WEBVTT - I Can Mock Stuff (S6 E5 "We've Got Magic To Do")

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<v Speaker 1>I am all in.

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<v Speaker 2>I am all in with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast one

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<v Speaker 1>of the productions I Heart Radio, uh Season six, episode five,

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<v Speaker 1>We Got Magic to Do. I am joined by my

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<v Speaker 1>Intrepid crew, and what a crew it is. Of crew

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<v Speaker 1>of cruise. We just want a Crewey and I've got

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<v Speaker 1>tar Suit, I've got Suzanne French. You know her, you

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<v Speaker 1>love her, You're getting to really love Susanne French. Amy

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<v Speaker 1>still recovering from that little We want a Crewey, we

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<v Speaker 1>want a Crooey and Amy Sugarman. There she is, There,

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<v Speaker 1>she is Suzanne. What's it like being already enshrined into

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<v Speaker 1>the podcasting hall of fame? As it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, dare we say the fan? What's like to be

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<v Speaker 3>the fan favorite? Even though Scott and I've been trying

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<v Speaker 3>for years.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's really it's really stressful, actually, because I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like I can't even make the smallest mistake. And I

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<v Speaker 4>was listening to last week's episode and realized that I

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<v Speaker 4>read something wrong in the synopsis. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>if it was written wrong or my brain just substituted it,

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<v Speaker 4>but I feel like a failure, so I that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it hasn't been so I have a couple of therapy

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<v Speaker 4>sessions and I should be okay soon.

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<v Speaker 3>It's that might have it easier because the bar is

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<v Speaker 3>so low for us.

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<v Speaker 5>And then I'm like right in the middle. O, no,

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<v Speaker 5>I would, I would put you up there.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I don't see a lot of critiques.

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<v Speaker 5>I did get someone who says something nice and I

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<v Speaker 5>only saw it because they tagged me.

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<v Speaker 3>What did they say? What did they say?

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<v Speaker 5>They said, I'll pull it up.

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<v Speaker 3>Well a shout out, because I haven't getten a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people agreeing with me lately. So I'm feeling pretty

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<v Speaker 3>good and I hope I don't blow it.

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<v Speaker 6>They called me the queen, That's what it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Queen, You're the queen though that's never happened for scotton me. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I have some hot takes on this episode, so we'll

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<v Speaker 3>see how it goes.

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<v Speaker 5>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's time for a little plug here.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh we love a plug.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's all gather at MotorCity Comic Con fans. I will

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<v Speaker 1>be there November ten, eleven twelve, So go to Motorcitycomic

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<v Speaker 1>Con dot com. And also I'm going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>Galaxy con Columbuscember two and three, Columbus, Ohio.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's why are you so dressed up?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not. It's a little chili in the in the

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<v Speaker 1>unit here, and I just put on a shirt. I

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<v Speaker 1>only brought one, So I.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, your shirt is super nice and your glasses are

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<v Speaker 3>super cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Are the is new? No, I've had these glasses for

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like you don't wear them enough.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe a combo of the shirt and the glasses.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I look like a literature professor?

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<v Speaker 3>You look a little bit like a professor.

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<v Speaker 4>You have elbow patches almost, they're good?

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<v Speaker 3>No, looking good?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? I got my shirt on. I only brought the wine.

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<v Speaker 1>I brought it one.

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<v Speaker 3>I brought one from the set. Do they frown upon that?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like to. I sometimes pill for socks because

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<v Speaker 1>they have such high quality socks.

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<v Speaker 3>And people don't want to wear that. They're not going

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<v Speaker 3>to re wear socks.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great, especially not my socks.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right, little right right among us. No, I will

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<v Speaker 3>admit I have he's had a bout with that because

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<v Speaker 3>my brothers, like when we were on vacation, we'd have

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<v Speaker 3>to take share a shower. Obviously not at the same time,

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<v Speaker 3>but my brothers and I would always get athletes.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, that's why I have shower shoes. It's tough

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<v Speaker 1>shower shoes. Yeah, we all used to dress. When I

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<v Speaker 1>was playing playing pro ball, you know, we all showered

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<v Speaker 1>together and that's my big showers and everybody had shower shoes.

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<v Speaker 3>Mice already had separations though it wasn't It was like

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<v Speaker 3>a big shower, but like you couldn't they had walls.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I did forget my I did take a

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<v Speaker 1>shower with Joe DiMaggio. It's just me and taking a

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<v Speaker 1>shower that one spring training, and I forgot my shower shoes.

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<v Speaker 1>So I almost got Joe Demaggio fungus. It might be

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<v Speaker 1>t m I I didn't quite get it, didn't quite

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<v Speaker 1>get I understand. Yeah, So is everybody watching Sullivan's Crossing?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you breath watching each episode? What do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me what you think.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to have a spoiler, wow, because there

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<v Speaker 3>was like a shocking thing with your character.

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<v Speaker 1>What was that?

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<v Speaker 3>Am I right? I don't want to ruin it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's enough. That's good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean that's not a tease. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>There are ten cliffhangers. There's ten episodes, and there's ten

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<v Speaker 1>ten cliffhangers at the end of each episode. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>so CW Wednesday nights, eight pm, seventh Central, check it out. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>who's synopsizing? Is it Suzanne Frank?

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<v Speaker 3>She doesn't blow it again.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, I gotta like get my act together here,

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<v Speaker 4>So let me give this a try, all right. We

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<v Speaker 4>have season six, episode five, We've Got Magic to do

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<v Speaker 4>This aired on October eleventh, two thousand and five.

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<v Speaker 3>The stove catches.

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<v Speaker 4>Fire at the end, and laurel I has to call

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<v Speaker 4>Richard to deal with the insurance money. Rory organizes a

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<v Speaker 4>dar event, which goes remarkably well until the Huntsburgers arrive unannounced. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 4>larel I attends a bizarre school recital and Luke feels

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<v Speaker 4>slighted for not being invited.

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<v Speaker 3>So much to discuss.

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<v Speaker 4>This was a episode I was waiting for foremost and

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<v Speaker 4>foremost the hunt, So I'm gonna just get decor out

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<v Speaker 4>of the way.

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<v Speaker 3>The Huntsburger's house, which we only briefly saw in the recap,

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<v Speaker 3>is amazing, So the set or their house if you

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<v Speaker 3>want to pretend it's real, or if you want to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about TV set is phenomenal. And I must once

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<v Speaker 3>again say the pool house decor, like the interior design,

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<v Speaker 3>is epic. It's like very lot of fabrics, a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of patterns, a lot of colors. But I am totally in.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's it's like a Hampton's house. It's like a

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<v Speaker 1>French country estate, and it's just so well done.

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<v Speaker 3>It's beyond it's amazing. Whoever came in and actually did

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<v Speaker 3>the design of that pool house and get me their number, seriously.

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<v Speaker 3>And I will refer to it throughout this conversation as

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<v Speaker 3>face acting, because there was a lot of face acting

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<v Speaker 3>in this Yep, yeah, Richard, Emily Luke.

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<v Speaker 6>You're right now that no, I mean I saw it

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<v Speaker 6>face acting.

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<v Speaker 3>Leanne Hunley, Missus Huntsberger. Face acting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called listening. All I have to do is listen

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<v Speaker 1>and then your face will act it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh. I feel like.

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<v Speaker 1>Your eyes will reflect it, your thoughts will will form

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<v Speaker 1>the facial acting expressions. Face acting.

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<v Speaker 3>Kelly Bishop with some intense face acting, But I digress.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you something. We've redefined the acting terms. You

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<v Speaker 1>were going to come out of a come out with

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<v Speaker 1>a book Great Face Acting with Amy.

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<v Speaker 3>And Unbelievable Dancing by Richard and Emily, because I believe

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<v Speaker 3>Kelly Bishop was like a professional ballerina, yes, a.

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<v Speaker 1>Dancer, jazz dancer, the whole thing, yea.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's why she was on butnheads.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why she was on butnheads, which stay tuned. Amy

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<v Speaker 3>and Tara will be discussing butnheads at some point, don't

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<v Speaker 3>you worry? Uh? Okay, So we do the recap, which

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<v Speaker 3>was particularly dramatic, and then we go into the Luke

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<v Speaker 3>and Lorelei come into the diner with all the shopping

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<v Speaker 3>bags and the craziest pink underwear I have ever seen

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<v Speaker 3>in my entire life. It was Yeah, I hated that

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<v Speaker 3>whole cold open.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate you did tell us why let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't like I mean we you guys have talked

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<v Speaker 4>in the past about some things that some elements that

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<v Speaker 4>don't age well over time, and this was one thing

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<v Speaker 4>that comes up a lot is the fat shaming, and

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<v Speaker 4>this was a classic example of it. It just was

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<v Speaker 4>really bothersome.

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<v Speaker 1>What was said specifically.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, when they pull out the giant pair of pink

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<v Speaker 4>panties and Laurlin makes some comment about.

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<v Speaker 5>A size or something, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Something about I'd hate to be wrapped around the woman

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<v Speaker 4>that fits these or something like a really obnoxious comment

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<v Speaker 4>like that, which you know, it wasn't very nice then

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<v Speaker 4>and it really isn't nice now. I don't know it

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<v Speaker 4>just that they were doing it for humor value, I guess,

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<v Speaker 4>but it wasn't funny to me.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't good. It gets worse when Emily goes too.

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<v Speaker 3>That was. That was rough, but we'll talk about that

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<v Speaker 3>when we get to it. Aside from that, I thought

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<v Speaker 3>the shopping sort of bit was funny, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>a velcrow wallet has to go as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, you could see.

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<v Speaker 3>Luke kind of like having that. How I can't make

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<v Speaker 3>a bell crow sound, but if somebody could, Yeah, wow,

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<v Speaker 3>he's a voice actor, a face actor.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, maybe I can face act the velcrow hang.

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<v Speaker 6>On glasses off.

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<v Speaker 3>That was actually really good. And I did love when

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<v Speaker 3>her phone rings and Luke just points at the sign

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<v Speaker 3>and goes it still applies changed. That was that was

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<v Speaker 3>really good. And we got a little glimpse of her

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<v Speaker 3>ring again, which I really like her engagement ring. It's

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<v Speaker 3>it's like delicate, it's it looks antique, which I assume

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<v Speaker 3>it is because Kirk took it off a dead lady.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I I like the ring. I like that I'm seeing that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I just you know, I didn't hate

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<v Speaker 3>to open that much. And I thought the fire starter

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<v Speaker 3>stuff was a little bit funny. There's another fire.

