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Speaker 1: What's up? This is Ray Saron Jenkins and you're listening

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Speaker 1: to the Chargers Podcast Network. Hey, guys, Chris Hary with

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Speaker 1: you on a week thirteen edition of Chargers Weekly here

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Speaker 1: on the new Chargers Podcast Network. Coming up, we'll get

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Speaker 1: this week's opposing view courtesy of Broncos beat writer Ryan

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Speaker 1: O'Halleran of the Denver Post. Also a bit later, our

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Speaker 1: beat writers roundtable preview Sunday's divisional showdown in the Mile

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Speaker 1: High City. But first, a locker room round up on

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Speaker 1: this Thanksgiving weekend, All right in the locker room with

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Speaker 1: Desmond King as the Chargers five more games to go

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Speaker 1: in the regular season, looking finish this thing strong dis

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Speaker 1: against Broncos. Yeah, definitely. Uh, you know, we want to

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Speaker 1: can do as we only can worry about one game

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Speaker 1: and that's this weekend. You guys played the Broncos earlier

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Speaker 1: us this weekend. Philip Lindsay, what does he bring to

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Speaker 1: But what does Philip Lindsay bring to this offense for

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Speaker 1: the wrong He's an explosive back. He's definitely, I think

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Speaker 1: a boost in the secondary. What you got for Thanksgiving? Man?

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Speaker 1: What's what's an ideal Desimond King thanks Giving play? Look

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Speaker 1: like I'm getting the fourth thing. We're getting sweet potato pie.

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Speaker 1: a good day. Man. Well happy, thanks give it a weekend.

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Speaker 1: Writers Roundtable Week thirteen. Chargers take it on the Broncos

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Speaker 1: in Denver, Jeff Miller, La Times, Gil Menzado, Southern California

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Speaker 1: News Group and Joe Ready making his Round Table debut. Joe,

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00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 1: what was that? Less? Joe? Who? Joe Ready? Baby? I

452
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 1: guess we'll get him. We'll get the kid a shot here, Joe.

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Speaker 1: How are you, sir, doing good? How are you guys

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Speaker 1: doing We're doing good, man, Jeff. We did this at

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Speaker 1: a closet two weeks ago. Right now Again, if this

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Speaker 1: was videotaped, it look a little strange. Right. We're in

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Speaker 1: a We're in a circle of chairs without a table.

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00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: We are, yeah, where there isn't no not even the

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Speaker 1: table isn't round. There isn't a table at all. So

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Speaker 1: Joe is the best chair in the house. Joe's gonna

461
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Speaker 1: Scorsesey director's chair, just over overlording everything. But I think, Jeff,

462
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Speaker 1: when you used to do the round table with Terry

463
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Speaker 1: Smith and the Angels, it wasn't a round table either.

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Speaker 1: It was almost like a straight line in the dugout.

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Speaker 1: It was, and there were a lot of times we

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Speaker 1: did that just standing up there wasn't even a place

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Speaker 1: place to sit. So at least we have shares here,

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00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 1: the Chargers at least give us some word exactly taking

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Speaker 1: care of you guys to an extent. Right, So five

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Speaker 1: weeks left, gentlemen, Chargers of four and seven, coming off

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Speaker 1: a by, we could revisit Mexico City a little bit.

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00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 1: It was a cool experience. It was a game that

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Speaker 1: the Chargers first half two to one in time of possession,

474
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Speaker 1: over three hundred yards of total offense, just nine points

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Speaker 1: to show for it. I think the theme was just

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Speaker 1: turnovers and not being able to punch it in threes

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Speaker 1: not sevens, and that was the problem. Yeah, that was

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Speaker 1: a strange first half. It was a strange game, really,

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00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 1: and it was a very strange first half. They dominated

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Speaker 1: that first half, and I mean there were historical facts

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Speaker 1: in there that have happened very rarely in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: the number of yards they had, in the lack of points,

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Speaker 1: and the fact that they played. You know, they dominated

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Speaker 1: the first half and went to halftime behind, which was

485
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Speaker 1: obviously a deflating sensation for them, and they, to their credit,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they hung around and they had a chance

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Speaker 1: at the end. But it's just it's just been that

488
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 1: kind of season where the players need to be made

489
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,479
Speaker 1: and there we saw this team last year make all

490
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: those plays, and this year they're making very few of them.

