1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: This is the Huddle Up Podcast with JP Shadrick, Bucky Brooks, 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: and John Oshan. The Huddle Up Podcast starts right now. 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: Welcome into another Huddle Up podcast. J P. Shadrick, Bucky Brooks, 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: John Osier back with us this week and planning to 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: get to free agency is just a few hours away, 6 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: but I feel like it's already been done. The negotiation 7 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: window is open. We'll get to all the reported names, 8 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: and there are many reported to be affiliated with the Jaguars. 9 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: Moving ahead, Tuesday was an interesting day, Jaguars fans freaking 10 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: out early, but they seem to cool off in the afternoon. 11 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: We'll get the mindset there. We'll go through some of 12 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: the players that have agreed to terms of course, a 13 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: few big names around the NFL, and some social media questions. 14 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: Was hot and heavy on Twitter this week. Remember to 15 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: subscribe to the Official Jaguars Podcast Network. It's on Apple, iTunes, Spotify, 16 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,639 Speaker 1: or whereever else you get your pods and give us 17 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:08,559 Speaker 1: that five star rating. John Osier, Bucky Brooks, Bucky, I mean, John, 18 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: you've been busy, certainly. I know that on the Jaguars 19 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: side of things, getting ready for when things can actually 20 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 1: be reported by the Jaguars. But Bucky, you're all over 21 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: the place with the free agency frenzy. Now, it's a lot, 22 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: it's a lot going on. It's bananas watching all of 23 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: the activity. I think the NFL has done a great 24 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: job of making uh the league relevant twelve months out 25 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: the year. Every month there's some kind of similar moment 26 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: where you have to pay attention. Free agency frenzy has 27 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: become like a a thing where you have to see 28 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: all these things, these deals that are reported but not official, 29 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: and so we're trying to figure out who's who in 30 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: West what. But it's exciting. And then with the Jaguar 31 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: is just a flurry of activity over the last couple 32 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: of days. We will see a brand new squad when 33 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: they take the field. Yeah, John, this time he years 34 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: is quite interesting because it's you know, as players that 35 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: aren't going back to the original team for one reason 36 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: or another. But there's big money flying out the door. John, Well, 37 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: it's huge money. And I would I think we all 38 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: talked about this last week that by this time this 39 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: week we would have a good idea of what their 40 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: approach and their philosophy was going to be in the build. 41 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: And I understand that fans panicked when there was no 42 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: you know, they didn't sign United star Lombardi, the whole 43 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: bunch at twelve oh one yesterday, So everybody's panicking, and 44 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: I understand that. But now that you're sort of seeing 45 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,399 Speaker 1: the big picture of what they're doing, we'll go through 46 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: some of the names later. But they clearly thought they 47 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: needed a couple of starters in the secondary. They thought 48 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: they needed to beef up the defensive line. Lo and behold, 49 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: guess what, JP. They wound up doing that after that 50 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: first you know, I'm say after the first wave. The 51 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: first wave is a couple of days of this they 52 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: did after the first hour. So they're okay, And I 53 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 1: think you're seeing clearly with the what is it twelve guy? 54 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: At the time of this talk, they knew they had 55 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:13,119 Speaker 1: to get some positions filled where they didn't want a 56 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: repeat of two thousand thirteen. Jpn O what I'm talking 57 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: about two thousand thirteen when the last regime came in here, 58 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: they touched to the core and said we're gonna build 59 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: with rookies and let them develop. Looking back, that didn't work. 60 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: It was too much too soon for a lot of guys, 61 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 1: and because of rookies. They couldn't function a lot of times. Well, 62 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: this Brazime clearly said, you know what, we need some 63 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: help compared to last year, but we need to have 64 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: some twenty seven or twenty eight year old guys, where 65 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: in two thousand thirteen they were twenty two year old guys. 66 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: That's a big difference in the NFL. They're trying to 67 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: make sure they're not overmanned an outmatch next year. JP. 68 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: Yeah no, no more of this youngest team in the 69 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: NFL stuff with some of the names that are reported. 70 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: We'll get to those coming up, Bucky. Those days seemed 71 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: like a lot of draft he or not the sign 72 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: J not yet, not yet. I keep looking. I keep 73 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: looking at the phone, waiting for the ninto four number 74 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: to come up. But it hasn't popped up yet. Maybe 75 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: they're waiting. Maybe they're waiting for it to be official. Yeah, 76 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: Like it's funny though, Like that's a great point and observation, uh, 77 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: John about the team getting older, because one of the 78 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: things that you always worried about when you have a 79 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: college coach, are they going to have a lot of 80 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: real young players and maybe too young because that's their 81 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: their comfort zone. That's their sweet spot. But because they've 82 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: actually inherited a roster that already had a lot of youth, 83 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 1: they wanted to ask some experience and some expertise, and 84 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: they certainly have done that with the names that they 85 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: brought in. I am still curious. I can't wait to 86 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: see what this looks like when they get on the 87 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: field together, because right now it's kind of like a 88 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: hodgepodge of a bunch of different players with different talents. 