WEBVTT - We Three Wednesdays 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:14.200 M M. It's two thirty one a m. On the 0:00:14.280 --> 0:00:33.360 Upper West Side and you're listening to Night Call. Hi everybody, 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:35.360 and welcome to Night Call, a podcast for your strange 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:41.360 days and lonesome nights. Switching it up. Um, I'm Molly 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:44.040 Lambert in Los Angeles, and with me in Los Angeles 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:48.160 as always is Tess Lynch. And over in not New York, 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:54.320 North Carolina, we have yeah and Charlotte, North Carolina. It's 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:59.640 Emily Rashida telecommuning into my night Calls. You've been on 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:01.520 the move. I was just gonna say, I love I 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:05.160 love the Charlotte Hornets for some reason. Really, they were 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:09.000 a very hot basketball team because they were new I 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:11.080 think you know, around the time that we were kids, 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:15.039 and they had this hip like logo and everything, like 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:18.520 the very mischievous looking hornet. I don't know, those sassy 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:22.120 Hornets always that's no good. That was my video game 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:25.160 basketball team for some reason. I've never been there. But 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:29.840 Loyalty Sports Loyalty, it's based in nothing. It's uh, well, 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:32.600 all their sports teams have really nice colors and like 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:35.560 everything gets lit up really pretty in blue when they're 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:38.240 having games here, like when they're having a Panther's game 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:42.640 or something that's that's the football team. So uh, you 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:46.959 know there could be worse colors. Yeah, picking sports allegiances 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:49.400 based on color schemes makes more sense to me than 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:52.680 picking it based on the place you live, because that's dumb. 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:56.160 I mean, I've been lucky, I think, because most of 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:59.440 the places I've ever had any kind of sports allegiance 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:05.040 with the reception. I really I can't stand the Iowa colors. Um, 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:09.799 what are They're black and yellow? So it's like Steelers colors. Um. 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:12.239 It's just like, really it's sort of an ice or. 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:15.760 But other than that, most of the sports teams anywhere 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:19.440 I've lived I've enjoyed. I like a blue colored team. 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:22.440 I like the Seahawks colors a lot of especially once 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:24.320 they got the neon green in the mix. This is 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:27.440 a good icebreaker for us to talk about sports logos sport. 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:30.880 I have a lot of feelings about it. I enjoyed 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:37.440 the Miami Dolphins like era for some reason that color 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:39.200 scheme was. I think I like those new wave of 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:42.160 color schemes. Test you have any feelings about this at all? 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:45.440 I mean no, I'm a Dodger fan, as I feel 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:48.200 like has come up on this, uh this podcast. But 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:52.799 in general, blue like that kind of like medium tone 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:55.320 of blue is a turn off for me for some reason. 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:58.400 Dodger blue, Dodger blue. It's like I've grown fond of 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:00.880 it because I like the Dodgers, but I don't like 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:04.320 that blue. Molly's shirt right now is like it has 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:08.480 more depth, like a darker blue, like a Yankee blue. Well, no, 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:11.120 I really don't like the Yankees because I grew up 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:15.400 with Red Sox parents, so it's sacrilege. Um. Growing up, 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:18.000 I went to a school where our colors were maroon 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:21.480 and gray and we were separated into either maroon or 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:24.400 gray teams. And when I first started school, I was like, 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:27.520 these are awesome colors, Like I think maroon and gray 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:30.200 goes so nicely together and it's like a very kind 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:32.919 of fall festive thing. And then I ended up hating 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:35.960 the school and hating hating the teams, like both the 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:38.440 opposite team and my team. And I was like, you 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:40.640 can't just base it on color. The idea that you 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:43.560 can brand something with a color or like a couple 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:48.280 of colors together so wild. What would your color brand speak? Guys? 