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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I'm here with Kyle

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Speaker 1: Olsen and Sarah Broadwater and we are talking about Georgia today.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday we had a devastating school shooting. It's I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's just shocking to me. It's the first week of school.

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Speaker 1: It's very hard to hear these things as a parent.

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Speaker 1: And I know Sarah and I were talking this morning.

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Speaker 1: She's like, look, even if you're not a parent, it's

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Speaker 1: devastating to hear. And I think that we as a

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Speaker 1: society want to immediately blame someone, you know, we instead

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Speaker 1: of kind of unpacking it, stepping back, we want to

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Speaker 1: blame someone. And that is hard because I think that's

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Speaker 1: human nature to be mad and want to know why.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just before we started recording, we're like going

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Speaker 1: through what details do we know? And we're still learning,

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Speaker 1: We're still learning what happened. We're still trying to figure

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Speaker 1: out how this kid got in there. I think, to me,

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Speaker 1: the most shocking part about this is that this kid

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Speaker 1: was fourteen, younger than my oldest child, walking in with

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Speaker 1: what we understand from what we little we know was

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Speaker 1: an ar style weapon that he went in and shot

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Speaker 1: up his classmates. With and I think it's shocking. But

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Speaker 1: I also think that we say this and then we

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Speaker 1: move on, and I'm tired of us moving on.

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Speaker 2: I was texting you this morning about the coverage. I

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Speaker 2: was flipping through the different networks, and I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: I want wall to wall coverage, because I think there's

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Speaker 2: a balance here, because you also don't want to glorify

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Speaker 2: the shooter and make him famous, and that's exactly what

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Speaker 2: a lot of these kids wants and the reason that

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Speaker 2: they do it. But it was an interesting way to

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Speaker 2: look at it this morning, when I mean, it really

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Speaker 2: didn't get the coverage that it typically got, and so

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Speaker 2: the conversation becomes, are we starting to be hardened to it?

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Speaker 2: And it just becomes a part of regular society that

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Speaker 2: we just say, oh, with the school shooting, it's going

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Speaker 2: to happen every once in a while. And that's the fear,

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I thought when I because yesterday I

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Speaker 1: picked up my daughter from high school and I was

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Speaker 1: listening to the coverage on the radio, and she got

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Speaker 1: in the car and she was like, what's wrong? And

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Speaker 1: we talked about it, and I said and then and

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Speaker 1: then they immediately said the Vice President's coming out and

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Speaker 1: she's going to speak on this, and so we were

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Speaker 1: both quiet and we listened, and you know, she said

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Speaker 1: the normal things like this is devastating, we're sad our

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Speaker 1: kids and our kids should never have to be worried

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Speaker 1: about going to school, and everybody cheered, and that felt

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Speaker 1: off Like in that moment, I felt like, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: it just didn't feel genuine and you know, in these moments,

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Speaker 1: do you what do you say? But it still felt

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Speaker 1: very disconnected to what it's like as a parent to

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Speaker 1: be wondering if your kid is safe and what these

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Speaker 1: parents are going through, the unimaginable losing your child in

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Speaker 1: such a violent way. And then she says, but we're

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Speaker 1: the underdog in this race and we've got to keep fighting,

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Speaker 1: and just this roorist cheer, and I thought, this is

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Speaker 1: the problem. It's something that we don't it's an uncomfortable conversation.

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Speaker 1: People don't want to have the conversation. But what are

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Speaker 1: we doing about it? And maybe it's not politically. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we've talked about this. Maybe it's not politically. Maybe we

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Speaker 1: need to be educating our kids in a different way.

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Speaker 1: Maybe there needs to be campaigns going to kids talking

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Speaker 1: about the importance of life and you know, not not

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Speaker 1: doing these things and there's nothing that bad, and there's

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't see those messages going to

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Speaker 1: my kids. I don't see positive messages. In fact, in

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Speaker 1: society today, see a lot of negative messages going to kids,

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Speaker 1: like nothing can be this bad. And yet at the

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Speaker 1: same time, I look at what happened in just Michigan

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Speaker 1: this year they cut school safety funding. I mean, there

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Speaker 1: are options too to keep our kids safe, and we're

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Speaker 1: cutting funding to that. It just blows my mind.

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Speaker 3: And The Midwesterner had a story Wednesday about you know,

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Speaker 3: one of these one of the issues is that I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think it's anecdotal, but I think clearly people are

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Speaker 3: saying there are mental health issues going on. If you

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Speaker 3: anything like that, obviously there's some significant issues going on.

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Speaker 3: So then the question is how do you deal with

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Speaker 3: what Michigan is doing is they are they're bringing in

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Speaker 3: to be health mental health navigators, that's what they're calling them.

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Speaker 3: They're going to put them in schools. I don't know

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Speaker 1: Is enough themselves at twenty four, how does that even work?

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Speaker 3: But they're saying that this is a solution, is to

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Speaker 3: have kids who have just graduated, just graduate, graduated high school,

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Speaker 3: ones that we're going to look to to intervene on

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Speaker 3: these sorts of situations. And is that a solution? And

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Speaker 3: then on top of that, what we see and after

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Speaker 3: red flag laws. We need we need to charge parents

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Speaker 3: and all of it in its whether it's every town

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Speaker 3: or it's the other you know, anti gun groups. They

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Speaker 3: have sort of whittled down what needs to be done

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Speaker 3: and if you pass these laws, then you know things

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Speaker 3: will be better. But there but the other incident we

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Speaker 3: haven't talked about yet is what happened at the Michigan

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Speaker 3: State Fair and the fourteen year old kid was killed,

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Speaker 3: and so of course the logical question is, well, one,

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Speaker 3: why is a fourteen year old out at four o'clock

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Speaker 3: state fair open all of that? But how did this

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Speaker 3: person get the gun? Is the parent going to be charged?

