1 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. 2 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: What is up straight firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight 3 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 2: Fire for Monday, June the third, and I hope everybody 4 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: had as good of a weekend as I did. Oh 5 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: so spectacular. Here's how great you know? The weekend is well. 6 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 2: I watched a couple of movies that I'll touch on first, 7 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 2: but not having NBA playoffs was just incredible. There's no 8 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: need for me to watch NHL. I couldn't tell you 9 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 2: who's in the finals. Rob did mention before we started recording. 10 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: Edmonton's in cool Edmonton Oilers, awesome, congrats Canada. I didn't 11 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 2: watch any baseball over the weekend. I watched a movie 12 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 2: that I had no cuil existed, and then I told 13 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: my brother it's called The Gray Man. I'll talk about 14 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: it in a second awesome movie. I can't believe nobody's 15 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 2: talked about this. And I went to you know, Open 16 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: this morning to record the podcast. I hadn't opened my 17 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: computer all weekend. What a victory, you know, just on 18 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: the phone, played some sports. I had a big men'sley 19 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: game Sunday against this team. I won't bore you with 20 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: the details. We got to win by eight or nine. 21 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: But they were you know, a bunch of young, super 22 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 2: athletic guys who didn't have size, but they try hard. 23 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, off the charts they had like twenty 24 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: offensive rebounds, just out on sheer, hustle and the whole game. 25 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: You know, these guys, they they're they're fans of the 26 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: herd and stuff, and I think some of them listen 27 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: to the podcast and they're, you know, I got j Mack, 28 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: I got you know, they're like calling it out like that, 29 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 2: like I like I matter or something. You're a fun game, 30 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: like kids had sports obviously a little bit, and I 31 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: played a lot. Listen. I'll say this, pickleball, I'm late 32 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: to the party. You guys know this. When anybody goes 33 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: all in on something, I'm out. Like cargo shorts back 34 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: in the day, No thanks, I'm good. I don't eat 35 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: cargo shorts. Then you have kids and you're like, oh 36 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: my gosh, cargo shorts so clutch. But anytime someone goes 37 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 2: all in on something, I'm just I'm kind of out 38 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: and I want to be a follower of the crowd. 39 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: So I haven't played pickleball my life. My son had 40 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: it in Pe. Yes, out here in Los Angeles First 41 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: Middle School pe they rotate like swimming at the local pool, table, tennis, whatever, 42 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: and pickleball was one of them. And he comes home 43 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: raving about it, and so he starts to play, and 44 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, I gotta see what this is 45 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: all about. So I play and it's like, not bad, 46 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: it's kind of fun and exciting, and it's not that 47 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 2: much of a sweat. One on one is a little 48 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 2: bit of a sweat, but it's a lot easier than tennis. 49 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 2: And so me and my son were playing Sunday morning 50 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 2: one on one, you know whatever, and our hours up 51 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 2: on the court and these two old ladies were waiting 52 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 2: for their other players to show up at two v 53 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 2: two and my son goes, d do you guys want 54 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 2: to play us two on two? I'm just telling you 55 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 2: it's two ladies one hundred percent. They were over sixty 56 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: years old, and they both had gray hair. Now they 57 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 2: were in shape, but they were had gray hair. And 58 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, my son, you know, is just like, 59 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 2: let's go. We're gonna smash them. And I see from 60 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: this this woman, by the way, had been there for 61 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 2: like thirty minutes early, stretching and all this stuff, A 62 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 2: feeling like she's real. She starts serving and it's like, 63 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 2: what is this? What is happened? Spin pace everything, and 64 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 2: we're just caught off guard. Like we again, I've played 65 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 2: for like a week and we were athletics. We can 66 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: get stuff, but they know like the rotations, what to 67 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: do with the net. And it was an eye open experience. 68 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 2: And yes, we lost badly to too sixty year old. 69 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: It was humbling at the end. I'm like they were like, 70 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: oh they could tell. We were like shell shocked. And 71 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 2: this woman's like, we've been playing for many years. I 72 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 2: was like, oh, this is my first week, and I 73 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: go do you guys play often? She goes yeah, pretty 74 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: much every day. And I was like, oh, every day 75 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 2: you're playing pickleball, and so they're really listen. So there's 76 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: a fun sport. So now naturally I started to text 77 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: some dads, all right, who's in let's go bonding with 78 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: the kids. But I will quickly rattle off a couple 79 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 2: movies I saw this weekend with my son die Hart, 80 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: not die Hard, die Heart one and two with Kevin 81 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 2: Hart Rob have you even heard of those two? 82 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 3: I have not heard of either of those movies. 83 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: Okay, yes, so they're on Amazon Prime. I've never done 84 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: the let me just go see what's happening on Amazon Prime. 