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Speaker 1: Say guilt this team last year twelve and four, but

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00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: they played in about it the same amount of close

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Speaker 1: games every single game this year, seven points are less

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Speaker 1: that they've lost by. They just haven't been in on

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00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 1: the right side of it. Yeah, it's been flipped this year.

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Speaker 1: Like you said, a year ago, they were winning games

497
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Speaker 1: and Pittsburgh coming back and coming back in Casey and

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Speaker 1: that game down the stretch of Mexico said, you kind

499
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Speaker 1: of felt like it was going to be Casey at

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Speaker 1: Arrowhead to Part two, Old Lover Again. Not that was

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Speaker 1: a Thursday night. It was a Monday night. You got

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Speaker 1: Phil going down the field, he's throwing up these prayers

503
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Speaker 1: and he finally gets one of Mike Williams. That was

504
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Speaker 1: a great catch, by the way, may one of the

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Speaker 1: best catches of the year. And then you get that

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Speaker 1: reception to kind of you know, on the down type

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Speaker 1: has kind of been the same old story. You're like,

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Speaker 1: you're right there and you just can't find the way

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Speaker 1: to get it done, and I think it's you know,

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00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 1: the frustration must be kind of you know, boiling boiling

511
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: over for the Chargeman because they're right there. Who knows

512
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: what the record would be right now they get some

513
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Speaker 1: of those wins. The bye for these guys probably came

514
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Speaker 1: at the right time to kind of re set here.

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Speaker 1: It was kind of an odd three weeks really because

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Speaker 1: you had a Thursday night game, then you had a

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Speaker 1: Monday night game, then you have a buy so you

518
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Speaker 1: haven't played actually on a Sunday for the last three weeks, Joe.

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Speaker 1: So to get back against an opponent who has some

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00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: uncertainty at the quarterback position, a division opponent you know

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Speaker 1: pretty well, you know, maybe this team can get to

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Speaker 1: five and seven Sunday. Yeah. And I think the other

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Speaker 1: key two is with this season, and Anthony kind of

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Speaker 1: alluded to it earlier in the year. Last year they

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Speaker 1: had Murphy's lawn near side. This year, Murphy's Law is

526
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Speaker 1: kicking their butt up and down, left and right down

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Speaker 1: the field. And I think the the stat that is

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Speaker 1: going to pop out at the end of the year

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Speaker 1: is points at opponents have scored off Chargers turnovers. Defense

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Speaker 1: has played well ninety percent of the time, but when

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Speaker 1: they've needed to get that stop after a turnover, it

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Speaker 1: just has not happened. And I mean it, it'll be

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Speaker 1: interesting to see this team to last five games because

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Speaker 1: I rarely remember a time in the NFL where you've

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Speaker 1: had that mini bye and then you've had the full

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Speaker 1: by with only one game and what like the last

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Speaker 1: twenty one days or something. It just rarely happens. Maybe

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Speaker 1: for a team that was two and fourteen to prior year,

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Speaker 1: they get that break with that with a mini bye

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Speaker 1: and then a bye. But for a team that was

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Speaker 1: supposed to entertain playoff hopes to get to have that

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Speaker 1: fortunate of a schedule break this late in a season,

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Speaker 1: you just rarely see it. I think the last couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks have just reinforced to me just how independent

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00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 1: each season is, right. I mean, you can even look

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Speaker 1: at the team up the street with the Ramps and

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00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh and those guys were in a Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: last year. You lose forty five to six on Monday

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Speaker 1: night in your place. Every single season is different. This

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00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: Chargers team, I think the big thing last year they

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Speaker 1: went stretches of taking care of the football and they

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Speaker 1: turned the ball. They got the ball too, but they

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00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 1: took care of the football on offense. When you have

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00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: you know, and Philip is the first one to admit it,

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00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: you can't have seven interceptions in two games because you

556
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: put your team in a position to where you can't

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00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: win ball games. But just little things and turnovers are

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00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: probably the theme of twenty and nineteen, I think exactly.

