate himself from a Lumba,
Speaker 1: Thomas and White. Yes, I agree, he had a couple
Speaker 1: really good days in Oxnard. You kept him, that would
Speaker 1: be the fifth corner. Yeah, yeah, and then if you
Speaker 1: kept for sake to bring everybody up to speed, the
Speaker 1: four corners ahead of him are A Woozier, Jones, Brown,
Speaker 1: and Lewis true right, true? True? Now count count the
Speaker 1: safety and then the safeties. And I got to count
Speaker 1: Woods right, and you've honestly got two, right, Nathan Woods
Speaker 1: and Cavan. Well, yeah, there's three two that could play
Speaker 1: right now. Our fan pulse is on. Yeah. Now all right,
Speaker 1: we got polls going. I'll try to change them up
Speaker 1: as we go. Are you concerned about the safety position?
Speaker 1: The fans said eighty one percent said just a little
Speaker 1: bit right now. See, they want they want to trade
Speaker 1: for Earl Thomas right now. The fans don't want to
Speaker 1: go into the season. I get a lot of fans saying,
Speaker 1: you know, why would they not make the commitment? You know,
Speaker 1: shame on them for believing. Here goes. How can the
Speaker 1: Vikings go out and get a looka you know, and
Speaker 1: they have one of the best defenses in the league. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a playoff team. Do you need another strong safety? Though?
Speaker 1: Well no, they're I guess they're pointing out there, pointing
Speaker 1: did the Vikings need another Yeah? Did the Vikings need
Speaker 1: another se obviously? Yeah? Well, well Harrison Smith, and Andrews
Speaker 1: and Djoe whoever else? Yeah. See, I'm so locked into
Speaker 1: what's going on with this football team. I can't yet
Speaker 1: with the Vikings. I don't know if they've got an
Speaker 1: injury issue. You there. They may. By the way, I'm
Speaker 1: watching the Saints over your over your head a little bit,
Speaker 1: rob They don't look like they any extra offensive lineman
Speaker 1: giving up sacks and stuff. You know, the Providinals who
Speaker 1: will be at a and get ready for that, folks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe brings up another suff Okay, you're seeing the Cardinals
Speaker 1: sack the Saints a lot, who who apparently having reportedly
Speaker 1: have an abundant exactly what I'm saying, Bill, You played
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott absolutely not, absolutely not. No, I don't I
Speaker 1: think he's done. I think he has too. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: didn't sound like Jerry was playing on it, or if
Speaker 1: it were, you know, but his vote would be the
Speaker 1: city right to make. And by the way he does
Speaker 1: the signing of Geron Johnson figure into they're trying to
Speaker 1: get through the bodies, but you could have signed a
Speaker 1: body that wasn't Mickey, Did you talk twenty eight years old?
Speaker 1: Did you talk to the guy said he didn't think
Speaker 1: who was talked to? Oh, Brad Sham talked to him.
Speaker 1: He was coaching football. Oh yeah, he was ready, he
Speaker 1: was out out of football, he was done. He was
Speaker 1: guamash high school. Yeah, in in outside of Seattle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got the parity for Shard. That's the main reason
Speaker 1: why he's he's trying to get them through this game.
Speaker 1: But somebody told me, like I don't be surprised he
Speaker 1: makes this team, and I'm like going, how you know,
Speaker 1: how do you do that? How do you? I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess keep him instead of Tyree Robinson. I mean,
Speaker 1: right now, Robinson's the fourth Robinson had a nice interception, Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: he did, yes, And he showed up in the game
Speaker 1: the other day. They brought him down the box, he
Speaker 1: had a tackle right there at the point of attack.
Speaker 1: He had another tackle on the outside. It might be
Speaker 1: a little too late for him, but my gosh, he
Speaker 1: looks the party, look the part. On Jeron Johnson. Last
Speaker 1: year he played football. He signed August sixth with Jackson Jacksonville. Right.
Speaker 1: He was placed on injured reserve September first and released
Speaker 1: September eighth. Okay, so he's out of foot injury set.