85 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: But we're on there looking for something. I'm like Kevin 86 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 2: Hart die Heart. Oh maybe it's okay, we check it out. 87 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: It's okay, serviceable, quick, ninety minutes and yeah, if you 88 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 2: have ninety minutes to kill, it's fine. It's not earth 89 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 2: shattering and not gonna have to think. And we watched 90 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: this movie called gray Man, who starting Ryan Gosling and again, 91 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 2: never heard of this. Have you heard of it? Rob, 92 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: I have heard of it. 93 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 3: I haven't seen it. 94 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 2: So it's on Netflix. Okay, you gotta watch that this week. 95 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 2: It's really good. So it's essentially Ryan Gosling is like 96 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: kind of a Jason Bourne almost with a couple tweaks 97 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: to the storyline, but like the gist of it. If 98 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: you like Jason Ward, you will absolutely love this. I 99 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: thought it was tremendous. I started to text people like 100 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 2: have you seen this? Nobody's heard of it, and this 101 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 2: is again we're gonna do sports here in a second. 102 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 2: But my big issue with the streaming is like I 103 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 2: didn't know Kevin Hart had these two movies. I didn't 104 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 2: know Ryan Gosling had this movie because they're not like 105 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 2: advertised on billboards or on commercials traditional ways. I don't 106 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: watch ads when I go to YouTube, I just don't 107 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: do that. I don't know where they're advertising these movies. 108 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 2: But I don't go to Netflix and just surf around 109 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 2: for what to watch. So I didn't know these things existed. 110 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 2: And it was like, I would highly recommend. It's got 111 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 2: real people too. It's Gossling, It's got Captain America Anna 112 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: d Rmass, who is you know, extremely I think I 113 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: might have butcher her name, but she's extremely attractive, and 114 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 2: Billy Bob Thornton. It's got like real actors. And I'm like, damn, 115 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 2: maybe I'm missing out on the streaming world. Anyways, there 116 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 2: was one interesting thing to happen in sports this weekend, 117 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: just one, and it involved Kaitlin Clark. And I'm sure 118 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 2: you guys saw this. So Saturday, Indiana Fever versus Chicago 119 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: whatever their name is, and it was billed as Angel 120 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: Rees versus Kaitlin Clark, Part three. I believe they faced 121 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: off twice in college and now they had this matchup 122 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 2: and listen, folks, I'm being honest with you the WNBA stuff. 123 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 2: If Kaitlin Clark's playing, I'm actually like, oh, let me 124 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 2: check out. Let me just check out the game. I 125 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: just want to see what's happening. And all of a sudden, 126 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 2: you know, I played pickleball with my son Saturday morning. 127 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: I played some hoops and I missed the beginning of 128 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: the game, and then I opened my phone. I've got 129 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: all these texts, Oh, this is so dirty, the jealousy 130 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 2: is outrageous, and I had no idea what people were 131 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 2: talking about. So then I see the clip of this. 132 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: I think her name is Chnnity Carter. Essentially, her and 133 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 2: Kitlin Clark got a little dust up and there's like 134 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 2: a Zapruder level breakdown on what happened that led to this, 135 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 2: and this girl Carter hits a basket right, and Indiana 136 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: goes to take the ball out, and as the girl 137 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: steps behind the line to take it out, this girl 138 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 2: Carter says, that's for you, bitch or whatever. She says 139 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 2: something with the B word and then goes over and 140 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 2: body checks Caitlyn Clark to the ground. The ball hasn't 141 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 2: even been inbounded and the referees blew the whistle and I'm like, oh, 142 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 2: that's a what is it? A dead ball foul? So 143 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 2: you get a free throw and then no flagrant nothing. 144 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 2: The ref was right there, didn't like step in to 145 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: break it up or anything. And Kitlin Clark is like, 146 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: what are you doing? You just got body checked. And 147 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: this is where it gets weird. If everybody wants to 148 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 2: break down the angles. There's an angle, a camera angle 149 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 2: that shows the Chicago bench and when this girl decks 150 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: and I listen, I know people didn't like it. When 151 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: I said Jordan Poole got sucker punch by Draymond Green. Folks, 152 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 2: I will go to my diean deathbed. That was a 153 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 2: sucker punch. Draymond Green to Jordan Pool, you are teammates. 154 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 2: Even if your jawjacket in practice and shoving, you don't 155 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,559 Speaker 2: just rear back and cock and bury someone with a punch. 156 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 2: You don't do that. That was a sucker punch. And 157 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: we could disagree, rob might I know other people will 158 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: I thought it was a sucker punch. I thought this 159 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: was a dirty body check by this on Kitlyn Clark. 