WEBVTT - Thinking Sideways: Brandon Swanson 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.680 Thinking Sideways is not supported by Cracks dot com. Instead, 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:06.760 it's supported by the generous donations of our listeners on Patreon. 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:09.840 Visit patreon dot com slash thinking sideways to learn more 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:20.840 and thanks Thinking Sideways. I don't know. You never know 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:28.240 stories of things we simply don't know the answer too. 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:34.680 Hey there, welcome to another episode of Thinking Sideways. I'm Joe, 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:39.440 joined us always by Devin and Steve, and this week 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:41.919 we're going to talk about another cool mystery. This of 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:44.640 course the last of our summer series where we talk 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:48.720 about mysteries that are kind of crappy, not really, actually 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:50.839 this is this is actually a pretty good little mystery, 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:54.040 but it's a little bit. Then we are going to 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:56.680 debate it a little bit and we might have a 0:00:56.680 --> 0:00:59.760 few insights for you. Who knows. Okay, what we're talking 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:04.039 about out this week is the disappearance of Brandon Swanson. Uh. 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:08.520 He was resident of Marshall, Minnesota. Disappeared in two thousand eight. 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:11.520 I first came across the mystery and Cracked dot com. 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:15.000 It was an article about phone call mysteries and I 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:17.720 really can't top their introduction, which is great, So I'm 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:19.880 gonna quote it here in two thousand and eight, nineteen 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:22.680 year old college student Brandon Swanson was driving home after 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:24.840 a night out when he crashed into a ditch on 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:28.160 a gravel road in the middle of nowhere in Minnesota. 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:30.480 He knew as well as us that this was a 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:33.240 classic horror movie set up, so we called his parents 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:36.120 and asked for a ride. Unquote, thanks Crack dot com. 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:39.199 I really appreciate the heads up on this period. Yeah, 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:41.520 they are, they're they're actually they actually come up with 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:43.680 some really good stuff. I love Cracked. Um. I should 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:46.080 also give a shout out to Dustin and Diana who 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:50.240 suggested this as well. Everybody. I think a lot of 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:54.240 other people have to just sometimes stopped after two or three. Yeah. Yeah, 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:57.400 the list of names is actually bigger than the description 0:01:57.400 --> 0:01:59.960 of the mystery. Yeah, and there's only so much room 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:03.440 the spreadsheet. Yeah and so and so all the rest 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:05.680 that there is a finite number of rosen columns that 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:07.520 you can have on a spreadsheet. Yeah. This this is 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:10.400 a very popular mystery. Um. You know, I actually I 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:13.800 talked to a local Minnesota reporter about this last week, 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:17.680 and she said she's that her to her third and 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:21.160 fourth most clicked on articles are articles about Brendon Swanson. 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:25.080 And she says it's really strange too, because because she 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:27.079 says it'll go along and nothing will happen, all of 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:29.639 a sudden, just the clicks just shoot up bam. And 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:33.600 I just said, well, what happens. I know what happened? 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:36.520 Is that generation why? Or maybe read it or somebody 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:39.560 posted something about it, and then bam, your clicks are 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:43.280 going to go. Wait all yeah, yeah, you promised to 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:46.040 to link to one of our articles for actually I 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:48.640 actually I did, I said, And she's and she actually 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:51.239 wants me to. She wants me to let her know 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:54.000 when it's going to go up, and and she said 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:56.959 she might even do another article about it. Who knows. 0:02:57.120 --> 0:02:59.480 I mean yeah, I mean, all right, so let's let's 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:03.120 talk about the let's talking about Brandon. Enough about us, uh, 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:05.400 As the song says, I'm going back to the start. 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:09.360 Brandon was nineteen when he disappeared. He lived with his 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:12.000 parents and his sister in Marshall, Minnesota, and he had 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:14.600 just finished his first year of college. He was celebrating 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:16.720 with some friends in the tiny town of Lynn, which 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:20.320 is about six miles southwest of Marshall, Minnesota. He left 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:23.200 Lynne around ten to ten thirty to go to the 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:26.680 town of Canby, which is somewhat north there for another party. 