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:52.440 I like green and I like it I was a 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:56.800 nightcall logo nightcall logo flag. Yeah, the nightcall flag, I 0:03:56.840 --> 0:04:00.680 would suggest, like a forest green and then nice slate 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:02.920 gray or is that weird? Do they play off each 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:04.400 other kind of off? I feel like we're going to 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:07.520 get really quickly into some like neopaganism, because that's where 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:10.840 we all overlap, because like maybe like some oaken branches 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:13.480 and the green and brown, green and brown, the forest 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:18.679 man coming out to say hello, that's definitely our sigil. 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:22.280 It's the green man um. Barely related to this, by 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:24.640 the way, but I have to visit the corrections dust 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:27.839 from the night Callers group. Yet again, the waffle house 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:30.360 belonging to the South and the waffle house being an 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:33.000 icon of a state Southern nous has been proven false. 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:35.320 You guys, there's a map, kidding, there's a map with 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:38.560 waffle house locations, and it's like, I mean, it's going 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:43.440 to replace our mind map with facts Denver, Arizona, Michigan, Arizona. 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:48.000 I know, you guys, Michigan too ridiculous, So so we 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:50.920 just we stand corrective. Wait, do you're saying waffle house 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:53.040 can get all the way to Arizona but it can't 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:56.560 like keep going on the Oregon Trail long enough to 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:58.800 get to Los Angeles, where I mean they have like 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:02.320 a Canners invade. Guess that doesn't make it a Vegas Frustram. 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:06.520 I think it's in Arizona. Nothing means anything. That just yeah, 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:12.320 that blows the whole theory. Are anti globalist podcast? I 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:17.080 think we've time and again, No, we want waffle house 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:20.680 available to all. I think, yeah, I'm I'm a big 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:23.880 fan of you get the thing where where it's good, Like, 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:26.359 you get the thing that's good where it's good, Like 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:28.599 I don't eat Mexican food if I can't have good 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:31.120 Mexican food. I feel like that was the most Midwestern 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:34.080 sounding you've ever been. That sounds like the way I 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:36.919 would be able to enjoy, like whatever the Midwestern thing is. 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:41.000 That's like cereal with mashed potatoes on it, right, and 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:43.720 everyone's like, this is the thing exactly. I've never really 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:46.320 had a Beignet before, and I'm like waiting to go 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:49.280 to New Orleans to have a Beigner. You know, I'm 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:52.520 that's true. That's the best Beigner. There. Used to be 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:55.320 a really good Beigner truck in Los Angeles called the 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:58.560 beign A truck and it compared to the rest of 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:01.039 the beignets in l A was the aske benn It 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:03.760 was a different kind of like Test and I have 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:07.720 had text conversations that were just about fried dough wonder 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:09.760 what are the best? Because I was going to say 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:11.400 I was like, Bennys are great, but like, yeah, the 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:12.800 fact that you can't get them here it doesn't like 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:15.920 drive me crazy because I'm like, there's other like fried 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:18.600 dough things I can have here, not good donuts though. 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:21.400 I have to be a realist about the l A Donuts. 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:27.760 Donuts sweet guys, too sweet. We need apple fider donuts 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:30.279 and you have to drive really far. You guys like 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:34.320 those weird dry New England donuts. I love a dried don't. 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:39.680 Well come on, now, come on with coffee. Yeah. First 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:42.280 of all, I do not rep for Dunkin Donuts, um. 