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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Welcome to our two. On this Thursday, got

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Speaker 1: golf under way at Wingfoot the US Open. He got Bengals,

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Speaker 1: Browns tonight, heat, Celtics Game two, Lakers against the Nuggets

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Speaker 1: coming up tomorrow night. Come on in stay a while.

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Speaker 1: You can watch on Peacock. It's free. Download the app

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Speaker 1: US Open is always hard for golfers, but this week

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Speaker 1: at Wingfoot, it's got the potential to be extra tough.

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Speaker 1: Not only is the course ridiculous, the greens could be

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Speaker 1: extra fast because of the dry weather, and the old

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Speaker 1: debate is almost certain to re emerge, and that is,

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Speaker 1: do you want to see the best golfers in the

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Speaker 1: world look like us? And normally these guys are inhuman

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Speaker 1: but Wingfoot has the potential to be very humbling. Tiger

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Speaker 1: said it was one of the three toughest courses out there,

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Speaker 1: along with Carnousti and Oakmont. I have not played Carnousti,

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Speaker 1: played Wingfoot and Oakmont they were difficult days. Jeff Ogilvie

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Speaker 1: won the US Open at wingfoot. That was back in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and six. He was five over par. That's

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Speaker 1: when Phil Mickelson should have won it and had a

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Speaker 1: disastrous meltdown on eighteen. But hopefully the world's best embrace

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Speaker 1: the challenge to make the Open as unforgettable as difficult.

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Speaker 1: It'll be fun to watch, but I'm expecting overpar to win,

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Speaker 1: and probably more than one or two over par. Pole

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Speaker 1: question mcleven, what do we have from the first down? Well?

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Speaker 1: Our one I put up? Do you mind if the

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Speaker 1: US Open winner finishes over par? And sixty four percent

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Speaker 1: said no, they don't mind, So people are okay. I

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Speaker 1: have a college football poll option. Okay, if you were

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Speaker 1: a great player, like a guarantee first rounder, and say

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Speaker 1: the Big Ten or any conference would you have? Would

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Speaker 1: you play this fall? I know there's this cornerback on

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Speaker 1: Ohio State you mentioned yesterday Sean Wade. Yeah, and there's

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Speaker 1: talk he might be able to come back. Would you

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Speaker 1: would you want to play or would you just go

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Speaker 1: to the NFL? Well, if I'm a at Ohio State

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Speaker 1: and I'm a marquis player at Ohio State, then I

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Speaker 1: want to play. But I don't know about some of

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Speaker 1: these other schools. Penn State lost a linebacker Michael Parsons.

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Speaker 1: You know, Purdue lost a great wide receiver, Rondel Moore.

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Speaker 1: But you know, it's it's really case by case of

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Speaker 1: how comfortable do you feel, how good is your team

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Speaker 1: going to be? And if you're a top fifteen pick,

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Speaker 1: I probably can't help myself, but I might be able

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Speaker 1: to hurt myself, you know, if I'm a second round

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Speaker 1: the first round. So I think it's case by case

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Speaker 1: there with some of these players. But you know, the

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Speaker 1: Big Ten is going to start now, We're gonna see

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Speaker 1: if they're gonna be able to finish. The Pac twelve

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Speaker 1: Pac Twelves on the clock now, and I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: get some information from my college football source. PAC twelve

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Speaker 1: Now I don't know if they vote, but you have

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Speaker 1: the Mountain West is pushing to play in the fall,

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Speaker 1: Big Ten is coming back, The SEC is going to

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Speaker 1: start next week with their games. ACC is already back.

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Speaker 1: You have the Big twelve there, and I just wonder,

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Speaker 1: can the Pac Twelves sit this one out? And we're

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Speaker 1: going to try to see if we could get the Commissioner,

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Speaker 1: Larry Scott on. I know he's got a busy schedule

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Speaker 1: and maybe you can make some time, if not today

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Speaker 1: then tomorrow, just to ask him about this, because it

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Speaker 1: felt like when we had him on, he said, hey,

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Speaker 1: we've come up with this type of testing. And the

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Speaker 1: Big Ten heard the interview and then they said, well,

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Speaker 1: got ahold of this rapid testing. And now the Big

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Speaker 1: Ten had their vote and decided unanimously. I put that

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Speaker 1: in quotations because it wasn't unanimous. You know, they probably

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Speaker 1: just said to some of these schools, you know, Rutgers,

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Speaker 1: if you don't want to play, then just why don't

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Speaker 1: other conference conference USA or wherever? You say that to Maryland,

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Speaker 1: that puts the pressure back on the Commissioner Larry Scott.