89 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: Now you want to see how are they going to 90 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: fit them in into whatever scheme The Jacks play on 91 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. So let's go now on 92 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: the Huddle Up Podcast to some of the names that 93 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: have been reported and reportedly linked to the Jacksonville Jaguars 94 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: over the last couple of days, and let's start off 95 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: with the biggest of them all. Now, note we are 96 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: recording this Tuesday afternoon at five thirty. Maybe there's a 97 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: bigger name after this before the airs at eight am. 98 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: But Shaquille Griffin, cornerback from Seattle a three year deal 99 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: reportedly up to forty four and a half million twenty 100 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: nine million guaranteed, has six career interceptions, three of those 101 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: last season and Bucky He's he was the top corner available. Yeah. 102 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: Now it's it's funny because there's you always wonder how 103 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: these corners going to play, leaving one scheme going to another. 104 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: But what I would say about Shaquille Griffin long he's athletic. 105 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: You talked about six career interceptions. Part of that is 106 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 1: because they play so much man to man on the outside. 107 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: His back is always at the quarterback, so he didn't 108 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: get a chance to get a lot of those easy 109 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: interceptions off tips and overthrows. Uh, tough tackling on the perimeter, 110 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: has the ability to play press, not necessarily an off corner. 111 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: When we think about how this scheme and how they 112 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: typically will play, I would expect them to be nose 113 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: and nose in the face of the receivers a ton. 114 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: But I think the comfort comes in you now have 115 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: an experienced player who may be able to handle the 116 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: duties of the number one role. So now C. J. 117 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: Henderson can kind of come along and figure it out 118 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: as he's getting comfortable with the league, and then maybe 119 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: he eventually will take it over. But right now, I 120 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: think Shaquille Griffin comes over. He's the number one, and 121 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: then CJ. Henderson will go to the other side and 122 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: maybe match up with whoever is on that side. It 123 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: strikes me they just got good at corner. C J 124 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: is not bad, you don't know what he is, but 125 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,799 Speaker 1: they went from being really questionable with corner too potentially 126 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: really good. Yeah, I mean, I think so. I think. 127 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: I think it is one where you upgraded because not 128 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: only c J and um Griffin, but it's bringing the 129 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: other guys back. We talked last year during the regular 130 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: season about Sidney Jones being someone that was of interest 131 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: because he was a second round pick for the Philadelphia Eagles. 132 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: Had the Achilles never really came back. Comes down to 133 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: Jacksonvia plays a handful of games and held up pretty 134 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: well in those things. So now as you beef it 135 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: out and think about your nickel and your dime packages 136 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: where you have five and six defenders on the field, well, 137 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: now it looks like you have four athletic corners that 138 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: command those roles. You go and get another safety and 139 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: those things you feel better about your defense in the 140 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: back end. Let's stay on the secondary. Ray Sean Jenkins 141 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: added six pounder of fourth round pick in out of 142 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: Miami by the Chargers, a regular starter the last two 143 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: years for the Chargers and five career picks Bucky over 144 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: the last two seasons those interceptions. Yeah, he got bummed 145 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: into the starting lineup when they had injuries to Derwin James, 146 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: So that gave my opportunity to get on the field. 147 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: He spent the first two years really uh dominating as 148 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: a special teams player, very active cover teams, can do 149 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: all those things. As safety, I would say he's solid. 150 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that he's exceptional in any area. I 151 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: think what you do is you have someone that you 152 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: can put in a spot as a place older and 153 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: if he starts, great, but if you find better then 154 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: it doesn't prevent you from signing him. And so we'll 155 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: see there's so many names and there's so many critical 156 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: positions to the the backups that you just need to 157 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: make sure you keep stock stock filling talent. We just 158 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: continue to need more talent. Yeah, and the back end 159 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: of that secondary. John we mentioned the corner spots a 160 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: moment ago, but it urban Meyer the other week said 161 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: it's the full secondary needs some work in places and 162 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: this is a big get. It feels like, Yeah, when 163 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: he talked about it, he said it was gonad to 164 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 1: be built. He mentioned c. J. Henderson, didn't really mention 165 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 1: anybody else, So Bucky talked about corner safety. Now you've 166 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: got Daniel Thomas, you have Jared Wilson, you have what 167 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: seems to be a bunch of solid veteran guys who 168 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: have been there before. Not Daniel Thomas. He's in the 169 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: second year. There's some potential there, but you don't know 170 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: what it was. He didn't play enough last year to 171 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: know what he is. So wouldn't surprise me if somewhere 172 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: in those first five picks if safety came up, just 173 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: because there's there's some stuff now, but what you do 174 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: like and and this is the lead wide thing teams 175 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: try to do. But it seems like they're accomplishing it 176 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: looks like they're accomplishing the goal of if something's not 177 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: really grabbing them at the draft outside a quarterback, that 178 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: they don't have to go particular directions. And at safety, 179 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: if the more we kid is there still makes sense. 