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Speaker 1: Ooh, welcome. In final hour of the Tuesday edition of

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Speaker 1: the program, Buck Sexton Traveling for Thanksgiving going to be

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Speaker 1: out today and tomorrow. I will be with all of you.

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Speaker 1: Encourage you to go subscribe to podcast. Make sure you

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Speaker 1: don't miss a moment. Thanksgiving is Thursday, and then soon

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Speaker 1: after it comes Christmas and New Year's A lot of

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Speaker 1: you will be traveling. Hopefully you'll be in charge of

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Speaker 1: your own airport travel decisions. I this may be the

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Speaker 1: most is this, Ali? Do you think this is the

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Speaker 1: most controversial opinion that has been aired on the show

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Speaker 1: in the three years that Buck and I have been

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Speaker 1: doing this, that both Buck and myself agree that adults

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Speaker 1: should be responsible for their own airport travel. We have

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Speaker 1: got a malstrom of reaction flowing in and I appreciate

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Speaker 1: everybody out there who brings their sleeping bags and brings

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Speaker 1: their own kindling to start fires on the side of

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Speaker 1: the road as you are preparing to go to the airport.

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Speaker 1: I in fact, will be leaving for the airport in

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Speaker 1: fifty minutes. And you know what's going to happen when

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Speaker 1: I arrive at the airport. I'm going to get there

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to get out and I'm going to

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Speaker 1: get my own transportation to where I'm going in Florida.

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Speaker 1: My wife is there. I am traveling with two of

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Speaker 1: our kids. In theory, she could drive and come pick

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Speaker 1: us up, but I will allow her to continue with

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Speaker 1: her day with our younger child, and I will find

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Speaker 1: location in Florida for the holidays. Look, I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: adults should be responsible for adult cost. And if you're saying, well,

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Speaker 1: it's expensive, you're putting the cost onto your friend and

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Speaker 1: family to give of their time, of their gas, of

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Speaker 1: their energy, of their effort, of their mileage. Somebody's paying

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Speaker 1: the cost. This is like there's no free lunch, right.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of you will understand the basic

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Speaker 1: economics of this. Remember when everybody would say, oh, there's

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Speaker 1: no free lunch. Somebody's paying for it. The question is

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Speaker 1: just who bears the cost to me? This is like

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Speaker 1: when they say, oh, Biden's forgiving all the student loans.

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Speaker 1: No no, no, not really, we're just taking on the cost

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Speaker 1: of the student loans. Everything has a cost, and I

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Speaker 1: think maybe I became particularly aware of this, and a

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure any profession in America is more attuned

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Speaker 1: in six minute increments, so you are out there billing

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Speaker 1: profession is. Now everybody has Okay, you have set number

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Speaker 1: Some of us have longer workdays, and you may get

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Speaker 1: So every lawyer out there now, it's like, Okay, if

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Speaker 1: Oh that's sweet. I would actually argue that not requiring

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Speaker 1: Climate change guy. You just get one trip instead of two.

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Speaker 1: I think not requiring people to do things for you

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Speaker 1: She might as well have had a tent. She might

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Speaker 1: Do you know what it cost to buy an outfit

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Speaker 1: Go buy a T shirt. I'm not a great packer.

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Speaker 1: I have shown up at the airport without my license.

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Speaker 1: By the way, in case you wonder what happens when

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Speaker 1: that expensive in America. Travel with less normalize you being

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Speaker 1: if somebody is insisting on picking you up, they don't

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Speaker 1: make it. I'm an adult. I think they'll actually secretly

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Speaker 1: make everybody great turkey stuffing this year, but unfortunately I

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to the airport soon. It's gonna take

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Speaker 1: Some of you out there, you're an up. You're outraged

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Speaker 1: conventional wisdom is. I built OutKick. I had public school

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Speaker 1: I just look at things and say, why am I

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Speaker 1: My five year old it started playing baseball five year baseball,

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Speaker 3: Lady Travis and Buck Sexton on the lines of Truth.