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Speaker 1: But if you do have the testing and the testing

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Speaker 1: this in the beginning. If you cancel, then that's it.

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Speaker 1: If you postpone it, then at least you have a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a window of opportunity. Hey, we're going

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Speaker 1: to postpone this right now, giving you an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: buy some time. Because this has changed dramatically in six weeks.

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Speaker 1: I think we can all be honest about that this

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Speaker 1: is changing rapidly, and I think that these commissioners, I

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Speaker 1: think that the president's chancellors, you know, they had to

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Speaker 1: and can you pull this off. We're gonna find out

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Speaker 1: soon and maybe the PAC twelve says no, we're not

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Speaker 1: going to do it. We can't do it, we shouldn't

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Speaker 1: do it. We're gonna wait until the spring. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: be playing football by themselves in the spring, by the way,

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Speaker 1: because there's not gonna be anybody else around. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: in like this desired partnership for spring football. If they're

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Speaker 1: to stand out. I do think like the MAC. A

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Speaker 1: lot of people ask that the MAC Conference would play.

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Speaker 1: I think that the MAC may have a TV deal

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Speaker 1: for this spring that's more advantageous to them than playing Now. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's just like the IVY League. If the Ivy League

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Speaker 1: I understand it. With the Big the IVY League, I

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Speaker 1: don't blame them, but you know, some of these other conferences,

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Speaker 1: but it feels like the Pac twelve. You're on the

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Speaker 1: clock and the clock is ticking. Basketball coming up tonight,

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Speaker 1: Heat Celtics. That's Game two the Bengals and Browns. We

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Speaker 1: there's six point favorites here, but it almost feels like

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Speaker 1: after one game, the Bengals feel far more confident about

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Speaker 1: In case you're wondering, I do have a flannel shirt

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Speaker 1: on these This is the DP Fall collection and if

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Speaker 1: different flannel shirts. Four of the flannel shirts come in

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Speaker 1: You look damned handsome. Thank you, thank you, yes, Paul.

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Speaker 1: And if you notice our collection of flannels, we don't

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Speaker 1: Do you know what Dan? The shirt? The name of

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Speaker 1: the shirt Dan's wearing is, oh, the winter uniform. That's

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Speaker 1: you could wear it four or five days in a

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Speaker 1: I got the winter uniform. Yeah. I didn't know that

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Speaker 1: all right? Uh, you know, here's another story that's emerging.

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Speaker 1: We were surprised because we had never heard Bill Belichick

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Speaker 1: Tom's got to get better. Uh, those in interceptions were

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Speaker 1: So it's just part of the game, all right, Nothing

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Speaker 1: Parcels used to yell at Phil Simms. He'd be critical

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Speaker 1: he says, getting to Bruce arians comments true or not,

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Speaker 1: Farv said Tuesday. Now, maybe they had a mutual truce

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Speaker 1: Good morning, Kyle, what's on your mind? Bete? First of all,

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Speaker 1: the Big Ones. And thanks for the phone call, Kevin.

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Speaker 1: But from what I was told that the Big Ten, well,

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Speaker 1: I should say Ohio State was hoping that they would

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Speaker 1: pass this site test that if they're only going to

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Speaker 1: play eight games nine games and somebody else may be

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Speaker 1: playing more than that, that the committee will look at

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Speaker 1: Ohio State and go They passed the site test as

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Speaker 1: one of the top four teams in the country. As

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Speaker 1: far as the bowl games, I was told by a

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Speaker 1: source a couple of days ago last Friday that there's

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Speaker 1: going to be bowl games this year. I don't know

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Speaker 1: to what extent, but understand the amount of money the

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Speaker 1: Big Ten's coming back, and they can say this is