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00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: And Joe referenced that a little bit. Is they they're

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Speaker 1: having these turnovers and everybody who thinks this is what

561
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers always does is I understand the fans frustrations

562
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 1: who have seen a lot of this, but he's never

563
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: had seven interceptions and back to back games, and so

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00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: this is like a historic for for him. He's never

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00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: done this, and I think, you know, for that reason,

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Speaker 1: you're seeing a lot of this doubt from outside and

567
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: a lot of people wondering what are we are we

568
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 1: seeing the end of Philip? Is this the beginning of

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00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: the end? Is this? You know? Is this at and

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00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: But the other side of that, like Joe reference, is

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Speaker 1: that they're not taking the ball away and Anthony talked

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00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: about that this week, where they they're giving it away

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00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 1: and they're not taking it away, and if you go

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00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: back to training, can't remember that was going to be

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00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: the thing. There's a lot of that time. We're gonna

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00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: we're gonna get the ball. This year, that was kind

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00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: of an emphasis. I don't know, we'll score on defense. Yeah,

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00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: And I don't know what happened with that other than

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00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: the fact they just haven't produced. But they the defense

580
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: has played well. They've had some bad stretches, they've given

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00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: up some brutal drives at the end of games that

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00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: have lost games, but they have they have. One thing

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00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: they haven't done is they haven't taken the ball away.

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Speaker 1: So if they even if all the journals the Chargers

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00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: have had, if they were getting the ball back in

586
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: in an equal way, it wouldn't look as bad. So

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00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 1: it looks even worse because they aren't producing on the

588
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of things, they're not producing those journals. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of surprised you brought you brought. I don't

590
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: know how to think about. There hasn't been like a

591
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: scooping score or pick six nothing. I haven't been scoring points.

592
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: But the defense, you know, for the most part, has

593
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: been doing their job. They hailed the Kansas City Chiefs.

594
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: The Patrick Mahomes to four punts in the fourth quarter

595
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: they shut them down and in the first quarter, so

596
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: every time Philip Rivers needs one stop to get the

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00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: ball back. The charts delivered on defense, but when it

598
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: comes to the offense, they haven't been scoring. But it

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00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: just kind of feels like, you know, it's like four

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00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: gaining stretches or something. They can't do something. They can't

601
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: run the ball, or they're struggling in the secondary, or

602
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: now they can't pass the ball well. So it just

603
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,959
Speaker 1: seems like they can't put it together this season. And

604
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, Chris, every year is different, and everybody

605
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: just assume this team is going to go back to

606
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: the playoffs and be twelve and four and you get

607
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: Derwin hurt. You know, hopefully it comes back this week,

608
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: but then the injury is piled up and the go

609
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,479
Speaker 1: to goal turnover is you can't run the ball for

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00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: forty yards. It just seems like the perfect storm. Yeah,

611
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: it's the perfect storm of a lot of different things.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Derwin. His loss cannot be overstated. Neither can

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Speaker 1: Adrian Phillips is, especially on special teams and what he

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Speaker 1: does in terms of just being kind of a teacher

615
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: on the field too. He's an extension of the coaching staff,

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Speaker 1: and I know Derwin can attest to just how much

617
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: he learned from Adrian to get those guys back. Perhaps

618
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: at the same time, Sunday is a big boost for

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Speaker 1: this defense, probably a little late. Nonetheless, you can see

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Speaker 1: what this defense looks like with a guy like Darwin

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Speaker 1: James in a second season. Joe, Yeah, because I think

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Speaker 1: the decrease in turnovers and last year they didn't get

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Speaker 1: many turnovers. You don't have a Derwin James. You don't

624
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Speaker 1: have an Adrian Phillips. You don't have a Nissier Adderly,

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Speaker 1: which we saw in net Frisco preseason game, the way

626
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: he could get to get to the ball in basically

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Speaker 1: no time flat. You know they're they're doing a good

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Speaker 1: job rushing to quarterback, but when you don't have the

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Speaker 1: guys in the back end to take advantage of that.

