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Speaker 2: I am all in with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast one

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Speaker 1: of the productions I Heart Radio, uh Season six, episode five,

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Speaker 1: We Got Magic to Do. I am joined by my

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Speaker 1: Intrepid crew, and what a crew it is. Of crew

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Speaker 1: of cruise. We just want a Crewey and I've got

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Speaker 1: tar Suit, I've got Suzanne French. You know her, you

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Speaker 1: love her, You're getting to really love Susanne French. Amy

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Speaker 1: still recovering from that little We want a Crewey, we

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Speaker 1: want a Crooey and Amy Sugarman. There she is, There,

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Speaker 1: she is Suzanne. What's it like being already enshrined into

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Speaker 1: the podcasting hall of fame? As it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, dare we say the fan? What's like to be

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Speaker 3: the fan favorite? Even though Scott and I've been trying

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Speaker 3: for years.

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Speaker 4: It's it's really it's really stressful, actually, because I feel

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Speaker 4: like I can't even make the smallest mistake. And I

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Speaker 4: was listening to last week's episode and realized that I

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Speaker 4: read something wrong in the synopsis. And I don't know

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Speaker 4: if it was written wrong or my brain just substituted it,

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Speaker 4: but I feel like a failure, so I that, yeah,

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Speaker 4: it hasn't been so I have a couple of therapy

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Speaker 4: sessions and I should be okay soon.

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Speaker 3: It's that might have it easier because the bar is

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Speaker 3: so low for us.

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Speaker 5: And then I'm like right in the middle. O, no,

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Speaker 5: I would, I would put you up there.

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Speaker 3: And so I don't see a lot of critiques.

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Speaker 5: I did get someone who says something nice and I

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Speaker 5: only saw it because they tagged me.

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Speaker 3: What did they say? What did they say?

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Speaker 5: They said, I'll pull it up.

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Speaker 3: Well a shout out, because I haven't getten a lot

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Speaker 3: of people agreeing with me lately. So I'm feeling pretty

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Speaker 3: good and I hope I don't blow it.

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Speaker 6: They called me the queen, That's what it was.

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Speaker 3: Queen, You're the queen though that's never happened for scotton me. Oh,

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Speaker 3: I have some hot takes on this episode, so we'll

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Speaker 3: see how it goes.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 1: I think it's time for a little plug here.

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Speaker 3: Oh we love a plug.

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Speaker 1: Let's all gather at MotorCity Comic Con fans. I will

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Speaker 1: be there November ten, eleven twelve, So go to Motorcitycomic

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Speaker 1: Con dot com. And also I'm going to be a

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Speaker 1: Galaxy con Columbuscember two and three, Columbus, Ohio.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why are you so dressed up?

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Speaker 1: I'm not. It's a little chili in the in the

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Speaker 1: unit here, and I just put on a shirt. I

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Speaker 3: Wait, your shirt is super nice and your glasses are

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Speaker 3: super cool.

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Speaker 1: Are the is new? No, I've had these glasses for

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Speaker 1: a couple of years.

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Speaker 3: I feel like you don't wear them enough.

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Speaker 6: Maybe a combo of the shirt and the glasses.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Do I look like a literature professor?

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Speaker 3: You look a little bit like a professor.

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Speaker 4: You have elbow patches almost, they're good?

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Speaker 3: No, looking good?

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Speaker 1: Oh? I got my shirt on. I only brought the wine.

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Speaker 1: I brought it one.

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Speaker 3: I brought one from the set. Do they frown upon that?

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Speaker 1: I don't like to. I sometimes pill for socks because

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Speaker 3: And people don't want to wear that. They're not going

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Speaker 1: It's great, especially not my socks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, little right right among us. No, I will

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Speaker 3: admit I have he's had a bout with that because

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Speaker 3: my brothers, like when we were on vacation, we'd have

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Speaker 1: But anyway, that's why I have shower shoes. It's tough

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Speaker 3: Mice already had separations though it wasn't It was like

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Speaker 1: get I understand. Yeah, So is everybody watching Sullivan's Crossing?

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Speaker 1: Are you breath watching each episode? What do you think?

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Speaker 3: I don't want to have a spoiler, wow, because there

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Speaker 1: What was that?

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Speaker 3: Am I right? I don't want to ruin it.

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Speaker 1: I think that's enough. That's good.

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Speaker 1: There are ten cliffhangers. There's ten episodes, and there's ten

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Speaker 1: ten cliffhangers at the end of each episode. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: so CW Wednesday nights, eight pm, seventh Central, check it out. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: who's synopsizing? Is it Suzanne Frank?

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Speaker 3: She doesn't blow it again.

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Speaker 4: I know, I gotta like get my act together here,

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Speaker 4: So let me give this a try, all right. We

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Speaker 4: have season six, episode five, We've Got Magic to do

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Speaker 4: This aired on October eleventh, two thousand and five.

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Speaker 3: The stove catches.

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Speaker 4: Fire at the end, and laurel I has to call

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Speaker 4: Richard to deal with the insurance money. Rory organizes a

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Speaker 3: So much to discuss.

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Speaker 4: This was a episode I was waiting for foremost and

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Speaker 4: foremost the hunt, So I'm gonna just get decor out

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Speaker 3: The Huntsburger's house, which we only briefly saw in the recap,

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Speaker 1: And it's it's like a Hampton's house. It's like a

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Speaker 3: It's beyond it's amazing. Whoever came in and actually did

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Speaker 3: the design of that pool house and get me their number, seriously.

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Speaker 3: And I will refer to it throughout this conversation as

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Speaker 3: face acting, because there was a lot of face acting

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Speaker 3: in this Yep, yeah, Richard, Emily Luke.

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Speaker 6: You're right now that no, I mean I saw it

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Speaker 3: Leanne Hunley, Missus Huntsberger. Face acting.

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Speaker 1: It's called listening. All I have to do is listen

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Speaker 1: and then your face will act it.

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Speaker 3: Oh. I feel like.

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Speaker 1: Your eyes will reflect it, your thoughts will will form

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Speaker 1: the facial acting expressions. Face acting.

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Speaker 3: Kelly Bishop with some intense face acting, But I digress.

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Speaker 1: I tell you something. We've redefined the acting terms. You

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Speaker 1: a book Great Face Acting with Amy.

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Speaker 3: And Unbelievable Dancing by Richard and Emily, because I believe

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Speaker 3: Kelly Bishop was like a professional ballerina, yes, a.

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Speaker 1: Dancer, jazz dancer, the whole thing, yea.

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Speaker 5: And that's why she was on butnheads.

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Speaker 3: That's why she was on butnheads, which stay tuned. Amy

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Speaker 3: you worry? Uh? Okay, So we do the recap, which

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Speaker 3: in my entire life. It was Yeah, I hated that

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Speaker 1: I hate you did tell us why let's get into it.

