1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on Home of the Black and 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back to the Drive. I'm 3 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson. Is a Friday here 4 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh at Steelers are wrapped up their first week 5 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: of O T A S and uh, holiday weekend approaches. Yeah, 6 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: that's not the weather is gonna be wonderful. You know, 7 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: I have golf this morning. I was talking to the 8 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: manager of the golf course the and he's saying that, 9 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: you know, usually Memorial Day weekend is a big weekend 10 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: form and he said, this weekend, the weather is not 11 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: going to cooperate. But you know what, as hot as 12 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: it was like the last you know it was, I 13 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: mean it was hot. I'm watching practice, uh you know, 14 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: Tuesday and Wednesday, and I'm like, oh my god, is 15 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: it hot out here. One of my good buddies is 16 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: gonna have a pool party last weekend and none of 17 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 1: us could do it, or there's a bunch of conflicts whereever. 18 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: He's like, oh, let's get together Momorial Day. We'll go 19 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: two of them. Like it's like chili, Yeah, a little 20 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: chili for that, but one of the pool whatever. Bridge 21 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: there you go. One of the things that happened this 22 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 1: week for the Steelers that was interesting is the fact 23 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: now Tuesday we saw Zack Banner and Devon Bush working 24 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: out with some of the strengthen conditioning people. Get Garrett 25 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: Gamont was there working with him, taking him through some 26 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 1: of the stuff. Uh, yesterday on on Thursday, they actually 27 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: got on the field and did some progress is going 28 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: pretty well, did some drills and and and actually took 29 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: some snaps. Uh. That really, I mean, these are two 30 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: guys the Steelers are counting on. H Yeah, if you 31 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: go around the league, I mean, I don't have a 32 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: ton of examples, but a lot of these guys, you know, 33 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, the guys are coming back from big injuries. 34 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: They're not doing anything this week, you know. So the 35 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: fact that you're out there at all is very very promising. 36 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: It absolutely is. And I did want to get Banner. 37 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: We talked to him yesterday and he had a lot 38 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: of interested with the show, especially talking about that offensive 39 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: line and some of the moves that they're making. Guys 40 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: playing a little bit of a chip on their so 41 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: I hope they kind of take it. I hope they 42 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: read the headlines. Yeah, you know, what I mean and 43 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: take it personally. Yeah, it sounds like they are. So 44 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: let's hear what Zack Banner had to say when he 45 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: spoke to the media yesterday. All Right, everybody, we have 46 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: Zack here, Mr. Reminder to use the razor hand function 47 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 1: and we will we will call on you. This meeting 48 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: is being recorded to new zooming. He continue, that's a 49 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: new thing. It starts telling you, somebody, let's go to 50 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: uh excuse me, let's go to market. Boli. Zach, how 51 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: you doing? Um? How are you? My question is I mean, 52 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: we all saw you out there past couple of days. 53 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: It looks like you're chomping at the bit. I mean, 54 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: I know you don't need to be out there, but 55 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: do you feel that you have to be out there 56 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: because you are? I mean other than day of the 57 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: veteran guy. You want to show leadership? Is that part 58 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: of the reason? Yeah, I haven't. You know, Coach t 59 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: has asked me personally to step up my game and 60 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: all facets of my career, um on and off the field. 61 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: Um I I'm like a dog on the leash right now, 62 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: right like just you know, they keep pulling back, keep 63 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: pulling back. One thing you're not gonna have to tell 64 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: me is to give effort and be there so it's 65 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: not only just for those other guys and to be 66 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: around the team and to get the the visual reps 67 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: for myself because I'm not perfect and we all need 68 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: to get better every day. But at the same time, 69 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: it's also a good thing for myself. Um, just mentally, 70 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: you know, getting through this them pulling at the leash. 