1 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: Personally fuelsman. 2 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: Now you're in part two of the series that I 3 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 2: never saw coming. It's another sister business. These are women 4 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: I've been working with for several years now. They created 5 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: the company Ring True, and they did it to help 6 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: human trafficking survivors. I love their mission, I love everything 7 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: that they're all about. So it's time for you guys 8 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 2: to finally meet Shannon and Amanda. I'm excited to bring 9 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 2: on two people who I have recently worked with in 10 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 2: the last few years. Their names are Shannon and Amanda, 11 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: and they created the company Ring True, which is incredible 12 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: beyond just the jewelry that they make, which I'm gonna 13 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: let them share that whole story. 14 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: So guys, thanks for coming on. We're excited to be here. 15 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, because we're nerds, we've been like not like we've 16 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 3: been looking forward to this all. 17 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: Day, so sure stop. I'm excited to have you guys 18 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: on and share your whole story. So let's get into 19 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 2: some background first. Why did you guys create Ring True? 20 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: What is the cause and motivation behind it? All of 21 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 2: that good stuff. 22 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 3: So if for people who have never heard of our business, 23 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 3: we work with human trafficking survivors. My sister and I 24 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 3: will go to the Safe Home and will teach survivors 25 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 3: who've recently been rescued out of human trafficking how to 26 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 3: make jewelry and then we're able to offer them a 27 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 3: job through our business. So it's incredible. It's worked that 28 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 3: the ladies can do inside the Safe Home while they're 29 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 3: getting back on their feet. They have a lot of 30 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 3: programming that they go through, like trauma therapy, and they 31 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 3: have a ton of different therapies deekwind therapy where they're 32 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 3: with horses and just like cool stuff that they're taking 33 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 3: back on their feet. But something that we realized was 34 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 3: they'll come to the Safe Home with some of them 35 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 3: nothing but the shirt on their back. And they've been 36 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 3: forced to earn income for other people for so long 37 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 3: that for them to have an opportunity to earn for 38 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 3: themselves is really empowering. That's what we're doing, and who 39 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 3: we are and how we got into that is a 40 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 3: whole different story. So do you want me to yeah, Well, 41 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 3: she's this my sister, she started this business, so she. 42 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: Will tell you that's true. 43 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 3: So I am a woman of faith and so that's 44 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 3: very important to me. So a lot of decisions and 45 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 3: things that I do come out of that perspective. And 46 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 3: when twenty twenty happened, the COVID lockdown, I'm just extremely extroverted. 47 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 3: So the idea of being shut inside my home for 48 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 3: so long without any end in sight, I was like, 49 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm going to do with myself during. 50 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: This time with three small children, ye and my husband, 51 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: whom I love. I love all of them, but I'm. 52 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 3: Like, I'm used to being out and about to be 53 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 3: stuck at home not knowing what's going to happen. It 54 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 3: was just like a really scary time for a lot 55 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 3: of people, myself included. So I was lifting up in 56 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 3: prayer to God like just how I was feeling about 57 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 3: all of that, and like asking for help. 58 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: What the heck am I going to do? 59 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 3: And I had an idea pop into my head to 60 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 3: start a business, and I'm like, this is strange a 61 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 3: jewelry business, which is funny because I'm not like a 62 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 3: crafty person. If you knew me, you would know I 63 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 3: am not Pinterest. My kids' birthday parties are like the 64 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 3: red Solo cuff. 65 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: Like they're not themed. I'm just like not like a 66 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: crafty person. And jewelry. I never really cared about that, 67 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: And you never had a business before. 68 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 3: No, I never had a business before either. So just 69 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 3: this whole idea felt like very outside of myself, which 70 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 3: is why I felt like it was something that and 71 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 3: since it came to me in a time of. 72 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: Prayer, I was just like, Okay, God is trying to. 73 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 3: Tell me something and I had to say yes or no, 74 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 3: kind of crossroads, and I was just like, I think 75 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 3: I'm gonna try. 76 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: It for me. 77 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 3: I never want to give my time and my life 78 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 3: to something that's not going to be meaningful or make 79 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 3: an impact in some way for other people. That's just 80 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: like a personal choice. And if I'm going to give 81 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 3: my time to something, I wanted to make a difference. 82 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 3: So I was giving back into local organizations that were 83 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 3: doing anti human trafficking where because that's something that I'm 84 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 3: very passionate about. And then after a while I brought 85 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 3: my sister into it because the business started growing and 86 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 3: it was too much for me to make the jewelry myself, 87 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 3: and so she did try to train me how to 88 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 3: make the jewelry so I could help her, and that 89 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 3: was a total no go because, like I always say, 90 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 3: I have the hands of Shrek. So I was trying 91 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 3: to do these little beat if you can see these rings, 92 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 3: they're like teeny tiny. 93 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh no, I'll be I'll nerd out and. 94 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 3: Do the spreadsheets and like ship stuff to people. Yeah, 95 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,239 Speaker 3: you know how to make that jewelry yourself? 96 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, God bless her. I don't. I'm not a spreadsheet person. Yeah, 97 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: And I love that. 98 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 2: I love what the business is created out of just 99 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 2: this desire to connect and really have community and help others. 100 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: And I think that's so cool, which is why I 101 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: love working with you guys. And why though, human trafficking survivors, 102 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 2: why was that that attachment with this company. 