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Speaker 1: Happy Monday. This is Trump VP choice week. We have
Speaker 1: every angle of that covered. We have a lot more
Speaker 1: fallout from what happened in Dallas, a lot of shooting
Speaker 1: incidents at police stations around the country over the weekend. Sadly,
Speaker 1: we will update you on that front. We have more
Speaker 1: fallout from Hillary Clinton, the liar and proven liar above
Speaker 1: the law, and we'll hit that in the course of
Speaker 1: the program today. UM, I want to start with where
Speaker 1: we are in the VP stakes. Probably by Thursday or
Speaker 1: Friday this week, Donald hump will announce who his vice
Speaker 1: presidential selection happens to be. And I know everybody has
Speaker 1: strong feelings about it, and uh, you know, I have
Speaker 1: already said who I think would be the best person
Speaker 1: for the job, and I think that would be New
Speaker 1: king Ridge. Among the names that we are hearing are
Speaker 1: New king Rich and Mike Pence and Chris Christie and
Speaker 1: Joni Ernst and you know what, General what's his name,
Speaker 1: General Flynn. I don't think that's the way to go,
Speaker 1: but well, you know, look, everyone's got their own feelings
Speaker 1: choices about it. But I want to lay out the
Speaker 1: reason why I think from my perspective that I think
Speaker 1: that Donald Trump would be wise to pick New king Ridge.
Speaker 1: Some he said, well, nuts old all nuts. You know,
Speaker 1: that's think back. Has there been any other political figure
Speaker 1: that has transformed washing did like Nu Gingrich did since
Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan? Now we can talk about Donald Trump's agenda.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump has a bold, transformative agenda. He's gonna have
Speaker 1: to get this agenda through Congress, and he already has
Speaker 1: a hostile speaker and Paul Ryan if he remains speaker,
Speaker 1: assuming that they hold onto the House, and has a
Speaker 1: hostile Senate majority leader and Mitch McConnell. They have not
Speaker 1: exactly been the most supportive people. The conditions aren't exactly
Speaker 1: perfect for for Donald Trump. And I don't know what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen. But if he wants to build the wall,
Speaker 1: if he wants to deal with immigrants from countries to
Speaker 1: practice shar real law. If Donald Trump wants to transform
Speaker 1: the v A, build up our nation's military, and spend
Speaker 1: the money that it's gonna take, and yet move towards
Speaker 1: a balanced budget and cut spending, and many maybe adopt
Speaker 1: the Penny Plan, which he's talked about. If he wants
Speaker 1: to get rid of healthcare savings accounts, if he wants
Speaker 1: to appoint these conservative justices whose names he's given us.
Speaker 1: If he wants to expand coal mining and oil production
Speaker 1: and fracking and nuclear power plants and all the above,
Speaker 1: that's gonna take a lot of support from members of Congress.
Speaker 1: If he wants to send education back to the States,
Speaker 1: which he does, that's gonna take a lot as well.
Speaker 1: So the reason I picked nude as many fold let
Speaker 1: me give you a few of them, is I remember
Speaker 1: I was there. I was the MC the night that
Speaker 1: new Gingrich became the Speaker of the House. I was
Speaker 1: in George was at the Cobb Galleria and Georgia. I
Speaker 1: was the m C. I ended up losing my voice
Speaker 1: that night. I was on a radio like that the
Speaker 1: next day and welcome to the program. You know, it
Speaker 1: was a pretty bad day the next day. I remember
Speaker 1: it well. But more importantly was the first time Republicans
Speaker 1: took control of Congress in forty years. And there was
Speaker 1: a foundation that New Gingrich himself had laid out, and
Speaker 1: that was the Renewing Civil Renewing of American Civilization tapes.
Speaker 1: And what it did was, for the first time, it
Speaker 1: actually set forth a positive agenda that that was conservative,
Speaker 1: that broke away from this traditional way of doing politics.
Speaker 1: And as a result, he was able to put together
Speaker 1: a winning coalition first time in forty years. And then
Speaker 1: his speaker, he did a couple of other things. He
Speaker 1: was able to to balance a budget, he created a surplus.
Speaker 1: He made promises. They were called the Contract with America.
Speaker 1: He promised. The promise was they would vote on those
Speaker 1: ten items in the first hundred days if they became,
Speaker 1: if they got power, if the American people gave them power,
Speaker 1: this is what we'll do. And with one exception, they've
Speaker 1: been able to maintain power for most of the years since,
Speaker 1: with a couple of hiccup years in there, and America
Speaker 1: was better off now. Um, nobody in politics today, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, and it's one of the reasons that he's
Speaker 1: a regular guest on this program. Nobody commands attention the
Speaker 1: way new Gingrich does when he speaks. Now, I think
Speaker 1: he's the smartest political strategist in the country. Since the
Speaker 1: years in which he has been Speaker, I've known him
Speaker 1: personally and know how he spent his life. He's been
Speaker 1: traveling the world. He gives speeches, and he spends every
Speaker 1: spare moment that he has reading. I've never met anybody
Speaker 1: that had such an insatiable appetite for growing their intellect
Speaker 1: and a curiosity like new ing Rich has so. In
Speaker 1: other words, for maybe for those of you that say,
Speaker 1: well he's older, young people don't know what he's done. Well.
Speaker 1: In the course of the campaign between this week in November,
Speaker 1: they will learn about what the contract with America was about.
Speaker 1: They'll learn about how he's the last speaker to give
Speaker 1: us a balanced budget and a surplus. They'll learn about
Speaker 1: transformation changes that they made to Washington. They'll learn about
Speaker 1: welfare reform and some of the other important items that
Speaker 1: were very successful and also contributed to the success in
Speaker 1: getting our budget in balance and restraining government spending. Now
Speaker 1: that's just one thing, you know. I think one problem
Speaker 1: that Donald Trump currently has is the base of the party.
Speaker 1: Not only is he dealing with establishment Republicans in Washington,
Speaker 1: but for whatever reason, and it was a pretty contentious
Speaker 1: primary season. If you look at the polls, only seventy
Speaker 1: percent of the base, meaning Republicans, say that they're gonna
Speaker 1: vote for Donald Trump. He needs to increase that number. Historically,
Speaker 1: you want a candidate to get at least and I
Speaker 1: think ging Rich the ing Ridge is one of those
Speaker 1: people that is so well liked and such a national
Speaker 1: figure that he will be able to move that needle.
Speaker 1: And I would suspect that the sent of Republican number
Speaker 1: would go up to if he was put on the
Speaker 1: ticket as a vice president. I can't think of any
Speaker 1: of the other people who are named, by the way,
Speaker 1: they're all good people, General Flynt, Mike Pence, uh, Joanie
Speaker 1: Ernst and and any of the other names. Chris Christie
Speaker 1: I don't think would be good because he's a Northeastern
Speaker 1: liberal in a lot of ways, and he's had his
Speaker 1: own problems with the legislature in in Trenton in New Jersey,
Speaker 1: and I think he'd have a hard time transforming this
Speaker 1: in a way that would be successful for him. And
Speaker 1: you know, how is he going to play in the South.
Speaker 1: They didn't play that well in a in a primary
Speaker 1: matchup against Trump. So I think that Trump needs a
Speaker 1: number of things here. I think Knew would bring with
Speaker 1: him his intellect, he'd bring his strategy side with him.
Speaker 1: I don't think he'd have a better strategist then in
Speaker 1: New king Rich in terms of strategizing against the Clintons,
Speaker 1: He's done it before going into November. I also think
Speaker 1: that new would bring back a lot of the Bay
Speaker 1: that has been hesitant to jump on board with Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: And you need that base if you want to win
Speaker 1: the election. Also, I think there's nobody that commands attention
Speaker 1: when speaking the New Kingridge does. For those people that
Speaker 1: don't know Newt, you're gonna hear him speak for the
Speaker 1: first time. You'll watch him give a speech, and I
Speaker 1: would imagine even the most liberal person is going to
Speaker 1: say that guy is really smart. That background is you
Speaker 1: know that he commands attention when he speaks, He really does.
Speaker 1: And if you're gonna if you're looking in a vice
Speaker 1: president somebody that can grab attention and prosecute the case
Speaker 1: against Hillary Clinton. Of all the names that are mentioned,
Speaker 1: I can't think of anybody better than New Kingridge that
Speaker 1: is gonna prosecute that case which is strong against her
Speaker 1: and lay it out in a way the people will say, amen, yeah,
Speaker 1: we agree. And on the other hand end you need
Speaker 1: a vice presidential candidate who's going to be able to
Speaker 1: lay out the case for the person at the top
Speaker 1: of the ticket. And I don't think that there's anybody
Speaker 1: that can lay out the case the agenda that Trump
Speaker 1: has put forth articulate that case, that message, which I
Speaker 1: think for the most part, New supports the amount of
Speaker 1: differences here and there, but for the most party supports
Speaker 1: the New king Rich. I also think that, you know,
Speaker 1: at some point, if Donald Trump becomes president, there's going
Speaker 1: to be a moment. In other words, there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a time, and this is for any president when something
Speaker 1: serious is gonna have to be dealt with. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: financial related, maybe it's an internationally you know, maybe it's
Speaker 1: a a nine eleven God forbid moment. Maybe it's a
Speaker 1: Pearl Harbor God forbid moment. Maybe it's a financial crisis,
Speaker 1: God forbid moment. Maybe it's a stock market crash moment.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. But Donald Trump or
Speaker 1: any president is gonna need somebody that's bright and smart
Speaker 1: that can help them navigate through those troubled times. So
Speaker 1: the question is who would be best sitting in that
Speaker 1: room with you that you want to turn to and
Speaker 1: get counsel and advice. Another issue is who do you
Speaker 1: want debating in that one vice presidential debate that you
Speaker 1: know will decimate any Democrat? Who's gonna be the best
Speaker 1: campaign strategist, your best advocate both advocating for you and
Speaker 1: prosecuting against Hillary. In other words, I think that probably
Speaker 1: New is the best person that can help. And then
Speaker 1: when you if you get elected, then you've got to govern.
Speaker 1: So we have a group of Republicans led by a
Speaker 1: hostile speaker and Paul Ryan towards Donald Trump, and a
Speaker 1: hostile Senate majority leader and Mitch McConnell uh again against
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Who is going to be able to command
Speaker 1: their attention? And of all the names mentioned, I can't
Speaker 1: think of anybody better than New King Rich And I
Speaker 1: think if you Donald Trump wants to govern successfully, if
Speaker 1: he wants to get the agenda that I just mentioned past, well,
Speaker 1: then I think that that Newts the guy that can
Speaker 1: can help him accomplish that. That's not not a small endeavor. Um.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I know that it seems I
Speaker 1: think it was on one of was on Breitbart, or
Speaker 1: maybe it was on World net Daily today that Trump
Speaker 1: Trump spokesperson leaking that it's gonna be Pence. I've known
Speaker 1: Mike Pence for years. I think he's a great governor
Speaker 1: of Indiana, pretty strong conservative. I think that if Pence
Speaker 1: is picked, and I'm gonna I'm just being blunt and
Speaker 1: honest here, I don't think he will prosecute the case
Speaker 1: as effectively as new could. I don't think he's as
Speaker 1: good a political strategists as Newt is. I don't think
Speaker 1: he would advocate his well for Trump as new can.
Speaker 1: And I think probably it would be perceived as a
Speaker 1: safe choice, a more boring, more vanilla choice. And I
Speaker 1: wonder too, I don't know, is he willing to go
Speaker 1: up against Paul Ryan and bang on the table and
Speaker 1: try and force Paul Ryan to do things that maybe
Speaker 1: Paul Ryan doesn't have the stomach to do. Is he
Speaker 1: willing to do the same thing to Mitch McConnell. Does
Speaker 1: he have the ability to command attention when speaking? You know,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump's campaign has been bold the entire time. Saving
Speaker 1: the country is gonna be far more difficult than beating
Speaker 1: sixteen other candidates in a primary or beating Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 1: If you can beat Hillary and get the White House
Speaker 1: and you have Republicans and you want to get this
Speaker 1: agenda passed so you can create a legacy of success
Speaker 1: that yes, Washington can be governed successfully again, then I
Speaker 1: can't think of a better part partner for Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: The New Gingrich. I know a lot of you probably
Speaker 1: have different views. I see somebody appear that wants Penned,
Speaker 1: somebody else wants Jeff Sessions. I Jeff Sessions is a
Speaker 1: great guy. I don't think he's the force of New Gingrich.