71 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: It bugs me, you know what I mean, because I 72 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: feel good feeling better every day. Um. I know the 73 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: overall goal is for the season, but at the same 74 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: time it's it's hard, but it makes it easier when 75 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: you're outside Dale Willy. Hey, Jack, I know when I 76 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: talked to you earlier this year, you said that you know, 77 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: this was about the time where you felt like you'd 78 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: be starting to get back to normal. We we see 79 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 1: you on the field, no knee brace. Same thing with Devin. Um, 80 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: do you feel like you're you're still on target to 81 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: be ready for the start of training camp? Yes, um, 82 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: I really do. And you know, one thing to communicate 83 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: to you guys is remember that leash that they keep 84 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: pulling that So if you see me out there for 85 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: the days, I do have a brace. Right, that's more 86 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: to break in my braces when when I do get going, 87 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 1: you know, because these things feel like rub on knees 88 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: and and it feel a little different on my knee 89 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: itself with the brace. So we really want to work 90 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: that brace. But as for my rehab, as for Bush's rehab, 91 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: our own schedule. But at the same time, if we 92 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: get to camp and they pull a day, you know 93 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: what I mean, they pull a rep, they pull something. 94 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: It's out of protection, you know. And I had to 95 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: kind of get that in my head in this earlier 96 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: stage because I just I'm in the building guy, you know, 97 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: I'm getting here early in the morning when the first 98 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: guys here, Like, it's not to pat myself from the back, 99 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: it's just who I am. So trying to lead by example, 100 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: but also, like I said once again, trying to motivate 101 00:05:53,200 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: myself through my actions every day. Joe Rodder zat what 102 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: are they allowing you to do and maybe not wanting 103 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: you to do yet at this stage of your regal. Yeah, um, 104 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: I would have to say the reps right, like the 105 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: the amount of times I'm coming out of a three 106 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: point stands um, the different types of things that I'm doing. Um, 107 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: it's there's a checklist that none of you have, but 108 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: I have that. Coach Key has a coach Tomlin and 109 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: all the coaches um that checklist. We've been just knocking 110 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: them off, knocking them off. So I'm not going out 111 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: there doing fifty reps right now. You know, if anything 112 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: today with the guys, I actually got one to two. 113 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: But I'm off on the side working myself. And I 114 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: remember the first time we got into this a couple 115 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, into actual football stuff and cutting and 116 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: you know, lateral lateral change of direction. UM. I did 117 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: like thirty five pass sets a couple of weeks ago. 118 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: I've done way more in a day since then. But 119 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: you know, Coach pulls me aside and says, that's hopefully 120 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: a game you know what I mean, that's a game 121 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: of of assets. Um, you know, that's a that's that's 122 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: a realistic look. So that those are the they're they're 123 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: so detailed, they know what they're doing. They've done this 124 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: with amazing players in the past, like Keith Miller. I 125 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: know Keith Miller. A lot of his notes and stuff 126 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: like that, UM are into my rehap and and and 127 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: you guys saw how tremendous he was when he got back. 128 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: So you know, the future looks bright. Jeff Hathor, Hey, Zach, Jeff. 129 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: We heard from Kevin yesterday about coach Klem and the 130 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: attitude and and this mentality that he brings. What can 131 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: you tell us about what that's like and what's maybe 132 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: different with him? He's just like me, right, inner city 133 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: West Coast kid. He's from Inglewood, California. Um, we're built different, 134 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: you know, and how we were raised, how we were coached. Uh, 135 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: and you know him being a player's coach too as well. 136 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: And when you hear that, that's not like a typical 137 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: coach when you say, you know, players like him more. 138 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: He actually played, is what I mean. And um, that 139 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: experience is there. He played. You know, he has a lot, 140 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of rings from from his playing days 141 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: and his mentality. It's not only to get better every 142 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: single day, but to work on the details and hold 143 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: each other accountable. Um. I think those are the biggest 144 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: couple of things. And it's sometimes doesn't look pretty right, 145 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: but we need that. And when I say we need that, 146 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 1: this is the National Football League, Like you know, there's 147 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: there's some guys across on these thirty two teams that 148 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: make ten times as much as their coaches. But when 149 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: you put it into the type of respect level that 150 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: we have for him, we don't have those big heads 151 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: in the room. We don't have those type of egos 152 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: in this room. Everybody in this room wants to be coached. 