103 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was coming from working with a nonprofit that 104 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 3: had just interaction with a lot of different groups in 105 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 3: the Metro Detroit area that are doing anti human trafficking work, 106 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 3: and to me, I always looked at those people like, 107 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, you guys are such heroes. There was 108 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 3: groups that I was friends with who were physically rescuing 109 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 3: women who had been trafficked, children who had been trafficked, 110 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 3: and there were groups that were taking them in, like 111 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 3: different groups who were taking them in providing safe housing, 112 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 3: and therapy for them, and I'm just looking at all 113 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 3: these people thinking, oh my gosh, you're the biggest hero 114 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 3: I've ever met in real life. 115 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: Wow. 116 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 3: And so I'm when I started the business, I was 117 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 3: donating a third of everything that came in from it 118 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 3: back into those groups because I know that these people, 119 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 3: I know the work they're doing is legitimate, and I'm like, 120 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 3: if I want to make a difference through what you're doing. 121 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 3: And after a while it was like, I don't know, 122 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 3: a change of perspective of like, how can I make 123 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 3: a difference. What do I have in my hands that 124 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 3: I can actually bring to the table here rather than 125 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 3: just funding, which a lot of groups that is what 126 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 3: is needed. 127 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: But for us, we were. 128 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 3: Able to take it a step further and work side 129 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 3: by side with the survivors, and that was like total 130 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: game changer. It just changes your perspective on everything, Like 131 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 3: it's complete difference looking on the outside saying I want 132 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 3: to help with that thing and then being on the 133 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 3: inside of it being blown away by what it actually is. 134 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,559 Speaker 1: So a lot we needed to hire. 135 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 3: We needed to hire people because we just we couldn't 136 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 3: make all the jewelry ourselves, and so we were trying 137 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 3: to think, who can we be intentional about who is 138 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 3: like in our circle. That would be not just like 139 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 3: outsourcing it to like China or something. And so we 140 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 3: just thought about survivors that are living in a safe house. 141 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 3: They can't really go out and get a job in 142 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 3: the public right now. They're still hiding a lot of them, 143 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 3: their traffickers haven't been arrested yet, so they literally are 144 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 3: not safe to go out. And then also they like 145 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 3: they're not in the mind frame to go work at 146 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 3: like McDonald's or Target right now, like they need to 147 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 3: be in all the therapy, like she was saying. So 148 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 3: it's just like such a win because this is so awesome. 149 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 3: We get to go in where they live, which is 150 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 3: like a safe house, sit with them like in their 151 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 3: own living room or at their own kitchen table, and 152 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 3: show them how to do this, and then they can 153 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 3: keep all the supplies there where they live and then 154 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 3: just do it on their own time and they don't 155 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 3: even have to if they don't, it's just an option 156 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 3: for them. 157 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: We love it. We love them. 158 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: Oh, that was such a good idea, and just it's 159 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 2: cool where your hearts are, where they're coming from to 160 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 2: create such a cool environment too. To be able to 161 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 2: do that and offer that situation for people who have 162 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 2: gone through such a horrible experience and it's such a 163 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 2: widely gosh unfortunately thing that's happening across the entire world, 164 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: and to have one company who's taken a different step 165 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: and said, hey, let's try and help these people on 166 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: that next step further. Because it's one thing to get 167 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 2: out of it and be rescued, but it's an a 168 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 2: completely different situation to become a survivor of that and 169 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: hold yourself in a safe space after all of that 170 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 2: has happened to you. And you guys are creating a 171 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: safe environment for people who really need it. And I 172 00:07:58,720 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: just think that's so awesome. 173 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you so much. You probably can't tell. 174 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe can, But like we laugh all 175 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 3: the time, Like we are not very we're not like 176 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 3: serious people and. 177 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: Like professional, but we try to be professional. 178 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 3: But yeah, we laugh all the time with them, and 179 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 3: a lot of their days are spent like digging into 180 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 3: the difficult things that they've gone through. But we're not 181 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 3: like therapists. We are not trained on how to actually 182 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 3: help them work through that. But the piece that we're 183 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 3: able to bring to the table is just joy and laughter. 184 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 3: Like we sit with them, like they tell us stories 185 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 3: of things outside of the experience that they've gone through 186 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 3: with trafficking, just like childhood stories, funny things that happened 187 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 3: in the house that week. And we're all sitting around 188 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 3: the table, or some of us are sitting around the 189 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 3: tables stringing beads, others of us are watching. 190 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: Some of us are stringing beads. 191 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 3: Anyway, so we're sitting around, we're making jewelry and like 192 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 3: it's story time and we're laughing, and I'll make fun 193 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 3: of her, like just like I just did right now, 194 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 3: where I throw her under the bus because can't. 195 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: Make the jewelry. Yeah, Like the ladies get a kick 196 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: out of it. They do. They love when we roast 197 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: each other and they roast us too. We roast them. Yeah, 198 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: we're roasting them too, Okay, Yeah, but they love it. 199 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, so. 200 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: It's good. 201 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 3: But they tell us that it's one of their favorite 202 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 3: parts of their week, because you know how it is 203 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 3: when you do the hard work to become anybody that's 204 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 3: gone through anything significant or going through any kind of 205 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 3: therapy of any kind, childhood trauma or what when you 206 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 3: really put in the work to like work through those 207 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 3: things and become well on the other side, it takes 208 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 3: a lot emotionally to put yourself out there and really 209 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 3: do the work so for them to have a break 210 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 3: from everybody else in their life. Their whole the whole 211 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,479 Speaker 3: mission is get these ladies to a place of wellness. 