1 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, we're back in person. I know it 2 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: feels nice to be in the same studio again. 3 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 2: So close together. 4 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 1: And that's a face I did, so I have to 5 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: say this. So I was walking here and so it's winter, 6 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: but it's actually really nice outside. But I did see 7 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: a guy with a T shirt and shorts on, and 8 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: I posted on Facebook like, just a guy with T 9 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: shirt and shorts on. Although it's winter, it's nice out, 10 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: but it's still winter. And then I wrote, and the 11 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: answer to your second question is yes, so the brown enbition. 12 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: You know what I mean by the answer to your 13 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: second question. If you don't know what I mean, you probably. 14 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: Not hashtag white people. 15 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: Yes. 16 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 3: Yes, I was like, oh, like. 17 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: You know, I thought, I so I have. 18 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 4: I'm really close to my coworkers who happen to be white, 19 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 4: just like very cool ladies whatever. So I'm always thinking 20 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 4: in my head like white people, white people, but I 21 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 4: don't say. 22 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: It out loud. 23 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 4: But I just had to because like last week, they 24 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 4: were sharing this article and the New York Post about 25 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 4: how bulls are a thing now, how bowls are the 26 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 4: new plate that's literally the headline, and within this article 27 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 4: they're interviewing like a yoga instructor from Brooklyn, the founder 28 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 4: of a modeling company online, and they're all talking about 29 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 4: with like sincerity, how bowls are better than plates because 30 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 4: they make food better to be photographed, they make it 31 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 4: easier to consume, they're beautiful. Bulls are the new plate 32 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 4: and they're orders like all disgusted by this, and I 33 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 4: was just like you, guys, I have to say it 34 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 4: hashtag white girls, yeah, because like what and this is 35 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 4: the second article. 36 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: Plates are being done, like being replaced by bulls. 37 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 4: That's the trend now and this is what matters. Oh here, 38 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 4: Oh the headline's even worse. Hot skinny people are ditching 39 00:01:58,200 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 4: salads for power bowls. 40 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 3: Air quotes parable power bowls. 41 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 4: And she has like a carrot and some lettuce in 42 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 4: this bowl. Justine Parker twenty eight and Lily coon In 43 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 4: twenty seven have an exercise date at a trendy skyteing 44 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 4: yoga downtown, but afterwards they don't grab coffee tea your salad. Instead, 45 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 4: they go out for a bowl, a power bowl filled 46 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 4: with vegetables, whole grains and protein. 47 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: Die, both of you. 48 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: You're either going to have a restaurant called bowls probably yeah, yeah, wait. 49 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 3: People will go It'll be the new high trains. 50 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: In the sand trends. 51 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 4: I was talking to you about the whole Canada Goose 52 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 4: eight hundred dollars jacket. Yes, so I was noticing it 53 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 4: feels like high school in New York City and this 54 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 4: is a big city. So for me to notice that 55 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 4: almost maybe four people to five people on a train 56 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 4: car that at any given time, any given day this 57 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 4: winter have been wearing this puffy coat with the Canada 58 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 4: Goose label on it. Yes, And I'm like, what is happening? 59 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 4: Is this the ninth grade all over again? Everyone's got 60 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 4: to have thish jacket. 61 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 3: Yes, it is. 62 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: I've never noticed it before, and then I started looking 63 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 2: it up. 64 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 3: Nine hundred dollars. It's crazy. 65 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: It's so crazy because I was introduced to Canada Goose 66 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: about two no, about three or four years ago a 67 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: friend of mine. We were both saying, like, you know what, 68 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: I can't do another Jersey wintil. We have to get 69 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: a super warm coat. And it was summer, and so 70 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: he did his research. 71 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 3: I did mine. 72 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 1: I ended up getting a north Face like super discounted 73 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: because I feel like you have to have one big, 74 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: ignorant winter coat. Like the type of coat you wore 75 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: when you were five. Ignorant, Yes, ignorant, just just big 76 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: for no reason. Yeah, you know, no shape, no, just 77 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: on you. And so he ended up getting at Canada Goose. 78 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: He had never heard of it before, but it was 79 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: supposed to be really warm, and he was a big, 80 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: tall guy, so. 81 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 2: Like like a rent payment. 82 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, he didn't get it wasn't nine hundred 83 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: at the time. I think it was like three hundred 84 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: or something like or three fifty something to that double. 85 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I would also remember it was 86 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: also off season and this was about four years ago. 87 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: So he got his coat and so that was the 88 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: first I'd ever heard of it, and I've never seen 89 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: it until this year again, so I'm like, wow, he 90 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: was a way of heead a trend. 91 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 3: That's to tell him. 92 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't just me. 93 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 4: I read on the same day I came in and 94 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 4: I was finally ready to explode because I had just 95 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 4: put my coat up at the office and there was 96 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 4: like three Canada Goose jackets and I'm like, why are 97 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 4: we being brainwashed? Like what's happening? There's an art online 98 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 4: on Business Insider and they had written like the history 99 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 4: of the Canada Goose jacket and how it became. This 100 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 4: is the jacket that people in Antarctica who are doing research. 101 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 4: This is that jacket. That's the jacket they used to 102 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 4: keep warm. It's a jacket that film crew where when 103 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 4: they're filming in like Arctic conditions and outside the elements. 104 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 4: It became popular because Hollywood. I think James Bond, Daniel 105 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 4: Craig wore one in one of his movies, and then 106 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 4: I think Claire Danes or some actress had been seen 107 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 4: wearing it, and then you know, like. 108 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 3: I'm like, shoot, he got it. I should have got it. 109 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 3: I could have sold it. For real. 110 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, meanwhile, I got this north face and he 111 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: got the Canada goose, and you know, because I would 112 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: totally sell it and then get something else. 113 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 2: Business opportunity, I know, you know what. 114 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 4: I feel like, it's fine if you can afford it 115 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 4: to buy an eight hundred dollars code, you can say 116 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 4: it's an investment or whatever. But I feel like some 117 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 4: people buy these jackets and it's worth more than the 118 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 4: money in their bank account or like the their purse, 119 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,799 Speaker 4: or like, you know, I just don't see why the jacket, 120 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 4: like one thing has to cost. 121 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 3: And honestly, it's called in New York, but it's not Antarctica. 122 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 4: Listen, go to TJ Max, go to Marshall's exactly. I 123 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 4: got myself a seventy five dollars winter coat two years ago. 124 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: It is still just as perfect as it. 125 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: Was, And honestly, to me, you only need one ignorant 126 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: winter coat a lifetime unless you live like a Canada, 127 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: you know, like just. 128 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 3: One big like a bubble bubble jacket, and then if you. 129 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: Don't, like, you know, you're not rough with it, then 130 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: you can just keep that for a lifetime. Like I'm 131 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: never gonna get another like big coat like that again. 132 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna have my one little it's not little. 133 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: It's a huge north face. It goes to my knees, 134 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I only take it out, you know, 135 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: when New Jersey has decided to lose all of its 136 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: mind and you know it's just crazy outside. But I 137 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: don't wear it often, and I'm like, that's it for me. 138 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 2: People are nuts. 139 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 3: They are nuts. 140 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 4: Speaking of nutty people, I was just browsing Facebook yesterday 141 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 4: and I saw this story about this guy who wrote 142 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 4: an open letter to San Francisco's mayor. Oh boy, me, 143 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 4: let me pull up the article. 144 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 3: You know, it's bad when Mandy has to do the 145 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 3: deep side. 146 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 4: Okay, So it's from this guy. He owns a startup 147 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 4: in San Francisco. Of course he does. Because San Francisco, 148 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,679 Speaker 4: if you haven't noticed, over the last you know, seven 149 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 4: to eight years, has become the epicenter of startup land. 150 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 4: It's called Silicon Valley for a reason. People go there 151 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 4: to It's for Apple, Google, Pinterest, and every other startup 152 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 4: and app that you ever loved in your life has. 153 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 4: You know, even Yahoo has a headquarters there. So in 154 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 4: San Francisco there's this huge it's kind of. 155 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 3: Like New York. 156 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,679 Speaker 4: There's this huge gap between the rich and the poor. 157 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 4: All these wealthy, wealthy tech people are coming in and 158 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 4: they're driving up, driving out people middle class people who 159 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 4: can't afford to live there anymore. And San Francisco has 160 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 4: always had a historic problem with homelessness. Yes, so this jackass, 161 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 4: if I can call him, that, he decides to write 162 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 4: an open letter. This is the letter. It's called open 163 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 4: letter to San Francisco Mayor Ed Lee and Greg Sir, 164 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 4: the police chief. And I'll just give you a brief excerpt. 165 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 4: I'm writing today to voice my concern and outrage over 166 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 4: the increasing homeless and drug problem that the city is 167 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 4: faced with. I've been living in SF over three years, 168 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 4: all of three years, and without a doubt, it is 169 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 4: the worst it has ever been since the three years 170 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 4: he moved here. Apparently every day on my work too 171 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,239 Speaker 4: and from work, I on my way to and from work, 172 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 4: I see people sprawled across the sidewalk, tense cities, human feces, 173 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 4: and the faces of addiction. The city is becoming a shantytown. 174 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 4: Worst of all, it is unsafe. Oh so, here's the 175 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 4: part that really got to me later on. It's not 176 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 4: the longest letter, but here he says, what are you 177 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 4: doing to address this problem? The residents of this amazing 178 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 4: city no longer feel safe? Because he speaks for everyone exactly. 179 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 4: I know people are frustrated about gentrification happening, but the 180 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 4: reality is we live in a free market society. The wealthy, 181 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 4: working people like himself have earned their right to live 182 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 4: in the city. They went out, got in education, worked hard, 183 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 4: and earned it. I shouldn't I shouldn't have to worry 184 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 4: about being accosted. I shouldn't I shouldn't have to see 185 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 4: the pain, struggle and despair of how most people. 186 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 3: No, you do, Yes, he wrote this. 187 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 4: I'm reading the words, Yes, I shouldn't have to see this, 188 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 4: the pain, the struggle and despair of homeless people too. 189 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 4: And from my way to work every day. I want 190 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 4: my parents when they come visit to have a great. 191 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 2: Experience, special place. This guy's name is Justin. 192 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 3: Keller, justin mother f and kel. 193 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 4: You can go try and find him on Twitter. He 194 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 4: made his account private. You can also go try and 195 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 4: find the company that he owns. It's called Commando dot Io. 196 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 4: I would encourage anyone to go to this company's website 197 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 4: and send a letter to the editor or whatever they 198 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 4: have there. Don't know what the company does, but this 199 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 4: guy has just has just made it complete full of himself. 