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:29.120 So just briefly, if if you're near a computer in 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:32.079 a browser, get into Google Maps and find Marshall, Minnesota, 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:34.880 UM and then zoom out a little bit and you'll 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:37.440 see that Marshall is connected to the town of Camby 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:41.320 by State Highway sixty eight. It's about, yeah, pretty much 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:44.120 straight line. Yeah, it's to the northwest. So if you 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:46.160 can see the town, if if you can see the 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:48.920 towns of Canby and Marshall and Lynde, then that gives 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:51.760 you a great geographic reference for this whole thing. And 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:53.960 if you're not near a computer, well, you know, go 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:57.600 look at it. But this it's how it's really helpful 0:03:57.640 --> 0:03:59.760 to be able to see this, because this is a 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:03.000 bit of geographic mystery. As I said, Brandon hung out 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:04.520 at the party it can be for a bit, and 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:07.720 he left around midnight or maybe twelve thirty. Nobody's entirely 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:10.760 sure exactly when he left. The date it was Wednesday, 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:13.920 May fourteenth, two thousand and eight. At that party, he 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:16.960 had a shot of whiskey, and he'd also have been 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:19.560 drinking a bit at the party in Lynne. But he wasn't. 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:23.320 He wasn't like, he wasn't anything. No, no, nobody reported 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:26.120 that he was smashed, although, of course, on the other hand, 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:28.000 if he was smashed, everybody to be saying, oh, no, 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:31.160 he wasn't because nobody wants to be liable. True, So 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:33.960 who knows. But I should imagine a noo that Brandon, 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:36.560 as far as I know, had no substance abuse issues. 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:38.560 He had no mental issues. He was a normal, well 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:41.920 adjusted kids, nineteen year old guy who went to a 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:44.520 couple of parties and had a couple of drinks. Yeah, exactly, 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:46.640 So you know, I don't. I have no evidence that 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:49.479 he was smashed. When Brandon left can Be to go 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:51.840 home to Marshall, he had a straight shot down Highway 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:54.839 sixty eight. You guys are starting out. Yeah, And but 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:56.880 he didn't do that. He took the back roads. I'm 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:59.159 assuming that he did that to avoid the police because 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:01.840 he had been drinking. Yeah that that's really the only 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:04.680 reason that you would do that. Pretty much. I've done 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:06.200 it a time or two when I lived in the 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:08.320 rural areas, and that was the only reason that I 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:10.880 went on those back roads and credited because it's easy 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:15.760 to get lost. Oh yeah, yeah, and hindsight, but he 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:20.680 really should have taken the highway. Yeah. I mean, well, 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:22.440 if you're looking at Google, you can see you can 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:24.440 see the back roads. And I'm talking about and this 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:28.359 is the countryside in this area is flat farmland, and 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:32.440 it's divided into sections as right. Yeah, yeah, it's actually 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:34.800 their squares that are one mile on the side, and 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:38.200 all the roads pretty much go on those section lines. 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:41.960 So it's a grid. And we should mention, um on 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:44.919 your phone, it's probably not going to show up, Yeah, 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:47.320 this whole area zooming out to see the town. Yeah 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:52.120 you're not. You don't have a screen, just as a mention. Yeah, 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:54.839 but if you if you get on a big screen, 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:58.120 you can see it quite well. UMU. And so Brandon, 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:01.000 if when he left Canby, we don't know exactly what 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:03.000 rude he took. He could have got He could have 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:05.240 gone dew east nine miles and then he could have 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:07.880 turned right and gone do south six and a half miles, 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:09.919 or he could have gone in a stair step fashion 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:12.400 of some kind exactly. He could have taken an infinite 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:14.560 number one maybe not infinite, but a whole there's a 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:18.320 whole lot of possibilities there, but he wound up essentially 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:20.479 going south for six and a half miles and anybody 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:23.000 right turned and went west for one mile on a 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:24.839 dirt road that went across the middle of one of 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:28.080 these sections, and then he tried to turn left onto 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:32.040 the Lion Lincoln County Road left being south, but he 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:34.120 screwed up. He turned it just a little bit too 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:37.000 soon and drove into the ditch. And it seems like 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:41.120 that would be pretty easy to do because his car 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:45.400 wasn't like new, was it. So you know, if you 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:48.839 have the like dimmer headlights and