153 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: Everybody knows the chip that we have on our shoulders 154 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: that we want to play with and m Clem stepping 155 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: up to the plate. I love him for it. He's 156 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: doing a great, great job. Zach Actually going off of that, 157 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: it's perfect timing. I wanted to ask a little bit 158 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: more about coach Clem. How much were you able to 159 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: work with him last year while you were going through 160 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: the A C L twere I mean even just in 161 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: the classroom. And one thing specifically that Kevin mentioned is 162 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: that he uses more aggressive verbiage. You know, instead of 163 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: saying set a block, he's saying and run through guy's 164 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: face things like that. Can you tell a tangible difference 165 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: in how that makes you guys feel and how that 166 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: can translate on the field. We call that necessary violence, 167 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: Brook like it's it's you want to offensive line is 168 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: a is a very tough thing. To love right. We 169 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: don't want to play offensive line. When you're little. You 170 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: want to catch the ball, you want to throw the ball, 171 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: you want to run around. Um, there's that type of 172 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: quote unquote heard. You know, I hurt somebody on purpose, 173 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: But that thug mentality that that we have when we 174 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: put our helmets on, it's still professional, still structured. I 175 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: want to want to reiterate that too, because his professionalism 176 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: is through the roof. But when I look at my 177 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: guys going out in the tunnel, going out anywhere, I'm 178 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: looking at him and what I'm saying, let's f and go. 179 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: And we have that now as a coach. And you 180 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: know a lot of people talk about last year and 181 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: Clem developing. You know guys UM, younger guys like Kevin Dotson, UM, 182 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: other guys who just got here, and even some of 183 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: the vets too. You know, that was that was That's 184 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: something that's missing in his resume that people don't talk about. 185 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: But I mean he's been here for two years and 186 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: you know a lot of people want to talk about 187 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: the film that I put on when I was playing 188 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: Jumbo tight End a couple of years ago. You guys 189 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: got to realize, like the head online coach has a 190 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: lot of things on his plate during the season and 191 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: the postseason. A lot of it is more schematic, A 192 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: lot of it is more, um, don't go get me wrong, 193 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: coaching your overall technique that you want in the room. 194 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: But this the second coach, the assistant coach, gets a 195 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: lot of individual time with the young guys because usually 196 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: they're staying in the back with us right when we're 197 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: out on team or something. So you know, back in 198 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: the day when I was a swing tackle, be in 199 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: the back, we'd be working on foot footwork. We've been 200 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: working on mentality, like you know, that's just that's that 201 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: killer instinct doesn't come naturally for some guys, and sometimes 202 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: that has to be coached. And so when you have 203 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: that technician and then he's given the overall job, then 204 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: he's basically getting you know, he's rewriting our bible that 205 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: we live by, you know, the technique, the fundamentals, um, 206 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: things that we're coming out and doing. Uh, that's that's 207 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: that's that's something that he does. And and SMO Chris 208 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: Morrigan is in the back doing that secondary job, and 209 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 1: they were they were there a tandem. They're team and 210 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: and that combination has felt in our room and and 211 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: sometimes too. A lot of people might coward cower away 212 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: from that type of pressure and that type of coaching. 213 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: But our room, like I said, it's full of guys 214 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: who love that and and work well with that. So 215 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: we're excited. Christ Ricard, Hey, Zack, you talked about how 216 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: you know, you guys have a lot of uh, you know, 217 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 1: there's no ego in the room, but you also have 218 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: a lot of new guys in the room. And you 219 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: know you're losing Marquis from you know, as he retired. 220 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: There's gonna be I guess a new conic culture that 221 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: you guys are developing. It's what the offensive one is 222 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: gonna be for years. What's what's been your interaction with 223 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: some of those new guys and you guys feeling each 224 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: other out just these first few days, a few first 225 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: few days. You'll never be able to fill a gap 226 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: that fifty three left. No one will. Um, it's just 227 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: because he's his own guy and he was a center, 228 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: right that come that that's that's a different uh, that's 229 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: that a whole different you know book. But at the 230 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: same time, it's not almost like creating a new environment. 231 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: It's taking all the great things from it, right from 232 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: being here. Dave Decashro has been here even longer, um 233 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: those experiences, and I mean, come on, man, we're talking. 