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Speaker 4: I didn't like I mean we you guys have talked

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Speaker 4: that comes up a lot is the fat shaming, and

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Speaker 1: What was said specifically.

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Speaker 4: Well, when they pull out the giant pair of pink

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Speaker 5: A size or something, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Something about I'd hate to be wrapped around the woman

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Speaker 4: just that they were doing it for humor value, I guess,

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Speaker 3: It wasn't good. It gets worse when Emily goes too.

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Speaker 3: That was. That was rough, but we'll talk about that

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Speaker 3: a velcrow wallet has to go as well.

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Speaker 4: Yes, you could see.

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Speaker 3: Luke kind of like having that. How I can't make

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Speaker 1: Hey, maybe I can face act the velcrow hang.

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Speaker 3: That was actually really good. And I did love when

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Speaker 3: I I like the ring. I like that I'm seeing that.

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Speaker 1: Then it was all yeah, kind of what she had

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was. It was all fine, nothing.

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Speaker 1: Like, hey, when you see those two together, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: you know that Suzanne's gonna throw the flag right, it's

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Speaker 1: I don't mind those two together.

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Speaker 3: The part I didn't get was Luke and Jackson bickering.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, why were they doing that? Like those two

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Speaker 3: get along? I didn't. I didn't really. You know, when

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Speaker 3: you're trying to fig you're out the oven situation and

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Speaker 3: they are bickering and don't really get that. I was like,

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Speaker 3: those two are They're not going to bicker, They're going

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Speaker 3: to be in it together. But I mean, whatever, tiny

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Speaker 3: tiny flag, the.

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Speaker 1: Lines are there. You got it. You gotta say them.

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Speaker 3: I don't know them, do you know? Oh you're saying.

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Speaker 3: I know you're saying. I needed to say right now, right,

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Speaker 3: you had to say them correct.

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Speaker 1: Whether the lines are there, right, you gotta make it.

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Speaker 3: If you don't think in tracks right, right, there's nothing

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Speaker 3: get it's a ploy to get Richard there, but that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you put on a great party, that's

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Speaker 5: And get back in the mix.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll talk about Paris. For me, was not enough

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Speaker 3: But this is the scene I disliked the most. Coming

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Speaker 3: There's parts of it that I loved. The dinner looked amazing,

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Speaker 1: It's awful. Did anybody feel like this is all? I

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Speaker 5: Like that, Well, that was my I was like the top.

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Speaker 3: This kid can't walk. I barely think you doesn't. It's

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Speaker 5: It was very out of pocket with this episode too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how to pocket Wow, Tara Wow.

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Speaker 4: My I agree with that. My husband was watching it

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Speaker 4: why is this scene even in this episode? And they're

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Speaker 4: trying to show how patient Luke is with all of this, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: So I don't hate the episode, but the scene is.

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Speaker 3: But the other thing is, like, there, Luke is not

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Speaker 3: To be his dinner. All he would have taken his

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Speaker 1: Or at least given a couple of looks, you know, turn.

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Speaker 5: His chair the dog right, Like I understand what they

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Speaker 5: Luke is you know, he's here to port Laura. He

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Speaker 5: But we didn't need this. Why I feel like we

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Speaker 3: Not like I don't know how to say this. This

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Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, he comes back all butt

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Speaker 3: Really he's not doing that. He would have never gone camping.

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Speaker 3: He would have been like Laura, I'm going to the

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Speaker 1: he didn't react. He didn't say, well you don't have

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Speaker 5: It was Yeah, I forgot about this little storyline, but

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Speaker 5: Like she could have been like, hey, want to night

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry if I felt she did not want him

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Speaker 5: She just left.

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Speaker 1: She just walked out of the diner. You would expect

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Speaker 5: She just left.

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Speaker 1: It was a weird storyline.

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Speaker 4: She wasn't trying to get rid of him. She was

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Speaker 1: You just say I was having Wi Fi issues and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because she kind of has a look on her face,

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Speaker 1: Bad because it's okay that she wants to have a

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Speaker 3: It's sure that he wants to go camping.

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Speaker 1: It just just wants to go camping. It's all okay,

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Speaker 1: But it just they tried to turn it as something

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like an E or an F storyline that

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Speaker 3: although the dinner looked unbelievably delicious, and the storyline is

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00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 3: a little off that Luke and Laura are going to

442
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 3: be having this sort of problem, but.

443
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 1: Everything else was pretty darn great.

444
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 3: So that let's get to Emily and Richard you can

445
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 3: relate to me are the highlight of this whole. So first, Emily's.

446
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 1: A little.

447
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 3: Weird about Rory taking on the event, and I thought

448
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 3: it was because she was jealous, but I actually think

449
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 3: now it was because she was nervous about it.

450
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. You can see going back to that

451
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 4: scene where they were sitting on the patio when somebody

452
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 4: suggested that Rory take it over, Emily looked very worried.

453
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 4: He's not sure that Rory can is ready for that

454
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,439
Speaker 4: step yet, which I thought was interesting because in the

455
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 4: last episode she did that dar event she was stuck

456
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 4: in Helsinki and she did a great job. So I

457
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 4: thought that was interesting that she was so nervous about Rory.

458
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 3: It was just a little bizarre. Yeah, I don't care

459
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,239
Speaker 3: about a salmon puff, although I want to try one,

460
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever had one. But I love

461
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 3: that Richard has all the confidence in the world and.

462
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 5: Rory always always.

463
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 3: People say I say always, but I'm saying always. It's

464
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 3: like he really believes in her more than anybody. Which

465
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 3: we'll get to the face acting at the end of

466
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 3: the episode in a minute. My one flag though, so

467
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 3: he says something like she knew facts of this at three,

468
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,679
Speaker 3: and she knew this at five, and she knew this

469
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 3: at ten. Well, like if they were sort of estranged,

470
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 3: did he really know all that? I mean, I think

471
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 3: they saw each other from time to time, but.

472
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 4: I think they saw each other on holidays.

473
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,360
Speaker 5: Do you think also Loralai would tell them like, oh,

474
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 5: my daughter knows this and that.

475
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,360
Speaker 3: But I think they know it now, right, I think.

476
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: And conversations that have when they reconnected at the beginning

477
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: of the show, then they've had those conversations at the

478
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: dinner table. I kind of just stuff that we weren't

479
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: privy to that they just wanted to get to the conflict.

480
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 3: And yeah, I kind of thought that too, right, Yeah,

481
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 3: so okay, So then now we go to the scene

482
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 3: in the kitchen with Richard and Laura Lai sort of

483
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 3: reunited because of the insurance situation, and it was pretty caustic,

484
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 3: Like Loralai was really caustic. I think she says, how

485
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,959
Speaker 3: are the Hamburglers or something?

486
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 1: Hamburgers?

487
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, thing, yeah, and he's like they're fine. People's misunderstanding.

488
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 3: And then that poor guy with the weird digital camera

489
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 3: just in there for that awkwardness.