Speaker 1: He was there, but he was basically not even in
Speaker 1: the off season program, right Jackson because the year he
Speaker 1: was there for three weeks during training camp. Much like
Speaker 1: what the Cowboys are asking him right now. Hey, the
Speaker 1: year before he was with Kansas City twenty sixteen. He
Speaker 1: was signed by Kansas City on August fifth, after the
Speaker 1: Redskins had released him on March seventh, so he was
Speaker 1: not in an offseason program. Signed with Kansas City August fifth,
Speaker 1: and was cut on September second, and was out of
Speaker 1: football all year. So he's been out of football for
Speaker 1: two years. I hadn't played any in basically three two
Speaker 1: and taking care of his kids. Yeah. So see this
Speaker 1: is this is just get me out of the seat,
Speaker 1: get me out of the preseason bit right now. Okay,
Speaker 1: so say say he's not in the conversation and either
Speaker 1: Huff or Tyree Robinson or the fourth savors. See that's
Speaker 1: the thing. First of fifth, if you were going to
Speaker 1: keep a fifth, yeah, we'll see that. I think they're
Speaker 1: only to keep four. Well that's how I got to nine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's because you've left a spot for Earl Thomas. We
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Speaker 1: funny though, Brad will do this too. I don't know
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Speaker 1: my replay off second was a long pass play, four
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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals who are coming to eighteen Stadium on Sunday. Sir,
Speaker 1: I had a question for y'all about I know everyone's
Speaker 1: freaking out about the safety position. Do you think that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys haven't really been in a hurry to address
Speaker 1: this because of how good and how deep our linebacker
Speaker 1: chorps is. Because we've got linebackers that can carry slot receivers.
Speaker 1: You know, we have, I mean linebackers who can go
Speaker 1: all throughout the field. And the only safety you really
Speaker 1: need is that ball hawking center fielder. And I've also
Speaker 1: noticed that we've been playing Jeffees is kind of a
Speaker 1: hybrid linebacker safety. There you go, good eye. So do
Speaker 1: you think that our strength and how deep we are
Speaker 1: at the linebacker position, with like Covington and Layton vanderish um.
Speaker 1: Is this a reason that we're not really in a
Speaker 1: hurry to go out and overspend for an average safety?
Speaker 1: And I'll get often I would like to know y'all's
Speaker 1: opinions about that. Thinking outside nothing wrong with that. The
Speaker 1: only problem is without Woods, Yeah, you don't have another
Speaker 1: really true free safety. They can play single safety hide
Speaker 1: that you would trust, you don't. Chris Roschard the other
Speaker 1: day was talking about how versatile Jeff is ability to
Speaker 1: do that's what they're doing now, They're gonna move him
Speaker 1: back and have this is this is where this is
Speaker 1: where I wish they wouldn't do that. This is why
Speaker 1: you wrote about this to I think that I think
Speaker 1: you're taking away a stream. Remember how JJ Wilcox used
Speaker 1: to play like in Richardson, you know, I mean like
Speaker 1: during the games, he would play so deep that they
Speaker 1: would just drive on everything in front and kind of
Speaker 1: keep things in front of him. I think he could
Speaker 1: probably do the same things with Cavon Fraser. Jeff Heath
Speaker 1: is such a valuable as that he's talking about that
Speaker 1: hybrid linebacker, his ability to cover down low, to come
Speaker 1: up and fill ball spills the outside. It's it's Smith
Speaker 1: it's Lee, it's Heath running to the ball. One of
Speaker 1: those three guys is going to make a tackle if
Speaker 1: that edge holds up, you know, and if you, if you,
Speaker 1: I don't know how many times Jeff Heath will be
Speaker 1: deep run up, deep run up, deep run up. I'm
Speaker 1: putting him in position he may play. He's that Heath
Speaker 1: seeking missile at safe. Wow. Wow, Dave Helmet in the house,
Speaker 1: late gentleman. I proved his story today. That I proved
Speaker 1: his story today. He wrote something that I had to
Speaker 1: reread like three times. You said that Jeff Heath's instincts
Speaker 1: around that box area is like a Sean Lee type. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's a big statement. He's got think about the plays
Speaker 1: he's made. Two plays he made this last game. It
Speaker 1: wasn't because he's so fast. He read it. He just
Speaker 1: reads it. He when you watch, when you watch him
Speaker 1: and you watch Lee and you watch Smith all run
Speaker 1: to the ball at the same time, it's like they're
Speaker 1: reading it together. Yeah, And I think that's Jeff Jeff
Speaker 1: Scott speak. Jeff could play as a free safety. Jeff
Speaker 1: Scott ranged it. But I think he's so because how
Speaker 1: many plays will he make playing that single high guy
Speaker 1: how many so as Jeff Heath the Cowboys Andrew Sendejoe.
