WEBVTT - #197 - Dvsn 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.560 Bulet Cap show special guests in the building. We have 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:06.360 division ladies and general Well, first of all, I want 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:10.880 to say on behalf of men all over the place 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:14.360 that aren't to me because I can't relate to this 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:17.200 particular record, and while you're speaking on the behalf, because 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:20.680 I have friends who relate strongly to this record strong 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:25.759 This record is very, very appreciated by the male demographic 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:29.159 in the world. Is this something that you guys, I mean, 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:31.640 obviously personal experience you went through and you're like, yo, 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:34.680 this is how come we don't have one of these? Yeah? 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:37.360 I mean, I mean tell us how much of a 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:41.400 piece of shit you are? Honestly, the record is not 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:44.080 It's not what you guys are taking it as first 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:47.160 and foremost. Well, I mean, the hook is very factual. 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:49.720 Though everything in the record is fact What I'm saying, like, 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:53.240 I just I mean, I don't love you, right, because 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:55.880 when you break it down, cheating is not about that. 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:58.720 For a lot of people when they're cheating, it's men specifically, 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:02.000 A lot of men specifically to it, right, correct. But 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:04.040 we've heard from women too, and there's a lot of 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:07.319 girls that are like yo, I I kind of just 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:10.560 wanted to go out there and fuck, or I got 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:12.120 you know, I got caught up in this situation. Or 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:15.360 I felt low about myself. I wanted to feel sexy again, 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:17.319 and this person over here made me feel that way. 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:19.759 You know, I didn't stop loving my person the moment 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:22.000 the moment I was finished, I felt like, fuck, what 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:24.560 did I just? Do? You know that that feeling? So 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:27.560 I've I've been on. I think we've both been on, 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:29.800 probably both sides of that that fence. What do you 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:32.600 guys have cheated and been cheated on? I think I've 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:34.080 been cheated on. I'm not. I don't have the you 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:36.640 don't know for sure, then you don't know. See, I 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:41.120 don't know, but it looks, it looks, it looks suspect. Yes, 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:44.160 I had a god awful, terrible dumpster fire of a 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:47.720 human being as a baby mother. So shout out to hers. 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:52.559 She's a fucking terrible person. She's somewhere probably doing heroin 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:54.960 right now. I don't know I have that, bitch. I 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:59.160 have my son. This only matters anyway. Uh So, yeah, 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:03.200 So like, who was this your idea? Okay, so let 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:06.320 me wreak it down. We have been working on this 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:09.920 album with Jermain dupri real closely. Darn b god, there 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:13.640 your salute? What up? Ja d We walked into the 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:20.480 studio and he's literally opens the door singing that chorus 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:26.040 opens and I mean, I don't love you. And I 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:29.640 was like what And I was like, oh my god, 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:32.080 that's exactly what I want to say in life. And 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:35.880 I was like, I've never heard somebody just say it was. 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:38.520 So it's put so simply, but it's a it's a 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:43.840 deep thought. And so we walk in. Brian Michael Cox 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:48.440 is already messing around with legendary Yeah, yeah, already just 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:52.440 you know, he's going at it. Nineteen has the idea 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:56.320 to be like, yo, what if we flip some of 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:58.200 our old ideas where we used to put like girl 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:02.560 choirs on stuff and make it men a whole bunch 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:04.920 of guys this time. So that way it can you know, 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:07.640 help express that this isn't This is a thought that 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:10.560 seemed that feels universal, right, A lot of people can 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:12.880 relate to this. So I thought that was genius, and 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:15.160 I sat down and I wrote this. These verses. Now, 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:22.480 these verses have been highly taken out of perspective. I 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:27.880 think on people's first maybe second a little misunderstanding about 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:33.240 the meeting. Yes, yeah, So I'm writing about a guy 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:37.120 that's in a relationship where his partner starts to feel 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:40.160 like maybe they're cheating on them. And I'm writing this 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:43.400 from the perspective of someone who's like, yo, everything you, 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:46.480 everything that attracted you to me, is now turned into 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:49.920 your insecurities. Right. That happens a lot, happens a lot 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:54.320 guys and girls. Right. So it's like you you liked 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:58.400 me for who I was, for being fly, for being 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:02.040 a good looking dude, for being and you know, funny, cool, whatever, 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:04.000 all these things. But now because as soon as I 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:11.360 leave the crib, yeah, exactly exactly, you're going, where are 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:13.400 you going? You know all you're going over there. Oh 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:15.760 you're gonna ah, You're gonna be talking and all these 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:18.400 these holes faces. You gotta be the life of the party. 