Speaker 1: On this episode of the Hate Check, what is going
Speaker 1: on out in Sacramento. We break it all down with
Speaker 1: my guy, Kenny Carroway of Sacramento's ESPN thirteen twenty. We
Speaker 1: cover the Deer in Fox trade in detail, what I
Speaker 1: thought about it, what's next for the Sacramento Kangs, and
Speaker 1: we talked about the Luca trade even more as more
Speaker 1: details starts to trickle out.
Speaker 2: Fun, fun show. Anthony dropped that motherfucking beat that should.
Speaker 1: Be Rihanna.
Speaker 2: Appearing on the Dlo and Casey Show in Sacramento is one.
Speaker 1: Of my favorite things. I've running the fans of the
Speaker 1: show everywhere from New York City to Alexandria to Vegas.
Speaker 1: So the fan base since Sacramento is very strong and
Speaker 1: they are heartbroken right now. I joined Kenny Carroway and
Speaker 1: it was super fun discussion. I'm publishing it here so
Speaker 1: you can get all the tea and how I feel
Speaker 1: about Deer and Fox along with somebody who covers the
Speaker 1: team on a day to day basis, as well as
Speaker 1: the rest.
Speaker 2: Of the NBA.
Speaker 1: Many thanks to Kenny. Damien was out and a super
Speaker 1: producer Jesse. Let's get into it.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness is bringing testing because Tristan will love
Speaker 3: this conversation. Trista, what's going on with your girl? What's
Speaker 3: not much? Not much? Are you in an airport? Are
Speaker 3: you in another lounge?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: Got shut down? That Centurion lounge got shut down? Wait
Speaker 4: what the Atlanta Centurion MX lounge got shut down?
Speaker 2: What is my wife?
Speaker 1: It's my internet?
Speaker 2: Really bad?
Speaker 3: No, No, you're you're good now. It's it's working its
Speaker 3: way in. You're you're good now. I hear you. You
Speaker 3: sound great. How did the lounge get shut down?
Speaker 2: They found food?
Speaker 1: They found bugs in the food.
Speaker 3: I'll shut you down, man, that'll do it. That'll do it.
Speaker 3: You fix that before you ever see me steping foot
Speaker 3: in there.
Speaker 1: And they like make you pay for guests and everything,
Speaker 1: like I don't know what they're on.
Speaker 2: It's not like a free thing.
Speaker 1: It's not like, oh you should just you just be
Speaker 1: happy you have a place.
Speaker 2: It's like, no, the card is the fee on the
Speaker 2: car is why I had this?
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me in. What are you talking about?
Speaker 2: It was like a waiting of like bugs and of food.
Speaker 3: That's crazy. Yeah, I'm glad you got out of there
Speaker 3: when you did. That was like what a week ago?
Speaker 2: Two weeks ago, two weeks ago. Yeah, we're in New
Speaker 2: Orleans right now.
Speaker 3: That's right. You did say you're in New Orleans. So
Speaker 3: you're in a cafe do Moon right now?
Speaker 2: No, I'm in the up down cafe in the Garden District.
Speaker 2: I was on the street car.
Speaker 1: My phone needed some juice, so I popped in here
Speaker 1: to plug it in, get a little water and relax
Speaker 1: my relax, my gators.
Speaker 3: I hear you, I hear you. There's something else I
Speaker 3: was gonna ask you. Oh so, I know the first
Speaker 3: day you got there, you did a food critique. Is
Speaker 3: that something that we've got to look forward to the
Speaker 3: entire time? You're gonna trying a different food place? Yep,
Speaker 3: every day. I might have missed it last two days,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, food every day.
Speaker 1: Went to Melbour's yesterday, had some wing, chicken wings, mac
Speaker 1: and cheese fries, crinkle cut. Pretty good for like a staple,
Speaker 1: you know, like a run through it.
Speaker 2: Go to the window, grab some food. You know.
Speaker 1: Crystal Hot sauce I think was founded here in New Orleans,
Speaker 1: which I love Crystal Hot sauce.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, shout out to the know you man, that's
Speaker 3: what that's what the family is man, It's all good.
Speaker 3: Go get you a drive through Dacri at some point. No, yeah,
Speaker 3: definitely not. I don't think you can get those in
Speaker 3: the French quarters. Well you can get daker in the
Speaker 3: French quarter, but the dray they like you go into
Speaker 3: the city. Yeah, they got to drive through doakeries like
Speaker 3: they got Burger king.