490
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 5: I thought he was at one called for like her

491
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 5: timing at least, or like the way she came off

492
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 5: like we I understand you're trying to like get Rory

493
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 5: back to Yale, but it just was like your dad

494
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 5: came to help you for an insurance thing and the kids,

495
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 5: like it just wasn't the right.

496
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 4: Time, Like she was almost trying to pick a fight.

497
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was trying to pick.

498
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 4: But at the same time, it always has bothered me

499
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 4: that throughout this string of episodes, Richard and Emily just

500
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 4: assumed from the get go that Laura I was lying

501
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 4: about the whole thing, and she could have just ask

502
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 4: Rory what happened at dinner at the Huntsburgers that night,

503
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 4: and they never did yea, And that always kind of

504
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 4: bothered me, like they just assumed that Lorelai is lying,

505
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 4: So therefore we're not even going to try to find

506
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 4: out if anything really happened.

507
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: Yet, let me interject here that laurel I has done

508
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 1: and said some pretty bizarre things over the past six seasons.

509
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, her credibility with them is not

510
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: I would say, sterling silver.

511
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 3: Even because she's so sort of sarcastic or.

512
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can see that, and I agree with that,

513
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 4: but in this particular situation where it would be so

514
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 4: easy to just ask Rory the next time she.

515
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: Walked in the room.

516
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 4: And they don't even think to do that, Like they

517
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 4: never asked Rory what happened at the Huntsburgers. They just

518
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 4: automatically assumed that, well, they're very nice people. That couldn't

519
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 4: have happened. And so I that just has bothered me

520
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 4: in all of these episodes.

521
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 3: Or maybe they're in denial they don't want to deal

522
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 3: like not that I think they want it to not

523
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 3: be true. Yeah, you know what I mean, Like, if

524
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 3: you want something to not be true, you don't want

525
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 3: to go digging to make it true because it's really

526
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 3: a dig on them. The last of it was a

527
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 3: dig that the that the Gillmores aren't worthy of the Huntsburgers, right,

528
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 3: And I think.

529
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: And Rory is not going to go to her parents

530
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 1: and be a whiny tattle tale about it, you know,

531
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: because she respects their relationship with the hunts Burgers and

532
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: she just you know, she don't want to deal with it,

533
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: you know. But I agree that you know, it all

534
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: could have But then then wor'st the worst the build

535
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,959
Speaker 1: up over the many episodes or how many episodes, you know,

536
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 1: how many episodes ago did that happen. That was what

537
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: episode one or two? I think, so we're like, no, no, no, no,

538
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: it's not been that's right, it was.

539
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,479
Speaker 3: In It was seven episodes ago. It is the end

540
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 3: of the finale, so it's about seven to eight episodes.

541
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: Okay, So that's you know, that's a good wait waiting

542
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: period for the tension to keep building in the audience,

543
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: to keep acting asking when the heck is this going

544
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: to get resolved? And bannedit they deliver. So I think

545
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: it was pretty ingeniously of the whole production and the

546
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: whole writing team to delay it.

547
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 3: I agree with you. I I don't mind.

548
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: Would you would you rather have it resolved right away

549
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: because they believe Rory and just have it done, or

550
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: would you rather wait what's more important?

551
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 3: I would rather wait for what we got with the

552
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 3: blow up between them, right.

553
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: And I think that's been the whole strategy for all

554
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: of these characters, all these storylines. Let's drag them out

555
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: as much as we can, and if we got a

556
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: couple of flags thrown up on us, so be it.

557
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 3: And I don't think she I don't think Rory would

558
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 3: have I think she would have not told them, She

559
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 3: wouldn't have lied, but she maybe would have. She's so

560
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 3: still shaken sideways by.

561
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: It and and probably embarrassed by it.

562
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, Scott, because.

563
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: Maybe there's a part of her that feels like they're right.

564
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: So she so she's her confidence took a hit. She

565
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: doesn't really want to come out full guns because she can't.

566
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 3: That's right. A lot of her thinks it's real. That's

567
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 3: the whole right, Not so much the dinner, but what

568
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 3: Mitcham said at the paper, she quit Yale because of it.

569
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 3: She gives these people so much power. So obviously she's

570
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 3: not going to talk about it.

571
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: But it is. But it is kind of, uh, you know,

572
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: it's that something such such an event, such an extreme

573
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: decision to drop out of Yale and move into the poolhouse.

574
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: You know that they didn't have a deeper talk with

575
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: her about it and really like, you know, you know,

576
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: try it out of her almost like what happened? You know? Why?

577
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: Why weren't they more curious? You know?

578
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 5: Do you think they just didn't want to lose her

579
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 5: again because like they didn't have her as a her

580
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 5: growing up as a kid, they didn't have her around

581
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 5: like they do now. So do you think it was

582
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 5: just like, we'll do whatever she wants.

583
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 3: So she stays in a take when she was crying

584
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 3: and hugging him. Yeah, and he didn't care about anything,

585
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 3: but just like doing what she wanted needed making her

586
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 3: feel better, Like he just isn't going to stand up

587
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 3: to her and have a conversation about it. When she's

588
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 3: like crying to her grandpa, right, He's just like, Okay,

589
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 3: you know what, fine, whatever you want, we'll take care

590
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 3: of you, right.

591
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean she's the golden child. They'll give her

592
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 4: whatever she wants because the one that, you know, falls

593
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 4: in line with what they want, the family image that

594
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 4: they want, and so they're gonna, you know, go along

595
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 4: with what Rory wants because them.

596
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, there is there definitely is a logic to it.

597
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 5: And just to go back to the conversation about like

598
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,959
Speaker 5: the Huntsburgers, like Emily and Richard look at them like

599
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 5: they are so important. You can even see it when

600
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 5: they're at the slush table, like yeah, like why'd you

601
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 5: put them there? You can see like they kind of

602
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 5: in well not anymore, but they can do no wrong

603
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 5: in Emily and Richard's eyes up until this moment.

604
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 3: Well, which is why the Huntsburgers act the way they

605
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 3: act because everyone treats them like royalty, and so they

606
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 3: act idiotic.

607
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 4: It's so and Emily even said, there's people and then

608
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 4: there's the Huntsburgers, like she's already acknowledging that they're not

609
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 4: are above them, Like that's oh.

610
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 3: It's so gross. It's so gross. It's so gross. I

611
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 3: hope I never act like that. Oh I don't know.

612
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 3: That just makes me gag, but true. So we go

613
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: to the scene then in the pool house, which this

614
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 3: is kind of fun. You know, I just love seeing

615
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 3: the pool house. I love I actually love that Logan

616
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 3: calls the answers and that Logan helped. He's like, I

617
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 3: got the PA you wanted at the price you wanted.