234 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: You know a lot of people, a lot of people 235 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: want to say a lot of bad things about us 236 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 1: right now, and that's okay. But at the same time, 237 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago we were known as the 238 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: best offensive line in the league. How do you take 239 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: those things that they passed on and how do you 240 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: create it in your own way? And that's that That 241 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: will be something that we'll have to continue to fill 242 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: out for the summer. But I think we found it 243 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: and we're working really, really hard. You know, even though 244 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: I mentioned the outside voices, Um, that's only because of 245 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: you know, how interactive I am on social media and 246 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: some of the other guys are like, you can't just 247 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: you just can't help but to be tweeted at by somebody. 248 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: But when I tell you that, when we will wait 249 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 1: when I wake up, Like, that's the last thing I'm 250 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: thinking about. That's the last our guys are thinking about. 251 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: We never we hardly ever even talked about it. The 252 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: only time we'll talk about it is if we you know, 253 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: low fund of player, We low fund something and we 254 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: look at each other and pick each other up and 255 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: and remind each other about that chip on this our 256 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: shoulder because we want that. Um, Like I said, some 257 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: people are scared for that pressure, but we welcome it. 258 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: Let's go to Bryan back o, Brian, is zac everything 259 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: that you just mentioned the you know, the fund mentality 260 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: and you know, wanting to be better than the last season? Um? 261 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: Do you see that in the young guys that you 262 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: guys just drafted Dan and Kendrick And what stood out 263 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: to you about them so far? Very coachable men. They 264 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: take constructive criticism to the fullest. They give a lot 265 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: of effort, which is you can't coach effort. That's actually 266 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: the hardest thing is when you when you have a 267 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: talented guy, or you have a guy who shows a 268 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: promising future and they don't want to put in the work. 269 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: They do. Um, all of our new young guys, all 270 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: of our are all of our new guys too. Like 271 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: it's just it's a it's a culture that was recruited 272 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: and put together by coach t this offseason and it 273 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: really shows. Um, you know, and and and I don't 274 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: know why I was hesitant on saying mentality, But I 275 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: think you guys get that, you know, because the last people, 276 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: you know, the last people. Last thing I want people 277 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: thinking is, you know, we're walking around Pittsburgh beating people 278 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: up or you know, doing doing dumb stuff. But at 279 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: the same time, what else would you want at an 280 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: offensive line, you know, as an offensive line unit, that's 281 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: my question. You know, you gotta come off the ball 282 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: and kill people, and that's that's the type of mentality 283 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: we need to have. No abstract being still on mute? Noah, no, no, 284 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: you're on mute, buddy. We got now to hear me now, yea, 285 00:15:55,600 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: what's going on that guy? Um? What's up? Nice sun roof? 286 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: Thank you. A lot of people are still talking about 287 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: Chucks being a weak spot over at the left tackle. 288 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: I just want to know your thoughts on those thoughts. 289 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: M hm, Well tell them to sign a contract if 290 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: they can do it better. That was Zack Banner with 291 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: the media uh this week, and you've heard a lot 292 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: of stuff from him in regard to the chip that 293 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: the Steelers are offensive lineer playing with on the shoulder. 294 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure coach Tomlin lets him, lets him know a 295 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: little bit about some of the doubts across the nation. Whatever. 296 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: One of the things when he was talking about Adrian 297 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: clem uh and we talked to Kevin Dotson earlier in 298 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: the week and he talked to you know, he said, like, 299 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: you know, we're playing a lot more in a three 300 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: point stands this year. Yeah, yeah, working on more of 301 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: a three point stands. And everybody assumes that means the 302 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: Steelers are gonna be lining up under center and and 303 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: doing those kind of things. Yeah, it doesn't mean that 304 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: Ben's gonna have his his hands under center and you're 305 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: gonna have an I formation or split backs with a 306 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: tight end and you know, your old turf shoes on, 307 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 1: you know, the extual lineman and two tight ends on 308 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: the field and in a short yardage package. I mean, 309 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: I'm sure if you ask all those linemen or most linemen, 310 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: they would rather operate out of a three point stance, 311 