Speaker 2: That's crazy, it's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like it's crazy. I got that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they said, oh no, the only way you can
Speaker 1: do this is the drink and dry.
Speaker 2: That's the only way this worked.
Speaker 3: It's been it's been four or five years since I've
Speaker 3: been there. That was last time when I saw the
Speaker 3: drive th I'm not sure they's still up, but I'm
Speaker 3: I'm assuming they are. They've been there forever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw them.
Speaker 1: I mean I walked past them. They definitely still exist.
Speaker 1: I'm just not going I'm just not interested in going in.
Speaker 1: I went to this place called the La Petite Grocery today.
Speaker 1: For those who are subscribing, full review is on the Instagram.
Speaker 1: But I would just say it was incredible. It was
Speaker 1: one of the better meals I've had in a long
Speaker 1: long time.
Speaker 3: I ain't gotta lie to you. I gotta subscribe. I'm slipping.
Speaker 3: That's my bad. Got it.
Speaker 1: If my own mama can subscribe on the fixed income,
Speaker 1: you can.
Speaker 3: I'm subscribing. I just hadn't even thought about it, but yeah,
Speaker 3: I gotta. I gotta subscribe to my girlth TK. All right, Trista,
Speaker 3: you know this is crazy. All right? So let's where
Speaker 3: we're the home or we're not. I shouldn't say that
Speaker 3: we're Sacramento. You know what I mean. We're We're we
Speaker 3: are king centric here. So let's start there. A lot
Speaker 3: of people thought me and James Hamm were fighting yesterday.
Speaker 3: We weren't. But James ham is anti Zach Lavine, as
Speaker 3: you guys saw by my unethical basketball team that Trista
Speaker 3: put together. Oh, Zach wasn't on there, and I let
Speaker 3: her know about that. I am pro Zach Levine. Sounds
Speaker 3: like you might be anti Zach Lavine.
Speaker 1: I think what my issue with Zach is is like,
Speaker 1: do you really trust that what we're seeing this year
Speaker 1: is what we're gonna see moving forward from him? And
Speaker 1: he's had an excellent year, but it's also like the
Speaker 1: last resort for Zach. Right, we know that when last
Speaker 1: came around, they shut him down early. There was all
Speaker 1: these reports about his attitude with the team. He remember
Speaker 1: he pushed the PR girl when she tried to stop
Speaker 1: him from doing something, and so like, Zach kind of
Speaker 1: just is not a He's not like a commensurate player
Speaker 1: for winning, right, He's not the guy you think of
Speaker 1: the lift you up, piece of certified bucket getter, and
Speaker 1: the type of buckets he takes are are sometimes really
Speaker 1: tough ones. His efficiency, like you said on your Kids,
Speaker 1: since the trade went down.
Speaker 2: His efficiency has been awesome.
Speaker 1: I just don't know for the money and really what
Speaker 1: the consistency looks like for Zach, whether that's the kind
Speaker 1: of guy I will want to trade for.
Speaker 2: Right now, I get that this team needs.
Speaker 1: A sort of pets things together on the fly, right
Speaker 1: like this was. This was not necessarily what the plan
Speaker 1: was going into the season. And you can't just up
Speaker 1: and rebuild. You've got Sabonus, you got Keegan Murray, you
Speaker 1: have pieces on here that don't want you to start
Speaker 1: rebuilding all over again. For the amount of money that
Speaker 1: Zach is getting paid though, for that to be the
Speaker 1: only piece you get back, and essentially you're only getting
Speaker 1: one good first round pick, which is the Minnesota Timberwolves
Speaker 1: twenty thirty one pick. The twenty twenty seven San Antonio
Speaker 1: pick is not gonna be very good at all. They're
Speaker 1: gonna be a probably top five team in the West,
Speaker 1: so I don't know what that's about. And then the
Speaker 1: Charlotte twenty twenty five pick, I forgot early on that
Speaker 1: that was top fourteen protected, so that's not even gonna
Speaker 1: be a first round pick.
Speaker 2: You might as well just.
Speaker 1: Call that two seconds. So it's two firsts and five seconds.