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Speaker 1: Bill Courtney on with us Coach Oscar winning Coach, which

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Speaker 1: is not a combo that is often mixed together. He's

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Speaker 1: got a great show with iHeart. You're an anti Turkey person,

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Speaker 1: Man? That's a great and look that is that's such

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's such fantastic thing. It's also about

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Speaker 4: an accolade and celebrating that that level of service, that

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Speaker 4: level of teamwork. You just don't learn it anywhere else

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Speaker 4: as a young man as well as you do a

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Speaker 4: football field. You don't learn the difference of being hurt

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Speaker 4: and being injured. You don't learn that eleven people in

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Speaker 4: concert can create a beautiful outcome. And although only one

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Speaker 4: person is going to get the credit and the box score.

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Speaker 4: We can all celebrate it together. I just don't think

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Speaker 4: anything teaches a young man the basic fundamentals and values

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Speaker 4: of teamwork and leadership and selflessness that football does and

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Speaker 4: coached properly. You get to win games, but hopefully after

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Speaker 4: the game's over, you get to win it life because

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Speaker 4: you carry those life lessons with you into your family,

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Speaker 4: your relationships, and your business and your community.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's really well said, coach, And we're

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Speaker 1: talking to coach Bill Cortney. You can find his podcast.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be in the Clay and Buck feed

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Speaker 1: this week. And again there is if you're in New

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Speaker 1: York right now, don't be a turkey person. A billboard

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Speaker 1: up in Times Square right now telling this larger story,

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Speaker 1: this metaphor. I see when and I'm curious how you

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Speaker 1: would respond to this when I see football attacked. My

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Speaker 1: seventh grade son played tackle football this year. There were

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Speaker 1: tons of kids on his team with him. It made

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Speaker 1: me like the school that he goes to more now

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Speaker 1: he goes to an all boys school. But I think

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Speaker 1: the lessons that come from sports and football in particular

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Speaker 1: are very important for so many kids. When you see

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Speaker 1: football attacked, do you see it in many ways? And

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Speaker 1: certainly it's happened as a proxy attack upon the idea

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Speaker 1: of masculinity itself, Like am I reading too much into it?

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Speaker 1: Or do you see that as being connected? You know,

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Speaker 1: first of all, I think there is an attack on both.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that they're completely connected. And in all candor,

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Speaker 1: clay football ten years ago did itself a disservice and

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Speaker 1: left itself open to attack because as the science and

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Speaker 1: data were revealing things to us about the game that

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Speaker 1: we needed to coach better and change by in law cards,

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Speaker 1: we ignored it and in doing so we opened up

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Speaker 1: an attack against ourselves. So we were our own worst

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Speaker 1: enemy for a while. But proper techniques, proper coaching, better equipment,

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Speaker 1: and better conversations about the value of football is starting

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Speaker 1: to offset that attack a little bit. I don't really

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Speaker 1: necessarily equate it to attack on masculinity, although I do

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Speaker 1: think there is attack on masculinity. I think football's attack

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Speaker 1: is a different paradigm. Okay, so for people out there

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Speaker 1: who don't want to be Turkey people, Yeah, what would

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Speaker 1: you say? And again, I think that's such a great

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Speaker 1: metaphor as we come up on Thanksgiving, what would you

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Speaker 1: encourage my audience to do to avoid being a turkey.

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Speaker 4: Person when you serve? No listen, it's important that we serve.

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Speaker 4: When you serve, whether it's at the Boys and Girls club,

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Speaker 4: serving turkeys soup kitchens and you tell your friends about

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Speaker 4: it and posted on social right, those taglines that you

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Speaker 4: tell people about should not be about what you have done,

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Speaker 4: but about the need that is being served and the

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Speaker 4: people in that need and what their needs are. It can't,

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Speaker 4: we don't. If you serve and it's about you, the

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Speaker 4: people that are taken from you will say yes sir,

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Speaker 4: no sir, yes, ma'am, no, ma'am, and thank you because

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Speaker 4: they want what you got. But the minute you walk away,

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Speaker 4: they just stare darts through your back because you're a

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Speaker 4: fraud and they know it. And so how do you

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Speaker 4: connect and how do you stay committed and how do

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Speaker 4: you serve properly? Is you give You give all of

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Speaker 4: the narrative about what you're doing to the very people

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Speaker 4: you're trying to serve. The greatest lead, the greatest leads

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Speaker 4: of our time, the greatest measure of the effectiveness of

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Speaker 4: a leader, is the actions of the followers, and the

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Speaker 4: actions and followers are going to be really good if

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Speaker 4: you give credit to the followers when you're interacting.

