Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, we're back in person. I know it
Speaker 1: feels nice to be in the same studio again.
Speaker 2: So close together.
Speaker 1: And that's a face I did, so I have to
Speaker 1: say this. So I was walking here and so it's winter,
Speaker 1: but it's actually really nice outside. But I did see
Speaker 1: a guy with a T shirt and shorts on, and
Speaker 1: I posted on Facebook like, just a guy with T
Speaker 1: shirt and shorts on. Although it's winter, it's nice out,
Speaker 1: but it's still winter. And then I wrote, and the
Speaker 1: answer to your second question is yes, so the brown enbition.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean by the answer to your
Speaker 1: second question. If you don't know what I mean, you probably.
Speaker 2: Not hashtag white people.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 3: Yes, I was like, oh, like.
Speaker 2: You know, I thought, I so I have.
Speaker 4: I'm really close to my coworkers who happen to be white,
Speaker 4: just like very cool ladies whatever. So I'm always thinking
Speaker 4: in my head like white people, white people, but I
Speaker 4: don't say.
Speaker 2: It out loud.
Speaker 4: But I just had to because like last week, they
Speaker 4: were sharing this article and the New York Post about
Speaker 4: how bulls are a thing now, how bowls are the
Speaker 4: new plate that's literally the headline, and within this article
Speaker 4: they're interviewing like a yoga instructor from Brooklyn, the founder
Speaker 4: of a modeling company online, and they're all talking about
Speaker 4: with like sincerity, how bowls are better than plates because
Speaker 4: they make food better to be photographed, they make it
Speaker 4: easier to consume, they're beautiful. Bulls are the new plate
Speaker 4: and they're orders like all disgusted by this, and I
Speaker 4: was just like you, guys, I have to say it
Speaker 4: hashtag white girls, yeah, because like what and this is
Speaker 4: the second article.
Speaker 2: Plates are being done, like being replaced by bulls.
Speaker 4: That's the trend now and this is what matters. Oh here,
Speaker 4: Oh the headline's even worse. Hot skinny people are ditching
Speaker 4: salads for power bowls.
Speaker 3: Air quotes parable power bowls.
Speaker 4: And she has like a carrot and some lettuce in
Speaker 4: this bowl. Justine Parker twenty eight and Lily coon In
Speaker 4: twenty seven have an exercise date at a trendy skyteing
Speaker 4: yoga downtown, but afterwards they don't grab coffee tea your salad. Instead,
Speaker 4: they go out for a bowl, a power bowl filled
Speaker 4: with vegetables, whole grains and protein.
Speaker 2: Die, both of you.
Speaker 1: You're either going to have a restaurant called bowls probably yeah, yeah, wait.
Speaker 3: People will go It'll be the new high trains.
Speaker 2: In the sand trends.
Speaker 4: I was talking to you about the whole Canada Goose
Speaker 4: eight hundred dollars jacket. Yes, so I was noticing it
Speaker 4: feels like high school in New York City and this
Speaker 4: is a big city. So for me to notice that
Speaker 4: almost maybe four people to five people on a train
Speaker 4: car that at any given time, any given day this
Speaker 4: winter have been wearing this puffy coat with the Canada
Speaker 4: Goose label on it. Yes, And I'm like, what is happening?
Speaker 4: Is this the ninth grade all over again? Everyone's got
Speaker 4: to have thish jacket.
Speaker 3: Yes, it is.
Speaker 2: I've never noticed it before, and then I started looking
Speaker 2: it up.
Speaker 3: Nine hundred dollars. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's so crazy because I was introduced to Canada Goose
Speaker 1: about two no, about three or four years ago a
Speaker 1: friend of mine. We were both saying, like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I can't do another Jersey wintil. We have to get
Speaker 1: a super warm coat. And it was summer, and so
Speaker 1: he did his research.
Speaker 3: I did mine.
Speaker 1: I ended up getting a north Face like super discounted
Speaker 1: because I feel like you have to have one big,
Speaker 1: ignorant winter coat. Like the type of coat you wore
Speaker 1: when you were five. Ignorant, Yes, ignorant, just just big
Speaker 1: for no reason. Yeah, you know, no shape, no, just
Speaker 1: on you. And so he ended up getting at Canada Goose.
Speaker 1: He had never heard of it before, but it was
Speaker 1: supposed to be really warm, and he was a big,
Speaker 1: tall guy, so.
Speaker 2: Like like a rent payment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, he didn't get it wasn't nine hundred
Speaker 1: at the time. I think it was like three hundred
Speaker 1: or something like or three fifty something to that double.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I would also remember it was
Speaker 1: also off season and this was about four years ago.
Speaker 1: So he got his coat and so that was the
Speaker 1: first I'd ever heard of it, and I've never seen
Speaker 1: it until this year again, so I'm like, wow, he
Speaker 1: was a way of heead a trend.
Speaker 3: That's to tell him.
Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't just me.
Speaker 4: I read on the same day I came in and
Speaker 4: I was finally ready to explode because I had just
Speaker 4: put my coat up at the office and there was
Speaker 4: like three Canada Goose jackets and I'm like, why are
Speaker 4: we being brainwashed? Like what's happening? There's an art online
Speaker 4: on Business Insider and they had written like the history
Speaker 4: of the Canada Goose jacket and how it became. This
Speaker 4: is the jacket that people in Antarctica who are doing research.
Speaker 4: This is that jacket. That's the jacket they used to
Speaker 4: keep warm. It's a jacket that film crew where when
Speaker 4: they're filming in like Arctic conditions and outside the elements.
Speaker 4: It became popular because Hollywood. I think James Bond, Daniel
Speaker 4: Craig wore one in one of his movies, and then
Speaker 4: I think Claire Danes or some actress had been seen
Speaker 4: wearing it, and then you know, like.
Speaker 3: I'm like, shoot, he got it. I should have got it.
Speaker 3: I could have sold it. For real.
Speaker 1: I'm like, meanwhile, I got this north face and he
Speaker 1: got the Canada goose, and you know, because I would
Speaker 1: totally sell it and then get something else.
Speaker 2: Business opportunity, I know, you know what.
Speaker 4: I feel like, it's fine if you can afford it
Speaker 4: to buy an eight hundred dollars code, you can say
Speaker 4: it's an investment or whatever. But I feel like some
Speaker 4: people buy these jackets and it's worth more than the
Speaker 4: money in their bank account or like the their purse,
Speaker 4: or like, you know, I just don't see why the jacket,
Speaker 4: like one thing has to cost.
Speaker 3: And honestly, it's called in New York, but it's not Antarctica.
Speaker 4: Listen, go to TJ Max, go to Marshall's exactly. I
Speaker 4: got myself a seventy five dollars winter coat two years ago.
Speaker 2: It is still just as perfect as it.
Speaker 1: Was, And honestly, to me, you only need one ignorant
Speaker 1: winter coat a lifetime unless you live like a Canada,
Speaker 1: you know, like just.
Speaker 3: One big like a bubble bubble jacket, and then if you.
Speaker 1: Don't, like, you know, you're not rough with it, then
Speaker 1: you can just keep that for a lifetime. Like I'm
Speaker 1: never gonna get another like big coat like that again.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna have my one little it's not little.
Speaker 1: It's a huge north face. It goes to my knees,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I only take it out, you know,
Speaker 1: when New Jersey has decided to lose all of its
Speaker 1: mind and you know it's just crazy outside. But I
Speaker 1: don't wear it often, and I'm like, that's it for me.
Speaker 2: People are nuts.
Speaker 3: They are nuts.
Speaker 4: Speaking of nutty people, I was just browsing Facebook yesterday
Speaker 4: and I saw this story about this guy who wrote
Speaker 4: an open letter to San Francisco's mayor. Oh boy, me,
Speaker 4: let me pull up the article.
Speaker 3: You know, it's bad when Mandy has to do the
Speaker 3: deep side.
Speaker 4: Okay, So it's from this guy. He owns a startup
Speaker 4: in San Francisco. Of course he does. Because San Francisco,
Speaker 4: if you haven't noticed, over the last you know, seven
Speaker 4: to eight years, has become the epicenter of startup land.
Speaker 4: It's called Silicon Valley for a reason. People go there
Speaker 4: to It's for Apple, Google, Pinterest, and every other startup
Speaker 4: and app that you ever loved in your life has.
Speaker 4: You know, even Yahoo has a headquarters there. So in
Speaker 4: San Francisco there's this huge it's kind of.
Speaker 3: Like New York.
Speaker 4: There's this huge gap between the rich and the poor.
Speaker 4: All these wealthy, wealthy tech people are coming in and
Speaker 4: they're driving up, driving out people middle class people who
Speaker 4: can't afford to live there anymore. And San Francisco has
Speaker 4: always had a historic problem with homelessness. Yes, so this jackass,
Speaker 4: if I can call him, that, he decides to write
Speaker 4: an open letter. This is the letter. It's called open
Speaker 4: letter to San Francisco Mayor Ed Lee and Greg Sir,
Speaker 4: the police chief. And I'll just give you a brief excerpt.
Speaker 4: I'm writing today to voice my concern and outrage over
Speaker 4: the increasing homeless and drug problem that the city is
Speaker 4: faced with. I've been living in SF over three years,
Speaker 4: all of three years, and without a doubt, it is
Speaker 4: the worst it has ever been since the three years
Speaker 4: he moved here. Apparently every day on my work too
Speaker 4: and from work, I on my way to and from work,
Speaker 4: I see people sprawled across the sidewalk, tense cities, human feces,
Speaker 4: and the faces of addiction. The city is becoming a shantytown.
Speaker 4: Worst of all, it is unsafe. Oh so, here's the
Speaker 4: part that really got to me later on. It's not
Speaker 4: the longest letter, but here he says, what are you
Speaker 4: doing to address this problem? The residents of this amazing
Speaker 4: city no longer feel safe? Because he speaks for everyone exactly.
Speaker 4: I know people are frustrated about gentrification happening, but the
Speaker 4: reality is we live in a free market society. The wealthy,
Speaker 4: working people like himself have earned their right to live
Speaker 4: in the city. They went out, got in education, worked hard,
Speaker 4: and earned it. I shouldn't I shouldn't have to worry
Speaker 4: about being accosted. I shouldn't I shouldn't have to see
Speaker 4: the pain, struggle and despair of how most people.
Speaker 3: No, you do, Yes, he wrote this.