there's and there's definitely 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:52.200 not street lights out there, you know, so it's going 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:55.359 to be dark. And you know, I've driven out in 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:57.120 that kind of country and it's I mean, I think 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:00.400 we all have it's hard to judge where that his 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:03.480 road and where it's ditch. And you know, if if 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:06.320 he made the mistake of trying to be covert and 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:08.440 drive with just his low beams on instead of his 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:10.600 high beams, or even if his high beams were I mean, 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:13.480 I've had the cars where the high beams are still 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:17.240 terrible compared to the every other car around. Oh yeah, Well, 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:19.160 you know, you don't know too. I mean again, he 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:22.360 was taking the back roads. He actually taking this route 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:25.320 that he took, was actually going the opposite direction from 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:28.640 where his objective was, which was Marshall. And he might 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:31.000 have had his lights off. He might have actually been 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:33.360 maybe a pair of headlights showed up in his review 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:36.040 mirror and he decided to take off Denis dirt Road 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:41.920 turn his lights off. That's entirely possible. That's that's really paranoid. 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:44.239 That is paranoid. Yeah, I mean, and you know, again, 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:46.600 Brandon would have been well served. He actually would have 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:48.160 been much much better off to have been pulled over 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:53.160 by law enforcement and arrested for dewey. Yeah, that intoxicated. Yeah, 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:55.000 I don't even know if he was a smash. But 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:58.200 so he makes his turn and get stuck in the 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:00.920 ditch and he pulls out his cell phone. What time 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:04.600 was this? This was one am on the fourteenth of 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:08.800 fourteenth of May. He started calling his friends and nobody 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:12.120 was picking up. Yeah, and so they were probably all asleep, 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:14.200 or maybe they were partying so hard and so loud 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:18.120 they didn't hear their phones going off. At four am, 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:22.240 he called his parents. Ye, that has just got to 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:27.600 that's just the call you want to get. Ye. You know, 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:29.640 my my brother when he was in situations like that, 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:32.000 would just call me because I was lame, was a 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:36.480 lame older sister and just like, yeah, no, I was asleepy, 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:39.400 You'll come pick you up. Yeah, but yeah, sooner or later, 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:41.520 when nobody else is picking up, you gotta call the parents. 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:44.400 And that's what he did. His parents are Brian and 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:47.520 Annette Swanson, and by the way, they are still wondering 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:51.480 what the hell happened to Brandon. So Brandon, if you're listening, 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:55.000 please call home. Brian Andnette got into the family pickup 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:57.360 truck and they left to go find Brandon. Now he 0:08:57.440 --> 0:09:01.000 was he had committed some navigational errors. I was going 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:03.640 to say, he probably wasn't super sure where he was. 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:06.319 Yeah he was. He was way off. Yeah, this is 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:09.480 this is what doomed their rescue mission because Brandon told 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:11.719 him he was stuck just off Highway twenty three and 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:15.480 near Lynn, between Lynn and Marshall, which is way farther south. 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:18.480 It's it's like twenty miles away. Yeah, And this, to 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:21.079 me is one of the most truly puzzling things about 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:24.520 this story is that how he could possibly have believed 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:27.719 that he was anywhere near Lynn when he was so 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:30.120 far away. So I actually I thought about that, and 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:33.560 I have an idea. Okay, he knew how long it 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:37.240 took to go from town A to Town B on 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:41.000 the highway, let's just say thirty minutes. So he's been 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:43.160 driving on these dirt roads where he's got to go 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:46.120 much slower and taking all these turns, and he's like, well, 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:49.440 I've been driving for thirty or forty minutes. I've got 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:53.040 to be almost there because I've I've made that same 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:55.680 mistake because you don't think about the fact that you're 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:58.120 not going in a straight line and you're going slower. 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:00.720 So I can see how that is. But the other 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.240 thing is that we are all spoiled today. We think, 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:05.599 I know somebody's gonna say this, Well, why didn't he 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:08.520 just look at his phone and see what the map said? 