WEBVTT - EP 455: The Truth About Egg Freezing  (feat. Zuri Hall) 


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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Decisions Decisions. I don't think you should say

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<v Speaker 1>decisions decisions. It sounded like you was talking to Kirsty.

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<v Speaker 1>You definitely say to welcome, welcome to the new podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wait, you want to say together the decisions Decisions.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey guys, welcome to another episode of the Sisy Hall

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<v Speaker 3>To Sisy Hall, Listen, my vocals ain't really hit him.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'll never be a superstar singer, but I am

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<v Speaker 3>maybe be Aka paid the sign Aka debts Beach.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, y'all, I'm weazy. Welcome back to another episode of

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<v Speaker 2>our show. We have a guest today and her bio

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<v Speaker 2>is so long that I'm gonna have to pick my

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<v Speaker 2>favorite things to say. Missouri Hall. She's an any award

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<v Speaker 2>winning TV personality who would be known from what I

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<v Speaker 2>know eve Redcarpet, NBC's Access Hollywood, bringing the energy and empathy.

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<v Speaker 1>She's to who email this growned us?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay warrior, Oh you're from Ohio anyway. She's also a

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<v Speaker 2>global ambassador for the Global Fund of Children. Oh, we

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<v Speaker 2>only talk about the ones that we and yeah, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>don't say it's kids all day over.

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<v Speaker 4>The nois the kids that assault.

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<v Speaker 2>We love the kids, but Zouri Hall is a season host.

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<v Speaker 2>She's known from covering anything from Vanity Fair to Vogue,

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<v Speaker 2>is a style star.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want you guys give it that for Hi, Hi, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, thank you for that.

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<v Speaker 5>But I also apologize that you were subjected to have

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<v Speaker 5>to edit that real time.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell up, no, I will tell you this.

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<v Speaker 2>Like we've been talking about having uri, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>we all alongstage each other something, come on, come on.

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<v Speaker 2>But the reason this one episode happen is the egg

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<v Speaker 2>freezing journeys.

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<v Speaker 1>You're the second person on my timeline.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been seeing Cammy Crawford talk about everything from her

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<v Speaker 2>experience to money, and it was just like, Okay, let's

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<v Speaker 2>let's do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know that women listening you may want to

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<v Speaker 2>have kids, may not want to kids, may not.

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<v Speaker 1>Even give a shait or say fuck them kids too.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think just even knowing about it, because all

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<v Speaker 2>of our friends that are at this age maybe have

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<v Speaker 2>tossed the idea. And I don't really know how to

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<v Speaker 2>get in conversation about egg freezing as much.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had three friends do it.

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<v Speaker 3>So two of them went through egg freezing for they

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<v Speaker 3>were diagnosed with breast cancer. So having to have their

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<v Speaker 3>eggs frozen before going through chemo, and then another friend

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<v Speaker 3>of mine currently has gone through I think two rounds total,

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<v Speaker 3>still hasn't gotten everything, but two rounds of IVF for

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<v Speaker 3>diminishing ovarian syndrome, which this is my first time hearing

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<v Speaker 3>about it, and I've talked about it because it's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>She's younger than me, so early thirties.

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<v Speaker 3>And literally trying to save it for later and realize

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<v Speaker 3>so diminishing ovarian syndrome. Basically, even when you have IVF,

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<v Speaker 3>they want to be able to get ten eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of you during this process.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, the IVF is to make you, you know, get

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<v Speaker 3>more eggs and make them. They have to be a

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<v Speaker 3>certain size for them to even retrieve them, for them

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<v Speaker 3>to be able to be considered healthy, for them to

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<v Speaker 3>be able.

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<v Speaker 1>To be frozen.

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<v Speaker 3>Mind you, they can insert this egg later and it

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<v Speaker 3>still doesn't mean it's going to be a full a

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<v Speaker 3>full egg. So basically her going through this, her egg

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<v Speaker 3>count is just drastically low. She has no reason why,

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<v Speaker 3>like and it's just something that's rare. They can't really

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<v Speaker 3>explain it. So in her early thirties, she's not producing

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<v Speaker 3>eggs like she should. So she's gone through two rounds

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<v Speaker 3>and only has three eggs. Three and mind you, with

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<v Speaker 3>insurance it doesn't really matter. It's cost her over seven

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<v Speaker 3>thousand dollars each time for this process help cover some

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<v Speaker 3>of it, some of it, but also the medication that

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<v Speaker 3>she's had to take, and because she has not as

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<v Speaker 3>many eggs, she has to keep doing it. But one

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<v Speaker 3>of the things I do want to share before we

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<v Speaker 3>get into this because it's one of the most amazing

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<v Speaker 3>things Facebook groups. So she was spending so much money

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<v Speaker 3>on the medication. There's women that during their IVF journeys

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<v Speaker 3>end up seriously getting pregnant, like from naturally. And so

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<v Speaker 3>what's dope is if you're in whatever city you are,

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<v Speaker 3>there's normally groups of women that are doing IVF and

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<v Speaker 3>they'll hey, guys, I got my magical baby. If y'all

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<v Speaker 3>if you need any medication, I haven't, And so there's

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<v Speaker 3>women that like share their medications. But yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 3>being being thirty five and having so many friends go

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<v Speaker 3>through fertility journeys in the way that they have, especially

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<v Speaker 3>through egg freezing, has been really interesting to like learn, Yeah, firsthand.

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<v Speaker 5>It's fascinating and it feels like everyone just pops up

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<v Speaker 5>all at once talking about yes, which is awesome but

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<v Speaker 5>also points to what kind of threw me for a

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<v Speaker 5>loop of why was nobody talking about this when we

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<v Speaker 5>were younger and could have been seriously considering their options.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. We're always told, you've guys so much.

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<v Speaker 5>Time, don't worry about it, don't think of like girl,

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<v Speaker 5>focus on your career, do your thing. That is true,

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<v Speaker 5>but there is also the biological truth of what our

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<v Speaker 5>bodies are going to do. And so when I was

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<v Speaker 5>in my twenties, you always think the guy is going

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<v Speaker 5>to be the guy, and it's like.

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<v Speaker 1>The next guy I mean to get girlfud look at him.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be like, that's our wedding and it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be where that's my king.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready. So that's not how that went.

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<v Speaker 5>And I remember in my late twenties, when I ended

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<v Speaker 5>the relationship that I was in, I was like, you

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<v Speaker 5>know what, I should probably freeze my eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>I always thought I would.

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<v Speaker 3>Be You had this thought in your late twenties, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>oh okay, but.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not do it, and I don't believe it. Regrets.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, if I could do that one more time, I

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<v Speaker 5>would because at the time I was at NBC Universal still,

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<v Speaker 5>so I've been at NBC for ten years, but business wise,

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<v Speaker 5>like I was an employee for those first four or

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<v Speaker 5>five years, the last half of my tenure there, I've

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<v Speaker 5>been alone out my own business right myself. But that

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<v Speaker 5>also means I'm covering my own insurance. And I'm employed

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<v Speaker 5>by Zuri Hall and back then because I was an employee,

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<v Speaker 5>they had incredible benefits. So late twenties, broke up with

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<v Speaker 5>the guy I was with, decided I want to freeze

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<v Speaker 5>my eggs. I was working down stop. I was so busy.

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<v Speaker 5>I tried calling. They were like, call your insurance do this.

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<v Speaker 5>Two days into that, I was like, I don't have

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<v Speaker 5>time for this. I would literally rather just figure it

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<v Speaker 5>out whoever my marriage. Yeah, even go through all of

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<v Speaker 5>this insurance stuff because it was so complicated, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>easy and I was busy, so I didn't do it,

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<v Speaker 5>even though they covered almost one hundred percent. No way,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know what I was doing. Well, I know

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<v Speaker 5>I wasn't thinking because I was overworked, exhausted and just

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<v Speaker 5>trying to get through the days. So I didn't end

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<v Speaker 5>up doing it, even though they covered almost the entire procedure.

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<v Speaker 1>And then around.

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<v Speaker 5>Early to mid thirties I started thinking about it again.

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<v Speaker 5>It was because there are things that I want in

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<v Speaker 5>my life. I want to be married, I want to

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<v Speaker 5>have children. I don't want anything in my life more

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<v Speaker 5>than having it and making sure it feel right.

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<v Speaker 2>And a lot of the questions like we're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 2>to you about today are not even just the process,

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<v Speaker 2>but like why because I think some of the things

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<v Speaker 2>that was interesting to me When Cammy froze her eggs,

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<v Speaker 2>I saw a lot of comments like but you got

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<v Speaker 2>me in yeah, you know, and so like that's the ignorance, right,

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<v Speaker 2>They don't get it.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't get it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's great to talk about, like even the

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<v Speaker 2>quantity of kids they want to have or just whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>We just are always swing everybody else's couscy. Now we're

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna get yours yet. So we have a few

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<v Speaker 2>lookings to play with you in our favorite game, really,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like, because it's a fun one to play

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<v Speaker 2>is poetry.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're gonna do a.

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<v Speaker 2>Song, singing it like it's poetry or reading it like

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<v Speaker 2>it's poetry, and you have to guess the song. You

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely know this song, do what you gotta do, keep

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<v Speaker 2>me up all night.

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<v Speaker 5>Hurt, what you canna do night period?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, go so good, dam bo good? That mixed up

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm a twelve good Okay, wait.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I want to give you one that don't push

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<v Speaker 1>me too. She said, all right, witch, I got it. Next.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the next game? Because I got one like this one?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember. No, Literally that was to me. Lyrics

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<v Speaker 1>are what you know? You know, it's crazy. I make

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<v Speaker 1>up lyrics so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Say I don't know what wait out like that you

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<v Speaker 2>could literally say to the window, to the wall, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm be like, when what dropped.

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<v Speaker 1>Down the ball dropping?

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<v Speaker 3>No no, no, like when I when I remember.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a I have a homeboy who loves R

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<v Speaker 1>and B.

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<v Speaker 3>And literally like we get to where we'll play, we'll

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<v Speaker 3>play like card games and ship it's R and B

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<v Speaker 3>and we're just saying at the top of our lungs

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<v Speaker 3>all together in unison. So he puts on I want

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<v Speaker 3>to say, it's one twelve Cupid. And so it gets

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<v Speaker 3>to a part and I say truth is and they're like,

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<v Speaker 3>did you just say through truth is? Apparently it's Cupid

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<v Speaker 3>would have got them song and I made up a

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<v Speaker 3>whole another line and my last podcast used to be

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<v Speaker 3>music Bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>I would literally be making up lyrics not all made

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<v Speaker 1>up truth. Kid is nuts, but it's cupid. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that young tongue song live live, live loud thing. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you, no one knows that lyric. Wait

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<v Speaker 1>do it more? Wait, A lot of ship just live

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<v Speaker 1>in lives. What is it? Came from the bottom to

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<v Speaker 1>the top. My life's out. I just hopping on lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it, you know what I mean. But we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know what Missy was staying with reversed. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>sisence that was really reversed ReBs.

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<v Speaker 3>It literally reversed bit And I was like you, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>this is another language because wait, it was at the

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<v Speaker 3>time when that came out. It was at the time

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<v Speaker 3>when like we we as hip hop. I will say,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm blaming y'all culturally appropriated like India.

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<v Speaker 1>So they were like to th thing they had what.