160 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 2: Yet Angel Reese and another girl on the bench as 161 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: soon as the play happens, just dex Kitlin Cark. These 162 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 2: two girls stand up and are cheering, stand up and cheering, 163 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: and y'all can say all you want, Well, look at 164 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 2: the other end. Caitlin kind of throws an elbow. I 165 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 2: didn't think it was. They were jostling for the ball. 166 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: If you want to call it a foe like a 167 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 2: half an elbow, fine, go ahead, that's fine. Guess what 168 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 2: Angel rees and the bench could not see that. They 169 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 2: didn't know what was happening. Now, on the way back 170 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 2: down the court, Kitler Clark said something to her after 171 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 2: that little jostling moment. Nobody on the Chicago bench could 172 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: have possibly seen that Katelin Clark didn't have the ball. 173 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 2: They were just simply cheering. The fact that someone body 174 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 2: checked Caitlin Clark to the ground, and that, to me 175 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 2: is so fundamentally wrong. You guys know, I play in 176 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 2: men's leagues. In no way, shape or form would I 177 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 2: be happy with on my teammates for body checking somebody 178 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: on a dead ball play at all, Like, what are 179 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 2: you doing? What what? We're playing basketball? Hard fouls? I 180 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 2: get that's a different story, but what are we doing 181 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 2: body checking Kaitlin Crook. So then and this is what 182 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 2: I don't like about the WNBA right now is the 183 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: narrative around it. Rob. It's all, well, this league is 184 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 2: just full of all these people who hate Katelin Clark. 185 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 2: They're so jealous, and it's it's being painted as a 186 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 2: racial thing. And you know where that is that becomes political. 187 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 2: You know, one side doesn't like the w NBA and 188 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 2: they want to say, you know, the usual comments about 189 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 2: the league, and the other side is, well, don't work 190 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: pro Kaitlin Clark, and then it becomes like a political 191 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: race issue, and then the discussion is out one. I 192 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 2: think we can have like an actual discussion about it, Rob, 193 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 2: because from my perspective, I do think there is an 194 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: underlying jealousy of Kaitlin Clark throughout the league. And there's 195 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: a lot of people out there in the WNBA who 196 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: comment on the WNBA who, you know, let's be blunt, 197 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: they think Caitlin Clark is a little overrated. She didn't 198 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 2: win a national championship. She lost to Angel Reese two 199 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: years ago, and she lost to South Carolina last year. 200 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: So she didn't win a championship. Is she that good? 201 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: And then this girl. Carter went online afterward and said, 202 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 2: what's the big deal? All she can do is hit 203 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 2: three pointers? Like that's all she can do. This sounds 204 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 2: not totally similar, but a little bit like the Steph 205 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: Curry narrative when he popped in twenty fifteen. Do you 206 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 2: guys remember the disdain from Berkley and Shack. I wish 207 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 2: somebody would cut up how bad those guys took shots 208 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: at Curry in twenty fifteen and in twenty sixteen, Curry's 209 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: leading the league in scoring, the Warriors are sixty seven wins, 210 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 2: they win the title, and Russell Westbrook, Chris Paul, all 211 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: these guys were pissed that Steph Curry quote unquote cut 212 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 2: the line. He didn't wait his turn. He went from 213 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 2: monta Ellis and forty wins to holy shit, sixty seven 214 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 2: wins in the title and the splash brothers and fans 215 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 2: love them, and the jerseys are selling out. Wait, wait, wait, 216 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 2: we've been here. We've been waiting our turn. You know, 217 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 2: Kobe had his run, oh Lebron, you know, everybody had 218 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 2: their run. It's our turn. Russell Westbrook thought he had next, 219 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 2: Chris Paul thought he had next with Lob city and 220 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 2: Curry just zoomed past him. And there's a lot my guests, 221 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: my guess, there's a lot of women in the WNBA 222 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 2: who feel like, Hey, I've been averaging twenty points a game. 223 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 2: This girl Carter, who I'd never heard of, nobody had 224 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 2: ever heard of. Sorry, I guarantee you zero people who 225 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 2: listen to this podcast, zero people who watched me on 226 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 2: the herd, had ever heard of this girl before. Apparently 227 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 2: Screw scored like twenty points a game in China last year. Okay, 228 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 2: I just feel confident in saying we're not gonna know 229 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 2: who she is a week from now. And she got 230 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: her name in the lights by knocking Caitlin Clark down 231 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: and then making some derogatory comments. You don't need me 232 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 2: to sit here and say, Kaitlin Clark's the reason the 233 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 2: WA and NBA has all this type. Kaitlin Clark is 234 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 2: the reason that you guys are on private jets now 235 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 2: and have you you're no longer on commercial flights flying 236 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 2: spirit Air with the rest of the unwashed masses. Okay, 237 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: you guys don't need to say that. I don't need 238 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 2: to say that and repeat that that's been out there 239 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: for a while the reality, the fact of the matter 240 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 2: is the jealousy for an undersized you know, Kaitlin Clark's 241 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 2: not big. An undersized white girl taking over women's basketball 242 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 2: has people irate. They lost their minds when an undersized, skinny, 243 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 2: little runt Steph Curry took the NBA by store, people 244 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 2: just refuse to believe it. I'm telling you. Even during 245 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 2: that seventy