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:14.439 His phone wasn't It was a motor motor role of 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:16.600 silver is what it was. I was reading about it, 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:20.000 and it didn't have that capability. It could hold MP 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:24.439 three's and play music, but it didn't have that Internet 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:29.760 capacity that you'd have to have for doing doing maps. Okay, yes, 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:34.560 it was a silver, not a silver I had one. Yeah, sorry, 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:38.200 I just want to make sure here. Yeah, I don't 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:39.800 know it was I mean it was the it was 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:42.760 the flat version of the razor, right. Yeah, it's kind 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:44.240 of like that. I think they call that style the 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:47.760 candy bar. Yeah, but I thought it was the bread loaf. 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:51.200 But well, I mean I guess I think also, you know, 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:53.560 it's it's not as though there are street signs on 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:56.240 those dirt roads, those back roads, and I bet he 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:59.439 thought he just turned the wrong way. Well, you know, 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:02.520 said that the all the roads all looked the same 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:04.240 in that area, and I can believe it. I mean, 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:06.360 I've been on street View and I've I've looked around 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:08.880 the area and yeah, it's flat. Well I was. You know, 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:10.839 that's funny, as you say about the street signs, is 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:15.120 that I was reading on one one site and it 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:17.559 was the funniest thing. It was some wiki And this 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:19.320 is what cracked me up, is that somebody had gone 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:22.120 through and written the wiki, and somebody else had come 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:25.360 back through and edited and put all of their um 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:30.000 their responses to statements in italics. The snarky yeah is 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:31.640 that the one that I put out there? And yeah, 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:33.800 you said that one to me, And it's because it 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:36.800 says there's no street size. It says, yes, there are 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:41.599 there everywhere, So it doesn't sound like it was completely unmarked. 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:46.000 It probably wasn't every intersection, but it was probably a 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:49.600 significant number of Yeah, I should have given him some 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:53.079 idea unless he wasn't paying attention to which is probably. 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:56.920 It's entirely possible. But no, I mean, if he's to 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:59.240 wind up where it was, he I could see where 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:02.600 he would, he would leave Canby and drive due east. 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:05.320 But somehow in the mistaken belief that he was driving 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:10.600 due south instead, and so that's entirely possible. It's totally possible, 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:13.760 but still it's still it's still kind of a mystery 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:16.640 to me. But it doesn't really matter. It was a 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:21.559 huge navigational air but uh, Brian and Annette, Brandon's parents 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:23.960 got into the vicinity of Land, which is only six 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:26.600 miles away from their home in Marshall's, so they got 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:30.319 very quickly. They started driving up and down the side roads. 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:33.120 Brian was driving and that was on the phone with Brandon, 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:35.280 and they were flashing their headlights and saying, hey, can 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:38.040 you see her headlights flashing? And Brandon was saying, no, 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:40.480 can you see my headlights flashing? And he was still 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:42.000 with the car at this point in time, which is 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:49.800 obviously not really surprising that nobody saw the flashing headlights. 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:53.200 At this point, Brandon was apparently getting a little snippy 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:57.240 with his mom and losing patients, and so Brian Brandon's 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:00.920 dad dropped his mom off at home and went back 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:03.760 out to look for Brandon again. He called him at 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:06.920 two twenty three am and they were on a long 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:10.680 phone call for forty seven minutes. Brandon had at this 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:13.480 point left the car, which is not something you should 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:15.839 be doing, but well, in this particular case, it probably 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:17.760 wasn't a good idea, but he left the car and 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:21.040 his his intention was to walk into the town of Lynne, 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:22.679 which he still believed he was near, and he was 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:25.840 seeing glowing lights of a town nearby. The town. Actually, 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:28.600 I believe it was Porter. I think that's correct. Yeah, 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:30.760 I think it was Porter. Or what's the other one 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:33.800 that starts with the T, Yeah, Taunton. It's one of 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:35.319 those two. He had to be said, well, he was 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:40.080 headed towards Porter. He was, Yeah, he was meet him 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:42.079 