618
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 3: I kind of was like, you know what, all right,

619
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 3: I'm into that. I love the assistant. I love how

620
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 3: hard they're working, Like I love the whole thing. Yeah,

621
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 3: and then you know that assistant did all the work.

622
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 3: She was great.

623
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: And then Paris shows up. Okay, I think I think

624
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: this was a great episode for Paris. I agree, really

625
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: really entertaining great lines. Her attitude shifted immediately into one

626
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: of servitude, well not serce service, let's say yeah to Rory.

627
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: I like that subtlety of Rory saying, and you actually

628
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: Paris should be standing over there said, oh, yes, you're right,

629
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: I work for you.

630
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 3: There were parts I found amusing, but I didn't love

631
00:33:58,800 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 3: it as much as you guys did.

632
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: Oh No, I love I loved her her not that

633
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: I agree with her, but I loved her anti capitalists

634
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: screed and her supportive Marxism going to oh you're going

635
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: to eat lunch now in your special room.

636
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 5: It just makes me think like no one could play

637
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 5: that character like the way Eliza did, like only brilliant.

638
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I love this episode. I thought she was hilarious.

639
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: It was, it was. It was a lot of lass.

640
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: It was, it was.

641
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 3: It wasn't my favorite, but I love that you guys

642
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 3: loved it.

643
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: I didn't.

644
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 7: I just was like, that was really enjoyable because she's,

645
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 7: you know, she's she's not being condescending to Rory or

646
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 7: really anybody else.

647
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 1: Now she's she's serving Rory, she's being a great about it.

648
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 1: Yet now she's she's she's railing.

649
00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 3: Capital Oh my god, I know, it's support. I thought

650
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 3: it was a good juxtaposition from the Huntsburgers. So for

651
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 3: me it was like with their affluence and sort of

652
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 3: entitlement and all that. Then we get this other side

653
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 3: with Paris, who for the first time is realizing like

654
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 3: I don't have twenty dollars, Like I have.

655
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: Nothing, right, she automatically has to She's the proletariat. Now.

656
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was more amusing for me because of the

657
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 3: hunts Automatically.

658
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 1: She loses their trust. Well, she didn't never trust one.

659
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: It's four years away. Her parents accounts are frozen by

660
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: the I R S. She's penniless, so now she's proletariat.

661
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, in a in a blink.

662
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's so crazy. It was so funny. It was

663
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 1: such a turn.

664
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 3: But here's my question. I've always thought it was diddally squatted.

665
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 3: She said, doodally squat.

666
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 6: Oh have I been wrong?

667
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 1: One or the other. You can do either.

668
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 5: There's no ruly, Okay, I always say I said the

669
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 5: same as you, Amy.

670
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 3: I've never heard of doodley squat. But I was like,

671
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 3: tomato tomato tomato, right, Toodley diddly Okay. So I think

672
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 3: even though the storyline with Luke and Laura Lai is

673
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 3: sort of dumb or yeah, dumb, I think you're right

674
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 3: Scott when you say whenever those two are together, it's

675
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 3: gonna be okay. And that's how I feel about the

676
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 3: kitchen scene. Like when you're making the pasta sauce and

677
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 3: you guys are arguing about the pasta sauce and the

678
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 3: weird green thing on the it's like kind of nothing,

679
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 3: but I found it super amusing. And I think she

680
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 3: makes sort of a joke about the gym time or

681
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 3: something like, you know, then we see that I actually

682
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 3: was much more excited about the prospect of them going

683
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 3: to the recital together than this whole sideways thing of this, well,

684
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 3: you go do your thing and I'll do my thing.

685
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 3: Like I would have rather had them at the recital together.

686
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 3: That would have been as funny as Suki and Laura Lai.

687
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: Like, I don't know, I think it. I think I

688
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,479
Speaker 1: think at that end of that scene, when the dance,

689
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 1: when it was over, after Kirk did his his birth

690
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 1: through desk h miming his performance art piece, you know,

691
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: when the glitter came with the dancers at the end

692
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: of it and they were very bombarded. I mean, you know,

693
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: Ski had some good lines at that.

694
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 3: And right Luke Luke could have gone with Luke could

695
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 3: have chimed in and been totally a third.

696
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, he could have been.

697
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not like it had to he had to

698
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 5: replace Suki.

699
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 3: They could have all gone to join.

700
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if I mean, if

701
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: you listen McCarthy delivering lines, I think you going.

702
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 3: It takes me back to the graduation and Suki was

703
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 3: there and so was Luke, and they were all kind

704
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 3: of making comments and it was totally amusing.

705
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: Even then, they wouldn't have had this sort of fake

706
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: tension between these two.

707
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 3: I know that, but I'm so does I.

708
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: Wouldn't have been able to win. Loop's character made them

709
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: all laptong.

710
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 3: I would have loved to see you covered in glitter.

711
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 3: That would have real. So we'll get to the recital.

712
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 3: So first we go back, and now we're at dinner

713
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 3: and Rory's on her old timey phone and Emily and

714
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 3: Richard are talking, and this is sort of where Emily realizes,

715
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 3: like Rory's crushing this. They're turning people away. It's sold out,

716
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 3: like right, you know? So that was that was cool.

717
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 5: The theme really got people.

718
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 3: I don't know about the partitions. They weren't needed, and

719
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 3: I think we were talking about it off air, but

720
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 3: I'll just throw it out there now that we do

721
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 3: because we'll get to the party in a minute. We

722
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 3: did not care for the table claus that was there

723
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 3: was a flag with the blue and white checkered table clause.

724
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 3: I just don't want to forget to mention it so

725
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 3: because they don't match the theme. That was like more

726
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 3: of a you know, pick no down, as Suzanne said

727
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 3: off air, and not like a USO. They were a

728
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 3: bit jarring. They seemed too casual for me for the

729
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 3: for the event. Oh also, I have a flag the

730
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 3: cubed cheese with the olive on top. That's not an appetizer.

731
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 3: Did you guys see that? I was like, that's literally

732
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 3: a cheddar cheese cube with an olive on top with

733
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 3: it with.

734
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 4: Well maybe it was in the forties, I don't know.

735
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 3: With a bad toothpick, like an old toothpick with that

736
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 3: colored stuff at the top. I don't think they make

737
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 3: those anymore.

738
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 6: I mean, I'd be so hungry, I need like a

739
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 6: whole play to that.

740
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 3: I literally are a WTF. That appetizer is gross. I

741
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 3: can make that. That's not an appetizer.

742
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 5: No, that's like, that's like the stack you go, oh,

743
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 5: when you open your fridge and you're just trying to

744
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 5: find something to eat.

745
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 1: Accurate for the period?

746
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 3: Was that a usop the forties? What were what time?

747
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: Was?

748
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 3: Were we in the forties?

749
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: That was World War Two? Sure?

750
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was not an appetizer.

751
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: I don't think. Sure it was. It was simple, simple

752
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: cheese and crackers. People didn't start getting but there was

753
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: a cracker was It was just it was a.