212 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 3: And our mission is that too, We just go about 213 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 3: it in a different way. 214 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: Yes, it's us. 215 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an activity and activities bring us together. And 216 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 2: it's funny how that works, and we don't really think 217 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 2: about it in a sense of therapy. It's it's just 218 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 2: like it's taking your mind off of something that has 219 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 2: happened to you and doing it in a way that 220 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 2: you feel comfortable doing. Whether you guys realize it or not, 221 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 2: you have created not just an environment for healing, but 222 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 2: also an environment to be happy again. And getting to 223 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 2: be happy again is super underrated after such a traumatic event, 224 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 2: and it's not something that people prioritize. They're really prioritized 225 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 2: on you getting help and you getting the tools and 226 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: resources you need. They're not really focused on your happiness 227 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: and what that looks like. You guys are providing happiness. 228 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, for better or worse. 229 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 3: Like our family is trashy like working through actual issues 230 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 3: and all we do is laugh. 231 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: So what's a coping mechanism of our family? Coping mechanism 232 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: of choice is let's laugh about it all. 233 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 2: I like that coping strategy, which. 234 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 3: Is this your dog next to you here? Yes, this 235 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 3: is misfredy she joins to just come in. 236 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: She plops down. That's my therapy. Is her just plopping 237 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 2: on me all the time? Doesn't matter what I'm doing? 238 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: Yes? What have some things have you guys learned. 239 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 2: About yourself throughout the process of doing this company, creating 240 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 2: the company, and just creating a new foundation of what 241 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 2: a business can look like. What has been some of 242 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 2: those lessons you guys have learned? 243 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: Oh much? Do you want me to start or you? 244 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 3: Well? The first thing that papped into my mind about 245 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 3: myself is that I don't really enjoy like public speaking, 246 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 3: so like secretly I'm dying right now, like this whole 247 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 3: podcast scenario. But I learned about myself. When I'm passionate 248 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 3: about something and I care about it, I will push 249 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 3: myself to do things that I that are normally like 250 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 3: outside of my comfort zone, like how many stages have 251 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 3: we been on where we had to like talk and 252 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 3: just it's overwhelming. But I will do it because I 253 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 3: love these ladies like we are there like advocates out there, 254 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 3: so they have to stay hidden right now from the world. 255 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 3: So it's on us to spread the word. Get do 256 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 3: Like how I terrorized. 257 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: You and told you about our business. They got for 258 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 1: you our branding job. Yeah, so like I will do it. 259 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: I will. So that's what I learned about myself. One 260 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: of the things I think, Okay, I love that, m h. 261 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: I love that too, And I'm being proud of you. 262 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: I think I feel like you shared. 263 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 3: One time on like a news interview that we did 264 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 3: and we both started crying, which you know is not 265 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 3: our best look. 266 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: But is anybody a pretty crier? 267 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 3: Because I don't think so those people are rude though 268 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 3: whoever they are, they're rude. So Shannon is a widow 269 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 3: and she had gone through something that is really hard 270 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 3: to experience in your life, and there was like a 271 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 3: good long time where you were just working through all 272 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 3: of that and you weren't quite in a good place 273 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 3: like when I started this business, you were in a 274 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 3: different place than you are now. 275 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if you want to share it. 276 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 3: I like I didn't f I had a purpose, Like 277 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 3: I was just existing and so it was like it 278 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 3: was amazing all around how God worked this out because 279 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 3: he knew that he wanted us to connect with the 280 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 3: survivor and he also knew that it would affect our 281 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 3: lives as well. 282 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: So it completely changed my life. 283 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 3: Like it started off as this business that she started 284 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 3: cut to now it's like my full time job, like 285 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 3: mind blowing, and it's so passionate about it. It's like 286 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 3: what gets me up every single day and I'm just 287 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 3: love it. So yeah, there's something different about living outside 288 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 3: of yourself, Like when you're looking at and only focused 289 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,719 Speaker 3: on the things that have happened to you and your 290 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 3: own world, and then you something shifts and it's we 291 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 3: have this mission together. 292 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: That was life change for me. 293 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 3: I'm looking at my sister, whom I desperately love, and 294 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 3: I'm like seeing the light come back, and I'm like, 295 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 3: I love the ladies that we work with, but my God, 296 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 3: like I would take a bullet for this woman. 297 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 1: I don't know, just like watching. 298 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 3: What the work that we're able to do with them 299 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 3: is life changing in that way. 300 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: I think too. Yeah, it's a. 301 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: Special kind of thing when you're doing something that also 302 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 2: heals you. You don't realize it in the moment, and 303 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 2: you don't realize it as it's happening until you're in 304 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 2: the thick of it and you look at your life 305 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: you're like, Okay, I didn't anticipate this to help me in. 306 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: The ways that it was. 307 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: And I love that this could be that for you, 308 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 2: because going through that I couldn't ever possibly imagine. And 309 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 2: I'm sure today it's still not easy. It's still not 310 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 2: something that ever will be easy, but you've found a 311 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 2: way through it, and that's super admirable. 