Speaker 1: I think he's a faster, faster version of the guy finishes.
Speaker 1: He's a tackler. We've seen him saved the he saved
Speaker 1: the Raider game for you last year making a play
Speaker 1: out the middle of the field. So which which which is?
Speaker 1: But I hope that it doesn't take him out of
Speaker 1: that ability to make plays down low. That's why, that's
Speaker 1: why I worry out. But here's the thing. If this
Speaker 1: works out, like maybe they think it's going to you
Speaker 1: go one week like this, oh, and then their hope
Speaker 1: is they get Xavier back. The problem is it's a
Speaker 1: hamstring and you just don't see that. You don't know.
Speaker 1: No one's got a gun to your head that you
Speaker 1: have to probably sorry, how much no one? No one
Speaker 1: is making you play single safety high there you go?
Speaker 1: How much that is a fair point, all right? If
Speaker 1: you're looking at Xavier Woods and you feel like he's
Speaker 1: gonna be back one hundred percent or close to it
Speaker 1: by the Giants game, but maybe not the Carolina game.
Speaker 1: How much is the first opponent factor into any roster
Speaker 1: decisions that that you're making the type offense that Carolina running. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a great question. And it's a great question because
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think. I haven't even looked at Carolina yet.
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you. And I need I need to
Speaker 1: Anderson back to replace. And they got McCaffrey. You throw
Speaker 1: him a screen. It's a nightmare. You know all that stuff.
Speaker 1: You need tacklers right play Carolina, you better be able
Speaker 1: to tak You would want Heath in that position to
Speaker 1: be able? Yes, I want I want him next to
Speaker 1: because if if Smith's not gonna make the play, if
Speaker 1: Lee's not gonna make the play, I think Heath will
Speaker 1: make the play. And then you got the running threat
Speaker 1: with a quarterback too. And again Cincinnati, they played a
Speaker 1: lot of four four three formation too, with Heath up
Speaker 1: as a fourth alignement. I just don't you talk coaches
Speaker 1: talk about putting players in position to make plays. Please
Speaker 1: do that with Jeff Heath. Please do that with Jeff Heath.
Speaker 1: I beg you, please, I do. I beg because I
Speaker 1: don't want to see a player's talent be wasted. And
Speaker 1: not that he can't play, but how many times does
Speaker 1: the free safety making a play and that single high
Speaker 1: look it's how about Xavier Woods. It's the first time
Speaker 1: we saw Xavier Woods make a play on the ball, actually,
Speaker 1: and he got hurt twice in the same game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but but what's he do? He plays deep, he runs,
Speaker 1: he plays deep, he runs, he plays deep, he runs.
Speaker 1: He missed a tackle, you know, Yeah, I mean that
Speaker 1: that happens. But I just please don't let thirty eight
Speaker 1: just die out there just running up the piles all day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's good point. He's the poor man's Day on Buchanan,
Speaker 1: who you'll see Sunday night as well, forever. Very talented guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: where like a second round pick? No he was, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was, he was. But he's at Washington State and
Speaker 1: he was terrible, a terrible safety, and they played his
Speaker 1: like a hybrid linebacker. It's really good. Where did he
Speaker 1: go to high school? Can't give you that one, all right?
Speaker 1: Other things that you saw out of practice looking at
Speaker 1: the coaches film yesterday that Terence Dallas, right, Terrence Williams,
Speaker 1: Terence Williams with a nice I tell you what he bullied.
Speaker 1: He bullied Byron Jones a little bit to get inside
Speaker 1: on that slant. You know, that's something we always talk
Speaker 1: about Terrence, And what Terrence had to do was ball
Speaker 1: was a little high because the snap was a little off.
Speaker 1: Dad grabbed the snap and then fired the ball, but
Speaker 1: the ball was high. Terrence had to adjust hands overhead.