Speaker 1: Though Pence is a great guy. I think that, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just I just don't know if he has that
Speaker 1: ability to transform the country the way New Gingrich would.
Speaker 1: And that's the one thing that I think Trump and
Speaker 1: newt have in common. They If Trump governs the way
Speaker 1: he has promised, he will be transformative in terms of
Speaker 1: what he would do and accomplish for the presidency. If
Speaker 1: Newt is able to accomplish like he has in the past,
Speaker 1: the things that he was able to accomplish, that's transformative
Speaker 1: for the country. I don't think it's time for half measures.
Speaker 1: When Trump talks about building the wall, I want the
Speaker 1: wall built. When Trump talks building up the military, it
Speaker 1: needs it desperately. When he talks about balancing a budget,
Speaker 1: I want the balance. I want to balance budget. When
Speaker 1: he talks about healthcare savings accounts, we need to get
Speaker 1: rid of Obamacare. When he talks about all the jobs
Speaker 1: and energy independence and how energy independence is good for
Speaker 1: national security and job creation and expanding coal and drilling
Speaker 1: and fracking and nuclear technology, it's important for our safety
Speaker 1: security and the jobs that will be created will be
Speaker 1: high paying jobs that will last for decades. Education belongs
Speaker 1: back in the States. The v A deserves to be fixed.
Speaker 1: It's a pretty bold agenda. You're gonna need somebody that's
Speaker 1: strong and powerful to help you accomplish it. Newt's the
Speaker 1: only guy, after looking at the list of people that
Speaker 1: are available, that I would pick that could accomplish that.
Speaker 1: I'll take your calls on it. If you want to
Speaker 1: weigh in one, Shawn. You know, for example, I like
Speaker 1: Lieutenant General Flynn, great guy. It's a lifelong democrat, sympathetic
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Speaker 1: trial and audio book were following a story. Now over
Speaker 1: the weekend, um, we had a number of incidents occur
Speaker 1: again with police officers more protesting on Friday night Saturday night,
Speaker 1: but for the second time and uh well now the
Speaker 1: third time in three days since Dallas, we've had a
Speaker 1: mass shooting attack on the police. Over the weekend. There
Speaker 1: were shots fired and gunfire hit the San Antonio Police headquarters,
Speaker 1: leaving bullet marks on the building, building in shellcasings in
Speaker 1: a nearby alley. San Antonio police still investigating reports of
Speaker 1: a suspect scene fleeing from that alley. And so that
Speaker 1: happened on Saturday night. And also coming on the heels
Speaker 1: of that, we have the Chicago Tribune making a report
Speaker 1: that a person of interest is now in custody after
Speaker 1: shots were fired at police on the far South Side
Speaker 1: on early Sunday. Someone fired at three am shots of
Speaker 1: police officers responding to a shots fired call on the
Speaker 1: East Side neighborhood. I brought this up last week. Three thousand,
Speaker 1: four d and fifty nine Chicago residents killed since Obama
Speaker 1: became president, but he only spoke out about that what
Speaker 1: nine times. Now, we've got some news today of a
Speaker 1: shooting that took place in St. Joseph, Michigan, where four
Speaker 1: people were shot at a courthouse today and one of
Speaker 1: them appears to be an officer. Conditions not currently known.
Speaker 1: Three people, well, here we go, this just came in.
Speaker 1: Three people are dead now in this shooting. Uh and
Speaker 1: an employee at the according to an employee at the
Speaker 1: County Prosecutor's office, and three of the dead people. One
Speaker 1: person is injured. And Michigan State Police confirmed the shooting
Speaker 1: just moments ago. Two of the people dead our court bailiffs.
Speaker 1: And there was one report it's a local report. I
Speaker 1: and confirmed this part of it that they might have
Speaker 1: actually taken over the gun from one of the officers there.
Speaker 1: There's an officer down too. We don't know if the
Speaker 1: officer is one of the three people now being reported
Speaker 1: killed in this particular incident. It's unbelievable anyway. So that
Speaker 1: happened at the Burying County Sheriff courthouse or the Burying
Speaker 1: County courthouse. The sheriff is still dealing with an act
Speaker 1: of shooting situation there and that happened just this afternoon.
Speaker 1: So the war on police now continues. By the way,
Speaker 1: the President will go down to Dallas tomorrow. The President
Speaker 1: spoke out again like he had done in Cambridge, with
Speaker 1: the Cambridge police incident, the Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman incident,
Speaker 1: the Ferguson incident, Michael Brown, and and of course the
Speaker 1: Baltimore incident with violence, the Freddie Gray case. And the
Speaker 1: President spoke out on foreign soil three hours before this
Speaker 1: latest event took place. It's so reckless and it's so
Speaker 1: irresponsible for this president to keep talking about things that
Speaker 1: he knows nothing about, and he's supposed to be a
Speaker 1: constitutional attorney, actually said two days after this Dallas shooter
Speaker 1: told police he wanted to kill white people, especially white cops.
Speaker 1: Obama said to reporters that the motive behind the shooting
Speaker 1: was unclear. I'm wondering if you could help us understand
Speaker 1: how you describe his motives. Do you consider this an
Speaker 1: act of domestic terrorism? Was this a hate crime? Was
Speaker 1: this a mentally ill man with a gun? Um? How
Speaker 1: should Americans understand why that happened? I think it's it's
Speaker 1: very hard to untangle the motives of this year as
Speaker 1: we've seen h and a whole range of incidents with
Speaker 1: mass shooters. Um, they are by definition troubled. By definition,
Speaker 1: if you shoot people who pose no threat to you strangers,
Speaker 1: you have a troubled mind. Okay, it's unclear he wants
Speaker 1: to kill white people and he wants to kill white cops.
Speaker 1: But it's unclear what his motive is, and he was
Speaker 1: a radical. Good grief, Um, Hillary says, pretty much white
Speaker 1: America to blame. I'm gonna be talking with white people.
Speaker 1: I think we're the ones that have to start listening
Speaker 1: to the legitimate cries that are coming from our African
Speaker 1: American fellow citizens. They guess there are still racist people
Speaker 1: in this country, but they are a tiny minority of people.
Speaker 1: And there's white on black racism and black on white racism,
Speaker 1: and it exists, but it is shunned by most civil society,
Speaker 1: the majority of society. Minnesota police chief says anti cop
Speaker 1: protesters have now turned into criminals. Obama won't even look
Speaker 1: at the hate crime statue. Can you imagine if it
Speaker 1: was a white person saying he wanted to kill black
Speaker 1: people and black cops, and and liberals not saying that
Speaker 1: this is a hate crime. They are the ones who
Speaker 1: likely to do that. Heather McDonald has a new book out,
Speaker 1: but anyway, she points out, statistically speaking, after looking at
Speaker 1: the FBI data, the blacks are more likely to kill
Speaker 1: cops than to be killed by cops. No one ever
Speaker 1: talks about that side of the equation. Black and Hispanic
Speaker 1: police officers are more likely to fire a gun of
Speaker 1: blacks than white officers is according to a Department of
Speaker 1: Justice report in about the Philly Police Department. Further confirmed
Speaker 1: that by a study conducted by the University of Pennsylvania
Speaker 1: criminologists Greg ridgeway In that determined black cops with three
Speaker 1: point three times more likely to fire a gun than
Speaker 1: other crops cops at a crime seat. It gets ridiculous
Speaker 1: the way we demographically break everything down. And there's an
Speaker 1: apiece story about how militants are being are directing people
Speaker 1: and inspiring people to do this. I'll give you another
Speaker 1: example of all of this. You got former New York
Speaker 1: City Mayor Rudy Julianni is under fire for saying the
Speaker 1: black Lives Matter movement. He said, when you say black
Speaker 1: lives matter, that's inherently racist. Sir, you said that the
Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter movement has put a target on the
Speaker 1: back of police officers. When members of the African American
Speaker 1: community see videos as they have this week, they feel
Speaker 1: like there is a target on young black man. Uh,
Speaker 1: explain your response about how they put a target on
Speaker 1: on police officers. How that can match up when people
Speaker 1: see these videos, Well, when they talk about killing police officers,
Speaker 1: but they don't they sink, they sink raps along about
Speaker 1: killing police officers, and they talk about killing police officers,
Speaker 1: and they yell at out at the rallies and the
Speaker 1: police offices. Mr Mayor, but Mr Mayor with please please
Speaker 1: let me finish. And when and when you say black
Speaker 1: lives matter, that's inherently racist. Well, I think there are
Speaker 1: lives matter, White lives matter, Asian lives matter. His span
Speaker 1: of lives matter. That's anti American, and it's racist. Of course,
Speaker 1: black lives matter, and they matter greatly. But when you
Speaker 1: focus in on one percent of less than one percent
Speaker 1: of the murder that's going on in America, and you
Speaker 1: make it a national thing, and all of you in
Speaker 1: the media make it much bigger than the black kid
Speaker 1: who's getting killed in Chicago every fourteen hours. You create
Speaker 1: a disproportioned The police understand it, and it puts the
Speaker 1: target on their back. Every cop in America will tell
Speaker 1: you that if you ask him. All right, maryor Giuliani,
Speaker 1: thanks so much for being with this. The Black Lives
Speaker 1: Matter group, you know, the group that got invited to
Speaker 1: the White House chanting pigs in a blanket. Fry him
Speaker 1: like bacon. What's wrong with these reporters? Who is that
Speaker 1: CBS reporter? What an idiot? Where is he living? People? Oh,
Speaker 1: they don't say these and yes they do. Former Philly
Speaker 1: Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey said this this weekend that America
Speaker 1: is sitting on a powder keg and made outcry over
Speaker 1: these police shootings. But Rudy's point is my point from
Speaker 1: last week. You have three thousand, four nine Chicago residents killed,
Speaker 1: thousands more injured in shootings, and Obama's mentioned at nine times,
Speaker 1: but it's it's a high profile racial shooting or perceived
Speaker 1: racial shooting. Boy, Obama's all over the cops, but he's
Speaker 1: not addressing the majority, the overwhelming, vast majority. If you
Speaker 1: care about black lives and all lives, these kids that
Speaker 1: are getting killed, he doesn't talk about it. Why not
Speaker 1: now we have every police agency in the country on
Speaker 1: guard now that we've got this ongoing shooting happening here
Speaker 1: Arab social media gloating over the cops murders in Dallas.
Speaker 1: It was another thing that came out. Heather McDonald wrote
Speaker 1: a piece to Ferguson effect is destroying Chicago. It is,
Speaker 1: It absolutely is. It's unbelievable. And by the way, for
Speaker 1: those of you say all Rudy Giuliani's racist, he looked
Speaker 1: at a two thousand, five four hundred number of murders
Speaker 1: in New York City when he became mayor and he said,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna save these lives. And so what he did
Speaker 1: is he moved police focus into the neighborhoods where most
Speaker 1: of the crime was happening, and as a result, that
Speaker 1: number dropped, you know, to about three murders a year
Speaker 1: after it was continued by Michael Bloomberg stopping frisk, which
Speaker 1: now is going away, and the murder rate New York
Speaker 1: is going right back up again. Pretty unbelievable. By the way.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump said today in a major speech in Virginia
Speaker 1: Virginia Beach that he told the crowd, I am the
Speaker 1: law in order candidate, and it went over really well,
Speaker 1: really really well. So that happened today also. Now I
Speaker 1: gotta tell you some things here. You know, there's so
Speaker 1: much going on on so many different levels, not the
Speaker 1: least of which is all of this stuff. You have
Speaker 1: this event that happens in Dallas, you have this event
Speaker 1: unfolding now in Michigan, you have San Antonio, you have
Speaker 1: you know, all these other cities that are now experiencing
Speaker 1: violence against police. You know. The President makes the comments
Speaker 1: at a press conference in Warsaw, Poland, where he issued
Speaker 1: another call for gun control in the wake of this.