Speaker 4: I'm reading the words, Yes, I shouldn't have to see this,
Speaker 4: the pain, the struggle and despair of homeless people too.
Speaker 4: And from my way to work every day. I want
Speaker 4: my parents when they come visit to have a great.
Speaker 2: Experience, special place. This guy's name is Justin.
Speaker 3: Keller, justin mother f and kel.
Speaker 4: You can go try and find him on Twitter. He
Speaker 4: made his account private. You can also go try and
Speaker 4: find the company that he owns. It's called Commando dot Io.
Speaker 4: I would encourage anyone to go to this company's website
Speaker 4: and send a letter to the editor or whatever they
Speaker 4: have there. Don't know what the company does, but this
Speaker 4: guy has just has just made it complete full of himself.
Speaker 1: Because the thing is you can definitely, because definitely when
Speaker 1: I walk through New York City sometimes I think to myself, Wow,
Speaker 1: the homeless problem has gotten really bad. But from a
Speaker 1: place of what can we do to help? Not what
Speaker 1: can they do to help to get rid of these people,
Speaker 1: but what can we do and help so that way
Speaker 1: people are not falling into this trap?
Speaker 3: Over and over and over like, because.
Speaker 1: One thing I've learned from teaching financial education is that,
Speaker 1: first of all, one everyone does not have the same
Speaker 1: leg up, you know. So it's not that you just
Speaker 1: like to think to yourself that somehow you are in
Speaker 1: this position because you're just so smart.
Speaker 3: That's just not true.
Speaker 4: I work so hard. I got an education. Well, you
Speaker 4: know what, many people got in education and fell ill
Speaker 4: or had mental illness or fell on hard times, not
Speaker 4: because they were stupid or didn't work hard, just because
Speaker 4: life didn't right for.
Speaker 3: That exactly, you just didn't have the same opportunity.
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how many super smart kids I
Speaker 1: taught in Newark when I taught preschool, and they would
Speaker 1: tell me, like all the way to school, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: the dead body's still out there from last night. Or
Speaker 1: one little girls refused to speak for nearly a year
Speaker 1: because she had saw scene outside of her window a
Speaker 1: man shot point blank in the head and die in
Speaker 1: front of her. So she was so afraid to leave
Speaker 1: her house because she thought when you left your house,
Speaker 1: you died too.
Speaker 3: So what do you say to a girl like that?
Speaker 3: Pull yourself together? Three year old?
Speaker 2: High school?
Speaker 3: Exactly like you better learn in school, because your.
Speaker 4: School probably has different resources than a school that's probably
Speaker 4: a majority white and different part of town.
Speaker 2: It's just, I mean, this guy grew up.
Speaker 3: In I just don't see.
Speaker 1: And I get it because mister what's his name again,
Speaker 1: Justin Keller. So I get it that Justin Keller cannot
Speaker 1: see past his own privilege and his own whiteness and
Speaker 1: his own wealth to see. But at some point you
Speaker 1: have to realize. And that's the way the world works.
Speaker 1: To me, that's the beauty of life is that one
Speaker 1: way you're gonna learn one way or the other. And
Speaker 1: I had to learn even myself, like going and working
Speaker 1: where I worked in Newark, that you have to respect
Speaker 1: the people around you. Because I think he right there
Speaker 1: wrote somewhere that it's gonna be a revolution, and yes,
Speaker 1: let's hope they come for you first, mister Justin Keller.
Speaker 3: You know when there is a revolution that.
Speaker 4: Speaking remember the French revolution that didn't turn out so
Speaker 4: hot for the aristocrale exactly.
Speaker 1: The thing is, though, if you don't help in general,
Speaker 1: if you don't help bring up the general mass, then
Speaker 1: you can't continue to thrive. Do you think that people
Speaker 1: are gonna stand idly by while you eat and they starve.
Speaker 3: That's just not gonna happen.
Speaker 4: No fact that he just moved there three years ago, right,
Speaker 4: and he thinks this has been the worst it's ever
Speaker 4: been in all three years of his experience. San Francisco
Speaker 4: has been dealing with homelessness for decades, for decade decades,
Speaker 4: and these homeless people have more of a right to
Speaker 4: the city, I'd argue.
Speaker 2: Than you do.
Speaker 3: I guess it's just so frustrating.
Speaker 1: Like, you know, people act as if like, oh, gentrification,
Speaker 1: it's a good thing. Isn't the neighborhood better. It's not
Speaker 1: about that. It's that the neighborhood is better for you
Speaker 1: and no one else. That's what gentrification brings. Of course,
Speaker 1: we want the neighborhood to be better, but it shouldn't
Speaker 1: be better at the expense of like I can't live
Speaker 1: here now, like oh, we're going to clean things up,
Speaker 1: but hey, you who lived here forever, you can't benefit
Speaker 1: from things being better. That's the problem. That's why, justin.
Speaker 1: But you know what you know, I always say this,
Speaker 1: You are allowed to say whatever you want. But guess what,
Speaker 1: soa can other people. So I'm sure you're being dragged
Speaker 1: as rightfully. So I'm sure there's lots of people who
Speaker 1: agree with you because.
Speaker 4: The sick you know, this reminds me. And it's sick
Speaker 4: because I know people who would agree with them. You know,
Speaker 4: I used to work for Business Insider, and I worked
Speaker 4: for a great man.
Speaker 2: His name was Henry Blodgett.
Speaker 4: He was the editor in chief and I had a
Speaker 4: really great experience there. But while I was there, Henry
Speaker 4: wrote a blog post about and he would sometimes just
Speaker 4: write things. He thought he had gone to a fancy
Speaker 4: restaurant downtown. I think it was Balthazar, which is this
Speaker 4: like hot spot, hot for brunch or whatever, and he
Speaker 4: wrote an entire article about how he thought that they
Speaker 4: need to do away with bathroom attendants. Why do you
Speaker 4: need bathroom attendants? It's awkward, makes me feel weird. Why
Speaker 4: do I have to pay someone, you know, give a
Speaker 4: tip or whatever? And he went on and on and on,
Speaker 4: and you know, I'm sure he thought that he was
Speaker 4: in his right you know, frame or whatever he had
Speaker 4: to write opinion, and it was highly offensive. I'm just
Speaker 4: get personal. My father, for a long time has worked
Speaker 4: as a bathroom attendant at a nice restaurant. This is
Speaker 4: my dad and I wasn't always so proud of it,
Speaker 4: but my dad has done this forever, and he's really
Speaker 4: good at his job and he likes what he does.
Speaker 4: And I felt like by writing this article at the time,
Speaker 4: and by the way, I've told him this, so I
Speaker 4: haven't I'm not saying anything to you guys that I
Speaker 4: haven't said to Henry personally. I said that it really
Speaker 4: made me feel, you know, as a daughter of someone
Speaker 4: who's done that job and you feel like it's an
Speaker 4: honest day's work, Like it made me really feel like
Speaker 4: he was belittling someone, you know, if that's their way
Speaker 4: of making income, providing for their family, it was belittling that.
Speaker 4: And it was just you know, casting it all because
Speaker 4: it was simply an inconvenience for me, exactly, him.
Speaker 2: He who has privileged exactly. But there were a lot
Speaker 2: of people.
Speaker 4: For every person who was sort of like, you know,
Speaker 4: writing on this article, there were many many others who
Speaker 4: were like, oh my god, I know, I hate it.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's so annoying.
Speaker 1: It's just so easy to like turn your nose up
Speaker 1: when you have had the opportunity to have better, you know.
Speaker 1: And so I mean one of to me one of
Speaker 1: the greatest gifts, I mean, because I was pretty for
Speaker 1: I mean, growing up, we were like broke, like you know,
Speaker 1: we lived in like I don't know, we just lived
Speaker 1: not well but well because my parents look after us.
Speaker 3: But like, you know, we didn't have a lot.
Speaker 1: But by the time I was really conscious of like
Speaker 1: kind of how we lived. My parents had gone to school,
Speaker 1: gotten their master's. You know, we lived in a nice neighborhood.
Speaker 1: But to me, one of the greatest gifts was me
Speaker 1: for me to then after school and graduating kind of
Speaker 1: going back to a similar neighborhood that I had first
Speaker 1: started with and working there for like ten years because
Speaker 1: I got like such a better scope of the world.
Speaker 1: It was like, okay, like I see the world of privilege.
Speaker 1: I had lived in the town. It was majority like
Speaker 1: people of wealth. It was like very little people of color,
Speaker 1: mostly Jewish, white town. You know, the best school systems. Honestly,
Speaker 1: everybody kind of went away to like the best schools.
Speaker 1: College was one of those things that like we had
Speaker 1: like ninety six percent college grade, you know, like entry rate.
Speaker 1: And then going to Newark and teaching there and kind
Speaker 1: of seeing like the difference and why not because these
Speaker 1: kids were not smarter, but really seeing how where you're
Speaker 1: born and the opportunities that you were born or not
Speaker 1: born into, how they played such.
Speaker 3: A pivotal role, and where you went and life because
Speaker 3: those kids were so smart.
Speaker 1: And I've taught preschool and taught in other districts and
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, these kids are so smart.
Speaker 3: Where's the disconnect zip code? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And then I then to see what they lived through.
Speaker 1: I remember at twenty two when I first started, I
Speaker 1: remember thinking Mandy.
Speaker 3: Like, oh, how did they deal? It was too much
Speaker 3: for me at twenty two. How does a three year
Speaker 3: and four year old deal?
Speaker 1: Like going just like I worked at the bottom of
Speaker 1: a project building, like the day care centers at the
Speaker 1: ground floor, and I would have to go upstairs to
Speaker 1: like go get crayons. We had like a closet on
Speaker 1: the third floor, and like walking just up the stairwell
Speaker 1: and seeing people smoke a crack pipe in the stairwell,
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, I get to go home to my
Speaker 1: regular neighborhood. These kids have to come up the stairwell
Speaker 1: and see.
Speaker 3: This every day.
Speaker 1: Or hearing people curse people out all day long, or
Speaker 1: mental illness being just so rampant and drugs on drugs
Speaker 1: on drugs, and the dealers at the pimps and the
Speaker 1: prostitutes all day. Actually, I had to finally step back
Speaker 1: and say I can't do this anymore because it was
Speaker 1: bringing my spirit down. My boyfriend at the time told me,
Speaker 1: after a year, you're not the same Tiffany, like you
Speaker 1: used to be so happy, go lucky.