312 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: Thanks it is. 313 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 3: Yet I think for me there was like a really 314 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 3: like a turning point where it was the difference between 315 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 3: looking at all of these other people's being like, Wow, 316 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 3: you're my hero for this thing that you're doing, and 317 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 3: almost feeling insignificant in the face of this major world issue, 318 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 3: like this worldwide issue of human trafficking. It feels so overwhelming, 319 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 3: like how can I possibly make a difference? 320 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: And I'm so. 321 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 3: Thankful of you, amazing people are doing that, and to 322 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 3: be able to take something that I felt like God 323 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 3: had given to me saying like this, gentle, you can 324 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 3: do it, and it was that was life changing for me, 325 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 3: where it went from I'm going to just donate to 326 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 3: this thing to I'm going to put myself in there. 327 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: I'm in the game. I am not a spectator anymore. 328 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: I am in the game. 329 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 3: And it surprises me all the time because I don't 330 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 3: ever feel equipped and I don't know like I don't know. 331 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: So I guess my encouragement. 332 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 3: Is for people who want to make a difference, because 333 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 3: not everybody's passionate about the same social issues. There's so 334 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 3: many things to be passionate about, like children who don't 335 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 3: have food, like families who are experiencing homelessness. There's so 336 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 3: many different like things that we as humans like it 337 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 3: breaks our heart when we see them happening. And I 338 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 3: just I feel like people, even if they feel insignificant 339 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 3: or aren't sure how they can make a difference, even 340 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 3: taking one step toward doing that will change your life. 341 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 3: Just try it, because anything that you do, whoever's on 342 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 3: the other end of that, it's they're gonna look at 343 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 3: you and say thank you. Just one step toward doing it. 344 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't have to have it all figured out. 345 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 3: Like it doesn't have to be this perfect plan before 346 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 3: Lord knows, we still don't have a perfect plan. 347 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: We're just doing happening. We're just laughing our way through it. 348 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys had an idea, You created something, and 349 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 2: now you're making a significant change. And that was something 350 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 2: I was going to ask you about because I know 351 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: often that I will feel when I look at the 352 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: world and I see a lot of things happening and 353 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 2: the injustices and just the pain that exists, and. 354 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: I know how small I am. 355 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 2: I know how much of a difference I could make 356 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 2: or things that I could do differently to help. And 357 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 2: there's been moments of my life where it's very much this, Okay, 358 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 2: I just have to change it for one person and 359 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 2: start there and you work up. But you guys being 360 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 2: in the middle of something that's so huge, and a 361 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: lot of people look at it and say I can't 362 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 2: do anything, there's nothing I can do to help that. 363 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 2: But you guys took it and said, Okay, there's maybe 364 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:22,719 Speaker 2: something we can do. 365 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: So what made you. 366 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 2: Guys have that just inside of you and maybe it 367 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 2: can inspire somebody else to be like, you know what, 368 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 2: I can do that Also because you're doing something I 369 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 2: think a lot of people would love to do. They 370 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 2: just don't quite know how to take that first step 371 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 2: that says I can help one person. 372 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 3: I love what you said about, like just the one 373 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 3: person keeping your eyes open for like, how can I 374 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 3: make a difference in my everyday life? 375 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: Who are you rubbing shoulders with? Who are you seeing? 376 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 3: I already knew the people that were at the safe house, 377 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 3: and I was donating money because I started making all 378 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 3: the jewelry by myself. Like I didn't originally think I'm 379 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 3: gonna work hands on with survivors and teach them to 380 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 3: make jewelry. It was like, I'm going to make it 381 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 3: all myself and then I'm just going to donate. I'll 382 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 3: donate money that I make back into this thing. So 383 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 3: it was, but it was like through the relationships that 384 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 3: I had and like the people around me, that I 385 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 3: just started getting a little closer and a little closer, 386 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 3: asking questions, learning about things, not immediately assuming that I 387 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 3: knew everything, because I'm the type of person who I'm 388 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 3: like I'll throw myself under the bus right away and 389 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 3: be like I don't know anything, Teach me what you know. 390 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 3: So if you're willing to just ask questions, you'll start 391 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 3: to learn what are the needs that are around me. 392 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 1: And then as far as. 393 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 3: Human trafficking goes, like we do have people ask us 394 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 3: all the time like how can we get involved with 395 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 3: what are doing and how can we help? And so 396 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 3: we actually started a program called the Survivor Support Club, 397 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 3: which is every month. The ladies are making jewelry all 398 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 3: the time, and like we have events that we do 399 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 3: or around Christmas time will sell a lot, and we 400 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 3: have a lot of boutiques across the United States that 401 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 3: carry our jewelry, but those orders come in sporadically, like 402 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 3: we never know when a boutique is going to run 403 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 3: out of bracelets and need more. So in order to 404 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 3: keep the ladies we're working with consistently working, we have 405 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 3: the Survivors Support Club for people who are like I 406 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 3: want to help these ladies and I want to help 407 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 3: them all the time. So you get a brand new 408 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 3: piece of jewelry every month. 409 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: So we make these rings. These are like little fidget here. 410 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 3: I'll bring them up here. They're like fidget style rings. 