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<v Speaker 3>They didn't say it like god, bro, I'm thinking, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Those words didn't make it India. There was the beat.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, same thing. Maybe Asian toya gotta mean something.

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<v Speaker 4>It sound like it means something in Asian. Okay, now

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<v Speaker 4>I signed this other game.

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<v Speaker 1>I just made this ship up, so I'm not as

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go one, two, three? Oh okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I got this question and I never one. The second

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<v Speaker 2>one is two okay, and the next one is three.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to craft the perfect date night, but you

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<v Speaker 2>could only go to one place? Where would it be?

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<v Speaker 2>Think of the vibes in activity? Is there fooding around?

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<v Speaker 2>Hottailor's definitely food all of it?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? Where do you take someone for the perfect date?

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<v Speaker 1>Perfect dating?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Where does she want to be taken to? Or where

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<v Speaker 1>does she takes something?

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't have to be a hard thing, Okay, maybe plentying

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<v Speaker 2>a great day one place, one place that.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the one place? And I'll see you later at

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<v Speaker 1>five o'clock?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>This is such a fun after there? Okay? One place

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<v Speaker 1>that is a really fun question.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean it's kind of like cliche.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, what I think?

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<v Speaker 5>The reason it works a spot like Dave and Busters, right,

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<v Speaker 5>or something where you can have.

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<v Speaker 1>In our cage, Yes, an arcade because they have food.

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<v Speaker 5>They got drinks there so you can have a little appetizer,

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<v Speaker 5>little life by maybe one drink.

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<v Speaker 1>I read something recently and then whoop. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. You get to talk, youre is, you get

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<v Speaker 1>to go back and forth. Stakes are high.

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<v Speaker 5>You can see what their competition game is like all

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<v Speaker 5>they get when they are overly comoyfriend just.

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<v Speaker 2>Made a comment about okay, sorry, now I'm taking it.

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<v Speaker 2>We went on a throttle day. This girl we see

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<v Speaker 2>and we took her to vote. He was okay, but

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<v Speaker 2>we'd already had sex. It was in our next date.

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<v Speaker 2>But he was like, I don't really like activity dates

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<v Speaker 2>because I feel like I'm not in the flirty vibe

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<v Speaker 2>because we're too competitive and we're like now he's like

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<v Speaker 2>with bowling, like it's her turn, then you go play.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's me and her talking. Know how you that is?

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta slept the ass.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you gotta, you gotta make it warning, you gotta

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<v Speaker 3>start making best make its up. I get to lick

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<v Speaker 3>them nipples to not like I do that. I do

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<v Speaker 3>I do that for oh no, like if you make

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<v Speaker 3>it if you don't want to make it like super friendly,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't you want to make it sexual like you

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<v Speaker 3>just make every you.

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<v Speaker 1>Turn everything into it because you're separate.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do like activity if it's like playing games together.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure, and that makes it a little trigger.

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<v Speaker 5>I've never navigated to throttle dynamics, so I would imagine

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<v Speaker 5>when it's one and two and then once sitting back,

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<v Speaker 5>that's a little tricky or vice versa. But I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>to your point, it can be whatever you make it.

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<v Speaker 5>It can't do with sexual You can just be chill friendly.

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<v Speaker 2>And I feel like I don't have to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>And and if anyone has ever gone, I went on

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<v Speaker 3>a date before I left New York to there's like

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<v Speaker 3>an arcade in Chinatown, but it's like all these old

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<v Speaker 3>school games, and just from a nostalgic being in your

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<v Speaker 3>thirties and playing pat Man and ship like that, I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, oh, this is really cute, like and so

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<v Speaker 3>it was fun.

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<v Speaker 1>And then after that you get to go get fucking

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<v Speaker 1>dumplings and boba tate exactly. You know, well that's adding

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<v Speaker 1>to Okay, now, now I'm gonna really sound like a

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<v Speaker 1>hu tar me out, Okay, no judgment listening. We listen

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<v Speaker 1>and we judged. We listening and we judged the perfect date.

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<v Speaker 2>So to me, the perfect date means you spend like

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<v Speaker 2>all day together, okay, and I can only go one place.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's say we're in l A. I'm gonna pick.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's say the addition, Okay, we're gonna go to the

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<v Speaker 2>pool during the day. Then we're gonna go to the

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<v Speaker 2>spa that you're cheating, and then we're gonna have to.

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<v Speaker 1>You see how she changed. Question. Now, here's number two.

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<v Speaker 1>Me while I'm at David.

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<v Speaker 2>Buster's for two hours speaking to two not like what

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<v Speaker 2>I need to be in this.

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<v Speaker 1>Mine's three.

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<v Speaker 2>You're me your dream man physically fine as books, but

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<v Speaker 2>he can only excel in two out of the five

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<v Speaker 2>love languages.

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<v Speaker 1>So what are they going to be?

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<v Speaker 2>For a reminder for everyone here, words of affirmation, quality time, gifts,

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<v Speaker 2>acts of service, and physical touch.

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<v Speaker 1>Fine, he only gonna be good at two of them.

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<v Speaker 5>That is a great question. My love languages were one

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<v Speaker 5>thing for so many years. I got curious about myself

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<v Speaker 5>and how I changed since the last time I took

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<v Speaker 5>the test, which would have been seven or eight years ago,

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<v Speaker 5>and was surprised to.

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<v Speaker 1>Realize, no, they changed.

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<v Speaker 5>She changed, which is such a reflection of where I

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<v Speaker 5>am in my life now makes.

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<v Speaker 1>Matters in so these days?

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<v Speaker 5>My number one is quality time, So he's got to

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<v Speaker 5>be good at that.

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<v Speaker 1>That matters to me. I work a lot. I would

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<v Speaker 1>imagine he very busy too.

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<v Speaker 5>In a perfect world, he's doing something and that he

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<v Speaker 5>loves and is passionate about, and so our time together

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<v Speaker 5>becomes all the more sacred.

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<v Speaker 1>So quality times work, So that now what else is

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<v Speaker 1>finance too?

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<v Speaker 2>You know when I say it's fine, those.

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<v Speaker 1>Are my facto service. I was gonna say, act.

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<v Speaker 3>Of service and quality time are like why are they

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<v Speaker 3>for you? So it used to be gifts and physical touch?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you saying like if if a if a man

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<v Speaker 3>got me gifts and fucked me good, just another man?

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<v Speaker 3>But now someone who can come in and just make

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<v Speaker 3>my life simpler, Like I want someone who adds and

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<v Speaker 3>makes Like this is gonna sound so cliche, we saying

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<v Speaker 3>cliche shit up here today, but like saying, you want

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<v Speaker 3>someone to be your peace. So for me, if you

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<v Speaker 3>can come in and make my life easier, like and

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<v Speaker 3>it's so funny because one of the things that I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I get made fun of on here if a man

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<v Speaker 3>come to my house.

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<v Speaker 1>But like my boyfriend just.

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<v Speaker 3>Recently did in the house, make one of my boyfriends,

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<v Speaker 3>but he came over, spent some time in Atlanta and

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<v Speaker 3>before leaving for his flight. Not only did he make

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<v Speaker 3>my bed, he took the trash out. He don't even

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<v Speaker 3>live to ask, didn't have to ask. He started picking

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<v Speaker 3>up the bags, the empty bottles because we had a

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<v Speaker 3>good time, and he's like, where's your where's your dumpster?

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<v Speaker 3>I want to make sure I take your trash out

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<v Speaker 3>before I leave, And I'm just like he listened to

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<v Speaker 3>the No, he's never will wed.

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<v Speaker 1>He ain't nothing. No, he's had this trash cank for

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<v Speaker 1>five years. Well, it's not even that.

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<v Speaker 3>I was in my first relationship at twenty nine going

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<v Speaker 3>to the thirty right, that relationship, how you said seven

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<v Speaker 3>years ago it was one way, seven years later, it's another.

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<v Speaker 3>It's because I went through this relationship and I was

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<v Speaker 3>able to be like, this is what I like, and

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<v Speaker 3>it had nothing to do with any gifts he bought me. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>sex was great, but it started to be it was

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<v Speaker 3>an intimate thing that I started appreciating with my partners

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<v Speaker 3>and then it changed to that. But those are my

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<v Speaker 3>top two right there as well. And I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>men know how to show up that way fully. So

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<v Speaker 3>when you get it, like a lot of men will

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<v Speaker 3>lead with their wallets. So that's the gift giving right.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you have, of course physical touch. You have a

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<v Speaker 3>man that'll you know, do all those things. And then

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<v Speaker 3>words of affirmations has always been the last one. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't need you to I don't have a praise kid,

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<v Speaker 3>and I know that that's something. But yeah, the older

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<v Speaker 3>you get those other two. Oh baby, yeah, take trash.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be like this. Listen. Are you ready for

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<v Speaker 1>the three? Yes? Three? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>This one is simple. Now I call it a whole bag.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure a nice lady like call it the overnight bag.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, the overnight bag. You can only put three things

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<v Speaker 1>in the bag. Oh what are those three? Oh my god? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>overnight bag.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, let's just say you know, you know you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be over there that night, but also he might take

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<v Speaker 2>you somewhere the next day. No, no, no, hey, that

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<v Speaker 2>is a let's just say it's not the fit.

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<v Speaker 1>But what's in the what's in the bat and what

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<v Speaker 1>do I need?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to assume that there is listening, toothpaste and

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<v Speaker 5>an extra toothbrush.

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<v Speaker 3>And especially if he's a hope, I would say I

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<v Speaker 3>think the extra tooth the extra toothbrushes for like, okay, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess I forget I did. I did too, but I

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<v Speaker 2>mean hot take about the toothbrush thing. So one of

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<v Speaker 2>my friends starts blacking about this dude having a bit

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of toothbrushes.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, this just seems so normal to me. I

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<v Speaker 1>know you're upset. She's like, I'm in Missouri. Nobody's visiting

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<v Speaker 1>his name.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, maybe if you live in New York, LA,

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<v Speaker 2>people come through for the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Ain't nobody's visiting anyone else.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm saying that I do believe that people

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<v Speaker 3>visit too.

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<v Speaker 1>Me too. So then I was like, maybe here, any

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<v Speaker 1>big family guy, maybe people do. I love it. I

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<v Speaker 1>love mis Zouri was like, let me let y'all know

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<v Speaker 1>my breath. Do not think. But I'm gonna assume he

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<v Speaker 1>got out of that.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm not pecking it record for the record dental

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<v Speaker 5>high ortante period. But I'm just you said he got it, Okay, yes, yes, yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>So I am bringing Can I bring it off? Change

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<v Speaker 5>of clothes? You're saying I don't need to bring you

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<v Speaker 5>change of clothes. I look, I am a very easy,

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<v Speaker 5>momentous person. Honestly, I don't need much a period payies.

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<v Speaker 2>Like if you want your you're bringing sexy lingerie that's

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<v Speaker 2>in the bag.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I don't even think about that. Just change

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<v Speaker 1>she said, change draw tomorrow. Yes, so sexy lingdre wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be in the whole bay. Okay, not every man gets lingerie.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lot. I feel like you got it.

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<v Speaker 3>We got a plan that I'm not just bringing a

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<v Speaker 3>lingerie over a man house.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and it's just like my bag and it's probably not.