Speaker 3: What's going on?
Speaker 1: And I thought, wow, for me at twenty two, imagine
Speaker 1: a four year old and so it's just very and
Speaker 1: it's just so gray and ugly.
Speaker 2: Like I think, it's just this is important too.
Speaker 4: I think that they're there's so much to be said
Speaker 4: about people who know people from different walks of life
Speaker 4: are different. I think it's really important when we have
Speaker 4: kids to make sure that they have friends who are
Speaker 4: wealthy and friends who are poor, and friends who are
Speaker 4: different colors in them, and friends with a different circumstances,
Speaker 4: because you not just to look at them and say, ooh,
Speaker 4: look at that person and what they've been through, but
Speaker 4: to learn from them and to that's where empathy comes from, exactly.
Speaker 4: And I think if this guy had ever met in
Speaker 4: his life somebody who was worse off than him, and
Speaker 4: knew them on a personal level. He would never have
Speaker 4: written this, I think he would instead of complaining about it.
Speaker 4: Maybe he should complain, you know, maybe we should. I
Speaker 4: think he has a valid point. Yes, the San Francisco
Speaker 4: needs to help these people, but they need to help
Speaker 4: them for themselves, for the people's sake.
Speaker 3: Exactly, not for the rich people that are coming in.
Speaker 2: That's the difference, the.
Speaker 1: Fact that the point of view comes from like just
Speaker 1: a selfish place of like make it better so I
Speaker 1: can walk free and my mom and dad can visit me,
Speaker 1: no versus like, wow, there's so many homes. What can
Speaker 1: I do as an entrepreneur who has wealth, influence and
Speaker 1: connection to make other people's lives better? Not once does
Speaker 1: he mention that in here, And that says a lot
Speaker 1: about his character. What's his name again, Justin Keller?
Speaker 2: Justin Keller.
Speaker 4: You know what's kind of shitty is that there's a
Speaker 4: there's another Justin Keller on Twitter who also lives in
Speaker 4: the San Francisco area. And so I went to his
Speaker 4: Twitter account first thinking it was him, but he's actually
Speaker 4: gotten so much crap, and and he went and wrote
Speaker 4: a letter to the real Justin Keller discounting everything you
Speaker 4: said in being like I don't believe this guy believes
Speaker 4: and and yeah it's sad, but at least people are
Speaker 4: talking about it. I hope this guy, you know, I
Speaker 4: don't know what it's going to be like to work
Speaker 4: for this guy.
Speaker 1: I would not want to work for this commando commandio.
Speaker 2: Alrighty well, moving along.
Speaker 4: You know who always slays Cookie Darlin Cookie, Taraji p Henson.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she does always lay.
Speaker 4: So what I love is that I've heard because I
Speaker 4: was watching all these interviews with Taraji and she was
Speaker 4: saying how much she really loves film and doing film,
Speaker 4: even though she does a TV show, and she's doing
Speaker 4: an amazing film. She's playing a African American astronaut with NASA,
Speaker 4: and the book is the movie is based on this
Speaker 4: book that came out just past September, which has been
Speaker 4: on my read list for the past few months and
Speaker 4: I haven't yet. It's called Hidden Figures, The Story of
Speaker 4: the African American Women who Helped Win the Space Race
Speaker 4: by Margot Lee Shutterley. So Taraji's playing this NASA math
Speaker 4: genius called Catherine Johnson. She was one of three black women.
Speaker 4: The other two were Dorothy Vaughn and Mary Jackson, who
Speaker 4: helped astronaut John Glenn with his space mission during the
Speaker 4: nineteen sixties.
Speaker 3: Ohay, it's cool.
Speaker 2: I've never I never heard of heard of that. And
Speaker 2: I used to want to be an astronaut.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, like hardcore hardcore until I was about thirteen, No,
Speaker 4: maybe sixteen, until I decided I really didn't like math
Speaker 4: that much. But my hero is Sally Henson. And this
Speaker 4: is a this is a this is huge. This is
Speaker 4: something that you never see. Yeah, and it's not a maid.
Speaker 2: Or a slave, yes, or hooker or stripper or an athlete.
Speaker 4: It's a really or big mom. Yeah, it's gonna be
Speaker 4: cool because how often do you see black women is
Speaker 4: kind of wrong. Now, that's awesome math genius black women.
Speaker 4: I don't have to see that.
Speaker 2: So go ahead to ROGI.
Speaker 3: What else were gonna talk about?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 4: One last thing I wanted to mention, so you know
Speaker 4: many Pakia.
Speaker 3: Yes, I heard about his tweets.
Speaker 2: So he not just tweets.
Speaker 4: So he he's like a politician in the Philippines really
Speaker 4: and he's running for office, yeah, congressman. And he was
Speaker 4: running for a seat in the Philippines Senate and he
Speaker 4: described he puts his big old foot in his mouth.
Speaker 4: Although he means it, he describes same sex marriage as
Speaker 4: in his language, the translation is worse than animals, and
Speaker 4: he was set it on video. The video went viral,
Speaker 4: and then he went so far as to like back
Speaker 4: it up on Instagram and basically say that he would
Speaker 4: rather follow the Bible, what the Lord says than what
Speaker 4: the flesh says, or something like that, which is you
Speaker 4: know a lot of people's opinions when they try and
Speaker 4: defend bigotrigue against LGBT couples. So Nike said, not today.
Speaker 3: Not today.
Speaker 4: They are yanking our sponsorship from Many Pacquiao, and I
Speaker 4: thought that was really dope, Like Nike is a huge
Speaker 4: the biggest sports brand in the world probably and Many
Speaker 4: Pacquiao probably just lost millions and millions and millions and millions.
Speaker 3: Who's the other guy?
Speaker 1: Who's the Floyd Mayweather was like, you won't be I
Speaker 1: won't be losing that endorsement. He made sure to tweet
Speaker 1: like I believe that people should do what they want,
Speaker 1: and I am winful.
Speaker 4: He should not be talking though, because doesn't he beat people,
Speaker 4: doesn't he beat women? And he hasn't lost his sponsorship.
Speaker 4: So let's talk about how it's worse to you know,
Speaker 4: I don't see how that's different. Like I feel like
Speaker 4: you are, you know the same thing with Mike Tyson.
Speaker 4: When you beat women, it's somehow okay, justifiable or like
Speaker 4: okay to get over more so than if you, you know,
Speaker 4: speak ill of other races or sexualities and such that
Speaker 4: it's interesting.
Speaker 1: I would both get to the black girl, brown, break brown, break,
Speaker 1: what you gonna do?
Speaker 3: What you're gonna do when we break on you. I
Speaker 3: just want you to know that Mandy did like the
Speaker 3: most awesome like shoulders me, Oh did I? I didn't
Speaker 3: even know. Yeah, I feel like we like that.
Speaker 1: We're like the uh, I don't know, like one of
Speaker 1: those like the something something sisters or like the uh.
Speaker 2: The money sister. Right, do you know that?
Speaker 4: So you know when you were a little kid and
Speaker 4: you I don't know if you I used to be
Speaker 4: painfully shy about dancing in front of people. I go
Speaker 4: to all my little school dances and just like sit
Speaker 4: on the wall. But I'd be dying to dance because
Speaker 4: like I love that. As soon as I hit I
Speaker 4: don't know what age it was, I just stopped caring
Speaker 4: and now I just dance anywhere and I get yeah,
Speaker 4: and I I feel like maybe it's because I started
Speaker 4: doing zoomba in college, so I just like feel the
Speaker 4: music whenever. I love doom but so much. But yeah,
Speaker 4: that was like the biggest uh. That was a big
Speaker 4: hurdle for me to get over. It's like that fear
Speaker 4: of dancing in front of people.
Speaker 3: I think most people are like afrazy dance in front
Speaker 3: of people when they're.
Speaker 2: Younger, even Nigerian's don't you guys say.
Speaker 1: Well, especially me because I didn't think I had much
Speaker 1: rhythm and I realized.
Speaker 2: That, Oh I didn't say I was good.
Speaker 1: I just you know, the thing is I have rhythm,
Speaker 1: but I don't have technique. That's what's missing. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't have to and so they're like with Nigerian dancing,
Speaker 1: there's like even though it's like just this natural dance,
Speaker 1: but still there's a certain movement to the hips and
Speaker 1: that I don't quite have. But I mean, like I can,
Speaker 1: I have rhythm, but just I can't do all that fancy.
Speaker 1: Like my sister Lisa, she is amazing. Every times she
Speaker 1: dances were just like fight, I'll sit down watching I.
Speaker 2: Hate It's like you go to karaoke and someone gets
Speaker 2: up and they really can.
Speaker 3: Sing and like, I know right, You're like, so.
Speaker 4: Why am I here for my moment? Well, I I
Speaker 4: am really bad at salsa dancing, but I love it.
Speaker 4: I will step on everyone's whenever, I know, because I
Speaker 4: look like I could dance salsae and I'm like really
Speaker 4: excited to be there.
Speaker 2: So people always ask me to dance stuff.
Speaker 4: One used to go out a lot and it was
Speaker 4: I can see the cloud on their faces as soon
Speaker 4: as I started dancing.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, it's going to be difficult.
Speaker 3: They're like, she looks like she could be spitish. I
Speaker 3: saw the shoulders shimmy, and she's.
Speaker 2: Also advertising it is. But I love it.
Speaker 4: I love It's like ten percent talent ninety percent enthusiasm.
Speaker 2: That's what dancing is. It is I digress. This is
Speaker 2: brown break time.
Speaker 3: Yes, it is brown break.
Speaker 2: Do you want to go first?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 2: So I was walking here and said you were excited
Speaker 2: about your brown break.
Speaker 3: Well, I was excited only because you told me you
Speaker 3: have a solution, right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I was walking here and I was walking here
Speaker 1: and my pack underwear was riding up my behind as
Speaker 1: it always does.
Speaker 3: And I was like, great, you know where and.
Speaker 2: I say it again, your pack underwear.
Speaker 3: So I call it pack underwear because you buy it
Speaker 3: a pack some people. I'm like, people don't buy you
Speaker 3: no Hanes.
Speaker 4: I didn't know people under the age of forty five
Speaker 4: bus underbar pack. It's like past the age of thirteen
Speaker 4: and under the age of forty five, you should not
Speaker 4: be buying your underwear.