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Speaker 1: With Bill Courtney does fantastic work. Don't be a turkey.

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Speaker 1: It's in the podcast feed this week. Go sign up

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Speaker 1: for Clay and Buck. You'll find him as well. The

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Speaker 1: movie Undefeated. It's been out, well, how many years has

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Speaker 1: that been now, I don't know, ten something like that.

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Speaker 4: The podcast has been out, the podcast has been out

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Speaker 4: five months, the movie's ten and the book five years,

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Speaker 4: so it's kind of been an every five year thing

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Speaker 4: for me.

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Speaker 1: I guess well, I'm telling you if you haven't seen

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Speaker 1: this movie Amazon Prime and you want to share something

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Speaker 1: with your family during the holiday that everybody's going to

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Speaker 1: feel better about, whether it's Thanksgiving, whether it's Christmas, whether

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Speaker 1: it's New Year's go watch this film, oscar winning documentary.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for all the work you've done and we

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Speaker 1: will talk to you hopefully again soon.

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Speaker 4: Clay, thanks for having me. And if you end up

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Speaker 4: in Memphis and need a ride from the airport, don't

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Speaker 4: have to stakes call.

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Speaker 1: That is perfectly well. I met Bill Courtney. I guarantee

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Speaker 1: you like you don't even know people. You just drive

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Speaker 1: through the airport and just pick him up because you

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Speaker 1: don't want to be a turkey guy.

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Speaker 4: Right, No, that's right, Lisa and I ride through it

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Speaker 4: the doors open, screaming name, I need to ride.

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Speaker 1: Wherever you need to go, Memphis Airport. Bill Courtney's got you.

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Speaker 1: Fantastic stuff is always that billboard is up in Times

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Speaker 1: Square for everybody out there in the New York City area.

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Speaker 1: Keep up the good work by man, Thanks Clay. Look

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Speaker 1: America's colleges and universities today, it was a fantastic exit,

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Speaker 1: by the way by him. America's college and universities today

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Speaker 1: less concerned with critical thinking than within doctor nation. No

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Speaker 1: wonder so many young Americans embrace, cancel culture, deny free

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Speaker 1: speech to conservatives, and in some case even celebrate terrorism.

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Speaker 1: There's one college where kids can debate ideas openly and honestly,

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Speaker 1: where they pursue truth together with their professors, and where

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Speaker 1: America's great heritage of liberty is studied and revered. Gu's

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Speaker 1: where that is Hillsdale College. Nearly two hundred years ago,

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Speaker 1: the founders of Hillsdale College published a document defining themselves

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Speaker 1: in their mission Hillsdale's original mission was to offer the

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Speaker 1: kind of serious liberal arts education needed to preserve the

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Speaker 1: blessings of civil and religious liberty across the land. This

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Speaker 1: mission continues to guide Hillsdale College today. You can learn

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Speaker 1: more at clayanbuckfor Hillsdale dot com. You'll find a short

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Speaker 1: video on that website, just over a minute long, showing

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Speaker 1: how Hillsdale's work not only on its Michigan and Washington,

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Speaker 1: DC campuses, but across the nation is so effective in

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Speaker 1: defending American liberty. Take some time to watch today at

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Speaker 1: Clayanbuck for Hillsdale dot com. That's Clayanbuck for Hillsdale dot com.

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Speaker 3: Have fun with the guys on Sundays the Sunday Hang Podcast.

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Speaker 3: It's silly, it's goofy, it's good times. Fight it in

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Speaker 3: the Clay and Buck podcast feed on the iHeartRadio app

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Speaker 3: or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us. A lot of people

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Speaker 1: with different stories out there that they are reacting to.

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Speaker 1: I'll take a couple of your calls here to close

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Speaker 1: up the show. VIP email from Jeff Dear Clay, I

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Speaker 1: enjoyed your piece on traveling light. I flew Harriers in

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Speaker 1: the nineteen ninety zero luggage space, so we used your idea.