Speaker 1: How many times have we seen him run a slant,
Speaker 1: it's on the body and it's intercepted. Mickey loves to
Speaker 1: go that, ah, the ball's clanging off him. You know,
Speaker 1: Michael Gallop doesn't do that though. You know what signed
Speaker 1: Jay Law was working with him on catching his hands.
Speaker 1: I am telling you what. He extended his hands over
Speaker 1: his head. I saw that that was a good thing.
Speaker 1: We talked about Robinson's Night's interception. How about a Woozier's
Speaker 1: play down the sidelines. He cut speaking to that, Mickey
Speaker 1: probably got that in your notes. He cuts Gallop off.
Speaker 1: I mean he stay, Dak tries to look him off.
Speaker 1: Dak is looking everything to his left and then fires
Speaker 1: back to the right. And a Woozier keeps running with
Speaker 1: Gallop down that sideline and puts himself in position. Gallops
Speaker 1: stumbles a little bit and boom, Ball's intercepted right there.
Speaker 1: So those are really good things I wrote, go ahead,
Speaker 1: go ahead. I wrote about the thing I thought with
Speaker 1: Covington was on the first team. But Micky says, we
Speaker 1: got restroom breaks, So that's okay with that. How about
Speaker 1: some of the heat that the d line brought yesterday.
Speaker 1: I think we had sacks from to Marcus Lawrence taking Charlton.
Speaker 1: I think it's two days in a row. He's seeing
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith gets sent on a blitz and he gets home.
Speaker 1: I mean they were guys that are quick, gets quick
Speaker 1: to the ball. Yeah. I think with the linebacker blitz
Speaker 1: like Zeke will not block them. Zeke will just kind
Speaker 1: of get over to him and then but the linebackers
Speaker 1: have gotten pretty good about just stopping they He picked
Speaker 1: up one good one yesterday on that deep ball, made
Speaker 1: the over the headcake and they ran, Hey, how about
Speaker 1: this guy. It's a little creative. You know, everybody's kind
Speaker 1: of complaining about they're not creative with the routes they run.
Speaker 1: They run a McKay inside, bigger body guy. They run
Speaker 1: him inside to pick Anthony Brown. They get the pick
Speaker 1: and they get the ball up the sidelines to Lance Lenore.
Speaker 1: You know that right there? Okay that people always say,
Speaker 1: you know, Joe and Flower Mountains a big oh they're
Speaker 1: no creative. If they don't run picks, why don't they
Speaker 1: do well? They ran one yesterday and Prescott hit it
Speaker 1: with Lenora down the sideline. So you know we're starting
Speaker 1: to see that name. I'm with you once. Okay, six guys,
Speaker 1: sixth guy or seventh guy. I'm not keeping seven receivers.
Speaker 1: I don't care what you guys say. But one of them,
Speaker 1: not Lock. I'm not doing that man, all right, a Brown,
Speaker 1: I'm not keeping him. So Lex, we're gonna and Tavon
Speaker 1: Austin hasn't returned to practice yet. No, no, so Thompson neither.
Speaker 1: We're going to assumes the fight. That's where the fight's
Speaker 1: gonna be. Right. We'll see if Sanjia Low have a
Speaker 1: bit of a stick he's got because if you remember,
Speaker 1: Thompson showed up in the early part of practice and
Speaker 1: then he got hurt. I mean he was working with
Speaker 1: the first team. He surely was. He might be their
Speaker 1: fastest receiver. I would give it to Tavon, but he's
Speaker 1: right there. This is where this team. Sorry, Bill, you
Speaker 1: keep one to take a breath, and I'm gonna just
Speaker 1: keep talking. But the thing about what they are going
Speaker 1: to throw the ball down the field to keep teams
Speaker 1: honest from stack in the box. That's what they're gonna do.