Speaker 3: In a pack. I didn't know. So, like they never
Speaker 3: fait so one.
Speaker 1: You either have the grandma it it goes up to
Speaker 1: your navel and just like you know, it almost looks like,
Speaker 1: you know, like the sixties bathing suits that are like
Speaker 1: really cute, highwaisted.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it looks like over the belly, yes, and
Speaker 3: so it either looks like that or.
Speaker 1: Or you look like a six year old because they're like,
Speaker 1: you know, they actually have like designs and.
Speaker 3: Stuff on them or unicorns. Yes and so, and it
Speaker 3: just never fits my butt.
Speaker 1: So it's either way too big for my butt or
Speaker 1: it's literally like slicing my cheeks in half. And so
Speaker 1: I just never can find the white pack underwear. And
Speaker 1: then Annie told me that there's my problem right there.
Speaker 2: Stop buying your underwear and a pack ladies.
Speaker 3: But I'm like, but what so what I don't want? Necessarily?
Speaker 1: I feel like either I have pack underwear or I
Speaker 1: have like my lacy numbers for what I want to
Speaker 1: get sassy, you know, so what's in between?
Speaker 4: I go to department stores my favorite so I used
Speaker 4: to work at Coals and I hold I hold a
Speaker 4: tiny burning candle for Coals in my heart. I just
Speaker 4: love it. They have such great deals. So I go
Speaker 4: to Coals and they have a great intimate section and
Speaker 4: I get the Vera Wang. I love her simply, Vera.
Speaker 4: I love her line of underwear. She has like more
Speaker 4: of like the sexy stuff, but she also has the
Speaker 4: right regular cotton underwear okay, and then made inform. It's
Speaker 4: not a pack, but there's three on a hangar okay,
Speaker 4: difference like the grown up pack.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 4: So that's what I get in a full coverage because
Speaker 4: I feel like there was a point in my life
Speaker 4: when I was in high school and I don't know
Speaker 4: why I was, but I would go to like RU
Speaker 4: twenty one and I'd buy the dollar thongs and then
Speaker 4: they would just sit in my drawer. I used to
Speaker 4: have this big wad I like tangled up, never worn maybe,
Speaker 4: but once they had like little things dangling from them,
Speaker 4: Like yes, I was a virgin until like how long
Speaker 4: I did not need to be have dangling dollar signs
Speaker 4: for my undermind, like thongs. Nobody wanted to see me
Speaker 4: thought they always rode up the back. Yes, they made.
Speaker 2: Like a line in your ass you can see through
Speaker 2: your jeans and your dress.
Speaker 1: Never because I'm like, I'm gonna pay underwear to ride up.
Speaker 1: They're kind of but I have You're paying for a
Speaker 1: wedgie basically. And so I had those same things because
Speaker 1: I would get it from Joyce Leslie. Did you worm
Speaker 1: a Joyce Leslie? It's like rainbow?
Speaker 3: Okay, well like that kind of I get it.
Speaker 1: And so Joyce Leslie used to have, like for like
Speaker 1: a dollar, they would have like you know, like thongs,
Speaker 1: all this lace and like all this beating.
Speaker 3: So and it just seemed like a good idea at
Speaker 3: the time until you put them on, You're like, but
Speaker 3: why because it's cute. Yeah, But now I'm like I do.
Speaker 1: I'm wanting like day to day underwear, So you know,
Speaker 1: I have my sexy longerie kind of underwear, but I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I want regular dated and I just thought they came
Speaker 1: in a pack.
Speaker 3: But I'm seeing now that no department store is kind
Speaker 3: of Macy's.
Speaker 2: I don't know what's near you.
Speaker 4: The may the mall Am invitory secret is ridiculous and there,
Speaker 4: and they're cotton underwear sort of like stretches out of it.
Speaker 1: And it starts to like it starts the elastic goes
Speaker 1: out of it quickly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I haven't been burned by coals. I would
Speaker 4: say the lazy stuff like when you pull you pull
Speaker 4: your underwear up, so she got a booty to pull
Speaker 4: up over the lace can like rip. And that's my
Speaker 4: big problem, like all my underwear that's super cute and
Speaker 4: in the gap to anthropology urban maybe not urban. Don't
Speaker 4: go to American Apparel. If you got a butt, just
Speaker 4: don't go.
Speaker 1: Don't go.
Speaker 2: I have any sort of womanly shape, don't shop at
Speaker 2: American apparel.
Speaker 3: It's not before us.
Speaker 2: It's not have you.
Speaker 1: Ever gone to like where's that place? Is it Norde
Speaker 1: Drums where they do the brofit? Where's that place that
Speaker 1: everybody's I've never been fitted for a bra? Okay, I
Speaker 1: think it's.
Speaker 4: I know, Oprah said, I should right, did you watch that?
Speaker 4: Do you remember the bra episode with Oprah?
Speaker 1: No? But I heard that, But like they're like sixty
Speaker 1: percent of women are not wearing a bra that fits them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean like maybe more. But what was crazy
Speaker 4: is you would she would bring on someone with like
Speaker 4: normal sized boobs and they would think that they were
Speaker 4: like a B or C, which I'm like a bee
Speaker 4: or whatever, and they'd be a size.
Speaker 1: F yes, and I al don't understand with somebody, Oh
Speaker 1: I know who, well, I won't say her name, but
Speaker 1: it was a friend of mine who said that to me.
Speaker 1: She was like, I think she told me she went
Speaker 1: to Nord Drumps and she got like fitted and she
Speaker 1: just assumed she's a D. And meanwhile, if you see her,
Speaker 1: her chest looks like like she's she's got like a
Speaker 1: nice frame, you know, she doesn't have a huge chest.
Speaker 1: And they were like, you're like a She's like what,
Speaker 1: But she was like, it's the best fitting bra. She
Speaker 1: ended up getting a braw and she could not believe it, like, wow,
Speaker 1: that my chest is bigger than like her cup size
Speaker 1: is way bigger than she thought.
Speaker 2: I bet that she paid it pretty penny.
Speaker 3: Yeah she did.
Speaker 1: She said, but then she also, you know, I'm going
Speaker 1: to find out what it is so we can share
Speaker 1: it next week. She actually told me where you can
Speaker 1: find the same bra that she got there for literally
Speaker 1: like half the price online and once you know your size,
Speaker 1: you can kind of just go ahead and but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna find it.
Speaker 3: We'll share that because everybody needs a good bras.
Speaker 4: I feel like you can be sixty five or forty
Speaker 4: five or twenty five women. It's hard, it is. It's
Speaker 4: hard chopping for bras. It's never fun, and I haven't.
Speaker 2: Done it in quite a while.
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm wearing the same raggedy yes. I maybe you
Speaker 4: know what I did earlier this year is I I
Speaker 4: cleaned out my underwear drawer and I was like, listen,
Speaker 4: be real, you bought this lazy thing. You're never gonna
Speaker 4: wear it, you never have worn it. And I threw
Speaker 4: out like four or five I donated like four or
Speaker 4: five lacey because that I've never worn.
Speaker 1: Because sometimes you're just like I mean, I honest see
Speaker 1: him just like a regular. I mean, I have some
Speaker 1: lazy stuff just for the but like not to wear
Speaker 1: because you're not gonna wear under a shirt where you
Speaker 1: can see that you know, it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1: And then I have like target bras that are like, honestly,
Speaker 1: I'm always so embarrassed.
Speaker 2: Whenever you get your pack under brow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, basically, so.
Speaker 1: I always feel embarrassed, Like you know you have sometimes
Speaker 1: you do like a TV segment and they have to
Speaker 1: like unzip your dress and like clip like your oh
Speaker 1: oh yeah, always like oh my god, I always forget that,
Speaker 1: Like I want to tell the guy.
Speaker 3: It's usually like some guy, some older white guy who's
Speaker 3: like forty five.
Speaker 1: He's probably looking at my raggedy bra like we're like
Speaker 1: it's hanging out by like one one looper, and I'm like, so,
Speaker 1: while you're back there, don't don't don't.
Speaker 3: Take mention, make mention of my judge, Yeah, my raggedy bra.
Speaker 1: So yeah, So I'm just I'm tired of raggedy underwear
Speaker 1: and I'm ready to become an adult and have a
Speaker 1: better experience because I remember and I won't say who
Speaker 1: because you guys like she's kind of like semi well
Speaker 1: known in the financial industry. Like we we roomed together
Speaker 1: at fenn Kind at the Financial Blockers conference, and we
Speaker 1: were getting dressed and I was thoroughly ashamed. She had
Speaker 1: like such a nice underwear. It wasn't like sexy underwear.
Speaker 1: But I was like, hey, friends, she's a friend of mine.
Speaker 1: What the hell is it how you look on the
Speaker 1: day to day because it wasn't even a special day.
Speaker 3: The I remember being like I actually went to the
Speaker 3: bathroom to chain because I was like, you would not
Speaker 3: see me her underwear was, so I was like, is
Speaker 3: that how you normally look? Is this Are you going somewhere?
Speaker 3: She was like now, And I was like, I'll be
Speaker 3: right back. And I feel like you have.
Speaker 4: To invest in the undergardments because they make you feel good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am, so next time when I come, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be I'm gonna be like, hey, manny feeling
Speaker 1: really good.
Speaker 4: If I'm if my underwear don't fit, I'm having a
Speaker 4: bad day. Like there was one day I'm not even kidding.
Speaker 4: I bought underwear that were like a little too tight
Speaker 4: in the thigh and then you sit down all day
Speaker 4: and they got Yes, they cut like a dagger, and
Speaker 4: I literally went to the bathroom and I ripped them, Yeah,
Speaker 4: ripped them almost off.
Speaker 3: I was like, I just can't do no. But you're
Speaker 3: right though. Yeah, so yeah, no more granny panties for me.
Speaker 2: Oh you're graduating.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm a big girl now finally at thirty five
Speaker 3: thirty six. Wow, old, you're.
Speaker 4: Not that old, I know, but you're too old for
Speaker 4: pack under. What's your what I'll say, well, my brown break. Well,
Speaker 4: there's kind of like two and one. One is procrastination. Okay,
Speaker 4: this is a personal like, uh, failing of my own
Speaker 4: is that I procrastinate. I procrastinated it since I don't know,
Speaker 4: I think I even came out of the womb late.
Speaker 4: I and I feel like a lot of journalists procrastinating.