three wins season when they had more wins 246 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 2: than the Chicago Bulls with Jordan, there was still so 247 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 2: many doubters, And of course everybody took glee when they 248 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 2: lost to Lebron and Kyrie, and then they got Kevin 249 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 2: Durant and it was like, oh, well, come on, that's unfair, 250 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: And then everybody's Curry didn't do this. Curry didn't do that. 251 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 2: Curry won in twenty twenty two. I haven't heard a 252 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: damn thing about Curry from the usual suspects since they 253 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 2: won that title. My gut rob is that this kind 254 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 2: of stuff is gonna percolate all season. I think the 255 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 2: WNBA needs to step in sooner than later, because I'm 256 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 2: just telling you, I put this tweet out there when 257 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 2: I saw it, when I saw the video, they better 258 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 2: not let some of these girls who were jealous of 259 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 2: Kate Laclark killed the Golden Goose and really injure her 260 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 2: if she's got to miss a month. I'm sorry. Ain't 261 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 2: nobody talking about the WNBA. I'm sorry. That's just how 262 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 2: it is. You guys can be great at the sport, 263 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 2: Your team can be good. You might score twenty twenty 264 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 2: five a game. I don't care who you are. That's 265 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 2: just how it is right now. You're gonna have to 266 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 2: just deal with it. Play your best and don't take 267 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 2: cheap shots at the most famous player in the WNBA 268 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 2: right now. And I know Kelsey Plumb with Vegas is 269 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 2: super famous, and the girl with Vegas who's won the MVP, 270 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 2: she's awesome, the lefty. It's Kaitlin Clark's league right now, Guys. 271 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: I know that hurts to hear. That's just how it 272 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 2: is now. 273 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: Rob. 274 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: Here's my concern. If the league steps in and says stuff, 275 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: I think you get a lot of upset players pissed 276 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 2: that Caitlin Clark's getting this defense from the league. And 277 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: if they do nothing, I'm worried Clark might get injured. 278 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: The NFL protects its quarterbacks. You can't hit Brady. They 279 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 2: want to protect Mahomes and why because you need those 280 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 2: guys in the postseason. You need them healthy. We're able 281 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 2: to watch Sunday Night football with Zach Wilson against whoever 282 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: the backup is in Kansas City is crap compared to 283 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 2: Mahomes versus Aaron Rodgers. That's the reality. So I think 284 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 2: the league does need to step in. This is a 285 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 2: delicate shoot for them. And I'm sorry guys, some of 286 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: these ladies in the league. They need to clean up 287 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 2: their friggin' act because this is unacceptable. 288 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 3: Could not agree with you more. 289 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 290 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 291 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 292 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: listen live. 293 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 3: And this is what is very frustrating for me, because, 294 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: like you said in the beginning of your rant, there 295 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 3: people are trying to make it a racial thing. And 296 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 3: to some extent, I understand again because she is the 297 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 3: great White Hope right the way she's being marketed, and 298 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 3: I'm sure that that plays us a part of a 299 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 3: role into why she's so popular. Because she shoots the 300 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 3: logo threes. She is a white girl from you know, 301 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 3: the cornfields of Iowa, right, So I'm sure that narrative 302 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 3: plays a role. We've kind of seen this story before, though, 303 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 3: you remember, and I can only say it can I 304 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 3: saw from there for thirty documentary The Fab Five Versus Duke, 305 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 3: And in that documentary they ask all those five guys, 306 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 3: what was your first thought about Christian there, who at 307 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 3: the time was the man. He was the face of 308 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 3: college basketball, he was the best player on the best team, 309 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 3: getting all the magazine cover shoots, all that stuff. They 310 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 3: go down the list, overrated, pretty boy, a bitch like that? 311 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 3: That that's how they felt about it. That was your 312 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 3: friend of the show, Jimmy King. Yeah, think he's been 313 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 3: on the bottom. But and you know what, I have 314 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 3: no problem with that. I have no issue with you 315 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 3: thinking that he's overrated, or in this case, Caitlyn Clark's overrated, 316 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 3: that she's a pretty girl. That I mean, I wouldn't 317 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 3: use the B word to describe another woman, but I 318 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 3: have no issue with you thinking that about her. And 319 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 3: if you really feel that way, then what you do 320 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 3: is you bust her ass on the court, which has 321 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 3: basically been what's happening right the team sucks. Yesterday, she 322 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 3: went one for ten the day after this whole drama happened. 