Speaker 1: Micah Johnson. By definition, if you shoot people who pose
Speaker 1: no threat, you have a troubled mind, he said. The
Speaker 1: problem with what Obama is saying. The black police chief
Speaker 1: of Dallas, David Brown, said that the killer himself wanted
Speaker 1: a gun down white people and white officers. His motives
Speaker 1: were not very hard to untangle here now for the
Speaker 1: double standard member Dylan Ruth racist gun down innocent people
Speaker 1: at a black church in Charleston. Obama then had no hesitation.
Speaker 1: And by the way, he was right. He didn't have
Speaker 1: a hard time untangling and identifying the racist motives of
Speaker 1: the killer. He said, the fact that this took place
Speaker 1: in a black church obviously also raises questions about a
Speaker 1: dark part of our history. There's not the time that
Speaker 1: black churches have been attacked. Why is he so unwilling
Speaker 1: to say speak the obvious here? You see what a
Speaker 1: black declares he's gonna kill whites, and he does so,
Speaker 1: and the motives are impossible for Obama untangled. A white
Speaker 1: declares that he's gonna kill blacks and does so. The
Speaker 1: motives are obvious and taken in phace value. It's a
Speaker 1: game this president place. He's upset at all the high
Speaker 1: profile cases Cambridge police, Trayvon Martin, that could have been
Speaker 1: me thirty five years ago. That could have been my
Speaker 1: son Ferguson, you know, jumps in weighs in before Black Eye.
Speaker 1: Witnesses pointed out that, yeah, Michael Brown fought for a
Speaker 1: police officer's gun, charged at a police officer, and he
Speaker 1: after he had robbed the convenience store and bully the clerk.
Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal put things in perspective. It said, in
Speaker 1: chief Brown and many like him law enforcement don't think
Speaker 1: they get much support. It's because as they don't until
Speaker 1: after the cops are dead. Then has always come the
Speaker 1: official condolences. Wow. Anyway, The editorial goes on to say
Speaker 1: instead most instead, what most people here most of the
Speaker 1: time from group like groups like Black Lives Matter or
Speaker 1: Al Sharpton is inflammatory rhetoric that the storts reality and
Speaker 1: indiscriminately demonizes the police. Well, I say Obama is guilty
Speaker 1: of this when he rushed to judgment in Cambridge and
Speaker 1: in Ferguson, and in the Freddie Gray case and in
Speaker 1: the Trayvon Martin case. I think he's as guilty as
Speaker 1: of this as anybody. And they even said Obama said
Speaker 1: it's possible to express support for the police while also
Speaker 1: saying there are problems all across our criminal justice system.
Speaker 1: And Obama brings Black Lives Matters the same group chanting
Speaker 1: pigs in a blanket, fry him like bacon to the
Speaker 1: White House. You know, this belief promoted by Black Lives Matter,
Speaker 1: which is American twenty six, is the same place as
Speaker 1: Jim Crow South is a lie. That doesn't mean there
Speaker 1: aren't individual cops that are racist, or even that blacks
Speaker 1: because they're black face challenges and obstacles and maybe suspicion
Speaker 1: that other people don't face but that's that's all. I'm
Speaker 1: not disputing that there are people like that and I
Speaker 1: that would bother me. But Black Lives Matter is not
Speaker 1: the answer. They only make things worse because they're advancing
Speaker 1: narrative is killing cops and Hillary wants their endorsement. New
Speaker 1: York Times reported a new study that says, when it
Speaker 1: comes to the most lethal form of force police shootings,
Speaker 1: there is no racial bias. Quote. It's the most surprising
Speaker 1: result of my career, said Roland Friar, Jr. The author
Speaker 1: of the study, professor of economics at HAVID and the
Speaker 1: youngest African American to receive tenure at Harvard. To study
Speaker 1: examined more than a thousand shootings and ten major police
Speaker 1: departments Texas, Florida, California, and according to The Times, the
Speaker 1: results contradict the mental image of police shootings that many
Speaker 1: Americans hold in the wake of the killings, some captured
Speaker 1: on video Michael Brown Uhla, Queen McDonald does in Chicago,
Speaker 1: Tamir Rice in Cleveland, Walter Scott and South Carolina, Samuel
Speaker 1: Debo deposed in in Cincinnati, Alton Sterling and Baton Rouge,
Speaker 1: and this guy in Minnesota. The study confirms that black
Speaker 1: men and women are treated differently in the hands of
Speaker 1: law enforcement. They're more likely to be touched, handcuffed, pushed
Speaker 1: to the ground, pepper sprayed, even after accounting for and
Speaker 1: how and why and where the encounter with the police is.
Speaker 1: But again on police shooting, there's no evidence of racial bias,
Speaker 1: so saith an African American professor from Harvard. So Mayor
Speaker 1: Julianni who's probably saved more black lives by being the
Speaker 1: mayor of New York than would have happened. So many
Speaker 1: people would have died if we can continued on that path.
Speaker 1: So he says they're racist, Black lives matters. Well, why
Speaker 1: are they saying pigs in a blanket, p I am
Speaker 1: like bacon? Why are they invited to the White House?
Speaker 1: Why is Hillary and Bernie seeking their endorsement? Grief unbelievable.
Speaker 1: You've endorsed the presumptive Republican nominee, Donald Trump. But from
Speaker 1: reading your book, you have an awful lot to say
Speaker 1: in here about candidates trashing the so called Republican establishment
Speaker 1: and saying incendiary things just to get a rise out
Speaker 1: of voters, not thinking about the long game and not
Speaker 1: thinking about winning the general election. Uh, no respect for
Speaker 1: process and responsible deliberation of serious issues. Um, you'll have
Speaker 1: to forgive me, but it sounds an awful lot to me.
Speaker 1: Like you're talking about Donald Trump. Am I wrong? Well,
Speaker 1: here's the deal. You know he wanted square right, he
Speaker 1: got the most votes. It's no secret that he's struggling. Uh,
Speaker 1: as you and are talking today, we just saw his
Speaker 1: latest financial report and you know there's not much money
Speaker 1: in there. And um, so you know he's earned the nomination,
Speaker 1: but in order to be elected president, he needs to
Speaker 1: pivot and start acting presidential. You know, for example, there's
Speaker 1: nothing nothing wrong with using the script most candidates use
Speaker 1: for president us. The script is how you remember everything
Speaker 1: you want to say. And um, I think just kind
Speaker 1: of going from rally to rally and winging it is
Speaker 1: may have worked in the primary, but he's not going
Speaker 1: to work in the general. So I've endorsed him because
Speaker 1: he's he's earned the nomination, but he needs to, um,
Speaker 1: start acting like a serious candidate for president if he
Speaker 1: wants to win the election. All right, glad you with us?
Speaker 1: Our to Sean Hannity's show. That was Mitch McConnell in
Speaker 1: late June talking about the candidacy of Donald Trump. This
Speaker 1: is the week Trump will announce his VP S election
Speaker 1: where I'm VP Alert Watch and joining us as the
Speaker 1: chairman of the Republican National Committee. And that's Ryan's previous
Speaker 1: One of the things that has annoyed me more than
Speaker 1: anything else. So people like McConnell and Paul Ryan not
Speaker 1: being supportive of the nominee to the point where they
Speaker 1: seem more hostile to Donald Trump than they've ever been
Speaker 1: to Obama or Hillary. Well, I can tell you this
Speaker 1: past week was a good week for the relationship of
Speaker 1: Paul and Donald Trump. They actually had a very good
Speaker 1: day together on the Hill and I know that that
Speaker 1: night Donald and Paul talked, So they're getting along fine.
Speaker 1: And I think mcconnald as well. Um, you know that
Speaker 1: interview was was was a bit old, and you know,
Speaker 1: to give him some credit, I mean, Donald Trump had
Speaker 1: made some serious changes on the campaign since that interview
Speaker 1: and in fifty one million dollars in two and a
Speaker 1: half weeks in June, uh prepared remarks which I do
Speaker 1: agree are are a good thing for Donald Trump, and
Speaker 1: I think he is enjoying it as well. And I
Speaker 1: think the people out there are enjoying seeing it both
Speaker 1: off the cuff and prepared. Remark. So, I actually think
Speaker 1: the last few weeks on the Trump campaign have been
Speaker 1: a very positive few weeks, and I think people are
Speaker 1: getting confident, and we're preparing here in Cleveland. I'm here
Speaker 1: right now for a good convention, and um, it's really
Speaker 1: coming together in spite of you know, the media likes
Speaker 1: to to make play up to all these wild narratives,
Speaker 1: but it's actually going very well. Well, I guess, uh,
Speaker 1: this is VP week. So the names we keep hearing
Speaker 1: General Flynn, we hear Mike Pence, we hear former Speaker
Speaker 1: of the House, Nuke Gang Rich, we hear Jonie Ernest.
Speaker 1: Clearly all of these people have been vetted and others
Speaker 1: that I know. But who do you think would best
Speaker 1: serve Donald Trump? Well, only Donald Trump knows the answer
Speaker 1: to that. I mean, some of this comes down to
Speaker 1: just you know, your gut feeling as far as who
Speaker 1: you can work with, who you think could be president
Speaker 1: if something should happen to yourself. Are they're all great choices?
Speaker 1: I Um, you know, Look, I think that I think
Speaker 1: he's looking for experience, Think someone that understands Washington, someone
Speaker 1: that understands governing, um, you know, and someone that's probably
Speaker 1: an established, experienced person. That's what my guess is. You know, look,
Speaker 1: it's his decision, and I'm not gonna press too much,
Speaker 1: but I'm in vault. I talked to Donald Trump about
Speaker 1: this quite regularly, and and uh, but you're you're right.
Speaker 1: It is coming down to the wire, and it's an
Speaker 1: important decision for Boston, the party and the convention. And
Speaker 1: obviously they're gonna run. We're gonna run out of time
Speaker 1: here sooner or later, and we'll know. I've been told
Speaker 1: that there's still efforts among the anti Trumper crowd that
Speaker 1: they're gonna try and take the nomination on the floor,
Speaker 1: and they want a big fight on the floor. And
Speaker 1: we keep hearing that there's gonna be other issues coming
Speaker 1: up as well, that there's they expect a lot of
Speaker 1: protesters in Cleveland, etcetera. Um, what do you first make
Speaker 1: of those people that have been so adamant against Donald Trump?
Speaker 1: And what do you think, for example, about people that
Speaker 1: broke the pledge that they made to you and to
Speaker 1: their party. Well, on the pledge piece, I think it's wrong,
Speaker 1: and I think that many of the folks signed the
Speaker 1: data exchange agreements, that that was where the pledge was embedded.
Speaker 1: It wasn't just a pledge on a blank sheet of paper.
Speaker 1: It was a pledge and exchange for the data operation
Speaker 1: from the r n C. And even if you used
Speaker 1: just part of it and you pledge to support the nominee,
Speaker 1: I believe you should live up to the data Exchange
Speaker 1: Agreement and the pledge of support that the campaign signed.
Speaker 1: That's one the second piece in regard to your question
Speaker 1: on the unbinding. So it's called movement. Look, he earned
Speaker 1: it fair and square, and in fact it wasn't even close. Okay,
Speaker 1: if we're being honest about this, it wasn't close. And
Speaker 1: I don't think there is enough support. Well, there's not
Speaker 1: enough support to take a nomination from a person I
Speaker 1: got fourteen million votes and earned it. So I don't
Speaker 1: see it's Sean. I think it's a lot of hype
Speaker 1: and sure enough to think to you that there aren't
Speaker 1: going to be a motion, and you know there's gonna
Speaker 1: be a motion in the Rules Committee, but I don't
Speaker 1: think there's enough support to go that direction. Um, what
Speaker 1: do you expect to happen this week, because you have
Speaker 1: the Rules Committee meeting and all these other events that
Speaker 1: are going on this week. What do you expect is
Speaker 1: going to happen this week? Do you expect any problems
Speaker 1: at all? Or is this all chatter and talk among
Speaker 1: some people that are sore losers. Well, I think it's
Speaker 1: mostly chatter among sore losers. But I think that if
Speaker 1: you look at the evidence so far we've had Platform
Speaker 1: Committee today, you didn't hear a whole lot. I mean,
Speaker 1: prepare smooth. Are there gonna be any Is there gonna
Speaker 1: be any changes that stand out in your mind? I
Speaker 1: don't think in particular. I mean, I don't think there's
Speaker 1: a whole lot of major shifts in the party platform
Speaker 1: or beliefs that we've held dear for a long time.