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Speaker 1: And I think we thought the linebackers were going to

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00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: be better as far as getting turnovers and stuff, and

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00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: that hasn't That hasn't happened either that. It just it

633
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: compounds things. And you know that this defense has played

634
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: well in spite of the injuries at secondary, but I

635
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: think the lack of turnovers has been the one thing

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Speaker 1: that has stood out. And I you know too, just

637
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey finally had a big game against the Chargers

638
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: where you know that Kansas City game, you just bang

639
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: your head against the wall further because they were missing receivers,

640
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: they were down to what they're forced string running back

641
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter and they still they still couldn't

642
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: find a way to get it in. But there have

643
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: been many frustrating losses like that this season. You go

644
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: back to Oakland, pick six was basically the difference in

645
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: the end and another interception in the end zone. Yeah.

646
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: I mean you could probably point to every single game

647
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: and there's a turning point, there's a play that could

648
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: have swung that game the other way. I want to

649
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: go back to Philip for just a second because he

650
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: kind of alluded to it today, and I think there's

651
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: a validity to it, Like sometimes we are prisoners of

652
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: the moment, right and we look at Phillip's last two

653
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: games and the seven interceptions and you're like, oh, man,

654
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: well what's going on. But three weeks ago, not just Philip,

655
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: but this team played a complete game all three phases.

656
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: I guess the Green Bay Packers, who by the way,

657
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: are eight and three in the end NC and you

658
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: know we saw them get maybe something about the West

659
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: Coast and the Packers just don't mix. But I think

660
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: sometimes it's easy to do this in this twenty four

661
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: our news cycle in the NFL, where things change so rapidly,

662
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: is to get caught up at what we just saw

663
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: and not look at it as a whole. So I'm

664
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: interested to see how Philip in this offense finished the

665
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: season with five games to go against divisional opponents starting

666
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: with the Broncos. Guys. Yeah, and I think it's gonna

667
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: be very important, and because there is there's some uncertainty

668
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: about where this team's gonna go. Where you know, is

669
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: Philip you know, I think we all would agree that

670
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: we all assume he's going to be here next year

671
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: and they're gonna work this out. But it's you know,

672
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: there's where that seemed like a certainty a month ago.

673
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: Now you're starting to wonder, well, maybe they're thinking otherwise.

674
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: But uh, part of that, I think is everybody wants

675
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: to be up front and be the one that decides

676
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 1: this is it, this is it for rivers, and you know,

677
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: there's this urgency always to bury somebody and we all

678
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: we all do it. It's just that's the way the

679
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: media is is always, you know, I think the media

680
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: has always been that way, but it's even more so

681
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: now given social media and everything else, and there's so

682
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: much media that everybody is piling on the guy. And

683
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, we do see moments that

684
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: you make you wonder, like, what what's happening here is?

685
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: You know, he just doesn't look like you know, last year,

686
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: he looked so good for so long most of the season,

687
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: and this year we just have seen a pretty obvious

688
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: drop off. But it's, you know, it's a difficult situation

689
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: and I think it's you know, it's it's gonna be

690
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: really interesting in the next five weeks how the offense plays,

691
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: how they respond, how Philip responds, and then what that

692
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: means going going into the offseason. I think it's impossible

693
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: to properly dissect and diagnose exactly what has happened because

694
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: I think it's been a combination of things, you know,

695
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: the turnovers, the injuries to the offensive line too. I

696
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: think you have to talk about that with Mike Pouncey

697
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: and Russell Coon, who each played sixteen games last year.