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<v Speaker 1>Then it was all yeah, kind of what she had

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<v Speaker 1>the good line, don't walk behind the library to catch

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<v Speaker 1>on fire.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it was. It was all fine, nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, hey, when you see those two together, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be okay. Yeah, right, even if it's not like fall

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<v Speaker 1>down funny. I agree, well and they and even when

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<v Speaker 1>you know that Suzanne's gonna throw the flag right, it's

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mind those two together.

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<v Speaker 3>The part I didn't get was Luke and Jackson bickering.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, why were they doing that? Like those two

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<v Speaker 3>get along? I didn't. I didn't really. You know, when

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<v Speaker 3>you're trying to fig you're out the oven situation and

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<v Speaker 3>they are bickering and don't really get that. I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>those two are They're not going to bicker, They're going

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<v Speaker 3>to be in it together. But I mean, whatever, tiny

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<v Speaker 3>tiny flag, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Lines are there. You got it. You gotta say them.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know them, do you know? Oh you're saying.

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<v Speaker 3>I know you're saying. I needed to say right now, right,

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<v Speaker 3>you had to say them correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether the lines are there, right, you gotta make it.

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<v Speaker 3>If you don't think in tracks right, right, there's nothing

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<v Speaker 3>to do but it. And I didn't understand why the

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<v Speaker 3>insurance company had never heard of them, even though I

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<v Speaker 3>get it's a ploy to get Richard there, but that

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<v Speaker 3>was sort of like, right, anyone thoughts on.

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<v Speaker 1>That, Tara, you have a flag, you're throwing a flag

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<v Speaker 1>on the plane.

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<v Speaker 5>We're not there yet though, so I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, we'll put it back in your pocket

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<v Speaker 1>and let's then okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So I actually enjoy the scene on the patio. So

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<v Speaker 3>now we go to the patio and all the ladies

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<v Speaker 3>are there with Rory, and she's very you know, dressed,

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<v Speaker 3>her hair and her outfit. It's very she's really playing

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<v Speaker 3>the part. The patio scenes always bug me though, because

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<v Speaker 3>they're clearly not outside, and I don't know why that's

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<v Speaker 3>so annoying to me, But the ladies are classic. They're

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<v Speaker 3>all insane. The whole thing's insane. But I kind of

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<v Speaker 3>love it, and then I kind of love that Rory

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<v Speaker 3>sort of was like, hey, uh, I think we can

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<v Speaker 3>fix this. We can run a deficit, you know, achieve

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<v Speaker 3>a bigger profit, like she's got all the things. And

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<v Speaker 3>then the one woman's like, yeah, let's go balls out,

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<v Speaker 3>take a swing, slug or baby like. It was like

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<v Speaker 3>that was weird but enjoyable.

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<v Speaker 5>I would say, yeah, I think for me. I know

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<v Speaker 5>last week I said like I just feel like Rory's

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<v Speaker 5>not herself, out of her element. But for some reason

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<v Speaker 5>in this episode, because she was so in control and

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<v Speaker 5>she was on top of her her game, it kind

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<v Speaker 5>of worked like it worked for me, you know, especially

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<v Speaker 5>notched up around. But like you know, she's calling people

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<v Speaker 5>and she's saying it's sold out and all this and that,

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<v Speaker 5>and she's like that's the Rory. We know.

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<v Speaker 6>She gets she gets it done. She doesn't slack.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and if you put on a great party, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's a real ye.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean Emily Emily was like you're sold out?

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<v Speaker 1>What?

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<v Speaker 3>And also not for nothing, whether she's left yell or not,

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<v Speaker 3>putting on an event like that is a big deal.

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<v Speaker 3>That's like like that's not just nothing. So I kind

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<v Speaker 3>of thought she should be proud of herself. They should,

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<v Speaker 3>everybody should be proud. That's a respectable, amazing job she did.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm feeling the return to Yale, like we're getting there,

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<v Speaker 3>they're all starting to figure this out.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope. I don't know what happens, but I hope

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<v Speaker 1>she goes back soon. And I like this episode and

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<v Speaker 1>I like what she was doing here too. I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with you her, but I'm ready for it to get

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<v Speaker 1>back to Yale.

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<v Speaker 5>And get back in the mix.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we'll talk about Paris. For me, was not enough

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<v Speaker 3>logan in this episode, but we'll get to like one moment.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is the scene I disliked the most. Coming

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<v Speaker 3>up next, and it is lore Lion Luke at Suki

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<v Speaker 3>and Jackson's house for the dinner.

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<v Speaker 5>Which was my flag.

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<v Speaker 3>There's parts of it that I loved. The dinner looked amazing,

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<v Speaker 3>but nobody tells me, like one and a half the

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<v Speaker 3>old kid.

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<v Speaker 5>To see.

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<v Speaker 1>It's awful. Did anybody feel like this is all? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to use the A word, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>the word children to scream at them.

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<v Speaker 5>Like that, Well, that was my I was like the top.

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<v Speaker 5>That was my fin on this episode. I was like,

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<v Speaker 5>you're yelling by the way, It's like if it was

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<v Speaker 5>a joke once, I would kind of laugh at it,

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<v Speaker 5>like if it was once they panted the one year old,

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<v Speaker 5>but it was just like if you don't turn it off,

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<v Speaker 5>like no t for the week, and this kid doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>know how to use a remote.

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<v Speaker 3>This kid can't walk. I barely think you doesn't. It's

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<v Speaker 3>one thing if you're yelling at a twelve year old

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<v Speaker 3>like the dam like I don't know where they going

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<v Speaker 3>for a Lucy and Ricky like I couldn't figure out

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<v Speaker 3>what was.

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<v Speaker 5>It was very out of pocket with this episode too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how to pocket Wow, Tara Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>My I agree with that. My husband was watching it

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<v Speaker 4>with me last night and he's because I turned the

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<v Speaker 4>volume down because I cannot even stand that scene. So

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<v Speaker 4>I just I can't stand the way they're shrieking. So

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<v Speaker 4>I turned the volume down and my husband was like,

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<v Speaker 4>why is this scene even in this episode? And they're

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<v Speaker 4>trying to show how patient Luke is with all of this, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>constantly following Laurela around, but it really does. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>really fit in and it was overdone and over the

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<v Speaker 4>top and easily one of my top three least favorite

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<v Speaker 4>episodes in the entire seven seasons.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't hate the episode, but the scene is.

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<v Speaker 3>But the other thing is, like, there, Luke is not

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<v Speaker 3>going to sit there eating his dinner like a weirdo

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<v Speaker 3>while all this crap's going on, you know, feeding the

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<v Speaker 3>dog with the fork and the baby and like.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, because he's so whipped, he just wants.

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<v Speaker 3>To be his dinner. All he would have taken his

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<v Speaker 3>plate up. What Luke would have done is like hey,

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<v Speaker 3>when they all kind of like got up and were

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<v Speaker 3>moving around and she's being the dog with the fork,

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<v Speaker 3>he would have just taken his plate into the kitchen

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<v Speaker 3>and sat on the stool or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Or at least given a couple of looks, you know, turn.

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<v Speaker 5>His chair the dog right, Like I understand what they

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<v Speaker 5>were doing with it. They were trying to show that

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<v Speaker 5>Luke is you know, he's here to port Laura. He

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<v Speaker 5>loves doing whatever she wants to do. Like that was

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<v Speaker 5>the point, which was the point of the whole episode.

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<v Speaker 5>But we didn't need this. Why I feel like we

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<v Speaker 5>could to cut this out, dealt with the other Luke

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<v Speaker 5>and Lorelei scenes and that was enough.

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<v Speaker 3>We didn't even need the storyline.

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<v Speaker 6>The storyline, No, I agree, but if you want it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Not like I don't know how to say this. This

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<v Speaker 3>appropriate language, like lucas not a sap. Is that the

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<v Speaker 3>him's guy not at all. They are very equal. So

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, this is just and Luke will go

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<v Speaker 3>camping if he wants to go camping. And he's not

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<v Speaker 3>going to go camping. He's not going to do anything

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<v Speaker 3>he doesn't want to do. And he's also not going

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<v Speaker 3>to be butt hurt. That was the other thing, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just gonna say, he comes back all butt

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<v Speaker 1>hurt and I just want to be with you, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy and being with you. I don't care what it.

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<v Speaker 3>Really he's not doing that. He would have never gone camping.

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<v Speaker 3>He would have been like Laura, I'm going to the

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<v Speaker 3>Patty Show with you and we're going to like rip

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<v Speaker 3>on people and have a great time and sneak in

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<v Speaker 3>some wine whatever it is beer like.

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<v Speaker 1>But she even did say there was some dialogue that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, let me pull out a flag. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>throw a flag here where she said to him when

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<v Speaker 1>she was trying to convince him to go to camping,

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<v Speaker 1>do what you want to do, because she wanted. She

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<v Speaker 1>actually did want it. She didn't want to go with him,

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<v Speaker 1>She wanted to go with Suki. So as she stated,

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<v Speaker 1>so I can have fun and those words to him,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't react. He didn't say, well you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>fun with me, or he took the hit and then

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<v Speaker 1>he left, And it was like, that's kind of a like,

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<v Speaker 1>is that this magic relationship or whatever? Or is he

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<v Speaker 1>being over sensitive or are they trying to pertain portray

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<v Speaker 1>him and being over sensitive to even react in these ways,

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<v Speaker 1>or to even be in a situation in a scene

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<v Speaker 1>where you know she has to push him to go camping,

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<v Speaker 1>it was odd.

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<v Speaker 5>It was Yeah, I forgot about this little storyline, but

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<v Speaker 5>when I was watching it, I was like, does she just.

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<v Speaker 6>Want a girl's and wanted Luke to go away?