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:20.640 It's like, you met me this way, you liked me 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:23.400 because of these things. You always liked being around my energy, 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:25.039 all these things like that, and now it's turn into this. 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:28.280 Now you're digging through phones and you know, checking Instagram 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:31.719 followers and all that stuff like that. So that's the 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:33.680 perspective that I'm writing about it. So people hear me 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:36.160 say I'm a fly nigga when you got here, charismatic 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:38.479 when you got here, and they're thinking, oh, he's telling 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:40.760 the girls like he was fly. You should have already 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:42.599 know I'm gonna be fucking these holes or something. But 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:44.120 it's like, that's not what I was saying. I was 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:47.200 saying I was these things. And now, well, that's also 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:49.480 a very important thing to convey because a lot of 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:51.919 people feel that way. What that I was flying already 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:55.560 the hose. No, that when you get into a relationship, 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:57.720 like you said, it always happens, whether it's the guy 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:00.960 or the girl. When you think about it, a lot 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:03.479 of dudes will meet to chicken the club, who's fucking beautiful, 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:05.840 fucking ass out whatever, and it's like, well, that's how 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:07.960 you met this girl, that's what attracted you to her. 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:10.560 Now that you cuffed her, like, you can't get mad, 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:14.480 she's going out with her homegirls exactly. So that's that's 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:16.200 the perspective I wrote the verses from. And then I 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:19.800 was like, it gets into the idea of Okay, so 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:22.120 now you're now you're doing the dig into the phone shit. 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:25.839 Are you trying to find a problem or are you 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:28.720 trying to find an actual reason to leave, and then 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:32.280 comes the because, and why would why would you want 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:36.320 to leave? When even if hypothetically I was to cheat 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:38.279 on you, it wouldn't be because all of a sudden 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:40.440 I just lost my feelings for you and I don't 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:42.960 love you anymore. It would be probably because I just 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:47.320 did something super selfish, super self indulgent, super you know, 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:51.480 me being addiction, asshole, short sighted, you know, stroking my ego, 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:53.640 all these other things. And I think that's the miss 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:56.640 a big misconception with people about why people cheat, and 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:58.200 that's why we wanted to bring it to the table. 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:03.720 It's usually not about the other person, especially with guys. 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:06.800 Sometimes sometimes you hear women say you know that, you 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:09.560 know that they only did it because there's a lack 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:12.840 of something or a void or emotional disconnect whatever, and 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:14.600 we're getting something in their relationship they want to go 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:17.279 find it. But guys, especially a lot of guys, I 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:20.080 know girls too, but a lot of guys commonly we 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:23.440 can hear that, yo, they have the girl they want 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:27.080 right there. This is just literally had nothing to do 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:30.920 with them. I mean, if you think about, like all 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:34.440 of the halle Berry has been cheated on, you know 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:36.560 what I'm saying, Like girls say that, he goes like, 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:38.320 how do you cheat on this person? And every guy 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:43.560 gets it. Honestly, I think we're guys. The more you 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:47.840 have that you actually wanted, the less you feel inclined 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:51.200 to stay because we're used to chasing, so we're used 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:53.560 to looking for the other things. So if you actually 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:56.080 have everything at home, I feel like there's a twisted 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:58.120 thing that happens and guys where they start being like 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:00.760 something's missing, like I missed the chair, me I'm not 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:04.200 doing what my what I feel like my nature just 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:07.440 pushes me do or the rape or you know, and 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:10.360 mind you it's it's not something that we can't control. 