200 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: Because the thing is you can definitely, because definitely when 201 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: I walk through New York City sometimes I think to myself, Wow, 202 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: the homeless problem has gotten really bad. But from a 203 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: place of what can we do to help? Not what 204 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 1: can they do to help to get rid of these people, 205 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: but what can we do and help so that way 206 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: people are not falling into this trap? 207 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 3: Over and over and over like, because. 208 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: One thing I've learned from teaching financial education is that, 209 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: first of all, one everyone does not have the same 210 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: leg up, you know. So it's not that you just 211 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: like to think to yourself that somehow you are in 212 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: this position because you're just so smart. 213 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 3: That's just not true. 214 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 4: I work so hard. I got an education. Well, you 215 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 4: know what, many people got in education and fell ill 216 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 4: or had mental illness or fell on hard times, not 217 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 4: because they were stupid or didn't work hard, just because 218 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 4: life didn't right for. 219 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 3: That exactly, you just didn't have the same opportunity. 220 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: I can't tell you how many super smart kids I 221 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: taught in Newark when I taught preschool, and they would 222 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: tell me, like all the way to school, oh yeah, 223 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,599 Speaker 1: the dead body's still out there from last night. Or 224 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: one little girls refused to speak for nearly a year 225 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: because she had saw scene outside of her window a 226 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: man shot point blank in the head and die in 227 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: front of her. So she was so afraid to leave 228 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: her house because she thought when you left your house, 229 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: you died too. 230 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 3: So what do you say to a girl like that? 231 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 3: Pull yourself together? Three year old? 232 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 2: High school? 233 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 3: Exactly like you better learn in school, because your. 234 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 4: School probably has different resources than a school that's probably 235 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 4: a majority white and different part of town. 236 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 2: It's just, I mean, this guy grew up. 237 00:09:58,679 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 3: In I just don't see. 238 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: And I get it because mister what's his name again, 239 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: Justin Keller. So I get it that Justin Keller cannot 240 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: see past his own privilege and his own whiteness and 241 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: his own wealth to see. But at some point you 242 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: have to realize. And that's the way the world works. 243 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: To me, that's the beauty of life is that one 244 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: way you're gonna learn one way or the other. And 245 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: I had to learn even myself, like going and working 246 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: where I worked in Newark, that you have to respect 247 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: the people around you. Because I think he right there 248 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: wrote somewhere that it's gonna be a revolution, and yes, 249 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: let's hope they come for you first, mister Justin Keller. 250 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 3: You know when there is a revolution that. 251 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 4: Speaking remember the French revolution that didn't turn out so 252 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 4: hot for the aristocrale exactly. 253 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: The thing is, though, if you don't help in general, 254 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: if you don't help bring up the general mass, then 255 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: you can't continue to thrive. Do you think that people 256 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: are gonna stand idly by while you eat and they starve. 257 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 3: That's just not gonna happen. 258 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 4: No fact that he just moved there three years ago, right, 259 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 4: and he thinks this has been the worst it's ever 260 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 4: been in all three years of his experience. San Francisco 261 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 4: has been dealing with homelessness for decades, for decade decades, 262 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 4: and these homeless people have more of a right to 263 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 4: the city, I'd argue. 264 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 2: Than you do. 265 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 3: I guess it's just so frustrating. 266 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: Like, you know, people act as if like, oh, gentrification, 267 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: it's a good thing. Isn't the neighborhood better. It's not 268 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: about that. It's that the neighborhood is better for you 269 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: and no one else. That's what gentrification brings. Of course, 270 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: we want the neighborhood to be better, but it shouldn't 271 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 1: be better at the expense of like I can't live 272 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: here now, like oh, we're going to clean things up, 273 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 1: but hey, you who lived here forever, you can't benefit 274 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: from things being better. That's the problem. That's why, justin. 275 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: But you know what you know, I always say this, 276 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: You are allowed to say whatever you want. But guess what, 277 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: soa can other people. So I'm sure you're being dragged 278 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: as rightfully. So I'm sure there's lots of people who 279 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: agree with you because. 280 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 4: The sick you know, this reminds me. And it's sick 281 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 4: because I know people who would agree with them. You know, 282 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 4: I used to work for Business Insider, and I worked 283 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 4: for a great man. 284 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 2: His name was Henry Blodgett. 285 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 4: He was the editor in chief and I had a 286 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 4: really great experience there. But while I was there, Henry 287 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 4: wrote a blog post about and he would sometimes just 288 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 4: write things. He thought he had gone to a fancy 289 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 4: restaurant downtown. I think it was Balthazar, which is this 290 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 4: like hot spot, hot for brunch or whatever, and he 291 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 4: wrote an entire article about how he thought that they 292 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 4: need to do away with bathroom attendants. Why do you 293 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 4: need bathroom attendants? It's awkward, makes me feel weird. Why 294 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 4: do I have to pay someone, you know, give a 295 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 4: tip or whatever? And he went on and on and on, 296 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 4: and you know, I'm sure he thought that he was 297 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 4: in his right you know, frame or whatever he had 298 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 4: to write opinion, and it was highly offensive. I'm just 299 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 4: get personal. My father, for a long time has worked 300 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 4: as a bathroom attendant at a nice restaurant. This is 301 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 4: my dad and I wasn't always so proud of it, 302 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 4: but my dad has done this forever, and he's really 303 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 4: good at his job and he likes what he does. 304 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 4: And I felt like by writing this article at the time, 305 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 4: and by the way, I've told him this, so I 306 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 4: haven't I'm not saying anything to you guys that I 307 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 4: haven't said to Henry personally. I said that it really 308 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 4: made me feel, you know, as a daughter of someone 309 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 4: who's done that job and you feel like it's an 310 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 4: honest day's work, Like it made me really feel like 311 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 4: he was belittling someone, you know, if that's their way 312 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 4: of making income, providing for their family, it was belittling that. 313 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 4: And it was just you know, casting it all because 314 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 4: it was simply an inconvenience for me, exactly, him. 315 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 2: He who has privileged exactly. But there were a lot 316 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 2: of people. 317 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 4: For every person who was sort of like, you know, 318 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 4: writing on this article, there were many many others who 319 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 4: were like, oh my god, I know, I hate it. 320 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's so annoying. 321 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: It's just so easy to like turn your nose up 322 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: when you have had the opportunity to have better, you know. 323 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: And so I mean one of to me one of 324 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 1: the greatest gifts, I mean, because I was pretty for 325 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: I mean, growing up, we were like broke, like you know, 326 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: we lived in like I don't know, we just lived 327 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: not well but well because my parents look after us. 328 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 3: But like, you know, we didn't have a lot. 329 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: But by the time I was really conscious of like 330 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: kind of how we lived. My parents had gone to school, 331 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: gotten their master's. You know, we lived in a nice neighborhood. 332 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: But to me, one of the greatest gifts was me 333 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: for me to then after school and graduating kind of 334 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: going back to a similar neighborhood that I had first 335 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: started with and working there for like ten years because 336 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: I got like such a better scope of the world. 337 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: It was like, okay, like I see the world of privilege. 338 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: I had lived in the town. It was majority like 339 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: people of wealth. It was like very little people of color, 340 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: mostly Jewish, white town. You know, the best school systems. Honestly, 341 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: everybody kind of went away to like the best schools. 342 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: College was one of those things that like we had 343 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: like ninety six percent college grade, you know, like entry rate. 344 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: And then going to Newark and teaching there and kind 345 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: of seeing like the difference and why not because these 346 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: kids were not smarter, but really seeing how where you're 347 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: born and the opportunities that you were born or not 348 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: born into, how they played such. 349 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 3: A pivotal role, and where you went and life because 350 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 3: those kids were so smart. 351 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: And I've taught preschool and taught in other districts and 352 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, these kids are so smart. 353 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 3: Where's the disconnect zip code? Yeah? 354 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: And then I then to see what they lived through. 355 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: I remember at twenty two when I first started, I 356 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: remember thinking Mandy. 357 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 3: Like, oh, how did they deal? It was too much 358 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 3: for me at twenty two. How does a three year 359 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 3: and four year old deal? 360 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: Like going just like I worked at the bottom of 361 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: a project building, like the day care centers at the 362 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: ground floor, and I would have to go upstairs to 363 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: like go get crayons. We had like a closet on 364 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: the third floor, and like walking just up the stairwell 365 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: and seeing people smoke a crack pipe in the stairwell, 366 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, I get to go home to my 367 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: regular neighborhood. These kids have to come up the stairwell 368 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: and see. 369 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 3: This every day. 370 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: Or hearing people curse people out all day long, or 371 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: mental illness being just so rampant and drugs on drugs 372 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: on drugs, and the dealers at the pimps and the 373 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: prostitutes all day. Actually, I had to finally step back 374 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: and say I can't do this anymore because it was 375 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: bringing my spirit down. My boyfriend at the time told me, 376 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: after a year, you're not the same Tiffany, like you 377 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: used to be so happy, go lucky. 378 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 3: What's going on? 379 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: And I thought, wow, for me at twenty two, imagine 380 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: a four year old and so it's just very and 381 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: it's just so gray and ugly. 382 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 2: Like I think, it's just this is important too. 383 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 4: I think that they're there's so much to be said 384 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 4: about people who know people from different walks of life 385 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 4: are different. I think it's really important when we have 386 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 4: kids to make sure that they have friends who are 387 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 4: wealthy and friends who are poor, and friends who are 388 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 4: different colors in them, and friends with a different circumstances, 389 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 4: because you not just to look at them and say, ooh, 390 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 4: look at that person and what they've been through, but 391 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 4: to learn from them and to that's where empathy comes from, exactly. 