Speaker 1: I think that you look at some of the evidence.
Speaker 1: We have something called the Contest Committee, and I won't
Speaker 1: board the listeners, but the contest Committee is the place
Speaker 1: that if you have delegate fights or who's the delegate
Speaker 1: and who's not the delegate, it's like a work And
Speaker 1: so the Contest Committee here's all of the cases of
Speaker 1: all these disputes over delegates here in Cleveland. To give
Speaker 1: you an idea of four years ago, we had twenty
Speaker 1: one contests that were heard. This year we have five.
Speaker 1: So you would think from listening to the media that
Speaker 1: we have a fiasco brewing, when in fact, we've got
Speaker 1: a quarter of the arguments filed with the Contest Committee
Speaker 1: that we had even four years ago. So the evidence
Speaker 1: just at this point isn't there. And I'm not not
Speaker 1: telling you there isn't gonna be maybe some drama and rules,
Speaker 1: but it's not gonna be anything that's I don't think
Speaker 1: catastrophic or earth shattering to tell you the truth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what happens could walk us through the week and what
Speaker 1: goes on this week, so people can follow it if
Speaker 1: they want. Well, today it's platform and the committees are
Speaker 1: all meeting right now. We're about to go down and
Speaker 1: talk to the entire Platform committee to start in public
Speaker 1: debate after the sub committees had met, uh little meet
Speaker 1: again tomorrow if necessary. We'll have the Rules Committee on Wednesday.
Speaker 1: In between that will have the r n C meeting
Speaker 1: on Tuesday Wednesday at the same time. So actually Republican
Speaker 1: National Committee conducts summer business in our own Rules Committee
Speaker 1: and Platform and Resolution, so we'll have our own meeting
Speaker 1: within all of these convention meetings. Wednesday Thursday would be
Speaker 1: Rules Committee Friday Rules if we need it, um, and
Speaker 1: then we're gonna head into the weekend, and then all
Speaker 1: of those committees will meet again on Monday morning at
Speaker 1: the Queue to finalize all of their reports, and then
Speaker 1: the gavel will come down at one o'clock on Monday
Speaker 1: and the start of the convention will proceed. Um, that's fascinating,
Speaker 1: all right, So it's gonna be do you know. Uh,
Speaker 1: I've actually gotten a glimpse at what the outline looks like.
Speaker 1: It looks like a pretty exciting convention. I don't want
Speaker 1: to give it all away because I don't think I
Speaker 1: have the authority to give it away. Well, it's going
Speaker 1: to be packed. And you know there were reports a
Speaker 1: few a couple of weeks ago. Oh they don't you know,
Speaker 1: they're chilling and all look everything X minutes is filth
Speaker 1: and so producers and the folks doing the production and
Speaker 1: the line by line are working with all of the
Speaker 1: participants and uh, you know, we have a shortened calendar.
Speaker 1: I mean the convention seven weeks sooner, which means everything.
Speaker 1: You know, normally we'd have another month and a half
Speaker 1: to go before we have to worry about all this.
Speaker 1: But I think it's better that we're getting it done
Speaker 1: now and we can move on to the general election,
Speaker 1: and and I think it's gonna be a great week.
Speaker 1: You know why I want new Gingrich to be picked
Speaker 1: as VP. I'll tell you my reasons, because well, whether
Speaker 1: you want to hear it or not, No, No, I didn't,
Speaker 1: I didn't. Okay, go ahead, because I think that the person.
Speaker 1: I think Donald Trump being outside of politics is an advantage,
Speaker 1: and I think having somebody that also shares his values
Speaker 1: in terms of really wanting transformative action in Washington is important.
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, a vice presidential candidate has
Speaker 1: got to be able to be president. We can check
Speaker 1: that box certainly. I think when Newt speaks, he commands
Speaker 1: people's attention. I think he's really good at that, and
Speaker 1: I think people understand how smart he is. His track
Speaker 1: record of success with the Contract with America bringing Republicans
Speaker 1: to power for the first time in forty years. He's
Speaker 1: a great campaign strategist. And I also think there's nobody
Speaker 1: more effective at communicating or prosecuting the case against Hillary
Speaker 1: and probably even making a better case for Donald Trump
Speaker 1: than he could make for himself. That's a lot of
Speaker 1: reasons he'd be a great candidate. And I think he
Speaker 1: would also govern, and you know the other side of it,
Speaker 1: you've got a government. I think people in Washington have
Speaker 1: to listen to news because he's got that power behind him.
Speaker 1: He's got he's very persuasive, but he's an extraordinary person.
Speaker 1: He's been wonderfully supportive to me and the party. You know,
Speaker 1: he's one of these guys to that and I mean
Speaker 1: this sincerely. There are things that the party does that
Speaker 1: I know some folks in aggress roots either take issue
Speaker 1: with or don't like. One of things great about Nude
Speaker 1: is he's a grand roots guy who understands the party
Speaker 1: and is always willing to roll up his sleeves and
Speaker 1: helped six problems and always build the any bridge that's
Speaker 1: ever necessary between the two entities. And that's a good
Speaker 1: that's a good teammate, there's no question. So he's one
Speaker 1: of many good options. And that's certainly not favoring him
Speaker 1: over others. But I just share your admiration, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: All right, Uh, I know you have to run to
Speaker 1: another meeting. I'll be in Cleveland on Thursday of this week,
Speaker 1: and we'll be starting our broadcasting on Thursday. We'll be
Speaker 1: working Thursday and Friday from Cleveland. Will be there special
Speaker 1: Hannity edition on Sunday, and then all next week during
Speaker 1: the convention on our regular TV time, our regular radio time.
Speaker 1: So hopefully you'll come see us, and we look forward
Speaker 1: to being there. I'd love to thank Sean. Alright, Uh,
Speaker 1: that is the RNC chairman, Ryan's previous on the Sean
Speaker 1: Hannity Show. Alright, eight hundred nine for one, Seawan is
Speaker 1: our toll free telephone number. You want to be a
Speaker 1: part of the program. Shawn is in Palm Beach Gardens.
Speaker 1: What's up, Sean? How are you? Glad you called? Hi? Good?
Speaker 1: Thank you? How are you? I'm good? What's going on?
Speaker 1: I'm like to talk about the fact that I think
Speaker 1: President Obama has divided this country more than any other
Speaker 1: president in my lifetime, and I think he instigated the
Speaker 1: killings in Dallas with his comments without knowing any of
Speaker 1: the specifics of the two shootings by police officers. He
Speaker 1: came out. Listen. I don't blame him, but the power
Speaker 1: of the pulpit of the president is so powerful so influential,
Speaker 1: and when he does what he does, has done many
Speaker 1: times and come out there without any facts information, rushed
Speaker 1: to judgment, like he did in Cambridge with Trayvon Martin
Speaker 1: in Ferguson in Baltimore. And he constantly gives these speeches
Speaker 1: about police misconduct. When you're talking about less than one
Speaker 1: half of one percent of cops being bad, he certainly
Speaker 1: creates an atmosphere where people feel that that their suspicions
Speaker 1: have been confirmed, that cops are corrupt. And I don't
Speaker 1: buy that, and I think it's unfair. He mentioned the
Speaker 1: racial disparities within our justice Systeff, and he didn't know
Speaker 1: the fact no one could judge at that moment, and
Speaker 1: no one should judge. And you know, I just like
Speaker 1: to say the media has talked about this race issue
Speaker 1: and how Donald Trump is creating racism. No Obama has
Speaker 1: created racism. I was just recently at a gas station
Speaker 1: in West Palm Beach, not in a great area. I'm
Speaker 1: a white, blonde girl. I had a black Jamaican man
Speaker 1: see my Trump bumper sticker on my car, and he said,
Speaker 1: I love Trump. He said Obama has destroyed this country.
Speaker 1: And if Hillary becomes president, I am going back to Jamaica.
Speaker 1: And then five minutes later, as this man was talking
Speaker 1: to me about how our presidents the Muslim and this
Speaker 1: and that and how he's destroying our country, I had
Speaker 1: a man from Guyana and he said the same thing.
Speaker 1: He saw my sticker and he said, I loved Trump.
Speaker 1: He said, you know what he said that people do
Speaker 1: not understand. He said, the Blacks and the Hispanics that
Speaker 1: are not supporting Trump do not understand that Democrats want
Speaker 1: to keep us down. They want to keep us so
Speaker 1: that we have to be under their control. With Trump,
Speaker 1: we will make money, we will prosper. And he said,
Speaker 1: becomes president. He said, I'm out of here and I'm
Speaker 1: back to Guiana. And you know, and I'm just tired
Speaker 1: of the whole racist issue within this country because I
Speaker 1: personally feel, Yeah, you have, as I mentioned earlier today,
Speaker 1: you have this police chief, this black police chief in
Speaker 1: El Paso, Texas, that said Black Lives Matter is a
Speaker 1: radical hate group. You know, Rudy Giuliani under fire for
Speaker 1: saying the Black Lives Matter movement puts a target on
Speaker 1: the back of officers and that the Black Lives Matter
Speaker 1: movement is inherently racist. There's nobody in New York history,
Speaker 1: new York City history, that did more to put in
Speaker 1: place measures to protect the thousands of people that were
Speaker 1: being killed in New York, most of which happened to
Speaker 1: be minority, than Rudy Giulianni. He wanted to save their lives,
Speaker 1: and he did. And then people race to use that
Speaker 1: our word, which is now rendering it meaningless because people
Speaker 1: so overuse it and inappropriately use it. Say two uh,
Speaker 1: anybody to make anything better? I didn't see it coming.
Speaker 1: He was a good son. He was a good son.
Speaker 1: I love my son all my heart. I hate what
Speaker 1: he did. Did he ever talk about any of his
Speaker 1: experiences in the military that maybe made you question that
Speaker 1: something happened? Was it the war or I don't remember anything.
Speaker 1: I don't remember anything about it. He just the military
Speaker 1: was not what Mica thought it would be. He was
Speaker 1: very disappointed, very disappointed. Um, but it may be that
Speaker 1: he the ideal that he thought of our government, of
Speaker 1: what he thought the military represented, it just didn't livele
Speaker 1: to his expectation. All right. That was the parents of
Speaker 1: the shooter in Dallas, Texas, Mica X Johnson, those were
Speaker 1: his parents, saying they had no idea that this was happening. Now,
Speaker 1: we had a lot of high profile incidents and comments
Speaker 1: made over the weekend. You know, cops are eighteen times
Speaker 1: more likely to be killed by black suspects than vice versa.
Speaker 1: I know the media doesn't want to tell the whole
Speaker 1: story or the percentage of cops that are good cops
Speaker 1: that never gets talked about. Hillary says white America to
Speaker 1: blame for deteriorating race relations. She said, I will call
Speaker 1: for white people like myselves to put ourselves in the
Speaker 1: shoes of African American families who fear every time their
Speaker 1: children go somewhere, who have to talk about how to
Speaker 1: really protect themselves when they're the ones who should be
Speaker 1: expecting protection from encounters with the police. I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: talking to white America. I think we're the ones who
Speaker 1: have to start listening to legitimate cries coming from African
Speaker 1: American citizens over the weekend. Now, for the second time
Speaker 1: in three days since Dallas, we have had a mass
Speaker 1: shooting attack on a on the police that thankfully this time,
Speaker 1: failed to injure or kill any cops. Gunfire hit the
Speaker 1: San Antonio police headquarters on Saturday night, leaving bullet marks
Speaker 1: on the building showcasings in an nearby alley. They're investigating
Speaker 1: that case. The Minnesota police chief says the anti cop
Speaker 1: protesters have turned into criminals. Obama administration says hate crime
Speaker 1: charges are unlikely in the case of of this guy
Speaker 1: in in Texas and others that may ultimately be involved. Um,
Speaker 1: how could it not be a hate crime when he
Speaker 1: said he wanted to kill white people and kill white cops.