323 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 3: You don't even know about that, because only one was 324 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 3: talking about is the shove of my mind. They don't 325 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 3: even care that they played again on Sunday and they 326 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 3: got tuned up again. And if you really think she's overrated, 327 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 3: and if you really think she's not that good and 328 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 3: that she's being propped up by the media or whatever, 329 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 3: then what you do is you go out there and 330 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 3: you dominate her the way that teams have been dominating her. 331 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 3: And that's fine, that's acceptable, that's part of sports. What 332 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 3: it's not acceptable, and what is so shortsighted and flat 333 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 3: out stupid is going out of your way to rough 334 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 3: her up, to cheap shot her in the back, to 335 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 3: hard foul her across the face, to do all these 336 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 3: little things to kind of send a message. You'd be like, yeah, 337 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 3: you're really not all that. If she is or she isn't, 338 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 3: it's not important right now. What's important is that Caitlin 339 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 3: Clark is single handedly making you money. What kind of 340 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 3: person in their right mind would go out of their 341 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 3: way to sabotage the person or the thing that is 342 00:17:55,840 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 3: making them money. If Jason McIntyre legitimately had an issue 343 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 3: with Colin cowar I'm not saying you do, but if 344 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 3: you did, to go publicly scorch the earth and say 345 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 3: derogatory or inappropriate things about Colin Cowherd, whether they're true 346 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 3: or not, would be a dumb move by you. Because 347 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 3: right now, Colin Cowherd is the tenth poll for FS one. 348 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 3: If he does well, everybody does well. If Kaitlyn Clark again, 349 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 3: if her team's losing, whatever, that didn't seem to matter, 350 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 3: because according to the attendance records, seven of the of 351 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 3: their games have averaged over seventeen thousand attendants in attendance. 352 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 3: That is the most in WMA history. Her debut was 353 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 3: the highest rated debut or the highest rated game in 354 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 3: over twenty years. Her first game on ABC was the 355 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:45,239 Speaker 3: highest rated in their network's history. Everything about her is 356 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 3: bringing positive information and attention to your league, which is 357 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 3: going to lead to It's already got the Charter Jets' 358 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 3: number one and number two. The new CBA is coming 359 00:18:55,960 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 3: up after next season. If Kaitlin Clark what again, whether 360 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 3: her team is good or not, Right now, she alone 361 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 3: is getting people interested in talking about your league. If 362 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 3: all of these cheap shot fouls and this chicken shit 363 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 3: played by a lot of her contemporaries continues, what's to 364 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 3: stop her from saying, you know, I don't need this shit. 365 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go take that five million dollars from ice. 366 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 2: Cube and then what. 367 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 3: Do you want to play in front of four thousand 368 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 3: people again? Do you want to have to go play 369 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 3: in Russia overseas and risk a Britney Grander situation because 370 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 3: you don't make enough money to support yourself on American soil. 371 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 3: I don't get it. It's stupid and these girls should 372 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 3: really be embarrassed at themselves. 373 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's rough. The only argument I saw online 374 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 2: that I thought had credibility rob was where the hell 375 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 2: are kitling Clark's teammates? Like, why aren't they stepping in 376 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 2: when people are decking her? And she's gonna in incidents 377 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 2: all the time because people are coming at her and 378 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 2: they're jostling her, And like, I think, I'm not saying 379 00:19:58,240 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 2: they need to go out and hire like a. 380 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: Does NATed goon. 381 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 2: They don't need a Eudonis Haslam on the roster. They 382 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 2: don't need a Charles Oakley but and again, I don't 383 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 2: know the women's basketball culture in WNBA. Rob, maybe you 384 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: could speak to this. I mean, I can't imagine that 385 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 2: you could, but I'm just putting this out there. In 386 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 2: any sport, football, basketball, baseball, like somebody goes down, you 387 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 2: help them up. Somebody comes after your guy in baseball, 388 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 2: if your guy gets hit by the pitch, they're throwing 389 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 2: at you next time you're up right at the pitcher, 390 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 2: Like there's payback. There's retaliation in the NFL. I don't 391 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 2: know that it's as much retaliation, but it's certain Like listen, man, 392 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 2: if someone comes after your teammate, you're getting in there instantly. 393 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 2: You're like a family. And I don't maybe just in 394 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 2: WNBA there's not But like Kate Laccrocott knocked down and 395 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,959 Speaker 2: like her teammate didn't step in Carter's face, Like, what 396 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 2: the hell are you doing? The girl witnessed it, the 397 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 2: girl inbounding it. I don't know, Rob, did you did 398 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 2: that strike you as a little bit odd? 399 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 3: It did on its face until I thought about her 400 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 3: for a few more minutes, and it's like, I think 401 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 3: her teammates don't like her either. Oh no, really, I 402 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 3: have a feeling, and you can tell early on in 403 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 3: the season. And I, you know, I've watched most of 404 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 3: every game she's played because most of the time it's 405 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 3: on when an out of the studio for the radio show. 406 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 3: So her first game or her first couple of games, 407 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 3: there were times where her teammates were freezing her out. 408 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 3: I don't know if you remember