411 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 3: So I've got one on my thumb and you just 412 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 3: roll them around. They're like an anxiety relief. 413 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: Kind of thing. So sometimes we'll send out those and 414 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 1: then other times. 415 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 3: We'll send out bracelets, so they'll come on these little 416 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 3: cards that are attached and then it says this is Yeesmans, 417 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 3: so it'll have the name of the survivor that made it. 418 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 3: But we'll send out like a new one of those 419 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,959 Speaker 3: every single month to the people in the club and 420 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 3: either they keep the ones they like or save them 421 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 3: up to give them away as gifts for birthdays or 422 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 3: at Christmas time or whatever. But it's a way that 423 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 3: people can support survivors every month and it's twenty five 424 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 3: dollars and instead of just giving into a charity like 425 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 3: how I was doing when I first started the business, 426 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 3: what this does is it actually provides a job and 427 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 3: it helps the survivors feel empowered. They don't feel like 428 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 3: people feel bad for them. They feel like people are 429 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 3: appreciating the work that they're doing and they want what 430 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 3: ladies are making and that is I think the life 431 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 3: changing piece for them. 432 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 433 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 2: Oh, and that's such a key to all of this 434 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 2: is that they don't feel like it's this helping hand 435 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 2: and they feel about themselves a certain way. You guys 436 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 2: are lifting them up by giving them an opportunity to 437 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 2: do what they probably want to do, which is work 438 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 2: and take care of themselves, and they just don't have 439 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 2: that access yet. 440 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just cool to see how So it's specifically 441 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 3: the ladies we work with. They live in it's a 442 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 3: program called Hope Against Trafficking, and so they it's like 443 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 3: a group. They all get their own little apartment, but 444 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 3: they can come together as well. So it's funny because 445 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 3: we'll come back and they'll like deem each other. 446 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: We decided Jill's the manager. 447 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 3: Like, so Jill is in their eyes, the most responsible 448 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 3: one that like keeps the other ladies on track, Like 449 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 3: we never gave them these job titles. Like they like 450 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 3: make this up amongst themselves and it's just so funny. 451 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 3: And we teach them how to fill out like time sheets, 452 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 3: and then the house helps them get bank accounts and 453 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 3: start saving. So it's like a whole like it's not 454 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 3: just making jewelry. They're like learning responsibility. They're learning like 455 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 3: time management. We actually this year had them start interning 456 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 3: with us, so we have two interns, so survivors run 457 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,479 Speaker 3: the business. Yeah, they get dropped off here at our 458 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 3: office and they sit with us, so we go to 459 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 3: the safe house. But now we have survivors that come 460 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 3: here to our office and they learn like inventory and 461 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 3: like all the things that we do for our business. 462 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: So that's awesome too. 463 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 3: Because where I get my beads, right, this is how 464 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 3: I pick them out. This is what a great stone 465 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 3: looks like. Yeah, all of the other things that it 466 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 3: takes to run a business. So that they're like learning 467 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 3: these skills. They can use us on a resume in 468 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 3: the future. But it just our relationship is stronger with them. 469 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 3: It's just amazing. 470 00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: We love it. 471 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, Wow, that's that's incredible because you guys aren't just 472 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 2: help not only now are you guys just helping them 473 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 2: to have a step up. You're now like, let me 474 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 2: make sure that when you leave here, you're going to 475 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 2: be prepared for whatever comes next. And that's so rare 476 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 2: that exists. You guys have that compassion and then that 477 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 2: setup in your business to do something that is truly 478 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 2: making the world better. And that's what's so cool, And 479 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 2: that's why I love working with you guys, because there's 480 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 2: so many people in the world who are always like, 481 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 2: I have a business, but I can't do that or 482 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 2: I can't do this. You guys literally took a business 483 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 2: and said watch us, and we're going to change the 484 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: world for these people. And I think that's more powerful 485 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 2: than anything you guys. 486 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: Could probably ever do with the jewelry itself. 487 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 2: But just the momentum you're creating in a you're really 488 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 2: paving a path for what nonprofit work can look like. 489 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Yeah, you're trying trying. 490 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 3: I'll be honest with you, it does take more energy, effort, 491 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 3: and patience to work with people who have been deeply traumatized. 492 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: And I think that I don't know that. I don't 493 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: know if it does. 494 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 3: It's more of a mindset of this is for them, 495 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 3: less about the profit, more about the person. We both 496 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 3: we always say if it wasn't for them, we would 497 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 3: throw this business in. 498 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: The trick you, I don't even care about jewelry. I'm like, 499 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: I like, learn how to do all this. God was 500 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: like you should do this, and I'm like okay, Like 501 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: I was not excited. No, I don't even like making No. 502 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 3: It is a pure love for them that keeps us 503 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 3: slowly because, like she said, it is very tough. There's 504 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 3: lots of times we have to have them redo stuff 505 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 3: or like we have just. 506 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: I don't go into it. 507 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 3: I have a hard time remembering some of the things 508 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 3: where it's like these details were this color bead goes 509 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 3: with this color packaging, and we're like, okay, let's sit down, 510 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 3: we'll show you again. 