Speaker 1: And I just don't really know if that's what a
Speaker 1: Deer and Fox hall should bring when mckel Bridges, who
Speaker 1: I don't think is as good as Deer and Fox.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: I know that wings are more valuable in the league
Speaker 1: than point guards are, and just guards in general. But
Speaker 1: five first round picks for Michael Bridges and you get
Speaker 1: two first round picks in Zach Lavine and you don't
Speaker 1: get any other players to contribute when you need depths
Speaker 1: on this team.
Speaker 2: I just didn't so a.
Speaker 3: Couple of things. I want to put a stamp in
Speaker 3: Zach Levine real quick because I want to ask you
Speaker 3: something about that or just talk to you about something
Speaker 3: the Mike kel Bridges thing. I think that's a little
Speaker 3: bit of an outlier. Yeah, because the Knicks wanted Mike
Speaker 3: l and Brooklyn was like, all right, we'll trade you,
Speaker 3: but you're not You're not getting regular market rate, Like
Speaker 3: it's gonna we gonna hit you over the head if
Speaker 3: you want to do this, And the Knicks said, all right,
Speaker 3: let's do it. And I think that's when you talk
Speaker 3: about the picks and the compensation there, I think that
Speaker 3: played a wrong. Now, that is the part of the
Speaker 3: trade that I wasn't thrilled about. What the is the
Speaker 3: assets and the draft picks they got back. I'm not
Speaker 3: saying you have to get the Atlanta picked, that San
Speaker 3: Antonio house or anything, but like, man, he couldn't get
Speaker 3: a little bit. You know better than that when you
Speaker 3: talk about the draft picks. But I'll ask you. You
Speaker 3: talk to a lot of people, and I think he
Speaker 3: can go. I think I think he's the truth when
Speaker 3: you talk about deer Fox. But do you think he
Speaker 3: was His value around the league doesn't match up with
Speaker 3: what maybe Kings fans and people who follow the team
Speaker 3: think his value should be.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's should I go out. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go outside.
Speaker 1: Really, where the where the it's a little bit better
Speaker 1: volume here, Okay, I.
Speaker 3: Mean we hear you good, but now we got the shad,
Speaker 3: so it's all good kind of it's not loud. This
Speaker 3: is free content too. By the way, you don't always
Speaker 3: get this content, you know, you usually got to go subscribe.
Speaker 3: But now we're getting a nice little it looks a
Speaker 3: little overcast out there, looks a little overcast.
Speaker 2: Sev seventy five.
Speaker 3: No, it's all good. It's all good.
Speaker 2: Then, it's all good. It's all good. It's like seventy
Speaker 2: two humidity. Is this better?
Speaker 3: It's great. It wasn't bad how it was before, So
Speaker 3: that's all yeah. But yes, this is works too.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So I think it's hard to know what Deeron Fox's
Speaker 1: value is on the open market because there was only
Speaker 1: one team that that Sacramento negotiated with, and that was
Speaker 1: what kind of pissed me off, is like, what could
Speaker 1: you get from Houston, What could you get from Miami,
Speaker 1: What could you get from Orlando?
Speaker 2: What could you get from any team that needs a
Speaker 2: guard right now?
Speaker 1: And Deeran Fox's he's a top twenty player probably in
Speaker 1: the league, top twenty five player in the league. But
Speaker 1: at his best, he's not only a bucket getter, but
Speaker 1: a clutchbucket getter. And I think people are kind of
Speaker 1: being a little bit shady in terms of his three
Speaker 1: point percentage because they say, oh, he's not a good
Speaker 1: three point shooter, but he's improved his three point game
Speaker 1: a lot. So it's hard to say what his value
Speaker 1: is around the league because all they were doing was
Speaker 1: negotiating with san Antonio.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know when when you got the rich
Speaker 3: Pauls and you got the team saying, hey, like we're
Speaker 3: only going to san Antonio. Letting that be known around
Speaker 3: the league, I don't know how much you would get.
Speaker 3: That also maybe takes away from his true value, right
Speaker 3: Like if it was a true open market, maybe you
Speaker 3: could get you know, somebody better than Zach Lavine. But
Speaker 3: when the market is stunted by him, you know, only
Speaker 3: wanting to go to a certain place. And the other
Speaker 3: thing about it was we saw this team on you know,
Speaker 3: Tuesday and on Saturday, and how they looked distracted and dishoveled.