754
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 3: Shield of cheddar cheese with a green olive. It was

755
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 3: really not good.

756
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: They didn't have time. They were too busy building weapons.

757
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 4: Probably everything else was being rationed and cheese and all

758
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,439
Speaker 4: of us all they had left exactly.

759
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 3: I did like Rory's speech with the catering team. You

760
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 3: know she was so like, now go do.

761
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 4: You know like she really did you notice the huge

762
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 4: red welt that she had on her shoulder during that

763
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 4: scene that it was weird. Like when they're walking through

764
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 4: the dining room, she was fine, and then when she's

765
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 4: in the kitchen talking to the stuff, she has like

766
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 4: this big, like a giant red mark right on her

767
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 4: color back injury.

768
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 3: What about Logan's finger? Is it healed?

769
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 2: Oh?

770
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 6: I oh that was last episode.

771
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, he had I know, but.

772
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 3: He had that thing for two episodes.

773
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 7: After two and a half years.

774
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 3: He was cheating while you were pregnant.

775
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 5: We're pregnant.

776
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, about thirteen women.

777
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 5: More like if I would have stayed married to Max,

778
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 5: I think he would have achieved forever it was. It

779
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 5: was just toxic relationship.

780
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 3: Michael Coffin returns to wind Down with Janet Kramer.

781
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 6: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and Michael Coffin.

782
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 5: You don't want to miss It's three Hard for you

783
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 5: your d.

784
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 7: On iHeartRadio or wherever you get your podcasts.

785
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 3: Well, okay, before we talk about the party, let's talk

786
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 3: about the sad sack camping that was so dumb, just

787
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 3: Luke out there like fake camping. I don't remember.

788
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 5: Him camping as much as fishing or is that just me?

789
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 5: I think you're right, like he'd go fishing. I don't

790
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 5: remember him like going camping overnight, but I could be himself.

791
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 4: There was one time I'm trying to remember. I think

792
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 4: it was after that after Jess and Rory got in

793
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 4: the car accident and he left for a couple of days.

794
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:24,919
Speaker 3: That's what I was going to say. He only goes

795
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 3: camping when he needs like alone time. Yeah, like when

796
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 3: he's all upset.

797
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't really need it. I mean he stated

798
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: that very clearly, but I think an uncharacteristic.

799
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,280
Speaker 3: Okay, so now let's talk about the party, o epic party.

800
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 3: First of all, mac and cheese.

801
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 5: I mean, Richard was thrilled to not have fancy food totally.

802
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 3: Richard was on fire.

803
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 5: His d dancing was amazing episode for him.

804
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

805
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 3: So then incomes missus Huntsberger and Rory is really kind

806
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 3: of undone by that, and then really undone by Mitcham

807
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 3: being there.

808
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:12,720
Speaker 5: That kind of shocked me. Why because I know she's

809
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 5: afraid of not afraid, that's not the right word. I

810
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 5: know that she's intimidated by what happened and by them

811
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 5: in the whole situation. But like, Rory's not one to

812
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 5: kind of just like fall apart like that in front

813
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 5: of people, and for her to like walk back into

814
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 5: the kitchen and like even Paris is like you look

815
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 5: pale or you know whatever she said and was like

816
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 5: what's wrong. It's like she did not want to do that,

817
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 5: and she by the way she held her own when

818
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 5: she went and took Shira to the table, but when

819
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 5: she saw Mitcham, it was like she was done and

820
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 5: it just kind of don't no.

821
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 3: It's it's just not Rory, Like, it's not Rory Rory

822
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 3: saying I hate her, I hate her, I hate her,

823
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 3: like three times. I just don't think Rory saying that

824
00:43:55,880 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 3: about her boyfriend's mom, like this is still low Hogan's parents,

825
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 3: and like she would just you know, I think she

826
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 3: would have been a little bit more together about it

827
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 3: and kind of like, you know, like even if she

828
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 3: hates her, she's going to be polite to her. That's

829
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 3: Logan's mom.

830
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: So if you forget it, then what what are we

831
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: watching them as an audience?

832
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 3: Well, I see where you're going with that, because.

833
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: Why you described was just very boring.

834
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 3: Boring.

835
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, don't you think she would say it more about

836
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 5: Mitcham than Shira though, or.

837
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 3: I don't mind the meltdown. She could have just been

838
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 3: like freaking out, but just I hate her, I hate her,

839
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 3: I hate her. It's like, I don't know, that's so like.

840
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 5: Childish.

841
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was going to say babyish, yeah, and then

842
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 3: I thought like, well, it's not babyish, but it's just sort.

843
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: Of like I didn't mind it. I thought, uh, you know,

844
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 1: if we if we're they're trying to make a swallow

845
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: that this Mitcham situation crushed her to the point where

846
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: she left Yale and she just doesn't want to be

847
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 1: a journalist anymore, then we have to accept that she's

848
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: going to react or because it's an overreaction. Obviously now

849
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: she's overreacting just seeing him. So if we're buying that,

850
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: then we have to buy this it actually, you know,

851
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: so if you didn't buy into her being crushed by

852
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: the Mitcham thing, that you're obviously not going to be

853
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: buying into this behavior as well. But you know, this

854
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: is a big deal. This is a big moment in life, right,

855
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: So I think I do buy it. I actually do

856
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: buy it because Rory is sensitive. She's not She doesn't

857
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: have the armor that Laurel I grew up with and

858
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 1: had to construct and put on her her soul and

859
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: her psyche to defend herself against her parents. So what

860
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: Rory got was an incredibly strong, but incredibly loving, attentive mother,

861
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:19,720
Speaker 1: And this is something that Laura I never really got.

862
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: So they're completely different personalities. So I kind of do

863
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: buy in that she's this sensitive and and and Alexis

864
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: is the kind of actress that you just sort of

865
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: want to protect. You know. She's got that personality where

866
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 1: she's very sweet, very vulnerable, so and so these people.

867
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: I do buy in that that she can get crushed

868
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: by these people. Yeah, and I think I kind of

869
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: because she's nothing like her mother in that regard. Right,

870
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: she doesn't have I agree with you.

871
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 4: She hasn't built that resilience that Laura I have because

872
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 4: she's never needed to.

873
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: Right, She's never needed to.

874
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 3: But you know who is like lor Lai what who?

875
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 3: Emily and Richard. That's where she gets it, especially Emily,

876
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 3: because we are about to see I mean Richard. Richard

877
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 3: was I guess you could say professional about it, but

878
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 3: he I saw him like with his fist, he wanted

879
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 3: to punch him and he's not. Richard didn't back down

880
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 3: to Mitcham. He really pushed Mitcham verbally without going over

881
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 3: the top, whereas Emily threw down and was smacking her

882
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 3: with her words.

883
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: It was like, I love I love these scenes. It

884
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: just shows that, you know how good at Herman was

885
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: as an actor. It's just the way it escalated the

886
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: choices that he made up the ladder of Anger, you know,

887
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: started out with a mini explosion.