watching that, Like she'd 409 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 3: get the ball, she'd give it up at the top 410 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 3: of the keys, she'd ask for it back, and they 411 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 3: just wouldn't look her way because you know, they got 412 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,479 Speaker 3: to get there, and that's why their team, that's part 413 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 3: of the reason why their team sucks. And then I 414 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 3: think that because she is getting all this attention, because 415 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 3: it quite honestly, members of the media are glossing over 416 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 3: a lot of her shortcomings, even though the rod numbers 417 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 3: look fine. I think she's you know, amongst guards first 418 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,959 Speaker 3: and rebounds first and assists you know second in scoring 419 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 3: and her efficiency is actually like right on par with 420 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 3: other household name guards like Kelsey Plum, Sabrine I and 421 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 3: SQ like they're there. None of them shoot very well. 422 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 3: It's not a guard's league. It's it's a big and 423 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 3: a wing league and a WNBA three, old school NBA 424 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 3: like that. But she also leads to the WNBA and turnovers, 425 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 3: and not a lot of people are talking about that. 426 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 3: And so I think, again, this is just me and 427 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 3: my opinion. I think her teammates see like, well, you know, 428 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 3: she's really not that good. She's just two for ten 429 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 3: from three, and she just jacks up these shots and 430 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah, and people still want to talk 431 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 3: about her. I'm gonna show her that that she's really 432 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 3: not all that. And I can do the same thing 433 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 3: if I get the opportunity. And I have a feeling 434 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 3: that the jealousy and of the resentment runs ramped through 435 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 3: the league, including amongst her own teammates. 436 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 2: Hmmm, that's a Now that's a fire tape. So I 437 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 2: I did check last night and I didn't even know 438 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 2: they played Sunday night. I mean back to back. You know, 439 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 2: the league is screwing Clark and the Fever. Fine, but 440 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 2: they got smoked by the Liberty. You know, they were 441 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 2: down a billion at the end of the first quarter 442 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: game over, Clark held to one bucket a three pointer. 443 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 2: Here's the quote from Sabrina Aynescu, who I know Rob 444 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 2: referenced her earlier and apparently she's like really really good. 445 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 2: I'm sure she's excellent. I would know her if she 446 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 2: delivered a pizza to to my house like later today. 447 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 2: So I just don't know who she is. I know 448 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 2: the name, I've seen it online. I'm sure she's a 449 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 2: phenomenal player. I think collectively as a team, we understand 450 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 2: who kind of the head of the monster is on 451 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 2: that team, and we're just trying to make everything tough 452 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 2: and difficult. So Sabrina Aescu, one of the best players 453 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 2: in the league, is saying that we need to chop 454 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 2: off the head of the monster, and then that team 455 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,719 Speaker 2: is not going to do anything. Meanwhile, you've got this 456 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:39,719 Speaker 2: dope on Chicago, Carter Kennedy, who's saying, well, other than 457 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 2: three pointers, like, what is she? What's She's nothing special? 458 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 2: Yet you have one of the best player in the 459 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 2: league saying the exact opposite. And I don't know, Rob, 460 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 2: I don't I can't think of an experience in sports 461 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 2: as a as a fan where nobody likes the superstar 462 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 2: that is loved by everyone else, Like the Warriors loved 463 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 2: Steph Curry. Superstars in the league didn't like him because 464 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 2: he was bypassing them. But I don't think his own 465 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 2: teammates ever didn't like him. I mean, he's extremely nice guy, 466 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 2: well liked on and off the court. He's he's popular 467 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 2: among players in the league. But I think it was 468 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 2: superstars didn't like him. I have zero context for almost 469 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,479 Speaker 2: the entire league disliking her. Now that's probably a bit 470 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 2: strong because some people are saying stuff, but actions over words, right, 471 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 2: I mean the actions are cheap shots and I don't know, 472 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 2: like not one of hey, let me help you up. 473 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 2: You just got decked by someone on the other team. 474 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 2: So I don't know, Rob, I'm gonna need to search 475 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 2: far and wide to find maybe it's happened in soccer, 476 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 2: like in ted Lasso with Did you watch the show 477 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 2: or No? 478 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 3: I've seen pieces I would never actually watched. 479 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 2: No, No, it's it's great. You gotta watch that. The the 480 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 2: one they're like, they're best player the first season is 481 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 2: a dick and he's super arrogant and you know, talking 482 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 2: trash to his own teammates, get me the ball, blah blah, 483 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 2: not trying, you know, and his team that did not 484 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 2: like him, And that's a fictional character. I don't know, 485 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 2: rub do you have anyone who nobody likes a star 486 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 2: on our team? I can't think of this ever happening. 