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Speaker 1: We'd land at a base like Key West, head over

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Speaker 1: to the exchange on the base, get a slack and

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Speaker 1: a collar, slacks and collared shirt for twenty bucks, wear

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Speaker 1: them all day in that night. Next day we'd leave

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Speaker 1: the clothes on the bed, fly to the next base.

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Speaker 1: Easier and cheaper than lots of luggage. I think maybe

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Speaker 1: it's because I'm not a fashion guy, and I get

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Speaker 1: a lot of you out there are so committed to

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Speaker 1: your clothes, Like I'll wear a T shirt and shorts

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Speaker 1: from anywhere. Less bags almost always the way to go,

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Speaker 1: calls Christopher Kent, Ohio. What you got for me?

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Speaker 2: Well, a great interview with the coach, But I disagree

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Speaker 2: with your airport Atquette because you have to pick up

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Speaker 2: Uncle Harold.

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Speaker 1: How old is how old is Uncle Harold? How Old's

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Speaker 1: uncle Harold in your hypothesis.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but I understand your point about the endgy, But

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Speaker 2: I like your hat about going to departures that that's

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Speaker 2: that's that's good advice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good advice to go to the departure.

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Speaker 2: And I like the fact that you your theory on

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Speaker 2: length is at the cut of your jib determines your path.

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Speaker 2: But sometimes you've got to fall in line. There are

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Speaker 2: times in length where you can't tell your wife either

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Speaker 2: want to expose you to toxic masculinity. So you shavel

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Speaker 2: the drive. That's not gonna way.

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Speaker 1: That is you for the golf. That's a great I've

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Speaker 1: never met a feminist who insists on taking out the trash.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you're married to one. Maybe you're listening to me

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Speaker 1: right now and you're like, my wife is a super feminist.

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Speaker 1: She insists on taking I've never met a feminist to

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Speaker 1: insist on taking out the trash. Never in my life,

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Speaker 1: every man I know, every married man I know, is

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Speaker 1: responsible for taking out the trash, and I may get

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Speaker 1: help occasionally. It's amazing how quickly my boys also get

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Speaker 1: the trash. I don't know what it is. Women can

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Speaker 1: smell better than men, that's probably a part of it.

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Speaker 1: Never met anybody out there who insisted on this. I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying, there is a cost to pickups, and if

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Speaker 1: you are insisting on being picked up, you are demanding

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Speaker 1: that someone else bear the cost of your travel. Most

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Speaker 1: of the time, I bet you pay for your airplane ticket,

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Speaker 1: right unless you are young or you're traveling somewhere and

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Speaker 1: somebody is significantly wealthier than you. Most of the time

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Speaker 1: you pay for your own airplane ticket. You would never say, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to visit Uncle Joe and so uncle Joe

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Speaker 1: should pay for my airplane travel. Most of the time

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't say that, But yet you feel like Uncle

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Speaker 1: Joe has to pick you up at the airport. Well,

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Speaker 1: why didn't he pay for your airplane ticket too, Because

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Speaker 1: as an adult, you bear the cost of your travel.

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Speaker 1: Asking someone else, or even worse, expecting that they would,

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Speaker 1: is actually inconsiderate. Rachel in California, Rachel, what you got

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Speaker 1: for me?

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Speaker 5: I want to add the conversation that whenever I would

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Speaker 5: go visit family, I would never expect them to pick

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Speaker 5: me up. If they wanted you, that was great, but

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Speaker 5: I would always add into my budget eating a Vestel

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Speaker 5: car the way.

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Speaker 1: I love you, Rachel, I love you, Oh.

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Speaker 5: Distress away from all the family, and then while you're

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Speaker 5: visiting you can go about your business. Also, today, you know,

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Speaker 5: not relying on your family to transfer you here and there,

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Speaker 5: So I just wanted to add that I know is

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Speaker 5: an extra expense that if you budgeted in with your airfare,

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Speaker 5: then it's not.

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Speaker 1: It's how old are you, Rachel? I am fifty fifty,

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Speaker 1: My goodness, thank you for calling. I was gonna guess

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Speaker 1: based on her voice that Rachel was like twenty four.

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Speaker 1: So she has an incredibly young voice, but she has

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Speaker 1: an old soul because she's making the right decision when

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Speaker 1: it comes to travel. I'll be with you guys tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having

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Speaker 3: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of

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Speaker 3: the truth