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: especially in the run game. I mean, you come off 312 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: the ball lower. And I like to hear that they 313 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: are gonna that they're they're they're they're taking more reps, 314 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: at least at this stage of the season out of 315 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: a three point stance. That doesn't mean that Ben's are 316 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: gonna be in the shotgun or there's not gonna be 317 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: motion and three wides and spread the field and all 318 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: kinds of stuff. But I do like hearing that. I 319 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 1: think that was part of the problem last year was 320 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: the lineman weren't allowed or asked to fire off the 321 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: ball as much tough you're not fine, you're not coming 322 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: off the ball when you're in, when you're you know, 323 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: basically standing up uh in the shotgun. Football Signers breaks 324 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: down the shotgun eights. The Steelers were fourth in the 325 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: league last year in shotgun rate at eighty two point 326 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: eight percent of the time. Um and there seems to 327 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: be an idea in Pittsburgh at least that you can't 328 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: run the ball out of the shotgun, which is a 329 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: massive misconception. The number one team using the shotgun last 330 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: year was the Baltimore Ravens at ninety six league. Yeah, 331 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: now lamar helps that, of course, but they still ran 332 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: the ball and ran the ball effectively out of the 333 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: shotgun without question or I wonder what they call pistol, 334 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: like I could see Ben operating in the pistol a 335 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: little bit more too, which is a little closer to 336 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: the lion scrimmage than a true shotgun. Um, who were 337 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: the top three again until you told me Baltimore, uh 338 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: pot six, Arizona at nine, one point seven, in Houston 339 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: at Now those three are maybe the three most mobile 340 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league. And something has something to do 341 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: with it. But it also is what does your quarterback prefer? 342 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: You know, we can operate, we can do him whatever 343 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: you want out of wherever you line up, but just 344 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: where do you want to be? Um? You know, it's 345 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 1: it's a much different reason why Ben would be the 346 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: top of that list. I mean, at his age, I 347 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: bet he doesn't want to drop back, you know, seven 348 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: step drops, five step drops as much as he did. Well, 349 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: here's the thing that if you look at this, the 350 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: number ten team and shotgun snap usage last year was 351 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts. Philip Rivers is even more immobile than Ben. 352 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, the Colts ran the ball 353 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: pretty effectively last year, extremely effective, right, I mean, so 354 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,719 Speaker 1: there's a lot of ways to do it. I mean, 355 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: and some of the reasons to your point why Baltimore 356 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: is such a good running team is because they get 357 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: so many yards. When they get thousand yards. Either quarterback 358 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: too so, I mean, there's it's kind of apples to oranges. 359 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: But I don't even believe that the Steelers running game 360 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: has to be top fifteen. I mean I think it 361 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: mediocre would be fine. It would be a massive revelation, 362 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: would be a would be a huge jump. Huge. But 363 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: I also think, you know, like to our point, the 364 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: style of runs what needs to change too, I mean 365 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: the effectiveness as well. Yeah, the efficiency of it. The 366 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: effectiveness of it to put teams away with the lead, 367 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: to get the tough yards on short yard situations, to 368 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: to set the tempo a little bit, to let those 369 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: linemen come off the ball and be comfortable and do 370 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: what they want to be doing too. That that was missing, Yeah, 371 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: it certainly was. So. I mean I think that's one 372 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: thing that you look at with with what both Thoughts 373 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: and Banner talked about, you know, with the difference between 374 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: Adrian clem Um again also very very uh a good 375 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 1: sign that both he and Bush are on the field. Yeah, 376 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: oh yeah, without questions. I mean, they missed Bush last year. 377 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: There was no fans or butts about it, There's no question. 