180 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: If he's not there, you don't have to reach it 181 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: that spot. It seems in the secondary they've accomplished not 182 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: having to reach in the draft. Yeah, I think that's 183 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: what you're you're trying to do some of whom is 184 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: mitigating risks. Jack, you don't know how the draft is 185 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: gonna play out, so you want to make sure that. Okay, 186 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: let's make you ringing a veteran who maybe at his 187 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: worse he can be a placeholder. Um, he can be 188 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: a placeholder until maybe drafted, we're able to find a 189 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: guy that unexpectingly falls into our lap, that plays a 190 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: position of need at safety. But if we don't get that, 191 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: we don't have that. If that situation doesn't come to fruition, 192 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: we feel good about the veteran playing and taking over 193 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: and maybe in a one year stop gap at the position. 194 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: So it's really an attempt by Balky and erber Meyer 195 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: to cover their basis when it comes to building a 196 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: team and make sure that they are okay with everything 197 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: that's going on from a personnel standpoint. Podcast rolling along 198 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: looking at some of the reported names that are with 199 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: the Jaguars agreeing to terms via reports, and let's go 200 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: to the defensive line now. And this was the area 201 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: on defense where Urban said he wanted to start things 202 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: and they certainly have done that. Defensive tackle Roy Robertson 203 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: Harris from the Bears, an undrafted player out of U 204 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: TAP in twos sixteen, he was an exclusive rights and 205 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: restricted free agent after eighteen and nineteen, he signed the 206 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: tender both years, went back to Chicago, had shoulder issues 207 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: last year. Then a familiar name, Tyson Alolo, veteran defensive tackle. 208 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: We know him, we love him here in Jacksonville and 209 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: in theory. He probably could have been a lifelong Jaguar, 210 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: but he spent some time in Pittsburgh. He's coming back reportedly, 211 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: and then late Tuesday a report of a trade the 212 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: Jaguars and the Saints, and the Saints will send defensive 213 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: lineman Malcolm Brown over. No word as of this moment 214 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: what the Jaguars move would be, Bucky, But there you go, 215 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: three big defensive names on the group in the defensive line. 216 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: That's a That's an area where Urban and Trent buck 217 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: you really wanted to make an impact. Yeah, we talked 218 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 1: about it Earlier's experience and expertise. Experience in terms of 219 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: veteran players who played a lot of snaps. They understand 220 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: what it should look like, blocking schemes and those things, 221 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: and then expertise understanding how to take techniques and utilize them. 222 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: To give them opportunities to make place. That is really 223 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: the key, and I think it's a common denominated for 224 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: a lot of the moves that have been made. UH 225 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: experienced guys who have been able to dominate or play 226 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: at a high level at various various times throughout their career. 227 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: But maybe they can show the next generation how to prepare, 228 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: how to play, how to kind of become a professional. 229 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: So when Urban gets it going and maybe year two 230 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: or three, they can share some of those veterans and 231 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 1: the young guys are ready to stuff up and take 232 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 1: over the team. I should have seen that Tyson was coming. 233 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: He makes perfect sense in the sense he's played for Colin. 234 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: Colin loved him as a coach. You can't be around 235 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: you can't be around Tyson, and I love him. He's 236 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 1: everything you want the player. I like the fact that 237 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: he's been to Pittsburgh, He's seen how he now knows 238 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: how to win. He's always known how to prepare. He's 239 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 1: the consummer professional. I admit I don't know. I don't 240 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: know if about Malcolm Brown to speak intelligently, but what 241 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: they had to do if they're going to a three four, 242 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 1: which is more and more feels like they are. I 243 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: think we all kind of see that you've got the 244 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: outside edge guys. What they didn't have, which you couldn't 245 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: quite figure out where they're gonna do it, knows do 246 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: they have enough guys to play those big end spots. 247 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: Clearly because of what Bucky will tell you is it 248 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: is not a good draft. Didn't seem like there's any 249 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: sort of quick impact there in the draft. They want 250 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: to have the bodies. They want to be able to 251 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: rotate on the interior. When I say interior, I mean 252 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: big and defensive tackle. They're doing that in free agency. Yeah, 253 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: I think it's the continuation of being able to do that, 254 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: Like they want to get bigger, they want to be dynamic. 255 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: In verse that you think about the Baltimore Ravens defense, 256 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: it was their ability to kind of change change fronts, 257 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 1: change coverage, give a bunch of different presentations to the quarterback. 258 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: With Jackson me. When you look at the personnel and 259 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: I think of it outside in the edge, Rushes, caleban 260 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: Chasing and Josh Allen, they're not really defensive man's. These 261 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: guys are stand up, move around, active, run around linebackers. 262 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,599 Speaker 1: Because you go to a three four there's a possibility 263 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: of being able to get both of those guys on 264 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: the field doing things that they're very, very comfortable doing. 265 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: All right, let's go back on the offensive side of 266 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: the ball, and late on Tuesday, the Jaguars reportedly agree 267 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: to terms with wide receiver Marvin Jones. Four seasons in 268 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: Cincinnati earlier in his career, the last five in Detroit, 269 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: So a veteran receiver. Ear of your Tuesday. Wide receiver 270 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: Philip Dorset, a first round pickback in by the Colts 271 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: out of Miami. He had a foot injury last season, 272 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: didn't play in Indianapolis. And Carlos Hyde, former Jaguars running 273 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: back from eighteen, connections to Urban Meyer, Trent Waalkey, and 274 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: Brian Schottenheimer. Well, looking at those connections and talking about 275 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: how important connections were with Uran Maya the other week, 276 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: it it kind of makes sense. Played here in twenty eighteen. 