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<v Speaker 1>Even okay, I'm not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's the first time, these gonna be the nicest

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<v Speaker 2>pulling up and that those.

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<v Speaker 3>Did if it's the first time, Like, I don't need

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<v Speaker 3>to because youre gonna pick them up because ain't gonna

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<v Speaker 3>change it.

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<v Speaker 5>That was okay, I'm bed dramatic to be like one second.

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<v Speaker 1>And then do it, because but I've been in that moment.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, this is dupid.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just I'm gonna see it's But what's your makeup

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<v Speaker 2>essential for the next day?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, makeup essential?

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<v Speaker 5>I would say mascara and that's it because I just

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<v Speaker 5>need to fluff my brows.

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<v Speaker 1>I get them together and then I'll do a swipe.

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<v Speaker 5>So the lashes pop, and then I tried to prioritize skincare,

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<v Speaker 5>so I don't need to do it if I don't

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<v Speaker 5>have to do like a full face. So and I'm

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<v Speaker 5>pretty much bear face when I'm not what are your.

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<v Speaker 1>Three items on it?

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<v Speaker 2>Lingerie and my lip duo? I don't need to make

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<v Speaker 2>up either, just to lip pombo. But the thing with

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<v Speaker 2>the bonnet, like, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait a second bonnet on? Is this a first night?

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<v Speaker 1>Bring the bag either way? Okay? Oh I want the

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<v Speaker 1>bonnet on. I don't give a fuck.

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<v Speaker 2>And also I love that and I have like my

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<v Speaker 2>boyfriend we've been together for two years now, but he

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<v Speaker 2>got locked and so did the men before him.

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<v Speaker 1>We all grab bonus on everybody. Girl.

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<v Speaker 2>You should see when my mama called late night we

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<v Speaker 2>beat a bed together, she'd be like, what's right?

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<v Speaker 1>Man? Bone it too fine? On it? That's not singing?

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<v Speaker 1>We go to bed.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it, though I also felt like when I

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<v Speaker 2>was younger, and I don't know if you guys can

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<v Speaker 2>attest to this, or maybe it's only me, I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to do a lot more before going a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to wake up a lot more different. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, I got it, uh, now, not so much.

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<v Speaker 2>But the linguery is actually more for me than that, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because I like, I kind of feel like I'm lacking

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<v Speaker 2>on me sometimes, like I don't realize how much I

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<v Speaker 2>am low efforts sometimes be like I'm gonts sgard you

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<v Speaker 2>Zuri we do a sex spot, I'm not a Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I assume you're gonna get there and you should just

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<v Speaker 2>be happy. That's not true.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I had really good sex recently.

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<v Speaker 2>I was wearing a button up and I left it

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<v Speaker 2>on and he was like, you don't understand what that

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<v Speaker 2>didn't me Like, I don't know. We so like used

0:21:46.280 --> 0:21:48.400
<v Speaker 2>to nakedness, He's like, but I was just like, oh,

0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:50.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm sneaking. He's like, I had to ship in my

0:21:50.280 --> 0:21:53.399
<v Speaker 2>head like it was my teacher was so to me,

0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:54.840
<v Speaker 2>It's like we're not dressing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So now it's made me want to step it up. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I do we move on to eggs, so I do

0:22:04.080 --> 0:22:04.720
<v Speaker 1>want to ask you.

0:22:05.760 --> 0:22:09.119
<v Speaker 2>The clip actually didn't pull up, but one of the

0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:11.119
<v Speaker 2>clips that I had pulled up. We have a reactionary segment.

0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:13.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm so sorry this is so unprofessional watching, but one

0:22:13.720 --> 0:22:15.920
<v Speaker 2>of the clips was a hot take and the girl

0:22:16.000 --> 0:22:20.040
<v Speaker 2>basically said, my hot take is I'm sick of people

0:22:20.160 --> 0:22:22.480
<v Speaker 2>saying that they need a boundary to show up for themselves,

0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:25.720
<v Speaker 2>like we sometimes choosing ourselves as a fault. Don't tell

0:22:25.760 --> 0:22:27.280
<v Speaker 2>me if I had friends with my friends, but I

0:22:27.400 --> 0:22:29.480
<v Speaker 2>chose myself that it's my boundary no show.

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<v Speaker 1>Up for people, And that sounds like a breeding ground

0:22:33.160 --> 0:22:35.560
<v Speaker 1>for me. Yeah, I wish I could, Yeah, but it

0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:35.800
<v Speaker 1>was no.

0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:37.640
<v Speaker 2>It was eight second clip. But one of the things

0:22:37.640 --> 0:22:39.880
<v Speaker 2>that it made me think about was the egg freezing thing.

0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:42.520
<v Speaker 2>Are we choosing ourselves to a fault? And I asked

0:22:42.520 --> 0:22:46.760
<v Speaker 2>this because before my partner, the last guy I dated,

0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:49.239
<v Speaker 2>it was short lived, he was on the road, he

0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:51.879
<v Speaker 2>was an actor, and I didn't really live in LA

0:22:51.920 --> 0:22:54.080
<v Speaker 2>so we're back and forth. But when I discussed egg

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<v Speaker 2>freezing with him, he said, are you so jaded or

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<v Speaker 2>like down or just pointed by love that your mind

0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:04.639
<v Speaker 2>is solely focused on having kids alone?

0:23:05.400 --> 0:23:07.520
<v Speaker 1>So well, why does it have to be so binary?

0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Why is it so black and white?

0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:11.399
<v Speaker 5>Why if I'm interested in this, am I afraid of

0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:12.080
<v Speaker 5>dying alone?

0:23:12.119 --> 0:23:14.800
<v Speaker 1>And that's my only option? Completely agree and protecting all

0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:15.840
<v Speaker 1>of my options.

0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:17.880
<v Speaker 2>So the thing he said that I mean you think

0:23:17.880 --> 0:23:20.680
<v Speaker 2>about that clip was I feel like I can't say

0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:22.040
<v Speaker 2>this to you because you're just gonna be like you

0:23:22.040 --> 0:23:23.040
<v Speaker 2>want to choose yourself?

0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:27.200
<v Speaker 1>And he said, so.

0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:29.840
<v Speaker 2>Many times I'm dating women where they're like trying to

0:23:29.840 --> 0:23:31.919
<v Speaker 2>tell me all these things like me, me, me, me,

0:23:32.359 --> 0:23:35.080
<v Speaker 2>and they say nothing that welcomes me into their life.

0:23:36.240 --> 0:23:39.359
<v Speaker 2>And I actually thought egg freezing. At that age, I

0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:41.919
<v Speaker 2>wasn't thirty four, which I am now, But to me,

0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:44.040
<v Speaker 2>if it was today, it's a plus for you.

0:23:44.240 --> 0:23:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely.

0:23:44.880 --> 0:23:48.040
<v Speaker 2>What if you're meeting me at forty and forty is

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<v Speaker 2>the scary age, I feel like for women with childbirth,

0:23:51.760 --> 0:23:55.280
<v Speaker 2>So wouldn't you be happy? So I really want to

0:23:55.320 --> 0:23:58.600
<v Speaker 2>pose that question to you of like, do you think

0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:02.399
<v Speaker 2>that your process maybe been something that men you were

0:24:02.440 --> 0:24:04.160
<v Speaker 2>dating or men that was in your life questions?

0:24:05.200 --> 0:24:06.200
<v Speaker 1>That's a great question.

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<v Speaker 5>No, actually, thankfully I've not experienced that at the.

0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Time I was. So I've done four rounds. I've done

0:24:13.560 --> 0:24:14.040
<v Speaker 1>four rounds.

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<v Speaker 5>So it was since over the course of about a

0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:19.879
<v Speaker 5>year i'd given myself I promised myself that I was

0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:22.920
<v Speaker 5>going to get this done by the age of thirty six.

0:24:23.000 --> 0:24:27.440
<v Speaker 5>I'm thirty seven now, so it was time and I

0:24:27.520 --> 0:24:29.879
<v Speaker 5>am an over a cheaper in pretty much everything. So

0:24:29.960 --> 0:24:31.960
<v Speaker 5>even with my egg freezing, I'm like, I'm gonna phrase

0:24:32.000 --> 0:24:34.920
<v Speaker 5>as many acts, right, And so for me to hit

0:24:34.920 --> 0:24:35.520
<v Speaker 5>the number that.

0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:38.800
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to hit I needed, I ended.

0:24:38.680 --> 0:24:41.800
<v Speaker 5>Up needing three to four rounds. Four rounds right, expensive

0:24:41.920 --> 0:24:45.160
<v Speaker 5>again expensive because those first three rounds, Yeah, we're all

0:24:45.200 --> 0:24:46.000
<v Speaker 5>out of pocket.

0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Again, no insurance covered that.

0:24:48.320 --> 0:24:50.720
<v Speaker 3>And it is not cheap, not only that, for you

0:24:50.800 --> 0:24:54.879
<v Speaker 3>to do that as a working woman. And when I

0:24:54.920 --> 0:24:58.720
<v Speaker 3>say working, it's a woman Like my friend took a

0:24:58.760 --> 0:25:02.280
<v Speaker 3>break from it because of how a exhausting like it

0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:04.919
<v Speaker 3>was to do it, but also you have to do

0:25:04.960 --> 0:25:07.240
<v Speaker 3>your checkups, so she had to take off certain days

0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:10.560
<v Speaker 3>of work and so during the process she's like, I

0:25:10.640 --> 0:25:12.959
<v Speaker 3>missed out on so many days of work because you

0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:15.719
<v Speaker 3>have your appointment and you got to make it. So

0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:18.520
<v Speaker 3>for you to do that for a full year is

0:25:18.600 --> 0:25:21.160
<v Speaker 3>a lot of sacrifice professionally as well.

0:25:21.200 --> 0:25:22.600
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think people talk about that often.

0:25:22.920 --> 0:25:23.119
<v Speaker 3>It was.

0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:23.560
<v Speaker 1>It was a lot.

0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Let's get talanmular about it. Then, Like, what exactly is

0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:29.520
<v Speaker 2>the step one boom? I want to freeze my eggs?

0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:31.560
<v Speaker 2>All I know about that is they hand you some

0:25:31.760 --> 0:25:33.960
<v Speaker 2>shots to start shooting up your hormone, like.

0:25:33.960 --> 0:25:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so what is it?

0:25:34.960 --> 0:25:36.200
<v Speaker 5>And I do want to say that, but just to

0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:38.600
<v Speaker 5>answer that question really about the men in one.

0:25:38.600 --> 0:25:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Life, I will say it.

0:25:40.840 --> 0:25:43.520
<v Speaker 5>To me helps me understand more quickly where a man

0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:45.360
<v Speaker 5>was in his life and what you guys did right,

0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:48.760
<v Speaker 5>because if a man was looking forward to fatherhood, it

0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:51.200
<v Speaker 5>comforted him where sometimes I think men, deep down, whether

0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:53.120
<v Speaker 5>they'll admit it or not, if they meet a woman

0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:54.760
<v Speaker 5>of a certain age and they know they want to

0:25:54.800 --> 0:25:56.880
<v Speaker 5>be a dad one day, it's like, oh, you're incredible,

0:25:56.880 --> 0:25:58.359
<v Speaker 5>you're brilliant, you're beautiful or whatever.

0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:03.520
<v Speaker 1>You're also what ever might be a heart.