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:44.440 But the thing I liked about Dunkin Donuts on the 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:46.440 East Coast is that it was open twenty four hours, 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:48.840 which is the number one quality any place can have 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:52.640 to me. Um, but it's not very good. I am 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:54.440 sorry to the Doe. I have to say, I really 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:56.920 I still like that have a fondness for coffee. It 0:06:56.920 --> 0:07:01.000 makes me nostalgic, but it's like it's it's not objectively good. Um, 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:07.000 Crispy Creme is good. No made Crispy Creme. One day 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:09.560 I was just like, I really loved Krispy Creme for 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:11.320 a long time. And then there was a day when 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:13.760 I just went to the Krispy Creme when they were 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:18.080 making the doughnuts, and I sat in my car by 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:21.320 the flickering lights of like a best Buy and was like, 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:23.360 I'm just gonna eat all these donuts because they're great. 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:25.880 And I never had another Crispy Cream again, So I won. 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:29.800 You smoked the whole, the whole donut. I did Colorado 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:34.680 Donuts and Eagle Rock. Okay, it is good, it's hot, Yeah, Leslie, 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:37.680 they are great and reasonably priced on like some other 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:40.240 donut establishments. Yeah, those are pretty good donuts, but they're 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:42.160 still not as good as East Coast Donuts. I don't 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:47.480 know what you're talking about off of those donuts. 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My favorite fried food is a truro Emily. 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:59.800 What were you going to say on the fried food tip? Oh, well, 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:03.199 first of all, if you have any strong opinions, theories, 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:06.680 um conspiracy theories about fried food, you should give us 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:09.080 a night call at one to four or four six 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:11.880 night on the fried food tip. I was just going 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:16.199 to say that I was in Key West, Florida this 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:20.400 last week long weekend, which is uh. I think I 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:22.640 think one of the one of the stronger fried food 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:26.160 h cultures I've ever. Did you eat all of the 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:29.840 fried things that came out of the sea, I did 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:32.760 not I did not have a confritter. That's like kind 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:36.400 of the big local dish there. I've had a conforter 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:39.839 before and I didn't need to repeat the experience. You're 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:43.920 so gross. I'm sorry. I like, I really like clam cakes, 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:46.600 which is basically a conference. I said I was going 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:49.000 to get you to talk about clam cakes on the podcast. 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:54.400 What happened? It's our fried seafood fritters, another subject we 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:58.520 all enjoy talking about, if not eating. Listen, clam cakes 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:00.920 are the best, and you don't them and clam chowder 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:03.560 and it's like the salty donut for the sea. But 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:07.960 for some reason, conk and clam are our cousins. But 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:10.960 they're not more closely related than that. I mean, there's 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:14.480 like a textual difference. Yeah, I agree with Emily the 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:16.400 conquert or you have it once and you're like, I'm good, 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:20.239 that's fine. But we're saying we're like pro other seafood pancakes. 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:22.720 Yeah for sure. Yeah, I like seafood pancakes. I like. 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:25.000 I mean, I'm trying not to eat like the foul 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:31.120 pods anymore, but I do like too smart Yeah, like 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:34.760 octopus pancakes and stuff like that, like it's good, like 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:38.120 like like tago yaki, like the I personally don't have 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:40.760 a taste for octopus, do you know. I don't need 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:43.280 octopus on principle, But I will eat clams for sure. 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:45.160 But I eat eel, which is like just as creepy 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:46.920 if you no, I don't think eels are as smart. 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:50.240 They're not. Yeah, that's true. I'm reading a book actually 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:52.360 right now. Maybe we should have a night called book 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:54.560 club about it because it's actually right up our alley. 0:11:54.640 --> 0:12:00.720 But it's about um octopus's brains, like like their consciousness. Um, 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:03.280 and it's really creepy so far. My mom gave it 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:05.160 to me for my birthday. Thout out to my mom. 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:08.960 I really do like octopus, Like girl, octopus is good, 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:11.320 but I don't know it's so much that it's like 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:13.679 a huge sacrifice for me to not eat it anymore. 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:17.400 But yeah, I didn't actually eat that much through there. 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:21.040 I just watched a lot of people eat fried food. UM. 