392 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 4: And I think if this guy had ever met in 393 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 4: his life somebody who was worse off than him, and 394 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 4: knew them on a personal level. He would never have 395 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 4: written this, I think he would instead of complaining about it. 396 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 4: Maybe he should complain, you know, maybe we should. I 397 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 4: think he has a valid point. Yes, the San Francisco 398 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 4: needs to help these people, but they need to help 399 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 4: them for themselves, for the people's sake. 400 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 3: Exactly, not for the rich people that are coming in. 401 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 2: That's the difference, the. 402 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: Fact that the point of view comes from like just 403 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: a selfish place of like make it better so I 404 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: can walk free and my mom and dad can visit me, 405 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: no versus like, wow, there's so many homes. What can 406 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: I do as an entrepreneur who has wealth, influence and 407 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: connection to make other people's lives better? Not once does 408 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: he mention that in here, And that says a lot 409 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: about his character. What's his name again, Justin Keller? 410 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 2: Justin Keller. 411 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 4: You know what's kind of shitty is that there's a 412 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 4: there's another Justin Keller on Twitter who also lives in 413 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 4: the San Francisco area. And so I went to his 414 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 4: Twitter account first thinking it was him, but he's actually 415 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 4: gotten so much crap, and and he went and wrote 416 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 4: a letter to the real Justin Keller discounting everything you 417 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 4: said in being like I don't believe this guy believes 418 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 4: and and yeah it's sad, but at least people are 419 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 4: talking about it. I hope this guy, you know, I 420 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 4: don't know what it's going to be like to work 421 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 4: for this guy. 422 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: I would not want to work for this commando commandio. 423 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 2: Alrighty well, moving along. 424 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 4: You know who always slays Cookie Darlin Cookie, Taraji p Henson. 425 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, she does always lay. 426 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 4: So what I love is that I've heard because I 427 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 4: was watching all these interviews with Taraji and she was 428 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 4: saying how much she really loves film and doing film, 429 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 4: even though she does a TV show, and she's doing 430 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 4: an amazing film. She's playing a African American astronaut with NASA, 431 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 4: and the book is the movie is based on this 432 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 4: book that came out just past September, which has been 433 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 4: on my read list for the past few months and 434 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 4: I haven't yet. It's called Hidden Figures, The Story of 435 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 4: the African American Women who Helped Win the Space Race 436 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 4: by Margot Lee Shutterley. So Taraji's playing this NASA math 437 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 4: genius called Catherine Johnson. She was one of three black women. 438 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 4: The other two were Dorothy Vaughn and Mary Jackson, who 439 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 4: helped astronaut John Glenn with his space mission during the 440 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 4: nineteen sixties. 441 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 3: Ohay, it's cool. 442 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 2: I've never I never heard of heard of that. And 443 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 2: I used to want to be an astronaut. 444 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, like hardcore hardcore until I was about thirteen, No, 445 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 4: maybe sixteen, until I decided I really didn't like math 446 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 4: that much. But my hero is Sally Henson. And this 447 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 4: is a this is a this is huge. This is 448 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 4: something that you never see. Yeah, and it's not a maid. 449 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 2: Or a slave, yes, or hooker or stripper or an athlete. 450 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 4: It's a really or big mom. Yeah, it's gonna be 451 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 4: cool because how often do you see black women is 452 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 4: kind of wrong. Now, that's awesome math genius black women. 453 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 4: I don't have to see that. 454 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 2: So go ahead to ROGI. 455 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:17,959 Speaker 3: What else were gonna talk about? 456 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: Oh? 457 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 4: One last thing I wanted to mention, so you know 458 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 4: many Pakia. 459 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 3: Yes, I heard about his tweets. 460 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 2: So he not just tweets. 461 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 4: So he he's like a politician in the Philippines really 462 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 4: and he's running for office, yeah, congressman. And he was 463 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 4: running for a seat in the Philippines Senate and he 464 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 4: described he puts his big old foot in his mouth. 465 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 4: Although he means it, he describes same sex marriage as 466 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 4: in his language, the translation is worse than animals, and 467 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 4: he was set it on video. The video went viral, 468 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 4: and then he went so far as to like back 469 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 4: it up on Instagram and basically say that he would 470 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 4: rather follow the Bible, what the Lord says than what 471 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 4: the flesh says, or something like that, which is you 472 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 4: know a lot of people's opinions when they try and 473 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 4: defend bigotrigue against LGBT couples. So Nike said, not today. 474 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 3: Not today. 475 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 4: They are yanking our sponsorship from Many Pacquiao, and I 476 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 4: thought that was really dope, Like Nike is a huge 477 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 4: the biggest sports brand in the world probably and Many 478 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 4: Pacquiao probably just lost millions and millions and millions and millions. 479 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 3: Who's the other guy? 480 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 1: Who's the Floyd Mayweather was like, you won't be I 481 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: won't be losing that endorsement. He made sure to tweet 482 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: like I believe that people should do what they want, 483 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: and I am winful. 484 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 4: He should not be talking though, because doesn't he beat people, 485 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 4: doesn't he beat women? And he hasn't lost his sponsorship. 486 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 4: So let's talk about how it's worse to you know, 487 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 4: I don't see how that's different. Like I feel like 488 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 4: you are, you know the same thing with Mike Tyson. 489 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 4: When you beat women, it's somehow okay, justifiable or like 490 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 4: okay to get over more so than if you, you know, 491 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 4: speak ill of other races or sexualities and such that 492 00:20:58,680 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 4: it's interesting. 493 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: I would both get to the black girl, brown, break brown, break, 494 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: what you gonna do? 495 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 3: What you're gonna do when we break on you. I 496 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 3: just want you to know that Mandy did like the 497 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: most awesome like shoulders me, Oh did I? I didn't 498 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 3: even know. Yeah, I feel like we like that. 499 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: We're like the uh, I don't know, like one of 500 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: those like the something something sisters or like the uh. 501 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 2: The money sister. Right, do you know that? 502 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 4: So you know when you were a little kid and 503 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 4: you I don't know if you I used to be 504 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 4: painfully shy about dancing in front of people. I go 505 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 4: to all my little school dances and just like sit 506 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 4: on the wall. But I'd be dying to dance because 507 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 4: like I love that. As soon as I hit I 508 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 4: don't know what age it was, I just stopped caring 509 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 4: and now I just dance anywhere and I get yeah, 510 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 4: and I I feel like maybe it's because I started 511 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 4: doing zoomba in college, so I just like feel the 512 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 4: music whenever. I love doom but so much. But yeah, 513 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 4: that was like the biggest uh. That was a big 514 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 4: hurdle for me to get over. It's like that fear 515 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 4: of dancing in front of people. 516 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 3: I think most people are like afrazy dance in front 517 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 3: of people when they're. 518 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 2: Younger, even Nigerian's don't you guys say. 519 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: Well, especially me because I didn't think I had much 520 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: rhythm and I realized. 521 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 2: That, Oh I didn't say I was good. 522 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 1: I just you know, the thing is I have rhythm, 523 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: but I don't have technique. That's what's missing. Yeah, I 524 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 1: don't have to and so they're like with Nigerian dancing, 525 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: there's like even though it's like just this natural dance, 526 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: but still there's a certain movement to the hips and 527 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: that I don't quite have. But I mean, like I can, 528 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: I have rhythm, but just I can't do all that fancy. 529 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: Like my sister Lisa, she is amazing. Every times she 530 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: dances were just like fight, I'll sit down watching I. 531 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 2: Hate It's like you go to karaoke and someone gets 532 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 2: up and they really can. 533 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 3: Sing and like, I know right, You're like, so. 534 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 4: Why am I here for my moment? Well, I I 535 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 4: am really bad at salsa dancing, but I love it. 536 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 4: I will step on everyone's whenever, I know, because I 537 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 4: look like I could dance salsae and I'm like really 538 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 4: excited to be there. 539 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 2: So people always ask me to dance stuff. 540 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 4: One used to go out a lot and it was 541 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 4: I can see the cloud on their faces as soon 542 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 4: as I started dancing. 543 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 2: Like, oh, it's going to be difficult. 544 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 3: They're like, she looks like she could be spitish. I 545 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 3: saw the shoulders shimmy, and she's. 546 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 2: Also advertising it is. But I love it. 547 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 4: I love It's like ten percent talent ninety percent enthusiasm. 548 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 2: That's what dancing is. It is I digress. This is 549 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:22,239 Speaker 2: brown break time. 550 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 3: Yes, it is brown break. 551 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 2: Do you want to go first? 552 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 3: Sure? 553 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 2: So I was walking here and said you were excited 554 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 2: about your brown break. 555 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 3: Well, I was excited only because you told me you 556 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 3: have a solution, right. Yeah. 557 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: So I was walking here and I was walking here 558 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: and my pack underwear was riding up my behind as 559 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: it always does. 560 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 3: And I was like, great, you know where and. 561 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 2: I say it again, your pack underwear. 562 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 3: So I call it pack underwear because you buy it 563 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 3: a pack some people. I'm like, people don't buy you 564 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 3: no Hanes. 565 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 4: I didn't know people under the age of forty five 566 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 4: bus underbar pack. It's like past the age of thirteen 567 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 4: and under the age of forty five, you should not 568 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 4: be buying your underwear. 569 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 3: In a pack. I didn't know. So, like they never 570 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 3: fait so one. 571 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: You either have the grandma it it goes up to 572 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: your navel and just like you know, it almost looks like, 573 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: you know, like the sixties bathing suits that are like 574 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: really cute, highwaisted. 575 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it looks like over the belly, yes, and 576 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 3: so it either looks like that or. 577 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,479 Speaker 1: Or you look like a six year old because they're like, 578 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: you know, they actually have like designs and. 579 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 3: Stuff on them or unicorns. Yes and so, and it 580 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 3: just never fits my butt. 581 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,199 Speaker 1: So it's either way too big for my butt or 582 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 1: it's literally like slicing my cheeks in half. And so 583 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: I just never can find the white pack underwear. And 584 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: then Annie told me that there's my problem right there. 585 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 2: Stop buying your underwear and a pack ladies. 586 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 3: But I'm like, but what so what I don't want? Necessarily? 587 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: I feel like either I have pack underwear or I 588 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: have like my lacy numbers for what I want to 589 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: get sassy, you know, so what's in between? 