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Speaker 1: I just wanted to hear your thoughts on Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 1: Uh what he has to do to win the job permanently.

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Speaker 1: The Eagles roster is sacked and now on both sides.

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Speaker 1: You're not in any rush to make a move. You

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Speaker 1: be really really bad. Like, like I've said over and over,

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Speaker 1: like this is the year for the Jets to kind

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Speaker 1: of like, you know, shouldn't get off the pot, like

428
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Speaker 1: let's let's do something, like you can't just always be

429
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Speaker 1: three four wins and having all these draft picks. You know,

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Speaker 1: I like Joe Douglas. I don't know him personally, but

431
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Speaker 1: everyone I know that likes him, that that has worked

432
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Speaker 1: with him likes him. But like he's had a lot

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Speaker 1: of picks. Now, you hire Robert Salo like their defense

434
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Speaker 1: was a joke last year. Like, Robert, you're a defensive guy.

435
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Speaker 1: I'm not a huge fan when I hire young guys

436
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Speaker 1: like I like them to be the coordinator like Robert

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Speaker 1: you're the defensive coordinator, be the defensive coordinator with with

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Speaker 1: the Jets, like when we hire McVeigh and Shanahan and

439
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Speaker 1: the floor they call the place, So I'm hiring you

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Speaker 1: and then you're not calling the place and your defense sucks.

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Speaker 1: Like I I get your row leader guy, and I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm pro sala, but you can't be this young, you know,

443
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Speaker 1: head coach and not call the place for your side

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Speaker 1: of the ball, like like I'm not looking just for

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Speaker 1: the CEO head coach. I like the guy to influence

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Speaker 1: the game, and like at least Mike McDaniel, who was

447
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Speaker 1: also a Kyle guy, is going to call the place.

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Speaker 1: You know. I'm out on the Patriots. I just now

449
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Speaker 1: when I say I don't think they are two win team,

450
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Speaker 1: but they're they're not making the playoffs. Two of my

451
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Speaker 1: brothers showed me and I love the pod. My question

452
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Speaker 1: is what do you think the Vikings A lot of

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Speaker 1: Vikings love here. Do you think Cousins can get the

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Speaker 1: Vikings there? Or is he seiling not that high talking

455
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Speaker 1: about the Super Bowl? Is the defensive problem? Seems like

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Speaker 1: they should have always You could argue what the figured

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Speaker 1: out with the Packers once we see how they look

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Speaker 1: without Davante, and I know we've seen him before. I

459
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Speaker 1: think their record was actually pretty good when he didn't play.

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Speaker 1: But like, if if Kevin O'Connell is good, like if

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Speaker 1: he's just a lafleur a McVeigh like in that kind

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Speaker 1: of realm, like he's that good of a head coach,

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Speaker 1: they can win the division. They could, but I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: bet on them doing it super Bowl. I would say, no,

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Speaker 1: you seem to have a decent, decent understanding of the economy.

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Speaker 1: Any podcast recommendations you have for someone who barely knows

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Speaker 1: what a four oh one k is? Thanks, I say

468
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Speaker 1: it all the time. I mean, my go to is

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Speaker 1: the Compound. Josh Brown's c NBC guy. He does a podcast.

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Speaker 1: He does a YouTube show on Tuesday. Uh, they have

471
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Speaker 1: Animal Spirits which comes out on Wednesday, which is a

472
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Speaker 1: couple of his like worker guys, Michael and Ben. They're

473
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Speaker 1: pretty good. And then he does another one on Friday.

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Speaker 1: That's where I get. That's the financial podcast I listened to.

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Speaker 1: I think it's fantastic because it's not you know, all

476
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Speaker 1: in with sham Off and all the v C guys.