Speaker 3: It's like, oh man, I'm not trying to do this
Speaker 3: for another forty games, forty five games. You kind of
Speaker 3: had to get him out of there, so they were
Speaker 3: kind of up against it. I believe in trying to
Speaker 3: make a deal, and I actually think they did a
Speaker 3: good job getting a guy like zach Lavine when you
Speaker 3: consider they were kind of putting the crunch the way
Speaker 3: they were.
Speaker 2: But think about this outside of a salary matching component.
Speaker 2: The Bulls last year were willing to attach a first
Speaker 2: round pick to takes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry. The people in the background selling you, hi,
Speaker 3: young lady in the background, how you doing this is
Speaker 3: ESBN thirteen twenty. No, this is hilarious. This is great.
Speaker 3: I love New Orleans. I love New Orleans.
Speaker 2: Sorry she was in the mix?
Speaker 3: Was she?
Speaker 2: She was in the mix?
Speaker 3: But no, so so I thought they did pretty good
Speaker 3: to get a zach Lavine back. But but you just but.
Speaker 2: You got distracted by the cute little girl.
Speaker 1: But the Chicago Bulls were willing to attach your first
Speaker 1: round pick just to take zach Lavine.
Speaker 2: That's one first round pick for that. So what did
Speaker 2: you really get?
Speaker 1: So you got one first round pick for for de
Speaker 1: Aaron Fox if that's how it all ended up shaking out,
Speaker 1: and five second round picks. I know the second round
Speaker 1: picks are getting more and more valuable in the league.
Speaker 1: If you can find like a good a good GM
Speaker 1: to be able to call through those assets and get.
Speaker 2: The kind of guy that you want.
Speaker 1: And obviously that's like, that's critical if you're going to
Speaker 1: try to package picks.
Speaker 2: Together to get somebody.
Speaker 1: But I don't think Zach Lavine was When we spoke
Speaker 1: last last week, Kenny, you said, if it wasn't Devin
Speaker 1: Vessel and Steph Castle, you were it was unacceptable. Now
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, we got people sort of trying
Speaker 1: to like rationalize that this.
Speaker 2: Is a good trade.
Speaker 3: Know what happened was I saw I saw them play Tuesday,
Speaker 3: and I saw them play Saturday, and I said, this
Speaker 3: team is da as is like, so, so here's what
Speaker 3: you want, Like I don't necessarily want to go into
Speaker 3: the doldrums this year, like still try to make the playoffs,
Speaker 3: like try to compete. I think that's how the organization
Speaker 3: is looking at it. Like you've got a responsibility to
Speaker 3: Malik Monk, who just signed with you. You got a responsibility
Speaker 3: to Marta Rows, and you got a responsibility to DeMont
Speaker 3: to Sabonas who signed an extension and more importantly, you
Speaker 3: got a responsibility to all these people that you up
Speaker 3: the season ticket prices to like a like forty five
Speaker 3: percent this year, to not say, hey, oh, out of nowhere,
Speaker 3: Dearreon don't want to be here, so we're gonna go
Speaker 3: try and get Cooper flag. You got a responsibility to
Speaker 3: these people. So you saw it, well, she agrees. So
Speaker 3: you saw how they played on Tuesday, right after we spoke,
Speaker 3: and then you saw how they played on Saturday, and
Speaker 3: this team was dead. And at that point it was like,
Speaker 3: all right, you gotta kind of adjust a little bit.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna take anything. If we can't get Stefan
Speaker 3: Castle or Devin Vasel, go talk to Chicago. Cuse, get
Speaker 3: me a zach Lavine or go talk to a zach
Speaker 3: Lavine type. It didn't have to necessarily be him, but
Speaker 3: I had to get somebody back to replace a lot
Speaker 3: of what Daran was giving you, at the very least
Speaker 3: on the offensive end moving forward. But you're right, I
Speaker 3: did say that before, but that was after saying this
Speaker 3: this team is dead with Fox on the roster for
Speaker 3: another forty games, Like, I don't want to live that life.
Speaker 3: So he switched up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he switched up fast.
Speaker 3: Did you see them play on Saturday night? I switched
Speaker 3: up after the first scored. I was like, nah, this
Speaker 3: is done. Can't do this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's the thing that I'm really I posted
Speaker 1: this last night, I think it was last night yesterday.