487 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 3: Now. Again, that's just your allegation that the team does. 488 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 3: Like it's more common in movies for sure. I mean, 489 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 3: I guess if you were so, this might even be 490 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 3: a stretch. You could make the case that Michael Jordan's 491 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 3: teammates did not like him and that kind of played 492 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 3: down there. Wait, which just watching the last dance. If 493 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 3: you watch the Last Dance and if you kind of 494 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 3: know some people who cover the team back then, he 495 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 3: ruled with an iron fist. He was always intense. He 496 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 3: was not a guy to play around with. Oh kind 497 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 3: of Yeah, So it's possible. Again, I don't know, but 498 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 3: it's possible that for the most part his teammates maybe 499 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 3: did or did not like him, but there was all 500 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 3: the respect factor, like, hey, you know what, no matter 501 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 3: what he does or says to me in practice, I 502 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 3: don't I mean, I like it, but the fact is 503 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 3: that he's leading us to wins, and we got to 504 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 3: respect his talent and his ability, and that's going to 505 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 3: go as far as we can take it. Like, not 506 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 3: everybody is meant to be liked, you know what I mean. 507 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 3: And the difference was, at least in this situation, is 508 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 3: as great as Michael Jordan and Kobe and Lebron, and 509 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 3: he brought up Steph Curry. As great as those guys are, 510 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 3: none of them were ever tasked with carrying an entire 511 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 3: league right when by the time Jordan popped magic and 512 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 3: burd had already taken care of that. Now he took 513 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 3: it to the next level. But there was no concern 514 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 3: about the viability of the NBA when Michael Jordan came along. 515 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 3: There was no concern about whether or not the NBA 516 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 3: could operate in the black when Lebron and Kobe came around, right, 517 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 3: and the WNBA is being propped up and held up 518 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 3: by the NBA. They're the one financing everything. The WNBA 519 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 3: is right now is not profitable and all the things 520 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 3: that they've been asking for and clamoring for is finally 521 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 3: like at their doorstep. And it's because of this one player. 522 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 3: It's because of Kaylen Clark. If Kaylyn Clark is as 523 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 3: good as we hope she will be, then this league 524 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 3: could be profitable. They could be getting charter jets, they 525 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 3: could be getting you know, multimillion dollar contracts, so she 526 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 3: has the weight of just not just herself and her 527 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 3: own expectations or expections for her, she has the weight 528 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 3: of the future of the entire league on her. So 529 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 3: I know this is kind of a tangent here, but 530 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 3: it's unlikely. But I don't think it's out of their 531 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 3: own possibility that you know, she's just people are so 532 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 3: jealous of her that they would much rather see her 533 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 3: get exposed than to embrace what she's doing for the league. 534 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 2: I should also add that maybe maybe this was just 535 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 2: a one off, like a dirty shot. Somebody looked up 536 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 2: Carter's background. This woman Chnnity Carter is her name. So 537 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 2: she was a first round pick in twenty twenty. She 538 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 2: was dumped by the team that drafted her in twenty 539 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 2: twenty one after threatening to beat up one of her teammates. 540 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 2: They dumped her and called it conduct detrimental to the team. 541 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 2: She was dumped the fourth overall pick, and a year later, 542 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:20,959 Speaker 2: because she threatened to beat up one of her teammates, 543 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 2: they dumped her. The LA Sparks picked her up and 544 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 2: then waived her for poor conduct. She was basically excommunicated 545 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 2: by the league. This woman and played abroad and now 546 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 2: the sky pick her up and lo and behold she's 547 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 2: playing with Angel Reese and boom she body checks Kitlin Clark. 548 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, folks. I know people don't 549 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 2: want me to drag Angel Reese into this the l 550 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 2: at the former LSU star. I'm sorry, Rob, you watched 551 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 2: a video of her jumping up off the bench cheering 552 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 2: Kitlin Clark getting decked. Earlier she put out like I 553 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 2: think earlier last week she put out a tweet about 554 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 2: Kitlin Clark after they lost a game and then deleted it. 555 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 2: I don't know what is wrong with this girl. She 556 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 2: just has it out for Clark. And I know some 557 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 2: people are gonna be like Jay, Wait, wait wait. You 558 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 2: and Rob loved those nineties NBA rivalries where teams weren't 559 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 2: all friendly and cozy and hanging out in the offseason 560 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 2: like they are now. You guys loved the hatred of 561 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 2: Knicks Bulls. Yeah, sure they did not like each other. 