511 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: This one goes here. 512 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, but we understand and we care about what they 513 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 3: have gone through and we will make time for that. 514 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 3: And what I have found to be very interesting in 515 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 3: my own life now after working with survivors for so 516 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 3: long and like understanding there the. 517 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 1: Trauma brain that they have. 518 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 3: I have met other people in different like avenues of 519 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 3: my life who I will experience some similar interactions with them, 520 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 3: and I'm like, you have trauma brain. 521 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: Like I'm not gonna say that to them, but I will. 522 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 3: I have like way more compassion and understanding for people 523 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 3: where I'm just like I can take more time with 524 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 3: them and give them more space to be who they 525 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 3: need to be for a minute without being frustrated or 526 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 3: like I'm the gone like I'm a woman about town. 527 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: Now, like people people matter. So yeah, I don't know, 528 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. 529 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 3: If you've bet We've never really talked about that, but 530 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 3: have you had like more compassion for people in your 531 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 3: life now that we've been working with these ladies. Yeah, 532 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 3: I feel like it just opened their eyes to like 533 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 3: just be looking and careful with people and not so 534 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 3: irrit like irritated. 535 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, or like patience comes to mine. It sounds like 536 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 2: you're it's really learned a lot of patience. 537 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 538 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 3: Sure. 539 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 540 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 2: You mentioned that you guys don't like making jewelry, and 541 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 2: it's really funny because up until you guys, I really 542 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 2: didn't wear a lot of jewelry. 543 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: I was not a big jewelry were I didn't it 544 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: by jewelry. 545 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 2: It's just I'm always so uncomfy wearing a lot of stuff. 546 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 2: And you guys had sent me the first package so 547 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 2: many years ago. Now and your guys, this is really 548 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 2: solely the whole reason why. 549 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: I started to wear jewelry again. 550 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 2: And I'm not wearing any now because I'm very loud 551 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 2: when I wear jewelry. 552 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 1: I'm not very graceful. It's very you. 553 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 2: Always hear me coming. But I wear mine all the time, 554 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 2: like my bracelets. 555 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 3: She sent me screenshots I spotted Morgan in Florida with 556 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 3: her Bi. 557 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 2: Brad XXL gossip girl. 558 00:25:55,560 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: Yes, I love you. I love you. It's true. I 559 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: really sent her that spot spot I do it all 560 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: the time. I am honored. 561 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 2: No, you're not psychotic. 562 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: I'm honored. 563 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 2: I and I really enjoy wearing them and I've gifted 564 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 2: them to a whole lot of people who now also 565 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 2: wear them. You guys are one of my just favorite 566 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 2: products in general, and full disclosure, I am one of 567 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 2: their brand angels, but it's never been anything I've made 568 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 2: money from. That was something that wasn't important to me 569 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 2: when you guys said that was. I just wanted to 570 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 2: be part of what you guys were doing. 571 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: And the way that. 572 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 2: I can help is share my platform and have Hopefully 573 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 2: people also care about things that I care about, and 574 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 2: that's just one of them. Give Back gifts are like 575 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 2: my favorite thing in the world, and you guys are 576 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 2: the top of that list for me. 577 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, we love you. 578 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 3: You are an absolute angel. You're the brand angel of 579 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 3: all brand angels, and we know you care about like 580 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 3: she cares about animals, she cares about the elderly, she 581 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 3: cares about survivors, like she is just an angel in general. 582 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Yeah, you never expected anything. We're like, 583 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: we'll pay you in jewels. 584 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 2: Jewels, You guys have single handedly restored my entire jewelry box. 585 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: So it is a thanks to you guys. You know what. 586 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 3: I love what you said about using your platform because 587 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 3: circling back to the question where you asked of what 588 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 3: can people do? I feel and it doesn't have to 589 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 3: be like for us, like anybody please be a brand 590 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 3: angel for us. But I feel like using your platform 591 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 3: for good in that way, for whatever social issue you 592 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 3: care about or whatever you want to make a difference in, 593 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 3: is such a huge deal. It's a really beautiful outside 594 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 3: of my self outlook to have on life of Okay, 595 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 3: so if somebody is looking at me, what am I 596 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 3: pointing them to? Am I pointing them more towards more 597 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 3: of me? Or am I trying to make a difference 598 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 3: in the world. So I appreciate that heart and I 599 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 3: feel like that is something that if somebody is looking 600 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 3: for a very easy way to make a difference like 601 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 3: that could be just post something nice for a cause 602 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 3: that you care about, Share something that you've learned that 603 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 3: is helpful, that is meaningful and impactful for somewhere somebody 604 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 3: in the world. 605 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're awesome. 606 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 2: I appreciate that. And that's honestly not even why I 607 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 2: said it. It's more that I just there's so many 608 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 2: people who I also think there's this narrative to where 609 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 2: people are like, well, if you do it for this, 610 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 2: then why don't you do it here or here's the 611 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 2: counterbalance and. 612 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: Take care of this? And I just don't think that's 613 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: what it's about. 614 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 2: I think the coolest part of existing and being a 615 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 2: human is that you get to care about the things 616 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 2: that you care about, and it's up to you to 617 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 2: take care of those things that you do want to 618 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 2: care about. So how are you going to do that? 619 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: Are you going to use your voice? 