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Speaker 1: In Palo Alto. They tend and listen. Part of the

478
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Speaker 1: economy is always tied to politics, but I'm not looking

479
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Speaker 1: like I'm not. I don't want to hear about politics

480
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Speaker 1: on my financial shows, and I understand that they are

481
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Speaker 1: directly correlated, so sometimes it's unavoidable. But I like a

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Speaker 1: money show. I like talking the stock market, like talking

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Speaker 1: the real estate market. I like talking that stuff without

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Speaker 1: going too deep. And sometimes all in those guys do

485
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Speaker 1: talk a lot of politics, which is just It's just

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Speaker 1: sometimes I'm not vibing. I don't want to. It just

487
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Speaker 1: gets so negative. Everyone starts arguing. So I would go

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Speaker 1: Josh Brown the compound big fan. First Off, you're absolutely

489
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Speaker 1: correct with your take about the bubble. No fan championships

490
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Speaker 1: see uh, Dodgers and Lakers get asterix, while Tampa also

491
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Speaker 1: gets one in my opinion, although as a Chargers fan,

492
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Speaker 1: it was awesome to actually have home games where a

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Speaker 1: majority of the fans weren't for the other team. Second,

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Speaker 1: is it a slight rebuff to your Brandon Staley takes?

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Speaker 1: Although I was screaming at the fourth down from what

496
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Speaker 1: felt like our own end zone, at least he was

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Speaker 1: going for it from o seven to two thousand twenty,

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Speaker 1: we had North Turner, Mike McCoy, and Anthony Lynn. I

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Speaker 1: can't tell you who was the best. Turner had the

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Speaker 1: most postseason appearances, but Lynn had a better presence in

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Speaker 1: my opinion, I agree. I actually see Anthony Lynn out

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Speaker 1: of practice. He does Anthony Lyn's gut a little swagg

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Speaker 1: to him and he's a He's a big dude, man.

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Speaker 1: But I can tell you I was happy the day

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Speaker 1: Gutless McCoy was fired. All three of those coaches felt

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Speaker 1: basic in scheme, and with Staley, I feel like our

507
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Speaker 1: team has got a little something extra to bring. I

508
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Speaker 1: don't disagree with you again. I am pro I've said

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Speaker 1: this forever. The the the analytical academic elites love claiming

510
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Speaker 1: like going for it is there, like they get to

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Speaker 1: claim that for the chart in the history of the

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Speaker 1: sport of football from the seventies till now, whether you

513
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Speaker 1: went to Harvard or a plumber watching the game on

514
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Speaker 1: your couch, you want your team to go for it

515
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Speaker 1: like no one is for kicking field goals when you

516
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Speaker 1: when it's fourth and one in a big spot. But

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Speaker 1: he was reckless with his decisions. The one on Thursday

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Speaker 1: Night Football against the Chiefs, the play against the Raiders

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Speaker 1: that you mentioned like it was insane, but I I'm

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Speaker 1: with you. I want my coach to have some balls,

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Speaker 1: some stones. But you also like there's a time and

522
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Speaker 1: a place right to make smart decisions. And I thought

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Speaker 1: Brandon Staley like jumped the shark on that one. My

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Speaker 1: other issue with Staley is not and again, none of

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Speaker 1: the ships ever personal. Most of these guys like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know this guy. I know some people that work

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Speaker 1: with them that said know he could be a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a note it all, and then I see

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Speaker 1: him talk and I feel I feel like he's kind

530
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Speaker 1: of playing the media. So it's like, you know, I

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Speaker 1: get kind of Russell Wilson vibes. And at least Russell

532
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Speaker 1: Wilson has accomplished a lot in the league. This guy

533
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Speaker 1: has been in the league since two thousand and seventeen.

534
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Speaker 1: So you know, a lot of these guys, especially these

535
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Speaker 1: young coaches like Robert Solo, La Fleur McVeigh, these guys

536
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Speaker 1: had decade plus of experience in the league. This guy

537
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Speaker 1: is kind of new, and I just thought, and his

538
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Speaker 1: team's really good. He had a top five quarterback and

539
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Speaker 1: he lost the Raiders to get into the playoffs. Sorry

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Speaker 1: for the little rant. My my question regards Herbert. The

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Speaker 1: Chargers had a lot of drop balls this last season.