Speaker 1: Micah Johnson anyway, joining us now, we have Sergeant Gilbert Fishblock.
Speaker 1: He's a former squaw leader, platoon mat tactical trainer of
Speaker 1: the Dallas cop killer uh mica X Johnson and Brian
Speaker 1: who we had to conceal his voice. He's a former
Speaker 1: n c O from Mika Johnson's a platoon and uh so,
Speaker 1: I appreciate you both being with us. Gilbert, tell us
Speaker 1: a little bit about what you know about this guy. Well, um,
Speaker 1: he's he's always been a pretty good kid. I mean,
Speaker 1: um when he first came to the unit. Um My,
Speaker 1: my initial analysis of them was he's just kind of
Speaker 1: goofy um. He just seemed like he was looking for attention.
Speaker 1: That was my opinion. But all around, he was pretty good.
Speaker 1: When we asked him that, you know, told him that
Speaker 1: we needed to get stuff done, He's usually there to
Speaker 1: do it. Um, very little trouble out of him. M hmm.
Speaker 1: But he was. He was kind of gluckxy and clumsy
Speaker 1: with with a lot of things, and certain things he
Speaker 1: showed from enthusiasm and other things he didn't now when
Speaker 1: I understand there was a report on Breitbart that shows
Speaker 1: that Mica Johnson's literally scrawled a black evolutionary message in
Speaker 1: his own blood. He was kicked out of the army
Speaker 1: for stealing panties, which is a bizarre charge to me.
Speaker 1: But anyway, he plotted a bigger assault, taunted officers in
Speaker 1: the police chief and we know that. You know, in fact,
Speaker 1: in spite of people reporting that it was an assault weapon,
Speaker 1: it was just a common s k S not an
Speaker 1: assault rifle. Uh. Is there anything Brian, you can tell
Speaker 1: us about him that stood out in your mind having
Speaker 1: known him for that amount of time. No, not really.
Speaker 1: I mean, there were times that things came out, but
Speaker 1: they were so spread out and random, but it would
Speaker 1: have been very difficult to put them all together and say, hey,
Speaker 1: this guy, this guy's got some issues that he doesn't
Speaker 1: need to be here anymore. Well, what made you think?
Speaker 1: What would make you think that? Um? He made comments
Speaker 1: that I was told about, UM see times somebody was
Speaker 1: talking about dying or death that he would say, well,
Speaker 1: you know, and whenever my time comes, I'm going to
Speaker 1: go down in history. But it don't you think that's
Speaker 1: pretty profound that somebody's talking about going down in history.
Speaker 1: Doesn't that sound like they have a plan to do
Speaker 1: something horrible? It would if there were more incidents that
Speaker 1: occurred pointing towards that, but there weren't. He joked around
Speaker 1: a lot. He always had a big smile on his face.
Speaker 1: He just never put off that persona that he was.
Speaker 1: And I've known some people in the military that I am.
Speaker 1: You know, if something like this happened, I could say
Speaker 1: I could have seen that coming. But not in this case.
Speaker 1: Even though he had said he's gonna go down in history, right,
Speaker 1: I said, there would be months and even years in
Speaker 1: between any kind of comment he would make. Gilbert, what
Speaker 1: do you want to say? I believe that comment came
Speaker 1: much later on. I think that was doing a conversation.
Speaker 1: If I'm not you know, mist ache, and that came
Speaker 1: while they were close towards and if his time in Afghanistan,
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, that correct, Brian. Do you believe
Speaker 1: that came at the end of his time in Afghanistan?
Speaker 1: I think it was sometime around mid tour from what
Speaker 1: I understand. Yeah, is there anything else you could tell
Speaker 1: us about him, anything else that you think stands out
Speaker 1: in your mind? Bryant, No, not really. I mean, he
Speaker 1: was never your model soldier, but he also wasn't one
Speaker 1: that was in much trouble. You had a lot of
Speaker 1: you had a lot of runs in the platoon, mainly white. Um,
Speaker 1: the whole white hating thing that's come out. Something had
Speaker 1: to have happened after he left the service, because it
Speaker 1: didn't show up earlier, Gilbert. Anything else that comes to
Speaker 1: your mind, No, I mean, it's just like I was saying,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's difficult to me for me to
Speaker 1: to really kind of took all this in. I mean,
Speaker 1: I was shocked as anybody else, especially when I found
Speaker 1: out that, you know that it was Micael that did that. Mainly,
Speaker 1: I guess the hard thing was for me And I
Speaker 1: talked to Brian about this on several different occasions. Shortly
Speaker 1: after the incident, happened was that. You know, it's for
Speaker 1: years I've I've asked and practically begged for us to
Speaker 1: be more tactically uh proficient. And being that myself, Brian
Speaker 1: and um, maybe one other in our company that had
Speaker 1: any kind of tactical experience, training or what have you,
Speaker 1: you know, it was left up to us to to
Speaker 1: do that. And when the final when the order finally
Speaker 1: came through, of course I was all series about it. Now, Micah,
Speaker 1: he just like again, he just was somewhat clumsy. He
Speaker 1: didn't seem to be too and throies about anything tactical.
Speaker 1: We worked with him more to try to get him
Speaker 1: to uh do the movements and some of the actions
Speaker 1: and of course of the techniques properly and to understand them.
Speaker 1: We've actually had other soldiers that have worked one on
Speaker 1: one with him to help him out during some of
Speaker 1: the practical extricide. But he just never It just never
Speaker 1: seemed to me it occurred to me that somebody like him,
Speaker 1: who never seemed to be enthused about anything to actful, um,
Speaker 1: he would actually take heart of it later on and
Speaker 1: uh and actually go with it and use it in
Speaker 1: in such a way. Al Right, guys, we really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Thank you both for being with us. Eight D nine
Speaker 1: for one. Shawn is a toll free telephone number. You
Speaker 1: want to be a part of the program. Uh, we
Speaker 1: got Eddie is in Virginia. Eddie, You're on the Sean
Speaker 1: Hannity Show. I'm glad you called, sir. Hey, I'm good afternoon.
Speaker 1: Thanks for taking my home. Thank you. You know, I
Speaker 1: just wanted to call. Okay, let me let me lay
Speaker 1: the ground with what I'm calling is that you know,
Speaker 1: of course enough. I mean, I'm going to follow you.
Speaker 1: And I listened to everything that is being shared on
Speaker 1: both sides of this whole balance issue being a form
Speaker 1: of veteran with hired veteran or whatever and stuff. I
Speaker 1: absolutely have seven people for people in unit because I
Speaker 1: was one for twenty years with my nation, just like
Speaker 1: the loyal cops. But you know the problem I'm having
Speaker 1: with this right here is instead of having balanced scales,
Speaker 1: and we're looking at what's going on in the minority
Speaker 1: community as well and h as in the police community.
Speaker 1: You know, everybody's jumping to in their corners, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, people are really trying to downplay what's going
Speaker 1: on the back all right, can you just pick up
Speaker 1: your phone? You're you're like on a speaker phone. You
Speaker 1: gotta get up too close to the mic. There, go ahead,
Speaker 1: Oh can you hear me? I'm sorry you pick up
Speaker 1: the phone because you're on it sounds like you're on
Speaker 1: a speaker phone. You gotta pick it up. Yeah, can
Speaker 1: you hear me better? That's better? Go yeah. But anyway, yeah, So,
Speaker 1: like I said, you know, we're jumping to our corners.
Speaker 1: You know, I was watching here show the other night
Speaker 1: when they were you know, having Eye on the ground
Speaker 1: talking through the different people in the Black Lives and
Speaker 1: Manage movie. And so I'll be honest with you, I
Speaker 1: didn't like how you were trying to find people that
Speaker 1: we're going to say things and playing I mean, what
Speaker 1: do you mean trying to what do you mean trying
Speaker 1: to find them? They were there when you kept you
Speaker 1: because they had because they had Black Lives Matters t
Speaker 1: shirts on. And let me ask you a question, do
Speaker 1: all lives matter or the Black lives matter? Ma? Thank you?
Speaker 1: So it's so to have a Black Lives Matter movement,
Speaker 1: you know, it seems to isolate and separate and not unite.
Speaker 1: You're talking about uniting here in the best way we
Speaker 1: can unite, saying all lives matter. And it's just a basic, simple,
Speaker 1: fundamental point that I would expect a presidential candidate like
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders to understand, Like, like, do
Speaker 1: you understand it? Have you ever lived in black? Have
Speaker 1: you ever been black? Shan, let me see, I woke
Speaker 1: up one day about a year ago. Do you realize
Speaker 1: how stupid your question is? I mean, it's really ridiculous.
Speaker 1: But you know, no, you know, this is what Sean
Speaker 1: Hannity knows and believes to be true in the way
Speaker 1: I was raised, and that is that every human being
Speaker 1: is created by the same God, and that we were
Speaker 1: all born with talent and all born with abilities. And
Speaker 1: I know that everything is broken down demographically throughout every
Speaker 1: even political campaigns and and rating services for crying out loud,
Speaker 1: I understand all that. But the reality is, yeah, there
Speaker 1: are some racist people, and yes, slavery was an evil,
Speaker 1: a horrible evil, and thankfully our framers and founders put
Speaker 1: in place a plan that we can overcome evil, wrong
Speaker 1: and injustices, and we did. And they were brave people,
Speaker 1: many of whom I got to meet when I was
Speaker 1: broadcasting in Atlanta that stood up against people that were
Speaker 1: turning dogs and fire hoses on them and throwing rocks
Speaker 1: at them. Uh for for justice for all people. And
Speaker 1: there were white people and they were black people fighting
Speaker 1: for the rights of individuals. Racism in any form is evil.
Speaker 1: I would agree with that. But you know, the problem
Speaker 1: here that we're having is, you know, if we look
Speaker 1: at the president, for example, he invites black lives matters
Speaker 1: to the White House and they're chanting pigs in a
Speaker 1: blanket for I am like bacon, And he only talked
Speaker 1: about Chicago nine times during his presidency. Three thousand, four
Speaker 1: ner and fifty nine people have been killed since he's
Speaker 1: been president in his own home city. So if black
Speaker 1: lives matter, why doesn't he speak about that? But I
Speaker 1: gotta go Elisa next in Florida. How are you, son,
Speaker 1: It's so good to talk to you today. I am
Speaker 1: calling to say I think Newts Gingrich would be an awesome,
Speaker 1: outstanding VP. He is a statesman, He is smart, He
Speaker 1: loved his country. He respects our constitution and the rule
Speaker 1: of law, which we need someone like that, you know.
Speaker 1: And that brings me to the antithesis of him, which
Speaker 1: I think is Paul Ryan, And what I originally called
Speaker 1: you for was to tell you that I've come up
Speaker 1: with an answer. I found out the answer to a
Speaker 1: question you've been asking for weeks on your radio show
Speaker 1: as well as your TV show. The question has been,
Speaker 1: why is Paul Ryan so quick to criticize Donald Trump
Speaker 1: but silent on criticizing Hillary Ana? But what's the answer
Speaker 1: to my question? I don't speaker. Ryan's office spoke to
Speaker 1: one of his assistance and assects and they said that
Speaker 1: the lady said to me, uh, he endorsed Trump. But
Speaker 1: Paul has a moral compass to uphold, and so when
Speaker 1: Trump says something that he doesn't agree with, he has
Speaker 1: to um, okay. But when he says that somebody's racist,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna vote for that person I think is racist.
Speaker 1: And he's never been outspoken, never challenged the president's agenda,
Speaker 1: which has been bad for the country. The way I
Speaker 1: and others have challenged Obama's agenda and they have literally
Speaker 1: signed off on it. That's a problem, a huge problem.