590 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,479 Speaker 4: I go to department stores my favorite so I used 591 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 4: to work at Coals and I hold I hold a 592 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 4: tiny burning candle for Coals in my heart. I just 593 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 4: love it. They have such great deals. So I go 594 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 4: to Coals and they have a great intimate section and 595 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 4: I get the Vera Wang. I love her simply, Vera. 596 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 4: I love her line of underwear. She has like more 597 00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 4: of like the sexy stuff, but she also has the 598 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 4: right regular cotton underwear okay, and then made inform. It's 599 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 4: not a pack, but there's three on a hangar okay, 600 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 4: difference like the grown up pack. 601 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay. 602 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 4: So that's what I get in a full coverage because 603 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 4: I feel like there was a point in my life 604 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 4: when I was in high school and I don't know 605 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 4: why I was, but I would go to like RU 606 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 4: twenty one and I'd buy the dollar thongs and then 607 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 4: they would just sit in my drawer. I used to 608 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 4: have this big wad I like tangled up, never worn maybe, 609 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 4: but once they had like little things dangling from them, 610 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 4: Like yes, I was a virgin until like how long 611 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 4: I did not need to be have dangling dollar signs 612 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 4: for my undermind, like thongs. Nobody wanted to see me 613 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 4: thought they always rode up the back. Yes, they made. 614 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 2: Like a line in your ass you can see through 615 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 2: your jeans and your dress. 616 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 1: Never because I'm like, I'm gonna pay underwear to ride up. 617 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: They're kind of but I have You're paying for a 618 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: wedgie basically. And so I had those same things because 619 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: I would get it from Joyce Leslie. Did you worm 620 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: a Joyce Leslie? It's like rainbow? 621 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 3: Okay, well like that kind of I get it. 622 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: And so Joyce Leslie used to have, like for like 623 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 1: a dollar, they would have like you know, like thongs, 624 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: all this lace and like all this beating. 625 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 3: So and it just seemed like a good idea at 626 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 3: the time until you put them on, You're like, but 627 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 3: why because it's cute. Yeah, But now I'm like I do. 628 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: I'm wanting like day to day underwear, So you know, 629 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: I have my sexy longerie kind of underwear, but I'm like, no, 630 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: I want regular dated and I just thought they came 631 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: in a pack. 632 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 3: But I'm seeing now that no department store is kind 633 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 3: of Macy's. 634 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 2: I don't know what's near you. 635 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 4: The may the mall Am invitory secret is ridiculous and there, 636 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 4: and they're cotton underwear sort of like stretches out of it. 637 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: And it starts to like it starts the elastic goes 638 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: out of it quickly. 639 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I haven't been burned by coals. I would 640 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 4: say the lazy stuff like when you pull you pull 641 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 4: your underwear up, so she got a booty to pull 642 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 4: up over the lace can like rip. And that's my 643 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 4: big problem, like all my underwear that's super cute and 644 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 4: in the gap to anthropology urban maybe not urban. Don't 645 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 4: go to American Apparel. If you got a butt, just 646 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 4: don't go. 647 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: Don't go. 648 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 2: I have any sort of womanly shape, don't shop at 649 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 2: American apparel. 650 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 3: It's not before us. 651 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 2: It's not have you. 652 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: Ever gone to like where's that place? Is it Norde 653 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: Drums where they do the brofit? Where's that place that 654 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: everybody's I've never been fitted for a bra? Okay, I 655 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: think it's. 656 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 4: I know, Oprah said, I should right, did you watch that? 657 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 4: Do you remember the bra episode with Oprah? 658 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 1: No? But I heard that, But like they're like sixty 659 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: percent of women are not wearing a bra that fits them. 660 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean like maybe more. But what was crazy 661 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 4: is you would she would bring on someone with like 662 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 4: normal sized boobs and they would think that they were 663 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 4: like a B or C, which I'm like a bee 664 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 4: or whatever, and they'd be a size. 665 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: F yes, and I al don't understand with somebody, Oh 666 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 1: I know who, well, I won't say her name, but 667 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: it was a friend of mine who said that to me. 668 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,239 Speaker 1: She was like, I think she told me she went 669 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 1: to Nord Drumps and she got like fitted and she 670 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: just assumed she's a D. And meanwhile, if you see her, 671 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: her chest looks like like she's she's got like a 672 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 1: nice frame, you know, she doesn't have a huge chest. 673 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: And they were like, you're like a She's like what, 674 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: But she was like, it's the best fitting bra. She 675 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: ended up getting a braw and she could not believe it, like, wow, 676 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: that my chest is bigger than like her cup size 677 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: is way bigger than she thought. 678 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 2: I bet that she paid it pretty penny. 679 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 3: Yeah she did. 680 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:52,959 Speaker 1: She said, but then she also, you know, I'm going 681 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: to find out what it is so we can share 682 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: it next week. She actually told me where you can 683 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: find the same bra that she got there for literally 684 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: like half the price online and once you know your size, 685 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: you can kind of just go ahead and but I'm 686 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: gonna find it. 687 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 3: We'll share that because everybody needs a good bras. 688 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 4: I feel like you can be sixty five or forty 689 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 4: five or twenty five women. It's hard, it is. It's 690 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 4: hard chopping for bras. It's never fun, and I haven't. 691 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 2: Done it in quite a while. 692 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 4: Yes, I'm wearing the same raggedy yes. I maybe you 693 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 4: know what I did earlier this year is I I 694 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 4: cleaned out my underwear drawer and I was like, listen, 695 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 4: be real, you bought this lazy thing. You're never gonna 696 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 4: wear it, you never have worn it. And I threw 697 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 4: out like four or five I donated like four or 698 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 4: five lacey because that I've never worn. 699 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: Because sometimes you're just like I mean, I honest see 700 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 1: him just like a regular. I mean, I have some 701 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: lazy stuff just for the but like not to wear 702 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: because you're not gonna wear under a shirt where you 703 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: can see that you know, it doesn't make any sense. 704 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: And then I have like target bras that are like, honestly, 705 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: I'm always so embarrassed. 706 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 2: Whenever you get your pack under brow. 707 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, basically, so. 708 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: I always feel embarrassed, Like you know you have sometimes 709 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: you do like a TV segment and they have to 710 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: like unzip your dress and like clip like your oh 711 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: oh yeah, always like oh my god, I always forget that, 712 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: Like I want to tell the guy. 713 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 3: It's usually like some guy, some older white guy who's 714 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 3: like forty five. 715 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: He's probably looking at my raggedy bra like we're like 716 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: it's hanging out by like one one looper, and I'm like, so, 717 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: while you're back there, don't don't don't. 718 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 3: Take mention, make mention of my judge, Yeah, my raggedy bra. 719 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, So I'm just I'm tired of raggedy underwear 720 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: and I'm ready to become an adult and have a 721 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: better experience because I remember and I won't say who 722 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: because you guys like she's kind of like semi well 723 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: known in the financial industry. Like we we roomed together 724 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,719 Speaker 1: at fenn Kind at the Financial Blockers conference, and we 725 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: were getting dressed and I was thoroughly ashamed. She had 726 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: like such a nice underwear. It wasn't like sexy underwear. 727 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: But I was like, hey, friends, she's a friend of mine. 728 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: What the hell is it how you look on the 729 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: day to day because it wasn't even a special day. 730 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 3: The I remember being like I actually went to the 731 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 3: bathroom to chain because I was like, you would not 732 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 3: see me her underwear was, so I was like, is 733 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 3: that how you normally look? Is this Are you going somewhere? 734 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 3: She was like now, And I was like, I'll be 735 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 3: right back. And I feel like you have. 736 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 4: To invest in the undergardments because they make you feel good. 737 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I am, so next time when I come, I'm 738 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be I'm gonna be like, hey, manny feeling 739 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: really good. 740 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 4: If I'm if my underwear don't fit, I'm having a 741 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 4: bad day. Like there was one day I'm not even kidding. 742 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 4: I bought underwear that were like a little too tight 743 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 4: in the thigh and then you sit down all day 744 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 4: and they got Yes, they cut like a dagger, and 745 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 4: I literally went to the bathroom and I ripped them, Yeah, 746 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 4: ripped them almost off. 747 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 3: I was like, I just can't do no. But you're 748 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 3: right though. Yeah, so yeah, no more granny panties for me. 749 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 2: Oh you're graduating. 750 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm a big girl now finally at thirty five 751 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 3: thirty six. Wow, old, you're. 752 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 4: Not that old, I know, but you're too old for 753 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 4: pack under. What's your what I'll say, well, my brown break. Well, 754 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 4: there's kind of like two and one. One is procrastination. Okay, 755 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 4: this is a personal like, uh, failing of my own 756 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 4: is that I procrastinate. I procrastinated it since I don't know, 757 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 4: I think I even came out of the womb late. 758 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 4: I and I feel like a lot of journalists procrastinating. 759 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 4: We're always on deadline, we always pushing to the last deadline. 760 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 4: But recently procrastinating has like been really just like making 761 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 4: my life so difficult. And I've been sleeping past my 762 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 4: alarm and I've been like and I'm doing it to myself, 763 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 4: and I'm like, God, why am I so behind? 764 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 3: God? 765 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 4: I just hate being at work late all the time. 766 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 4: It's because I'm procrastinating. And I decided that this weekend, 767 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 4: on a weekend, and I haven't done this in a 768 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 4: long time, I'm actually gonna do work for the week 769 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 4: ahead on a Sunday and just like get my shit 770 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 4: together because going on vacation next Saturday. I'm so excited 771 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 4: about finally it's been almost a year and I just 772 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 4: want to feel a little bit better. 773 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 2: So I am making it my bit. 774 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 4: I'm gonna try and getting up, try and get up 775 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 4: an hour earlier this week to get ahead of things, 776 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 4: get to the office early. But the thing is, like 777 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 4: I do this maybe once every six months. I'm like, 778 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 4: I just got to get to work on time, and 779 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 4: I'm doing I do it for like maybe a month, 780 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 4: and I just continue back in. 781 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 2: My old ways. 782 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 4: So this is a struggle for me procrastination. I'm sure 783 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 4: you guys can really out there. And secondly is my taxes, 784 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 4: which kind of go hand in hand. I'm not really procrastinating. 785 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 4: What I've been procrasting with my taxes is like getting 786 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 4: my life together and hiring a CPI hiring a tax person. 787 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 4: And this is a very first year. I found my tax. 788 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 2: Guy, Paul. 789 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 3: Did you what were you doing before. 790 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 2: I was doing Turbo tax or H and R block 791 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 2: or whatever it was. 792 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 3: Yah, h and R block. You guys would just leave 793 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 3: your fun there. 794 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 2: So I mean it was fine, Like I mean whatever, 795 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 2: it worked for me. 796 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 4: But this year I had things that are more complicated, 797 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 4: and last year, techn I had things that ever complicated. 