620 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 2: Are you gonna talk to people about it? Are you 621 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 2: going to scream it from the roofstops? What does that 622 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 2: look like to you? And I think you guys are 623 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 2: also living proof that if you just find a cause 624 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 2: that you're passionate about, you can make changes and you 625 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 2: can do things to support. Trying to fix everything in 626 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: the world is never going to work. So find something 627 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 2: that you care about and focus on that. 628 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's overwhelming too, and that's a really great way 629 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 3: to get burned out, is to try to do everything. 630 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's impossible. Yeah, you can't. 631 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 3: So I feel comfortable and good with that and just 632 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 3: knowing I'm making a difference in this corner of the world, 633 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 3: and when I have a chance to help in other areas, 634 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 3: I absolutely will. But I don't want to get stretched 635 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 3: too thin. Like I've got my family and my own 636 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 3: mental health. If I dig into everything, I think I 637 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 3: would just lose my mind. 638 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: Human trafficking is. 639 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 3: Heavy oren notough fun, and I can't even fix that 640 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 3: by myself, right, Yeah, And I do think that's why 641 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 3: a lot of people don't get involved in stuff, because 642 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 3: it's like, what do I even pick? 643 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: And there's the guilt and the. 644 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 3: Shame of oh man, if I'm not doing this, but 645 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 3: I focus more on this. Now you're just like, feel bad. 646 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: I don't. 647 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you. I don't think people should 648 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 3: feel bad about picking something that they're passionate about and 649 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 3: make a difference in one area is better than not 650 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 3: doing anything at all, and be O okay with that, 651 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 3: be good with I'm helping these people, and I don't know. 652 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 3: I'm like watching my kids watch me, and they're littles. 653 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 3: My oldest is thirteen, So I've explained to him what 654 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 3: human trafficking is a little bit like without all of 655 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 3: the horrifyingness that goes into that. And then like my 656 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 3: seven year old, I'm just I just explained to her 657 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 3: that it's modern day slavery. Mom and Aunt Shannon are 658 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 3: helping people who have been enslaved and we're helping them 659 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 3: be free. 660 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: And that's what does that mean. 661 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,479 Speaker 3: I'm like, picture like the worst job in the whole world, 662 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 3: but like not getting paid for it and never being 663 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 3: able to have fun. 664 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: Ever, that's the ladies that we're working with. And she's 665 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: that's really horrible, Mom, and I'm like, I know, but 666 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: we're going to help change that. 667 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 2: And what a cool thing to pass on to your 668 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 2: kids though, because that's what creates the world that has 669 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 2: more compassion and empathy for people, is when we teach 670 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 2: the kids things that actually matter. And you're teaching them 671 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 2: multiple lessons, not just in those conversations that you're having, 672 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 2: but and also you being the image of someone who 673 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 2: wants to help and wants to make a difference. 674 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, like Jack, my thirteen year old, wants to be 675 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 3: in the NBA, you know, every. 676 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: Naturally, Yeah, and he is very good at basketball. 677 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 3: Honestly, I'm like if anyone can do it, Jack's gonna 678 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 3: pull it off because he is very driven and he 679 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 3: is very good at basketball. And we were driving down 680 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 3: the street the other day and he said, Mom, when 681 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 3: I'm an NBA player, I'm gonna buy a house for 682 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 3: every person that doesn't have a house every because we 683 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 3: drive past people who are on the sidewalk with their signs, 684 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 3: and my kids are that's hard for them. 685 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: They ask questions about that. They want to understand it. 686 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: And Jack just decided what I'm gonna be rich. I'm 687 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: gonna be millionaires. I'm gonna buy you a mansion. I'm 688 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: gonna buy that guy a mansion. 689 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, mansions for everyone. He'll be the NBA Oprah. 690 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 3: But I love that that's his heart because he's that's 691 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 3: where he's at. He's when I have the resources. This 692 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 3: is how I'm gonna make a difference with that. And 693 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 3: I'm like, yep, that's great, baby, and I will fully 694 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 3: support that. 695 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: I want one on the beach, and you need to 696 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: have a wing. Shannon and her dog. No, I'm just 697 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: kidding it. I'm not kidding. 698 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 3: So someday, Jack, when you rewatched this interview with Morgan remembererles. 699 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 2: Just remember all of us when you become a big star. Basically, 700 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 2: I always love to end these interviews with it, whether 701 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 2: it's a piece of advice or motivation or maybe something 702 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 2: we didn't get to that. You guys really feel heavy 703 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 2: on your hearts to share, and I want one from 704 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 2: each of you. So I'm just gonna give you the 705 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 2: floor and you guys go from here. 706 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: Sorry, I love it. Eave it in or edit it out. 707 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: This is the real us. 708 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's just so many things. 709 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. What do we not talk about? 710 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 3: Oh? 711 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: You wanted to talk about this? Yeah, I don't know. 712 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: Do you want us to talk about the post bracelet? 713 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 2: You totally can whatever you It really can be, or 714 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 2: it can be like motivation of how how to keep 715 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 2: moving forward on doing a business like this. Maybe it's 716 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 2: how you keep existing within all of this space. It 717 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 2: can truly be whatever, like you just feel called to 718 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 2: talk about. 