Speaker 1: I just find it to be very disrespectful how he's going.
Speaker 2: Out, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And and the farewell letter of oh I always
Speaker 1: wanted to end my career here. I never thought it
Speaker 1: would end this way, you know, fans, I just want
Speaker 1: to let you know.
Speaker 2: I'm so grateful for you.
Speaker 1: First of all, compare that to Kavon's letter, Like Kvons
Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, okay. It's like the difference between
Speaker 1: a guy who breaks up with his girlfriend and tries
Speaker 1: to convince the girlfriend she broke up with him and
Speaker 1: a guy and a guy who gets broken up with
Speaker 1: and tries to convince her like that he broke up
Speaker 1: with her and he started you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of people got it picked up on
Speaker 3: the wording.
Speaker 1: On the wording there, it was like, well, if you
Speaker 1: wanted to spend your whole career there, why are you
Speaker 1: selling Why are you out there on the basketball court
Speaker 1: not giving your all, why did you hire Clutch Sports
Speaker 1: to begin with, which is notable for squeezing franchises. Why
Speaker 1: did you make this contentious?
Speaker 2: Why are you.
Speaker 1: Pretending you did not say, hey, get me up out
Speaker 1: of here. Why it didn't have to be this way,
Speaker 1: It didn't have to be so toxic so fast. And
Speaker 1: I think when you look at how he was to
Speaker 1: this franchise and what we all thought twelve months ago
Speaker 1: it would be and could be, well maybe a little
Speaker 1: more than twelve months ago the start of last season,
Speaker 1: and what he did against the Warriors with a broken finger,
Speaker 1: it just went left so fast, and he's he and
Speaker 1: Clutch are responsible for it going left, like very in
Speaker 1: terms of how he handled it. Now.
Speaker 2: I don't think that the Kings have.
Speaker 1: Surrounded him with maybe as much as he would want,
Speaker 1: And Kenny, you've been very clear that like, how much
Speaker 1: more do you want? But if they're telling him that
Speaker 1: they're gonna do X, Y or Z and they don't,
Speaker 1: there's a reason to be frustrated there if they can't
Speaker 1: get deals done and he feels like they can't get
Speaker 1: him done and he's getting the Dame treatment.
Speaker 2: Where neil O'Shea was like, oh, we're gonna get CJ.
Speaker 1: McCollum and and not like a high value Marquee player
Speaker 1: to be alongside him as a co star. But they
Speaker 1: went and got DeMar de Rosen and that wasn't exactly the.
Speaker 2: Most clean fit. That was somebody that was on the
Speaker 2: market that they could go out and persuade to come there.
Speaker 1: But he has a responsibility to live honorably and to
Speaker 1: come and show up honorably, just as we hate Nico
Speaker 1: Harrison for what.
Speaker 2: He did to Luca, like, I think.
Speaker 1: That the onus and the responsibility should go on on
Speaker 1: Deer in terms of how he acted on way out too.
Speaker 3: I agree. And this happened when I'm with Damien. I'm
Speaker 3: not gonna involve I'm not gonna involve anybody. I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna speak about nobody or nothing like that. But there
Speaker 3: were when when.
Speaker 2: No, I know there were other factors involved.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But what I'm gonna say is there were tweets
Speaker 3: that were put out there that were, you know, trying
Speaker 3: to kind of say like, oh, no, I don't know
Speaker 3: what you're talking about. Nothing that ever happened. We didn't
Speaker 3: ask for he didn't ask for anything. YadA, yah yah.
Speaker 3: You combine that with the goodbye letter and the wording
Speaker 3: and there. And my thought was like, hey, stop playing
Speaker 3: with us, man, Like, stop playing with us, Like we
Speaker 3: don't know what we were seeing, what we were hearing,
Speaker 3: what people were telling you. Guys were telling people like
Speaker 3: stop playing Like if you if you wanted to go,
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna look at you crazy, because like you said,
Speaker 3: he has reasons because of being you know, lied to
Speaker 3: or not being able to get it. Like fine, that's
Speaker 3: the reason, but don't mind us, and don't play with
Speaker 3: us right now and say, oh we we wish we
Speaker 3: would have been here forever. Nobody was telling you to leave.