437
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Speaker 1: all about the kids. This is about seven hundred million

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Speaker 1: dollars in revenue, and I think about fifty five million

439
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Speaker 1: goes to each school in the Big Ten. Just look

440
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Speaker 1: at that. This isn't about Hey, these kids have worked hard,

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Speaker 1: these kids do work hard. We want them to work

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Speaker 1: hard for us, so we can make fifty five million

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Speaker 1: dollars each school. That's what's going on. You may not

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Speaker 1: have a problem with a money grab, but the next

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Speaker 1: time this comes up about the amateur athletics, the amateur

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Speaker 1: athlete think about this because they're not amateurs. These are

447
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Speaker 1: non paid professionals. Yeah, and there's a lot of other

448
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Speaker 1: sports that will be saved in the Big Ten because

449
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Speaker 1: the Big Ten football is playing. If there's Ohio State

450
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Speaker 1: men's swimming doesn't get cut because of this, or the

451
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Speaker 1: volleyball team at a school doesn't get cut because of this.

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Speaker 1: When we see all these cuts that happen in spring

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Speaker 1: and the summer of them been going on, it's because

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Speaker 1: there's no football on the horizon, and they did preventive cuts.

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Speaker 1: And I'm all for trying to save some of these

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Speaker 1: secondary sports, but this is about the big ten knowing

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Speaker 1: how much money is at stake, you know. See, not

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Speaker 1: to like go off on like a side topic here,

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Speaker 1: but why are all of those other sports tied to

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Speaker 1: the like the health or success of another one? Like

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Speaker 1: why does everything else go away if football's not there? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Because of revenue, because like like the men swimming at

463
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Speaker 1: a school is just a money pit. They don't bring

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Speaker 1: in any money, They don't have any endorsements, they don't

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Speaker 1: sell you tickets. But the over the profitability of the

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Speaker 1: athletic department from football gets spread because of Title nine

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Speaker 1: and other rules with other sports. And so you know,

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Speaker 1: if they don't have that football money in, they're not

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Speaker 1: going to cut football, but they'll cut smaller sports. Yeah. See,

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Speaker 1: but that that kind of feels like, um, if you

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Speaker 1: go to a restaurant and like the employees of the

472
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Speaker 1: restaurant are paid next to no money, and then that's

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Speaker 1: why they rely on tips. You know, it's sort of

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Speaker 1: like the owners are passing that on to the customer

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Speaker 1: of like, here, you pay for their salaries. I don't.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of what sports college athletics feels like to me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean I think you really need to

478
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Speaker 1: go risk concussions every week so Pat Fordy's daughter can swim.

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Speaker 1: I don't get it. It's it's a terrible system, like

480
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Speaker 1: this should not be supporting these sports. It's just these

481
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Speaker 1: sports should be the parents should pay for them, like

482
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Speaker 1: squash and stuff like it shouldn't be on the football team.

483
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Speaker 1: That money should go to the players, not the squash team. Well,

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Speaker 1: how things are and how how they should be and

485
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Speaker 1: how they are, I think are two different things. So

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Speaker 1: a lot you look around the country this summer, a

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Speaker 1: lot of sports. I think Stanford, who has more money

488
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Speaker 1: than anybody, just about they cut sports big, you know,

489
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Speaker 1: some side sports this year because they saw what was

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Speaker 1: about to happen with the football team not playing this fall.

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Speaker 1: And unfortunately that's that's how it is that the big

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Speaker 1: money revenue sports save the smaller ones. See that's exactly

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Speaker 1: the problem. Stanford has more money than anyone and they

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Speaker 1: but somehow they can't afford to keep their swimming program

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Speaker 1: because football is going away. Like that's exactly what the

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Speaker 1: problem is. They have more money than anyone, and they

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Speaker 1: still won't do it. But I don't know if if

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Speaker 1: football comes back in the Pac twelve, does swimming and

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Speaker 1: water polo and some of these other sports come back.

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Speaker 1: Does volleyball come back? Because they might not be back

501
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Speaker 1: now because they're looking for these, you know, the protocols

502
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Speaker 1: that they're going to upgrade the safety measures here. So

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Speaker 1: I'm going to say that it's probably this is apples

504
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: and oranges this year because you're not able to come

505
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Speaker 1: back because of the safety issues. Whereas if this is

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Speaker 1: a different year in football can't be played, then why

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Speaker 1: couldn't swimming or volleyball still you know, be able to exist.