277 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: As we said, those are the three offensive editions. Some 278 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: special teams editions as well. Rudy Ford special teamer, he 279 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: was a sixth round pick with the Cardinals. Jamal Agnew, 280 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: a return specialist who is first team All Pro punt 281 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: returner back in tweventeen. Those are some bigger names we 282 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: left off a defensive end, jahad Ward from the Ravens 283 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: as well on the defensive side. Those really kind of 284 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: wrap up. Any of those stand out to you, Bucky, 285 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: of those handful, Jamoagen stands out to me because when 286 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: I'm when I'm sensing a team that wants to be 287 00:14:58,240 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: in a position to be able to play a company 288 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: before ball, So run it on offense, build up the defense, 289 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: be a little better, flip the field in the kicking game, 290 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: having returning to get ten your returns, being able to 291 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: really put them in ideal scoring position. I think that's 292 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: how you have to kind of build this out because 293 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: you're going you're going to start a rookie at quarterback, 294 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: so you can't necessarily to count on the offense to 295 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: be their weekend week out. You have to have some 296 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: other vehicles can that can drive the team's success. And 297 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: John the having a veteran wide receiver. You know, the 298 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: last couple of years, Chris Connolly has been around here, 299 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: you guys has been around the league for just a 300 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: little bit. Feels like he may not be back, especially 301 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: when you sign a guy like Marvin Jones who has 302 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: been around the league for nine years. Yeah, you wouldn't think. 303 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: I didn't think that Connelly would be back. Certainly Westbrook, 304 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: you wouldn't think comes back. Its seen about Keeling Cole, 305 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: We'll see um. You know, I'm probably the most curious 306 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: about Philip Dorsett because he's one of these sort of 307 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: untapped potential guys. He can certainly run. I mean when 308 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: Urban talks about when somebody can make an impact there, 309 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: it doesn't seem Bucky like the book has completely been 310 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: written on him. He hasn't lived up to the first 311 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: round the status obviously. Is there something there or is 312 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: this a hail Mary? How would you describe them? You know, 313 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: it's it's tough, right because what you wanna do is 314 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: is when you make these moves and you're trying to 315 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: trying to figure it out, like former first rounder is, 316 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: you always want to kick the tires on them because 317 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: there's a level of talent that someone many teams in 318 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: the league saw. So maybe a change of environment, a 319 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:41,359 Speaker 1: change of scheme, a change of coaches can unlock that potential. 320 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: And so you're willing to take those risks because man, 321 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: former first round picks, man, they tend to hit and 322 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: intended to be a very consensus choice when someone is 323 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: viewed as a first round So you absolutely ower to 324 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: your team and your franchise to kick the tires and 325 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: maybe you feel like you have a program or a 326 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: team or a scheme team that will maximize the players 327 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: talents unlike the previous situation, and we failed to mention 328 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: so far. Chris manners the tight end really a blocking 329 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 1: tight end four point to five million dollars guaranteed reportedly. 330 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: Do you agree with that? So you make a face, 331 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 1: Bucky at the blocking tight end comment. I mean, I 332 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: mean it's not it's not the tight end that we 333 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: were expecting in terms of how we thought they were 334 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: going to utilize it. I mean, both of those guys 335 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: end up going to New England. Yes, there's a there's 336 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: a role for blocking tight end, but let's be honest here. 337 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: Here's what I would say about the tight end. The 338 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: play caller has to know how to feature and maximize 339 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: the tight end in this offense. Uh, Darryl Bill, you 340 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: go back and look at the history. They had Jimmy 341 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: Graham for a little bit in Seattle, but he didn't 342 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: put up the kind of numbers he was putting up 343 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: in New Orleans. And so the danger is, man, you overpay, 344 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 1: you get a big time tight end, but do you 345 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: have the billy call plays to utilize him. And everyone 346 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: doesn't have that club in their bag. And so I 347 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: like the receivers on the outside. I like Marvin Jones 348 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: coming over. Um. I think he really helps him. He's 349 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: not necessarily a one, but he's a one bat ish 350 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,719 Speaker 1: type where he can handle some of the load if 351 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: you need to. So while DJ Charik and the Visca 352 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: and those guys are growing up, I think you have 353 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: a steady, eddy, dependable playmate. The apparently the Eagles have 354 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: given zach ERT's permission to seek a trade. Just we're 355 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 1: on the topic. Just he's coming to We think he's 356 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: coming to Florida. I don't say that. I was just 357 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: bringing up he's a tight end and he is a 358 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: tight end. Yeah, he is a tight end. He probably 359 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: don't want his deal sweeten up a little bit. He's 360 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: just not gonna sign. He's not gonna sign it. He's 361 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 1: gonna say I want to look, I want some more 362 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: cheese on the burger. About that there were a team 363 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: with some caps fake if only we could find it. 364 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: I'm kidding I don't do anything, But how's this JP 365 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: and Bucky for an analogy? And it's probably pretty odds, 366 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: but he guys come in here, you're looking at the 367 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: roster at some point before