Speaker 3: What are you talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you had the opportunity to sign for the same
Speaker 1: amount is you're going to sign anywhere else. You didn't
Speaker 1: make all NBA, and so that caused you to think
Speaker 1: about your life and your future. And maybe you're going
Speaker 1: to Texas because there's no state tax. Maybe you're going
Speaker 1: there for family reasons, to be.
Speaker 2: Closer to where you grew up, closer to.
Speaker 1: Where your family is on both sides of the aisle there,
Speaker 1: and that that's fine, like you have that you have
Speaker 1: that choice, that's that's up to you. But don't lie
Speaker 1: about it, don't don't sell on the court and play poor, poorly,
Speaker 1: or not give your full effort and tell us that
Speaker 1: you're not trying to leave and that we're getting it
Speaker 1: all wrong. That's just that's to me, puts a sour
Speaker 1: taste in the fans' mouth. And you've been there too
Speaker 1: long to do that to the fans.
Speaker 3: That's all. That's always saying. One last thing that I
Speaker 3: want to say about Zach Levine, which maybe maybe I'm
Speaker 3: a maybe I'm just a sucker for a good story
Speaker 3: or something like that. But he had his issues, you know,
Speaker 3: previously in his career, whether it's injury, attitude, all this
Speaker 3: other stuff. I posted the other day on Twitter, and
Speaker 3: I remember when this happened. I remember when I saw
Speaker 3: this on media day, his media day talk like nobody
Speaker 3: asked him a question and he had this long talk
Speaker 3: about you know, I did some soul search. What you said?
Speaker 3: What's good? What's good?
Speaker 2: Do you hear that bumping?
Speaker 3: Is that tweaker?
Speaker 2: Do you If you had to guess what car that
Speaker 2: was coming out of? What would you guess?
Speaker 3: I would say.
Speaker 1: A like an old school That's what I would say
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 2: That is not the case.
Speaker 3: It's a bug. What is a bug? A beetle? It's
Speaker 3: a beetle. If that was coming it sound like they
Speaker 3: were playing a tweaker. They were playing a little jello
Speaker 3: coming out of there.
Speaker 2: That's crazy, that is insane.
Speaker 1: And Buddy came out in the car and not looking
Speaker 1: like he drives a beetle coming out like.
Speaker 3: Go oh, man, never judge the book by his covery.
Speaker 3: You got it, can't do it?
Speaker 1: No, you never know in these streets back to media
Speaker 1: day and the good story go ahead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, So Zach talked about Look, man, I had
Speaker 3: to do some soul searching and I had to look
Speaker 3: in the mirror, and you know, I want the past
Speaker 3: to be the past. I'm moving forward in a positive direction.
Speaker 3: And I only bring that up because he's done that,
Speaker 3: like he has done that since then, and he's played
Speaker 3: that way. He's handled himself as a professional like he
Speaker 3: said he would. And do you think it's it's possible
Speaker 3: that maybe he has turned a different turn over a
Speaker 3: new leaf in his career and this is the way
Speaker 3: he is going to be moving forward.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's definitely possible. What I'll say about
Speaker 1: Zach is you're right. He came in from the off
Speaker 1: season and realized I could languish here in Chicago. I
Speaker 1: could just spend the restless contract becoming a joke, sitting
Speaker 1: on the bench, because Chicago wants to have a development
Speaker 1: situation with all their young guys. If they can't trade
Speaker 1: me and they don't feel like they can boost my.
Speaker 2: Stock, then what am I even really doing there?
Speaker 1: And then you get into a situation if your contract
Speaker 1: is over and you've been playing that way or not
Speaker 1: playing much at all, or in a diminished role, and
Speaker 1: oh no, and no, there we go, and now your
Speaker 1: contract moving forward?
Speaker 2: Now your contract?
Speaker 3: What does he saying, don't know what is he talking about? Well,
Speaker 3: don't say that, because then he gonna know that.
Speaker 1: You listen, it's not my business.
Speaker 3: He said, what you want over here? Hey, look you
Speaker 3: want some of that grab over there?
Speaker 1: Dad?
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, look at that girl in the white shirt day.
Speaker 1: So I think he had a wake up call. But
Speaker 1: I think the good thing is that he knows that
Speaker 1: the Sacramento Kings as a whole when he was his hottest,
Speaker 1: when he was in the crossroads of his career for
Speaker 1: a contract, the.