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Speaker 1: That's what I would be curious about. But this year

509
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Speaker 1: it's just about how can we have swimmers get together

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Speaker 1: or volleyball players to get together, but we can't have

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Speaker 1: football players to get to get together? Yeah, dude, and

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Speaker 1: I would be curious. I don't have those numbers, but like,

513
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Speaker 1: how much money can the water polo team cost? Any year. Well,

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Speaker 1: you got to pay your coach coaches, is their travel? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know you got these scholarships that you're you're paying

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Speaker 1: for as well. But I don't know what you know,

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Speaker 1: how much money they spend, how much they allocate, But

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Speaker 1: I know they're not bringing in money. Like a baseball

519
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: team is expensive, you're not bringing in any money. Some

520
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Speaker 1: of these basketball teams don't bring in any money. You

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Speaker 1: know how many basketball teams are you making a lot

522
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: of money? Very few? Football, that's where you generate all

523
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Speaker 1: your money to have these other sports there. And we've

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Speaker 1: seen some of these athletic programs where they've basically furloughed

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Speaker 1: some of these coaches here in other sports. All Right,

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Speaker 1: more phone calls come all Ted and Tampa wants to

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Speaker 1: join us here. Good morning, Ted. What's on your mind?

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Speaker 1: Anything good to report from Tampa? It's kind of tough

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Speaker 1: right now. We've got Chris Gibern. Looks like he's going

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Speaker 1: to be out this weekend. He was our number one

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Speaker 1: receiver last week. That hard hit he took in a

532
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,239
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, he's gone into concussion protocol, so he's going

533
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 1: to be out. The worst thing is they're still going

534
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 1: our left tackle. He got blistered in social media by everyone,

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Speaker 1: but our assistant coach came on and said, will he'll

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00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 1: come in and look at some game films, and I

537
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: think he'll agree. He needs to step it up. He's

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00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: been here five years. The last time we played Carolina,

539
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 1: edge rusher hit him in the chest and threw him

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00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: back on his backside, caught in front of him, wrapped

541
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Speaker 1: up Jamis around the arms, took out Jamis for three games.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's what we got to look forward and

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00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 1: hopefully it doesn't happen to a super time. Are you

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00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: okay with Bruce arians and Tom their relationship? Any inside

545
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: info there, Ted? Yeah, Yeah, that's good. Bruce's got you know,

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Speaker 1: he's got to talk to the public and he's got

547
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Speaker 1: to answer it. And the pick six was just a

548
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: poorly phone path. I think, like you were saying, the

549
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: one that Evans cut back on instead of going forward.

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00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: That's going to improve in time when the Evans and

551
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:58,479
Speaker 1: Brady had more communication experience. But Bruce had to say that,

552
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Speaker 1: and I think that keeps him equal with the fans,

553
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: you know, keeps him honest with the fans. All right.

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Speaker 1: That's Ted and Tampa Exclusive Report here for the Dan

555
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: Patrick show. Ted, thank you. We'll talk to you next week.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate your time there. Ted given me and said,

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Speaker 1: Ted's been telling me about the left tackle for quite

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Speaker 1: some time. Here we're all over the left tackle of

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Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I saw where men's and women's

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Speaker 1: basketball college basketball can start. November twenty fifth. Does that

561
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Speaker 1: mean it's going to start? It says it can start.

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Speaker 1: The earliest start date is November twenty fifth. Past couple

563
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Speaker 1: of weeks, discussion centered on waiting until November twenty first

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Speaker 1: through the twenty fifth to begin the season. And now

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Speaker 1: it looks like November twenty fifth is the official date

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Speaker 1: of when you can start. I don't great remember the

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Speaker 1: arbitrary dates that we had all summer long the NBA

568
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Speaker 1: Baseball college football. And I kept saying, these commissioners have

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Speaker 1: got to stop throwing out these dates, because even the

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Speaker 1: commissioner of the NBA, Adam Silver, would be like, on

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Speaker 1: second thought, we're not coming back May eighth. We're looking

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Speaker 1: at May fifteenth. No, how about where we'll let you

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Speaker 1: know when we feel comfortable telling you a date on

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Speaker 1: when we'll be back college basketball. I mean that date

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Speaker 1: means nothing to me. November twenty five, Okay, sure, throw

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Speaker 1: it out. I don't know if that's where they'll land,

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00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: but all right, at least you have a target date.