Speaker 4: We're always on deadline, we always pushing to the last deadline.
Speaker 4: But recently procrastinating has like been really just like making
Speaker 4: my life so difficult. And I've been sleeping past my
Speaker 4: alarm and I've been like and I'm doing it to myself,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, God, why am I so behind?
Speaker 3: God?
Speaker 4: I just hate being at work late all the time.
Speaker 4: It's because I'm procrastinating. And I decided that this weekend,
Speaker 4: on a weekend, and I haven't done this in a
Speaker 4: long time, I'm actually gonna do work for the week
Speaker 4: ahead on a Sunday and just like get my shit
Speaker 4: together because going on vacation next Saturday. I'm so excited
Speaker 4: about finally it's been almost a year and I just
Speaker 4: want to feel a little bit better.
Speaker 2: So I am making it my bit.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna try and getting up, try and get up
Speaker 4: an hour earlier this week to get ahead of things,
Speaker 4: get to the office early. But the thing is, like
Speaker 4: I do this maybe once every six months. I'm like,
Speaker 4: I just got to get to work on time, and
Speaker 4: I'm doing I do it for like maybe a month,
Speaker 4: and I just continue back in.
Speaker 2: My old ways.
Speaker 4: So this is a struggle for me procrastination. I'm sure
Speaker 4: you guys can really out there. And secondly is my taxes,
Speaker 4: which kind of go hand in hand. I'm not really procrastinating.
Speaker 4: What I've been procrasting with my taxes is like getting
Speaker 4: my life together and hiring a CPI hiring a tax person.
Speaker 4: And this is a very first year. I found my tax.
Speaker 2: Guy, Paul.
Speaker 3: Did you what were you doing before.
Speaker 2: I was doing Turbo tax or H and R block
Speaker 2: or whatever it was.
Speaker 3: Yah, h and R block. You guys would just leave
Speaker 3: your fun there.
Speaker 2: So I mean it was fine, Like I mean whatever,
Speaker 2: it worked for me.
Speaker 4: But this year I had things that are more complicated,
Speaker 4: and last year, techn I had things that ever complicated.
Speaker 4: Last year too, I ended up owing a little bit,
Speaker 4: and I was like, I probably shouldn't have owed money
Speaker 4: last year.
Speaker 2: So I had my friend Paul. I mean, I hope
Speaker 2: he's be my friend.
Speaker 4: I'm going literally as soon as we wrap up here,
Speaker 4: I'm going and taking all my little tax forms and
Speaker 4: my expenses and going to the tax guy and hopefully
Speaker 4: it'll be a good experience.
Speaker 3: Yes, tax is honestly, let me tell you.
Speaker 1: So when I first started, it was easy when I
Speaker 1: was a teacher because I loved my tax guy, because
Speaker 1: I came to him because I had touch great things
Speaker 1: about him, and we had like so many mutual friends
Speaker 1: in common. And I came to him when I was
Speaker 1: still teaching and he was like, you don't need me.
Speaker 1: He was like, honestly, your return is so simple. So
Speaker 1: and I liked that about him, So that, like was
Speaker 1: one of the first reasons why I was like.
Speaker 3: Oh, I like her.
Speaker 2: He was like, don't bore me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So he told me used trouble tax. My dad
Speaker 1: actually is a CPA and accountant. My dad's like I
Speaker 1: told you but you know, you don't listen to that.
Speaker 1: And so I was doing terrible tax and then Carlos
Speaker 1: told me, when things get more complicated, then come see
Speaker 1: me because I want you to you know, I want
Speaker 1: to make sure that you maximize you know, what you
Speaker 1: get back. And so when I started my business a budganista,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 3: I was the worst. For two years, I did not
Speaker 3: do my taxes because I didn't even know I had.
Speaker 3: I had no point of reference.
Speaker 1: I had never you know, I had never had a
Speaker 1: business before, so I not I had not collected what
Speaker 1: I spent money on. I had not collected what I
Speaker 1: even made. That was my biggest fear. I didn't even
Speaker 1: know what I made. I'm like, well, how where we're
Speaker 1: gonna pay taxes on? I had no record. And so
Speaker 1: Carlos is just the best. He's like he will like
Speaker 1: make home visits. So I was said, shopping at like
Speaker 1: Shopwright and we live in like in the same neighborhood.
Speaker 1: And two years he had been like calling me, like
Speaker 1: texting me, like come see me, come see me, and
Speaker 1: I'd be like, noor, yes, he caught me at shop.
Speaker 1: I was like, got you, yeah, and he told me.
Speaker 1: He said, Tippy, I did your taxes. I'm like, how
Speaker 1: I've given you nothing, and he was like, no, that
Speaker 1: I didn't know this. But in July of like the
Speaker 1: tax year that you're working on. So in July of
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, he can go to and look and go
Speaker 1: to the irs and say, hey, can you pull up
Speaker 1: everything that Tiffany made, like because people were report, hey,
Speaker 1: I paid Tiffany, So he was able to pull up
Speaker 1: what I.
Speaker 3: Made, oh, you know.
Speaker 1: And so that's how exactly I didn't know that because
Speaker 1: I thought I was like, I don't have I don't
Speaker 1: know what to show him because I didn't have anything.
Speaker 1: So he was able to do that. And I wasn't
Speaker 1: able to really make many deductions because I didn't have
Speaker 1: any proof of anything. But I had honestly not made much.
Speaker 1: So I think I owed like two thousand dollars each year,
Speaker 1: so like four or five thousand dollars, So it wasn't
Speaker 1: so bad, you know. And then after that he was like,
Speaker 1: you need to get a bookkeeper. And so that was
Speaker 1: one of the biggest investments I made twenty fifteen. In January,
Speaker 1: I hired a bookkeeper and it was the best thing ever,
Speaker 1: because I actually just saw Carlos on Friday and he
Speaker 1: was like, look at you. You're two years early according
Speaker 1: to your schedule. But I'm not gonna lie because you worked.
Speaker 1: Because I work for myself, I owe so much money
Speaker 1: because I don't you know, you don't pay or I
Speaker 1: wasn't paying ahead of time. But he told me that
Speaker 1: that's the last year I can do that too, that
Speaker 1: this year I have to start paying quarterly, he said,
Speaker 1: because you're actually like once you make over a certain amount,
Speaker 1: the government will start to find you by not paying regularly.
Speaker 3: But I'm telling you, when I had to.
Speaker 1: Write that check for my taxes, it literally what I
Speaker 1: used to make a year as a teacher is what
Speaker 1: I paid in taxes.
Speaker 2: And I was just saying, well, Sam, what bitch better
Speaker 2: half his money?
Speaker 3: What Uncle Sam is gangs? That's the real og.
Speaker 4: People are so afraid of taxes. It is they you know,
Speaker 4: I deal with my dad every year. He's I don't know,
Speaker 4: I don't want to get in my dad's tax history,
Speaker 4: but uh, there's like a lot of fear around it,
Speaker 4: and you know they don't want to know the same
Speaker 4: thing with checking like basic finances, people don't want to confront, like,
Speaker 4: if they haven't paid their taxes in a couple of years,
Speaker 4: filed in a couple of years.
Speaker 3: You're scary.
Speaker 4: Sometimes you may have earned so little that you don't
Speaker 4: even have to file taxes. There's always different, but I'd
Speaker 4: say so. The question I get a lot of times
Speaker 4: is how do you find a tax person?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I found mine like a really, I mean not the
Speaker 2: best way. I didn't.
Speaker 4: I don't have any friends who have a tax person.
Speaker 4: The one friends, well, I have some who.
Speaker 2: Have text people in other states.
Speaker 4: I know I have you, but I wanted someone close by,
Speaker 4: either near my office in Manhattan or in Queen's where
Speaker 4: I live. And I just went on Yelp and went
Speaker 4: on Yelp, and I found a highly rated text guy,
Speaker 4: and I went to his website. I checked all his credentials.
Speaker 4: I went, I did a walk by of his office
Speaker 4: to make sure he had a storefront. And the reviews
Speaker 4: were fine, and I took a gamble, and I'll let
Speaker 4: you know next week if it works out. And one
Speaker 4: thing people ask too is how much do they charge?
Speaker 4: I think it depends on how complicated your taxes are.
Speaker 4: I'm single, I just my income. It's a little complicated
Speaker 4: this year because I have some investments and stuff, and
Speaker 4: but for me, it's only two hundred dollars.
Speaker 3: Yeah, me too.
Speaker 4: All right, so now it's time for my favorite segment,
Speaker 4: Tips Tips.
Speaker 3: I don't know why I like to say that.
Speaker 2: I like it. It's good.
Speaker 4: So today's question comes from Marquita. Thank you for emailing us. Marquita,
Speaker 4: she says, Hey, ladies, first time. I love your podcast.
Speaker 4: Thank you very much. She's following Tiffany's Live Free, All
Speaker 4: the Live Ritual challenge. She's too focused on saving to
Speaker 4: get the name right. So she has the problem right
Speaker 4: now with her husband. She is currently trying to purchase
Speaker 4: their They're both currently trying to purchase their first home.
Speaker 4: They have two children under.
Speaker 2: The age of four. Four. I can't speak today.
Speaker 4: Let me start over, Marquita, She says. I'm going hard
Speaker 4: and trying to stack up our money and cutting costs
Speaker 4: and areas where it needs to be cut. My husband
Speaker 4: does not share the same ambition as I. Problem number
Speaker 4: one and he is not understanding that you have to
Speaker 4: sacrifice in order to obtain and maintain certain things in life.
Speaker 4: This is really putting a strain in our marriage because
Speaker 4: it's because he is incapable of discussing money matters without
Speaker 4: turning it into a big argument. I recently suggested we
Speaker 4: get rid of our digital cable and downgrade to basic
Speaker 4: cable or looking to purchase sing a streaming stick like
Speaker 4: Roku or Amazon Fire. This has caused a huge disagreement
Speaker 4: as he does not want to get rid of cable
Speaker 4: or even downgrade. I need help. How can I communicate
Speaker 4: this information or trying to get him to understand that,
Speaker 4: because of our income and other bills that we have
Speaker 4: to pay in all caps, that this is one step
Speaker 4: in reaching our homeowner goals. Thank you so first, Marquit.
Speaker 1: Degre Yes, girl, you, me and Mandy have been here, right,
Speaker 1: and sometimes we're still here.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: So we talked about this, like I think the first episode,
Speaker 3: so right, We've.