798 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,959 Speaker 4: Last year too, I ended up owing a little bit, 799 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 4: and I was like, I probably shouldn't have owed money 800 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 4: last year. 801 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 2: So I had my friend Paul. I mean, I hope 802 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 2: he's be my friend. 803 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 4: I'm going literally as soon as we wrap up here, 804 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 4: I'm going and taking all my little tax forms and 805 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 4: my expenses and going to the tax guy and hopefully 806 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 4: it'll be a good experience. 807 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 3: Yes, tax is honestly, let me tell you. 808 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: So when I first started, it was easy when I 809 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: was a teacher because I loved my tax guy, because 810 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: I came to him because I had touch great things 811 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: about him, and we had like so many mutual friends 812 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: in common. And I came to him when I was 813 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: still teaching and he was like, you don't need me. 814 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: He was like, honestly, your return is so simple. So 815 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: and I liked that about him, So that, like was 816 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: one of the first reasons why I was like. 817 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 3: Oh, I like her. 818 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 2: He was like, don't bore me. 819 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, So he told me used trouble tax. My dad 820 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: actually is a CPA and accountant. My dad's like I 821 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: told you but you know, you don't listen to that. 822 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: And so I was doing terrible tax and then Carlos 823 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: told me, when things get more complicated, then come see 824 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: me because I want you to you know, I want 825 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: to make sure that you maximize you know, what you 826 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: get back. And so when I started my business a budganista, 827 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. 828 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 3: I was the worst. For two years, I did not 829 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 3: do my taxes because I didn't even know I had. 830 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 3: I had no point of reference. 831 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: I had never you know, I had never had a 832 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: business before, so I not I had not collected what 833 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: I spent money on. I had not collected what I 834 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: even made. That was my biggest fear. I didn't even 835 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: know what I made. I'm like, well, how where we're 836 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: gonna pay taxes on? I had no record. And so 837 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 1: Carlos is just the best. He's like he will like 838 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: make home visits. So I was said, shopping at like 839 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: Shopwright and we live in like in the same neighborhood. 840 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: And two years he had been like calling me, like 841 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: texting me, like come see me, come see me, and 842 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: I'd be like, noor, yes, he caught me at shop. 843 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: I was like, got you, yeah, and he told me. 844 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: He said, Tippy, I did your taxes. I'm like, how 845 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: I've given you nothing, and he was like, no, that 846 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: I didn't know this. But in July of like the 847 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: tax year that you're working on. So in July of 848 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, he can go to and look and go 849 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: to the irs and say, hey, can you pull up 850 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: everything that Tiffany made, like because people were report, hey, 851 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: I paid Tiffany, So he was able to pull up 852 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: what I. 853 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 3: Made, oh, you know. 854 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 1: And so that's how exactly I didn't know that because 855 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: I thought I was like, I don't have I don't 856 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: know what to show him because I didn't have anything. 857 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,879 Speaker 1: So he was able to do that. And I wasn't 858 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 1: able to really make many deductions because I didn't have 859 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 1: any proof of anything. But I had honestly not made much. 860 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 1: So I think I owed like two thousand dollars each year, 861 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: so like four or five thousand dollars, So it wasn't 862 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: so bad, you know. And then after that he was like, 863 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: you need to get a bookkeeper. And so that was 864 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: one of the biggest investments I made twenty fifteen. In January, 865 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 1: I hired a bookkeeper and it was the best thing ever, 866 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: because I actually just saw Carlos on Friday and he 867 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,800 Speaker 1: was like, look at you. You're two years early according 868 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: to your schedule. But I'm not gonna lie because you worked. 869 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: Because I work for myself, I owe so much money 870 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: because I don't you know, you don't pay or I 871 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: wasn't paying ahead of time. But he told me that 872 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: that's the last year I can do that too, that 873 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: this year I have to start paying quarterly, he said, 874 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: because you're actually like once you make over a certain amount, 875 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: the government will start to find you by not paying regularly. 876 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 3: But I'm telling you, when I had to. 877 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: Write that check for my taxes, it literally what I 878 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: used to make a year as a teacher is what 879 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: I paid in taxes. 880 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 2: And I was just saying, well, Sam, what bitch better 881 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 2: half his money? 882 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 3: What Uncle Sam is gangs? That's the real og. 883 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 4: People are so afraid of taxes. It is they you know, 884 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 4: I deal with my dad every year. He's I don't know, 885 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,760 Speaker 4: I don't want to get in my dad's tax history, 886 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 4: but uh, there's like a lot of fear around it, 887 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 4: and you know they don't want to know the same 888 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 4: thing with checking like basic finances, people don't want to confront, like, 889 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 4: if they haven't paid their taxes in a couple of years, 890 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 4: filed in a couple of years. 891 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 3: You're scary. 892 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 4: Sometimes you may have earned so little that you don't 893 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,760 Speaker 4: even have to file taxes. There's always different, but I'd 894 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 4: say so. The question I get a lot of times 895 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 4: is how do you find a tax person? 896 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? 897 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 2: I found mine like a really, I mean not the 898 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 2: best way. I didn't. 899 00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 4: I don't have any friends who have a tax person. 900 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 4: The one friends, well, I have some who. 901 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 2: Have text people in other states. 902 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 4: I know I have you, but I wanted someone close by, 903 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 4: either near my office in Manhattan or in Queen's where 904 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 4: I live. And I just went on Yelp and went 905 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 4: on Yelp, and I found a highly rated text guy, 906 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 4: and I went to his website. I checked all his credentials. 907 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 4: I went, I did a walk by of his office 908 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 4: to make sure he had a storefront. And the reviews 909 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 4: were fine, and I took a gamble, and I'll let 910 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 4: you know next week if it works out. And one 911 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 4: thing people ask too is how much do they charge? 912 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 4: I think it depends on how complicated your taxes are. 913 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 4: I'm single, I just my income. It's a little complicated 914 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 4: this year because I have some investments and stuff, and 915 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 4: but for me, it's only two hundred dollars. 916 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, me too. 917 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 4: All right, so now it's time for my favorite segment, 918 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 4: Tips Tips. 919 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 3: I don't know why I like to say that. 920 00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 2: I like it. It's good. 921 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 4: So today's question comes from Marquita. Thank you for emailing us. Marquita, 922 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 4: she says, Hey, ladies, first time. I love your podcast. 923 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 4: Thank you very much. She's following Tiffany's Live Free, All 924 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 4: the Live Ritual challenge. She's too focused on saving to 925 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 4: get the name right. So she has the problem right 926 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 4: now with her husband. She is currently trying to purchase 927 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 4: their They're both currently trying to purchase their first home. 928 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 4: They have two children under. 929 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 2: The age of four. Four. I can't speak today. 930 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 4: Let me start over, Marquita, She says. I'm going hard 931 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 4: and trying to stack up our money and cutting costs 932 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 4: and areas where it needs to be cut. My husband 933 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,959 Speaker 4: does not share the same ambition as I. Problem number 934 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 4: one and he is not understanding that you have to 935 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,760 Speaker 4: sacrifice in order to obtain and maintain certain things in life. 936 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 4: This is really putting a strain in our marriage because 937 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 4: it's because he is incapable of discussing money matters without 938 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 4: turning it into a big argument. I recently suggested we 939 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,760 Speaker 4: get rid of our digital cable and downgrade to basic 940 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 4: cable or looking to purchase sing a streaming stick like 941 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 4: Roku or Amazon Fire. This has caused a huge disagreement 942 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,720 Speaker 4: as he does not want to get rid of cable 943 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 4: or even downgrade. I need help. How can I communicate 944 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 4: this information or trying to get him to understand that, 945 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 4: because of our income and other bills that we have 946 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 4: to pay in all caps, that this is one step 947 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 4: in reaching our homeowner goals. Thank you so first, Marquit. 948 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 1: Degre Yes, girl, you, me and Mandy have been here, right, 949 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: and sometimes we're still here. 950 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:29,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 951 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: Right. 952 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 3: So we talked about this, like I think the first episode, 953 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 3: so right, We've. 954 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 2: Talked about like what it's like to do couples and money. 955 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 1: So Mandy's recently engaged. But I'm sure you know because 956 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,959 Speaker 1: you listen and you know me and Superman we live together, 957 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: have been together two years. And I'm gonna say we're 958 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: recently engaged too, because I'm putting it out there. 959 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 3: You are now you shall say face. 960 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: I'm just saying next I always stop him, like, so 961 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: I can't wait for that ring, and he's liked, you know, 962 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: women ask men to get married too. 963 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I don't know what they do. 964 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 2: It's coming, so Marquita, so to me. 965 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 1: So when I first started with drug because obviously I 966 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 1: with Superman, I you know, I teach financial education. 967 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 3: I'm the budgetista. And it was. 968 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 1: Hard at first because he would always tell me everyone's 969 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 1: not a budgetnista. And he was probably similar to your husband, 970 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,280 Speaker 1: like downgrading cable rather die. 971 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,280 Speaker 3: And just was a big spender. 972 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: And so what I had to because in the beginning 973 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: I was just a big nag and that's probably what 974 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 1: you sound like, you know. So what I learned was 975 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,359 Speaker 1: to try to find some space in which he was 976 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: okay with saving. So for example, like I would travel 977 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: a lot, and he wanted to start coming, you know, 978 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,959 Speaker 1: and so I said, oh, you know, we should open 979 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 1: up a savings account online we use ally, so that 980 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,479 Speaker 1: way we can put like a little bit of money 981 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 1: there every month, so next time we if you want 982 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: to go on vacation, we can just pay for that 983 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:57,800 Speaker 1: of the account. 984 00:39:58,360 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 3: He liked that idea. 985 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 1: That was like the very first thing that he was 986 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: on board with and so we started putting like twenty 987 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: five bucks a month apiece in that savings account, and 988 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 1: we opened a joint savings account, and then all of 989 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: a sudden, the savings account after us being together for 990 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: two years. He said the other day, like, you know what, 991 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,359 Speaker 1: that should be her home account. And that came from him. 992 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: So I had to learn to kind of like get 993 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: in where he felt comfortable and massaged my way through 994 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 1: right and Mandy, when you first started talking about money. 