0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:06.159
<v Speaker 5>So either I don't want to feel pressured with you

0:26:06.200 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 5>to have this baby asap, even though I have one eventually,

0:26:09.200 --> 0:26:12.080
<v Speaker 5>or I as a man and maybe deep down wondering,

0:26:12.160 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 5>can you even have my babies once the time is right?

0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:16.800
<v Speaker 1>And that's a question that I think a lot of men.

0:26:17.359 --> 0:26:21.119
<v Speaker 3>Luckily now with the conversation, a lot men are either

0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:25.400
<v Speaker 3>too shy to ask the question around fertility, especially an

0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:28.879
<v Speaker 3>older woman who has no kids, it's like can you

0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:29.720
<v Speaker 3>even have them?

0:26:30.080 --> 0:26:31.480
<v Speaker 1>And that becomes a conversation.

0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:35.240
<v Speaker 3>Unfortunately too, it's one that is touching online because it's like,

0:26:35.960 --> 0:26:38.800
<v Speaker 3>there's not a really respectful way to ask that.

0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:39.240
<v Speaker 1>It's hard.

0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:41.960
<v Speaker 3>It's hard, it just is it's a complicated question to

0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:44.040
<v Speaker 3>ask one and you it's one of those like where

0:26:44.080 --> 0:26:45.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, how they say you shouldn't ask a woman

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 3>her age, It's that's there too.

0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:51.600
<v Speaker 1>You shouldn't ask a woman where's your kid or.

0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:53.800
<v Speaker 3>Why she doesn't have kids. It's one of those questions

0:26:53.800 --> 0:26:56.159
<v Speaker 3>where you're just not supposed to ask. Yeah, but you

0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:56.920
<v Speaker 3>shouldn't ask if.

0:26:56.880 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 1>They have No. You shouldn't ask why don't you have kids? Yes?

0:26:59.560 --> 0:26:59.639
<v Speaker 5>Oh?

0:26:59.720 --> 0:27:00.680
<v Speaker 1>Why?

0:27:01.520 --> 0:27:03.760
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's one of those writ it's a personal

0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:06.960
<v Speaker 3>thing that or taught don't even yeah, yeah.

0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:08.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And that is also frustrating.

0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:11.199
<v Speaker 5>I empathize with and have compassion for the men and

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:13.480
<v Speaker 5>the women in this equation, right because if I'm a man,

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:16.399
<v Speaker 5>I want to know what I'm signing up for. It

0:27:16.400 --> 0:27:18.840
<v Speaker 5>doesn't mean I won't still sign up for it. But

0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:23.440
<v Speaker 5>then there is some some hesitation around being inappropriate, crossing

0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 5>a line, triggering a woman potentially what you don't want

0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:28.119
<v Speaker 5>to do. But these are conversations that I think we

0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:30.679
<v Speaker 5>men and women need to get more comfortable having with

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:34.600
<v Speaker 5>each other. I will say this last round, these last

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:37.000
<v Speaker 5>rounds that I was doing, I was traveling a lot.

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:39.120
<v Speaker 5>I was doing injections. I remember, I was doing them

0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:40.720
<v Speaker 5>for and after award shows.

0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:42.440
<v Speaker 1>How long are you doing it? For the red carpet

0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:42.840
<v Speaker 1>I was.

0:27:42.960 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 5>I had to inject from my car because the red

0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:47.360
<v Speaker 5>carpet wrapped out a certain.

0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:50.840
<v Speaker 3>Has every time, the same same day, yeah, same time,

0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:51.600
<v Speaker 3>every day.

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:54.880
<v Speaker 5>Wherever I was at nine to fifteen pm didn't matter,

0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 5>did not matter. So those needles were everywhere with me.

0:27:57.359 --> 0:27:59.600
<v Speaker 5>I learned to travel like a pro tsa pre check.

0:27:59.720 --> 0:28:01.639
<v Speaker 5>They hated to see me coming because it was a

0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:04.159
<v Speaker 5>bag full of needles, syringes, formulas.

0:28:04.320 --> 0:28:07.320
<v Speaker 1>I was hosting a gala in London. Oh, so suddenly

0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:09.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm having to do the math, the math for the

0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 1>time difference at like one am or whatever it was,

0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:15.560
<v Speaker 1>to do the shots that I was dating at the time,

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:15.880
<v Speaker 1>you know.

0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:18.679
<v Speaker 3>And it impacts here, It impacts are you when you

0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:20.000
<v Speaker 3>can have sex to write or no?

0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:23.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, wait, love is this version? It does.

0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:27.440
<v Speaker 5>Not really not really okay, you can do what you're

0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:30.720
<v Speaker 5>gonna do. The only time that that sort of becomes

0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:33.800
<v Speaker 5>a part of consideration is around the time that you're

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:38.080
<v Speaker 5>about to retrieve, retreating daily, especially immediately post retreatal.

0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 1>You don't want any post retrieval. You can't, you don't

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:44.200
<v Speaker 1>want anyone in there. Yes, yes, you're just so uncomfortable. Yes,

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:47.560
<v Speaker 1>so daily and how long does do you take shots?

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:51.240
<v Speaker 5>So cycles normally, like retrieval cycles, essentially normally go between

0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 5>ten to fourteen days of daily or nightly injections.

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:56.560
<v Speaker 1>You work with your doctor to determine what time that's

0:28:56.600 --> 0:29:00.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna be. They obsessively monitor your hormone levels. So for

0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:02.720
<v Speaker 1>this last round that I did actually with Ova egg

0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:05.400
<v Speaker 1>Freezing at Chicago, they're incredible. I highly recommend them.

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:09.920
<v Speaker 5>I was going into the office probably every other day, wow,

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 5>to do my blood work, to check my hormone levels,

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:15.520
<v Speaker 5>to do the ultrasound and see.

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:18.520
<v Speaker 1>How big and juicy those follicles that the windows are

0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:19.040
<v Speaker 1>so small.

0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 3>If anything's off, they'll have to like change your door, like, oh,

0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:23.960
<v Speaker 3>they'll have to switch medication.

0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Help every day that we're going up on this hormone.

0:29:28.120 --> 0:29:30.920
<v Speaker 1>We need reined in on this. It is truly a science.

0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:34.520
<v Speaker 5>And so I say ten to fourteen because you could

0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:36.240
<v Speaker 5>think it's going to take you ten days, it could

0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:37.320
<v Speaker 5>take you fourteen your body.

0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Needs more hormones, or ooh, these eggs get real big.

0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 1>We need to take about now, because it's ye.

0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 5>Like, if they mature and then get beyond that, they

0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:47.880
<v Speaker 5>still get tossed. Right, if they don't mature enough, they

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 5>get tossed. I used to think when I first came

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:52.800
<v Speaker 5>into this, Oh, however, many eggs y'all see on the ultrasound,

0:29:53.000 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 5>Let's go, that's somebody coming out.

0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 1>But that's not the case.

0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 5>So even when they retrieve them, let's say hypothetically you

0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:02.240
<v Speaker 5>get six ten eggs drawn, right, I'm not talking about

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:04.960
<v Speaker 5>my number specifically, but just for example, sixteen eggs drawn,

0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 5>you still have to wait another day or so to

0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 5>find out how many of those survived retrieval and were

0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:14.040
<v Speaker 5>actually mature enough to be frozen. So sixteen you drew,

0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:18.120
<v Speaker 5>could easily become nine or ten frozen eggs.

0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 3>And I think the other part that has been the

0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 3>most interesting that I just found out as well, is

0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:26.280
<v Speaker 3>not only is this process costly, right, you have to

0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 3>pay for storage yep, nine hundred dollars for storage of

0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:32.880
<v Speaker 3>the eggs until you decide to use them, until you

0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 3>find a partner. And like my friend had one of

0:30:35.760 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 3>my friends had her eggs retrieved. Oh my god, maybe

0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:40.680
<v Speaker 3>like four years ago now, and so to hear about

0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:42.080
<v Speaker 3>like like how she got to.

0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Pay credit card car.

0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 3>No, there's a storage feet for her to be for

0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:48.440
<v Speaker 3>those eggs to be storage.

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:50.320
<v Speaker 1>So it stored in a cryo facility.

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:53.560
<v Speaker 2>Like people listening that think the storage is crazy, Yes,

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 2>you really do. And it's basically to me, it's part

0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 2>of the thing where we had a friend of ours,

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:04.720
<v Speaker 2>friend of the show and author, Liz Goldwyn. So she's

0:31:04.720 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 2>also a sexpert sex author and has her books on it,

0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:10.600
<v Speaker 2>and she said to me when I was about to freeze,

0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:14.280
<v Speaker 2>I feel like you have now been part of the

0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 2>spear mongering. I said this Tar at thirty, I feel

0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:20.320
<v Speaker 2>like you've been part of spear mongering. You just told

0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:22.080
<v Speaker 2>me your mom had you at forty. Why are you

0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:25.680
<v Speaker 2>so fucking scared? Stop freaking out. Don't put your body

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:28.720
<v Speaker 2>through this. Just try first. There's Chinese medicine, there's all

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:31.680
<v Speaker 2>these different ways. Everybody I know is having kids later, like,

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:35.400
<v Speaker 2>why are you obsessing about this egg freezing and basically

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 2>said to me, like, do you understand how much it'll

0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:40.120
<v Speaker 2>cost you later if you do it young? Like what

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:41.760
<v Speaker 2>if you end up getting pregnant. You're just sitting here

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:44.200
<v Speaker 2>holding on And part of that thing was storage. Yeah,

0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:46.840
<v Speaker 2>She's like, it'll be a constant reminder of just like

0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:49.560
<v Speaker 2>boom here it is here, don't forget blah blah blah.

0:31:49.600 --> 0:31:52.080
<v Speaker 2>And she's like, there's a lot high to even having

0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 2>those eggs in the world.

0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Speaker 1>Have you egg freezing? By the way?

0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:57.840
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I was I was gonna ask you that question.

0:31:57.880 --> 0:32:00.960
<v Speaker 3>Have you had a woman question your decision for that?

0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:03.160
<v Speaker 3>And how does that make you? Like?

0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Like what?

0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:06.800
<v Speaker 3>Those conversations kind of made me back, I thought.

0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:09.120
<v Speaker 1>Liz is on our book Yeah Love Liz.

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:11.920
<v Speaker 2>Liz was talking to a thirty year old girl who

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 2>was freaking out and very scared about never finding love.

0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:16.880
<v Speaker 2>So I want to thank Liz for that conversation because

0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:19.520
<v Speaker 2>I do think that we can't encourage.

0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:19.840
<v Speaker 1>People both ways.

0:32:19.840 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 2>There are people that are obsessive and overly scared and

0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:25.120
<v Speaker 2>freaking out. And I think that really was what I

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:28.880
<v Speaker 2>needed at the time. Yeah, because it is true. She's like,

0:32:29.360 --> 0:32:30.720
<v Speaker 2>there are a lot of times you'll go into a

0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:32.280
<v Speaker 2>doctor She's like, nothing's fucking wrong with you.

0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Brother, They're pushing you.

0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:35.320
<v Speaker 2>They want you to spend this money, like, don't let

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:37.760
<v Speaker 2>some male doctor push you the wrong way if you.

0:32:37.840 --> 0:32:40.440
<v Speaker 1>Agree with her about that. Yeah, And she's spot on.