Speaker 2: Sacramento wanted them.
Speaker 1: It's not like a, Oh, we just need the salary match,
Speaker 1: you know, we need to get rid of Deer and Fox.
Speaker 2: It's a fire sale and we want to figure it out.
Speaker 2: It's no we wanted you to begin with.
Speaker 1: So I think there's like a benefit to to that
Speaker 1: situation for him as well.
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna do good out here. Man. I
Speaker 3: don't know what that results in. I don't know if
Speaker 3: means like he can't play a.
Speaker 2: Lick of defense, can he? I think that's cap.
Speaker 3: I think that's cap'sk I think that's cap. I think
Speaker 3: that's overblown. I don't think he's cool.
Speaker 2: Tell me what his defensive rating is right now?
Speaker 3: James went over it yesterday. I think it's like, no,
Speaker 3: I think it's like one sixteen or something like that.
Speaker 3: It's it's uh, it's higher or worse than Foxes, right,
Speaker 3: but yeah, somebody I think it was our guy, Bobby Gerald,
Speaker 3: or maybe it was will Ze. They put out that
Speaker 3: for their career. I think it's better than dearon Fox's
Speaker 3: like and it's like they're the same. It's like one
Speaker 3: fourteen point five to one fourteen point three or something
Speaker 3: like that. I think that I'm not saying he's I'm
Speaker 3: in Thompson, but I think he's not Luca. He's not Luca.
Speaker 2: He's he's Luca.
Speaker 3: He's not Luca. That's caps Luca. He's not Luca. He's
Speaker 3: not Luca. But that's Luca.
Speaker 2: Can sometimes put his body into people.
Speaker 3: This big body. That's a big, big body, a big body.
Speaker 3: Let's go there, man, because this is this is crazy.
Speaker 3: This is this is still crazy. Three four days later,
Speaker 3: this is still crazy Luca getting traded to the Lakers.
Speaker 3: Did you ever think there was any world that this
Speaker 3: would have happened like now, like before he signed the extension,
Speaker 3: like maybe later in his career, but now, did you
Speaker 3: think there was ever any world?
Speaker 1: Remember when Mark Cuban said, if it was between me,
Speaker 1: Luca and my wife, I'm serving her up divorce papers.
Speaker 2: That's what That's what he said.
Speaker 1: So I never thought the MAVs would want to get
Speaker 1: rid of somebody who is so marketable internationally and for
Speaker 1: the city of Dallas, a guy who just took you
Speaker 1: to the finals last year.
Speaker 2: And I don't really care that he's fat. I don't care.
Speaker 2: He doesn't look that fat.
Speaker 1: Actually he's a big guy, and yeah, he's not shredded
Speaker 1: that's that's not gonna probably ever be him.
Speaker 2: He's not going to be built like Lebron James.
Speaker 1: But he can get you thirty fifteen and ten on
Speaker 1: any given night, right, and he can put a team
Speaker 1: on their back and score sixteen in a row and
Speaker 1: dig you out of a deficit, win games. He's single
Speaker 1: handedly probably won three playoff games last last playoffs himself, right,
Speaker 1: like that forty two point game he had game against
Speaker 1: Minnesota Timberwolves with that step back, like he had.
Speaker 2: Some more key moments. So no, I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 2: imagine that that would happen.
Speaker 1: I did know that they were frustrated by him, and
Speaker 1: I guess I get that. But it does feel a
Speaker 1: little personal. It feels like Nico Harrison if you sort
Speaker 1: of dig into how things went over time, players that
Speaker 1: Luca loved playing with that he just got rid of
Speaker 1: players that Luca wanted that they would not go out
Speaker 1: and get and then they just like got Monty Morris instead.
Speaker 1: It's like you, why don't you try at least to
Speaker 1: keep Luca happy?
Speaker 2: I don't know, and to do it for.
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, who if you have questions about durability and
Speaker 1: you have questions about availability, and I know Anthony Davis
Speaker 1: has been awesome and available a lot, despite the fact
Speaker 1: that he's not available right now for the last eighteen months.
Speaker 2: He's not a particularly durable dude. He's they call him Anthony.
Speaker 2: There is no Luca.