698
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: To not have those guys for a bulk of the

699
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: season is a big deal. To not have Melvin Gordon

700
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: at the start of the year and to kind of

701
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: go through that those four games where you just couldn't

702
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: run the football, all of a sudden, the running game

703
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: was there, but something else wasn't, you know. So it's

704
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: you know again, I'll go back to Baltimore on Monday night.

705
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,240
Speaker 1: You could tell that defense was feeding off the offense

706
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 1: and the special teams and everybody was clicking at the

707
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: same time. And that's what we saw from this team

708
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: last year. For whatever reason, whether it's injuries, whether it's performance,

709
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: whether it's turnovers, that just hasn't necessarily been the case. Yeah,

710
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: And if you look at the stats, Philip errs a

711
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: second in the league in passing yards, so that they're

712
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: moving the ball, he's getting them to the red zone,

713
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: and just when they get to the red zone and

714
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: go to the fishing they can't finish. You know, they're

715
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: right there, and who knows, maybe it's maybe it's a

716
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: very thinking that I don't have time to throw in

717
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: a protection with the Bankdabo Lineley would just throw it

718
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: up there and see who catches it. And also you

719
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: don't have a wide receiver three stepping up be at

720
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: Mike Williams and Canal and the double team and those guys.

721
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: And Hunter Henderson had been a little bit little quiet too.

722
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: But I think Phil also admits he's been missing him

723
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: throw always, even been making poor decisions. He's kind of

724
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: he made it. He was pointing out that's it's a

725
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: difference between a poor throw and a poor decision. I

726
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: think he said he missed to Austin Eckler, who could

727
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: have been could have been the first down. But when

728
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: when you're you need to win and you're playing desperate,

729
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: sometimes you kind of just throw it up there. I

730
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,439
Speaker 1: think that kind of just starts to snowball a little bit.

731
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: But I've just been a season and a lot of

732
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,959
Speaker 1: miss opportunities. Like you go back to that first Denver

733
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 1: game when you were at think they were two and two.

734
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: They just beat Miami, and you see a string of

735
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: games of Denver Pittsburgh. I forgot the other game. I

736
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: think it was a oh it was Miami, Denver and Pittsburgh. Like,

737
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: if you win those three games, in a row. Yeah,

738
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 1: you're back in it. Oh yeah, and you you beat Miami,

739
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 1: but you lose a Denver, you lose a Pittsburgh and

740
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: then I start a snowballing more and more so it

741
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: just feels like a hole. It goes back to Green

742
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 1: Bay too, go like you'd beat Green Bay. Okay, guess what.

743
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: We have the Raiders in Chiefs on deck. If we

744
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: beat the Raiders, we beat the Chiefs, and even losing

745
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: to the Raiders, if you beat the Chiefs you're a

746
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: game back of Kansas City at that point. So there

747
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: has been opportunities they just have not been able to capitalize. Joe. Yeah,

748
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: and I think it's been swashbuckler Phil the whole year,

749
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: but it's been many layers to it because he didn't

750
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: have Melvin the first four games, was relying on the

751
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 1: receivers in Keenan. Keenan finally catches a touchdown pass again

752
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 1: in Case, but he's only receiver with touchdown receptions. I mean,

753
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: Mike Williams has had many. Mike Williams has reminded me

754
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 1: of Tyrrelle Williams last year in terms of the chunk

755
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: catches and everything. But he's not getting into the end zone.

756
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: I think five catches of four at least forty three

757
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: yards the last month, Yeah, Mike Williams, Yeah, the last

758
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: story games, it's been like five catches of forty three

759
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: or more. And it's like, yes, Philips second in the

760
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: league in yards, but he's also second in the league

761
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: and interceptions, which I think nobody's going to catch Jamis

762
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: this year for the interception lead. But it's been many

763
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: layers to the offense because I think when mel came back,

764
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 1: they were trying to get him in and then he

765
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: had some philosophy differences with the offense that you know

766
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: there was to change mid season, but it was almost

767
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: with the way the offense played against Kansas City and

768
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: the play calls, it almost reminded me of that October

769
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: stretch where it was like your face in a defense

770
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: that's the third worst run defense in the league and

771
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: you're not taking advantage of it, even though it's stole

772
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: one score in one possession game. So it was it's

773
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: just been mystifying on a number of levels. But injuries, turnovers,

774
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: it's all in are related. And it's also why this

775
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: is a week to week league. You beat Green Bay,

776
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 1: you think you're back, and then four days later comes

777
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: the loss at Oakland and everything's down in dour again.