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<v Speaker 5>Like she could have been like, hey, want to night

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<v Speaker 5>with me and Suki and Luke would have been totally

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<v Speaker 5>fine with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>What I want to ask you guys, is do we

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<v Speaker 3>think Lorelei was genuinely being genuine and feeling like she

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<v Speaker 3>was monopolizing too much of Luke's time and kind of

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<v Speaker 3>was encouraging him to not not feel so obligated and

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<v Speaker 3>could go do what he wanted or did she actually

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<v Speaker 3>not want him to come.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry if I felt she did not want him

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<v Speaker 1>to come and was forcing him out, because after disagree

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<v Speaker 1>a wait a minute, hang on, let me let me

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<v Speaker 1>let me just say this. After he came back and

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<v Speaker 1>he did his butt hurt scene, right, and they had

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<v Speaker 1>their little heart to heart and he confessed how whipped

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<v Speaker 1>he is. There was no physical contact between them.

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<v Speaker 5>She just left.

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<v Speaker 1>She just walked out of the diner. You would expect

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<v Speaker 1>hug and a kiss and what you know, something right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>something that was familiar of a relateationship, an intimate relationship.

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<v Speaker 5>She just left.

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<v Speaker 1>She goes, okay, bye.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like it was Sanne, you give it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a weird storyline.

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<v Speaker 3>Taken that I have a thought.

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<v Speaker 4>I just felt like, if we go back to the

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<v Speaker 4>scene where they're screaming at Davy about the TV, they

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<v Speaker 4>showed her looking at Luke a few times, and so

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<v Speaker 4>to me, that was her realization that like, oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>he gives up a lot of his own time to

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<v Speaker 4>do the things that I want to do, and I

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<v Speaker 4>know he hates coming over here for dinner because these

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<v Speaker 4>people are crazy, and so I in my mind she was.

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<v Speaker 4>She wasn't trying to get rid of him. She was

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<v Speaker 4>trying to encourage him to go do his own thing,

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<v Speaker 4>because he does give up a lot of time to

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<v Speaker 4>do what she wants to do. So I thought it

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<v Speaker 4>was more of a generous gesture to him him then

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<v Speaker 4>saying I don't want to spend the evening with you.

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<v Speaker 1>You just say I was having Wi Fi issues and

0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:09.399
<v Speaker 1>I had to watch it on a tiny screen on

0:22:09.440 --> 0:22:12.800
<v Speaker 1>my cell phone, so I wasn't picking up subtleties like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>So here's my take.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Susanne, you definitely did pick that up that she

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<v Speaker 1>was noticing him, that he was tolerated.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because she kind of has a look on her face,

0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:27.600
<v Speaker 4>and I know face acting is not a thing, but

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<v Speaker 4>it was happening right there. She she had a look

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<v Speaker 4>in face like, oh my gosh, she's this is really

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<v Speaker 4>sweet of him to put up with all of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so there was all right. So they tried to

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<v Speaker 1>really sell the storyline but it didn't work.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, Scott, So that's what I was going to say. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I actually think it was authentic the intention, meaning she

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<v Speaker 3>intent she really does want to make sure, he's doing

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<v Speaker 3>the things he wants to do with all good intentions,

0:22:56.280 --> 0:22:58.040
<v Speaker 3>and he really does want to hang out with her

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<v Speaker 3>with all good intentions. I just think the way they

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<v Speaker 3>wrote it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Bad because it's okay that she wants to have a

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<v Speaker 1>girl and was Suki, that's not a problem. It's okay

0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:10.880
<v Speaker 1>that he likes to hang with her.

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<v Speaker 3>It's sure that he wants to go camping.

0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:15.040
<v Speaker 1>It just just wants to go camping. It's all okay,

0:23:15.080 --> 0:23:17.359
<v Speaker 1>But it just they tried to turn it as something

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<v Speaker 1>like this into some kind of big conflict and it

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<v Speaker 1>really work.

0:23:20.359 --> 0:23:24.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like an E or an F storyline that

0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:26.320
<v Speaker 3>they tried to make a B and you're like, this

0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:35.480
<v Speaker 3>isn't a thing, So do we all agree? Like the

0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:42.119
<v Speaker 3>scene did not work At Suki and Jackson's, it was weird,

0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:48.280
<v Speaker 3>although the dinner looked unbelievably delicious, and the storyline is

0:23:48.320 --> 0:23:50.800
<v Speaker 3>a little off that Luke and Laura are going to

0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:53.000
<v Speaker 3>be having this sort of problem, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything else was pretty darn great.

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<v Speaker 3>So that let's get to Emily and Richard you can

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<v Speaker 3>relate to me are the highlight of this whole. So first, Emily's.

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<v Speaker 1>A little.

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<v Speaker 3>Weird about Rory taking on the event, and I thought

0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:11.920
<v Speaker 3>it was because she was jealous, but I actually think

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<v Speaker 3>now it was because she was nervous about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I agree. You can see going back to that

0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:23.760
<v Speaker 4>scene where they were sitting on the patio when somebody

0:24:23.760 --> 0:24:26.560
<v Speaker 4>suggested that Rory take it over, Emily looked very worried.

0:24:27.720 --> 0:24:31.760
<v Speaker 4>He's not sure that Rory can is ready for that

0:24:32.040 --> 0:24:34.439
<v Speaker 4>step yet, which I thought was interesting because in the

0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:38.520
<v Speaker 4>last episode she did that dar event she was stuck

0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:40.840
<v Speaker 4>in Helsinki and she did a great job. So I

0:24:40.920 --> 0:24:43.359
<v Speaker 4>thought that was interesting that she was so nervous about Rory.

0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:46.920
<v Speaker 3>It was just a little bizarre. Yeah, I don't care

0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:49.239
<v Speaker 3>about a salmon puff, although I want to try one,

0:24:49.280 --> 0:24:51.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't think I've ever had one. But I love

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<v Speaker 3>that Richard has all the confidence in the world and.

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<v Speaker 5>Rory always always.

0:24:57.119 --> 0:25:01.840
<v Speaker 3>People say I say always, but I'm saying always. It's

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<v Speaker 3>like he really believes in her more than anybody. Which

0:25:07.560 --> 0:25:09.480
<v Speaker 3>we'll get to the face acting at the end of

0:25:09.520 --> 0:25:14.680
<v Speaker 3>the episode in a minute. My one flag though, so

0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:18.440
<v Speaker 3>he says something like she knew facts of this at three,

0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:20.679
<v Speaker 3>and she knew this at five, and she knew this

0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:23.640
<v Speaker 3>at ten. Well, like if they were sort of estranged,

0:25:23.960 --> 0:25:25.560
<v Speaker 3>did he really know all that? I mean, I think

0:25:25.600 --> 0:25:27.680
<v Speaker 3>they saw each other from time to time, but.

0:25:28.040 --> 0:25:29.760
<v Speaker 4>I think they saw each other on holidays.

0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:33.360
<v Speaker 5>Do you think also Loralai would tell them like, oh,

0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:35.119
<v Speaker 5>my daughter knows this and that.

0:25:35.920 --> 0:25:38.360
<v Speaker 3>But I think they know it now, right, I think.

0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:41.840
<v Speaker 1>And conversations that have when they reconnected at the beginning

0:25:41.840 --> 0:25:44.520
<v Speaker 1>of the show, then they've had those conversations at the

0:25:44.600 --> 0:25:47.960
<v Speaker 1>dinner table. I kind of just stuff that we weren't

0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:50.600
<v Speaker 1>privy to that they just wanted to get to the conflict.

0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:54.960
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, I kind of thought that too, right, Yeah,

0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:56.920
<v Speaker 3>so okay, So then now we go to the scene

0:25:56.920 --> 0:25:59.679
<v Speaker 3>in the kitchen with Richard and Laura Lai sort of

0:26:00.040 --> 0:26:04.879
<v Speaker 3>reunited because of the insurance situation, and it was pretty caustic,

0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:08.399
<v Speaker 3>Like Loralai was really caustic. I think she says, how

0:26:08.400 --> 0:26:09.959
<v Speaker 3>are the Hamburglers or something?

0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Hamburgers?

0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:16.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thing, yeah, and he's like they're fine. People's misunderstanding.

0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:19.000
<v Speaker 3>And then that poor guy with the weird digital camera

0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:21.000
<v Speaker 3>just in there for that awkwardness.

0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:24.360
<v Speaker 5>I thought he was at one called for like her

0:26:24.400 --> 0:26:26.560
<v Speaker 5>timing at least, or like the way she came off

0:26:26.680 --> 0:26:31.080
<v Speaker 5>like we I understand you're trying to like get Rory

0:26:31.160 --> 0:26:33.280
<v Speaker 5>back to Yale, but it just was like your dad

0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:36.879
<v Speaker 5>came to help you for an insurance thing and the kids,

0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:38.119
<v Speaker 5>like it just wasn't the right.

0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:41.120
<v Speaker 4>Time, Like she was almost trying to pick a fight.

0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she was trying to pick.

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<v Speaker 4>But at the same time, it always has bothered me

0:26:48.720 --> 0:26:53.560
<v Speaker 4>that throughout this string of episodes, Richard and Emily just

0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:57.080
<v Speaker 4>assumed from the get go that Laura I was lying

0:26:57.280 --> 0:27:00.440
<v Speaker 4>about the whole thing, and she could have just ask

0:27:00.840 --> 0:27:04.159
<v Speaker 4>Rory what happened at dinner at the Huntsburgers that night,

0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:06.800
<v Speaker 4>and they never did yea, And that always kind of

0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:09.440
<v Speaker 4>bothered me, like they just assumed that Lorelai is lying,

0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:11.400
<v Speaker 4>So therefore we're not even going to try to find

0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:13.080
<v Speaker 4>out if anything really happened.

0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Yet, let me interject here that laurel I has done

0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:28.159
<v Speaker 1>and said some pretty bizarre things over the past six seasons.

0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:32.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, come on, her credibility with them is not

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:35.680
<v Speaker 1>I would say, sterling silver.

0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:38.920
<v Speaker 3>Even because she's so sort of sarcastic or.

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I can see that, and I agree with that,

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:46.720
<v Speaker 4>but in this particular situation where it would be so

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:49.480
<v Speaker 4>easy to just ask Rory the next time she.

0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:50.320
<v Speaker 1>Walked in the room.

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:52.800
<v Speaker 4>And they don't even think to do that, Like they

0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:55.639
<v Speaker 4>never asked Rory what happened at the Huntsburgers. They just

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:59.040
<v Speaker 4>automatically assumed that, well, they're very nice people. That couldn't

0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:04.359
<v Speaker 4>have happened. And so I that just has bothered me

0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:05.960
<v Speaker 4>in all of these episodes.