Speaker 2: Talked about like what it's like to do couples and money.
Speaker 1: So Mandy's recently engaged. But I'm sure you know because
Speaker 1: you listen and you know me and Superman we live together,
Speaker 1: have been together two years. And I'm gonna say we're
Speaker 1: recently engaged too, because I'm putting it out there.
Speaker 3: You are now you shall say face.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying next I always stop him, like, so
Speaker 1: I can't wait for that ring, and he's liked, you know,
Speaker 1: women ask men to get married too.
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I don't know what they do.
Speaker 2: It's coming, so Marquita, so to me.
Speaker 1: So when I first started with drug because obviously I
Speaker 1: with Superman, I you know, I teach financial education.
Speaker 3: I'm the budgetista. And it was.
Speaker 1: Hard at first because he would always tell me everyone's
Speaker 1: not a budgetnista. And he was probably similar to your husband,
Speaker 1: like downgrading cable rather die.
Speaker 3: And just was a big spender.
Speaker 1: And so what I had to because in the beginning
Speaker 1: I was just a big nag and that's probably what
Speaker 1: you sound like, you know. So what I learned was
Speaker 1: to try to find some space in which he was
Speaker 1: okay with saving. So for example, like I would travel
Speaker 1: a lot, and he wanted to start coming, you know,
Speaker 1: and so I said, oh, you know, we should open
Speaker 1: up a savings account online we use ally, so that
Speaker 1: way we can put like a little bit of money
Speaker 1: there every month, so next time we if you want
Speaker 1: to go on vacation, we can just pay for that
Speaker 1: of the account.
Speaker 3: He liked that idea.
Speaker 1: That was like the very first thing that he was
Speaker 1: on board with and so we started putting like twenty
Speaker 1: five bucks a month apiece in that savings account, and
Speaker 1: we opened a joint savings account, and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, the savings account after us being together for
Speaker 1: two years. He said the other day, like, you know what,
Speaker 1: that should be her home account. And that came from him.
Speaker 1: So I had to learn to kind of like get
Speaker 1: in where he felt comfortable and massaged my way through
Speaker 1: right and Mandy, when you first started talking about money.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't feel like it's fair for me to
Speaker 4: compare myself to Marquita, because it's a whole different situation
Speaker 4: for her. She's been married for five years and they
Speaker 4: have two kids under the age of four, and it's
Speaker 4: really it. I can't even imagine how tough it must
Speaker 4: be for you, Marquita, because your goals aren't in line.
Speaker 4: You have a family with this person, but he doesn't
Speaker 4: want the same things you do financially. It sounds like
Speaker 4: you really really want a house and he maybe isn't
Speaker 4: so into it. You sort of call that year goal,
Speaker 4: and I feel like that's for this whole everything is
Speaker 4: stemming from this disagreement you're fighting over the Amazon fires.
Speaker 4: Versus cable because your goals are out of line, and
Speaker 4: I think that's where you have to sit down together
Speaker 4: and talk about what are your goals. He may be
Speaker 4: fine with how things are. You want more, and he's
Speaker 4: either going to be supportive of that or he's not
Speaker 4: going to be supportive.
Speaker 3: I'd be curious to know does he want to own
Speaker 3: a home?
Speaker 2: I don't think it doesn't sound like he does.
Speaker 1: Well, that doesn't necessarily mean like when I first met Superman,
Speaker 1: I remember saying I wanted to buy a home, and
Speaker 1: he was like adverse to that, like, woll what for?
Speaker 1: And so to me, it's just about constantly talking. But
Speaker 1: I had, I honestly had to learn to stop to
Speaker 1: talk and listen to actually have a conversation. It was
Speaker 1: more like I was always preaching, you know, and I
Speaker 1: don't know that that's your issue more quita, But I
Speaker 1: was always preaching and he was always like on the
Speaker 1: other end, like here she goes again. So I had
Speaker 1: to finally learn how to actually have a conversation. And
Speaker 1: a conversation is I speak. When I stop speaking, I'm
Speaker 1: actually listening. I'm not just waiting to speak again, listening
Speaker 1: and ingesting adjusting, what I'm going to say based upon
Speaker 1: what you're actually saying and compromising. So in the beginning,
Speaker 1: it was fine, I'll safification. Then it was okay, you
Speaker 1: know what, I want to put money? So he has
Speaker 1: a daughter, she's eight, and I want to put money
Speaker 1: in Supergirl's account.
Speaker 3: So I was like, you know what, you should.
Speaker 1: Go to your to your job and tell them to
Speaker 1: split your paycheck. Some of it is going to go
Speaker 1: in Supergirls account. And you know the money that we
Speaker 1: said we're gonna put in our joint travel account, why
Speaker 1: don't you just split that in our paycheck too. So
Speaker 1: that was like, that was like a huge It took
Speaker 1: about a year in and that was huge, Like, Okay,
Speaker 1: he gets paid, some of the money automatically goes into
Speaker 1: a Supergirl's account and some into our.
Speaker 3: Account, and so that was huge.
Speaker 1: And we wrapped out like that for like six months,
Speaker 1: and then we just began talking more and we started
Speaker 1: sitting down and writing down plans, and I started asking
Speaker 1: him what do you want? I remember the biggest, biggest,
Speaker 1: like kind of like not fight, but he really wants
Speaker 1: like he's really into cars, you know, and he wanted
Speaker 1: to like lease and buy way Before I thought we
Speaker 1: could afford it, and so it was like it was
Speaker 1: a battle because it does not make financial sense for
Speaker 1: us to get a car. How you know, you're just
Speaker 1: gonna get into more debt. You already have debt just
Speaker 1: to get a car. And so that was a battle.
Speaker 1: And now this is the year, you know, we can
Speaker 1: afford to get a car. And I told him, because
Speaker 1: you know, he was patient. You know that he can
Speaker 1: pick like what that car is going to be, you know,
Speaker 1: And I don't know. It's not easy, and it doesn't
Speaker 1: mean that your marriage or whatever is not going to work.
Speaker 1: I just think that you have to find a common
Speaker 1: ground before you can start helping to shift him towards
Speaker 1: some other way. That really is critical of finding that
Speaker 1: one common point that you could both be on the
Speaker 1: same page with, you.
Speaker 4: Know, right, I think the turning point for us one
Speaker 4: thing that we did so actually, for a story I
Speaker 4: was writing, I went to this seminar for couples, and
Speaker 4: of course I dragged him along because I wanted to
Speaker 4: try it out and then write about it.
Speaker 2: Wasn't helpful.
Speaker 4: It was a seminar put on by the Society of
Speaker 4: Grown Ups, which is this society of grown ups they
Speaker 4: do a bunch of different It's based out of Boston,
Speaker 4: and they do a bunch of these like little dinner
Speaker 4: parties with young people and they talk about everything from
Speaker 4: how to travel on a budget to how to buy
Speaker 4: your first home. And this particular dinner was about couples
Speaker 4: and finances and it was about maybe like eight couples
Speaker 4: including us, sitting around and having like a nice dinner
Speaker 4: and wine and they had drinks. But before we even
Speaker 4: did this, you have to go on to Syday grown
Speaker 4: Ups dot Com and you you both as a couple,
Speaker 4: fill out this like timeline thing where you put they
Speaker 4: had like a little icon for a house and for
Speaker 4: marriage and for kids or whatever, these goals, travel, retirement,
Speaker 4: and then you put them in line with the year
Speaker 4: that you expect to accomplish at or whatever whatever. And
Speaker 4: for him and I to sit next to each other,
Speaker 4: that was the first time I knew that he wanted
Speaker 4: to get married within the next year or two. And
Speaker 4: I was like, you know, and I was the first
Speaker 4: time we had I mean, we kind of had an
Speaker 4: idea we wanted to take that step. But for me
Speaker 4: to see his timeline, it was eye opening to me
Speaker 4: good and it was because we used this tool. And
Speaker 4: I mean you don't have to use the tool. It's
Speaker 4: if you want to. It's a scie Dave grown ups
Speaker 4: dot com. They probably still have it up there for couples.
Speaker 2: And it's free.
Speaker 4: You don't have to like take their class, which is
Speaker 4: cheap by the way, But I would say you don't
Speaker 4: have to use this tool, but you can sit down
Speaker 4: and one sort of goal at a time and and
Speaker 4: try not. I know, it's really hard when you know
Speaker 4: you're right and you know you got to cut back
Speaker 4: on that cable and you sit down, you're like, let's
Speaker 4: talk about this. We got to buy a house. What
Speaker 4: are you going to do to help? Like, you have
Speaker 4: to really try and be calm, ease him into it.
Speaker 4: Do not be condescending or patronizing even though you know
Speaker 4: you're right, or.
Speaker 3: Really strong arming, like men don't want to be strong.
Speaker 4: Armed, yeah, or don't don't don't threaten him, like if
Speaker 4: you don't, then I'm going to or you know, be
Speaker 4: make it a negative thing. Just find out when he
Speaker 4: expects to buy a house, and then maybe it's a
Speaker 4: point where maybe what would help you guys is once
Speaker 4: you sort of get an idea of your goals, perhaps
Speaker 4: bringing in someone else like a financial advisor, or like
Speaker 4: a one one time meeting with the financial expert. Who
Speaker 4: can going to be the bad.
Speaker 1: Guy or just I get in the and also too,
Speaker 1: like I think also I always say like find the
Speaker 1: find his not his weak link, but like find the
Speaker 1: one thing that moves him. You know, everybody always has
Speaker 1: something like like for Superman it was his daughter. Like
Speaker 1: if I was saying, hey, you should be saving money
Speaker 1: for your daughter, there was never any pushback for that
Speaker 1: because that's a find a button, yes, And so I
Speaker 1: was like, oh God, just hold your kids.
Speaker 2: Up in front of him and be like these are
Speaker 2: your children, where.
Speaker 3: Are they going to sleep right?
Speaker 1: Or like you know, or just whatever that is, and
Speaker 1: then use that as the entrance in. And then too,
Speaker 1: I also learned because sometimes this is what I'll get
Speaker 1: from women. So I'm not saying this is what you're doing, Marquita,
Speaker 1: but I would teach a class. I remember it was
Speaker 1: a young couple and they were kind of going through
Speaker 1: this talking about like.
Speaker 3: What do we do? He doesn't want to save. I
Speaker 3: want to save.