888
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:57,720
Speaker 3: And so what did you say?

889
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: What did right? Right? I mean really, I mean it

890
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: was five degrees. Every room on the ladder was touched

891
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: and it was just great to watch.

892
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 3: Really, I know, I wrote so juicy. The whole thing

893
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 3: was so juicy. And also I think there's something to

894
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 3: how tall Richard slash ed Herman is. He's so tall

895
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 3: that it actually even if Mitcham was quote the more powerful,

896
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 3: I really think Richard was the more powerful in that scene.

897
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 3: Like I thought he kind of schooled Richard a bit.

898
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 3: He was. I think Mitcham was a little scared, even

899
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 3: though he's I don't know Mitchen was so like I think, done.

900
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: This on the phone. Got two powerful guys, right, two

901
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: tough guys, business guys. Who are you know, they're hard asses,

902
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: these two guys. You know they're both super successful, and

903
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: nobody's backing down. I did exactly. And you know, Mitcham

904
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: is not gonna sugar owed anything or he's not gonna

905
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: lie about what he did. He's gonna own it, and

906
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,479
Speaker 1: he owned it. But he did it in a way

907
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: where he thought he could sort of smooth over the

908
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: situation by being you know, like, hey, you know you're

909
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: a business guy. You would have done the same thing.

910
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 3: Come on, right, right, right, right, right right.

911
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 4: Richard was being more emotional about it, whereas Mitcham was

912
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 4: more business like, Yeah, have an emotional attachment to Rory

913
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 4: like Richard does.

914
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 5: I don't think Mitcham is an emotional person at all though,

915
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 5: like even for his own son, that's true, that's yeah,

916
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 5: Like he's not. Like I like how it wasn't even

917
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 5: an example of like, oh if logan it was like

918
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 5: if you had someone working for you know what I mean,

919
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 5: Like he can't even put himself in those shoes.

920
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good point.

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Speaker 8: Hillary Burton Morgan here, and I am excited to share

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Speaker 8: small towns and the crimes that can rip them apart.

926
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Speaker 8: The cases we've covered have confused me and they have

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Speaker 8: made me deeply.

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Speaker 5: Question our judicial system.

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Speaker 8: What got me so excited about doing this podcast is

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Speaker 8: that we have more time to really dig in. So

931
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Speaker 8: you're gonna hear more information on these cases, as well

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933
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934
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935
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936
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938
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 3: Well, and we finally do know that the internship was

939
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 3: given because of the disastrous dinner, he says, after that

940
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,439
Speaker 3: disastrous dinner with Shira and Pop and so you you

941
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 3: We've always known it, but now it's been acknowledged.

942
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 5: I mean, I think everything that we've talked about over

943
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 5: the last couple of weeks, like she stopped on the

944
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 5: Yale because of Mitchell, like it was all answered in

945
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 5: this one scene.

946
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: Yes, so let's discuss how ugly a character and a

947
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: personality that Mitcham is. Do you agree with that statement?

948
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: Do you think an odious character? Who is a guy

949
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: who you know, it's easy to criticize him because he

950
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:43,280
Speaker 1: has this sort of militaristic discipline and this Bravora business acumen.

951
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: He knows how to build companies, and he knows he

952
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: really knows his business, and he doesn't waste time, and

953
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: he doesn't mince words.

954
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 3: And mitcham, he's fine. I don't have a problem with him,

955
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 3: right do you?

956
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, if you're if you've got the daughter of

957
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: a friend that you and your and your intention is

958
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: to make up for this mistreatment my family laid on

959
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: her by giving her a job. I think there's something

960
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: missing in him that can't see her talent. Everybody else

961
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: seems to see it, right, He's the only one that doesn't.

962
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: And even if he believes, then he does, he believes

963
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: that she doesn't have it. Let's get rid of her.

964
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:42,280
Speaker 1: There's another way to do that to preserve So here's

965
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. A guy that has built up that

966
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: many newspapers and is that successful has got to have

967
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: the art of letting people down the right way, so

968
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: he's not creating enemies along the way. And that guy

969
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: created an enemy and a potentially very formidable enemy in

970
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: a future Rory and Rory's progeny, and in Richard and

971
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: in Emily, and that was just not something. It wasn't

972
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: a smart move.

973
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 3: It's not something take it's fair, it's not my take.

974
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: Not really so much Rory's reaction to getting crushed. It's

975
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: really that the crushing happened at all. No, I agree, credulity.

976
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 3: My problem is not with Mitch. Mitcham is a businessman,

977
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 3: he's successful, he has all the right and it is

978
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 3: just my opinion he has all the right in the

979
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 3: world to behave however he wants to behave and run

980
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,919
Speaker 3: his business. However, he wants to run his business, and

981
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 3: he doesn't need to coddle people, even if they're like

982
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 3: family friends.

983
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:47,720
Speaker 1: It's not my modeling. Sorry, let me interrupt. It's not people.

984
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: It's not calling her. It's being mindful that there's a friendship.

985
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: There's a family behind her, they know each other, their

986
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: their kids are dating. There's got to be the dating thing.

987
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: There's got to be a sensitivity there towards that, and

988
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 1: in respect towards that. It's like he could have done

989
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 1: it another way.

990
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 3: Sure, but my beef has always been with Rory. Sure, fair,

991
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 3: that's the dad in you. I appreciate all that. My

992
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 3: thing is.

993
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: More of an emotional intelligence thing. It's like, but he

994
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: didn't right, That's what I'm saying.

995
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 3: He's a little bit of an ass. So he's a

996
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 3: little bit of an ass. He's a little bit too abrupt,

997
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 3: he doesn't have his bedside manners, not great whatever. My

998
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 3: beef has always been with Rory letting it be her undoing.

999
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 3: It's like, dude, this guy does not need to take

1000
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:45,280
Speaker 3: you down because he once said maybe you're not good enough.

1001
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 3: It's just like, okay, come back strong. And he actually

1002
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 3: acknowledged that.

1003
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 5: I was about to say he said that, and it's

1004
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 5: what I say.

1005
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 3: And she should have done She should have come back harder,

1006
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 3: or she should have worked harder, or she can do

1007
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 3: what she wants. It's just my opinion. The person that's

1008
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 3: not nice is missus Huntsburger. She is gross. She's like

1009
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 3: and Emily was gross in this too. They were equally

1010
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 3: just sort of you.

1011
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 1: Why are you accusing Emily being gross?

1012
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 3: Because the things she said she couldn't done.

1013
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: It was one of the great Gilmore speeches of all time.

1014
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: Don't I think she could say in her place?

1015
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 3: Correct? I think she should put her in her place.

1016
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 3: I don't think she needed to do it by calling

1017
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 3: her fat and saying her husband cheats on her. It's

1018
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 3: like that part was gross. It's like Emily's better than that.