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:08.680
<v Speaker 3>Or maybe they're in denial they don't want to deal

0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:10.879
<v Speaker 3>like not that I think they want it to not

0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:13.320
<v Speaker 3>be true. Yeah, you know what I mean, Like, if

0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 3>you want something to not be true, you don't want

0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 3>to go digging to make it true because it's really

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:21.000
<v Speaker 3>a dig on them. The last of it was a

0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:25.040
<v Speaker 3>dig that the that the Gillmores aren't worthy of the Huntsburgers, right,

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:25.879
<v Speaker 3>And I think.

0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:29.280
<v Speaker 1>And Rory is not going to go to her parents

0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:31.639
<v Speaker 1>and be a whiny tattle tale about it, you know,

0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:35.879
<v Speaker 1>because she respects their relationship with the hunts Burgers and

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 1>she just you know, she don't want to deal with it,

0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 1>you know. But I agree that you know, it all

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:43.720
<v Speaker 1>could have But then then wor'st the worst the build

0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:47.959
<v Speaker 1>up over the many episodes or how many episodes, you know,

0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:51.160
<v Speaker 1>how many episodes ago did that happen. That was what

0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:55.680
<v Speaker 1>episode one or two? I think, so we're like, no, no, no, no,

0:28:55.720 --> 0:28:57.600
<v Speaker 1>it's not been that's right, it was.

0:28:57.600 --> 0:29:00.479
<v Speaker 3>In It was seven episodes ago. It is the end

0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:03.800
<v Speaker 3>of the finale, so it's about seven to eight episodes.

0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So that's you know, that's a good wait waiting

0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:10.000
<v Speaker 1>period for the tension to keep building in the audience,

0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:13.480
<v Speaker 1>to keep acting asking when the heck is this going

0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:16.520
<v Speaker 1>to get resolved? And bannedit they deliver. So I think

0:29:16.520 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 1>it was pretty ingeniously of the whole production and the

0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 1>whole writing team to delay it.

0:29:23.120 --> 0:29:24.760
<v Speaker 3>I agree with you. I I don't mind.

0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:28.560
<v Speaker 1>Would you would you rather have it resolved right away

0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:32.240
<v Speaker 1>because they believe Rory and just have it done, or

0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:34.000
<v Speaker 1>would you rather wait what's more important?

0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 3>I would rather wait for what we got with the

0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 3>blow up between them, right.

0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:41.000
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's been the whole strategy for all

0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 1>of these characters, all these storylines. Let's drag them out

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:46.200
<v Speaker 1>as much as we can, and if we got a

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 1>couple of flags thrown up on us, so be it.

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:53.160
<v Speaker 3>And I don't think she I don't think Rory would

0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:55.360
<v Speaker 3>have I think she would have not told them, She

0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:59.880
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't have lied, but she maybe would have. She's so

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:01.880
<v Speaker 3>still shaken sideways by.

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:04.400
<v Speaker 1>It and and probably embarrassed by it.

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:06.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's right, Scott, because.

0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Maybe there's a part of her that feels like they're right.

0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:12.080
<v Speaker 1>So she so she's her confidence took a hit. She

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:15.040
<v Speaker 1>doesn't really want to come out full guns because she can't.

0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 3>That's right. A lot of her thinks it's real. That's

0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 3>the whole right, Not so much the dinner, but what

0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:25.960
<v Speaker 3>Mitcham said at the paper, she quit Yale because of it.

0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:29.320
<v Speaker 3>She gives these people so much power. So obviously she's

0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:30.720
<v Speaker 3>not going to talk about it.

0:30:30.600 --> 0:30:33.920
<v Speaker 1>But it is. But it is kind of, uh, you know,

0:30:34.520 --> 0:30:40.160
<v Speaker 1>it's that something such such an event, such an extreme

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:43.080
<v Speaker 1>decision to drop out of Yale and move into the poolhouse.

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 1>You know that they didn't have a deeper talk with

0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 1>her about it and really like, you know, you know,

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:55.120
<v Speaker 1>try it out of her almost like what happened? You know? Why?

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Why weren't they more curious? You know?

0:30:57.480 --> 0:30:59.200
<v Speaker 5>Do you think they just didn't want to lose her

0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:02.720
<v Speaker 5>again because like they didn't have her as a her

0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:05.120
<v Speaker 5>growing up as a kid, they didn't have her around

0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:07.280
<v Speaker 5>like they do now. So do you think it was

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 5>just like, we'll do whatever she wants.

0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:12.360
<v Speaker 3>So she stays in a take when she was crying

0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:16.560
<v Speaker 3>and hugging him. Yeah, and he didn't care about anything,

0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 3>but just like doing what she wanted needed making her

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:22.120
<v Speaker 3>feel better, Like he just isn't going to stand up

0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 3>to her and have a conversation about it. When she's

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 3>like crying to her grandpa, right, He's just like, Okay,

0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:29.920
<v Speaker 3>you know what, fine, whatever you want, we'll take care

0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:30.840
<v Speaker 3>of you, right.

0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean she's the golden child. They'll give her

0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:38.000
<v Speaker 4>whatever she wants because the one that, you know, falls

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 4>in line with what they want, the family image that

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:45.720
<v Speaker 4>they want, and so they're gonna, you know, go along

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:49.240
<v Speaker 4>with what Rory wants because them.

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:51.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there is there definitely is a logic to it.

0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 5>And just to go back to the conversation about like

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:57.959
<v Speaker 5>the Huntsburgers, like Emily and Richard look at them like

0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:01.080
<v Speaker 5>they are so important. You can even see it when

0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:05.280
<v Speaker 5>they're at the slush table, like yeah, like why'd you

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:08.080
<v Speaker 5>put them there? You can see like they kind of

0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 5>in well not anymore, but they can do no wrong

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 5>in Emily and Richard's eyes up until this moment.

0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:16.280
<v Speaker 3>Well, which is why the Huntsburgers act the way they

0:32:16.320 --> 0:32:20.280
<v Speaker 3>act because everyone treats them like royalty, and so they

0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:21.600
<v Speaker 3>act idiotic.

0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:27.840
<v Speaker 4>It's so and Emily even said, there's people and then

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:32.400
<v Speaker 4>there's the Huntsburgers, like she's already acknowledging that they're not

0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:35.760
<v Speaker 4>are above them, Like that's oh.

0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 3>It's so gross. It's so gross. It's so gross. I

0:32:40.360 --> 0:32:46.640
<v Speaker 3>hope I never act like that. Oh I don't know.

0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:50.840
<v Speaker 3>That just makes me gag, but true. So we go

0:32:50.920 --> 0:32:54.680
<v Speaker 3>to the scene then in the pool house, which this

0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:56.560
<v Speaker 3>is kind of fun. You know, I just love seeing

0:32:56.560 --> 0:32:59.080
<v Speaker 3>the pool house. I love I actually love that Logan

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:02.600
<v Speaker 3>calls the answers and that Logan helped. He's like, I

0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:04.880
<v Speaker 3>got the PA you wanted at the price you wanted.

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 3>I kind of was like, you know what, all right,

0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm into that. I love the assistant. I love how

0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:16.480
<v Speaker 3>hard they're working, Like I love the whole thing. Yeah,

0:33:16.520 --> 0:33:18.560
<v Speaker 3>and then you know that assistant did all the work.

0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:21.320
<v Speaker 3>She was great.

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:27.960
<v Speaker 1>And then Paris shows up. Okay, I think I think

0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:32.680
<v Speaker 1>this was a great episode for Paris. I agree, really

0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:40.960
<v Speaker 1>really entertaining great lines. Her attitude shifted immediately into one

0:33:41.040 --> 0:33:46.080
<v Speaker 1>of servitude, well not serce service, let's say yeah to Rory.

0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:50.280
<v Speaker 1>I like that subtlety of Rory saying, and you actually

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Paris should be standing over there said, oh, yes, you're right,

0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:55.320
<v Speaker 1>I work for you.

0:33:56.760 --> 0:33:58.760
<v Speaker 3>There were parts I found amusing, but I didn't love

0:33:58.800 --> 0:33:59.880
<v Speaker 3>it as much as you guys did.

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh No, I love I loved her her not that

0:34:03.720 --> 0:34:06.480
<v Speaker 1>I agree with her, but I loved her anti capitalists

0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:12.799
<v Speaker 1>screed and her supportive Marxism going to oh you're going

0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:16.440
<v Speaker 1>to eat lunch now in your special room.

0:34:16.680 --> 0:34:18.880
<v Speaker 5>It just makes me think like no one could play

0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:22.960
<v Speaker 5>that character like the way Eliza did, like only brilliant.

0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:28.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I love this episode. I thought she was hilarious.

0:34:28.760 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 1>It was, it was. It was a lot of lass.

0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:31.440
<v Speaker 1>It was, it was.

0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:34.160
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't my favorite, but I love that you guys

0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:34.720
<v Speaker 3>loved it.

0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 1>I didn't.

0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:39.120
<v Speaker 7>I just was like, that was really enjoyable because she's,

0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:45.719
<v Speaker 7>you know, she's she's not being condescending to Rory or

0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:47.360
<v Speaker 7>really anybody else.

0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:51.919
<v Speaker 1>Now she's she's serving Rory, she's being a great about it.

0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:55.399
<v Speaker 1>Yet now she's she's she's railing.

0:34:56.080 --> 0:35:00.480
<v Speaker 3>Capital Oh my god, I know, it's support. I thought

0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:04.000
<v Speaker 3>it was a good juxtaposition from the Huntsburgers. So for

0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:07.400
<v Speaker 3>me it was like with their affluence and sort of

0:35:07.680 --> 0:35:11.000
<v Speaker 3>entitlement and all that. Then we get this other side

0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:14.480
<v Speaker 3>with Paris, who for the first time is realizing like

0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't have twenty dollars, Like I have.

0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:21.839
<v Speaker 1>Nothing, right, she automatically has to She's the proletariat. Now.

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:25.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was more amusing for me because of the

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 3>hunts Automatically.

0:35:27.040 --> 0:35:29.359
<v Speaker 1>She loses their trust. Well, she didn't never trust one.