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:24.200 I was in Key West for the Key West Film Festival, 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:27.760 which they very kindly brought me down for to be 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:31.920 a critic. Uh kind of curating the opening and closing 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:35.600 films there with Justin Chang of Um l a times 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:39.720 and it was fun. I've never been anywhere like that 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:42.120 before in my life, so it was like a very 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:45.320 I was just sort of like walking down Duval Street, 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:48.960 which is like the main like party street. You've never 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:52.679 been to a party a party city I've never been to. Well, 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:56.280 I've never been to New Orleans, as we established, um, 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:58.760 and you know, I guess I've been to like party 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:01.920 cities before, but not in the South. But it's also 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:05.320 like the Keys, which feels like this whole other situation. 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:11.520 Somebody described it to me as libertarian New Orleans, which 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:15.360 kind of tracked as far as I could tell. But 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.760 it is the home of the original Margaritaville, so it's 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:21.400 got that going for it. And it is the home 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:25.800 of was the one time home of Ernest Hemingway. So 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:31.920 I went to go see that asshole's house. Hey, how 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:36.120 are the cats. The cats are amazing. I mean, that's 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:39.840 the reason to go. I highly recommend they all. Yeah, 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:42.560 otherwise known as Hemingway cats. They're all they are all 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:47.480 six toad right. Yes, Um, they're not all. Actually they're 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:49.920 not all, but the majority of them are. I guess 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:53.480 that's a dominant gene, which feels strange, but they're also 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:58.280 so he was given a polydactyl cat um when he 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:01.480 was living there with his family, and it was because 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:04.120 it's like a good luck thing for sailors, because they're 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:08.120 supposed to be for for catching vermin or whatever. The 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:12.880 ship cats. There's a Wikipedia article about most famous ship 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:15.920 cats because there's a bunch of them from like famous 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:18.760 like British warships and stuff. Did they name them or 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:21.080 oh my gosh, share they name them and they take 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:23.040 pictures of them with a little like medals and stuff, 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:27.040 and it's crazy. Um, it's a good Wikipedia hole. Guys. 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:31.800 I like Hemingway too. Wait sorry, you like Hemingway. Well, okay, 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:34.320 here's the thing about this tour. Listen, we've all we've 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:37.520 all read some Hemingway in our day. The thing about 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:41.000 the tour is that it's like not really aimed at 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.840 people who have necessarily read Hemingway, but like people who 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:46.800 have an idea of like, who is it a lot 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:51.359 of hunting trophies. It's like, um, it's less hunting trophies. 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:54.560 It's more just like, well, they definitely have some like 0:14:55.080 --> 0:15:00.360 not lawn jockeys, but that kind of thing U little 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:07.240 like like porcelain sculpture type things are explicitly racist. Yeah, 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:10.360 it's a bummer, um. But in the tour is very 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:15.400 much like about like like playing up the idea that 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:17.560 he's he had these four wives and they were all 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:19.920 fighting over him because he was such a manly man. 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:23.240 But it also like glides over the fact that he 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:26.680 actually had like pretty great taste in women. He's sort 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:30.640 of a um caricature or like has gone down in 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:34.840 history as being this total you know which's mo. He's 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:37.760 a little baby sensitivo. He just loved the cats even 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:39.840 more than the women. And also his mom dressed him 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:42.360 as a girl when he was a baby, like you, oh, 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:45.360 I didn't know that. Yeah, him and also Charles Bronson 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:48.200 like grew up so poor they had to wear their 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:50.680 sisters hand me downs. And I think Ernest Hemingway his 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:53.280 mom specifically was like, I'm going to make you a 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:55.560 pretty girl, baby, And there's pictures of him as a 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:57.760 