778
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 1: It's the reality the NFL guys. We end all round

779
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: table every week. Player to watch Denver Broncos. We'll start

780
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: with Jeff Miller, a player to watch Sunday. You're gonna

781
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: have eyes on woh player to watch. Um, it's hard

782
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 1: to It's hard to go with anywhere other than the quarterback,

783
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 1: isn't it just because it's such a it just feels

784
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 1: like such a big moment and such a defining moment.

785
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: And maybe we're over emphasizing this. Maybe we're not emphasizing

786
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: it enough. I don't know. But it will be interesting

787
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: to see how Philip responds. I mean, he had a

788
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 1: you know, he's had two rough, rough games back to back,

789
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: and this is I think we all would agree this

790
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: is a game that's very winnable. I mean, they they

791
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: should win this game by all rights. That doesn't mean

792
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: they will, obviously not in this league, but I think

793
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: it will. It's gonna be really interesting to see how

794
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: Philip responds. I like the guy. I hope he played

795
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: as well. I mean, it would it'd be nice to

796
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 1: see him, uh come back and put together a nice game,

797
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: and so it's just I have a hard time. I'm

798
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: really interested to see what the rest of you guys say,

799
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,959
Speaker 1: because I don't know where else I would look other

800
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: than and since I went first, I'll take the really

801
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 1: easy one. Yeah, say, I'll go to number seventeen. Gil

802
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: you go second, though, Well obviously I was gonna say

803
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, but Jeff took that one. But I'll go

804
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: with a player who's not technically on the active roster

805
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: right now, and I'm just gonna assume he's gonna play

806
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: as Durwin James. I think, just as a football fan,

807
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: you're excited to see this guy back on the field

808
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: and see what he can do. But again, you got

809
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 1: to realize that they just had he had foot surgery

810
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: three months ago, and I remember Joey boss Is saying

811
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,959
Speaker 1: that he wasn't the right guy, the same guy coming

812
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: off that injury. So I think for Durwin, he's gonna

813
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 1: take some time. But I'm curious to see how much

814
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: he does, how eager he is, what he wants to do,

815
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: but just to see what he could bring to this team,

816
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: and maybe for the charges it could be a nice

817
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: little boost, a little joke for the last five games

818
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:57,919
Speaker 1: and see what you could do with you when James

819
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 1: on the field. But you, Joe, I'm gonna Hunter Henry

820
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: because in that first game against Denver, the Broncos defense

821
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: did a very good job taking away the receivers in

822
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: the intermediate and deep game. Austin Ekeler had the fifteen

823
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: reception game because everything underneath was being open. So with Hunter,

824
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 1: with what he's been able to do, I think he's

825
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: since he's come back averaging aid targets six receptions a game.

826
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 1: Does that open things up to where Philip can take

827
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 1: more of the deep shot and the intermediate in the

828
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: intermediate stuff is open to kind of ompen up this offense.

829
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: And then does that get the run game going too? Yeah,

830
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 1: I think Philip is the answer. Well, of course, that's why.

831
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: That's why jeffs. I think the combination for me of

832
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: Adrian Phillips and Thirtwin James, those two guys from an

833
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: energy and leadership standpoint, how does that affect the defense overall?