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:12.280 It's something that we can't just say no to. But 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:15.880 it's something that a lot of people fall into, right 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:18.880 And I don't think that when they do. It's talked 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:22.160 about enough that a lot of times it's not because 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:25.680 they just don't love you anymore. It's because of some 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:28.600 other issues that they probably got to work out. Maybe 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:30.880 they maybe they need to feel more desired, Maybe their 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:32.760 self esteems a little lower and the cell they boost 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:35.320 it this is an ego thing. Maybe this is maybe 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:37.960 they haven't. I don't know whatever. It is, just you know, 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:41.160 addiction to the chase, like you're saying so, and women 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:43.480 at times have an addiction to chasing down your phone 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:45.400 and trying to just find something to fight about even 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:48.480 if you're not cheating, right, and so that is really 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:52.560 I like that. I like when you know, use what's 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:55.680 going on here to shoot out there. Yeah, but nah, 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:01.600 I really feel like I really feel like that's the 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:05.400 conversation that we wanted to put on the table and 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:08.120 know that we wanted people to let's talk about it, yeah, 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:10.880 because no one wants to talk about it. Everyone wants 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:13.760 to act so like it's so taboo. And I think 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:15.760 that that's what made the record really go, and it's 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:19.760 making the record really go, is the fact that it's 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:26.040 so real and it's like Hella underserved niche of that. 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:28.440 Like in R and B, you know what I'm saying, Like, 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:30.200 I feel like we don't have like an anthem like 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:32.680 that there's never been and men enjoy R and B. 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:35.000 I love R and B. And you know, I feel 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:37.600 like there's so much scorned woman music. Yeah, there's not 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:41.960 many songs that I feel like speak to this demographic 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:44.280 that's embraced it so well, just like every man in 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:49.400 the world except me obviously. Yeah. So the Jermaine Depris thing. 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:52.800 Obviously JD one of the greatest producers of all time, 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:54.680 but specifically when it comes to the R and B shit, 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:57.360 he's I mean, I don't know, man, he might be 0:08:57.480 --> 0:08:59.600 the goat, you know. I mean you think of confessions 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:05.520 and shit, JD's that motherfucker. What was the initial like, uh, 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:08.760 link up with JD and like having him handle a 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:11.360 lot of the reins on the project. It wasn't supposed 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:14.760 to be that. On first meet up, we're really just 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:19.040 meeting our management team, just set up, you know, me 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:21.480 going through to go say what up to him? Right me, 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:26.120 Jermain Duprie, And you know, fast forward two three days 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:30.240 and it's like, yo, we're together every day, right and 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:33.120 we talk every day. You know. The relationships turned from 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:36.280 hero to you know, big bro shit. Yeah. You know, like, 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:37.959 I don't think it's a day that goes by we're 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:40.600 not calling or texting about whatever it is. You know, 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:42.560 at this point, what is something that you guys learned 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:46.280 creatively from j D? Because you know, when you're like 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:48.400 that prolific, I feel like I'm sure a lot of 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:50.360 the stuff he does just seems like effortlessly, but at 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:53.040 the end of the day, you could probably grab from Oh. 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:56.640 I think it is that though everything he does seems 0:09:56.679 --> 0:10:00.160 so effortless that when we're with him, he's always he's 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:02.480 telling us we're thinking too hard. You'd be the first 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:04.120 to be like, bro, you're thinking about this way too hard. 