Speaker 1: And the same with Hillary. They're more critical of Trump
Speaker 1: than Hillary. Look, if if Trump loses this election, more
Speaker 1: than anybody else right now, I will blame Republican establishment
Speaker 1: type for that opening. Remember what she did, right, She
Speaker 1: sets up this unique server arrangement. She alone controls it.
Speaker 1: On that server, on that email system are her personal emails,
Speaker 1: her work related emails, Clinton Foundation information, and now we
Speaker 1: know classified information. This gets discovered, we find out this
Speaker 1: arrangement exists. Then what happens her lawyers, her legal team
Speaker 1: decides which ones we get and which ones they get
Speaker 1: to keep. They made the sort on the front end,
Speaker 1: and then we find out the ones that they kept
Speaker 1: and didn't give to us, didn't give to the American people,
Speaker 1: didn't give the Congress. The ones they kept, they destroyed them.
Speaker 1: And you don't have to take my word. I'll take
Speaker 1: what you said. On Tuesday, they deleted all emails that
Speaker 1: they did not return to the State Department, and the
Speaker 1: lawyers cleaned their devices in such a way as to
Speaker 1: preclude complete forensic recovery. Now that sounds like a fancy
Speaker 1: way of saying they hit the evidence right. And you
Speaker 1: just told Mr Gauley, thousands of emails fell into those categories.
Speaker 1: Now that seems to me to provide some context to
Speaker 1: what took place here. Did Secretary Clinton know her legal
Speaker 1: team deleted those emails that they kept from US. I
Speaker 1: don't believe so. Did Secretary Clinton approve those emails being deleted?
Speaker 1: I don't think there was any specific instruction or conversation
Speaker 1: between the Secretary and her lawyers about that. Did you
Speaker 1: ask that question, yes? Did Secretary Clinton know that her
Speaker 1: lawyers clean devices in such a way as to preclude
Speaker 1: complete forensic recovery? I don't believe that she did. Did
Speaker 1: you ask that question? Yes? Do you see how someone
Speaker 1: could view the context of what she did? Set up
Speaker 1: a private system, she alone controlled it, she kept everything
Speaker 1: on it. We now know from miss Aberdeen's deposition that
Speaker 1: they did it for that very reason, so no one
Speaker 1: could see what was there, based on the deposition Miss
Speaker 1: Aberdeen gave. And then when they got caught, they deleted
Speaker 1: what they had and they scrubbed their devices. Is that
Speaker 1: part of the context in evaluating this decision? Sure, and
Speaker 1: understand what inferences can be drawn from that collection of facts.
Speaker 1: Of course, when something is classified to put a marking
Speaker 1: on that paragraph, and there were three that bore see
Speaker 1: in parens, which means that's confidential classifying. So a reasonable
Speaker 1: person who has been a senator, a secretary of State
Speaker 1: a first lady, wouldn't a reasonable person know that that
Speaker 1: was a classified marking? As a secretary of State a
Speaker 1: reasonable person, That's all I'm asking. Before this investigation, I
Speaker 1: probably would have said, yes, I'm not so sure. I
Speaker 1: I don't find it incredible. Actor tell me, come on,
Speaker 1: I mean, I've only been here a few years, and
Speaker 1: I understand the importance of those markings. So you're you're
Speaker 1: suggesting that a long length of time that she had
Speaker 1: no idea what a classified marking would be. That's your
Speaker 1: swarm testimony today. No, not not that she would have
Speaker 1: no idea what a classified marketing would people. But it's
Speaker 1: an interesting questions to whether she this question about sophistication
Speaker 1: came up earlier, whether she was actually sophisticated enough to
Speaker 1: understand what a C in parens means. So you're saying
Speaker 1: this former secretary of State is not sophisticated enough to
Speaker 1: understand a classified marking. That's a huge statement. And what
Speaker 1: I'm saying you asked me, did I assume that someone
Speaker 1: would know? Probably before this investigation I would have I'm
Speaker 1: not so sure of that answer any longer. I think
Speaker 1: it's possible possible that she didn't understand what a cement
Speaker 1: when she saw it in the body of an email
Speaker 1: like that. Sector clintons that she never sent or received
Speaker 1: any class by information over her private email. Was that true.
Speaker 1: Our investigation found that there was class of information since
Speaker 1: so it was not true. That's what I said. Septter.
Speaker 1: Clinton said there was nothing marked class of AUD on
Speaker 1: her emails, either sent or received. Was that true? That's
Speaker 1: not true. There were a small number of portion markings
Speaker 1: on I think three of the documents. Sector Clinton said,
Speaker 1: I did not email any classified material to anyone on
Speaker 1: my email. There is no classified material. Was that true?
Speaker 1: Now there was classified material email. Septor Clinton said, you
Speaker 1: used just one device. Was that true? She used multiple
Speaker 1: devices during the four years of her term as Secretary
Speaker 1: of State. Sector Clinton said all work related emails were
Speaker 1: returned to the State Department. Was that true. No, we
Speaker 1: found work related emails thousands that were not returned. Scepter
Speaker 1: Clinton said, neither she nor anyone else deleted work related
Speaker 1: emails from her personal account. Was that true. That's a
Speaker 1: harder one to answer. That we found traces of work
Speaker 1: related emails in on device, scissor in slack space. Whether
Speaker 1: they were deleted or whether when a server was changed
Speaker 1: out something happened to them. There's no doubt that they
Speaker 1: work related emails that were removed electronically from the email system.
Speaker 1: Star Clinton said her lawyers read every one of the
Speaker 1: emails and were overly inclusive. Did her lawyers read the
Speaker 1: email content individually? Now? All right? You heard there from
Speaker 1: Congressman Jim Jordan's who is the chairman of the House
Speaker 1: Freedom Caucus. You heard from Congressman Mark Meadows in North Carolina,
Speaker 1: founding member of the Freedom Caucus. And you heard from
Speaker 1: Trey Goudy, and Trey Goudy just devastating. James Comey, the FBI,
Speaker 1: who had to acknowledge that Hillary said multiple lies, repeatedly
Speaker 1: lied to the American people as she made excuse after
Speaker 1: excuse after excuse that turned out not to be true. Anyway,
Speaker 1: News round up Information overload our one, Shawn is a
Speaker 1: number you want to be a part of the program.
Speaker 1: Congressman Jordan's and Congressman Meadows are with us. Uh. There
Speaker 1: is an ABC News Washington Post poll that finds Congressman
Speaker 1: Jordan's twenty one point landslide margin that the American people,
Speaker 1: a majority of them, believe that Hillary Clinton deserved to
Speaker 1: be indicted. I think a lot of prosecutors would would
Speaker 1: have taken the case to Grand Jerry to sean what
Speaker 1: seven different false statements she made to UH publicly? And
Speaker 1: four of them, at least four of them were made
Speaker 1: under oath to a congressive committee last October in front
Speaker 1: of the Bengalasi Committee. So when you have that fact pattern,
Speaker 1: and as Mr Comey said, the inference that can be
Speaker 1: drawn when they set up this situation, this unique server situation,
Speaker 1: did it for the very reason to hide information, according
Speaker 1: to Miss Aberdeen's deposition, And then when they got caught,
Speaker 1: they got the stored on the front end her and
Speaker 1: her lawyers. And once they decided which ones they'd keep,
Speaker 1: which one would come to Congress, and which one will
Speaker 1: come back to the State Department, they destroyed the other
Speaker 1: was and they did so in such a way. I
Speaker 1: love the language he learned. Lawyers cleaned their devices such
Speaker 1: a way as to preclude complete forensic discovery, which is
Speaker 1: a nice and fancy way of saying they hit the evidence.
Speaker 1: So when you have all that, it's kind of logical
Speaker 1: for Americans to infer what you just described, what the
Speaker 1: all described, Well, why do I think that this was me,
Speaker 1: I would have been arrested for obstruction of justice. That's
Speaker 1: the sad that's the sad takeaway. Shan is right now,
Speaker 1: so many Americans, why did James Comey do this? In
Speaker 1: your opinion, and now that you've had a chance to
Speaker 1: interview him and talk to him, and I watched these hearings,
Speaker 1: I was stunned. You know, he laid out a case
Speaker 1: for prosecution that went on for over thirteen minutes. I said, Wow,
Speaker 1: he's really going to do it. And then at the
Speaker 1: end he said, but forget it. While yes, we would
Speaker 1: act in other cases, we're not going to act in
Speaker 1: this case. He acknowledges she lied, as you point out
Speaker 1: seven times to the American people. Everything was designed for
Speaker 1: the purpose of preventing congressional oversight. Clearly she wanted to
Speaker 1: You know, I can think of multiple criminal statutes that
Speaker 1: she in fact broke and she got away with it,
Speaker 1: So that we just have to accept this is over
Speaker 1: now and trace in Tray's point that you know, no
Speaker 1: one ever just declares and puts in an email I'm
Speaker 1: going to break the law. You have to infer that
Speaker 1: and figure that out from what facts you have in
Speaker 1: front of us, and it's a logical inference, a logical
Speaker 1: conclusion when they set it up the way they did,
Speaker 1: and when she made this many fall statements regarding what
Speaker 1: actually took place that are directly contradicted by Mr Comby's investigation,
Speaker 1: and then everything points right, say okay, here we go,
Speaker 1: and then he doesn't do it. And so again I
Speaker 1: have to take him at his word, which is he
Speaker 1: talked in committee about he didn't feel that he could
Speaker 1: actually prove intent. For the rest of us were looking
Speaker 1: at all these facts, and we say, sure, it looks
Speaker 1: like intent right there in front of us. Congressman Meadows,
Speaker 1: you agree with that assessment? Well, I think for the
Speaker 1: most of the American people, Sean, it is that whim
Speaker 1: wilful intent that we somehow question. We say, how in
Speaker 1: the world can you look at this set of back
Speaker 1: and come to this conclusion? And I think that that's
Speaker 1: the troubling thing. And and most Americans believe that there's
Speaker 1: a double standard, one for Washington D Street d C
Speaker 1: and another for Main Street. Uh And and it's just problematic.
Speaker 1: Is it's like suggesting, Sean, that I am speeding past
Speaker 1: the speed limit and I didn't do it wilfully. I
Speaker 1: was just extremely careless and I shouldn't get a ticket.
Speaker 1: But yet we're dealing with national security. It should have
Speaker 1: a much higher standard than that. Well, I would think
Speaker 1: so too. Is Congress gonna move on this idea that
Speaker 1: Hillary should have a security clearance removing Sean hadn't still
Speaker 1: got on that and uh, And I also think that
Speaker 1: the question of her providing false answers under oath the
Speaker 1: Congress is going to be examined as well. So if
Speaker 1: we're trying to push on all three of those accounts, um,
Speaker 1: let me move on and talk about some other things. Um.
Speaker 1: There is a lot of anger, and I'm one of
Speaker 1: the people that are pretty angry a Congressman Paul Ryan
Speaker 1: for his treatment of Donald Trump. And I you know,
Speaker 1: it's very frustrating to me that the Republican establishments seems
Speaker 1: to be unwilling to accept the fact that Donald Trump
Speaker 1: won more votes than any other presidential nominee and and
Speaker 1: a in a primary than anybody else in history, and
Speaker 1: they seem to be unhappy with the votes of the
Speaker 1: American people. Why is that, Well, Sean, I think the
Speaker 1: vast majority of the American people have spoken, and it's
Speaker 1: very clear this particular point, there was a jury. The
Speaker 1: jury has come back with a verdict. Donald Trump is
Speaker 1: the nominee. And it's incumbent upon all of that to
Speaker 1: make sure that not only do we support the nominee,
Speaker 1: but we go even further than that, and to to
Speaker 1: push back again some of the media hits that come
Speaker 1: from from some on the left that would suggest that
Speaker 1: somehow Donald Trump is not speaking for the vast majority
Speaker 1: of Americans. I believe that he is. I do think
Speaker 1: that you're starting to see, uh, some in Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: Including Speaker Ryan come around uh and and part of
Speaker 1: that is is that just when when you have a
Speaker 1: difficult enough time of suggesting to control what we say
Speaker 1: when we're running for office, it's tougher when you have
Speaker 1: somebody like Donald Trump saying a few things that perhaps
Speaker 1: are more difficult to get your arms around. But I
Speaker 1: do think that you're going to see a very unified
Speaker 1: message coming out of the convention. I know Congressman Jordan
Speaker 1: and I both will be there and look forward to UH.