0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:32.359
<v Speaker 1>It's four years away. Her parents accounts are frozen by

0:35:32.400 --> 0:35:36.160
<v Speaker 1>the I R S. She's penniless, so now she's proletariat.

0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:39.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, in a in a blink.

0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's so crazy. It was so funny. It was

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:45.399
<v Speaker 1>such a turn.

0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:50.320
<v Speaker 3>But here's my question. I've always thought it was diddally squatted.

0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:52.320
<v Speaker 3>She said, doodally squat.

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:54.400
<v Speaker 6>Oh have I been wrong?

0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:56.359
<v Speaker 1>One or the other. You can do either.

0:35:56.600 --> 0:36:01.160
<v Speaker 5>There's no ruly, Okay, I always say I said the

0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:02.040
<v Speaker 5>same as you, Amy.

0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:04.279
<v Speaker 3>I've never heard of doodley squat. But I was like,

0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:10.800
<v Speaker 3>tomato tomato tomato, right, Toodley diddly Okay. So I think

0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 3>even though the storyline with Luke and Laura Lai is

0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:19.600
<v Speaker 3>sort of dumb or yeah, dumb, I think you're right

0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:22.160
<v Speaker 3>Scott when you say whenever those two are together, it's

0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:24.920
<v Speaker 3>gonna be okay. And that's how I feel about the

0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:28.000
<v Speaker 3>kitchen scene. Like when you're making the pasta sauce and

0:36:28.120 --> 0:36:30.440
<v Speaker 3>you guys are arguing about the pasta sauce and the

0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:33.760
<v Speaker 3>weird green thing on the it's like kind of nothing,

0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 3>but I found it super amusing. And I think she

0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 3>makes sort of a joke about the gym time or

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:42.400
<v Speaker 3>something like, you know, then we see that I actually

0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:45.359
<v Speaker 3>was much more excited about the prospect of them going

0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:49.920
<v Speaker 3>to the recital together than this whole sideways thing of this, well,

0:36:49.960 --> 0:36:51.719
<v Speaker 3>you go do your thing and I'll do my thing.

0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:54.320
<v Speaker 3>Like I would have rather had them at the recital together.

0:36:54.360 --> 0:36:56.880
<v Speaker 3>That would have been as funny as Suki and Laura Lai.

0:36:57.080 --> 0:37:01.239
<v Speaker 1>Like, I don't know, I think it. I think I

0:37:01.239 --> 0:37:03.479
<v Speaker 1>think at that end of that scene, when the dance,

0:37:03.680 --> 0:37:06.720
<v Speaker 1>when it was over, after Kirk did his his birth

0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:16.359
<v Speaker 1>through desk h miming his performance art piece, you know,

0:37:16.760 --> 0:37:18.840
<v Speaker 1>when the glitter came with the dancers at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of it and they were very bombarded. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Ski had some good lines at that.

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<v Speaker 3>And right Luke Luke could have gone with Luke could

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<v Speaker 3>have chimed in and been totally a third.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he could have been.

0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:35.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's not like it had to he had to

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<v Speaker 5>replace Suki.

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:37.759
<v Speaker 3>They could have all gone to join.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know if I mean, if

0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:46.120
<v Speaker 1>you listen McCarthy delivering lines, I think you going.

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:49.400
<v Speaker 3>It takes me back to the graduation and Suki was

0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:51.160
<v Speaker 3>there and so was Luke, and they were all kind

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:53.360
<v Speaker 3>of making comments and it was totally amusing.

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Even then, they wouldn't have had this sort of fake

0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 1>tension between these two.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that, but I'm so does I.

0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:02.160
<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't have been able to win. Loop's character made them

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<v Speaker 1>all laptong.

0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:05.880
<v Speaker 3>I would have loved to see you covered in glitter.

0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:12.400
<v Speaker 3>That would have real. So we'll get to the recital.

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:15.360
<v Speaker 3>So first we go back, and now we're at dinner

0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:20.120
<v Speaker 3>and Rory's on her old timey phone and Emily and

0:38:20.200 --> 0:38:23.040
<v Speaker 3>Richard are talking, and this is sort of where Emily realizes,

0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:28.640
<v Speaker 3>like Rory's crushing this. They're turning people away. It's sold out,

0:38:28.680 --> 0:38:32.880
<v Speaker 3>like right, you know? So that was that was cool.

0:38:33.040 --> 0:38:34.360
<v Speaker 5>The theme really got people.

0:38:35.080 --> 0:38:39.480
<v Speaker 3>I don't know about the partitions. They weren't needed, and

0:38:39.800 --> 0:38:43.000
<v Speaker 3>I think we were talking about it off air, but

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<v Speaker 3>I'll just throw it out there now that we do

0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:47.880
<v Speaker 3>because we'll get to the party in a minute. We

0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:51.359
<v Speaker 3>did not care for the table claus that was there

0:38:51.440 --> 0:38:54.880
<v Speaker 3>was a flag with the blue and white checkered table clause.

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't want to forget to mention it so

0:38:58.560 --> 0:39:00.640
<v Speaker 3>because they don't match the theme. That was like more

0:39:00.680 --> 0:39:05.280
<v Speaker 3>of a you know, pick no down, as Suzanne said

0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:10.360
<v Speaker 3>off air, and not like a USO. They were a

0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:13.879
<v Speaker 3>bit jarring. They seemed too casual for me for the

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<v Speaker 3>for the event. Oh also, I have a flag the

0:39:18.680 --> 0:39:22.640
<v Speaker 3>cubed cheese with the olive on top. That's not an appetizer.

0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:25.480
<v Speaker 3>Did you guys see that? I was like, that's literally

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<v Speaker 3>a cheddar cheese cube with an olive on top with

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<v Speaker 3>it with.

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<v Speaker 4>Well maybe it was in the forties, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>With a bad toothpick, like an old toothpick with that

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<v Speaker 3>colored stuff at the top. I don't think they make

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<v Speaker 3>those anymore.

0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:42.520
<v Speaker 6>I mean, I'd be so hungry, I need like a

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<v Speaker 6>whole play to that.

0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:48.759
<v Speaker 3>I literally are a WTF. That appetizer is gross. I

0:39:48.800 --> 0:39:50.560
<v Speaker 3>can make that. That's not an appetizer.

0:39:50.760 --> 0:39:53.319
<v Speaker 5>No, that's like, that's like the stack you go, oh,

0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:54.880
<v Speaker 5>when you open your fridge and you're just trying to

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<v Speaker 5>find something to eat.

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<v Speaker 1>Accurate for the period?

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:05.000
<v Speaker 3>Was that a usop the forties? What were what time?

0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Was?

0:40:05.440 --> 0:40:06.520
<v Speaker 3>Were we in the forties?

0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:08.239
<v Speaker 1>That was World War Two? Sure?

0:40:08.600 --> 0:40:10.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was not an appetizer.

0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:14.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't think. Sure it was. It was simple, simple

0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:17.520
<v Speaker 1>cheese and crackers. People didn't start getting but there was

0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:20.279
<v Speaker 1>a cracker was It was just it was a.

0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:24.799
<v Speaker 3>Shield of cheddar cheese with a green olive. It was

0:40:25.000 --> 0:40:25.960
<v Speaker 3>really not good.

0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:30.120
<v Speaker 1>They didn't have time. They were too busy building weapons.

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<v Speaker 4>Probably everything else was being rationed and cheese and all

0:40:33.200 --> 0:40:35.439
<v Speaker 4>of us all they had left exactly.

0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:39.759
<v Speaker 3>I did like Rory's speech with the catering team. You

0:40:39.800 --> 0:40:43.480
<v Speaker 3>know she was so like, now go do.

0:40:42.640 --> 0:40:46.520
<v Speaker 4>You know like she really did you notice the huge

0:40:46.640 --> 0:40:49.000
<v Speaker 4>red welt that she had on her shoulder during that

0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:53.120
<v Speaker 4>scene that it was weird. Like when they're walking through

0:40:53.160 --> 0:40:55.359
<v Speaker 4>the dining room, she was fine, and then when she's

0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:57.000
<v Speaker 4>in the kitchen talking to the stuff, she has like

0:40:57.000 --> 0:40:59.520
<v Speaker 4>this big, like a giant red mark right on her

0:40:59.520 --> 0:41:01.080
<v Speaker 4>color back injury.

0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:03.120
<v Speaker 3>What about Logan's finger? Is it healed?

0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:06.480
<v Speaker 6>I oh that was last episode.

0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:07.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he had I know, but.

0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:10.480
<v Speaker 3>He had that thing for two episodes.

0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:15.440
<v Speaker 7>After two and a half years.

0:41:15.760 --> 0:41:19.440
<v Speaker 3>He was cheating while you were pregnant.

0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:20.040
<v Speaker 5>We're pregnant.

0:41:20.120 --> 0:41:21.400
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, about thirteen women.

0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:23.520
<v Speaker 5>More like if I would have stayed married to Max,

0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:25.719
<v Speaker 5>I think he would have achieved forever it was. It

0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:27.080
<v Speaker 5>was just toxic relationship.

0:41:27.160 --> 0:41:30.440
<v Speaker 3>Michael Coffin returns to wind Down with Janet Kramer.

0:41:32.160 --> 0:41:34.800
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0:41:35.280 --> 0:41:37.759
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0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:38.239
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0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:44.080
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0:41:46.000 --> 0:41:48.560
<v Speaker 3>Well, okay, before we talk about the party, let's talk

0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:53.160
<v Speaker 3>about the sad sack camping that was so dumb, just

0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:58.879
<v Speaker 3>Luke out there like fake camping. I don't remember.

0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:01.520
<v Speaker 5>Him camping as much as fishing or is that just me?

0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:05.319
<v Speaker 5>I think you're right, like he'd go fishing. I don't

0:42:05.320 --> 0:42:09.399
<v Speaker 5>remember him like going camping overnight, but I could be himself.

0:42:11.600 --> 0:42:14.960
<v Speaker 4>There was one time I'm trying to remember. I think

0:42:14.960 --> 0:42:19.000
<v Speaker 4>it was after that after Jess and Rory got in

0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:22.200
<v Speaker 4>the car accident and he left for a couple of days.

0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:24.919
<v Speaker 3>That's what I was going to say. He only goes

0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:28.680
<v Speaker 3>camping when he needs like alone time. Yeah, like when

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:29.760
<v Speaker 3>he's all upset.