pretty like a little pretty baby. Had a very you know, 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:00.640 good features, delicate features. So that's yeah. He liked he 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:03.800 liked a mouthy broad and so do we here on 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:07.520 night call. You know what other enjoys the mouthy broad 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:21.640 You've Got Mail. It's changing, guys. Let's take it back 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:24.400 to ninety eight. Molly, did you have you just seen 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:26.040 this movie? Yeah? I just saw You've Got Mail for 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:27.840 the first time, and I suggested to You've Got Mail 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:30.960 podcast because I was like, isn't it also technically a 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:34.560 Thanksgiving and Christmas movie? It's both. It spanned both. That's 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:36.960 that's the way to do it, is like hit them 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:39.000 both well. It was one of those ones that opens 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:41.040 with people being like, I love fall in New York, 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:43.600 and then five minutes later they're like, Christmas tree going up. 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:48.160 It's like, is it like Thanksgiving, Christmas? And New Year's? Maybe? 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:50.200 I don't even remember if it goes to New Year's. 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:52.720 I was rewatching it before I came to the podcast, 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:55.240 but I had to cut it off. I saw it 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:58.280 in the theater. They get Mail, They Get Mail. No, 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:00.720 I've seen it. I've seen it a few times. It's 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:03.200 one of those weird movies for me that I genuinely 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:06.600 loved so much, and as time goes on, I love 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:09.879 it less. I think most people still love it as 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:11.960 much as they did the first time, but for some reason, 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:16.080 it's charms have worn thin. Emily tell us about your 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:19.520 You've Got mail you in the theater? I definitely, I 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:21.800 definitely saw it in theaters, and I think I'm pretty 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:24.119 sure I watched it, like we rented it at some 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:27.399 point afterwards. What is the phrase in it that she 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:31.399 has about Like, does she have a phrase about like 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:34.159 when you meet somebody and like you click or something? 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:35.919 I mean that sounds like we could make up a 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:39.000 bunch of fake Nora aphronisms about Yeah, it's hard is 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:43.240 that Sleepless in Seattle was like right before It's Hard 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:50.159 Time to um? But yeah, I um, I remember I 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:55.280 remember Fox Books being the like evil behemoth and at 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:57.919 that time, I think it was around that time this 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:04.280 eight Okay, Yeah, so my mom was working part time 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:08.919 at a UM at a Barnes and Noble and like 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:11.280 hated it, and it was at this time, like's if 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:14.320 you can imagine a time when Barnes and Noble was 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:18.040 seen as this evil encroaching Yeah, that's what the movie 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:21.280 is about. That. It made me remember Tessa's husband also 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:24.080 worked at Barnes and Noble, worked at the borders, right, Okay, 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:26.480 we all know that chain bookstores were perceived as the 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:28.959 ultimate evil until the point when they drove out all 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:32.640 the indie bookstores and then themselves got driven out by Amazon, 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:36.040 which is the other reason that I'm remembering now is 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:39.080 why I wanted to talk about You've Got right. Yeah, 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:46.080 it's our window into Amazon. This is our globalization episode apparently, Um, 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:48.240 You've Got Mail. I don't know why I watched it, 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:49.639 just because I've never seen it and it was like 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:51.920 on HBO, and I was like, You've got Mail. What's 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:55.080 funny is that I've seen they came together, which I 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:57.760 love and which we all love like a million times, 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:02.040 and not parody. It's literally like a scene for scene 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:04.440 parody if You've Got Mail, which made You've Got Mail 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:09.920 a lot funnier because oh yeah, that's where that comes from. Um, 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:13.920 You've Got Mail has its charms, though. Another dramatic performance 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:17.560 from Dave Chappelle Lean Stars Born, which is also just 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:20.520 so Dave Chappelle is like such a funny person, and 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:23.440 I feel like the casting in this movie is just hilarious. 