1019
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 3: Be more clever, be better, and really do the same thing,

1020
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 3: but be so smart about it that you own you

1021
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 3: crush her without having to tell her her husband cheats

1022
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 3: on her and she's I think the reason goes up.

1023
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 5: And I did like Emily's little speech to her. I

1024
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 5: do think the weight thing was low, but I think

1025
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,399
Speaker 5: she was trying to get as low as sheer it does.

1026
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,720
Speaker 5: And I think she would have like, yeah, I understand

1027
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 5: it's not going.

1028
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: Down to her level, so that Shira understands that she's

1029
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: gotta she's fighting a bad ass to Then I would.

1030
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 3: Have said it, this is what I get it, and

1031
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 3: I love Emily, and I thought it was.

1032
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: That you can understand you know that.

1033
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 3: I think you just do it a little bit more like, look,

1034
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 3: I don't know enough to know how I would do it,

1035
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 3: but I think I would have said, you know more

1036
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 3: of the like, don't you dare mess with me in

1037
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,760
Speaker 3: this way because I know where all the bodies are buried?

1038
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 1: And but what what why not why address it at all?

1039
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 1: If she's so hyphalutin done them, why not just not

1040
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: even address it and then do things behind her back

1041
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:50,760
Speaker 1: to destroy her? And that there.

1042
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 3: I think you go in through well, I don't think

1043
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 3: it's over, but I think you go. I don't think

1044
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,760
Speaker 3: it's Emily is not the type to do it behind

1045
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 3: her back. Emily is going to go to her face,

1046
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:06,720
Speaker 3: and I think Emily had plenty to say to her.

1047
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:11,760
Speaker 3: What It's just my opinion. You know, when two women

1048
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 3: get at it, do it be stay classy, you know

1049
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 3: what I mean, and you're gonna like it's gonna go

1050
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 3: way further. In my opinion, that low blow was beneath

1051
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 3: Emily when Emily's right, being right is the way better,

1052
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 3: better win. Missus Huntsburger is a fool. I don't know.

1053
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 3: I don't know. What do you got? What do the what? U?

1054
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 3: Tar and Suzanne think? Mmm, I mean, I've been to

1055
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 3: this ring of fire.

1056
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 4: It is definitely an iconic pill more moment like this

1057
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 4: is the fans love that that Emily put her in

1058
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 4: her place. I do see the point that maybe, oh yeah,

1059
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 4: the good emails, probably yeah, so hey. I mean, I

1060
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 4: don't know, I think Emily, I Amy. I do agree

1061
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 4: with you that it didn't need to get that personal.

1062
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 4: But at the same time, it was it was fun

1063
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 4: to watch, like it was fun to see somebody take

1064
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 4: Shira down a notch because she is so horrible and

1065
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 4: so elitist and snobby, and so it was.

1066
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 3: Well, that's why I liked the dig. That's why I

1067
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 3: liked the dig better. When she said you were nothing

1068
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 3: until you yea wormed your way into the Mitchen's life,

1069
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 3: that to me was like putting her in her place,

1070
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 3: saying you were less than even us or whatever. Like

1071
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 3: the whole thing is. Look, I have to acknowledge, the

1072
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 3: whole thing is pretty gross, right, Like we have missed

1073
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 3: the same in many you have are many, We've done

1074
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 3: many too in these kids. You can see it's just

1075
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 3: like ugh. If I was like, I don't want to

1076
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 3: be any it's just not me. I don't want to

1077
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 3: be a part of any of that because it's gross.

1078
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 3: Like it's gross.

1079
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 5: I definitely think that like the one I mean, I

1080
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 5: agree the weight thing was, I would have not said that.

1081
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 5: I think the husband cheated on you know. And then

1082
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 5: the line that she said leading into her speech about money,

1083
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 5: I was like, did we really need It's like, I

1084
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 5: just I understand money is so important to them, but

1085
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 5: I'm like, did we need that? It's just I don't know,

1086
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 5: Like I see what you say, Amy.

1087
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 3: Like Olivia Pope would not have said it that way. Yeah,

1088
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 3: that's my point.

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Speaker 6: That's a very good Yeah.

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Speaker 3: That Olivia Pope would have gone up. For those that

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Speaker 3: don't know, this is from scandal, Olivia Pope carry Washington

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Speaker 3: from scandal. Yep, she would have gone up. She still

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Speaker 3: would have gotten her grill and she would have put

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Speaker 3: her in her place, but she would have done it

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Speaker 3: different and it would have been smarter, and it would

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Speaker 3: have been more would have been harsher in a way, like.

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Speaker 1: All right, let me ask you this, knowing now what

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Speaker 1: we know about missus Huntsburger, if Emily is able to

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Speaker 1: get down on her level and talk to her in

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Speaker 1: a way that's going to rip her the most, do

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Speaker 1: you do you think that that proves that that's maybe

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Speaker 1: where Emily came from too.

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Speaker 3: No, because Emily's fancy. I think Emily's pretty fancy.

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Speaker 1: Do we know a lot about Emily's background?

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Speaker 3: We know enough.

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Speaker 5: Well, she went to Yale with with Richard, Like it

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Speaker 5: sounds like Shira didn't go to Yale.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Emily went to Yale.

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Speaker 1: She went.

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Speaker 3: Right nearby.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this this comes up a lot because Yale wasn't

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Speaker 4: co ed at the time. So she went to.

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Speaker 1: Smith. I think she went to Smith, right.

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Speaker 5: Those things that she went to the games with with

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Speaker 5: Richard and stuff, That's why I made me think of that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and had like your all male schools and then

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Speaker 4: they would do things with the all female schools and

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Speaker 4: like games and mixers and things.

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Speaker 5: It sounds like Emily is this is I don't want

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Speaker 5: to come off the wrong way. It sounds like the

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Speaker 5: way she's saying is that Emily is educated and Shira

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Speaker 5: is not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Emily comes from quality stuck as opposed to

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Speaker 3: Shira whom Yeah, she just yeah, Look, I just feel.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 3: I look, I feel like I'm all about the confrontation.

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Speaker 3: I'm into it and putting her in her place. I

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Speaker 3: just thought there was a lot of like low blow jazz,

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Speaker 3: like I think about Emily and Penalin lot like they

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Speaker 3: didn't do that. But you know what I'm saying, Like.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I was very satisfying to hear that speak.

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Speaker 5: Look, I love the I said, I love the I

1133
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 5: think it was satisfying because we've been waiting for this

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Speaker 5: moment for like Richard and Emily to snap out of it.

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Speaker 1: It really was, we just had to go in an

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Speaker 1: empty outer yea reload and empty and again you know

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Speaker 1: Emily couldn't be.

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Speaker 3: A little Caddy. I think I didn't. I don't love

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Speaker 3: I didn't love it when she was very catty about

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Speaker 3: that constant woman either and they were like it was

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Speaker 3: very gossipy and Caddy. It's just not I don't love it.