995 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 4: Well, I don't feel like it's fair for me to 996 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 4: compare myself to Marquita, because it's a whole different situation 997 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 4: for her. She's been married for five years and they 998 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 4: have two kids under the age of four, and it's 999 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 4: really it. I can't even imagine how tough it must 1000 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 4: be for you, Marquita, because your goals aren't in line. 1001 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,800 Speaker 4: You have a family with this person, but he doesn't 1002 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 4: want the same things you do financially. It sounds like 1003 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 4: you really really want a house and he maybe isn't 1004 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,439 Speaker 4: so into it. You sort of call that year goal, 1005 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 4: and I feel like that's for this whole everything is 1006 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 4: stemming from this disagreement you're fighting over the Amazon fires. 1007 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 4: Versus cable because your goals are out of line, and 1008 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 4: I think that's where you have to sit down together 1009 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 4: and talk about what are your goals. He may be 1010 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,359 Speaker 4: fine with how things are. You want more, and he's 1011 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 4: either going to be supportive of that or he's not 1012 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 4: going to be supportive. 1013 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,439 Speaker 3: I'd be curious to know does he want to own 1014 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 3: a home? 1015 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,359 Speaker 2: I don't think it doesn't sound like he does. 1016 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 1: Well, that doesn't necessarily mean like when I first met Superman, 1017 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: I remember saying I wanted to buy a home, and 1018 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 1: he was like adverse to that, like, woll what for? 1019 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 1: And so to me, it's just about constantly talking. But 1020 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: I had, I honestly had to learn to stop to 1021 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: talk and listen to actually have a conversation. It was 1022 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: more like I was always preaching, you know, and I 1023 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 1: don't know that that's your issue more quita, But I 1024 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 1: was always preaching and he was always like on the 1025 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 1: other end, like here she goes again. So I had 1026 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 1: to finally learn how to actually have a conversation. And 1027 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 1: a conversation is I speak. When I stop speaking, I'm 1028 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 1: actually listening. I'm not just waiting to speak again, listening 1029 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: and ingesting adjusting, what I'm going to say based upon 1030 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: what you're actually saying and compromising. So in the beginning, 1031 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 1: it was fine, I'll safification. Then it was okay, you 1032 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,359 Speaker 1: know what, I want to put money? So he has 1033 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 1: a daughter, she's eight, and I want to put money 1034 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 1: in Supergirl's account. 1035 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 3: So I was like, you know what, you should. 1036 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 1: Go to your to your job and tell them to 1037 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: split your paycheck. Some of it is going to go 1038 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 1: in Supergirls account. And you know the money that we 1039 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: said we're gonna put in our joint travel account, why 1040 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 1: don't you just split that in our paycheck too. So 1041 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: that was like, that was like a huge It took 1042 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 1: about a year in and that was huge, Like, Okay, 1043 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: he gets paid, some of the money automatically goes into 1044 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: a Supergirl's account and some into our. 1045 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 3: Account, and so that was huge. 1046 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 1: And we wrapped out like that for like six months, 1047 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,840 Speaker 1: and then we just began talking more and we started 1048 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 1: sitting down and writing down plans, and I started asking 1049 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,240 Speaker 1: him what do you want? I remember the biggest, biggest, 1050 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 1: like kind of like not fight, but he really wants 1051 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 1: like he's really into cars, you know, and he wanted 1052 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: to like lease and buy way Before I thought we 1053 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,840 Speaker 1: could afford it, and so it was like it was 1054 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 1: a battle because it does not make financial sense for 1055 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 1: us to get a car. How you know, you're just 1056 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 1: gonna get into more debt. You already have debt just 1057 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 1: to get a car. And so that was a battle. 1058 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 1: And now this is the year, you know, we can 1059 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 1: afford to get a car. And I told him, because 1060 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: you know, he was patient. You know that he can 1061 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 1: pick like what that car is going to be, you know, 1062 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 1: And I don't know. It's not easy, and it doesn't 1063 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 1: mean that your marriage or whatever is not going to work. 1064 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 1: I just think that you have to find a common 1065 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: ground before you can start helping to shift him towards 1066 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 1: some other way. That really is critical of finding that 1067 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 1: one common point that you could both be on the 1068 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 1: same page with, you. 1069 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 4: Know, right, I think the turning point for us one 1070 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 4: thing that we did so actually, for a story I 1071 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 4: was writing, I went to this seminar for couples, and 1072 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 4: of course I dragged him along because I wanted to 1073 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 4: try it out and then write about it. 1074 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:53,880 Speaker 2: Wasn't helpful. 1075 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 4: It was a seminar put on by the Society of 1076 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 4: Grown Ups, which is this society of grown ups they 1077 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 4: do a bunch of different It's based out of Boston, 1078 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 4: and they do a bunch of these like little dinner 1079 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 4: parties with young people and they talk about everything from 1080 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 4: how to travel on a budget to how to buy 1081 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 4: your first home. And this particular dinner was about couples 1082 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 4: and finances and it was about maybe like eight couples 1083 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,760 Speaker 4: including us, sitting around and having like a nice dinner 1084 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 4: and wine and they had drinks. But before we even 1085 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,359 Speaker 4: did this, you have to go on to Syday grown 1086 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 4: Ups dot Com and you you both as a couple, 1087 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,319 Speaker 4: fill out this like timeline thing where you put they 1088 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 4: had like a little icon for a house and for 1089 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 4: marriage and for kids or whatever, these goals, travel, retirement, 1090 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 4: and then you put them in line with the year 1091 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 4: that you expect to accomplish at or whatever whatever. And 1092 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 4: for him and I to sit next to each other, 1093 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 4: that was the first time I knew that he wanted 1094 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 4: to get married within the next year or two. And 1095 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,280 Speaker 4: I was like, you know, and I was the first 1096 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 4: time we had I mean, we kind of had an 1097 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 4: idea we wanted to take that step. But for me 1098 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,800 Speaker 4: to see his timeline, it was eye opening to me 1099 00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 4: good and it was because we used this tool. And 1100 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 4: I mean you don't have to use the tool. It's 1101 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 4: if you want to. It's a scie Dave grown ups 1102 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 4: dot com. They probably still have it up there for couples. 1103 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:05,399 Speaker 2: And it's free. 1104 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 4: You don't have to like take their class, which is 1105 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,680 Speaker 4: cheap by the way, But I would say you don't 1106 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 4: have to use this tool, but you can sit down 1107 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 4: and one sort of goal at a time and and 1108 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 4: try not. I know, it's really hard when you know 1109 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 4: you're right and you know you got to cut back 1110 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 4: on that cable and you sit down, you're like, let's 1111 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,839 Speaker 4: talk about this. We got to buy a house. What 1112 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,239 Speaker 4: are you going to do to help? Like, you have 1113 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,839 Speaker 4: to really try and be calm, ease him into it. 1114 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 4: Do not be condescending or patronizing even though you know 1115 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 4: you're right, or. 1116 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 3: Really strong arming, like men don't want to be strong. 1117 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,480 Speaker 4: Armed, yeah, or don't don't don't threaten him, like if 1118 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 4: you don't, then I'm going to or you know, be 1119 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 4: make it a negative thing. Just find out when he 1120 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 4: expects to buy a house, and then maybe it's a 1121 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 4: point where maybe what would help you guys is once 1122 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,720 Speaker 4: you sort of get an idea of your goals, perhaps 1123 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 4: bringing in someone else like a financial advisor, or like 1124 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,799 Speaker 4: a one one time meeting with the financial expert. Who 1125 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 4: can going to be the bad. 1126 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,799 Speaker 1: Guy or just I get in the and also too, 1127 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 1: like I think also I always say like find the 1128 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: find his not his weak link, but like find the 1129 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,880 Speaker 1: one thing that moves him. You know, everybody always has 1130 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 1: something like like for Superman it was his daughter. Like 1131 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 1: if I was saying, hey, you should be saving money 1132 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 1: for your daughter, there was never any pushback for that 1133 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,799 Speaker 1: because that's a find a button, yes, And so I 1134 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 1: was like, oh God, just hold your kids. 1135 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:26,680 Speaker 2: Up in front of him and be like these are 1136 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 2: your children, where. 1137 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:28,799 Speaker 3: Are they going to sleep right? 1138 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 1: Or like you know, or just whatever that is, and 1139 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 1: then use that as the entrance in. And then too, 1140 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,359 Speaker 1: I also learned because sometimes this is what I'll get 1141 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 1: from women. So I'm not saying this is what you're doing, Marquita, 1142 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 1: but I would teach a class. I remember it was 1143 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,759 Speaker 1: a young couple and they were kind of going through 1144 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:42,719 Speaker 1: this talking about like. 1145 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,279 Speaker 3: What do we do? He doesn't want to save. I 1146 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:44,759 Speaker 3: want to save. 1147 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,319 Speaker 1: And as I dug a little deeper, I realized she 1148 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 1: was pushing too much so I said, you know, are 1149 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:50,720 Speaker 1: the bills paid? 1150 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:51,719 Speaker 3: Yes? 1151 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,279 Speaker 1: Has he set aside for a retirement, like, does he 1152 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 1: have money coming out? She said yes, and he's sitting 1153 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,680 Speaker 1: there like yep. I'm like, you know, it's at least 1154 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,359 Speaker 1: some money being a set aside for some savings, maybe 1155 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 1: not as much as you like, she said yes, I 1156 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:03,719 Speaker 1: said it. 1157 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 3: So he has the three core components. 1158 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 1: So let's not act like he's not doing anything right, right, Yeah, 1159 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:12,080 Speaker 1: you know, like acknowledge the fact that retirement bills, savings 1160 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,360 Speaker 1: at least, even if it's small, those things are happening. 1161 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,480 Speaker 3: And then from there, I was like, you know, let 1162 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 3: him rock. 1163 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 1: Out there, and then you can push in one direction 1164 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,919 Speaker 1: like okay, so instead of twenty five bucks a month, 1165 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,480 Speaker 1: let's do thirty five. Then, you know, a few months later, 1166 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,799 Speaker 1: let's do fifty. And I told her too, is that 1167 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 1: if he agrees to that fifty, let him live all 1168 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 1: the other cuttings and that no, no, why, like everybody's 1169 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:36,840 Speaker 1: not you. I have to finally learn that from myself. 1170 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,880 Speaker 1: Everyone is not a budgetize to everyone is not. If 1171 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 1: Superman is paying his bills, if he has money set 1172 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,759 Speaker 1: aside for retirement, and he's in putting money in the 1173 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,440 Speaker 1: savings accounts. Well day if he wants to. We have 1174 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,319 Speaker 1: full cable. I've never had a cable before where we 1175 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 1: have full When I say full cable everything, but you 1176 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 1: know what those other things are taken care of. So 1177 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, everybody can't live at your schedule and pace. 1178 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 1: As long as those core thinks they're being handled, then 1179 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 1: that's what I would focus on. 1180 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 3: All I do is when when win, no matter. 1181 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,400 Speaker 2: What, got money on my mind and I never give up. 1182 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 1: Yes, well you never came with the second line. I 1183 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 1: didn't even know the second line? 1184 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:28,480 Speaker 3: Is that right? 