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Speaker 1: Goes back to what I told you about October tenth

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Speaker 1: for the Big Ten. That was their target date. It

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Speaker 1: didn't happen, and then it was October seventeenth, it didn't happen,

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Speaker 1: And now here we are October twenty third and twenty fourth.

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Speaker 1: Has anybody reported on why we're having a Friday night

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Speaker 1: game or games in the Big Ten? Because is this

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Speaker 1: something they're going to continue to do in the fall

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00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: since the season is going later and then high school

586
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: football they're not going to be competing with. And that

587
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: was always the issue of having football on a Friday night.

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Speaker 1: But I didn't know why is there a big roll

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Speaker 1: out on a Friday night game and that's how the

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00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: Big Ten is going to start? Yeah, Polly. Some of

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00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: the networks have done Friday football later in the season

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Speaker 1: November December, kind of after a high school starts wrapping up.

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Speaker 1: NBCSN has had Friday Night College Football, Foxes head Friday

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Speaker 1: Night College Football. This could be a way for the

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Speaker 1: Big Ten to double dip with primetime games or more

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Speaker 1: nationally televised games. But no one's announced it. But how

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Speaker 1: many games are played on that Friday night? And why

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00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: Friday Night? I haven't heard anything on it. I was

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Speaker 1: just surprised when it was like October twenty three and

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Speaker 1: twenty fourth Ye Club. I'm seeing a quote from Barry

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Speaker 1: Alvarez saying that the networks asked for Friday Night. Okay,

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Speaker 1: including Fox for scheduling flexibility. Everybody looking for some revenue here,

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00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: Everybody looking sorry, but maybe like probably was saying, there's

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Speaker 1: less Friday nay lights football, so you can fill in

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00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: a little bit of a vacuum there. But is somebody

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Speaker 1: going to have the Friday night package here? And is

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Speaker 1: it just that one weekend, the opening weekend where we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have football on Friday nights? Because I'm wondering, is

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00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: this something that you know they're going to have Saturday

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00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: games day and then night. And if you can have

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Speaker 1: a Friday night game as a standalone game, a featured game,

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00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: that seems like be pretty smart programming there for somebody.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we'll take a break. We'll get to more

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Speaker 1: phone calls coming up. We're back after this in The

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Speaker 1: Peacock App. Got some new nominees for the Pro Football

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Interesting potential class first year eligibles. Peyton Manning,

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Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson, Wes Wilker, Jared Allen, Justin Tuck. That's about

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Speaker 1: it of those who could be a Hall of Famers.

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Speaker 1: Peyton's going in. Calvin Johnson breaking news, Peyton Manning going

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Speaker 1: in first ballot. Jared Allen hall of Famer? Does he

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Speaker 1: go in first ballot? Probably not. Calvin Johnson Hall of Famer,

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Speaker 1: first ballot. I don't know. I don't know. I'd have

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Speaker 1: to look at Calvin Johnson's numbers. Jared Allen's got a

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Speaker 1: lot of sacks. Yeah, mclovin, Peena Tillman on there. It's

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Speaker 1: a borderline. Oh no, Charles Woodson, Charles Woodson. Yeah, Charles

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Speaker 1: Woodson's on there. He's a Hall of Famer. But Jared Allen,

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Speaker 1: M Peyton, Calvin Johnson West Welker Not what do you

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Speaker 1: have on Calvin Johnson, Paul not first ballot? Is that

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Speaker 1: you're beheim in person. No offense Calvin, but three All pros.

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Speaker 1: He had a three year run where ninety six catches,

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Speaker 1: one hundred, twenty two catches, eighty four catches. He basically

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Speaker 1: had fifteen hundred yards or plus a year. Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: had a season with nineteen hundred yards. Really good touchdown guy.