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:06.120 If you haven't got it by now, either move on 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:09.280 or it's that thing right there. So that's his like 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:12.520 hit formula. He can tell you in like ten seconds, Yeah, 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:15.040 that's going to go that that's not the one. It's 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:18.040 the craziest thing with him, and it really shows in 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:21.240 this record because what I like to say that I 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:25.400 think he's great at is is real genius. And what 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:28.920 I mean by that is there's a level of genius 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:35.040 that I think that is for intellectual people to catch, 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:38.160 but I think there's another higher tier where even if 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:41.960 you're not smart, you still recognize the genius right, And 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:44.480 he's a way that finds a way of making everything 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:47.760 genius so simple, well, like a kid to get it right. Yeah, 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:51.240 And that's what I'm saying. He's his records supposed to 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:54.000 be palatable to everybody they should be right exactly so, 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:56.520 and I think that we've always I think that's something 0:10:56.559 --> 0:11:01.680 that we really have always used some of that because 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:05.439 I think sometimes we've made like almost higher intellectual R 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:07.080 and B. Even in this it's just like we gotta 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:09.959 we gotta think, oh, we really listen to intelligence sometimes 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:13.280 the music from from our perspective. And I think he 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:16.839 was very clear with us about like, Yo, whatever you 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:20.080 guys have been doing is beautiful music, but let's make 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:22.320 things that kind of go across the board. Like people 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:25.080 need to understand it on the most basic level. They 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:26.600 don't need to be able to they don't have to 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:28.520 like break it down to be like, well, this this 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:31.240 and this happened. That's why tied into this line over here. 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:34.080 You know it sometimes if someone just can just stop 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:37.400 you and just be like, yo, exactly what you said there, 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:39.920 Just leave it like that. He's great at that and 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:42.800 not overthinking it exactly. And he's like, Yo, for the 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:45.160 spot in R and B that you want to go 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:48.400 take and that I can see that you you have 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:51.240 what it takes to go take that. This is the 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:53.400 way to go. It's like no different than like you know, 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:55.800 like I don't know Kendrick Lamar and like Section eighty, 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:57.920 which is fucking one of my favorite Kendric projects. Right, 0:11:57.920 --> 0:11:59.960 But then on Good Kymad City, he like puts some 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:02.160 like hit, he puts some thought into, like you know, 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:05.440 some hits. I guess he took it. Oh my god, 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:08.600 he took away further for sure, like to pimp a Butterfly. 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:12.080 He said, fuck it, I'm doing me. Damn, he got 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:13.680 to it, you know what. I'm sure, by the way, 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:16.960 that's my Butterfly is my favorite Countrick album for the record, Yes, 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:19.680 but uh yeah, how do you guys like the new 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:25.959 Kendrick album. I think it's such a like beautiful piece 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:29.200 of art that I only feel like he can play 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:31.319 it in specific moments, Like I don't feel like he 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:33.120 can played it at all times. I have to like 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:35.560 be ready to just like you know, I felt like 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:38.599 that for about a week and now it's like it 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:40.600 just Rich Spirit. I just like can throw that ship 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:46.040 on work out, like definitely Rich Savior. There's some ship 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:47.800 on there. There's some ship. I feel like when it 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:50.040 first came out, I was kind of like, damn, what 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:51.680 do I like? Bang though, you know what I'm saying. 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:54.560 But now I'm like going back. I listen to that 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:56.280 ship a lot. I listen that shit when I work out. 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:58.200 That's why if I could, if I could work out 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:00.240 to your ship, I feel like I could hear on 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:02.160 like on the radio or like hear it in the car. 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:04.120 You know what I'm saying. But I feel like you 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:06.920 gotta say it's I feel like, more than most albums 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:08.760 in the last four or five years, you gotta really 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:11.120 like and you get I feel like it gets better 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:14.320 every time you listen to it. I'm sure as yeah. 