Speaker 1: They're gonna try and hit those passes down the field
Speaker 1: and loosen these teams up. I think you gotta do
Speaker 1: is hit one. Hit one's hit one. And the other
Speaker 1: thing to remember as we cut down the roster is
Speaker 1: if indeed you got to say, an injured player like
Speaker 1: Deonte Thompson who's going to be back, let's say in
Speaker 1: a month, but you're and you're thinking, okay, could he
Speaker 1: be an injured reserve to return guy, he's got to
Speaker 1: be on that fifty three man roster right first? Initially,
Speaker 1: all right, let me ask you this because of and
Speaker 1: Nikki doesn't think about David Irban and I don't. Mickey's
Speaker 1: not wrong there, But do you have to keep the
Speaker 1: extra defensive lineman? Is that why he's keeping ten because
Speaker 1: he knows he's gonna it's the tenth lineman gonna get
Speaker 1: cut when David Irban comes back, I think, or they're
Speaker 1: going to be injuries. There's quality there, That's what I
Speaker 1: was asking. More quality, more quality a wide receiver, or
Speaker 1: more quality at defensive back, or more quality at defensive
Speaker 1: line like you said, defensive line, defensive back or wide receiver.
Speaker 1: What because those are the positions. It's not like here
Speaker 1: you go heavy in? Am I right wrong? I think
Speaker 1: you got to think about quality more on the D
Speaker 1: line because Rod's gonna play all those guys wide receiver.
Speaker 1: I mean, we talk about Lance Lenor, but is he
Speaker 1: gonna ddress on game day? Think you might return punts,
Speaker 1: kicks something like that. I'm with Bill, I'm trading. I
Speaker 1: traded for table on Austin for that. Okay, I'm not
Speaker 1: I understand where you're going there. Who's who's your fifty
Speaker 1: fourth player? Then what positions your fifty fourth guy? Is
Speaker 1: it defensive back? So whoever the fifty fourth? If you
Speaker 1: if if the NFL said no, Mickey, you cannot go
Speaker 1: with fifty four. You have to Can I go with fifty?
Speaker 1: Where can I keep it an extra one? Yeah? Where
Speaker 1: you know you can't keep an next one? Give me
Speaker 1: who what position is the fifty fourth guy? See, it's
Speaker 1: either gonna be wide receiver. Let's say, if they're gonna
Speaker 1: be defensive line or wide receiver. Yeah, because I've only
Speaker 1: kept three three tight ends, okay, or two this is
Speaker 1: or quarterback you're not gonna You're not gonna play leave
Speaker 1: that's gonna happen. You're not gonna play with all those
Speaker 1: wide receivers. You're gonna play with those defensive line. That's
Speaker 1: where Rob's right. All right, guys, gameboy call? Would you
Speaker 1: keep two quarterbacks or three? Forget what they would do?
Speaker 1: What would you do? I would keep three? Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: so that's out of the equals hard, but I would
Speaker 1: keep three. Did you keep two running backs? Just too?
Speaker 1: Just too? The only way I'm keeping two running running
Speaker 1: is hurt two running backs one fullback. You could we
Speaker 1: answered a mailback question on this the other day. If
Speaker 1: you get here and Tammy Scarbough can make it under
Speaker 1: the practice squad, Yeah, really White who has a better chance?
Speaker 1: Oh wait, Scarborough makes it to the practice squad in
Speaker 1: my opinion, or Mike White, who doesn't make it the
Speaker 1: practice squad? Um, Scarborough does not make it to the
Speaker 1: practice squad. Realistically round he Mike White would get picked
Speaker 1: up eventually? What round? What round did Scarborough get selected? Sorry?
Speaker 1: Seventh round? Realistic? Gilly, And I'm just looking at injuries
Speaker 1: around the league at the running back position. How many carries?
Speaker 1: How many Carries is the third running back and a
Speaker 1: get this season. See that's the point I'm trying to make.
Speaker 1: So like it comes down to me though, who who's
Speaker 1: gonna help you out? Okay, what happens if your first
Speaker 1: running back gets hurt, Well that's an issue, but maybe
Speaker 1: you just gotta go out. That's my guy. Do you
Speaker 1: rather you got you got, you gotta get Jackson? Or
Speaker 1: when I have Jackson with those guys in your practice squad?
Speaker 1: Yeah right, You know what, we don't get paid enough
Speaker 1: to make these decisions, but it's sure fun making the
Speaker 1: decision for them because we don't have to pay the
Speaker 1: pen over there. Try all right? That doesn't for talking Cowboys.
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