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Speaker 1: But then he had a bunch of seasons with sixty

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Speaker 1: seven catches, seventy seven, seventy one. So not a Hall

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Speaker 1: of famer. Charles Woodson will be a Hall of famer.

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Speaker 1: Jared Allen. What kind of sack total does he have?

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Speaker 1: Got over a hundred? All right, I totally just try.

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Speaker 1: I will beat I'll do I'll do a shower of

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Speaker 1: shame that Calvin Johnson's first ballot, first ballot? Does anybody

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Speaker 1: want a piece of Calvin Jonson paulides. I don't want

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Speaker 1: that because I think people assume he's first ballot because

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Speaker 1: he was so good for a period of time. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he probably will go in. I got one hundred thirty

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Speaker 1: six sacks for Jared. Yeah, yeah, he'll be he'll be

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Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer. I'll take you up on the

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Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson, Okay, first ballot. You can't influence the voters,

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Speaker 1: Well I can, no, I know you're friend. Just added

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Speaker 1: I can try. And that's the only reason why I

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Speaker 1: have these shows, so I can influence the Pro Football

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame voters. It sounds like you're saying he'll

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Speaker 1: get in at some point, but not first ballot. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I thought he was. I thought he at times was

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Speaker 1: the best receiver in the game. Right, That's that's the

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Speaker 1: argument for him. That's all you need right at that position.

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Speaker 1: I gotta have some numbers. I gotta have consistency, and

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Speaker 1: I don't have that with Calvin Johnson. I think when

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Speaker 1: he was great, he was as great as anybody who's

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Speaker 1: ever played the position. But he had those were three

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Speaker 1: great years and then he had some good years. Like

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Speaker 1: who are the no brainer receivers ahead of him? Like,

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Speaker 1: I mean there's a Randy Moss and Tarall Owens and

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Speaker 1: those guys. Buddy, Well, you don't have to put in

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver this year, right, I just say in

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Speaker 1: general though, like, yeah, they're huge wide receiver numbers, but

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Speaker 1: that's going to come in like six years when Julio

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Speaker 1: Jones gets there. Yeah, Larry Fitzgerald, he's first ballot obviously. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Is Larry Fitzgerald more of a first ballot than Calvin Johnson?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, but Calvin Johnson had his peak, was

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Speaker 1: as good or better a player? Right? Probably better? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But Larry's weren't the all time first ballot. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's right. Don't you think he's getting first first ballot?

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Speaker 1: For sure? I would think so. I think so, Yeah, Paul,

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Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald has only been All Pro once. He's never

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Speaker 1: had you know, one hundred and thirty catches in a year,

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Speaker 1: but he had a whole bunch of one hundred catch

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Speaker 1: seasons and he had them a decade apart. You're driving

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Speaker 1: me nuts with these catch numbers. They don't they don't

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Speaker 1: even need come into the conversation. Wes Walker is a

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Speaker 1: million catches? Okay, So what matters receiving yards? That's the

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Speaker 1: only stat they That's how they ranked the receivers. What

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Speaker 1: about touch downs? Does that matter? No? Well, what if

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Speaker 1: you have a lot of yards but you don't score

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Speaker 1: the fun of the offense, right, that's what everyone would say, Dad,

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Speaker 1: I mean Calvin I think has a touchdown record, doesn't

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Speaker 1: he oh for a single single season, doesn't Randy Moss?

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Speaker 1: What are those two guys? I think Randy Moss twenty

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Speaker 1: two or twenty three. Fitzgerald averaged twelve and a half

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Speaker 1: yard to catch for his career. I think sixteen for Megatron.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty good. Yeah, that's probably up on the all

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Speaker 1: time list. There I'm gonna get. But what is Calvin

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Speaker 1: Johnson remembered for. He's remembered for bringing about the ground

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Speaker 1: can cause of fumble, you know, the completion completing the

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Speaker 1: act right that happened I think against the Bears in

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Speaker 1: the opening game of the season a few years ago

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Speaker 1: where touchdown went down, you know, just to prop himself

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Speaker 1: up with the football, lost control of football and then

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Speaker 1: that was didn't complete the process. The other part is