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:18.640 I mean so, you guys also, did was it last 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:20.760 year you did the Tied ALTI side project? Last year 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:22.959 we did a mix tape with Tie. Shout out to 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:27.160 Tie one of the greats. You guys have two albums 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:30.880 out correct, and we just dropped our third up before that, 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:37.000 before the Tie Ship. I always feel like with the 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:38.880 OVO thing, right, It's like, do you ever feel like 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:40.920 that there's like a gift in a curse of being 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:42.760 with Ovo because at the end of the day, Drake 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:44.319 is the biggest artist in the world. He's one of 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:49.040 the most talented artists in the world, and I feel 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:52.560 like I appreciate his ear for who he signs to 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:55.800 the label because there's always like high I mean, I 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:59.800 wouldn't say always, but for the most part high artistic integrity. 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:01.880 When I think of like Majia Jordan and you guys, 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:07.840 I feel like he also is allowing people to develop, 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:09.920 Like artist development is like a real thing at OVO, 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:12.600 if that makes sense. But at the same time, that 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:15.840 takes time. And when you're signed to Drake, people probably 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:18.320 expect you to just come out swinging with like, you know, 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:20.960 fucking hit records and Drake features and all this shit. 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:26.200 You know, people look at his what he does for 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:29.560 features and what he does for the label as two 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:31.960 separate things, and they expect the same things. I think 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:34.640 it's different. I think him jumping on a record versus 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:37.520 him signing you, his mental approach to that is just 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:40.080 completely different. I think like he might find a record 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:42.240 and be cool, I'm gonna just hop on this wave, 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:45.720 come on, come on there, drop this, drop this, elevate 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.200 this record, and they call it the Drake Stimmy package. Yeah, 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:50.840 the stimmy right. Yes. Whereas I think with artists that 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:54.160 he's involved with, you know, the business of signing, I 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:58.480 think that he likes to be like this person's dope, 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:02.560 give them, give them what they need. This person's dope, 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:05.920 you know, give them what they need, versus the approach 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:07.920 that he takes when it's just like I'm jumping on 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:10.200 a run, right, I just feel like it's like dope 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:13.400 because you'll see like artist development happening at Ouvio, Like 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:15.160 you know what I'm saying, Like, it's not always like 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:17.600 the cheat code is like let me just get on 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:20.480 a song knowing what that's going to do. That's also 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:23.560 the easiest way for people to fail. I mean, if 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:28.000 you take an artist that's not in the drake position, 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:35.920 you give them the drake and then and insert name 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:40.720 here who's no longer relevant exactly, you know. And that's 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:44.920 why we've always been really appreciative of the way that 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:48.480 he's embraced things and let us kind of develop on 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:52.560 our own path figure that out. And the same time, 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:55.520 like we still can go back and forth with records 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:58.400 or ideas, and that's how we ended up on the 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:01.960 Views album. More. That's how he's had songs that he's 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:03.440 written and he'll throw to us and be like, yo, 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:04.840 what do you think of this record? You want to 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:07.040 do something with it? Or you know, and there's always 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:09.480 been that freedom, but there's never the pressure to feel like, 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:12.880 you guys don't have to do the Drake way of 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:15.840 doing so, you don't have to do it the way 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:21.160 the traditional like label process would be. Not only that, 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:23.880 but I think it helps every artist on the label 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:30.120 kind of own own their brand, right. That's smart, Yeah, 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:32.600 because I think that division like we have our we 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:36.640 definitely have our own brand and your own following, following 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:40.840 our fans. It's independent of everything, independent of anything. So 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:44.640 I love that we've been able to to have the 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:47.280 space to do that and to be you know, successful 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:49.400 in doing that. What was his reaction when you heard 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:51.680 this record? We haven't. We haven't talked to anybody since 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:56.680 we dropped Jesus bro. We literally in the tunnels just 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:59.280 trying to get this album done so justice over there 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:03.760 is and kill us. But we literally haven't talked to 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:06.879 anybody sent you know, we don't. We literally locked in 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:10.600 the studio, cooked up and popped our head out to 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:13.000 drop this and even this record. Why we popped our 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:15.640 head up to drop this is because we've been inviting 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:19.320 people to the studio just to you know, hear things, 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:22.960 and every time we played that record, the whole room 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:26.520 burst into argument for like half an hour an hour time, 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:29.359 so we're like, Yo, what is happening? And every guy 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:32.800 felt like liberated. Some women are like, yeah, you know what, 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:34.600 I get that. You know it's honest. Some girls like, oh, 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:37.760 it's a bop. Some girls are like, man, I'm triggered. 