Speaker 1: And as I dug a little deeper, I realized she
Speaker 1: was pushing too much so I said, you know, are
Speaker 1: the bills paid?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: Has he set aside for a retirement, like, does he
Speaker 1: have money coming out? She said yes, and he's sitting
Speaker 1: there like yep. I'm like, you know, it's at least
Speaker 1: some money being a set aside for some savings, maybe
Speaker 1: not as much as you like, she said yes, I
Speaker 1: said it.
Speaker 3: So he has the three core components.
Speaker 1: So let's not act like he's not doing anything right, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, like acknowledge the fact that retirement bills, savings
Speaker 1: at least, even if it's small, those things are happening.
Speaker 3: And then from there, I was like, you know, let
Speaker 3: him rock.
Speaker 1: Out there, and then you can push in one direction
Speaker 1: like okay, so instead of twenty five bucks a month,
Speaker 1: let's do thirty five. Then, you know, a few months later,
Speaker 1: let's do fifty. And I told her too, is that
Speaker 1: if he agrees to that fifty, let him live all
Speaker 1: the other cuttings and that no, no, why, like everybody's
Speaker 1: not you. I have to finally learn that from myself.
Speaker 1: Everyone is not a budgetize to everyone is not. If
Speaker 1: Superman is paying his bills, if he has money set
Speaker 1: aside for retirement, and he's in putting money in the
Speaker 1: savings accounts. Well day if he wants to. We have
Speaker 1: full cable. I've never had a cable before where we
Speaker 1: have full When I say full cable everything, but you
Speaker 1: know what those other things are taken care of. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, everybody can't live at your schedule and pace.
Speaker 1: As long as those core thinks they're being handled, then
Speaker 1: that's what I would focus on.
Speaker 3: All I do is when when win, no matter.
Speaker 2: What, got money on my mind and I never give up.
Speaker 1: Yes, well you never came with the second line. I
Speaker 1: didn't even know the second line?
Speaker 3: Is that right?
Speaker 2: Did I say it right?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just don't even know, but it's right now. Many
Speaker 1: did Many did the Black Girl head roll just so
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: She said.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, when win win, So I hope that you well,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I won't say I hope, but I
Speaker 1: watched some of the Grammys and I.
Speaker 3: Was bored for those of it.
Speaker 1: But Kendrick Lamar, first of all, congratulations for winning, right
Speaker 1: because he won more than one when he won three,
Speaker 1: which is.
Speaker 3: Which is well deserved. Obviously.
Speaker 4: You know who else one just real quick to see
Speaker 4: McLaurin the woman I saw perform at from Valentine's Day.
Speaker 4: She wanted Grammy for Best Jazz Album. Okay, check it
Speaker 4: out for One to Love Okay.
Speaker 1: So, but his performance was just it just was so
Speaker 1: in alignment with the Kendrick Lamar that you know we
Speaker 1: have come to I have come to love and admire,
Speaker 1: and it just spoke like volumes and it just was
Speaker 1: so well done.
Speaker 3: And the imagery.
Speaker 2: Yea hand cuffs.
Speaker 4: Then they brought out like the traditional what were they
Speaker 4: the African I think drummers and dancers and the fire burning.
Speaker 1: Yes, and then at the end when it was like
Speaker 1: comptent on Africa and it just was win on win
Speaker 1: on win on win.
Speaker 4: I said, yes, yes, yes, I saw someone tweet or
Speaker 4: say on Facebook that this was peak Black History months. Yes,
Speaker 4: from Kendrick to Beyonce to Black Lives Matter.
Speaker 1: Did you see like the people like the audience. Did
Speaker 1: you see like some of there was like funny memes
Speaker 1: of like people in the audience. Nine brown people in
Speaker 1: the audience were like perplex like.
Speaker 3: Those were.
Speaker 1: Adele.
Speaker 2: Adele gave him a shout out at the end. Oh,
Speaker 2: poor Adele.
Speaker 3: I know I heard about that. I didn't watch it.
Speaker 2: I watched it.
Speaker 4: It was horb No, it was the microphone fell on
Speaker 4: top of the piano during her singing and she froze.
Speaker 4: She could have like fixed it or stopped it, but
Speaker 4: she said she was just like she just froze on TV.
Speaker 4: So she just kept going and the pitch was all off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then she just you know that again.
Speaker 2: She called out Kendrick. So I love you Kendrick lamar.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 3: But you know what I love about Adele.
Speaker 1: It's like, even if she was pitched off, let's be real,
Speaker 1: she can blow Like no one's gonna be like, I.
Speaker 3: Don't know if a duck can sing.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's not like Rihanna, who you're like, well, don't
Speaker 1: come back to me, Rihanna stands.
Speaker 4: If Rihanna holds a pitch, then we are like impressed.
Speaker 1: Yes, but with Adll, Okay, you had it off day,
Speaker 1: but we all know that you have an amazing voice.
Speaker 3: Though so much pressure on her, I know, but I
Speaker 3: just you know what, I just love about her. Her
Speaker 3: personality just seems so like regular and night, doesn't. She
Speaker 3: just seem so nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would definitely want to like have a cup
Speaker 2: of tea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for martini and whenever someone tries to like pit
Speaker 1: her again someone else, She's like, Beyonce, Yeah, she's actually
Speaker 1: I think she's amazing. She just I've never heard her
Speaker 1: just like be mean.
Speaker 2: She has no reason.
Speaker 4: I feel like when you're at her level, when people
Speaker 4: are at that level, there's no like, there's a reason
Speaker 4: why they're not talking about it when else they don't
Speaker 4: have to, you know, to people who.
Speaker 2: Are talking smack about it.
Speaker 4: Even mister Kanye, who thinks that his doesn't singing, he
Speaker 4: spends a lot of time talking trash about other people
Speaker 4: other people.
Speaker 3: And meanwhile, I don't even know how this new album
Speaker 3: have you? Have you heard it?
Speaker 2: I've heard it's really good, but I haven't listened yet.
Speaker 2: I'm so dumb. I mean, I love his music.
Speaker 3: I do, but at the same time that's a problem.
Speaker 1: But you know what, though, a good friend of his,
Speaker 1: who was his friend for a while said, actually that
Speaker 1: Kanye really does need professional help.
Speaker 3: But I'm like, I think we kind of knew that,
Speaker 3: But no, his friend was like, no, not even in a.
Speaker 2: He's going maybe since his mother died, he's just like
Speaker 2: lost his mind.
Speaker 1: And you know what, though Kanye might have had an
Speaker 1: undiagnosed mental illness that has only been aggravated by fame
Speaker 1: and loss of yep and loss, and you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And so because he does not seek Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say that, but I didn't even want
Speaker 1: to give them that.
Speaker 2: I don't know who's crazier.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: He makes Kim and the family look the same. The
Speaker 4: family is very like, they're very regularly tight knit. I'll
Speaker 4: give them that, like they support each other, but like
Speaker 4: he's making them look feel regular.
Speaker 3: The fact that you can make the kardash look like
Speaker 3: regular people. Yeah, like you're the crazy one, Kane, Like
Speaker 3: I'm worried.
Speaker 2: For North, Yes, for real, she's gonna be insane.
Speaker 4: No, I think Beyonce and just like make her big
Speaker 4: blue Ivy stepsister and just like adopt her.
Speaker 3: I was gonna run away from home like I'm here,
Speaker 3: I'm here in.
Speaker 4: The private jets. She's gonna take the jets leave. Oh God,
Speaker 4: So what's your win? My win for this week? It's
Speaker 4: a it's a it's a book. Uh, it's a book
Speaker 4: recommendation and a win all tied together. I have been
Speaker 4: finding it really hard to find some time to read
Speaker 4: books lately, and I've had this one on my desk.
Speaker 4: It's called The Year of Yes by Shonda Rhymes, and
Speaker 4: I've just kind of been putting it off for two reasons. One,
Speaker 4: I felt like I knew it was. What it was
Speaker 4: going to say is like.
Speaker 2: Be open to opportunity, improve yourself. You know you can
Speaker 2: always do better.
Speaker 4: And two it was just the fact that I hadn't
Speaker 4: had time I like sit down and actually read something
Speaker 4: that I wanted to read for a little while since Christmas.
Speaker 4: Really when I had time off and I finally said
Speaker 4: I want to read this, and I downloaded the audiobook
Speaker 4: because I listened to podcasts, I listened to music on
Speaker 4: my headphones. I was like, I'll download the audiobook and
Speaker 4: it's amazing. It is the best and it's about a
Speaker 4: seven hour long audiobook, and I'm I have an hour
Speaker 4: or so left and I started on Monday.
Speaker 2: She's the way that she writes. First of all, it's
Speaker 2: not the.
Speaker 4: Self help book like you would think it would be.
Speaker 4: It's not like she is saying and on day one,
Speaker 4: here's what you're going to do. It's really her journey.
Speaker 4: And she came from a place of owning Thursday night
Speaker 4: television being like the most all these accolades coming her
Speaker 4: way for you know, revolutionizing quote unquote the way that
Speaker 4: people look on television and the characters that she creates
Speaker 4: and writing these three shows, running these three shows at
Speaker 4: the pinnacle of success for her, and she says she
Speaker 4: had never been more unhappy in her entire life. She
Speaker 4: was the heaviest she'd ever been in her weight. She
Speaker 4: had completely isolated herself from any and all social ati.
Speaker 4: She always had excuses not to go out, and it's
Speaker 4: really her her literal.
Speaker 2: Year of yes.
Speaker 4: She one day when she was at her sister's house
Speaker 4: for Thanksgiving, her sister, she has got her sister for Thanksgiving,
Speaker 4: and she's talking about all these invitations she's gotten, goays,
Speaker 4: awards and these dinners and stuff, and her sister looks
Speaker 4: at her and.
Speaker 2: Says, you know what, you say no to everything.
Speaker 4: And you know how when people tell you stuff for
Speaker 4: a long time, but just like this, all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: the one time you really hear it. And so she
Speaker 4: really heard it, and she realized that she had to change,
Speaker 4: and so she spent said the next year saying yes
Speaker 4: to everything.
Speaker 2: That freaked her out.
Speaker 4: So and it helped me realize all the because I've
Speaker 4: grown to love Seanda this year, because she's been out there.
Speaker 4: I've seen her and Jimmy Kimmel. I saw her give
Speaker 4: that speech at the Human Rights Campaign. I saw her
Speaker 4: give the speech of the Women of Hollywood Hollywood Reporter Awards.