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Speaker 1: he ended up having Hey, well, it's still a poor

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Speaker 1: relationship with the Lions that he walked away from the

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Speaker 1: game because he didn't want to play football anymore. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if in some way the referees get that

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Speaker 1: call right and it's rule to catch if he plays

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Speaker 1: longer somehow, I mean, think about what a mental and

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Speaker 1: emotional drain that was. I wonder if somehow he ends

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Speaker 1: up playing longer, if they get that call right, The

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Speaker 1: lions two best players, Barry Sanders and Calvin Johnson, walked

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Speaker 1: away from the Lions in their prime for differing reasons.

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing, but you know, Barry just got tired of

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Speaker 1: losing and he retired at what age thirty? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mix up the records. Calvin Johnson has the best receiving yards,

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Speaker 1: but you're right, Randy Moss with twenty three is the

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Speaker 1: most touchout, most receiving yards in a three season span

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Speaker 1: all time. Calvin Johnson, then Antonio Brown, then Julio Jones,

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Speaker 1: and then Jerry Rice. So I don't know if that

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Speaker 1: matters if they're looking at a three year window. He

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Speaker 1: played in two playoff games, but I don't think he's

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Speaker 1: the first balance. Yes, he that makes him sound a

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Speaker 1: lot more Hall of Fame. He didn't it with the

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Speaker 1: two playoff games, No, they being there. He's at the

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Speaker 1: top of that list with Antonio Brown, Julio Jones and yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it's but it's a three year window at that position.

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Speaker 1: Can three years get you into the Hall of Fame? Yeah, Paul.

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Speaker 1: That harkens back to my Tiki Barber argument where he

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Speaker 1: had a you love you love talking about Tiki Barber.

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Speaker 1: I do people don't like him, but you can't today.

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Speaker 1: Do you see the stat I said around earlier? I know,

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Speaker 1: and I quickly deleted it. Paul, I look, if Tike

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Speaker 1: Barber plays, they want a Super Bowl without him. If

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Speaker 1: he played one more season, if he played on the

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Speaker 1: team that won the Super Bowl, Cheeky Barbers getting in

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Tiki Barber had a five year

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Speaker 1: run where yards from scrimmage. He had ten thousand, two

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Speaker 1: hundred seventy four yards from scrimmage in a five years.

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Speaker 1: That's that's two thousand plus a year. Only better Marshall Falkon,

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Speaker 1: Ladanian Thomason. He beat Barry Sanders, m At Smith, Thurman

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Speaker 1: Thomas four yards from scrimmage in five year Seakey Barber

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Speaker 1: was great. Once he stopped fumbling. He was a spectacular player.

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Speaker 1: He could catch passes, he could run um. I believe

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Speaker 1: he was durable, but he needed that next season. If

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Speaker 1: he played one or two more seasons at a high level,

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Speaker 1: he's a Hall of Famer. I have a ten year

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Speaker 1: bet for you, Tiki Barber will have more fifteen hundred

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Speaker 1: yard rushing seasons than u Sa Kuan Parkley in his career.

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Speaker 1: How many does he have? How many does Tik Tak

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Speaker 1: had three fifteen hundred yard plus rushing seasons and Quan

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Speaker 1: has zero. Okay, he's not getting it this year. Uh right,

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Speaker 1: this town for ten years from now. I'll agree with

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Speaker 1: you on that. I'll agree with that. Yeah, here's here's

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Speaker 1: the number most receiving yards per game all time. Only

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Speaker 1: Julio Jones has more receiving yards per game in the

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Speaker 1: history of the game. Then it's Calvin Johnson, Antonio Brown,

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Speaker 1: AJ Green, DeAndre Hopkins, Tory Holds, Marvin Harris and Jerry Rice,

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Speaker 1: Lance Alworth and Michael Irvin. Thank you, Ethan. Um. You

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Speaker 1: know if the if the Barber brothers had you know,

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Speaker 1: they were triplets, you would be the other Barber brother. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's athletic than my brothers. All right, let'll get to

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Speaker 1: your phone calls. If you have if you collected sports

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Speaker 1: cards or Pokemon cards. I got a guy who's going

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