562 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: But is this the same thing Angel Reese like basically 563 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 2: against Caitlin Clark. She's one and two. You know, Catlin 564 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 2: Clark lost to her in the title game, beat her 565 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 2: in the final four the next year and now this one. 566 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: So is this clearly is a rivalry. I think it's 567 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 2: kind of one sided because remember at the draft they 568 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 2: were like hanging out, not just them two, but like 569 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 2: the top, the Brink and Clark, and they were all 570 00:29:54,560 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 2: like hanging out, and it felt like it was just like, Hey, 571 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 2: on the court, I'm a different person, and I've seen 572 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 2: that with guys to some extent, I can be a germ. 573 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 2: I'm on the basketball court, not like this. But I 574 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 2: don't know, Rob, are we missing should we like say, hey, 575 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 2: this is great for the sport. I mean, obviously it's 576 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 2: great for the sport, but I don't like the Detroit 577 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 2: Pistons roughing up Michael Jordan is a terrible analogy because 578 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 2: that was like hard basketball fouls. This is a dead 579 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 2: ball body check. Nobody ever did that to Michael. I've 580 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 2: never seen that done in the NBA. And so I 581 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 2: don't know. This doesn't strike me as rivalry. It's almost 582 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:38,959 Speaker 2: like creepy, jealousy, petty anger. I don't know, Rob, Yeah, no, 583 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 2: we miss you were right there at the end. 584 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 3: It's jealousy, it's anger, it's pettiness, it's all of the above, 585 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 3: and to anyone who's saying that we like nine. I 586 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 3: love nineties NBA. I love too. I love the the 587 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 3: fact that the Lakers and the Kings didn't like each 588 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 3: other them in two thousands, Like I love that kind 589 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 3: of I love the bad blood and you know, the 590 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 3: trash talk and even the hard fouls when it calls 591 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 3: for no problem with that. The issue, again, as you 592 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 3: alluded to, is it's one thing to have a rivalry 593 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 3: and an on court river or even an off court 594 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 3: rivalry where you just don't like someone and you want 595 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 3: to beat them over and over and over. And I 596 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 3: understand that part. What you don't do is shit where 597 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 3: you eat. What you don't do is go out of 598 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 3: your way to injure somebody or try to hurt somebody 599 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,959 Speaker 3: who again it's a broken record. Who is putting money 600 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 3: in your pocket? If Caitlyn Clark is like, I saw 601 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 3: the attendance over the weekend, and it's up across the league, 602 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 3: because again, Kaitlyn Clark by herself is like a one 603 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 3: woman economy, right, Like Indiana Fever have already gotten more 604 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 3: attendance in their first ten games and they had all 605 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 3: last season, right, So excuse me. The first more attendants 606 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 3: in the first five home games versus twenty of last seasons, 607 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 3: So they're gonna bliterate whatever their home record was. Just 608 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 3: based on Caitlyn Clark rough math, she is worth approximate 609 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 3: lee ten thousand more people in attendance on a game 610 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 3: to game basis than everybody else in the league. So 611 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 3: in a game that she plays, if they get twenty 612 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 3: thousand people, in a game that she doesn't play, there 613 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 3: would get ten thousand. That's basically the argument. And even 614 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 3: there's some that are actually losing attendance based on last season, 615 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 3: and that's what their team being. Not even terrible, they're 616 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 3: just okay. So why again would you go out of 617 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 3: your way to hurt this person Again you cannot like her. 618 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 3: You can want to quote unquote expose her, that's fine, 619 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 3: But what they're doing is cutting off their nose to 620 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 3: spite their face. I don't get it. 621 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'll wrap with this rob. The WNBA should 622 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 2: really have a come to Jesus moment here. So this 623 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 2: is a crazy stat I saw on social media. The 624 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 2: Las Vegas Aces, who won the WNBA last year. They've 625 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 2: played six games, okay, the first twenty days of the season, six. 626 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 2: Kaitlin Clark's Fever have played eleven. What what are you doing? 627 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 2: Or do we just want to grunner into the ground 628 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 2: and capitalize on the Kitlin Clark's the Caitlin Clark effect. 629 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 2: Eleven games in twenty days, Lebron would be sitting out 630 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 2: any NBA start. I mean when Ben Yama ain't doing that, 631 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 2: he's load managing from the jump. The Vegas Aces have 632 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 2: played six games in twenty days. Meanwhile, they're just force 633 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 2: feet now. Kaitlin Clark does have like a four or 634 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 2: five day hiatus here. Yes, I checked the schedule, and 635 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 2: then the schedule softens up so they'll get some w's. 636 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 2: But I don't know, man, Maybe the WNBA is doing 637 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 2: it right. But holy hell, this is way more WNBA 638 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 2: than we've ever talked. We just banged out twenty five 639 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 2: minutes on the WNBA on a Monday in June. NBA 640 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 2: finals don't start until Thursday. Obviously we do a lot. 641 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 2: There is a guest we have coming up this week. 642 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 2: I won't spoil it. I think he's been on Yeah, 643 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 2: he's been on the pod once before. But there's a 644 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 2: new TV show about the Clippers that was similar to 645 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 2: the Lakers showtime show on HBO that was awesome, and 646 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 2: we're trying to get a guest who's one of the 647 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 2: stars on that show, so that'll be fun. But I 648 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 2: don't know. NBA Finals coming back, and NFL Camp is 649 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 2: starting to ramp up a little bit. Should be a 650 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,720 Speaker 2: fun week ahead. We'll talk to you tomorrow.