at the tovern. He told him, Yeah, he told his 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:43.800 dad to meet him at in the parking lot of 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:46.280 the Lynwood Tavern in Lynn, which, by the way, is 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:48.000 still there if you do a little do a little 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:50.040 googling on them there. They still have a web page, 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:51.880 but street view won't let you go into the bar 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:55.560 to look around. No, it won't. Y you know, that's 0:13:55.559 --> 0:14:00.600 why pokemon goo exists, right seriously. That yeah, I'm so, 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:03.280 I'm amazed it took this long to work. Well there, 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:05.640 that's the whole reason that it exists is because Google 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:08.040 wants to map the inside of buildings. And since you know, 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:09.880 you have to take video all the time and you 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:12.920 upload it to the cloud, that's how they're mapping it. Really, 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:17.000 and that's it. That makes sense. I just want to say, 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:19.840 and and and so tasteful that that that the Holocaust 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:23.760 Museum is part of the pokemon go Yeah, yeah, okay, 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:25.720 back to the story that what we're talking about. He 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:27.720 was so, Brandon is out of the car and he's 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:30.480 heading towards what he thinks is the town of Lynde, 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:33.560 which is in actuality of the town of Porter. So 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:35.960 he's walking down according to his father, he's what he 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:39.960 was walking down a gravel road towards Lynde. At the end, 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:42.560 he said he was cutting across the field to save time. 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:45.080 He mentioned that he came across two fences, which I 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:49.080 assume he climbed over. Yeah. He said there was water nearby, 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:51.880 which I am assuming was the Yellow Medicine River, which 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:54.040 kind of meanders all throughout the area. You guys have 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:57.960 seen the arials. And then at three ten, Brandon said 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:02.560 in an alarm tone, and the phone went dead. And 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:05.960 that's the last time anybody who from Brandon Swanson. So 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:09.240 obviously this set off a few alarm bills. The family 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:12.240 kept searching all night, and they kept calling Brandon's phone, 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:15.160 and the phone would ring several times and then would 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:18.360 go to voicemail after indicates that the phone was still on. 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:23.400 Apparently still on but not necessarily functional. No, no, I 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:26.360 mean you're not always because we've talked about this before 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:29.200 that the phone ringing doesn't necessarily mean that the phone 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:33.600 is ringing, Yeah, exactly, So just I want to make 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:35.600 sure we talked about that, because we'll bring something up 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:37.680 in theories in a minute. Yeah, but now, I mean 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:39.880 people have read a lot into that though, because for 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:43.720 about a day and a half until until about Thursday afternoon, 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:46.760 the phone would ring several times in a good voicemail, 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:50.920 and starting about late on Thursday, it stopped ringing. When 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:53.080 you call it, it would just go straight to voicemail, 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:57.440 which most people I've interpreted as the phone was still 0:15:57.480 --> 0:16:00.000 on and then the battery died and at that point 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:03.400 started going directly to voicemail, which is uh, which is 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:06.520 actually a reasonable interpretation. But apparently it does appear that 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:08.680 the phone was not functioning, and we don't know because 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:12.520 that was never found. Brandon phone was never found, so 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:14.840 we don't really know. I mean, he could have when 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:17.000 he when he his whole o s I'll call it 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:19.720 from his whole os moment. A lot of people have 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:24.720 read that to be, yeah, exactly, I've read that to 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:27.280 be like, you know, he was walking along, cutting through 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:29.800 this field and then suddenly a serial killer popped up 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:33.640 with a chainsaw. Nobody knows. Really, we really don't know. 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:37.960 So they looked for Brandon, obviously, yeah they did. Uh Yeah. 