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:41.480 You know, I'm mad, you know, And we're just like, Yo, 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:44.440 what is happening. This has never happened with a song 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:46.879 like this, and so because of that, we just we 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:48.680 got to get this thing out. This is also the 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:51.920 first album that we've done outside of Toronto. You guys 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:57.080 do were you guys doing in Atlanta? It's amazing. Whose 0:17:57.080 --> 0:17:59.320 idea was? It was your idea? JD's idea to sample 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:01.480 Jay to the jay z is both of us, because 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:06.760 me and JD were joking about how ridiculous that line. 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:09.080 It's like, Yo, that's a crazy line. What if we 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:10.480 use it? And then I was like, I don't really 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:12.360 think I can do that. He's like, Wow, I don't 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:14.600 think we're to get that cleared. He's like, I'll handle 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:17.080 the clear and stuff. You just sample however, you see, 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:19.040 like how you see that fitting in the record, And 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:21.920 I'll do the rest and he did he took care 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:25.080 of Hope cleared it. Hope cleared it. I mean, and 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:27.840 it's it's it's cool because I saw I actually saw 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:31.720 the like I think the chext conversation or whatever that 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:33.400 that came out about Whole Clear, and I didn't hear 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:36.280 the record yet, So when I heard it, I was like, oh, ship, 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:41.760 they use that and it's perfect for the for the song. Yeah, 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:45.600 it works. It was message because again to say something 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:47.840 like that, you know again you're you're in your full 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:50.359 ego at that moment to be able to tell somebody 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:53.480 like it was just I was just doing that, like 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:57.639 I was coming right back and thinking that that's what percentage. 0:18:57.680 --> 0:18:59.520 Are we done with the album or is it done 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:05.160 or is it like you guys get on the album. 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:08.600 I mean, you're gonna have to wait and see on 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:11.560 the remix at least yeo. I said you're gonna have 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:16.320 to wait and see. It feels like yeah, yeah you 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:18.040 said yeah, because the usher it feels like it's a 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:23.879 nice connection there. M hmm yeah yeah, what about the 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:27.080 Brat I'm just kidding that would be random as you 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:30.439 just have like the SOSO based All Stars like on 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:32.480 like the last song. You know what I mean, record 0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:38.600 seen like bone Crusher a little Bow. Wow, she no, 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:43.800 she's just like this record is so fire. Bra Functified 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:49.280 was incredible shoutouts. Yeah, so first album outside of Toronto, right, 0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:51.359 or just Canada in general? What part are you? Guys? 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:54.480 Both from Toronto? From Toronto? I keep hearing about Toronto. 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:56.880 I hear it's amazing, man, you to come. I heard. 0:19:56.920 --> 0:20:00.000 It's like, yeah, I heard it's a vibe. Yeah. Everybody 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:02.320 I know from you guys are just the nicest people. 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:06.200 Canadians are just so sweet. Man. I don't know one 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:08.400 dickhead is a Canadian. Now, you guys probably do because 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:10.960 you're from there. All the Canadians I come into context 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:13.919 seem to be sweet guys. Yeah, what is it? Why 0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:18.879 is that? I don't think that's accurate? Well, why is it? 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:21.600 I just feel like, is it because there's like fucking 0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:26.760 you know, uh, free healthcare, less distress about less aggressive 0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:29.240 people in general? Yeah? I think that you guys call 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:33.520 ham Canadian bacon. There's no Canadian bacon is a certain type, 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:37.919 not a Papa John's. You get that Papa John's. You say, hey, 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:39.800 we got Canadian bacon, and it comes in, it's hawn. 0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:41.520 I know a lot of people. I gotta say this 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:43.399 because Church Toronto people will see this. I know a 0:20:43.440 --> 0:20:47.760 lot of Toronto people that feel the complete opposite about 0:20:48.080 --> 0:20:52.320