719 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: I don't think I helped you in that, but. 720 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 3: No, I'll say, okay, I'm gonna start. You can edit yeah, 721 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 3: so yeah, okay, so can you ask it one more time? 722 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: Yes? Okay. 723 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 2: So I love to end these podcasts, whether it's a 724 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 2: piece of motivation, advice, or something that we maybe didn't 725 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 2: get to, whatever it may be. I just kind of 726 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 2: want to give the floor over to both of you. 727 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 2: You each have to share one, and that's where I'll 728 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 2: leave you. It's totally open ended, so no rules, okay. 729 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 3: One that I just discovered, like within the last year 730 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 3: is that when you're doing like heavy work like this, 731 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 3: you really do have to try to protect your piece 732 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 3: because it is a lot sometimes. And so I talk 733 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 3: to a therapist, and I think that like therapy can 734 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 3: help a lot of people. 735 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 1: I'm not ashamed. 736 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 3: I'm proud that I talk to a therapist and they 737 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 3: help me cope with all the heaviness because it can 738 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 3: become overwhelming and heavy and sometimes it's like we hear 739 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:23,479 Speaker 3: such horrible stories sometimes that it can almost take over 740 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 3: and you just have to remember like there is hope 741 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 3: and just keep going, never give up. And there are 742 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 3: people that you can talk to about stuff like that. 743 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's a great universal one. In general, therapy 744 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,800 Speaker 2: is amazing. Whether you think you need help or you 745 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 2: don't think you need any it's good for all of it. 746 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: So I love that. 747 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 2: That's a good message. 748 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: All right, thank you. I love it. You are awesomes. 749 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 3: I think for me, my encouragement would just be to 750 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 3: believe that you were made for something bigger than yourself. 751 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 3: That anybody can make a difference, doesn't matter who you are, 752 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 3: where you're coming from. 753 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 1: What kind of resources. 754 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 3: You don't have to be an NBA player with multimillion 755 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 3: dollar paycheck. You can start small and take small steps 756 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 3: towards making a difference in whatever area, even if it's 757 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 3: just like a teacher at your kids' school that seems 758 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 3: like she could use extra help, or like classroom supplies, 759 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 3: or just whatever that area is. Take a step and 760 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,320 Speaker 3: don't be surprised when it changes your life, because it will, 761 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 3: and it's going to be for the better. I know 762 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 3: my life has changed, yours is the ladies we're working with. 763 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 3: It is not just a one way thing. The people 764 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 3: that we're working with have absolutely changed who we are 765 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 3: and how we see the world. And I'm forever grateful 766 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 3: for them for the things that we've learned. 767 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, oh that was so good. 768 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 2: Yes, so you get these are both great lessons. See, 769 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 2: this is why I always end on it, because I 770 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 2: can't come back from that. So I loved both of 771 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 2: those and I thought they were great, and I just 772 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 2: want to thank both of you guys for being here 773 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 2: today and sharing your story and talking about these things. 774 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,439 Speaker 2: And if you guys want to go check them out. 775 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 2: Ring true dot Co is their website. 776 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 1: Correct, I nailed that trueco dot com. Dang, it's okay. 777 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 2: So oh so close. 778 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: Hashtag brand angel. 779 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 2: I always copy paste the right thing, but sometimes speak wrong. 780 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 2: But go check them out and also you can follow them. 781 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,240 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna have you guys shout it out instead 782 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 2: of me trying to say this one again on. 783 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,479 Speaker 3: Instagram and Facebook. It's the same thing, right, yes at 784 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:43,240 Speaker 3: Ring True and then underscore Co. Yeah, and also stock 785 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,760 Speaker 3: Morgan's because she's always wearing everything. 786 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,439 Speaker 1: All the jewels are, are we True? Yeah they are. 787 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 1: They always are. 788 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 2: Nearly all of my jewelry is so you can get 789 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,800 Speaker 2: all the collections that I'm wearing on their website. 790 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: And we do even have one. Yeah, we do have 791 00:36:58,719 --> 00:36:59,280 Speaker 1: one together. 792 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 2: We have them more and bracelet which is the strength 793 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 2: Is it still the strength one purple and blue? 794 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 3: Ye? 795 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, so that one we created out of I 796 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 2: just really not only just honoring all of the human 797 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 2: trafficking survivors and their strength to continue moving forward. But 798 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,879 Speaker 2: also strength is such a big factor in my life 799 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 2: and a lot of things that I've gone through and 800 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 2: having the strength to keep moving is so important. So 801 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 2: if you need a reminder of that, that was where 802 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 2: that bracelet was created out of. Yes, thank you both 803 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 2: for being here and I love you both. You're amazing, 804 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 2: keep doing awesome stuff. 805 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: Thank you, love you too. 806 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,839 Speaker 2: I've always loved a company that's purpose driven and they're 807 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 2: trying to make a lasting impact in the world, and 808 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 2: that's exactly what Amanon and Shannon are all about, which 809 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 2: is why I love working with them so much. If 810 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 2: you've ever heard a story or you've talked with your 811 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 2: friends about a particular topic, you're like, why do more 812 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 2: people talk about this? Send it to me because I 813 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 2: am always looking for topics or guests to bring on 814 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 2: and it's important to me that I keep trying to 815 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 2: broaden the width of what we do here with take 816 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 2: this personally, I just want to make that impact in 817 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 2: the world. That's what I'm trying to do here, much 818 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 2: like Shannon and Amanda are trying to do with their business. 819 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 2: So please send things if you ever hear them, and 820 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,760 Speaker 2: make sure to subscribe to the podcast because that helps 821 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 2: me continue to keep doing that. So I love you 822 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 2: guys for being here, and I will chat with you guys. 823 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 2: Next week. We've got other Morgan coming back on to 824 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 2: do some more pop culture conversations, and then we have 825 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 2: a few more new episodes with some of the residents 826 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 2: at Abes Gardens, so you don't want to miss a thing.