where you go by the 368 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: prime rib. You've got to get some meat and potatoes 369 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: so you can eat. And they clearly looked at the 370 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: roster this free agency period. To me, they clearly said, look, 371 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: we've got to have some guys so that we can 372 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: line up, and so we can't spend all seventy million 373 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: we have on They couldn't go fifty million and give 374 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: all that cap space to two players. So I think 375 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 1: it shows you something about I get the fans wanted 376 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: a little more, but I think it shows you the 377 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: reality is these guys look at this roster and said, 378 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: we've got to get to a certain level first before 379 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: we try to go to the next level. The guy 380 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: that's gonna put us over the top. I don't put 381 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: words in their mouth, because that's what the first couple 382 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: of days looked like to make makes a lot of sense. 383 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: This is the Huddle Up podcast and season ticket renewals 384 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: are underway. 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Yes, 401 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: the New England paces apps putting themselves in a position 402 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: to maybe uh RE emerges one of the top teams. 403 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: They have spend money like we have never seen the 404 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: Patriots spend money. A lot of veteran players coming over 405 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: uh The deals are eye popping, but they're not necessarily 406 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: jaw dropping. You don't see like the crazy deals. Matt 407 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 1: Junin goes over. They signed Nelson Agilar, They bring in 408 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: a host of other Jalen Smith, Mills, and a bunch 409 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: of other defensive players to help out. I think the 410 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: main thing has been the two tight ends though, Hunter 411 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: Henry and John hu Smith. That's the one that opened 412 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: your eyes, because in the end, you're beginning to think back, 413 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: are they going back to the old Rob Gronkowski late 414 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: Aaron Hernandez situation with the two tight ends that just 415 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: created so many different problems. And oh, by the way, 416 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: they brought Cam Newton back so he can run it 417 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: and he had twelve to rushing touchdowns this season ago, 418 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: Are they gonna just run it with the quarterback and 419 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: just pounded, pounded, pounded, um go old school Patriots. You know, 420 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: you just wonder what are they setting up? But he 421 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick has been in the lab. He didn't like, 422 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: he didn't like that seven and Night. He doesn't like 423 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 1: being some five funch. No tolerance, no tolerance for mediocrity 424 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: over there. No, they will they will spend trying to 425 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: get things right. And John the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Apparently 426 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 1: you are going for two. They're signing everybody. They're bringing 427 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: it on back John this year. Yeah, you wonder, Um, 428 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: I haven't dived deep into what they're doing. You sort 429 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: of wonder. I get why they're doing it, and it's 430 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: what you have to do. You do wonder can you 431 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 1: do it twice? Can you catch lightning in that bottle 432 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: twice with this button? Or will you look back and 433 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: say those older guys finally reached their shelf life and 434 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: it didn't work. Um. Now, now, don't get me wrong, 435 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: the approach they took is the only one to take. 436 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 1: You feel like you've got a team that can win. 437 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: They just showed they could win, So you go forward 438 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: a second time. Nobody would do it differently. You just 439 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: sort of wonder sometimes when you go forward a second 440 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,959 Speaker 1: time and it doesn't work out, or judge more harshly. 441 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 1: That's just that's kind of me throwing it out there. 442 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 1: But you've got to do what they did. You've got 443 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: after the end. They have the scary thing about the Bucks. 444 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: I think Bucky would say this too. They got better 445 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: late in the season, and they looked like they were 446 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: an ascending team, and they looked really good at the 447 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: end of the season, so they may be one of 448 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: those teams he gets hot at the end of the year, 449 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: wins one, and he can give another run next year. Now, 450 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: obviously you don't know how long it's gonna last with 451 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: Brady because's probably only gon to play until he's about 452 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: fifty five, So you've probably only got about ten years 453 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: left with this guy. Well, I mean at some point, 454 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: you said, I mean, at some point he has to 455 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: fall off. Now he was able to in the postseason. 456 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: The defense play lights out, and the defense playing lights 457 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: out really should have overshadowed Tom Brady doing what he 458 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: was able to contribute in the championship game, even in 459 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. But the defense is young and athletic, 460 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: and I give them credit for making sure that they 461 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: took care of their core players from that defense so 462 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: that defense returns. That gives them a shot there right away. 463 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: But I do wonder with all of the toys, and 464 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: the toy Ben and uh Tom continue to add things, 465 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: how do they manage all of this? Because it's one 466 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: thing to make the sacrifice and win it. When now 467 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 1: when you win it, people begin to want credit. Can 468 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: they keep everything? Can you keep the train heading in 469 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: the right direction, because then you see book deals and 470 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: all this other stuff, and it was me, no, not 471 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: that stuff can kind of create a divide in the 472 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: locker room. So I'm curious to see how they handle 473 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 1: that now. They may not have Lombardi Lenny to work 474 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: with next year. Either Lombardi Lenny may make his way 475 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: up to either New England or maybe Seattle. That would 476 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: be interesting to see where Lombardi Lenny ends up. We've 477 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: had some guys this week come back. I don't know 478 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: that Lombardi Landy is coming back. I think he's I 479 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: think he's his time in Jacksonville might be come back. 480 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: Maybe Lombardi Lanny can come back. That would surprise me too. 481 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: Anything's possible. No, it would surprise Bucket though it was 482 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: surprise BUCKBARTI Laney running it back. That would that would 483 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: be that would be a tough one. That would be 484 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: a storyline. That would be a storyline for sure, Lombardi 485 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: Lanny and Carlos Ais and behind James Robson. That that 486 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: would be something else. Huddle Up Podcast. A couple of 487 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: other quick notes around the league. The Tennessee Titans lost 488 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 1: wide receiver Corey Davis and John new Smith the tied end, 489 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: but they gained a Nico Autry and Bud Dupree on defense. 