1185 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 2: Did I say it right? 1186 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1187 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,359 Speaker 1: I just don't even know, but it's right now. Many 1188 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 1: did Many did the Black Girl head roll just so 1189 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:34,719 Speaker 1: you know. 1190 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:35,360 Speaker 3: She said. 1191 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:42,120 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, when win win, So I hope that you well, 1192 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:43,759 Speaker 1: I don't know. I won't say I hope, but I 1193 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 1: watched some of the Grammys and I. 1194 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 3: Was bored for those of it. 1195 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:53,360 Speaker 1: But Kendrick Lamar, first of all, congratulations for winning, right 1196 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 1: because he won more than one when he won three, 1197 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 1: which is. 1198 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 3: Which is well deserved. Obviously. 1199 00:48:58,360 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 4: You know who else one just real quick to see 1200 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,279 Speaker 4: McLaurin the woman I saw perform at from Valentine's Day. 1201 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,360 Speaker 4: She wanted Grammy for Best Jazz Album. Okay, check it 1202 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:07,680 Speaker 4: out for One to Love Okay. 1203 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 1: So, but his performance was just it just was so 1204 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 1: in alignment with the Kendrick Lamar that you know we 1205 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,240 Speaker 1: have come to I have come to love and admire, 1206 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 1: and it just spoke like volumes and it just was 1207 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 1: so well done. 1208 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,680 Speaker 3: And the imagery. 1209 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 2: Yea hand cuffs. 1210 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,359 Speaker 4: Then they brought out like the traditional what were they 1211 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,920 Speaker 4: the African I think drummers and dancers and the fire burning. 1212 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,400 Speaker 1: Yes, and then at the end when it was like 1213 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,200 Speaker 1: comptent on Africa and it just was win on win 1214 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 1: on win on win. 1215 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,319 Speaker 4: I said, yes, yes, yes, I saw someone tweet or 1216 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,839 Speaker 4: say on Facebook that this was peak Black History months. Yes, 1217 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,720 Speaker 4: from Kendrick to Beyonce to Black Lives Matter. 1218 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,080 Speaker 1: Did you see like the people like the audience. Did 1219 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:50,720 Speaker 1: you see like some of there was like funny memes 1220 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,360 Speaker 1: of like people in the audience. Nine brown people in 1221 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,319 Speaker 1: the audience were like perplex like. 1222 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 3: Those were. 1223 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 1: Adele. 1224 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,160 Speaker 2: Adele gave him a shout out at the end. Oh, 1225 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:02,720 Speaker 2: poor Adele. 1226 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 3: I know I heard about that. I didn't watch it. 1227 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:05,920 Speaker 2: I watched it. 1228 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,759 Speaker 4: It was horb No, it was the microphone fell on 1229 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 4: top of the piano during her singing and she froze. 1230 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,719 Speaker 4: She could have like fixed it or stopped it, but 1231 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,840 Speaker 4: she said she was just like she just froze on TV. 1232 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 4: So she just kept going and the pitch was all off. 1233 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then she just you know that again. 1234 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,640 Speaker 2: She called out Kendrick. So I love you Kendrick lamar. 1235 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:26,080 Speaker 1: Oh. 1236 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:27,360 Speaker 3: But you know what I love about Adele. 1237 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 1: It's like, even if she was pitched off, let's be real, 1238 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,160 Speaker 1: she can blow Like no one's gonna be like, I. 1239 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:32,239 Speaker 3: Don't know if a duck can sing. 1240 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,919 Speaker 1: Okay, it's not like Rihanna, who you're like, well, don't 1241 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,160 Speaker 1: come back to me, Rihanna stands. 1242 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,880 Speaker 4: If Rihanna holds a pitch, then we are like impressed. 1243 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 1: Yes, but with Adll, Okay, you had it off day, 1244 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 1: but we all know that you have an amazing voice. 1245 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,120 Speaker 3: Though so much pressure on her, I know, but I 1246 00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:47,759 Speaker 3: just you know what, I just love about her. Her 1247 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,800 Speaker 3: personality just seems so like regular and night, doesn't. She 1248 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 3: just seem so nice. 1249 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would definitely want to like have a cup 1250 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 2: of tea. 1251 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, for martini and whenever someone tries to like pit 1252 00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,440 Speaker 1: her again someone else, She's like, Beyonce, Yeah, she's actually 1253 00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 1: I think she's amazing. She just I've never heard her 1254 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,160 Speaker 1: just like be mean. 1255 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:06,640 Speaker 2: She has no reason. 1256 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,200 Speaker 4: I feel like when you're at her level, when people 1257 00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,319 Speaker 4: are at that level, there's no like, there's a reason 1258 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,120 Speaker 4: why they're not talking about it when else they don't 1259 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:14,560 Speaker 4: have to, you know, to people who. 1260 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:15,400 Speaker 2: Are talking smack about it. 1261 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,840 Speaker 4: Even mister Kanye, who thinks that his doesn't singing, he 1262 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,920 Speaker 4: spends a lot of time talking trash about other people 1263 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:22,600 Speaker 4: other people. 1264 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,720 Speaker 3: And meanwhile, I don't even know how this new album 1265 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:25,759 Speaker 3: have you? Have you heard it? 1266 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 2: I've heard it's really good, but I haven't listened yet. 1267 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,840 Speaker 2: I'm so dumb. I mean, I love his music. 1268 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,520 Speaker 3: I do, but at the same time that's a problem. 1269 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,759 Speaker 1: But you know what, though, a good friend of his, 1270 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,239 Speaker 1: who was his friend for a while said, actually that 1271 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:37,799 Speaker 1: Kanye really does need professional help. 1272 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 3: But I'm like, I think we kind of knew that, 1273 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:40,759 Speaker 3: But no, his friend was like, no, not even in a. 1274 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,640 Speaker 2: He's going maybe since his mother died, he's just like 1275 00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:44,439 Speaker 2: lost his mind. 1276 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,279 Speaker 1: And you know what, though Kanye might have had an 1277 00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 1: undiagnosed mental illness that has only been aggravated by fame 1278 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,400 Speaker 1: and loss of yep and loss, and you know what 1279 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,439 Speaker 1: I mean. And so because he does not seek Yeah, 1280 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:56,839 Speaker 1: I was gonna say that, but I didn't even want 1281 00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:57,359 Speaker 1: to give them that. 1282 00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:58,440 Speaker 2: I don't know who's crazier. 1283 00:51:58,480 --> 00:51:58,680 Speaker 3: Now. 1284 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,600 Speaker 4: He makes Kim and the family look the same. The 1285 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 4: family is very like, they're very regularly tight knit. I'll 1286 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,239 Speaker 4: give them that, like they support each other, but like 1287 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:09,760 Speaker 4: he's making them look feel regular. 1288 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:12,800 Speaker 3: The fact that you can make the kardash look like 1289 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,279 Speaker 3: regular people. Yeah, like you're the crazy one, Kane, Like 1290 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:16,000 Speaker 3: I'm worried. 1291 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,719 Speaker 2: For North, Yes, for real, she's gonna be insane. 1292 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,239 Speaker 4: No, I think Beyonce and just like make her big 1293 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,279 Speaker 4: blue Ivy stepsister and just like adopt her. 1294 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,359 Speaker 3: I was gonna run away from home like I'm here, 1295 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 3: I'm here in. 1296 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,600 Speaker 4: The private jets. She's gonna take the jets leave. Oh God, 1297 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:34,279 Speaker 4: So what's your win? My win for this week? It's 1298 00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,280 Speaker 4: a it's a it's a book. Uh, it's a book 1299 00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 4: recommendation and a win all tied together. I have been 1300 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,719 Speaker 4: finding it really hard to find some time to read 1301 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,719 Speaker 4: books lately, and I've had this one on my desk. 1302 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,920 Speaker 4: It's called The Year of Yes by Shonda Rhymes, and 1303 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,320 Speaker 4: I've just kind of been putting it off for two reasons. One, 1304 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,160 Speaker 4: I felt like I knew it was. What it was 1305 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:53,399 Speaker 4: going to say is like. 1306 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,440 Speaker 2: Be open to opportunity, improve yourself. You know you can 1307 00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:57,239 Speaker 2: always do better. 1308 00:52:58,040 --> 00:52:59,759 Speaker 4: And two it was just the fact that I hadn't 1309 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,680 Speaker 4: had time I like sit down and actually read something 1310 00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 4: that I wanted to read for a little while since Christmas. 1311 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,799 Speaker 4: Really when I had time off and I finally said 1312 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,520 Speaker 4: I want to read this, and I downloaded the audiobook 1313 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,319 Speaker 4: because I listened to podcasts, I listened to music on 1314 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,839 Speaker 4: my headphones. I was like, I'll download the audiobook and 1315 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 4: it's amazing. It is the best and it's about a 1316 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,359 Speaker 4: seven hour long audiobook, and I'm I have an hour 1317 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:22,960 Speaker 4: or so left and I started on Monday. 1318 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,359 Speaker 2: She's the way that she writes. First of all, it's 1319 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:26,680 Speaker 2: not the. 1320 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,040 Speaker 4: Self help book like you would think it would be. 1321 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,480 Speaker 4: It's not like she is saying and on day one, 1322 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,720 Speaker 4: here's what you're going to do. It's really her journey. 1323 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,680 Speaker 4: And she came from a place of owning Thursday night 1324 00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:40,319 Speaker 4: television being like the most all these accolades coming her 1325 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,360 Speaker 4: way for you know, revolutionizing quote unquote the way that 1326 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,600 Speaker 4: people look on television and the characters that she creates 1327 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,120 Speaker 4: and writing these three shows, running these three shows at 1328 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,600 Speaker 4: the pinnacle of success for her, and she says she 1329 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,200 Speaker 4: had never been more unhappy in her entire life. She 1330 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,080 Speaker 4: was the heaviest she'd ever been in her weight. She 1331 00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,319 Speaker 4: had completely isolated herself from any and all social ati. 1332 00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,480 Speaker 4: She always had excuses not to go out, and it's 1333 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,920 Speaker 4: really her her literal. 1334 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:06,320 Speaker 2: Year of yes. 1335 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,839 Speaker 4: She one day when she was at her sister's house 1336 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,279 Speaker 4: for Thanksgiving, her sister, she has got her sister for Thanksgiving, 1337 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,000 Speaker 4: and she's talking about all these invitations she's gotten, goays, 1338 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,000 Speaker 4: awards and these dinners and stuff, and her sister looks 1339 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:17,360 Speaker 4: at her and. 1340 00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,279 Speaker 2: Says, you know what, you say no to everything. 1341 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:21,920 Speaker 4: And you know how when people tell you stuff for 1342 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,919 Speaker 4: a long time, but just like this, all of a sudden, 1343 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,440 Speaker 4: the one time you really hear it. And so she 1344 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:30,360 Speaker 4: really heard it, and she realized that she had to change, 1345 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,600 Speaker 4: and so she spent said the next year saying yes 1346 00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:33,200 Speaker 4: to everything. 1347 00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:33,920 Speaker 2: That freaked her out. 1348 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,839 Speaker 4: So and it helped me realize all the because I've 1349 00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,040 Speaker 4: grown to love Seanda this year, because she's been out there. 1350 00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,200 Speaker 4: I've seen her and Jimmy Kimmel. I saw her give 1351 00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,839 Speaker 4: that speech at the Human Rights Campaign. I saw her 1352 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,880 Speaker 4: give the speech of the Women of Hollywood Hollywood Reporter Awards. 1353 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,520 Speaker 4: I saw her with that amazing commencement speech she gave 1354 00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:55,360 Speaker 4: for the Duke or Sorry Dartmouth last Summer, All or 1355 00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,319 Speaker 4: Not last Summer. This was two summers ago. Now, the 1356 00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,880 Speaker 4: year of Yes. All of that happened in the year 1357 00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:00,319 Speaker 4: of Yes. 1358 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:01,960 Speaker 3: Oh, I want to I want to read her book now. 1359 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,240 Speaker 4: It's really good. And if you've ever been like Shells, 1360 00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,640 Speaker 4: she calls it the f O D. That's what she 1361 00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:11,560 Speaker 4: calls herself. It's called first Only stands for first only Different, 1362 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,080 Speaker 4: And that's how she felt being, you know, one a 1363 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,239 Speaker 4: few black one of like the only black kids in 1364 00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,000 Speaker 4: the school, one of the few women, let alone black 1365 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,400 Speaker 4: women at the writer's table in Hollywood. First only Different, 1366 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,400 Speaker 4: like the characters on her show, Carrie Washington being the 1367 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,960 Speaker 4: first only black woman to really run to star on 1368 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:33,520 Speaker 4: a show in like thirty years on network television. So 1369 00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,840 Speaker 4: the book and it's not just about you know, working 1370 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:37,719 Speaker 4: through and saying yes to all these sort of like 1371 00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,880 Speaker 4: promotional things, but she talks about being a little girl 1372 00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,040 Speaker 4: and growing up being like different. She would just play 1373 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,600 Speaker 4: in the pantry and write stories and then you know, 1374 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,520 Speaker 4: finding her tribe finally, like she had me in tears, 1375 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 4: you know, And I want to listen to it now. 1376 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,279 Speaker 4: It's it's an amazing and I would really I would 1377 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,720 Speaker 4: recommend the audiobook because I just the way that she talks. 