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:40.440 The police were notified at six thirty am the Brandon 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:43.400 was missing. One of the first things, of course, that 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:46.160 they did, as they checked with Brandon's cell provider and 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:47.800 they found out that he when he was talking to 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:50.000 his parents on the phone. He was connected to a 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:53.560 cell tower in Minneota and sorry Minnesota residence if I've 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:57.480 mispronounced that, but Minneota, which is several miles southeast of Taunton, 0:16:57.600 --> 0:16:59.600 which is the town that he was closest to, and 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:02.120 that was definitely not the cell tower he would have 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:05.200 been accessing if he was anywhere near the town of Lynne, which, 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:08.000 as I've said already, was way far away. So that's 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:10.840 how they kind of gave their initial circle of where 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:13.480 to search at, yeah, exactly, and so they focused their 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:15.879 their efforts on the area around Highways sixty eight to 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:19.000 the northwest of Marshall, uh and a twelve thirty pm 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:21.280 on the day of the fourteenth, the sheriff's deputy did 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:24.280 find Brandon's car in the ditch, but there was no Brandon. 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:27.760 There were initial efforts were made to find amusing dogs 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:30.560 he was These were kind of inconclusive. The next day, 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:35.000 on Thursday, they brought up bloodhound and used the bloodhound 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:37.159 to track his to track his trail from where he 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:39.800 left the car, and they gave the bloodhound something to 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:42.840 take get a cent for apparently. So the first dogs 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:46.719 were just less search without something where they like cadaver 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:49.040 dogs or something, you know. I don't know. I think 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:52.040 I think they were actually tracker dogs, but they weren't bloodhounds, 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:54.680 you know. And there's yeah, there's a difference between bringing 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:56.600 a dog in and trying to have a track ascent 0:17:56.840 --> 0:18:00.520 and giving it to That's why my question is, like, 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:02.560 why weren't they just doing that in the first place. 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:04.480 Why did they have to wait for the bloodhound? But whatever, 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:08.119 I I don't know, it might for that bloodhound is 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:11.600 much higher. Yeah, it's continued. Yeah, not every yeah, not 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:14.320 every county is going to necessarily have bloodhounds on hand. 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:18.280 So but anyway, they brought him in. The bloodhound tracked 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:20.800 from the car from where the car was tracked his 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:24.600 trail half mile south and then a mile west towards 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:28.240 Porter about a half mile north and then he left 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:31.480 the road, uh and went across this and and this 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:34.640 totally tracks with what his father said he was talking about. 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:37.520 He was talking about walking down gravel roads. And then 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:40.320 he left the road and cut across an abandoned farm 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:43.199 that was and his track was basically parallel to the 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:46.120 what is the Yellow Medicine River, which, by the way, 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:50.480 is probably the most exhaustively searched river in human history. Yeah, 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:53.720 they have definitely scoured that river for his body. And 0:18:53.760 --> 0:19:00.280 it's not really a river. It's not something at that time. Yeah, yeah, 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:03.280 that would have been the main It's probably still there, 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:06.520 probably still some some snow run off or spring run off, 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:08.560 that kind of thing. But we're not talking like a roaring, 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:12.200 fifteen foot deep, you know, ten foot wide river. We're 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:14.520 talking like a creek that you might get your feet 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:16.920 up to your knees. I mean, it's it's one of 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:18.640 those things, are you know, if you if you if 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:21.040 you fall into it, you could definitely bash your head 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:23.200 on a rock and wind up with your face underwater, 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:25.840 and but it wouldn't also wash you away. Your body 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:28.320 would probably be there. It could it's not a creek. 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:30.920 They could wash you a little ways, but it's like 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:34.840 not away forever. The question I'm trying to well, no, 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:37.520 it's been it's been characterized by locals as being more 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:39.600 of a creek than a river. Okay, okay, and they 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:42.119 and yeah, so I just want to clarify it's not 0:19:42.160 --> 0:19:46.399 something that would just wash a human away. No, No, 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:49.960 I don't think so. Well, at one point that the bloodhound. 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:52.840 It followed. It followed his track through this field, and 0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:54.520 then at one point it actually went to the Yellow 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:58.080 Medicine River and jumped into the river, which led people 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:00.600 to believe that Brandon maybe had fallen in. But then 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:02.800 it climbed back out of the river and it picked 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:05.040 up his track again, and his track went all the 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:08.400 way up to a hundred sixty avenue, which is, by 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:11.199 the way, not an avenue. It's gravel road, just like 0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:13.120 all the other gravel roads we've been talking about. It 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:15.800