834
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: Does it bring a little more confidence, a little more

835
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,439
Speaker 1: swagger to the defense knowing that you have a guy

836
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: like thirty three back there and a guy like Adrian

837
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: Phillips who can really put everybody in places where they

838
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 1: need to be. So how that affects the defense? Maybe

839
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: it leads to an interception, maybe a scoop and score,

840
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: you know, And I think that's what the defense has

841
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: been missing, and just taking the easy way out and

842
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 1: just just taking all your guys as players and wrapping

843
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: them into one Phillip Hunter. Even a guy like Mike Williams.

844
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: Can Mike Williams put together a game that goes beyond

845
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: just one big forty yard catch? Can he put together?

846
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,479
Speaker 1: Can he score a touchdown again? Eleven total touchdowns last year?

847
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: None this year? Can Mike get in the end zone

848
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 1: for the first time in twenty nineteen? Should be interesting? Yeah,

849
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to Derwin. That'll be fun. I hope

850
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: he plays. I hope he's healthy. I mean Gil mentioned

851
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: he looks fine. He looks like he's you know, you

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00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: look at him and they're not doing anything special with

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00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: his foot or anything. He looks great. So it'll be fun.

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00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: Guys can attest to this too. Last year just it

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00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: was just fun to watch him. Oh where he was

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00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: lined up? Where what he was gonna do? Now was

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Speaker 1: where's Waldough kind of thing, like they were moving him

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Speaker 1: all over the place. So it's funny. I was talking

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00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: to Thomas Davis this week and he as I'm talking

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Speaker 1: to him, it occurred to me that he's never played

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Speaker 1: in a game, real game with Drwin so and he

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Speaker 1: was like, yeah, you know, I'm kind of looking forward

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Speaker 1: to seeing it. You know, I've seen him, I've seen

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Speaker 1: it on film. I'm looking forward to doing it being

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Speaker 1: out there myself. So I think they're all looking forward

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Speaker 1: to it. And I think if he is back, he's

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Speaker 1: playing his way. I don't think there's any question it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be. There's gonna be swigger, whatever you want to

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Speaker 1: call it. That they all should feel that him he's

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Speaker 1: he's that good of a player. Well, it's been fun

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Speaker 1: to see because I had the benefit of seeing him

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Speaker 1: in two years at Florida State before before coming out here,

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Speaker 1: that the many different ways they line him up at

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Speaker 1: Florida State has translated to the NFL, and it's been

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Speaker 1: as successful to where you keep going, how did this

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00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 1: guy drop down to the seventeenth overall pick. We'll never

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00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 1: understand it. Yeah, I mean that that'll never be explained.

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00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: It seemed like he was destined for Tampa Bay and

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00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: then Tampa Bay goes in a whole other direction. It's like,

880
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: what are what are you guys doing? And you know,

881
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 1: then he falls a seventeen and just a natural fit

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00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: and everything that, you know, the ability to play as

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00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: a linebacker, to be the edge rusher and all that.

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00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 1: It's been fun to see that translate translate to this.

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00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: And you know, when he had the meniscus injury at

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00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: Florida State as a sophomore, he didn't come back the

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Speaker 1: rest of the season. So the interesting thing for me

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Speaker 1: is how he comes back after an in season injury.

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Speaker 1: All Right, I lied, last question. Favorite Thanksgiving side dish?

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Speaker 1: Gil oh man, you gotta be five seconds or less. Year.

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00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: We gotta go. We gotta go. Everything. I like mac

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00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: and cheese, like stuffing. Everything can't be in a good uh, cornbread,

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00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 1: sage or oyster. Say let's go sweet potatos, sweet potatos.

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Speaker 1: All right, stuffing, It's great every Thanksgiving, gentlemen, you too.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, that's gonna do it for us. A

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Speaker 1: big thanks to all of our guests, and of course

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Speaker 1: thanks to you all for listening. Remember be sure to

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Speaker 1: download and subscribe to the all new Chargers Podcast Network.

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Speaker 1: We're now on Spotify and SoundCloud too, so wherever you

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Speaker 1: Hope everybody had a great Thanksgiving, Enjoy the holiday weekend

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Speaker 1: and the game on Sunday. And until next time, I'm

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Speaker 1: Chris Harey.