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Speaker 1: Do you think this is because Herbert looks like he

543
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Speaker 1: just throws fastballs all day long? Thanks? Well, it is

544
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Speaker 1: much harder to throw a ball that's you know, it's

545
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Speaker 1: like it's like a fastball, right, It's harder to hit

546
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Speaker 1: a hunter mile o our fastball than it is a

547
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Speaker 1: ninety two mile o our fastball. I said. The reason that, like,

548
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Speaker 1: you know, out Philip Rivers for example, and Peyton Manning,

549
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Speaker 1: like they threw a very interceptible ball when it was

550
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Speaker 1: off because it wasn't going that hard. I remember, you

551
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Speaker 1: know Kaepernick used to throw and Michael Vick was a

552
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Speaker 1: little bit this way too, Like even if they were inaccurate,

553
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Speaker 1: if they were throwing the hundred mile in our babies, Like,

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Speaker 1: there's a reason guys play defense and not offense. They

555
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Speaker 1: can't catch, so it's you know, he throws and I saw.

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Speaker 1: I think Keenan Allen, I remember last year, talked about

557
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Speaker 1: it during the week. It was like, ultimately it's on

558
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Speaker 1: me to catch it, right, I'm an NFL player, I

559
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Speaker 1: make fifteen million dollars a year, whether he has an

560
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Speaker 1: absolute cannon, he gotta catch the football. But like I

561
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: remember the stories when I was a kid about Brett Farve,

562
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Speaker 1: like breaking guys fingers, like it fucking sucks, Like I

563
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 1: can't even imagine trying to catch some of these balls.

564
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Speaker 1: How would I start out in podcasts? And do you

565
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Speaker 1: have any tips or topics that would stand out to help?

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Speaker 1: Any advice? Many things? Marcus, Well, if it was a

567
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Speaker 1: good topic, I wouldn't. I just keep itfore myself. I

568
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Speaker 1: would say the number one thing I think people screw

569
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Speaker 1: up with is trying to do stuff for social media

570
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Speaker 1: and they get like they try to be big on Twitter,

571
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Speaker 1: like with their podcast, and they think the top picks

572
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Speaker 1: that are happening there are what Like I just try

573
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Speaker 1: to do topics that my friends and people in my

574
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Speaker 1: real life talk about. I just say what I think

575
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Speaker 1: that the way I'm talking in real life. I don't

576
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Speaker 1: try to you know, I can't. I've talked a bit

577
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Speaker 1: over and over. I can't do the Skip Bayless stephen A.

578
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Speaker 1: Smith thing. I can't fake it. Uh So, just be

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Speaker 1: true to yourself, you know, Just do topics you're excited

580
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Speaker 1: to talk about because if people are gonna listen to you, Like,

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Speaker 1: if I'm not excited to talk about it, then why

582
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Speaker 1: would you be excited to listen to it? Right? You

583
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Speaker 1: come if people that listen to the show want to

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Speaker 1: hear my opinion on something, because you know, if I'm

585
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Speaker 1: talking about it, I'm interested in talking about it, Like

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Speaker 1: there are there are a lot of topics that I

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Speaker 1: just don't do. Why I don't give a ship It

588
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: doesn't matter to me, it might matter to you, And

589
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Speaker 1: if it does, do a podcast on so I would say,

590
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: just do stuff that interests you. Now you also there's

591
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Speaker 1: a balance, like I can't just I can't just talk

592
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Speaker 1: about the Jags and Trent Bulky all day like I

593
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: do have to eventually, you know, there's part of it.

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Speaker 1: This is a business. You know, you do need to

595
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Speaker 1: figure out ways to talk about Aaron Rodgers talk about

596
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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. But I don't go overly out of

597
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Speaker 1: my way to do that. It just happens that it's

598
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Speaker 1: easy to do, like something happens with Mike McCarthy Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: But if you've listened to the the show long enough, like

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Speaker 1: I'm not just playing the hits over and over and over.

601
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Speaker 1: But I also talk a lot about the quarterbacks, to

602
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Speaker 1: talk a lot about the coaches. I talked about the stars.

603
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Speaker 1: I'm also not two into the weeds, you know, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: Some people ask like, you know, as a former scout,

605
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Speaker 1: you don't really now that kind of that bores me.