1378 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,600 Speaker 4: She really talks in her real voice. You feel like 1379 00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,760 Speaker 4: she's sitting there, I want to just telling you her life. 1380 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:01,959 Speaker 3: You listen to the audio on like what your phone 1381 00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:02,319 Speaker 3: or your. 1382 00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,560 Speaker 4: So I have an app called Audible, okay, and I 1383 00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,120 Speaker 4: mean if you go to audible dot com you can 1384 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,120 Speaker 4: sign up for a free thirty day trial to give 1385 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 4: you a free download and then she has to cancel 1386 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:11,160 Speaker 4: it afterwards. 1387 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,520 Speaker 3: Audible needs to be a sponsor. No, it's sincerely because 1388 00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:15,319 Speaker 3: we have like our book. 1389 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,000 Speaker 2: Oh Audible they do they do U. 1390 00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, they do Audible. So if anybody works at Audible 1391 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,840 Speaker 3: knows Audible. You know what. Actually I lived down the 1392 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:22,640 Speaker 3: street from Audible. 1393 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,920 Speaker 2: That's right, just stop on by. 1394 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, can I sit the CEO real quick? So 1395 00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,719 Speaker 3: we've got this little podcast. It's doing good. 1396 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,359 Speaker 1: I'd love to because we love reading over here. So 1397 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,640 Speaker 1: we have to get back to our book suggestions we do. 1398 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:39,000 Speaker 4: So here's my official book suggestion. You're Yes by Shonda Rhymes. 1399 00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:40,440 Speaker 4: And it's short too, even if you don't want to 1400 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,240 Speaker 4: do the audiobook. It's maybe a few hundred pages. Okay, 1401 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,879 Speaker 4: excellent book, like and I haven't really cried it a book, 1402 00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,279 Speaker 4: and I feel like I've become kind of cynical. That's 1403 00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:50,440 Speaker 4: one of the reasons they didn't want to read the 1404 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,919 Speaker 4: book in the first place. But she really she makes 1405 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,040 Speaker 4: everything so real. At one point she's telling you how 1406 00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:56,799 Speaker 4: bad as she is. The other time she's telling you 1407 00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:58,719 Speaker 4: how she's sitting on a bed eating a hole in 1408 00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:02,000 Speaker 4: tirebox at thin mints and popcorn and wine and just 1409 00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:03,719 Speaker 4: like sobbing and watching Doctor Who. 1410 00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:05,319 Speaker 2: Like she's real. 1411 00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,520 Speaker 4: It's a real, real, raw, raw, raw story. And I've 1412 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,160 Speaker 4: I've been that person so many times. And if you 1413 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,080 Speaker 4: ever have, like, if you've ever had the dark twisty 1414 00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:16,000 Speaker 4: time in your life, yes, you'll really it'll resonate with it. 1415 00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,640 Speaker 1: And sometimes it's dark twisty times come when on the 1416 00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,640 Speaker 1: outside it looks the best isn't that crazy. I can't 1417 00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:22,880 Speaker 1: tell you how many times when people will be like, 1418 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,320 Speaker 1: oh my god, I remember like this year was pretty 1419 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,640 Speaker 1: was pretty good. But I remember before i'd met Superman 1420 00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,440 Speaker 1: or before we started dating, it was like New Year's 1421 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,240 Speaker 1: and I was in my room like bawling because it 1422 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,280 Speaker 1: had been like the best year I had ever ever had. 1423 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,240 Speaker 3: Everything looked amazing from the outside, and I was. 1424 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,760 Speaker 1: In my room like my life sucks, yeah, And I 1425 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,400 Speaker 1: just remember being like, what the hell I'm the loneliest. 1426 00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,680 Speaker 1: I feel so isolated. I feel like nobody really cares 1427 00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,840 Speaker 1: about Tiffany, like not me personally, you know. I just 1428 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,480 Speaker 1: felt like, how can everything look so great on the outside, 1429 00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,800 Speaker 1: all these accomplishments, and yet my life sucks. And I 1430 00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,400 Speaker 1: just remember crying myself to sleep on New yeark being 1431 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:01,720 Speaker 1: like I can't live another year like this. 1432 00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:03,280 Speaker 3: And then that was the next year that I was. 1433 00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,840 Speaker 1: Like, I'm going to make a conscious effort not to 1434 00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,800 Speaker 1: be like I don't know, just like to live this 1435 00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,760 Speaker 1: like solitary life that's just about business. 1436 00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:12,320 Speaker 3: And will you. 1437 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:13,760 Speaker 2: Said no to dark time? 1438 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,720 Speaker 4: Yes, Seana is all about it's a choice coming out 1439 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:18,760 Speaker 4: of darkness. Some people have a really hard time depression. 1440 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:20,880 Speaker 2: It's real. It is real, and some people have they 1441 00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:21,560 Speaker 2: need help. 1442 00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,360 Speaker 4: They need a tribe. She calls out her people, her tribe. 1443 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,240 Speaker 4: They need someone to pull them out of that dark, 1444 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,360 Speaker 4: twisted spot. Yeah, you know, kind of related. I watched 1445 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:30,800 Speaker 4: the Amy Winehouse documentary. 1446 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:31,919 Speaker 3: I want to watch it? Is that good? 1447 00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:33,360 Speaker 2: So it's on Amazon Prime. 1448 00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,880 Speaker 4: It's really good. You know what's incredible. It was so 1449 00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,000 Speaker 4: moving to me because they you hear a lot of 1450 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,640 Speaker 4: people talking about Amy, but the entire movie, the entire 1451 00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:42,880 Speaker 4: documentary is pretty. 1452 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:43,920 Speaker 2: Much old footage of Amy. 1453 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,280 Speaker 4: Love it so you're seeing her. They zoom it on 1454 00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,200 Speaker 4: her face and her eyes. You really get to know 1455 00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,480 Speaker 4: the person. Like see there, because I will speak. You know, 1456 00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:53,880 Speaker 4: when Amy Winehouse was going through her crazy time, I 1457 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,840 Speaker 4: was like everybody else laughing about it when they did 1458 00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,480 Speaker 4: jokes about it on like SNL or on like the 1459 00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:00,919 Speaker 4: late night TV shows and all the gossip and looking 1460 00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,600 Speaker 4: at the terrible photos and like, wow, she's going crazy. 1461 00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,120 Speaker 4: But I was a human woman. Yeah, she had all 1462 00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,800 Speaker 4: these toxic people around her who weren't not helping her 1463 00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,120 Speaker 4: get the help she needed, preventing her even from getting 1464 00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:11,880 Speaker 4: the help she needed. 1465 00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:13,080 Speaker 1: It. 1466 00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,440 Speaker 4: It's good, did you ever watch the Michael Jackson I 1467 00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,880 Speaker 4: watched The Michael Jackson Good. 1468 00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,400 Speaker 1: Were you just like, first of all, we obviously you're 1469 00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,920 Speaker 1: already like Michael Jackson's amazing, and then you're like if 1470 00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,320 Speaker 1: I could not think he was more amazing as an artist, 1471 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,440 Speaker 1: it just makes you realize, like, what what a genius 1472 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,000 Speaker 1: he was in this space. 1473 00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:31,919 Speaker 4: And how hard he worked from like the age of five. 1474 00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:35,360 Speaker 4: So that's the documentaries on Showtime, yes or HBO. 1475 00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:36,240 Speaker 3: I think it was Showtime. 1476 00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,680 Speaker 4: It's called Off the Wall and Spike Lee directed it, 1477 00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,240 Speaker 4: and it's so good, and it's the time period that 1478 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,560 Speaker 4: I didn't see. I always knew Thriller and beyond Michael, 1479 00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,240 Speaker 4: and uh so I never really knew Off the Wall 1480 00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:50,600 Speaker 4: Michael or the Jackson five Michael, and uh yeah, my 1481 00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,840 Speaker 4: dad came from to show my dad he loves Michael. Afterward, 1482 00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,800 Speaker 4: I saw someone compare The Weekend to Michael Jackson, and 1483 00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:00,800 Speaker 4: I was like, several Statesiel Jackson has more talent and 1484 01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:04,280 Speaker 4: his left pinky finger than the Weekend. The Weekend I 1485 01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:05,160 Speaker 4: was gonna say, yeah. 1486 01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,000 Speaker 1: I'm definitely gonna give the Weekend. But first of all, 1487 01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,080 Speaker 1: there's no dancing, there's no Michael. 1488 01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,400 Speaker 3: The sound of his voice, and that's literally it. 1489 01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Michael Jackson was so much more 1490 01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,120 Speaker 1: than just the voice it was. I mean, just watch 1491 01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,120 Speaker 1: after all, you just realize, like, first of all, he 1492 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,680 Speaker 1: was like a genius at five when you hear Sammy 1493 01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:25,680 Speaker 1: Davis Junior, all of these like famous musicians. 1494 01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,320 Speaker 2: Including the Weekend he was interviewed can Be Bryant for 1495 01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:27,880 Speaker 2: some reason was. 1496 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,160 Speaker 3: Interviewed and a lot which I was like, why are 1497 01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:31,720 Speaker 3: you here? Are you lost her? 1498 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,640 Speaker 2: So I heard it was a camera about but it. 1499 01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,280 Speaker 1: Was just so good because you get to see that 1500 01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,720 Speaker 1: like his genius didn't just erupt when he was like nineteen, 1501 01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,560 Speaker 1: that it was something that was spotted when he was 1502 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,960 Speaker 1: really young, and how it manifested itself, and how he 1503 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:50,600 Speaker 1: listened and how he asked questions and he was always curious. 1504 01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:51,600 Speaker 3: It's just such a good. 1505 01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,360 Speaker 4: That's all related, and that's why I think that's why 1506 01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,240 Speaker 4: I like Shawna's book so much, and that's why I 1507 01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,000 Speaker 4: like the Michael Jackson documentary so much, because I think 1508 01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,120 Speaker 4: it's really easy to look at successful people and say 1509 01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,880 Speaker 4: I could never be that, or kill yourself thinking that 1510 01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:05,520 Speaker 4: you should be that, and you don't really. 1511 01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:06,720 Speaker 2: See what work they put into it. 1512 01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,080 Speaker 4: Like it's no wonder that I'm not like Oprah or 1513 01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,400 Speaker 4: like Michael, Like, there's so much work and you don't 1514 01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:13,919 Speaker 4: see the work. 1515 01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:15,280 Speaker 2: So the off the wall shows the work. 1516 01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,880 Speaker 4: Shonda Rhyme shows you the work that she has done 1517 01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:19,480 Speaker 4: to get to where she is. 1518 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:21,200 Speaker 2: And uh so those are like. 1519 01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:22,720 Speaker 1: Wonder if I'm gonna become a Oprah, I'm gonna call 1520 01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,600 Speaker 1: a book the work the work. But that's only becoming 1521 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,920 Speaker 1: Oprah status and I'm like, until that, I'll just call it. 1522 01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:29,400 Speaker 2: Like, see, there's only governa be one Oprah. 1523 01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:31,960 Speaker 4: You just gotta be like Tiffany status. That's true, one 1524 01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,560 Speaker 4: name Tiffany. There's no like I mean, there isn't like 1525 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:36,240 Speaker 4: a famous Tiffany right now. 1526 01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,080 Speaker 3: You could be the Tiffany. Yes, I do want to 1527 01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:41,720 Speaker 3: be the Tiffany. Tiffany. Well, that was we had a 1528 01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,120 Speaker 3: long one. We did because we haven't seen so well. 1529 01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:45,200 Speaker 3: We talked for like an hour before. 1530 01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:51,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, guys, well as always email us, send us your 1531 01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:55,480 Speaker 4: messages on Facebook, on Twitter, at the BA podcast, and 1532 01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:59,960 Speaker 4: on email outs at Brand Ambition podcast at femail dot com. 1533 01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:01,880 Speaker 2: I also a quick apology. 1534 01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,040 Speaker 4: I realized that some of you guys had issues with 1535 01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:06,840 Speaker 4: last week's episode on iTunes. 1536 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,520 Speaker 2: That is iTunes issue, and they're working it out. I'm 1537 01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:10,000 Speaker 2: very sorry. 1538 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,080 Speaker 4: I hope it will be fixed and but if you're 1539 01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,600 Speaker 4: still having problems, email us at broad Ambition podcast at 1540 01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:15,480 Speaker 4: email dot com. 1541 01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and have a great week, yeah,