0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 1>I think it's too distinct and yet sort of neighborly conversations. Right.

0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:51.200
<v Speaker 5>There is a conversation around the emotions that come with

0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:55.720
<v Speaker 5>our fertility or lack thereof, our future children or lack thereof,

0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:59.000
<v Speaker 5>and then there's also a conversation around just the process.

0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 5>And sometimes when those two things intersect, I think because women,

0:33:03.080 --> 0:33:06.000
<v Speaker 5>people I love and trust, people who are strangers who

0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:07.920
<v Speaker 5>are giving unsolicited opinions to me.

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:10.280
<v Speaker 1>Have said, do you really think you need to do that?

0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:11.160
<v Speaker 1>Are you still so young?

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:13.000
<v Speaker 5>Or girl, I got pregnant at forty two or whatever,

0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:15.480
<v Speaker 5>And I love to hear those stories of people getting

0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:18.680
<v Speaker 5>pregnant at forty forty plus. I'm not saying I can't

0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:21.200
<v Speaker 5>or wouldn't be one of those people. I'm not even

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:25.080
<v Speaker 5>entirely sure that I wouldn't try naturally first, right, But

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:31.480
<v Speaker 5>for me, it was truly a conscious decision to just

0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 5>give myself another option most people, Statistically speaking, most women

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:37.720
<v Speaker 5>who freeze their eggs do not end up.

0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Throwing them for the sake of andel were using them.

0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 5>They end up getting pregnant naturally or not going on

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:46.560
<v Speaker 5>a pregnancy journey themselves, And yet overwhelmingly they've acknowledged that

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:49.360
<v Speaker 5>they still did not regret the choice the choice because

0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 5>it felt like they bought themselves some peace of mind.

0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:53.640
<v Speaker 1>What ages did you do with that?

0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:57.480
<v Speaker 5>I did it between the ages of about thirty four

0:33:57.520 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 5>or thirty five. When I started, it was pretty much

0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:02.040
<v Speaker 5>pretty much my thirty fifth year of the life that

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:05.840
<v Speaker 5>I was like knocking it out. I was done by

0:34:05.880 --> 0:34:08.880
<v Speaker 5>thirty six, so I think sometime in that window.

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:10.799
<v Speaker 1>But again, I gave myself to thirty six, so I know.

0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:11.280
<v Speaker 1>It was funny.

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:15.359
<v Speaker 3>One of my friends who froze her eggs doesn't want

0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 3>children and is still paying for the storage just in

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:21.440
<v Speaker 3>case it changes. She thought she wanted children when she

0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:25.200
<v Speaker 3>got them frozen. Really could well. First off, I ain't

0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 3>even got a man. She like, you like, She's like, girl,

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:29.319
<v Speaker 3>I gotta find somebody. I like first She's might take

0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:32.440
<v Speaker 3>twenty years, you know, you know, okay, but literally is

0:34:32.480 --> 0:34:34.239
<v Speaker 3>in a phase now where doesn't even want kids. But

0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:37.120
<v Speaker 3>it's still because you know, we all do change our minds,

0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:41.239
<v Speaker 3>that's it. So I like your your response and just

0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:43.920
<v Speaker 3>saying like listen. What might not work for you may

0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:47.440
<v Speaker 3>work for someone else. Yeah, it's strange because I had

0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:49.360
<v Speaker 3>to and it's still everywhere if you guys want to

0:34:49.360 --> 0:34:52.480
<v Speaker 3>go listen to it. I'm really big on just reproductive

0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:55.080
<v Speaker 3>health for women, especially with all of the things that

0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:58.399
<v Speaker 3>my closest friends have had to deal with, and one

0:34:58.400 --> 0:35:01.960
<v Speaker 3>of the things specifically about me being a woman who

0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:04.400
<v Speaker 3>doesn't want kids, it was very important for me to

0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:08.560
<v Speaker 3>support any woman's decision to choose to have eggs. But

0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:11.760
<v Speaker 3>not only that, when you look at genetically within your family,

0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:14.919
<v Speaker 3>Like my other friend who had the breast cancer, there

0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:17.720
<v Speaker 3>was an urge for her sister to have a double

0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 3>missextomy didn't find anything, but when things running your bloodline

0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:23.759
<v Speaker 3>and things like that, you got to do things in

0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:28.920
<v Speaker 3>a preventative care way. That it's important for anyone listening

0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:31.520
<v Speaker 3>to push your friends to do preventative care. Totally like

0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:34.600
<v Speaker 3>because I like that, whether you decide to use them

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:38.120
<v Speaker 3>or not, whether you know I think this is.

0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:40.759
<v Speaker 1>Actually very nuanced convo. It is.

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 2>I believe everything told me today. If she would have

0:35:44.640 --> 0:35:46.319
<v Speaker 2>pushed me to do that, it would have heightened my

0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:49.759
<v Speaker 2>fear that I was already building on where I was

0:35:49.920 --> 0:35:51.680
<v Speaker 2>in that moment, which a lot of people are, which

0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:53.440
<v Speaker 2>is why I want to keep reiterating it. And also,

0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:56.440
<v Speaker 2>this is someone that I really love and trust and

0:35:56.560 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 2>know is so pro everything. The woman's been talking about

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 2>sex and documenting it for over twenty years.

0:36:01.960 --> 0:36:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Of her life.

0:36:03.600 --> 0:36:06.000
<v Speaker 2>There are a lot of people that choose egg freezing

0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 2>because of love and partnership over themselves. There was nothing

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:14.680
<v Speaker 2>about me when I came to her, and that to me,

0:36:15.239 --> 0:36:18.319
<v Speaker 2>that scarcity mindset of like I'm gonna die alone, shit

0:36:19.080 --> 0:36:22.840
<v Speaker 2>is really a fucking problem that now I'm.

0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:24.719
<v Speaker 1>Thinking of this, I don't know.

0:36:24.800 --> 0:36:28.359
<v Speaker 2>I must say, like the mindset that you have to

0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:30.319
<v Speaker 2>be in for egg freezing is also a strong one

0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:32.359
<v Speaker 2>because it's a lot on your body. Yes, So it's

0:36:32.360 --> 0:36:34.960
<v Speaker 2>like I'm already in this flighty mood of going through

0:36:34.960 --> 0:36:35.360
<v Speaker 2>a breakup.

0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:36.040
<v Speaker 1>It was old Bay.

0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:38.840
<v Speaker 2>He's someone I read about a book and I was like,

0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:41.800
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, So now there's no one Yeah, because

0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:43.320
<v Speaker 2>to me, there's got to be a lot of power

0:36:43.360 --> 0:36:44.080
<v Speaker 2>in this choice.

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:46.319
<v Speaker 1>You're right, and I felt like I didn't have it.

0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:49.520
<v Speaker 1>That is, I really appreciate that perspective.

0:36:49.640 --> 0:36:52.600
<v Speaker 5>I have friends who've gone through the process with that feeling.

0:36:53.160 --> 0:36:54.440
<v Speaker 1>I have been afraid.

0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:56.440
<v Speaker 5>Don't get me wrong, I've had moments licking up it

0:36:56.480 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 5>say like I am gonna die alone?

0:36:58.560 --> 0:36:59.839
<v Speaker 1>What's what we're doing right?

0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:03.680
<v Speaker 5>But overwhelmingly, like I said, there's nothing I want more

0:37:04.880 --> 0:37:07.080
<v Speaker 5>than doing it or getting it in the right way,

0:37:07.480 --> 0:37:09.279
<v Speaker 5>the way that feels right for me. And so as

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:11.000
<v Speaker 5>much as I want marriage, I want kids, I'm never

0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:12.160
<v Speaker 5>going to rush that process.

0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:13.880
<v Speaker 1>So it wasn't from a place of fear.

0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:16.080
<v Speaker 5>It was just from a place of I know, I'm

0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:18.239
<v Speaker 5>never going to choose out of desperation, which means I

0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:20.360
<v Speaker 5>might be single for a while.

0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Let me just do this.

0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:24.560
<v Speaker 5>Thing over here, because I know for sure I want children.

0:37:24.680 --> 0:37:26.760
<v Speaker 5>So I will say there were a lot of emotions

0:37:26.800 --> 0:37:30.239
<v Speaker 5>with it. I didn't feel fear so much as sometimes

0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 5>rushing loneliness of like you know, injecting yourself every night

0:37:35.880 --> 0:37:37.319
<v Speaker 5>through a chapter of singleness.

0:37:37.560 --> 0:37:40.240
<v Speaker 1>And there were moments where I was angry. I didn't

0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:42.319
<v Speaker 1>even know what you were angry. That's so odd a.

0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:45.640
<v Speaker 5>Wife, how unfair it can be for women to have

0:37:45.680 --> 0:37:48.480
<v Speaker 5>to be the ones to carry this labor. Sometimes I

0:37:48.560 --> 0:37:50.640
<v Speaker 5>know I'm injecting it, I'm doing it for me because

0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:53.000
<v Speaker 5>I want to be a mom. I know that, hands down,

0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:55.359
<v Speaker 5>but some I also know I want to do it

0:37:55.360 --> 0:37:58.759
<v Speaker 5>with a partner. I know those two things, right, And

0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:02.719
<v Speaker 5>so going through those injections, exhausted, working NonStop, traveling, pay

0:38:02.800 --> 0:38:05.160
<v Speaker 5>out of pocket, I got a dog like, I got

0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:07.799
<v Speaker 5>doings to pay and I'm doing this and it's like,

0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:09.120
<v Speaker 5>what am I doing this for?

0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Who am I doing this for? When will I even

0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:13.239
<v Speaker 1>see a return on this?

0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:15.560
<v Speaker 5>So in certain moments, yeah, I get overwhelmed and the

0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:21.120
<v Speaker 5>emotions would skew into sort of negativity or overwhelmed. But

0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:24.080
<v Speaker 5>more than that, and I mean the eighty percent of

0:38:24.120 --> 0:38:27.839
<v Speaker 5>my experience was rooted in empowerment. I felt like I

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:30.839
<v Speaker 5>was giving myself a gift that I had the privilege

0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:31.400
<v Speaker 5>of being.

0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:32.200
<v Speaker 1>Able to before.

0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:41.759
<v Speaker 5>It is expensive, right, how much did you spend so

0:38:41.920 --> 0:38:45.240
<v Speaker 5>each cycle you've kind of got, you're looking at around

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:47.239
<v Speaker 5>seven to eight thousands just to kind of get it done.

0:38:47.280 --> 0:38:51.280
<v Speaker 5>But then the medicine, that's what medicine is not considered.

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:53.239
<v Speaker 5>I think I certainly didn't give much pops to me

0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:54.440
<v Speaker 5>until it was time for me, and.

0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:57.279
<v Speaker 1>It was like, that is twelve hundred dollars of like

0:38:57.320 --> 0:39:00.640
<v Speaker 1>probably like three to four k a pop just just

0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:01.960
<v Speaker 1>on the medication moones.

0:39:02.040 --> 0:39:04.560
<v Speaker 5>You need more se more meds. You thought you were

0:39:04.560 --> 0:39:06.520
<v Speaker 5>doing a ten day round, now you're doing fourteen days.

0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:07.360
<v Speaker 1>No more days.