490 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: This week, Drew Brees retired. In New Orleans, Jamis Winston 491 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: signs a one year deal. I guess they'll compete for 492 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 1: the starting gig or they'll just play like they have 493 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: been in the past. Down there was could it could 494 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: be a little bit of anything, could be Jamie has 495 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: taken to couple then Tayson Rose in Spurrier in the 496 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: old days changing plays at quarterback. Was that was? That was? 497 00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 1: That was that war than or that Rex Grossman and 498 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: Terry's I happen to know that because I covered those 499 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 1: two teams. Uh, you have to hit my college football wheelhouse, 500 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: j B. So that's yeah, that would be a little 501 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: much in New Orleans. But who knows. I invented you 502 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: invented Danny. Yeah, I put him on the Class four 503 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:26,959 Speaker 1: A All State team. You're the one, You're the one 504 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: that made him famous. See book Deals. So what you're 505 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: talking about, Bucky like and all of a sudden is 506 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: John's fault. Yeah, there you go. There you go, Jo 507 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: creating the creating those guys down there, down there, Florida. 508 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: Derrick Brooks too, but he went but he would never 509 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: admit that. Dan Warren Sap and Javon Curse apparently too. 510 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: We mentioned that at the pay phone. Yeah, that's right, 511 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: that's right. Let's uh, let's get a couple of social 512 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: questions in before we get out of here today. And 513 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what Tuesday when I put the bat 514 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: signal out. You know, I'm not I'm not allergic to bees, 515 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: but I still don't like getting stung by bees. And 516 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: I also felt like, I mean, it was, it was. 517 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: It was vicious there for a little while, and then 518 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: the Griffin deal apparently was reported, and every everything kind 519 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: of toned down after that. So we've got a mix 520 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: here today. This is from Walker Garena. What's there left 521 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: in the tight end market? I'm worried about the room 522 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 1: that Irvan said we need to reshape, and we missed 523 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 1: on both Henry and Smith. We can't rely on draft 524 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: tight ends and Oliver can't stay healthy thoughts, And I 525 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,479 Speaker 1: think we touched on this Bucky you you know the past, 526 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: looking at the offensive coordinator and a quarterba the passing 527 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: game coordinator as well. Their history with tight ends is 528 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 1: not as robust let's say, as some others. No, it hasn't. 529 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: It hasn't been great, and it it just makes it 530 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: hard to say that, oh, we're gonna invest in the 531 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 1: tight end, because I think it's a unique physition and 532 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: you have to have a plan to create opportunities for 533 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: the tight end to get open. That club hasn't been 534 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: in the bag. It hasn't been in the bag for 535 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: Bevil North Schottenheimer really, and I think I think it's tough. 536 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: And so if you're not going to utilize those guys, 537 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: I would hate to see a tight end well. And 538 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: it's unfortunate because the middle of field is always wide open. 539 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: It's the easiest throw for the young quarterback. I wondered, 540 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: because right now it looks like this offense is going 541 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: to be even though Urban talks about running and physicality 542 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: and toughness, it still seems like all the weapons are 543 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: the little guys on the perimeter. I don't know. The 544 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: Trevor use is not over yet. He did not He 545 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: did not use tighten much to a bunch of a 546 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: bunch of a bunch of a bunch of bunch of 547 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: little fast guys out there running around r p os 548 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: but I mean it's I mean, it's seen a division though, right, 549 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: guys will knock you off. The Colts and the Tennessee Titans, 550 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: they play rocking sock and robot football, so we can 551 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: go out there. I just don't want to go out 552 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: there being too finess. I don't think coach Meyer Wild 553 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: Tyler Finesse. I just don't want to be a little 554 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: fin this team tight end coach from Penn State tight 555 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: end from Penn State. Later, Okay, yeah, I'm just saying. 556 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: I'm just feel like you feel like he's in the 557 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: office every day, Like, hey, coach, I know when you're 558 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: tight in. I've seen one. As we talked about, they're 559 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: not going to get pits. But as we talked about yesterday, 560 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: but that second tier tight end second tears. But that's 561 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: what it sort of feels like. The direction and JP, 562 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: your boy, Josh Oliver, don't sleep on it. Right. He 563 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: just hasn't been healthy. He hasn't been healthy enough. Yeah, 564 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: that's the issue with him. Our next question from No 565 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: Toes down, how's the backup defensive tackle? Had seven tackles 566 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: last season and a return specialist in a league with 567 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: less return opportunities than ever each receiving seven million dollars. 