Speaker 1: Some of some people have said they're not going to
Speaker 1: go I mean past presidential candidates that are not going
Speaker 1: to go I find all of this very disturbing and frustrating,
Speaker 1: and I would make the argument and I think both
Speaker 1: of you, being parts of the Freedom Caucus, which is
Speaker 1: really the only part of Congress that I have any
Speaker 1: respect for, and both of you, in part are responsible
Speaker 1: for for Speaker Bayner being ousted. UM. I think I
Speaker 1: speak for most Americans and it showed up in every
Speaker 1: exit poll that they feel betrayed by the Republican Party
Speaker 1: that they didn't combat the Obama agenda and in the
Speaker 1: way that they had promised that they would. They didn't
Speaker 1: repeal the aspects of Obamacare they said they would, they
Speaker 1: didn't stop executive amnesty like they promised they would. They
Speaker 1: never had the willingness to use the power of the purse,
Speaker 1: their constitutional authority. They ceded that to the president. All
Speaker 1: the President had to do was threaten the government shutdown,
Speaker 1: and it looked like Republicans would cave out of fear
Speaker 1: they would get blamed. Well, you're you're right on uh.
Speaker 1: And that's why I think it's uh when you when
Speaker 1: you look at this race. Let's go to Cleveland, let's
Speaker 1: get behind our nominee, and let's make sure he wins.
Speaker 1: And remember the person we were just talking about. That's
Speaker 1: his opponent. So that's even more reason why we should
Speaker 1: do everything we can to help him win. The very
Speaker 1: person who set up this arrange of the very person
Speaker 1: who testified under oath in front of Congress and made
Speaker 1: false statements, very person in public we made other false statements.
Speaker 1: The same lady who who on the night of the
Speaker 1: beings the attack, thought it was more important to focus
Speaker 1: on the political spin even before the attack was over.
Speaker 1: So yeah, let's get behind our nominee and let's go
Speaker 1: win this thing and get the country headed back in
Speaker 1: the right treat Well, certainly, I mean the agenda that
Speaker 1: I have. I've interviewed Donald Trump many many times. I
Speaker 1: can tell you what he's gonna do on the border.
Speaker 1: I can tell you what he wants to do with
Speaker 1: HEALTHCAREC can tell you what he wants to do with
Speaker 1: the economy. I can tell you where he stands on energy,
Speaker 1: independence and the v A, and ISIS and radical Islamic terrorism,
Speaker 1: and on trade and everything else. And I think for
Speaker 1: the most part it's a very conservative agenda, more populous
Speaker 1: than conservative in some places like trade, but certainly an improvement.
Speaker 1: We know where he stands with Supreme Court Justice. Why
Speaker 1: this mysterious reluctance and resistance to get the Republican Party
Speaker 1: to support him? Congressman Meadows Well, I think part of
Speaker 1: what you have, Sean, is that you have a number
Speaker 1: of people who are afraid that things in Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: Will change. And that's what people across America are cheering for,
Speaker 1: is that they will change. And yet you've got the
Speaker 1: the the establishment of party in in Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: Saying please, don't change this, don't change that, and watch
Speaker 1: what you say. I think Americans and you and I
Speaker 1: both agree that it is time that we get a
Speaker 1: few things done. And even if Donald Trump is only
Speaker 1: successful on two or three of those things that he
Speaker 1: says that he's willing to address, we can cheer. That's
Speaker 1: two or three things, hey, energy independence, judges, repealing Obamacare,
Speaker 1: getting our our our balance, but getting a balanced budget
Speaker 1: would be massive. Let me ask you both this, this
Speaker 1: is VP selection week. If you could pick one person
Speaker 1: for Donald Trump to be his VP, who would you pick?
Speaker 1: Jim Jordan's my pick, Mark Meadows All right, stop, who
Speaker 1: would you pick? John Hannity? Because now you're you're you're
Speaker 1: you're a remember the Freedom Caucus. Why not pick Handy?
Speaker 1: That'd be good, By the way, just another reason most
Speaker 1: of these guys in d C. Republicans won't come near
Speaker 1: the show anymore, which is interesting. Ruined your reputation here
Speaker 1: even more? No, you didn't ruin my reputation. Remember all right,
Speaker 1: how do you like this argument for nuke ing Rich
Speaker 1: New King? Rich is the smartest guy I know. He's
Speaker 1: been there and he's done it. He's balanced the budget,
Speaker 1: he gave us welfare reform. He's the smartest political strategist.
Speaker 1: I can't think of anybody that could prosecute the case
Speaker 1: against Hillary better than him. I think he could probably
Speaker 1: even sell Donald Trump better than Trump can sell himself.
Speaker 1: He'd be great in debates. And I also think that
Speaker 1: he'd be able to go to Congress and give these
Speaker 1: guys a backbone in a spine, which they need. I
Speaker 1: think new would be great. Sean, And I don't know
Speaker 1: if you saw the Donald Trump speech in Cincinnati last week,
Speaker 1: a great speech where where people were fired up and
Speaker 1: it was kind of all over the place, but it
Speaker 1: was typical Trump and he was talking. He had new
Speaker 1: there with him, So I think if that's if that's
Speaker 1: all I keep hearing, I keep hearing Mike Pence. Who's
Speaker 1: better Mike Pence or new Gang Rich in your opinion,
Speaker 1: Mark Meadows, you know both of those are real good selections.
Speaker 1: I know Newt To have talked to him quite a
Speaker 1: bit over the last couple of months about really coming
Speaker 1: forward with a good plan. I loved his contract with America.
Speaker 1: You know, when you really look at it, you're right.
Speaker 1: He's one of the smartest, well informed debaters. And so
Speaker 1: whether I don't Trump pick Newt or Mike Pence, I
Speaker 1: could be satisfied with either one of them. Who would
Speaker 1: be better at prosecuting the case against Hillary? I think
Speaker 1: you know you've got actually new probably more in tune
Speaker 1: with that because because he's been following it. You've got
Speaker 1: Mike Pence is a governor. He's been focused on who's
Speaker 1: the guy of the two, who's the guy you want
Speaker 1: in the room if there's a huge crisis, economic, national security?
Speaker 1: Who would you prefer? I think they're mean. Look, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna pick. I think they're both. Mike Pence is
Speaker 1: a friend of mine. Think new To have been a
Speaker 1: great leader for our country and someone I have ut
Speaker 1: most respect for. I think either one would be tremendous,
Speaker 1: tremendous asset to the ticket. Thank you both. The only
Speaker 1: few people in Congress that I have any respect for.
Speaker 1: Jim Jordan, Mark Meadows, Thank you, guys. I was in
Speaker 1: your home state, Mark Meadows, last weekend. Then I got
Speaker 1: callback to work, so anyway, great to be in North
Speaker 1: Carolina as usual. All right, thanks so much. Snake here.
Speaker 1: Al right, guys, thank you. Let's get to our phones.
Speaker 1: A lot of you standing by very patiently. Joe and
Speaker 1: Ella j Georgia. Joe has been a longtime friend and caller. Joe,
Speaker 1: how are you glad you called, Sir Sean. I'm doing great,
Speaker 1: and I think that Trump. I'm really fired up now
Speaker 1: about Trump, and I think with Steve Moore's economic advisor,
Speaker 1: and I think Newt Gangridge would be the best vice president.
Speaker 1: Of course I'm from Georgia, no Newt for years. Personally,
Speaker 1: he would be fantastic to take the case to the
Speaker 1: American people that we need Trump's plan of less gum
Speaker 1: and less tact is more freedom. So I'm really fired
Speaker 1: up about Trump. And with Steve Moore as an advisory
Speaker 1: and Newt Gangridge as vice president, I think Trump will
Speaker 1: be the next president and would have the best economy
Speaker 1: of the best growth in the history of America. He's
Speaker 1: done it before. As I said, I can't think of anybody.
Speaker 1: I mean, new just commands when he speaks, he commands
Speaker 1: people to listen. He's that compelling, He's that bright, he's
Speaker 1: that smart. He's had the most transformative speakership I think
Speaker 1: of any speaker in modern times. And I can tell
Speaker 1: you that. You know, if I'm Trump and I want
Speaker 1: to prosecute the case against Hillary, I want Newton leading
Speaker 1: the way. If I'm Trump and if I want somebody
Speaker 1: to advocate and for me and make me look good
Speaker 1: and lay out my case, I think there's nobody better
Speaker 1: than Newt. If you if I want to Newt, alright, Joe,
Speaker 1: appreciate it. If I if I'm somebody, if I'm Donald
Speaker 1: Trump and I want my agenda laid out and somebody
Speaker 1: to articulate the vision that I have for the country,
Speaker 1: it's New. If there's somebody that I want debating on
Speaker 1: debate night, vice presidential debate night, it would be New.
Speaker 1: If I want a strategist, somebody that can help me
Speaker 1: win that. Remember, he literally spent years developing the foundation
Speaker 1: for the Contract with America, which brought Republicans to power
Speaker 1: for the first time in forty years. He knows how
Speaker 1: to win. If I want somebody that's gonna govern and
Speaker 1: that wants to govern in a bold transformation away, well
Speaker 1: that's the guy that's done it for me. It's a
Speaker 1: no brainer. I'm not saying the Pencil isn't a nice
Speaker 1: guy is. I'm not saying that General Flynn isn't a
Speaker 1: great man. He is. I'm not saying that I don't
Speaker 1: like Joanie Earnst today. I don't have a problem with
Speaker 1: Johnny Artist. But we'll see what happens. Let's go to
Speaker 1: Jeff in Brooklyn. Jeff, Hi, how are you? And glad
Speaker 1: you called? Hey? Sew you do feeling great? I think
Speaker 1: Trump and Newt would be the great dynamic duo. I mean,
Speaker 1: Trump will shake up the political world and there's nobody
Speaker 1: out there that is smarter than new Gamera and New
Speaker 1: Gambrage beat the Clintons twenty years ago. He will do
Speaker 1: it again. You can't double talk him, you can't back
Speaker 1: him with the corner, you can't all of ust him.
Speaker 1: He just has the answers to everything that would be
Speaker 1: the greatest duo there. He'd be the greatest vice president
Speaker 1: ever that we've ever had. There's no doubt in my mind.
Speaker 1: I think Trump needs somebody like New, somebody that's gonna
Speaker 1: go into the Capital that they know and like and respect.
Speaker 1: And some people don't like New, but that's too bad
Speaker 1: for them. That's gonna advocate forcefully the case for Trump,
Speaker 1: because if you don't get the Congress to go along,
Speaker 1: you can't do anything. You can't get We can't transform
Speaker 1: the country if we can't get the Congress to have
Speaker 1: a backbone. Are showed he could work with both sides
Speaker 1: and get it done. Absolutely to do seven out of
Speaker 1: tonight on the contract with America, and he kept his
Speaker 1: promise on those those top items. He kept the promise
Speaker 1: in the first hundred days, and that was kind of refreshing.
Speaker 1: We really haven't seen it since, have we not. It's
Speaker 1: great because anytime Republicans run and hide under the table,
Speaker 1: except for Trump and get Richard not going to run
Speaker 1: in hard New but he's gonna do what he says.
Speaker 1: All I appreciate it, Jeff. We have Michelle is in
Speaker 1: Colorado next on the Sean Hannity Show, What's Up Michelle,
Speaker 1: how are you? And we're glad you called. Thank you, Sean,
Speaker 1: how are you? I'm good. I I like Newts because
Speaker 1: I'm old enough to remember that he was able to
Speaker 1: get a lot done. He was able to bring the
Speaker 1: parties together. And I think, you know, if you look
Speaker 1: at it in an entertaining way, wing, it'd be fun
Speaker 1: to have new assist in going up against Hillary Clinton,
Speaker 1: who he knows better than most probably do. I just
Speaker 1: my biggest concern is the younger generation on many levels.