0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:10.560
<v Speaker 5>Is easily hundreds, if not into the thousands of dollars,

0:39:10.640 --> 0:39:12.600
<v Speaker 5>depending on what your dosages are, right, and.

0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:15.319
<v Speaker 3>You have to keep them cool, like keep them in

0:39:15.360 --> 0:39:18.560
<v Speaker 3>a certain temperature rated. Yeah, it's a lot, especially if

0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:20.719
<v Speaker 3>you're traveling. You gotta do the ice pack.

0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:21.440
<v Speaker 1>You gotta do.

0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:24.520
<v Speaker 3>It's a whole like science project.

0:39:25.880 --> 0:39:28.520
<v Speaker 2>Yes, like donated so much money and like did all

0:39:28.560 --> 0:39:31.240
<v Speaker 2>these like fundraisers for it, and it was so random

0:39:31.320 --> 0:39:34.520
<v Speaker 2>to see, but I was like, yo, it really is

0:39:34.520 --> 0:39:37.080
<v Speaker 2>like when you're living with money from a place of

0:39:37.120 --> 0:39:39.760
<v Speaker 2>privilege and being like fuck, these problems affect everybody.

0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like I never.

0:39:41.880 --> 0:39:45.080
<v Speaker 2>Considered how expensive would be until about homegirls like not

0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:47.640
<v Speaker 2>vil vado conversation.

0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Not borrow fifteen and dollars. I'm like casual.

0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:53.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh, like yeah, we've been good friends a long time.

0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:56.799
<v Speaker 2>But she's got money, you know, like you know, she's

0:39:56.800 --> 0:39:58.759
<v Speaker 2>not down and out, So it's a weird like this bitch,

0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:00.600
<v Speaker 2>I ain't never ask you for money. She like, look,

0:40:01.080 --> 0:40:02.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm not to quit my job. They cover and half

0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:05.560
<v Speaker 2>the eggs. So I thought, let me get this done

0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:07.080
<v Speaker 2>before it's more expensive.

0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:09.000
<v Speaker 1>And I know you gonna say hell yes to this,

0:40:09.080 --> 0:40:10.680
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh yeah, hell yes.

0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:13.200
<v Speaker 2>So when I asked her how much it was, she said,

0:40:13.200 --> 0:40:15.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna have to spend about sixty five hundred that

0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 2>my job is covering. The rest was twelve total, and

0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:20.439
<v Speaker 2>she said, I actually don't want to spend this money.

0:40:20.480 --> 0:40:21.520
<v Speaker 1>I prefer to buy a house.

0:40:21.800 --> 0:40:24.160
<v Speaker 2>But I realized these are one of the expenses of

0:40:24.200 --> 0:40:26.760
<v Speaker 2>my life that are going to cost a lot of money,

0:40:27.280 --> 0:40:30.680
<v Speaker 2>and it's something that I think can't wait before the

0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:31.839
<v Speaker 2>home rates will go down.

0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:35.440
<v Speaker 1>So are my eggs. I'm gonna do this shit right.

0:40:35.280 --> 0:40:39.640
<v Speaker 2>Now, And I encourage anyone listening the Facebook group many

0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:43.560
<v Speaker 2>advice like the advice you offered. Also, like with insurance,

0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:48.280
<v Speaker 2>there's different type of places and the grants and the fundraisers.

0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:50.839
<v Speaker 2>Did not know you could actually get an egg freezing grant.

0:40:50.880 --> 0:40:51.800
<v Speaker 1>We do this online.

0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:55.400
<v Speaker 2>A lot of families are like donating themselves, a lot

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:57.560
<v Speaker 2>of rich people that had all these X one to

0:40:57.560 --> 0:40:58.600
<v Speaker 2>two kids like Elon.

0:40:59.440 --> 0:41:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Trust me, there's a lot out there.

0:41:02.360 --> 0:41:04.479
<v Speaker 2>So don't feel too discouraged by hearing that big number

0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:08.080
<v Speaker 2>seven thousand, like it got zero apr orty girl zero

0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:11.120
<v Speaker 2>percent thinks like I think there's a way. But one

0:41:11.160 --> 0:41:15.080
<v Speaker 2>thing that's super interested to talk about. You said that

0:41:15.200 --> 0:41:17.160
<v Speaker 2>you want to have a kid with a partner. I

0:41:17.200 --> 0:41:20.359
<v Speaker 2>love hearing that because sometimes the egg and freezing maybe

0:41:20.360 --> 0:41:22.320
<v Speaker 2>be like, okay, well where are you gonna go it?

0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Sprian big gonna pick a friend?

0:41:24.520 --> 0:41:29.279
<v Speaker 2>Do you think that saying it sounds there's so many

0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:31.279
<v Speaker 2>beacons of strength, Like we just saw M. D. K.

0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:34.160
<v Speaker 2>Williams have a big and I was like, oh damn,

0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:37.000
<v Speaker 2>that's so like fuck yeah. But at the same time,

0:41:37.040 --> 0:41:39.479
<v Speaker 2>I've sometimes felt silly by saying I want to wait

0:41:39.520 --> 0:41:41.520
<v Speaker 2>for someone, So what do you think?

0:41:42.040 --> 0:41:43.759
<v Speaker 1>No, I appreciate hearing that.

0:41:43.800 --> 0:41:47.080
<v Speaker 5>I do think, you know, especially because I'm a woman

0:41:47.080 --> 0:41:49.719
<v Speaker 5>who it's like in one breath I'm saying it empowered

0:41:49.719 --> 0:41:51.560
<v Speaker 5>me to freeze my eggs and you know, I'm my

0:41:51.600 --> 0:41:54.480
<v Speaker 5>own person, and then on the other side, I'm like, butt,

0:41:55.600 --> 0:41:57.719
<v Speaker 5>he's babies with you know, But like that is the

0:41:57.800 --> 0:42:00.600
<v Speaker 5>duality of life and being a woman, like two things

0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:03.480
<v Speaker 5>can be true at once, and so I love hearing

0:42:03.520 --> 0:42:06.239
<v Speaker 5>that because I felt similarly where it's kind of like

0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:09.040
<v Speaker 5>now This is the part I have to admit. I

0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:12.239
<v Speaker 5>do want the partner. I want the marriage, I want

0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:15.520
<v Speaker 5>the husband. I want to create a family unit that

0:42:15.920 --> 0:42:19.439
<v Speaker 5>looks and feels like my family unit in certain ways

0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:20.280
<v Speaker 5>and different the others.

0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:21.839
<v Speaker 1>But I want that and I love.

0:42:21.920 --> 0:42:24.480
<v Speaker 3>What I love about what you're saying, too, is they

0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:27.719
<v Speaker 3>confuse the word empowered when a woman says it to

0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:32.120
<v Speaker 3>mean this masculine day we hate man movement, And it's like,

0:42:32.239 --> 0:42:35.320
<v Speaker 3>you can be an empowered woman and want a partner

0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:39.919
<v Speaker 3>or a man right next to you too. Sexual liberation, empowerment, feminism,

0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:43.080
<v Speaker 3>all these things have been related to women who hate men.

0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:46.160
<v Speaker 3>And I can be an empowered, powerful woman and still

0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:50.520
<v Speaker 3>want the traditional looks of a relationship or want a

0:42:50.560 --> 0:42:52.560
<v Speaker 3>man by my side. So I love that, you know,

0:42:52.719 --> 0:42:55.560
<v Speaker 3>like two things can be true. Bitch, I'm empowered and

0:42:55.600 --> 0:42:56.319
<v Speaker 3>I still want a man.

0:42:56.760 --> 0:42:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, but that is exactly what I like.

0:42:58.880 --> 0:43:00.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's anything wrong with saying that, Like,

0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:03.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, seeking partnership or love is like that, shit

0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:06.520
<v Speaker 2>is okay, Like bitch o, people I don't like going

0:43:06.520 --> 0:43:09.680
<v Speaker 2>out to the club alone.

0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:11.080
<v Speaker 1>Don't al of fire? Right right?

0:43:11.280 --> 0:43:14.560
<v Speaker 3>Can I ask you if you and this if I

0:43:14.560 --> 0:43:16.080
<v Speaker 3>don't know if this is a good question not to

0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:18.239
<v Speaker 3>ask you, but I'm but it went to my mind.

0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, as a woman still aging.

0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:23.160
<v Speaker 3>There also is a thing by the way, once you're

0:43:23.280 --> 0:43:27.239
<v Speaker 3>like thirty four year geriatric pregnancy, right, and so is

0:43:27.280 --> 0:43:30.319
<v Speaker 3>there a timeline that you have for yourself bringing back

0:43:30.320 --> 0:43:32.680
<v Speaker 3>ebony again, she had a timeline. If I don't get

0:43:32.680 --> 0:43:34.560
<v Speaker 3>a partner by this, I'm still going forward with it

0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:38.000
<v Speaker 3>because again, complications can arise. Do you have a timeline

0:43:38.120 --> 0:43:40.959
<v Speaker 3>or would you be open to surrogacy? If you feel

0:43:41.040 --> 0:43:43.239
<v Speaker 3>like I am open, you are open to serrogacy.

0:43:43.320 --> 0:43:46.719
<v Speaker 5>Okay, already I would like to experience the journey of

0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:52.040
<v Speaker 5>pregnancy for myself, right, God is gonna do them when

0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:53.440
<v Speaker 5>that path is going to be laid out, how it

0:43:53.480 --> 0:43:56.160
<v Speaker 5>will be. So I am not so attached to the

0:43:56.200 --> 0:43:57.960
<v Speaker 5>idea of that that I would be devastating to tell.

0:43:58.080 --> 0:44:01.160
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I like that A lot of years have learned

0:44:01.160 --> 0:44:04.120
<v Speaker 1>it is detached. I'll set the intention. Who knows, you know?

0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:07.239
<v Speaker 2>Judging for surrogacy though, did you see how the world

0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:11.760
<v Speaker 2>treated Kim Kardashian. Now, yeah, we all thought, oh, her body,

0:44:11.840 --> 0:44:13.040
<v Speaker 2>she doesn'tant to fuck up her body.

0:44:13.040 --> 0:44:14.880
<v Speaker 1>But I'm like, oh, they're helpless.

0:44:15.760 --> 0:44:17.600
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of health perss. I think, what's great

0:44:17.640 --> 0:44:20.520
<v Speaker 3>about what you said? And I'm a I'm a bravo girly.

0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:22.960
<v Speaker 1>So I loved it these convers carrieon.

0:44:23.320 --> 0:44:28.719
<v Speaker 3>I loved these conversations, like the IVF conversation Candy went

0:44:28.760 --> 0:44:33.759
<v Speaker 3>through sarrogacy. Shamia is also, you know, showing her her

0:44:33.840 --> 0:44:37.680
<v Speaker 3>journey going through that. I think specifically as black women

0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:38.600
<v Speaker 3>with that, because it's.

0:44:38.480 --> 0:44:41.040
<v Speaker 1>The white girl on New York that was going through that.

0:44:41.239 --> 0:44:44.560
<v Speaker 3>But I think that it's really dope that now these

0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:48.880
<v Speaker 3>conversations are being put into entertainment because this is why

0:44:48.960 --> 0:44:50.759
<v Speaker 3>we're learning about it. These are why we're able to

0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:54.439
<v Speaker 3>have these conversations and hopefully people listening are like, oh shit,

0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:57.200
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know this, Like they're they do want to

0:44:57.200 --> 0:44:59.480
<v Speaker 3>hear us talking about sucking dick on the show, right,

0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:03.760
<v Speaker 3>because it's entertainment. But in the ways that we're experiencing entertainment,

0:45:03.760 --> 0:45:07.040
<v Speaker 3>these are the conversations that people aren't interested in hearing about.