Speaker 4: I saw her with that amazing commencement speech she gave
Speaker 4: for the Duke or Sorry Dartmouth last Summer, All or
Speaker 4: Not last Summer. This was two summers ago. Now, the
Speaker 4: year of Yes. All of that happened in the year
Speaker 4: of Yes.
Speaker 3: Oh, I want to I want to read her book now.
Speaker 4: It's really good. And if you've ever been like Shells,
Speaker 4: she calls it the f O D. That's what she
Speaker 4: calls herself. It's called first Only stands for first only Different,
Speaker 4: And that's how she felt being, you know, one a
Speaker 4: few black one of like the only black kids in
Speaker 4: the school, one of the few women, let alone black
Speaker 4: women at the writer's table in Hollywood. First only Different,
Speaker 4: like the characters on her show, Carrie Washington being the
Speaker 4: first only black woman to really run to star on
Speaker 4: a show in like thirty years on network television. So
Speaker 4: the book and it's not just about you know, working
Speaker 4: through and saying yes to all these sort of like
Speaker 4: promotional things, but she talks about being a little girl
Speaker 4: and growing up being like different. She would just play
Speaker 4: in the pantry and write stories and then you know,
Speaker 4: finding her tribe finally, like she had me in tears,
Speaker 4: you know, And I want to listen to it now.
Speaker 4: It's it's an amazing and I would really I would
Speaker 4: recommend the audiobook because I just the way that she talks.
Speaker 4: She really talks in her real voice. You feel like
Speaker 4: she's sitting there, I want to just telling you her life.
Speaker 3: You listen to the audio on like what your phone
Speaker 3: or your.
Speaker 4: So I have an app called Audible, okay, and I
Speaker 4: mean if you go to audible dot com you can
Speaker 4: sign up for a free thirty day trial to give
Speaker 4: you a free download and then she has to cancel
Speaker 4: it afterwards.
Speaker 3: Audible needs to be a sponsor. No, it's sincerely because
Speaker 3: we have like our book.
Speaker 2: Oh Audible they do they do U.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they do Audible. So if anybody works at Audible
Speaker 3: knows Audible. You know what. Actually I lived down the
Speaker 3: street from Audible.
Speaker 2: That's right, just stop on by.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, can I sit the CEO real quick? So
Speaker 3: we've got this little podcast. It's doing good.
Speaker 1: I'd love to because we love reading over here. So
Speaker 1: we have to get back to our book suggestions we do.
Speaker 4: So here's my official book suggestion. You're Yes by Shonda Rhymes.
Speaker 4: And it's short too, even if you don't want to
Speaker 4: do the audiobook. It's maybe a few hundred pages. Okay,
Speaker 4: excellent book, like and I haven't really cried it a book,
Speaker 4: and I feel like I've become kind of cynical. That's
Speaker 4: one of the reasons they didn't want to read the
Speaker 4: book in the first place. But she really she makes
Speaker 4: everything so real. At one point she's telling you how
Speaker 4: bad as she is. The other time she's telling you
Speaker 4: how she's sitting on a bed eating a hole in
Speaker 4: tirebox at thin mints and popcorn and wine and just
Speaker 4: like sobbing and watching Doctor Who.
Speaker 2: Like she's real.
Speaker 4: It's a real, real, raw, raw, raw story. And I've
Speaker 4: I've been that person so many times. And if you
Speaker 4: ever have, like, if you've ever had the dark twisty
Speaker 4: time in your life, yes, you'll really it'll resonate with it.
Speaker 1: And sometimes it's dark twisty times come when on the
Speaker 1: outside it looks the best isn't that crazy. I can't
Speaker 1: tell you how many times when people will be like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I remember like this year was pretty
Speaker 1: was pretty good. But I remember before i'd met Superman
Speaker 1: or before we started dating, it was like New Year's
Speaker 1: and I was in my room like bawling because it
Speaker 1: had been like the best year I had ever ever had.
Speaker 3: Everything looked amazing from the outside, and I was.
Speaker 1: In my room like my life sucks, yeah, And I
Speaker 1: just remember being like, what the hell I'm the loneliest.
Speaker 1: I feel so isolated. I feel like nobody really cares
Speaker 1: about Tiffany, like not me personally, you know. I just
Speaker 1: felt like, how can everything look so great on the outside,
Speaker 1: all these accomplishments, and yet my life sucks. And I
Speaker 1: just remember crying myself to sleep on New yeark being
Speaker 1: like I can't live another year like this.
Speaker 3: And then that was the next year that I was.
Speaker 1: Like, I'm going to make a conscious effort not to
Speaker 1: be like I don't know, just like to live this
Speaker 1: like solitary life that's just about business.
Speaker 3: And will you.
Speaker 2: Said no to dark time?
Speaker 4: Yes, Seana is all about it's a choice coming out
Speaker 4: of darkness. Some people have a really hard time depression.
Speaker 2: It's real. It is real, and some people have they
Speaker 2: need help.
Speaker 4: They need a tribe. She calls out her people, her tribe.
Speaker 4: They need someone to pull them out of that dark,
Speaker 4: twisted spot. Yeah, you know, kind of related. I watched
Speaker 4: the Amy Winehouse documentary.
Speaker 3: I want to watch it? Is that good?
Speaker 2: So it's on Amazon Prime.
Speaker 4: It's really good. You know what's incredible. It was so
Speaker 4: moving to me because they you hear a lot of
Speaker 4: people talking about Amy, but the entire movie, the entire
Speaker 4: documentary is pretty.
Speaker 2: Much old footage of Amy.
Speaker 4: Love it so you're seeing her. They zoom it on
Speaker 4: her face and her eyes. You really get to know
Speaker 4: the person. Like see there, because I will speak. You know,
Speaker 4: when Amy Winehouse was going through her crazy time, I
Speaker 4: was like everybody else laughing about it when they did
Speaker 4: jokes about it on like SNL or on like the
Speaker 4: late night TV shows and all the gossip and looking
Speaker 4: at the terrible photos and like, wow, she's going crazy.
Speaker 4: But I was a human woman. Yeah, she had all
Speaker 4: these toxic people around her who weren't not helping her
Speaker 4: get the help she needed, preventing her even from getting
Speaker 4: the help she needed.
Speaker 1: It.
Speaker 4: It's good, did you ever watch the Michael Jackson I
Speaker 4: watched The Michael Jackson Good.
Speaker 1: Were you just like, first of all, we obviously you're
Speaker 1: already like Michael Jackson's amazing, and then you're like if
Speaker 1: I could not think he was more amazing as an artist,
Speaker 1: it just makes you realize, like, what what a genius
Speaker 1: he was in this space.
Speaker 4: And how hard he worked from like the age of five.
Speaker 4: So that's the documentaries on Showtime, yes or HBO.
Speaker 3: I think it was Showtime.
Speaker 4: It's called Off the Wall and Spike Lee directed it,
Speaker 4: and it's so good, and it's the time period that
Speaker 4: I didn't see. I always knew Thriller and beyond Michael,
Speaker 4: and uh so I never really knew Off the Wall
Speaker 4: Michael or the Jackson five Michael, and uh yeah, my
Speaker 4: dad came from to show my dad he loves Michael. Afterward,
Speaker 4: I saw someone compare The Weekend to Michael Jackson, and
Speaker 4: I was like, several Statesiel Jackson has more talent and
Speaker 4: his left pinky finger than the Weekend. The Weekend I
Speaker 4: was gonna say, yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely gonna give the Weekend. But first of all,
Speaker 1: there's no dancing, there's no Michael.
Speaker 3: The sound of his voice, and that's literally it.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Michael Jackson was so much more
Speaker 1: than just the voice it was. I mean, just watch
Speaker 1: after all, you just realize, like, first of all, he
Speaker 1: was like a genius at five when you hear Sammy
Speaker 1: Davis Junior, all of these like famous musicians.
Speaker 2: Including the Weekend he was interviewed can Be Bryant for
Speaker 2: some reason was.
Speaker 3: Interviewed and a lot which I was like, why are
Speaker 3: you here? Are you lost her?
Speaker 2: So I heard it was a camera about but it.
Speaker 1: Was just so good because you get to see that
Speaker 1: like his genius didn't just erupt when he was like nineteen,
Speaker 1: that it was something that was spotted when he was
Speaker 1: really young, and how it manifested itself, and how he
Speaker 1: listened and how he asked questions and he was always curious.
Speaker 3: It's just such a good.
Speaker 4: That's all related, and that's why I think that's why
Speaker 4: I like Shawna's book so much, and that's why I
Speaker 4: like the Michael Jackson documentary so much, because I think
Speaker 4: it's really easy to look at successful people and say
Speaker 4: I could never be that, or kill yourself thinking that
Speaker 4: you should be that, and you don't really.
Speaker 2: See what work they put into it.
Speaker 4: Like it's no wonder that I'm not like Oprah or
Speaker 4: like Michael, Like, there's so much work and you don't
Speaker 4: see the work.
Speaker 2: So the off the wall shows the work.
Speaker 4: Shonda Rhyme shows you the work that she has done
Speaker 4: to get to where she is.
Speaker 2: And uh so those are like.
Speaker 1: Wonder if I'm gonna become a Oprah, I'm gonna call
Speaker 1: a book the work the work. But that's only becoming
Speaker 1: Oprah status and I'm like, until that, I'll just call it.
Speaker 2: Like, see, there's only governa be one Oprah.
Speaker 4: You just gotta be like Tiffany status. That's true, one
Speaker 4: name Tiffany. There's no like I mean, there isn't like
Speaker 4: a famous Tiffany right now.
Speaker 3: You could be the Tiffany. Yes, I do want to
Speaker 3: be the Tiffany. Tiffany. Well, that was we had a
Speaker 3: long one. We did because we haven't seen so well.
Speaker 3: We talked for like an hour before.
Speaker 4: Yeah, guys, well as always email us, send us your
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Speaker 2: I also a quick apology.
Speaker 4: I realized that some of you guys had issues with
Speaker 4: last week's episode on iTunes.
Speaker 2: That is iTunes issue, and they're working it out. I'm
Speaker 2: very sorry.
Speaker 4: I hope it will be fixed and but if you're
Speaker 4: still having problems, email us at broad Ambition podcast at
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and have a great week, yeah,