568 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you got you gotta dig deep and you 569 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: gotta figure out how much is real and how much 570 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: it's kind of that that monopoly money that's out there 571 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: you got. I mean you have to dig down. But hey, 572 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: the cap is flat for some, but the TV deal 573 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: is coming and so you have to pay with minimum 574 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: salaries and all this other stuff. Depending on how you 575 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: view them and view their impact, you do what you 576 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: want to win. You want to win the negotiation too, 577 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: because maybe there's another team that's out there, so maybe 578 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: it jacks it up a little bit. You gotta make 579 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: sure you're secure to guy value, right. John Trent certainly 580 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: gave us plenty of hints that this was going to 581 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: be the approach when he spoke at his availabilities. I mean, 582 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: he talked about value value value, and he said we're 583 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,959 Speaker 1: going to spend the cap over a three year period. 584 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: So was that a hint. I don't know, because we 585 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: don't really know. It's hard to know how Urban and 586 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: Trent will approach roster building. It'll be easier next year 587 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: because now we'll have an off season to sort of 588 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: study it. We'll see the actions, will see the results. Clearly, 589 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: like I said, he used a better analogy. They clearly 590 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: looked at this roster and said, we've got to spend 591 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: some money getting back to a certain level where we 592 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: can compete. I don't think they wanted to be in 593 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: a situation the analogy I always used JP as a Sanders. 594 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: A Sanders was a fourth round receiver in two thousand 595 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: thirteen who caught fifty three passes. Well, he was never 596 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: going to be a big time NFL receiver. He had 597 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: to play really quickly. A Sanders had a lot of stats. 598 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: But you didn't want a Sanders starting as a rookie. 599 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: When you were starting a standards as a rookie, you 600 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: were in trouble with that spot. I loved me wrong, 601 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: I love him great, but that's not what you were 602 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: looking for. They clearly this bunch did not want to 603 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: be throwing unready rookies into the fire early for people 604 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: who wanted Trevor Lawrence. And you know, I think there's 605 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: a pretty good chance he'll be the quarterback here next year, Bucky. 606 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: What you didn't want, I don't think they wanted was 607 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: a lot of rookies, only rookies around Trevor. This young, 608 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: inexperienced team and not give him a chance to develop 609 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: as a rookie. So they're bringing in some veterans trying 610 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: to make sure that it's not is Trevor and a 611 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: bunch of kids. So it feels like that's their approach 612 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: is given this once in a lifetime player a chance 613 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: he has something to work with where it's not a 614 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: college team now. So that's that's kind of what it 615 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: feels like. So if you want Trevor, maybe this is 616 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: the price to pay together. How about that? Yeah, I 617 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: think there's something to that. I think if you go 618 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: back and you look at Josh Allen's success once Stefan 619 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: Dix came over, the older receiver that's dependable and trustworthy, 620 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: he's always going to be at the spot that the 621 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: coaches are telling the quarterback where he should be. And 622 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: so that that makes a lot of sense when you 623 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: bring in young guys. You have a young quarterback, young 624 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: pass catches, can you get them on the same page. 625 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: That's why typically when you see the young quarterback take 626 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: a dramatic leap is because he's surrounded by veteran guys 627 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: that he can trust. Justin Herbert being able to be 628 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: an offensive rickety year. Well, you have Keenan Allen and 629 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: Mike Williams, guys who played a little while in the league, 630 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: so you can you can make it happen. And I 631 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: think it is something that we'll have to monitor. The 632 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: other thing will monitor and this will be a conversation 633 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: for next year. How many of these guys that are 634 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: coming in as stop gaps remain with the team longer 635 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: than a year or so. So it'll be interesting when 636 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: the language comes out on all of these deals, how 637 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: many of these deals and how much of the money 638 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: is real compared to inflated money that we know the 639 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: player never see final question here and we'll combine two 640 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: questions to get us out of here, but I think 641 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: they kind of go hand in hand, at least in 642 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: my opinion. One from at B Smith or any theme 643 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: to the free agent signing so far a connection with 644 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: the coaches scheme or age. And the other question is 645 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: from at come fly with Black? Should we bring in 646 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: another veteran who's great for the locker room? And for me, 647 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: I think those kind of can go hand in hand 648 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: because we've seen different connections with different coaches already. On 649 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: the step Carlos hide has a connection with three different 650 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: guys already, right, the GM, the head coach, in the 651 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: in the passing game coordinator, they have a history with him, 652 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: just to name a few. Um some other situation bevels 653 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: brought in the receiver from the Lions. You know, there's 654 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: a lot of that. I'm curious about the locker room 655 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: part though, right because we don't really know what this 656 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: locker room is yet, and they need some older guys. 657 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure Urban would love to have guys who have 658 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 1: been through his you know, who've read the book basically right, 659 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: and and can distribute that idea, that philosophy to the 660 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: locker room where those meats, I think is where we're 661 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: starting to figure out and see in the last day 662 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,839 Speaker 1: or two. Yeah, I think it's interesting, But I think 663 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 1: Urban let the cat out of the bag. It might 664 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: have been in your conversation, either Ja or what one 665 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 1: of the conversations he talked about how it's important for 666 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: the position guys to know the guys that they're bringing 667 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: into the room. He talked about that and that's more 668 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,280 Speaker 1: of a collegiate approach more so than an NFL approach. 