0:45:07.280 --> 0:45:09.719
<v Speaker 3>What is this journey about? What, what does it feel like?

0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:11.680
<v Speaker 3>What are the emotions in what ways? If this is

0:45:11.680 --> 0:45:14.600
<v Speaker 3>what I have to consider, do I navigate this for

0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:18.160
<v Speaker 3>myself and specifically as black women holding the space for

0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:19.040
<v Speaker 3>these conversations.

0:45:19.080 --> 0:45:20.440
<v Speaker 1>It's so important.

0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:23.120
<v Speaker 3>So I appreciate that absolucely just for you. Want to

0:45:23.239 --> 0:45:25.200
<v Speaker 3>like you open to sharing this?

0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:28.120
<v Speaker 1>I know I'm more than happy to. Is that meed

0:45:28.200 --> 0:45:28.600
<v Speaker 1>my phone?

0:45:28.680 --> 0:45:33.960
<v Speaker 2>Don't worry, don't the eggs are calling like, hey, I

0:45:34.200 --> 0:45:34.960
<v Speaker 2>like to patch us in.

0:45:35.040 --> 0:45:36.960
<v Speaker 1>We have something. I just googled how.

0:45:36.960 --> 0:45:39.520
<v Speaker 2>Much surrogacy costs, and for insurance it says between ten

0:45:39.600 --> 0:45:40.920
<v Speaker 2>to thirty thousand dollars.

0:45:41.040 --> 0:45:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was my album.

0:45:43.640 --> 0:45:49.239
<v Speaker 5>My rounds were averaging about Fourteencroency is a whole nother call.

0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:53.719
<v Speaker 1>You gotta be rich. You gotta be rich for listen, now,

0:45:53.800 --> 0:45:57.080
<v Speaker 1>you gotta be rich usual baby mama, because let me

0:45:57.080 --> 0:45:58.640
<v Speaker 1>tell you what I would do. Wait, but baby Mama,

0:45:58.680 --> 0:46:00.640
<v Speaker 1>all right for sure? Oh.

0:46:01.040 --> 0:46:03.400
<v Speaker 2>At first I was like, so I feel like if

0:46:03.440 --> 0:46:06.160
<v Speaker 2>I go through an agency, if I had to do surrogacy.

0:46:06.719 --> 0:46:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember the movie Baby Mama? Yeah? Yeah, yeah?

0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:11.120
<v Speaker 2>Do you remember with Tina Fey It was Amy Poehler

0:46:11.239 --> 0:46:12.960
<v Speaker 2>and then she had her baby, but there were she

0:46:13.040 --> 0:46:14.480
<v Speaker 2>was like kind of trailer park, they'd move it.

0:46:15.040 --> 0:46:17.160
<v Speaker 1>So in my head, I'm like, oh my god, I'm

0:46:17.160 --> 0:46:21.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna have a horror story. So I feel like I

0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:21.800
<v Speaker 1>would do.

0:46:21.760 --> 0:46:26.080
<v Speaker 2>My best to choose someone that I know, don't know

0:46:27.200 --> 0:46:29.080
<v Speaker 2>and see if if maybe someone that doesn't want to

0:46:29.080 --> 0:46:32.439
<v Speaker 2>have children, and maybe see if they be comfortable with it.

0:46:32.680 --> 0:46:35.200
<v Speaker 5>Oh, so you are considering finding someone to be a

0:46:35.200 --> 0:46:37.319
<v Speaker 5>surrogate that I know, I kind of know someone who

0:46:37.320 --> 0:46:38.360
<v Speaker 5>would go through.

0:46:38.200 --> 0:46:39.800
<v Speaker 1>That process for it.

0:46:39.800 --> 0:46:42.840
<v Speaker 2>It's like, what kind of connection would I want with

0:46:42.960 --> 0:46:46.160
<v Speaker 2>this person? And if I chose someone from a website.

0:46:46.400 --> 0:46:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Baby Mama used to be one of my favorite movies

0:46:48.040 --> 0:46:50.840
<v Speaker 2>to throw on as a teenager, and I literally I think.

0:46:50.719 --> 0:46:52.600
<v Speaker 1>It's that trauma that you care from watching the movie

0:46:52.600 --> 0:46:54.719
<v Speaker 1>that yeah, just also thinking like what have you just

0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:55.760
<v Speaker 1>started eating bullshit?

0:46:55.840 --> 0:46:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I'm just some person and you really need to

0:46:57.920 --> 0:46:59.799
<v Speaker 2>just get some bread at the end of the day.

0:46:59.800 --> 0:47:01.919
<v Speaker 1>Maybe don't. You're not doing this because.

0:47:02.160 --> 0:47:05.160
<v Speaker 3>I want someone who to hate kids. I want someone

0:47:05.200 --> 0:47:08.239
<v Speaker 3>who knows how to be pregnant. I want someone who

0:47:08.680 --> 0:47:12.080
<v Speaker 3>who didn't had the bag. I want a woman who

0:47:12.120 --> 0:47:13.040
<v Speaker 3>knows how to be pregnant.

0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:14.680
<v Speaker 1>It's real. It's like I want you.

0:47:14.600 --> 0:47:17.240
<v Speaker 2>To eat super Greens one percent. Do y'all know Miles

0:47:17.280 --> 0:47:19.359
<v Speaker 2>the music kid? Have you ever seen him, his little

0:47:19.320 --> 0:47:22.120
<v Speaker 2>white boy. He can hear a note and fucking play

0:47:22.120 --> 0:47:23.920
<v Speaker 2>it and like just do all this shit. He's like

0:47:23.920 --> 0:47:26.440
<v Speaker 2>super super super smart. But that's like millions of followers.

0:47:26.560 --> 0:47:29.440
<v Speaker 2>And someone left in the comments to his mother what

0:47:29.600 --> 0:47:33.000
<v Speaker 2>did you eat? What was different? And I'm for real,

0:47:33.160 --> 0:47:35.480
<v Speaker 2>like what y'all doing there? I want that kid speaking

0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:37.879
<v Speaker 2>Japanese to come out. You know what's crazy you saying

0:47:37.880 --> 0:47:41.080
<v Speaker 2>that is because they have it. He might be autistic

0:47:41.280 --> 0:47:44.279
<v Speaker 2>and there's only no, no, no, but in a good way.

0:47:44.040 --> 0:47:47.279
<v Speaker 1>And when there's baby genius sit you want to.

0:47:47.320 --> 0:47:50.960
<v Speaker 3>Lean into genius like that phrase instead of autism.

0:47:51.040 --> 0:47:53.640
<v Speaker 1>But we got to get tired. Oh my god.

0:47:53.840 --> 0:47:59.600
<v Speaker 3>President alright, she said, just so you know, I do

0:47:59.719 --> 0:48:01.759
<v Speaker 3>not are the thoughts and opinions of the bitches on

0:48:01.800 --> 0:48:02.480
<v Speaker 3>this podcast.

0:48:02.800 --> 0:48:06.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm just a guess ohot opin that.

0:48:06.600 --> 0:48:10.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm up evil now terraffic. Just Wo'd love to know

0:48:11.880 --> 0:48:13.919
<v Speaker 2>who is your support system during the time.

0:48:14.640 --> 0:48:17.320
<v Speaker 5>I love that question. I'm super close with my family.

0:48:17.640 --> 0:48:20.359
<v Speaker 5>I've gotten closer to my mother. I've always been really

0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:22.359
<v Speaker 5>close with both of my parents, but I've always been

0:48:22.400 --> 0:48:24.440
<v Speaker 5>a daddy's girl, like we were just so synced in

0:48:24.520 --> 0:48:27.640
<v Speaker 5>and for those twenties when I was navigating the workplace

0:48:27.680 --> 0:48:30.120
<v Speaker 5>and climbing and conquering, like that's my dude.

0:48:29.880 --> 0:48:33.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm calling Joe. My mom. We've always been really tight.

0:48:33.560 --> 0:48:36.400
<v Speaker 5>As I have thought more about motherhood, thought and gone

0:48:36.400 --> 0:48:39.440
<v Speaker 5>through this journey of you know, the egg freezing, I

0:48:39.440 --> 0:48:42.680
<v Speaker 5>have such an appreciation for her that I couldn't have

0:48:42.760 --> 0:48:44.439
<v Speaker 5>before I started thinking in that way.

0:48:44.520 --> 0:48:44.880
<v Speaker 1>I love it.

0:48:44.880 --> 0:48:47.400
<v Speaker 5>And so my mom has been an incredible sort of

0:48:47.440 --> 0:48:49.919
<v Speaker 5>side by side person in this calling me. She would

0:48:49.960 --> 0:48:51.919
<v Speaker 5>sometimes sit with me on FaceTime when I was doing

0:48:51.960 --> 0:48:54.280
<v Speaker 5>the injections, just so that I didn't have to feel alone.

0:48:54.520 --> 0:48:55.440
<v Speaker 1>There was someone there.

0:48:55.280 --> 0:48:58.680
<v Speaker 5>To witness this part of my journey, which otherwise would

0:48:58.719 --> 0:49:01.080
<v Speaker 5>have felt very isolating. But I would say, it's it's

0:49:01.120 --> 0:49:04.600
<v Speaker 5>my parents, it's my family, my best friends. I have beautiful,

0:49:04.640 --> 0:49:07.480
<v Speaker 5>incredible women in my life, and we are so locked

0:49:07.480 --> 0:49:11.520
<v Speaker 5>in on supporting each other's personal, professional, emotional journeys. So

0:49:11.680 --> 0:49:15.200
<v Speaker 5>my best friend, you know, she's in Phoenix, but she

0:49:15.360 --> 0:49:17.200
<v Speaker 5>was always there if I needed to talk, if I

0:49:17.239 --> 0:49:21.000
<v Speaker 5>needed to download It's Yeah, it's actually a really special

0:49:21.000 --> 0:49:23.520
<v Speaker 5>thing to go through because even though doing it can

0:49:23.560 --> 0:49:26.280
<v Speaker 5>feel isolating, or maybe you feel so alone, you realize

0:49:26.280 --> 0:49:30.200
<v Speaker 5>you have this incredible tribe, this incredible community of people who,

0:49:30.320 --> 0:49:32.560
<v Speaker 5>particularly if you're going through it as a single person

0:49:32.600 --> 0:49:35.719
<v Speaker 5>who doesn't want to be single forever, you're reminded of

0:49:35.719 --> 0:49:38.680
<v Speaker 5>all the people who show up for you in that gap.

0:49:38.760 --> 0:49:40.200
<v Speaker 1>So for me, it's the family, it's.

0:49:40.000 --> 0:49:43.839
<v Speaker 2>The love good, like I think finding an anchor through

0:49:44.160 --> 0:49:45.920
<v Speaker 2>any intense medical even.

0:49:45.680 --> 0:49:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm just thinking because you're you're motioning like the

0:49:48.360 --> 0:49:50.279
<v Speaker 1>stuffach even weight loss brouh.