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:26.640 Like Parker Posey is really great because you you know, 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:28.800 as with any Parker Posy movie, you're like, I would 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:32.920 like to see the movie about this kid exactly, can hear? Yes? 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:37.320 Greg Kennear is amazing with his typewriters. Yeah, yeah, because 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:40.240 he's like he's like a journalist or he's writing for 0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:43.399 some paper and he's like clackity clacking on his typewriter 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:47.520 and he's like, she's from the new generation of computer 0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:51.639 and she's an Apple person. And Tom Hanks's character is 0:19:51.680 --> 0:19:59.239 a mechanism. There was like such rampant product placement in 0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:01.840 this movie obvious, like the war box is like a 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:05.080 pivotal character in the movie of like Starbucks, this new 0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:08.359 thing called star but supposed to like when it was 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:10.520 a hipster thing or something, or it was like a 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:13.879 iconoclastic thing to have a mat I thought, But also 0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:16.280 is it supposed to be with Starbucks at that point 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:18.000 where we're supposed to acknowledge that it was like a 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:20.720 global corporation pushing out all the neighborhood coffee shops. Because 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:23.159 it seems weird, like they just both happen. It's super weird. 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:26.040 It makes no sense with the other politics of the movie. 0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:28.880 The fact that they both are going into Starbucks and 0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:31.919 talking about how like Starbucks defines us as people. And 0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:33.680 I'm like, Meg, what do you do know? I thought 0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:35.359 they were going to have the conversation like on The 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:40.280 Sopranos when when Pauli talks about how they stole espresso 0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:42.399 from the Italians and the Starbucks and they steal all 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:45.680 the stuff off the wall at Starbucks. UM. I thought 0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:47.480 it was gonna be critical, but it is not. They're 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:50.240 just like critical. Oh, I'm a like skinny vanilla latte 0:20:50.400 --> 0:20:53.359 and you're a hazelnut macchiato kind of guy, and like 0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:56.200 that's what we're like. It's also really funny because there 0:20:56.280 --> 0:20:59.400 was an article and Wired I think like right around 0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:01.320 the time it came matter, or maybe even just prior 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:04.000 to when the movie was released, talking about how the 0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:06.520 product blazement was so crazy and I guess that Barnes 0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:09.640 and Noble UM that the producers had gone to Barnes 0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:12.080 and Noble and been like, hey, can we use you, like, 0:21:12.160 --> 0:21:14.639 can we take over your location and use it for 0:21:14.680 --> 0:21:16.919 like Fox and Friends? And they were like, no, is 0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:19.240 that what it's called? No Fox and socks? Fox and 0:21:19.400 --> 0:21:24.840 Friends is a different bookstore. That's bookstore that we don't like. Um, 0:21:24.960 --> 0:21:28.000 but A O L obviously was you know, used in it. 0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:31.119 And Apple IBM, like I think Apple went on the 0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:33.879 record with the Wired um with the Wired writer and 0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:35.960 they were like, yeah, for sure, like we just gave 0:21:35.960 --> 0:21:38.600 her a computer. Apparently Meg Ryan didn't have a computer 0:21:38.920 --> 0:21:42.720 until that movie in real life. And then one eight 0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:46.000 hundred Flowers had like you've got male Bouquet. It was 0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:49.160 just really interesting because like all of these companies were 0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:53.680 so prominently displayed in this movie about like how companies. Yeah, 0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:57.320 it's so weird. It's it's a weird movie. It was. 0:21:57.400 --> 0:22:00.560 It's like a dot com bubble movie. And it's like 0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:04.200 the first time that any of these entities like a 0:22:05.359 --> 0:22:08.359 Flowers or I can't remember dot com showed up and 0:22:08.359 --> 0:22:11.000 if I wouldn't be surprised if it does, like like 0:22:11.080 --> 0:22:13.200 would have a chance to be acknowledged in a movie, 0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:15.000 and it would still be kind of an ad to be. 0:22:15.119 --> 0:22:18.240 Like now, when movies acknowledge I can't I don't know, 0:22:18.359 --> 0:22:20.560 it's always so hackneyed now, but if it's something like 0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:23.760 Snapchat or something, it's always like, oh wow, like they 0:22:23.800 --> 0:22:27.040 acknowledged that Snapchat with a thing or Snapchat played. I 0:22:27.080 --> 0:22:29.840 didn't even realize that there was like Apple product placement 0:22:29.880 --> 0:22:31.600 in this movie because I was just like an old 0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:35.760