Speaker 1: Nickname that shows that he's never on the court. It's
Speaker 1: Anthony day to day Davis. It's skin of paper, bones
Speaker 1: of glass like that is. Those are names that people
Speaker 1: have given Anthony Davis.
Speaker 2: We don't have any of those names for Luca.
Speaker 3: We have one of them.
Speaker 2: Beat what Tubby called fat Luca.
Speaker 1: Fat Luca, Okay, but he's on the court being fat,
Speaker 1: giving you thirteen fifteen and ten thirty fifteen in ten.
Speaker 3: Huka. That is another.
Speaker 1: Yea, who ka don They said he better he should
Speaker 1: He had to have smelled like bad decisions, hookah and
Speaker 1: cigarette smoke like.
Speaker 2: I don't care if Luca is out there with the
Speaker 2: blunt in his.
Speaker 1: Mouth, like you keep Luca there the level. I don't
Speaker 1: care if they go to the finals this year and
Speaker 1: beat Boston or whoever comes out of the East. I
Speaker 1: don't think you ever get the love back from the fans.
Speaker 2: I just don't think they're.
Speaker 1: Gonna forgive you you get the excitement that Luca provides
Speaker 1: on a night to night basis for the next ten
Speaker 1: to fifteen years. That being ripped away before his Supermax
Speaker 1: extension and costing them him one hundred and sixteen million
Speaker 1: dollars when he had no intention to leave and wanted
Speaker 1: to spend his entire career there.
Speaker 3: That's tough.
Speaker 2: I don't know how they allow it. I really don't
Speaker 2: know how this was allowed.
Speaker 3: Nah, that's tough. That's tough. I was telling the homie
Speaker 3: the other day. You can't if you signed Luca to
Speaker 3: the extension and he's just out of shape and he's
Speaker 3: it's just bad. I don't think you can get fired
Speaker 3: for that. You can get fired for trading him. Is
Speaker 3: as simple as that. Like, if you're looking for job security,
Speaker 3: like Harrison's gonna get fired. Who thinks he's gonna make
Speaker 3: it in the next five years?
Speaker 1: Not me? And also, what I do think is pretty
Speaker 1: shady is for people who don't know a lot about
Speaker 1: Nico Harrison. So, Nico came up through Nike. He was
Speaker 1: a VP of basketball operations. His number one signature athlete.
Speaker 2: Forever was Kobe. He and Kobe were thickest thieves. They
Speaker 2: were peas and carrots.
Speaker 1: So that was like where he sort of built his
Speaker 1: entire career in the basketball space. And Rob Plinka, the
Speaker 1: GM of the Lakers, Kobe Bryant's former agent. So you
Speaker 1: mean to tell me that you're just gonna give your
Speaker 1: guy like a good buddy deal and not tell anybody
Speaker 1: about it. When he was the most coveted They called
Speaker 1: him the most untouchable player in the league outside of
Speaker 1: maybe I don't know Yannis, but even Jannis has had
Speaker 1: some friction with the Bucks. And then you're just like, hey,
Speaker 1: you the way he said it too, Like we were
Speaker 1: just chilling over a coffee and I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: would you want Lucay, Like would you would you maybe
Speaker 1: want Luke? Yes? I do, yes, and not not to
Speaker 1: allow the open market to give you multiple PI and
Speaker 1: multiple players, and like, you want Anthony Davis, Anthony thirty
Speaker 1: one year old Anthony Davis. That was the guy that
Speaker 1: you thought above anyone else in the league because you
Speaker 1: probably could have had anybody outside of maybe Sga and
Speaker 1: Wemby and maybe honest, outside of those three, you could
Speaker 1: probably have anybody else you wanted and picks, and you
Speaker 1: were like, no, it's Anthony Davis or nothing.
Speaker 3: For me, fire Wolf Fence. I ain't gonna lie to you.
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie to you, man, TK go back,
Speaker 3: enjoy some Beignet's, enjoy all the There's no green in
Speaker 3: New Orleans. It's all brown fried fruit.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: I had a bunch of green, had a nice green
Speaker 2: salad today.
Speaker 3: Well maybe I'm just not looking for it when I'm there.
Speaker 2: You're not looking for it.
Speaker 3: That's that's it, man, And go get some uh some
Speaker 3: dakers at the drive through spot. That's what.
Speaker 2: Love y'all.
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