669 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: But when you listen to that and then you look 670 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: at how free agency played out, it played out just 671 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: like that. A lot of position coaching coaches grabbing guys 672 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: that they know, grabbing guys that they believe fit into 673 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: the fabric and the new culture that's going to exist 674 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,879 Speaker 1: down in Jacksonville. That happens now. The trick will be 675 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: when you bring these older players in, if you want 676 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: them to lead the younger guys, they better be able 677 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: to play. Because it's one thing to hear the old 678 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: head up their lecturing and talking and preaching, but if 679 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: he can't play, then it falls on deaf ears. And 680 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: so these guys that come in very early in many 681 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: camp or o t s, you need to be able 682 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: to see their talent flash so they can get the 683 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,919 Speaker 1: respect of the young guys. If they don't, then it's 684 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: it's just another just anohing. You saw the couple you 685 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: saw a few years ago. We don't want to go back, 686 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: but we saw it a few years ago seventeen. It 687 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: was great. Saxonville, Jaden Ramsey and those guys. They're tough on. 688 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: They were tough on those those older players, Like I mean, 689 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: I hear you, but when I look at the stat sheet, 690 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: it's different. Yeah, that was we're looking ahead of that. 691 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: Can we're moving forward on the past, John, I have 692 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: nothing bad on that front because Bucky said it best. 693 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,359 Speaker 1: That's fair enough. Okay, they have it. Thanks for the 694 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 1: social media questions and plenty of comments today too. There's 695 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,439 Speaker 1: a little lot going on around Jaguars Twitter the last 696 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 1: couple of days. Hopefully things will continue to move in 697 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: the right direction. A lot of new names reported to 698 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,879 Speaker 1: the Jaguars, so stay tuned to a Jags social media 699 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 1: four o'clock. Free agency opens Wednesday. That's when the team 700 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 1: can officially started bouncing deals and we can officially start 701 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: well talking about them. Officially the official word is the 702 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: key word there. Of course, it feels like a lot 703 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: of it's already done, but it's all still reported and 704 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 1: it's the negotiation window. Bucky, what do you have on 705 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: the network coming up? I'm sure yeah, free agency, we 706 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,399 Speaker 1: have Pro days, We have all kinds of a little 707 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: fun stuff um coming up. I think I have George's 708 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: Pro Day to marrow, so we get a chance to 709 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,399 Speaker 1: see a couple of playmakers kind of come through, and 710 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: I think we have some more pro days coming out. 711 00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to coverage but tomorrow 712 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: I got George's pro day. How what has been the 713 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: best performance of the last week on a pro day 714 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 1: you've been on, Well, it has to be the quarterback 715 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 1: trade Lands. I think Trey Lands just kind of opening 716 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 1: up and showing people the athleticism and the talent. He 717 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 1: misses throws and he does those things. But I think 718 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: when you look at him and you see him, you say, oh, yeah, 719 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: that's that's what a quarterback should look like. I think 720 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: the one that everyone is excited about. Had a chance 721 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:27,879 Speaker 1: to talk to John Beck, who is training ironically Zack 722 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 1: Wilson and Justin Fields at the same time at the 723 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,359 Speaker 1: same place. Good insight on both of those quarterbacks. Talked 724 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 1: about both of them being very, very competitive. I talked 725 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 1: about Zack Wilson's competitiveness in terms of just wanted to 726 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 1: be better. They've worked thegether for about three years and 727 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 1: those things, trying to live up to the b y 728 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: U quarterback tradition, which is a big deal. And then 729 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 1: he just talked about Justin Fields and the competitiveness and 730 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 1: how professional he has been early in the last one 731 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 1: out baseball background being big he didn't necessarily know, and 732 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: so good good on both of them. Doesn't mean a 733 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 1: lot for us because we're off that we're not shopping. 734 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: We're not shopping on those racks, but it'd be nice 735 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: for others in the league. It'll be great for the Jets. 736 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: They'll enjoy that conversation. Yeah, Johnny, Oh what do you 737 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,760 Speaker 1: have coming up? Well? Uh, as you know, Jp, everything 738 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 1: that we're doing will be contingent on then getting these 739 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 1: guys signed. And I anticipate Thursday and Friday a lot 740 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: of a lot of free agents talk to the guys. 741 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: I am looking forward. Oh, admit I was soft spotting 742 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 1: my heart for Tyson. I look forward to talking to 743 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,760 Speaker 1: him again. I miss him. He's one of my favorite 744 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 1: Jaguars players ever, so for me at the home run 745 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 1: and I was forward to, uh talking to Tyson Ala well. 746 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: Obviously have coverage of all the guys up on Jaguars 747 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,760 Speaker 1: dot com. So it was good. Busy week ahead. Bucky 748 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 1: will talk to you again next week, sure, Bucky Brooks 749 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: out of here. John, We'll talk to you again later today, 750 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 1: most likely because we're in the building together. Remember to 751 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: subscribe to the Official Jaguars podcast Network. 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