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Speaker 3: I don't hate it. I just don't love it.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's it's interesting because you know we see Emily

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Speaker 1: not being her best but while she's being her best self.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, you know, I think there's some I think,

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Speaker 3: look and I'm maybe going on a tangent and everybody

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01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 3: can like rip me. In Missus masl you have some

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01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 3: similar there's confrontation. I feel like as a writer, it's

1149
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Speaker 3: almost like the writing has evolved and become better. The

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01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 3: mic drops are sort of I don't know, it's not

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Speaker 3: quite as Caddy. It's a little bit more like I said,

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Speaker 3: Olivia Pope was trying to think of another person like

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Speaker 3: in Mazel. There's definitely confrontations that are written.

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Speaker 1: Better. Sure, I mean, artists continue to learn and grow,

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01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 1: uh per project, so you know, everything that they learned

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01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 1: from Gilmour, they took it too.

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Speaker 5: It was also written by definitely what it was written

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Speaker 5: by d damn.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, really I just have to maybe, Okay, so I'm

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Speaker 3: just gonna throw something crazy out there. Y'all can yell

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Speaker 3: at me, everybody yell at me. The confrontation was written

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Speaker 3: the way a man would do that confrontation, not the

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Speaker 3: way a baller woman, oh would have that conferdation.

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Speaker 5: I can really see that now that I now that

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01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 5: we're digging more into like watching it.

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Speaker 3: Women just don't. I don't. I just don't think they.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't like I think certain women would.

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Speaker 5: I don't think not all.

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Speaker 1: I don't think throwing down would Emily.

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Speaker 3: No, because you know what, menat pauses a bitch and

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01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 3: nobody's gonna throw down. No sixty something year old woman

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01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 3: is throwing down on another woman about weight going up

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01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 3: and down not happening, especially those women. No way that

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Speaker 3: would bond them, just saying they'd be like, oh no, girl,

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Speaker 3: right sucks.

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Speaker 1: I guess Dan was trying to write something where it

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Speaker 1: was going to be easy to understand that, and it

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Speaker 1: had to be clear that Emily was done with this woman,

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Speaker 1: you know, so it had to Yeah, maybe you're right,

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01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 1: Maybe you're right. I don't disagree with that.

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Speaker 3: We'll let everybody weigh in, because now maybe Emily would

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01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 3: have would have squashed her like a bug.

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Speaker 1: Right, it's an interesting point. It's an interesting point. Maybe

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01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 1: a man can't write that monologue. Yeah maybe maybe, Yeah,

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01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 1: interesting point. You're still bombarded, gonna.

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Speaker 3: Get I will get. Yeah, I'm anxious to read because

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01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 3: it's like, it's interesting. It was good, know and look,

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Speaker 3: it might be my twenty twenty three eyes, but like

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Speaker 3: fat is not all right?

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Speaker 1: Okay, rough dude, it's I understand, but it's like I

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Speaker 1: got it.

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Speaker 3: And the cheating one you could have done classier but

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Speaker 3: still done it. I could have I could have been

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Speaker 3: here for that. Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: That one?

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Speaker 3: I would have written it different. Yeah, just saying everybody

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Speaker 3: weigh in. I'm not saying I'm right. I'm just saying

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Speaker 3: that was sort of hang on.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, I just got a text. It's amen, Dan,

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Speaker 1: they want us to rewrite the episode. Congratulations.

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Speaker 6: I thought you actually got a text. I was like,

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Speaker 6: what happened?

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Speaker 3: Okay? We give our ratings and I didn't do favorite lines,

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Speaker 3: although I did have a lot.

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Speaker 1: Oh there's so many going.

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Speaker 3: Through my paper. Was my favorite line.

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Speaker 5: What was great?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, it was so.

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Speaker 5: Read it.

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Speaker 1: No, let's do favorite lines. Taraw, what's your Okay, that's

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Speaker 1: your taraw? What's your favorite line?

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Speaker 5: I honestly like that line too.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, but you're not able to like, you can't do

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Speaker 1: jokes on top of other people's jokes. You can't do

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01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 1: favorite lines on top of Yeah. Yeah, that's a new

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01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 1: rule that was slipped in and during a vacation where

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Speaker 1: nobody attended, got it, just like they do in Washington.

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01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 1: Go ahead, they passed the bill. So now you can't

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Speaker 1: do so you're gonna have to pick another one.

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Speaker 3: We'll come back to that favorite line.

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Speaker 4: So I have to acknowledge it's not my favorite line,

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Speaker 4: but I have to acknowledge when Richard said what she tackles,

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01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 4: she conquers, because that's like a classic borism. But my

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Speaker 4: favorite line was actually Laurel I when she saw Luke

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01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 4: coming back from camping, and she says, why are you

1226
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 4: back so soon? Were the woods closed?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was funny. That actually was funny. It

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Speaker 3: was delivered so.

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Speaker 6: Well, Tara, I don't have one.

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Speaker 5: I'm so sorry on there were a lone. Honestly, anything,

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01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 5: Paris says usually gets a laugh out of me, so right.

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Speaker 1: I think Paris had a lot of great lines. I

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01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 1: really the one I truly remember the best is a

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01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 1: laurelized line at the end. It's like you would have

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01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 1: you would have thought they ran out of glitter.

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01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I got Yeah. That was good.

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01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 1: She was there born. It's like a lot of glitter. Okay,

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01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 1: what are we rating, Tara?

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01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 5: I am going I actually really minus the the Luke

1240
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 5: and Laurel I storyline. I really liked the episode. I

1241
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 5: am going to give it eight point nine mm Suki

1242
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 5: cold sandwiches.

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01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 1: Okay, Suzanne, what are you? What are you rating it?

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01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 4: I'm kind of hot and cold on this episode. I'm

1245
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 4: going to give it seven handfuls of.

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01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 3: Glitter, eight velcrow wallets.

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01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 1: Ah, let me see, I'm going to give it.

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01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 5: Uh.

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01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:55,679
Speaker 1: Well, since Paris provided most of the humor, I'm going

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01:08:55,720 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 1: to give it nine point one Communist manifestos. Sure I

1251
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 1: enjoyed the episode. I have to enjoyed it, all right.

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01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 1: That's gonna wrap it up, ladies and germs. Thank you

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01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 1: to Susanne Amy. Uh, what a guess it's been Thanks

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01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 1: to the best fans on the planet. Thanks for downloading,

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01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 1: keep the keep the cards and letters coming. We have

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01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 1: a feeling you're gonna weigh in on this a little bit,

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01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 1: but just a little bit. Love you yeah, Next episode,

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Speaker 1: Season six episodes sticks, Welcome to the Dollhouse and remember

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Speaker 1: we I I'm all in.

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Speaker 9: Stay safe everyone, Hey, everybody, and don't forget.

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