378 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: I mean I thought the defense was kind of night 379 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: and day without him. I thought it's a bigger loss 380 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,479 Speaker 1: in dupre and which speaks to who played behind them 381 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: as well. You know what they have at the position, 382 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: what the position is asked of? Um, but Bush is 383 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: a unicorn, right, he didn't have another one of those guys. 384 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: You don't have anything that really resembles him. You know, 385 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: you become a lot more predictable on the second level 386 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: like life was before he arrived. Um. And it's a 387 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: pivotal stage of his career, like studs need him to 388 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: be a perennial pro bowler, you know, to make that 389 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: trade upworth it. And you know he's not quite there yet. 390 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: I think he can get there. We saw Devin White 391 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: in the playoffs last year making splash plays. I don't 392 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: know the perception was that he was the reason why 393 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: that the Buccaneers are winning the Super Bowl. Lavonte David 394 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: was a better player. It still is, right, I mean 395 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: there's but you get you get the splash plays out 396 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: of that inside linebacker position. Bush can Bush was providing that. 397 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: Now it was on running backs in the receiving game too. 398 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: Can you can you take that next step? And I 399 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 1: think the thing that people need to you know, look 400 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: at how many times have we've heard over the years. Well, 401 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: the Steelers, you know, they're trying to cover UH wide 402 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: receivers with it with linebackers. If it's Devin Bush got 403 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: a better show, nobody's talking about it. I mean, you're 404 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: still not beating Keenan. Allen is still gonna give Bush 405 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: a hard time, and there's no question about as hard. 406 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: But he's gonna win once in a while, or the 407 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: balls aren't gonna come that direction is often you know, 408 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 1: there won't be the bull's eye on your chest. Yeah, 409 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: and it worries me if he can't. If I chance 410 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: he loses time, I think the defense could take a 411 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: step backwards. And that's the rest of the troops. Troops 412 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: around Bush are a little worries them, but they I 413 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: mean they drafted Buddy Johnson again, an inside linebacker that 414 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: can run. You still have Ulysses Gilbert on the on 415 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: the roster, an inside linebacker that can run. This is 416 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: what they're trying to do here. You can't have two 417 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: inside linebackers on the field who are both four eight guys. 418 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: The Boston Vince Williams combination doesn't work. It doesn't work 419 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 1: now the splane Vince Williams combo doesn't work. Those guys 420 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: are going to get matched up time and again against 421 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: you know, if you look at what Cleveland did against 422 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: the Steelers in the in the playoffs. All right, we're 423 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: gonna come out in our with a two tight end package. 424 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: Job good toadline and Chubb in the backfield. Well, if 425 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: you're the Steelers, how you matchine that, You're gonna use 426 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: your base defense. And then all of a sudden they 427 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: split Chub out and they take their tight ends and 428 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: they flank them out to the boundary. And Hooper is 429 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: not the greatest player, but I still would throw at 430 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: Hooper if Vince Williams is covering. But even if you 431 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: take those tight ends and you say, okay, we're gonna 432 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: put them out wide and we're gonna have the receivers 433 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: running from the from the slot, if you're in his 434 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 1: own defense, well then Slander catches a bunch of balls right, 435 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 1: exactly exactly your corners on fight ends and right. And 436 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: that's a problem. And you need to why you trade 437 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: up for Bush. I mean, we talked about that all 438 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: the time. So in reality, Banner and Bush don't need 439 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: to be out there for fundamentals, And you know, install 440 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: and all that type of thing. But the fact that 441 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: they're out there is really positive for their you know, 442 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: their recovery, recovery in their health. I mean with Banner, 443 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: you're looking at you know, he got hurt last September Bush, 444 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: I believe is October eleventh, something like it was the 445 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 1: fifth game of the year. So so you know, these 446 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: guys are on track to to be ready for the 447 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: start of training camp, and that's when you want them 448 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: to be on the field. Yeah, and Bush needs to 449 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: become I'm not saying he's not, but he needs to 450 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: become a spokesperson for the defense. He needs to be 451 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: getting everybody aligned. At that stage of his career, Banner 452 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: is already outspoken, but you can tell that he has 453 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 1: an influence on his linemates as well. You know, those 454 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: guys are gonna, as we talked about before, have that 455 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: chip on their shoulder that we're not good enough. And 456 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: he mentioned Pouncy. I thought about that a lot, like 457 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: what if Pouncey was still in that locker room, how 458 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: he'd be lighting a fire under this fellow linemates. With 459 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: the headlines and stuff that we're reading across the nation. Yeah, 460 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you see um, time and again. Professional athletes 461 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: use these kind of things. Ben Roethlisberger is gonna use. 462 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 1: It's another one everybody who's writing him off. You keep 463 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: tweeting all the stuff out there. Either. I mentioned to 464 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 1: you before the show started today that you know, uh, 465 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus put out a tweet that you know, 466 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: here's Ben row Slisberger practicing his deep ball. He's he's 467 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: tossing the ball in a drill soft to nausea Harris 468 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: and he aren't we funny? Um, go ahead, keep doing 469 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: that stuff. Doubt the guy who's a Hall of Fame player. 