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Speaker 3: But then, of course the problem is that that is

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Speaker 3: a that is a reactive sort of thing. So this

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Speaker 3: happens and then the parent has charged, so it's a

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Speaker 3: very complicated thing.

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Speaker 1: Well, and it's not legal. It's not legal for these

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Speaker 1: state fair and shoot someone or walk into school. But

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Speaker 1: honestly to what you're saying, I mean, I don't understand

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Speaker 1: how does a fourteen year old get this kind of

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Speaker 1: think the parents are responsible. The kid is fourteen. Now,

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Speaker 1: I went to the doctor yesterday with my daughter who

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Speaker 1: apparently there are people that feel like someone who is

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Speaker 1: And honestly, when we talk about these air fifteen guns,

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Speaker 1: I know this is an unpopular position to take, but

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Speaker 1: why are kids allowed to use an AAR fifteen anywhere?

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Speaker 1: Why do they get to Why would a shooting range

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Speaker 1: And yeahsad that does I go back to the parents.

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Speaker 1: Who is responsible for this? Why do you have to

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Speaker 1: to be twenty one to shoot an AR fifteen.

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Speaker 2: This is the part that both sides don't want to

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Speaker 2: talk about because every side is ingrained on their little

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Speaker 2: to talk about how guns potentially could be involved in

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Speaker 2: about how big pharma and mental health potentially could be

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Speaker 2: the MSU campus shooting at Michigan State. They claim they're

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Speaker 2: going to do all these things to protect these kids.

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Speaker 2: The parents go and ask where the update is and

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Speaker 2: but it doesn't It still doesn't actually solve any of

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Speaker 2: I think there's a place for politicians to be involved.

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Speaker 2: They need to have a discussion about it. They need

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Speaker 2: And that's which I mean Parkland for instance. It was

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Speaker 2: very clear after Parkland. I worked in the Department of

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Speaker 2: But both sides wanted to pick apart which parents they

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Speaker 2: The Democrats had their pick parents and students that they

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Speaker 2: I don't understand why we can't have this conversation altogether.

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Speaker 2: Every parent's can feel differently about losing their child or

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Speaker 2: to feel differently about when they were in that position too,

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Speaker 2: But we're not having the conversation together. We just immediately

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Speaker 1: Think the majority of these young kids that are getting

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Speaker 1: these I am all for parents hunting with their kids

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Speaker 1: and kids being you know, go through going through hunter safety.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know people that went through hunter training

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Speaker 1: in high school. They learned how to use a weapon

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Speaker 1: and it was a hunting rifle. And like I said,

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Speaker 1: I know this is unpopular, but I just don't understand

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Speaker 1: why little kids are using a weapon of this caliber.

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Speaker 1: And I know that I'm going to get attacked for

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Speaker 1: that statement, but I got kids going to school every day,

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Speaker 1: and I keep hearing people say, oh, you know, I

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Speaker 1: care about making sure schools are safe. The other thing

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Speaker 1: you brought up is pharmaceutical companies. Why the heck do

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Speaker 1: we not get to know what medications these kids are on?

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Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, but when you go shoot up a school,

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Speaker 1: your privacy is over. Forget about that. We're going to

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Speaker 1: know every I want to know everything about this kid.

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Speaker 1: I want to know who is responsible, because I don't

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Speaker 1: believe we just suddenly have this mental health crisis. This

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Speaker 1: is directly correlates with suddenly all of these kids being

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Speaker 1: on meds, every one of them. You got somebody on riddling,

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Speaker 1: you get somebody on adderall, you get somebody on this.

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Speaker 1: Tell me what these kids that specifically committed these crimes,

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Speaker 1: these kids who decided to go do the unthinkable shoot

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Speaker 1: up their classmates, what medications are they on? How was

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Speaker 2: Correct me if I'm wrong on this. But wasn't it

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Speaker 2: just this week that the Covenant shooter in Nashville, the

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Speaker 2: manifesto and everything was finally released. So to me, I mean,

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Speaker 2: why are we waiting so long? They've had this information.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is so much past the time where

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Speaker 4: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Why are the Michigan State parents

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Speaker 2: And this is what I know. You brought up the

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Speaker 2: just that's what has to happen. And so we think

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Speaker 2: about the Parents' Right movement during COVID. In my mind,

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Speaker 2: this should be the next iteration of the parents Right.

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Speaker 1: This should have been before. I mean, yes, it should never.

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Speaker 2: Have been stop in with yeah, but if you want

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Speaker 2: at the end of the day to the next iteration,

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Speaker 2: this should be the focus because it's something that all

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is a broader movement.

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Speaker 1: Tuck your pride away, forget about all of the things

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Speaker 1: Look at kids like Peel back all the layers of

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Speaker 1: just sit down and talk. I mean, this is not

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Speaker 1: down and say, okay, let's I mean, let's brainstorm. I

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Speaker 1: we're gonna put on our thinking caps. We're all going

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Speaker 1: at the end. We did this in business, when I

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Speaker 1: was in business, we did this. Why are we doing this?

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Speaker 1: Are we really that incapable of talking to one another

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Speaker 1: let's pick and choose which ones can go together.

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Speaker 2: It shouldn't be that hard if the focus is actually

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Speaker 2: on kids, right, And that's where everything gets lost. The

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Speaker 1: Well, we haven't solved the issue, but I really think

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Speaker 1: that there is an opportunity to solve it. And I

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Speaker 1: hope that we can continue talking about this in the future.

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Speaker 1: And I'm glad that you guys were all here to

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Speaker 1: listen to us today. I thank Kyle Olsen and Sarah

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Speaker 1: Brownwater for being with me on the Tutor Dixon Podcast

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