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of younger people that don't know
Speaker 1: who he is, and that, let me ask you a question.
Speaker 1: I think that's true. But I've guarantee you they don't
Speaker 1: know who Mike Pence or General Flynn is either, right? No, alright,
Speaker 1: So when new Kingrich speaks, can you not well, don't
Speaker 1: you think he is an impressive intellect? He is. And
Speaker 1: in fact of having this conversation with my husband and
Speaker 1: he said people are going to get news, didn't understanding.
Speaker 1: I said, you know something, if you really look at people,
Speaker 1: you look at humanity. Children craved discipline, children crave structure,
Speaker 1: and right now this country needs discipline, and we need structure,
Speaker 1: and we need that coming from someone with that level
Speaker 1: of class, that level of intellect, that level of understanding, so,
Speaker 1: in other words, more than anybody else when he speaks.
Speaker 1: For example, let's say they picked newt on Thursday or
Speaker 1: Friday this week, and and let's say new gives a speech.
Speaker 1: Don't you think that people will say, Wow, he's a
Speaker 1: pretty impressive speaker, even if they don't know him. How
Speaker 1: could you not exactly listening to Obama? And don't you
Speaker 1: think that would give confidence to maybe people that say, well, well,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump doesn't have the background and experience. And then
Speaker 1: people will learn that this guy actually is the last
Speaker 1: speaker to balance the budget and give us a surplus,
Speaker 1: and and this is the guy that was knows how
Speaker 1: to win. He was the architect of Republicans gaining power
Speaker 1: for the first time in forty years. And and then
Speaker 1: they're gonna learn about welfare reform. I mean, it was
Speaker 1: a truly transformative speaker. And all this happened during the
Speaker 1: Clinton administration. How could that not be beneficial from a
Speaker 1: marketing perspective? I agree, I'm I'm sold all right, Michelle,
Speaker 1: Thank you. Mo is in Brooklyn, New York, listening to
Speaker 1: the all New a M seven ten w o R
Speaker 1: The Voice of New York. How are you? I'm fine.
Speaker 1: Mo is a crazy liberal. MO has been calling me
Speaker 1: for years, But I like Mo. He do you still
Speaker 1: think I'm the most dangerous guy in America? Or is
Speaker 1: that past? Oh you're becoming so dangerous if the trumpets
Speaker 1: and you're you're heralding and it's just very, very dangerous
Speaker 1: what you're doing. Sean. If I was really concerned that
Speaker 1: America is going to take two steps backwards, I'd be
Speaker 1: really frightened. But America is not going to go backwards, Sean.
Speaker 1: No matter what, We're not going back to the days
Speaker 1: of Clinton. We're not going back to any of that stuff.
Speaker 1: These kids, they're not going to pull for the stuff.
Speaker 1: Well we'll see, But you know, I'm from my perspective.
Speaker 1: You know, Nuts the last guy that balance the budget, Nutes,
Speaker 1: the last guy that did anything remotely transformative of the country.
Speaker 1: And Nuts the last guy that was a great success.
Speaker 1: So if I'm Donald Trump, I can't think of anybody
Speaker 1: that would prosecute the case against Hillary Clinton as well
Speaker 1: as he would. I don't know anybody that could advocate
Speaker 1: for Trump. I think I think Newt will be more
Speaker 1: effective in selling Donald Trump than even Donald Trump can be.
Speaker 1: And who's the guy you want in a debate? Who's
Speaker 1: the guy that you want in the room the day
Speaker 1: that there's a financial crisis or an international crisis, or
Speaker 1: a foreign policy crisis of some kind? When do you know?
Speaker 1: Who do you want there? I want him anyway, mode.
Speaker 1: Thanks for the call. All right, back to our busy telephones.
Speaker 1: We go stas is in Vegas listening to cadon radio.
Speaker 1: What's upstairs? How are you glad you called? Doing great? Than? Hey?
Speaker 1: Thank you? What's going on? Wanted to comment on Trump's
Speaker 1: candidate vice presidential candidate Guy was disappointed years ago when
Speaker 1: new ing Rich didn't run for president. I think you'd
Speaker 1: make a fantastic vice president for a number of different reasons,
Speaker 1: some of what you've already mentioned, but also and he's proven,
Speaker 1: but also because if one of these wackos successfully takes
Speaker 1: out Donald Trump, as they threatened, who better, who is
Speaker 1: more qualified to be president of the United States? Would
Speaker 1: make a fantastic president. So well, that's the number one criteria,
Speaker 1: the number one if you're looking for a VP, can
Speaker 1: that person be the president? If God forbid, something happens
Speaker 1: you have to ask that question first once they meet
Speaker 1: that threshold, then to me in this election year and
Speaker 1: tell me if you think my thinking is wrong. I
Speaker 1: think you've got to ask, all right, who is gonna
Speaker 1: First of all, I think he would help with the base,
Speaker 1: and Trump needs help with the base. It's only about
Speaker 1: Republican and Republicans that on at least according to the
Speaker 1: polling that are voting for Trump. I think Newt would
Speaker 1: increase that number significantly because he's loved by conservatives. The
Speaker 1: second thing, who would best prosecute the case against Hillary?
Speaker 1: I can't think anybody better. Who would you most want
Speaker 1: to be in a vice presidential debate that you'd have
Speaker 1: confidence in? Who do you think could best advocate for Trump?
Speaker 1: I think new might might advocate better for Trump than
Speaker 1: Trump can, for crying out loud, because he would articulate
Speaker 1: what his vision is. Yeah, I think you're spot on
Speaker 1: on on all those topics. One other thing about Nut
Speaker 1: is he has a great crossover appeal. You know, I
Speaker 1: was looking at Van Jones Facebook page. I think just
Speaker 1: you know, it's very well connected in New king which
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna help him on many many levels.
Speaker 1: I saw that as well, and you know what, he
Speaker 1: also has another post that he put up there that
Speaker 1: I thought was pretty impactful as well. But you know, look,
Speaker 1: new to Is is a powerful personality in his own right.
Speaker 1: But if I'm Donald Trump and you really want to
Speaker 1: transform the country, I want a partner that's going to
Speaker 1: be able to help me get that that dramatic change
Speaker 1: that American needs. I don't think it's a time for
Speaker 1: half measures. And while I think the names on the
Speaker 1: list that we keep reading about, there's many admirable people
Speaker 1: on there, but I don't see anybody that could be
Speaker 1: as effective in any of the categories in which I'm
Speaker 1: looking at this from. Yeah, I I completely agree new
Speaker 1: is definitely the guy. Gotta go with new Krige all right,
Speaker 1: thanks to appreciate it. Eight nine four one. Sean Leslie
Speaker 1: is in Fayetteville, Arkansas, Leslie High. How are you glad
Speaker 1: you called? Thanks so much, Thanks for taking umping Will.
Speaker 1: I had some thoughts about the vice presidential pick chose.
Speaker 1: At first, I'll say I will vote for Trump no
Speaker 1: matter who he chooses. Um, he is now my candidate.
Speaker 1: Rubio had been my candidate during the primary, and so
Speaker 1: there here's my question for you. I do think right
Speaker 1: Rubio does, and Rubio doesn't want the job. I know,
Speaker 1: all right, Rubio is now back running for the sentence.
Speaker 1: So you gotta look at, you know, some of the
Speaker 1: realities of of what the political situation is now. So
Speaker 1: not everybody is available, and uh okay, and John Kasias governor,
Speaker 1: he said he doesn't want to be considered, and he's
Speaker 1: not He would not be my pick. Yeah, okay, so
Speaker 1: all right, but he's not available either. So if you
Speaker 1: look at if you're looking for geographic choices, look good
Speaker 1: for the guy that can prosecute intelligently and forcefully and
Speaker 1: passionately the case against Hillary, and that can advocate for
Speaker 1: Trump and can explain Trump's positions, you know, in a
Speaker 1: way that Trump can't. I think definitely that Nut can
Speaker 1: do that. I think he's the man. Here are my
Speaker 1: two concerns about Nut. One is his age. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure that he would that. I'm afraid that might be
Speaker 1: a problem for some people that The other thing I
Speaker 1: have is his history with the Clinton's. I think he
Speaker 1: gives Hillary a perfect opportunity to say, you know, to
Speaker 1: brush aside any sort of criticism. Well, here Nut goes again,
Speaker 1: always after the Clinton. So I don't that part makes
Speaker 1: me a little bit uneasy. You know, the best offense
Speaker 1: is a good excuse me, the best defense is a
Speaker 1: good offense. The resident answering questions, it gives her an
Speaker 1: opportunity to go on the offense, to nut and try
Speaker 1: to demean his remarks, just saying well, historically you've always
Speaker 1: gone after the Clinton's so that that's a little bit
Speaker 1: of uneasiness I had with him too. Here's my case.
Speaker 1: He's been in the most transformative political figure since Ronald Reagan.
Speaker 1: Just a just a fact. So he brings that wealth
Speaker 1: of knowledge and experience with him. He's older, wiser, and
Speaker 1: smarter because I know him, he reads every second of
Speaker 1: every day. He's the most intelligent and most articulate guy
Speaker 1: that I interview on a regular basis by far, there's
Speaker 1: no That's why I like that month so much, because
Speaker 1: he's so smart, so insightful. He has this this knowledge,
Speaker 1: this base of history that is inspiring in which everything
Speaker 1: that he says is is sort of filtered through that
Speaker 1: prism of history that he has such great knowledge of.
Speaker 1: I could I think he would dissect and literally take
Speaker 1: peace by peace, make the case against Hillary Clinton in
Speaker 1: a way that's so far effective above his nearest competitor.
Speaker 1: I think he would lay out in in his very
Speaker 1: common sensical speaking style, why Donald Trump would be a
Speaker 1: great president. I think that he would be behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: the best strategist for the team, and I think in
Speaker 1: terms of governing if they win, he's the eye that
Speaker 1: could help get things done. And frankly, winning is part
Speaker 1: of it, but then governing is the biggest part of it.
Speaker 1: And bringing transformational change to Washington is not going to
Speaker 1: be a simple task. We'll find me for the Trump
Speaker 1: Gingrich team. Then I just you're gonna put aside the yard,
Speaker 1: all right, thank you big time. A j Houston, Texas.
Speaker 1: What's going on? Baby, baby? Our hearts heavy this time
Speaker 1: and and Trump is going to be the ones that
Speaker 1: fixed this dog gone. They got to do the operation
Speaker 1: to get this country back. We have fallen back fifty
Speaker 1: years afterwards Hillary and Obama has done to us. And
Speaker 1: I rather have Mr Sheriff Clark speak tomorrow instead of
Speaker 1: Obama because all the rhetoric and nobody has ain't gonna
Speaker 1: see it. They're gonna call me what they want, but
Speaker 1: Alto ready comes out. Since this guy walked in. This
Speaker 1: has been against the police department and large episode because
Speaker 1: without the police, we this country and the world would
Speaker 1: be a mess and dog going it. Why in the
Speaker 1: world media letting them get away with this. I don't
Speaker 1: know the ideology that they're doing, but New and Trump
Speaker 1: they're gonna be the ones that fixed this mess and
Speaker 1: with I helped to vote them in to make sure
Speaker 1: Hillary don't get in there to finish up what Obama
Speaker 1: has done to this country. Boor, I tell you America,
Speaker 1: we got to take this back and take it back
Speaker 1: with binges, baby, because this is a shame what's going
Speaker 1: on with our country. I said, our country because all writers,
Speaker 1: all lives matter. Now I'm sick of the race thing.
Speaker 1: All lives matter. God made us all bleed, read and
Speaker 1: dog gonna. We were tired of people picking and choosing
Speaker 1: who they're going against the people. We all matter in
Speaker 1: God's eyes and make the choice right this time. If
Speaker 1: we don't, well you know what, John, I just don't
Speaker 1: want to say what, because I believe we're gonna do
Speaker 1: it right, all right, My friend and big time A
Speaker 1: J Houston, Texas. Always love hearing his voice