0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:34.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he didn't really need it. I mean he stated

0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:38.560
<v Speaker 1>that very clearly, but I think an uncharacteristic.

0:42:39.440 --> 0:42:43.280
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so now let's talk about the party, o epic party.

0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:44.680
<v Speaker 3>First of all, mac and cheese.

0:42:46.080 --> 0:42:49.840
<v Speaker 5>I mean, Richard was thrilled to not have fancy food totally.

0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:51.800
<v Speaker 3>Richard was on fire.

0:42:51.880 --> 0:42:55.040
<v Speaker 5>His d dancing was amazing episode for him.

0:42:55.960 --> 0:42:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:42:56.760 --> 0:43:01.399
<v Speaker 3>So then incomes missus Huntsberger and Rory is really kind

0:43:01.440 --> 0:43:05.680
<v Speaker 3>of undone by that, and then really undone by Mitcham

0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:06.200
<v Speaker 3>being there.

0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:12.720
<v Speaker 5>That kind of shocked me. Why because I know she's

0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:16.160
<v Speaker 5>afraid of not afraid, that's not the right word. I

0:43:16.200 --> 0:43:20.040
<v Speaker 5>know that she's intimidated by what happened and by them

0:43:20.080 --> 0:43:23.480
<v Speaker 5>in the whole situation. But like, Rory's not one to

0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:26.960
<v Speaker 5>kind of just like fall apart like that in front

0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:30.359
<v Speaker 5>of people, and for her to like walk back into

0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:33.319
<v Speaker 5>the kitchen and like even Paris is like you look

0:43:33.400 --> 0:43:35.360
<v Speaker 5>pale or you know whatever she said and was like

0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:38.160
<v Speaker 5>what's wrong. It's like she did not want to do that,

0:43:38.200 --> 0:43:39.759
<v Speaker 5>and she by the way she held her own when

0:43:39.800 --> 0:43:43.040
<v Speaker 5>she went and took Shira to the table, but when

0:43:43.080 --> 0:43:45.840
<v Speaker 5>she saw Mitcham, it was like she was done and

0:43:45.880 --> 0:43:47.560
<v Speaker 5>it just kind of don't no.

0:43:47.520 --> 0:43:50.760
<v Speaker 3>It's it's just not Rory, Like, it's not Rory Rory

0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:53.080
<v Speaker 3>saying I hate her, I hate her, I hate her,

0:43:53.120 --> 0:43:55.799
<v Speaker 3>like three times. I just don't think Rory saying that

0:43:55.880 --> 0:44:01.200
<v Speaker 3>about her boyfriend's mom, like this is still low Hogan's parents,

0:44:01.360 --> 0:44:04.920
<v Speaker 3>and like she would just you know, I think she

0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:08.399
<v Speaker 3>would have been a little bit more together about it

0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:12.440
<v Speaker 3>and kind of like, you know, like even if she

0:44:12.480 --> 0:44:14.279
<v Speaker 3>hates her, she's going to be polite to her. That's

0:44:14.320 --> 0:44:15.120
<v Speaker 3>Logan's mom.

0:44:15.160 --> 0:44:17.040
<v Speaker 1>So if you forget it, then what what are we

0:44:17.239 --> 0:44:19.440
<v Speaker 1>watching them as an audience?

0:44:22.040 --> 0:44:26.680
<v Speaker 3>Well, I see where you're going with that, because.

0:44:26.440 --> 0:44:29.360
<v Speaker 1>Why you described was just very boring.

0:44:29.840 --> 0:44:30.200
<v Speaker 3>Boring.

0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:32.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, don't you think she would say it more about

0:44:32.760 --> 0:44:35.880
<v Speaker 5>Mitcham than Shira though, or.

0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:37.799
<v Speaker 3>I don't mind the meltdown. She could have just been

0:44:37.800 --> 0:44:40.200
<v Speaker 3>like freaking out, but just I hate her, I hate her,

0:44:40.280 --> 0:44:44.000
<v Speaker 3>I hate her. It's like, I don't know, that's so like.

0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:46.600
<v Speaker 5>Childish.

0:44:47.000 --> 0:44:49.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I was going to say babyish, yeah, and then

0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:52.240
<v Speaker 3>I thought like, well, it's not babyish, but it's just sort.

0:44:52.120 --> 0:44:58.799
<v Speaker 1>Of like I didn't mind it. I thought, uh, you know,

0:44:58.880 --> 0:45:01.320
<v Speaker 1>if we if we're they're trying to make a swallow

0:45:01.360 --> 0:45:05.040
<v Speaker 1>that this Mitcham situation crushed her to the point where

0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:06.759
<v Speaker 1>she left Yale and she just doesn't want to be

0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:12.320
<v Speaker 1>a journalist anymore, then we have to accept that she's

0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:16.319
<v Speaker 1>going to react or because it's an overreaction. Obviously now

0:45:17.360 --> 0:45:21.640
<v Speaker 1>she's overreacting just seeing him. So if we're buying that,

0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:25.960
<v Speaker 1>then we have to buy this it actually, you know,

0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:29.640
<v Speaker 1>so if you didn't buy into her being crushed by

0:45:29.640 --> 0:45:32.400
<v Speaker 1>the Mitcham thing, that you're obviously not going to be

0:45:32.480 --> 0:45:36.080
<v Speaker 1>buying into this behavior as well. But you know, this

0:45:36.239 --> 0:45:39.080
<v Speaker 1>is a big deal. This is a big moment in life, right,

0:45:39.200 --> 0:45:45.719
<v Speaker 1>So I think I do buy it. I actually do

0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:50.360
<v Speaker 1>buy it because Rory is sensitive. She's not She doesn't

0:45:50.360 --> 0:45:53.520
<v Speaker 1>have the armor that Laurel I grew up with and

0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:58.359
<v Speaker 1>had to construct and put on her her soul and

0:45:58.400 --> 0:46:04.000
<v Speaker 1>her psyche to defend herself against her parents. So what

0:46:04.160 --> 0:46:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Rory got was an incredibly strong, but incredibly loving, attentive mother,

0:46:14.960 --> 0:46:19.720
<v Speaker 1>And this is something that Laura I never really got.

0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:25.080
<v Speaker 1>So they're completely different personalities. So I kind of do

0:46:25.200 --> 0:46:29.040
<v Speaker 1>buy in that she's this sensitive and and and Alexis

0:46:29.239 --> 0:46:31.080
<v Speaker 1>is the kind of actress that you just sort of

0:46:31.120 --> 0:46:34.560
<v Speaker 1>want to protect. You know. She's got that personality where

0:46:34.600 --> 0:46:38.360
<v Speaker 1>she's very sweet, very vulnerable, so and so these people.

0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I do buy in that that she can get crushed

0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:45.480
<v Speaker 1>by these people. Yeah, and I think I kind of

0:46:45.480 --> 0:46:49.319
<v Speaker 1>because she's nothing like her mother in that regard. Right,

0:46:49.320 --> 0:46:51.000
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't have I agree with you.

0:46:51.880 --> 0:46:55.160
<v Speaker 4>She hasn't built that resilience that Laura I have because

0:46:55.160 --> 0:46:56.200
<v Speaker 4>she's never needed to.

0:46:56.680 --> 0:46:58.160
<v Speaker 1>Right, She's never needed to.

0:46:58.800 --> 0:47:02.520
<v Speaker 3>But you know who is like lor Lai what who?

0:47:03.120 --> 0:47:07.600
<v Speaker 3>Emily and Richard. That's where she gets it, especially Emily,

0:47:07.800 --> 0:47:10.880
<v Speaker 3>because we are about to see I mean Richard. Richard

0:47:11.080 --> 0:47:13.880
<v Speaker 3>was I guess you could say professional about it, but

0:47:13.960 --> 0:47:16.560
<v Speaker 3>he I saw him like with his fist, he wanted

0:47:16.600 --> 0:47:22.200
<v Speaker 3>to punch him and he's not. Richard didn't back down

0:47:22.320 --> 0:47:28.000
<v Speaker 3>to Mitcham. He really pushed Mitcham verbally without going over

0:47:28.040 --> 0:47:33.759
<v Speaker 3>the top, whereas Emily threw down and was smacking her

0:47:33.920 --> 0:47:34.960
<v Speaker 3>with her words.

0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:39.600
<v Speaker 1>It was like, I love I love these scenes. It

0:47:39.800 --> 0:47:45.200
<v Speaker 1>just shows that, you know how good at Herman was

0:47:45.360 --> 0:47:48.640
<v Speaker 1>as an actor. It's just the way it escalated the

0:47:48.719 --> 0:47:53.160
<v Speaker 1>choices that he made up the ladder of Anger, you know,

0:47:53.719 --> 0:47:56.920
<v Speaker 1>started out with a mini explosion.

0:47:56.400 --> 0:47:57.720
<v Speaker 3>And so what did you say?

0:47:57.880 --> 0:48:01.440
<v Speaker 1>What did right? Right? I mean really, I mean it

0:48:01.480 --> 0:48:05.400
<v Speaker 1>was five degrees. Every room on the ladder was touched

0:48:05.600 --> 0:48:07.600
<v Speaker 1>and it was just great to watch.

0:48:08.160 --> 0:48:10.839
<v Speaker 3>Really, I know, I wrote so juicy. The whole thing

0:48:10.920 --> 0:48:13.680
<v Speaker 3>was so juicy. And also I think there's something to

0:48:13.719 --> 0:48:19.320
<v Speaker 3>how tall Richard slash ed Herman is. He's so tall

0:48:19.400 --> 0:48:23.840
<v Speaker 3>that it actually even if Mitcham was quote the more powerful,

0:48:24.040 --> 0:48:27.160
<v Speaker 3>I really think Richard was the more powerful in that scene.

0:48:27.800 --> 0:48:30.640
<v Speaker 3>Like I thought he kind of schooled Richard a bit.

0:48:31.719 --> 0:48:36.319
<v Speaker 3>He was. I think Mitcham was a little scared, even

0:48:36.360 --> 0:48:40.719
<v Speaker 3>though he's I don't know Mitchen was so like I think, done.