606
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Speaker 1: I like talking about the stuff that I know the

607
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Speaker 1: majority of human beings can talk. You know, every everyone

608
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Speaker 1: has opinion on Patrick Mahomes, or everyone has opinion on

609
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. No one cares about the right guard play

610
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Speaker 1: for the Dallas Cowboys. Beside die heard Dallas Cowboy fans,

611
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Speaker 1: and you can find that information somewhere. But I'm not

612
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Speaker 1: going to break that down. I actually get more joy,

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Speaker 1: you know. I like talking about the financial aspect of

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Speaker 1: this stuff. That's why I like when the Broncos sold

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Speaker 1: like that interests me as a longtime Jets fan. I

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Speaker 1: have seen these promising drafts before, in young quarterbacks with

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Speaker 1: the potential. What do you think would be considered a

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Speaker 1: successful season this year? Jester listened at five and a

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Speaker 1: half wins. I mean, I'm gonna keep beating this drum.

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Speaker 1: I think they have to get to seven and nine

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Speaker 1: and the quarterbacks gotta show promise. I mean, I see

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Speaker 1: these pictures going viral of his practice, and you know

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Speaker 1: he looks the part. Like you said, they have a

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Speaker 1: million draft picks, like eventually gotta win some games, Like ultimately,

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Speaker 1: the point of this whole thing is to win on

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Speaker 1: Sunday and five if they want. If they hit the

627
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Speaker 1: under on that, that's a disaster. And I would say

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Speaker 1: Robert Salo would be in major, major trouble. They don't

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Speaker 1: need to make the playoffs, but at least be it,

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Speaker 1: Like can we get the Halloween and be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: the Jets a wild card team? Can we say that?

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Speaker 1: Or is that not gonna be possible? As a massive

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Speaker 1: Pats fan, what do you think about Bill's plan for

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Speaker 1: the secondary? Jalen Mills, Dugger, Peppers, mccordy, Miles Bryant, Adrian

635
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: Phillips all have played multiple positions, all have gotten significant

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Speaker 1: playing time in their careers. Given their weak lineback and corps,

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Speaker 1: I'd assume Dugger and Phillips could fill in even as

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Speaker 1: edge players. They have experience and verge. Uh you think

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Speaker 1: this is Bill's master plan, incentivizing other teams to run

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Speaker 1: knowing the rules are bent in a fashion that makes

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Speaker 1: pure coverage almost impossible, and the new goal is just

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Speaker 1: to confuse the old line and quarterback as much as possible.

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Speaker 1: As a former scout, what rule do you see peppers

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Speaker 1: playing in the defense? Love the pod? Well, I I

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Speaker 1: don't think that's necessarily the case. I think you're going

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Speaker 1: up against Josh Allen, who's easily one of the best

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Speaker 1: of weapons, and the Jets draft at a quarterback. Now

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Speaker 1: we don't know if he's any good number two. Overall,

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Speaker 1: it's a passing league, so you need a shipload of

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Speaker 1: dbs because you gotta cover all these guys. You gotta

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Speaker 1: cover Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle like you gotta cover

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Speaker 1: all the guys the Bills have. You gotta cover. I

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Speaker 1: mean every team you play for the most part, like

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Speaker 1: most teams are not Kyle Shanahan. They don't want to

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Speaker 1: run the football. So I think it's more you just

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Speaker 1: need a lot of virtual dbs. You need guys that

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Speaker 1: can cover tight ends. You need guys that can plain

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Speaker 1: in space, and you guys that can play inside, and

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Speaker 1: you guys can play outside, and you guys can tackle

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Speaker 1: in space. I just think Bill values versatility in je

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Speaker 1: role he always has. But I don't think it's necessarily

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Speaker 1: like to try to force teams to run, because ultimately

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Speaker 1: teams will pass. Like you're not forcing Andy Reid to run.

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Speaker 1: He's throwing and you gotta beat them, Like ultimately you

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Speaker 1: know they want Justin Herbert to throw, now Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 1: that that would be if you're playing them. But I

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Speaker 1: think ultimately, I think he's just doing it because you

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Speaker 1: want Ferstal defensive backs. Have a good day. Everybody share

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