0:49:50.360 --> 0:49:53.040
<v Speaker 2>One of my homegirls just started fucking ozipa and she'd

0:49:53.080 --> 0:49:56.120
<v Speaker 2>be calling me really like struggling through how she feels

0:49:56.120 --> 0:49:57.600
<v Speaker 2>about it. She's like, Damn, I thought I love my

0:49:57.680 --> 0:49:59.759
<v Speaker 2>body and now loving myself in a way that makes

0:49:59.760 --> 0:50:02.080
<v Speaker 2>me feel like, did I hate myself? Like I think

0:50:02.239 --> 0:50:05.320
<v Speaker 2>any kind of change that we're going through, we really

0:50:05.360 --> 0:50:07.680
<v Speaker 2>do need to find that person that we can still

0:50:07.719 --> 0:50:11.040
<v Speaker 2>all to if therapy isn't for you, because some people

0:50:11.640 --> 0:50:13.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't know it doesn't work for them. I do

0:50:13.840 --> 0:50:16.359
<v Speaker 2>my best, and sometimes it can be seasonal with friends,

0:50:16.440 --> 0:50:18.600
<v Speaker 2>right Like, I'm sure when I've become a mom, I

0:50:18.680 --> 0:50:22.240
<v Speaker 2>may become closer to certain friends I wasn't for Right now.

0:50:22.080 --> 0:50:24.279
<v Speaker 1>I like my whole friends I'm a man. I like

0:50:24.320 --> 0:50:25.560
<v Speaker 1>going to the club. You know what I'm saying.

0:50:25.680 --> 0:50:28.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So like I think really finding that anchor, and

0:50:28.239 --> 0:50:30.600
<v Speaker 2>I like that you've got your family. For those who

0:50:30.680 --> 0:50:34.280
<v Speaker 2>don't like, get that girl squad going, Ladies listening seriously,

0:50:34.360 --> 0:50:36.200
<v Speaker 2>Like if there's someone that you haven't.

0:50:35.960 --> 0:50:37.839
<v Speaker 1>Talked to in a while, pick up the phone.

0:50:38.120 --> 0:50:42.080
<v Speaker 2>Making sure that, like, we're really investing in those friendships,

0:50:42.160 --> 0:50:45.080
<v Speaker 2>because even your partner may not be easy to talk

0:50:45.080 --> 0:50:46.319
<v Speaker 2>to you for actially.

0:50:46.120 --> 0:50:48.680
<v Speaker 5>I just wouldn't understand, no matter how hard they may try.

0:50:48.719 --> 0:50:50.920
<v Speaker 5>And I appreciate you saying that because it was only

0:50:51.000 --> 0:50:53.479
<v Speaker 5>after I started speaking out publicly about this a couple

0:50:53.480 --> 0:50:56.560
<v Speaker 5>of years ago. Friends I have obviously not my besties,

0:50:56.560 --> 0:50:58.800
<v Speaker 5>we would have talked about it, but that I've broken

0:50:58.840 --> 0:50:59.239
<v Speaker 5>red with.

0:50:59.560 --> 0:51:01.760
<v Speaker 1>We talked about overwine, about all the things.

0:51:02.000 --> 0:51:04.960
<v Speaker 5>They never brought it up, and so once I came

0:51:04.960 --> 0:51:06.320
<v Speaker 5>out publicly, they were texting me.

0:51:06.320 --> 0:51:08.439
<v Speaker 1>You're like, oh my god, girl, I did it five

0:51:08.520 --> 0:51:08.920
<v Speaker 1>years old.

0:51:09.520 --> 0:51:11.560
<v Speaker 3>You don't say nothing because I should have probably knocked

0:51:11.560 --> 0:51:13.480
<v Speaker 3>it out again, these are things, yea, sometimes we don't

0:51:14.640 --> 0:51:16.200
<v Speaker 3>share and you do it by yourself.

0:51:16.280 --> 0:51:18.080
<v Speaker 1>So it's that's why I said I love you.

0:51:18.120 --> 0:51:22.200
<v Speaker 5>I realized like man, she felt like she had to

0:51:22.280 --> 0:51:25.160
<v Speaker 5>just do that, and there was way more shadowy stigma

0:51:25.239 --> 0:51:28.239
<v Speaker 5>around it then than there is now. Or there were

0:51:28.280 --> 0:51:30.160
<v Speaker 5>friends who were like, oh my god, I didn't know

0:51:30.160 --> 0:51:31.880
<v Speaker 5>you did it. Have so many questions. I have my

0:51:31.920 --> 0:51:34.680
<v Speaker 5>first meeting with a doctor or a friend telling me

0:51:34.800 --> 0:51:38.120
<v Speaker 5>I just booked my first consultation and I found out.

0:51:38.239 --> 0:51:40.080
<v Speaker 1>I've got fibers or I've got clever.

0:51:40.239 --> 0:51:43.319
<v Speaker 5>But I'm so glad that it pushed them to do it,

0:51:43.400 --> 0:51:46.440
<v Speaker 5>because now you know the information is power, and now

0:51:46.480 --> 0:51:47.319
<v Speaker 5>you know what to do with it.

0:51:47.320 --> 0:51:48.000
<v Speaker 1>It might suck.

0:51:48.239 --> 0:51:49.759
<v Speaker 5>I know, we get tempted to stick our heads in

0:51:49.800 --> 0:51:52.640
<v Speaker 5>the sand for things that are uncomfortable or overwhelming.

0:51:52.080 --> 0:51:55.719
<v Speaker 1>Myself included, but I promise I won't promise, I'll speak

0:51:55.719 --> 0:51:56.320
<v Speaker 1>for myself.

0:51:56.560 --> 0:51:59.680
<v Speaker 5>I would rather know what I am working with, not

0:51:59.760 --> 0:52:02.760
<v Speaker 5>work so that I can make a conscious and informed decision,

0:52:03.080 --> 0:52:04.840
<v Speaker 5>then just keep putting it off because I'm afraid of

0:52:04.840 --> 0:52:06.279
<v Speaker 5>the answer, because the answer is are going to be

0:52:06.320 --> 0:52:08.920
<v Speaker 5>my reality regardless, and I'd rather not wait into the

0:52:09.000 --> 0:52:11.439
<v Speaker 5>last minute. So the friends who have popped in like hey,

0:52:11.520 --> 0:52:13.920
<v Speaker 5>can you tell me more, I've actually been curious. It

0:52:14.000 --> 0:52:18.000
<v Speaker 5>made me realize so many of us, women, particularly in

0:52:18.040 --> 0:52:22.000
<v Speaker 5>our thirties and beyond, have been navigating this, if only internally,

0:52:22.520 --> 0:52:23.800
<v Speaker 5>and I hope through.

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<v Speaker 1>Conversations like these, we just kind of remove the stima.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not it's serious, but it's not that it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to be that there's someone else has done it,

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<v Speaker 1>like you don know done it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's the same way as women we used

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<v Speaker 3>to be embarrassed to have to go get pads and

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<v Speaker 3>tamans off the store.

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<v Speaker 1>And the older you get, the more normalized and.

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<v Speaker 3>Comfortable you are with it. That's the way we have

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<v Speaker 3>to treat these types of conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>And most times, like women will really offer themselves up

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<v Speaker 2>to you, like I've had so many firebriad experiences. In

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<v Speaker 2>last year, I heard some girls I feel like they

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<v Speaker 2>have you now. But I know when I jumped in

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<v Speaker 2>that convo at a random dinner, They're like about but

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<v Speaker 2>I was eating alone at Alba.

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<v Speaker 1>Was so good.

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<v Speaker 2>These girls were like freaking out by fevers. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>so sorry to jump in.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I cheme in her? I fid uf me too,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't great.

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<v Speaker 2>Tot tried this and they were like really grateful dinner

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm telling you like the way we can all

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<v Speaker 2>show up for each other. But again, what happened to

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<v Speaker 2>me my experience with being suggested egg freezing was by

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<v Speaker 2>a male doctor who's very pushy about it. That sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>that medical phobia of like you're already like fearful of

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<v Speaker 2>the doctor, and now they make you more scared, like

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<v Speaker 2>there's got to be a warm place.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we hope we were that few today. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know that you guys are mad because you want

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<v Speaker 1>to know.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's very fucking has she like me, Zuri before you

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<v Speaker 2>get out of here, tell them where to find you,

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<v Speaker 2>but also tell them your favorite position.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want to be like, tell them who you're

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<v Speaker 5>a fing it tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I want to do that. Okay, what's

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<v Speaker 1>the first question? Favorite position? That was the second question,

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<v Speaker 1>But I answer the asking. She said, I'm a virgin.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll make it a really nice question for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's how you want to know out Are you looking

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<v Speaker 2>down or are you looking in his eyes?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? It just depends.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm a Gemini, So I trust me when I say

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<v Speaker 5>I am a very people would be surprised to experience.

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<v Speaker 1>Me and all the dimensions. I know my dimensions. It

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<v Speaker 1>depends on the day, because if that is not me,

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<v Speaker 1>you trying to get out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>She also, by the way, has on very little hoops

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<v Speaker 2>and you know what they say, the bigger than hoop.

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<v Speaker 5>So not.

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<v Speaker 1>For Zurri. Oh wait, I'm not even taking this for.

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<v Speaker 5>I like to keep it fine and I like to

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<v Speaker 5>switch things up, and I like to you know, we'll put.

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<v Speaker 2>Some resources if we can, We'll ask it. We'll put

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<v Speaker 2>the name of that place in Chicago. We'll put as

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<v Speaker 2>many resources as we can to help egg freezing. In

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<v Speaker 2>the description, I will remind myself to do this because

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<v Speaker 2>I had.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, and I have a highlight ro Go to my Instagram.

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<v Speaker 5>I've got highlight Q and as all of this as

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<v Speaker 5>you for sure. I have so much content on Instagram

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<v Speaker 5>where followers have asked me, and I'm super transparent.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it into the supplements I've taken.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm a big advocate for Eastern medicine in addition to

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<v Speaker 5>Western practices, acupuncture, eastam, all the things.

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<v Speaker 1>So go there for that. And then also, can I

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<v Speaker 1>play a little something real quick? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, so we just want you to join a wait list.

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<v Speaker 5>I have a new show that by the time this

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<v Speaker 5>comes out maybe premier if well, yes, so you'll see

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<v Speaker 5>it on Instagram if it's happened by then. But I

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<v Speaker 5>also have a wait list join zurivip dot com. It'll

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<v Speaker 5>be the first to know. I'm really excited about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I like you. I like you name your show.

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<v Speaker 5>So the show is called Not About Sports and it

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<v Speaker 5>is an incredibly fun, irreverent and thoughtful series interview series

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<v Speaker 5>with some of the world's biggest sports stars, athletes, wax

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<v Speaker 5>sports adjacent realities. Yes, which is very fun about everything

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<v Speaker 1>For talking about the stories not the stats. Like it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very excited. That is when we get in. Where

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<v Speaker 1>can we watch? So it's digital so you'll be able

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<v Speaker 1>to watch on YouTube. Depend on the stairs.

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<v Speaker 5>You can watch it now on YouTube YouTube dot com

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<v Speaker 5>slash Hayzury Hall.

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<v Speaker 1>And then also we're doing short form on Instagram. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you see it there, got it? I love that. Yes, yes, well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you Sary so much for joining h thank you.

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