0:48:40.640 --> 0:48:45.759
<v Speaker 1>This on the phone. Got two powerful guys, right, two

0:48:45.800 --> 0:48:51.120
<v Speaker 1>tough guys, business guys. Who are you know, they're hard asses,

0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:53.920
<v Speaker 1>these two guys. You know they're both super successful, and

0:48:54.400 --> 0:48:58.040
<v Speaker 1>nobody's backing down. I did exactly. And you know, Mitcham

0:48:58.160 --> 0:49:01.560
<v Speaker 1>is not gonna sugar owed anything or he's not gonna

0:49:01.600 --> 0:49:03.960
<v Speaker 1>lie about what he did. He's gonna own it, and

0:49:04.000 --> 0:49:06.479
<v Speaker 1>he owned it. But he did it in a way

0:49:06.560 --> 0:49:10.000
<v Speaker 1>where he thought he could sort of smooth over the

0:49:10.080 --> 0:49:14.000
<v Speaker 1>situation by being you know, like, hey, you know you're

0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:16.080
<v Speaker 1>a business guy. You would have done the same thing.

0:49:16.120 --> 0:49:18.880
<v Speaker 3>Come on, right, right, right, right, right right.

0:49:19.000 --> 0:49:22.880
<v Speaker 4>Richard was being more emotional about it, whereas Mitcham was

0:49:23.200 --> 0:49:27.560
<v Speaker 4>more business like, Yeah, have an emotional attachment to Rory

0:49:27.600 --> 0:49:28.319
<v Speaker 4>like Richard does.

0:49:28.440 --> 0:49:31.320
<v Speaker 5>I don't think Mitcham is an emotional person at all though,

0:49:31.400 --> 0:49:34.640
<v Speaker 5>like even for his own son, that's true, that's yeah,

0:49:34.719 --> 0:49:38.080
<v Speaker 5>Like he's not. Like I like how it wasn't even

0:49:38.120 --> 0:49:40.480
<v Speaker 5>an example of like, oh if logan it was like

0:49:40.840 --> 0:49:43.759
<v Speaker 5>if you had someone working for you know what I mean,

0:49:43.840 --> 0:49:46.400
<v Speaker 5>Like he can't even put himself in those shoes.

0:49:46.960 --> 0:49:51.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's a good point.

0:49:52.600 --> 0:49:55.719
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<v Speaker 3>Well, and we finally do know that the internship was

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<v Speaker 3>given because of the disastrous dinner, he says, after that

0:50:59.200 --> 0:51:02.439
<v Speaker 3>disastrous dinner with Shira and Pop and so you you

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<v Speaker 3>We've always known it, but now it's been acknowledged.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I think everything that we've talked about over

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<v Speaker 5>the last couple of weeks, like she stopped on the

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<v Speaker 5>Yale because of Mitchell, like it was all answered in

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<v Speaker 5>this one scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, so let's discuss how ugly a character and a

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<v Speaker 1>personality that Mitcham is. Do you agree with that statement?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think an odious character? Who is a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who you know, it's easy to criticize him because he

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<v Speaker 1>has this sort of militaristic discipline and this Bravora business acumen.

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<v Speaker 1>He knows how to build companies, and he knows he

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<v Speaker 1>really knows his business, and he doesn't waste time, and

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't mince words.

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<v Speaker 3>And mitcham, he's fine. I don't have a problem with him,

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<v Speaker 3>right do you?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh? Yeah, if you're if you've got the daughter of

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<v Speaker 1>a friend that you and your and your intention is

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<v Speaker 1>to make up for this mistreatment my family laid on

0:52:15.360 --> 0:52:21.160
<v Speaker 1>her by giving her a job. I think there's something

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<v Speaker 1>missing in him that can't see her talent. Everybody else

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<v Speaker 1>seems to see it, right, He's the only one that doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>And even if he believes, then he does, he believes

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<v Speaker 1>that she doesn't have it. Let's get rid of her.

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<v Speaker 1>There's another way to do that to preserve So here's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. A guy that has built up that

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<v Speaker 1>many newspapers and is that successful has got to have

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<v Speaker 1>the art of letting people down the right way, so

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<v Speaker 1>he's not creating enemies along the way. And that guy

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<v Speaker 1>created an enemy and a potentially very formidable enemy in

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<v Speaker 1>a future Rory and Rory's progeny, and in Richard and

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<v Speaker 1>in Emily, and that was just not something. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a smart move.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not something take it's fair, it's not my take.

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<v Speaker 1>Not really so much Rory's reaction to getting crushed. It's

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<v Speaker 1>really that the crushing happened at all. No, I agree, credulity.

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<v Speaker 3>My problem is not with Mitch. Mitcham is a businessman,

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<v Speaker 3>he's successful, he has all the right and it is

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<v Speaker 3>just my opinion he has all the right in the

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<v Speaker 3>world to behave however he wants to behave and run

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<v Speaker 3>his business. However, he wants to run his business, and

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<v Speaker 3>he doesn't need to coddle people, even if they're like

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<v Speaker 3>family friends.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not my modeling. Sorry, let me interrupt. It's not people.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not calling her. It's being mindful that there's a friendship.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a family behind her, they know each other, their

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<v Speaker 1>their kids are dating. There's got to be the dating thing.

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<v Speaker 1>There's got to be a sensitivity there towards that, and

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<v Speaker 1>in respect towards that. It's like he could have done

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<v Speaker 1>it another way.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, but my beef has always been with Rory. Sure, fair,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the dad in you. I appreciate all that. My

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<v Speaker 3>thing is.

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<v Speaker 1>More of an emotional intelligence thing. It's like, but he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't right, That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a little bit of an ass. So he's a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of an ass. He's a little bit too abrupt,

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<v Speaker 3>he doesn't have his bedside manners, not great whatever. My

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<v Speaker 3>beef has always been with Rory letting it be her undoing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, dude, this guy does not need to take

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<v Speaker 3>you down because he once said maybe you're not good enough.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just like, okay, come back strong. And he actually

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<v Speaker 3>acknowledged that.

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<v Speaker 5>I was about to say he said that, and it's

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<v Speaker 5>what I say.

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<v Speaker 3>And she should have done She should have come back harder,

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<v Speaker 3>or she should have worked harder, or she can do

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<v Speaker 3>what she wants. It's just my opinion. The person that's

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<v Speaker 3>not nice is missus Huntsburger. She is gross. She's like

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<v Speaker 3>and Emily was gross in this too. They were equally

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<v Speaker 3>just sort of you.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you accusing Emily being gross?

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<v Speaker 3>Because the things she said she couldn't done.

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<v Speaker 1>It was one of the great Gilmore speeches of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't I think she could say in her place?

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<v Speaker 3>Correct? I think she should put her in her place.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think she needed to do it by calling

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<v Speaker 3>her fat and saying her husband cheats on her. It's

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<v Speaker 3>like that part was gross. It's like Emily's better than that.

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<v Speaker 3>Be more clever, be better, and really do the same thing,

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<v Speaker 3>but be so smart about it that you own you

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<v Speaker 3>crush her without having to tell her her husband cheats

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<v Speaker 3>on her and she's I think the reason goes up.

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<v Speaker 5>And I did like Emily's little speech to her. I

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<v Speaker 5>do think the weight thing was low, but I think

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<v Speaker 5>she was trying to get as low as sheer it does.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think she would have like, yeah, I understand

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<v Speaker 5>it's not going.

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<v Speaker 1>Down to her level, so that Shira understands that she's

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<v Speaker 1>gotta she's fighting a bad ass to Then I would.

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<v Speaker 3>Have said it, this is what I get it, and

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<v Speaker 3>I love Emily, and I thought it was.

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<v Speaker 1>That you can understand you know that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you just do it a little bit more like, look,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know enough to know how I would do it,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think I would have said, you know more

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<v Speaker 3>of the like, don't you dare mess with me in

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<v Speaker 3>this way because I know where all the bodies are buried?

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<v Speaker 1>And but what what why not why address it at all?

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<v Speaker 1>If she's so hyphalutin done them, why not just not

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<v Speaker 1>even address it and then do things behind her back

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<v Speaker 1>to destroy her? And that there.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you go in through well, I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>it's over, but I think you go. I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>it's Emily is not the type to do it behind

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<v Speaker 3>her back. Emily is going to go to her face,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think Emily had plenty to say to her.

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<v Speaker 3>What It's just my opinion. You know, when two women

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<v Speaker 3>get at it, do it be stay classy, you know

0:57:16.600 --> 0:57:18.800
<v Speaker 3>what I mean, and you're gonna like it's gonna go

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<v Speaker 3>way further. In my opinion, that low blow was beneath

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<v Speaker 3>Emily when Emily's right, being right is the way better,

0:57:27.360 --> 0:57:36.000
<v Speaker 3>better win. Missus Huntsburger is a fool. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. What do you got? What do the what? U?

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<v Speaker 3>Tar and Suzanne think? Mmm, I mean, I've been to

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<v Speaker 3>this ring of fire.

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<v Speaker 4>It is definitely an iconic pill more moment like this

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<v Speaker 4>is the fans love that that Emily put her in

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<v Speaker 4>her place. I do see the point that maybe, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>the good emails, probably yeah, so hey. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know, I think Emily, I Amy. I do agree

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<v Speaker 4>with you that it didn't need to get that personal.

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<v Speaker 4>But at the same time, it was it was fun

0:58:18.080 --> 0:58:20.360
<v Speaker 4>to watch, like it was fun to see somebody take

0:58:20.440 --> 0:58:26.200
<v Speaker 4>Shira down a notch because she is so horrible and

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<v Speaker 4>so elitist and snobby, and so it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's why I liked the dig. That's why I

0:58:32.440 --> 0:58:36.080
<v Speaker 3>liked the dig better. When she said you were nothing

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<v Speaker 3>until you yea wormed your way into the Mitchen's life,

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<v Speaker 3>that to me was like putting her in her place,

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<v Speaker 3>saying you were less than even us or whatever. Like

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<v Speaker 3>the whole thing is. Look, I have to acknowledge, the

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<v Speaker 3>whole thing is pretty gross, right, Like we have missed

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<v Speaker 3>the same in many you have are many, We've done

0:58:59.160 --> 0:59:01.360
<v Speaker 3>many too in these kids. You can see it's just

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<v Speaker 3>like ugh. If I was like, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>be any it's just not me. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>be a part of any of that because it's gross.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's gross.