470 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,479 Speaker 1: I mean, he's overcoming many times. Everyone gets motivated by 471 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: different things. But you're right, athletes, they're so high profile, 472 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: and you know, people get them the right information or 473 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: they see it on their own, and any little spark 474 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: you can get is great. And I'm sure why no. 475 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: The Steelers head coach does a good job of poking 476 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: that bear too. For absolutely absolutely. I just find it 477 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: interesting though that that so many in the national media 478 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: are going after Ben Roethlisberger. In the last couple of years. 479 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: You didn't see that happen to Drew Brees and Judan Rivers. 480 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: Was pretty and Breezes really do. Breeze couldn't throw the 481 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: football twenty five yards down the field. The Saints told 482 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: us that in the playoffs when they when they pulled 483 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: him off the field to have Mario or to have 484 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: by Jamis Winston throw one down, you know, deep ball. 485 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: They actually had a better waiting percentage was Breezes out 486 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: the lineup than when he was in lately and there 487 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: was none of that, right. I feel like Brees did 488 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: get a little bit of a pass late in his 489 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: career because he was a liability throwing the football still 490 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: mentally there, this corner's coming, I gotta hit the hot route, 491 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But he didn't help the team, you know, 492 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: in terms of passing the football, that's for sure, and 493 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: didn't seem to get brought up enough. Yeah, I don't. 494 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: I don't see that with Roethlisberg. I don't see him 495 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: getting that respect. And oh, by the way, he's won 496 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: two Super Bowls, hes won one, and the Rivers had 497 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: a good year last year, but they didn't throw the 498 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: ball downfield much either. You talked about him being in 499 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: the shotgun behind a really good line, a Taylor driven offense. 500 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: He managed the game. Well. But frankly, if Ben does this, 501 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: has a season like Rivers did last year with maybe 502 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: a you know, a few more deep balls mixed in 503 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: a couple of more arms strength throws and he always 504 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: threw the ball better than Rivers anyway, that'll be fine. Yeah, 505 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: I just would be plenty. You know, as we talked 506 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: about with with when we had Jim wex Wan in 507 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: the previous segment, I think they're being vastly underrated right now. No, 508 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: I do too. I mean, the track record of winning 509 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: in the league speaks for themselves. And you know, Jim 510 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: even mentioned Cleveland fans are complaining and we gotta play 511 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: on we go play on Christmas or you know, like 512 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: it's hard being a winner. I mean it's hard maintaining. 513 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: And the stealers are proved and they can do it. 514 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: We've had a couple of segments today to reiterate that 515 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: football Siders didn't have them picking in the top ten 516 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: my hunches eight would even consider it, right, doesn't happened 517 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: very often. Now you still got a top ten defense, 518 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: maybe a top five defense. I mean, like Seattle has 519 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: a worse roster than the Steelers, but they don't epically 520 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: tend either like there's just there's some teams you just 521 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: kind of know, Yeah they're down year, might be five 522 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: dred issues, but they're not going to be in the 523 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 1: You know, the Patriots got that respect last year there 524 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: they had their down year. Yeah, they won seven games 525 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: last year, and now all of a sudden they signed 526 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: a couple of guys in free agency. Well they're they're 527 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: Super Bowl contender again, are they? They still in the 528 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 1: same quarterback. I mean, the roster is a lot better 529 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: than it did last year, but it is It speaks 530 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 1: to the point that some of these organizations when they 531 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: bought them out, they don't bottom out. They don't bottom 532 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 1: out quite like some of the other ones. No, I agree, 533 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: But that's gonna do it for our show. So for 534 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,479 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson, for Jacob rec you're on site, keeping uh 535 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: those interviews on the air and keeping us on the 536 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: air as well. Happy Memorial Date everybody. We'll be back 537 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: on Wednesday. But we thank you for listening to this 538 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 1: edition of The Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.