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<v Speaker 5>I definitely think that like the one I mean, I

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<v Speaker 5>agree the weight thing was, I would have not said that.

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<v Speaker 5>I think the husband cheated on you know. And then

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<v Speaker 5>the line that she said leading into her speech about money,

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, did we really need It's like, I

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<v Speaker 5>just I understand money is so important to them, but

0:59:29.200 --> 0:59:31.200
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, did we need that? It's just I don't know,

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<v Speaker 5>Like I see what you say, Amy.

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<v Speaker 3>Like Olivia Pope would not have said it that way. Yeah,

0:59:37.800 --> 0:59:38.960
<v Speaker 3>that's my point.

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<v Speaker 6>That's a very good Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>That Olivia Pope would have gone up. For those that

0:59:44.240 --> 0:59:47.320
<v Speaker 3>don't know, this is from scandal, Olivia Pope carry Washington

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<v Speaker 3>from scandal. Yep, she would have gone up. She still

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<v Speaker 3>would have gotten her grill and she would have put

0:59:52.400 --> 0:59:56.000
<v Speaker 3>her in her place, but she would have done it

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<v Speaker 3>different and it would have been smarter, and it would

0:59:58.640 --> 1:00:03.439
<v Speaker 3>have been more would have been harsher in a way, like.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let me ask you this, knowing now what

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<v Speaker 1>we know about missus Huntsburger, if Emily is able to

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<v Speaker 1>get down on her level and talk to her in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that's going to rip her the most, do

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<v Speaker 1>you do you think that that proves that that's maybe

1:00:28.880 --> 1:00:30.440
<v Speaker 1>where Emily came from too.

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<v Speaker 3>No, because Emily's fancy. I think Emily's pretty fancy.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we know a lot about Emily's background?

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<v Speaker 3>We know enough.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, she went to Yale with with Richard, Like it

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<v Speaker 5>sounds like Shira didn't go to Yale.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Emily went to Yale.

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<v Speaker 1>She went.

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<v Speaker 3>Right nearby.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this this comes up a lot because Yale wasn't

1:00:58.000 --> 1:00:59.920
<v Speaker 4>co ed at the time. So she went to.

1:01:02.440 --> 1:01:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Smith. I think she went to Smith, right.

1:01:05.560 --> 1:01:07.720
<v Speaker 5>Those things that she went to the games with with

1:01:07.840 --> 1:01:09.760
<v Speaker 5>Richard and stuff, That's why I made me think of that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and had like your all male schools and then

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<v Speaker 4>they would do things with the all female schools and

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<v Speaker 4>like games and mixers and things.

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<v Speaker 5>It sounds like Emily is this is I don't want

1:01:23.560 --> 1:01:25.240
<v Speaker 5>to come off the wrong way. It sounds like the

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<v Speaker 5>way she's saying is that Emily is educated and Shira

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<v Speaker 5>is not.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and Emily comes from quality stuck as opposed to

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<v Speaker 3>Shira whom Yeah, she just yeah, Look, I just feel.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 3>I look, I feel like I'm all about the confrontation.

1:01:49.640 --> 1:01:53.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm into it and putting her in her place. I

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<v Speaker 3>just thought there was a lot of like low blow jazz,

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<v Speaker 3>like I think about Emily and Penalin lot like they

1:02:00.160 --> 1:02:02.479
<v Speaker 3>didn't do that. But you know what I'm saying, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I was very satisfying to hear that speak.

1:02:06.200 --> 1:02:09.680
<v Speaker 5>Look, I love the I said, I love the I

1:02:09.760 --> 1:02:12.160
<v Speaker 5>think it was satisfying because we've been waiting for this

1:02:12.280 --> 1:02:16.640
<v Speaker 5>moment for like Richard and Emily to snap out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It really was, we just had to go in an

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<v Speaker 1>empty outer yea reload and empty and again you know

1:02:23.880 --> 1:02:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Emily couldn't be.

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<v Speaker 3>A little Caddy. I think I didn't. I don't love

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't love it when she was very catty about

1:02:28.960 --> 1:02:31.200
<v Speaker 3>that constant woman either and they were like it was

1:02:31.320 --> 1:02:34.840
<v Speaker 3>very gossipy and Caddy. It's just not I don't love it.

1:02:35.040 --> 1:02:37.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't hate it. I just don't love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's it's interesting because you know we see Emily

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<v Speaker 1>not being her best but while she's being her best self.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, you know, I think there's some I think,

1:02:55.600 --> 1:02:57.840
<v Speaker 3>look and I'm maybe going on a tangent and everybody

1:02:57.840 --> 1:03:02.000
<v Speaker 3>can like rip me. In Missus masl you have some

1:03:02.040 --> 1:03:05.880
<v Speaker 3>similar there's confrontation. I feel like as a writer, it's

1:03:05.880 --> 1:03:09.880
<v Speaker 3>almost like the writing has evolved and become better. The

1:03:09.960 --> 1:03:13.680
<v Speaker 3>mic drops are sort of I don't know, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>quite as Caddy. It's a little bit more like I said,

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<v Speaker 3>Olivia Pope was trying to think of another person like

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<v Speaker 3>in Mazel. There's definitely confrontations that are written.

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<v Speaker 1>Better. Sure, I mean, artists continue to learn and grow,

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<v Speaker 1>uh per project, so you know, everything that they learned

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<v Speaker 1>from Gilmour, they took it too.

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<v Speaker 5>It was also written by definitely what it was written

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<v Speaker 5>by d damn.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, really I just have to maybe, Okay, so I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just gonna throw something crazy out there. Y'all can yell

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<v Speaker 3>at me, everybody yell at me. The confrontation was written

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<v Speaker 3>the way a man would do that confrontation, not the

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<v Speaker 3>way a baller woman, oh would have that conferdation.

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<v Speaker 5>I can really see that now that I now that

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<v Speaker 5>we're digging more into like watching it.

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<v Speaker 3>Women just don't. I don't. I just don't think they.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't like I think certain women would.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think not all.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think throwing down would Emily.

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<v Speaker 3>No, because you know what, menat pauses a bitch and

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<v Speaker 3>nobody's gonna throw down. No sixty something year old woman

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<v Speaker 3>is throwing down on another woman about weight going up

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<v Speaker 3>and down not happening, especially those women. No way that

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<v Speaker 3>would bond them, just saying they'd be like, oh no, girl,

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<v Speaker 3>right sucks.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess Dan was trying to write something where it

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be easy to understand that, and it

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<v Speaker 1>had to be clear that Emily was done with this woman,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so it had to Yeah, maybe you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you're right. I don't disagree with that.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll let everybody weigh in, because now maybe Emily would

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<v Speaker 3>have would have squashed her like a bug.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, it's an interesting point. It's an interesting point. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a man can't write that monologue. Yeah maybe maybe, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>interesting point. You're still bombarded, gonna.

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<v Speaker 3>Get I will get. Yeah, I'm anxious to read because

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, it's interesting. It was good, know and look,

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<v Speaker 3>it might be my twenty twenty three eyes, but like

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<v Speaker 3>fat is not all right?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, rough dude, it's I understand, but it's like I

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<v Speaker 1>got it.

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<v Speaker 3>And the cheating one you could have done classier but

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<v Speaker 3>still done it. I could have I could have been

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<v Speaker 3>here for that. Do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>That one?

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<v Speaker 3>I would have written it different. Yeah, just saying everybody

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<v Speaker 3>weigh in. I'm not saying I'm right. I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 3>that was sort of hang on.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, I just got a text. It's amen, Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>they want us to rewrite the episode. Congratulations.

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<v Speaker 6>I thought you actually got a text. I was like,

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<v Speaker 6>what happened?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay? We give our ratings and I didn't do favorite lines,

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<v Speaker 3>although I did have a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh there's so many going.

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<v Speaker 3>Through my paper. Was my favorite line.

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<v Speaker 5>What was great?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, it was so.

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<v Speaker 5>Read it.

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<v Speaker 1>No, let's do favorite lines. Taraw, what's your Okay, that's

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<v Speaker 1>your taraw? What's your favorite line?

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<v Speaker 5>I honestly like that line too.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, but you're not able to like, you can't do

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<v Speaker 1>jokes on top of other people's jokes. You can't do

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<v Speaker 1>favorite lines on top of Yeah. Yeah, that's a new

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<v Speaker 1>rule that was slipped in and during a vacation where

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<v Speaker 1>nobody attended, got it, just like they do in Washington.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, they passed the bill. So now you can't

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<v Speaker 1>do so you're gonna have to pick another one.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll come back to that favorite line.

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<v Speaker 4>So I have to acknowledge it's not my favorite line,

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<v Speaker 4>but I have to acknowledge when Richard said what she tackles,

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<v Speaker 4>she conquers, because that's like a classic borism. But my

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<v Speaker 4>favorite line was actually Laurel I when she saw Luke

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<v Speaker 4>coming back from camping, and she says, why are you

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<v Speaker 4>back so soon? Were the woods closed?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that was funny. That actually was funny. It

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<v Speaker 3>was delivered so.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, Tara, I don't have one.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm so sorry on there were a lone. Honestly, anything,

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<v Speaker 5>Paris says usually gets a laugh out of me, so right.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Paris had a lot of great lines. I

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<v Speaker 1>really the one I truly remember the best is a

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<v Speaker 1>laurelized line at the end. It's like you would have

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<v Speaker 1>you would have thought they ran out of glitter.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, I got Yeah. That was good.

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<v Speaker 1>She was there born. It's like a lot of glitter. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what are we rating, Tara?

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<v Speaker 5>I am going I actually really minus the the Luke

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<v Speaker 5>and Laurel I storyline. I really liked the episode. I

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<v Speaker 5>am going to give it eight point nine mm Suki

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<v Speaker 5>cold sandwiches.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Suzanne, what are you? What are you rating it?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm kind of hot and cold on this episode. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going to give it seven handfuls of.

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<v Speaker 3>Glitter, eight velcrow wallets.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, let me see, I'm going to give it.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, since Paris provided most of the humor, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to give it nine point one Communist manifestos. Sure I

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed the episode. I have to enjoyed it, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's gonna wrap it up, ladies and germs. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>to Susanne Amy. Uh, what a guess it's been Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>to the best fans on the planet. Thanks for downloading,

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<v Speaker 1>a feeling you're gonna weigh in on this a little bit,

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