Speaker 1: M M. It's two thirty one a m. On the
Speaker 1: Upper West Side and you're listening to Night Call. Hi everybody,
Speaker 1: and welcome to Night Call, a podcast for your strange
Speaker 1: days and lonesome nights. Switching it up. Um, I'm Molly
Speaker 1: Lambert in Los Angeles, and with me in Los Angeles
Speaker 1: as always is Tess Lynch. And over in not New York,
Speaker 1: North Carolina, we have yeah and Charlotte, North Carolina. It's
Speaker 1: Emily Rashida telecommuning into my night Calls. You've been on
Speaker 1: the move. I was just gonna say, I love I
Speaker 1: love the Charlotte Hornets for some reason. Really, they were
Speaker 1: a very hot basketball team because they were new I
Speaker 1: think you know, around the time that we were kids,
Speaker 1: and they had this hip like logo and everything, like
Speaker 1: the very mischievous looking hornet. I don't know, those sassy
Speaker 1: Hornets always that's no good. That was my video game
Speaker 1: basketball team for some reason. I've never been there. But
Speaker 1: Loyalty Sports Loyalty, it's based in nothing. It's uh, well,
Speaker 1: all their sports teams have really nice colors and like
Speaker 1: everything gets lit up really pretty in blue when they're
Speaker 1: having games here, like when they're having a Panther's game
Speaker 1: or something that's that's the football team. So uh, you
Speaker 1: know there could be worse colors. Yeah, picking sports allegiances
Speaker 1: based on color schemes makes more sense to me than
Speaker 1: picking it based on the place you live, because that's dumb.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been lucky, I think, because most of
Speaker 1: the places I've ever had any kind of sports allegiance
Speaker 1: with the reception. I really I can't stand the Iowa colors. Um,
Speaker 1: what are They're black and yellow? So it's like Steelers colors. Um.
Speaker 1: It's just like, really it's sort of an ice or.
Speaker 1: But other than that, most of the sports teams anywhere
Speaker 1: I've lived I've enjoyed. I like a blue colored team.
Speaker 1: I like the Seahawks colors a lot of especially once
Speaker 1: they got the neon green in the mix. This is
Speaker 1: a good icebreaker for us to talk about sports logos sport.
Speaker 1: I have a lot of feelings about it. I enjoyed
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins like era for some reason that color
Speaker 1: scheme was. I think I like those new wave of
Speaker 1: color schemes. Test you have any feelings about this at all?
Speaker 1: I mean no, I'm a Dodger fan, as I feel
Speaker 1: like has come up on this, uh this podcast. But
Speaker 1: in general, blue like that kind of like medium tone
Speaker 1: of blue is a turn off for me for some reason.
Speaker 1: Dodger blue, Dodger blue. It's like I've grown fond of
Speaker 1: it because I like the Dodgers, but I don't like
Speaker 1: that blue. Molly's shirt right now is like it has
Speaker 1: more depth, like a darker blue, like a Yankee blue. Well, no,
Speaker 1: I really don't like the Yankees because I grew up
Speaker 1: with Red Sox parents, so it's sacrilege. Um. Growing up,
Speaker 1: I went to a school where our colors were maroon
Speaker 1: and gray and we were separated into either maroon or
Speaker 1: gray teams. And when I first started school, I was like,
Speaker 1: these are awesome colors, Like I think maroon and gray
Speaker 1: goes so nicely together and it's like a very kind
Speaker 1: of fall festive thing. And then I ended up hating
Speaker 1: the school and hating hating the teams, like both the
Speaker 1: opposite team and my team. And I was like, you
Speaker 1: can't just base it on color. The idea that you
Speaker 1: can brand something with a color or like a couple
Speaker 1: of colors together so wild. What would your color brand speak? Guys?
Speaker 1: I like green and I like it I was a
Speaker 1: nightcall logo nightcall logo flag. Yeah, the nightcall flag, I
Speaker 1: would suggest, like a forest green and then nice slate
Speaker 1: gray or is that weird? Do they play off each
Speaker 1: other kind of off? I feel like we're going to
Speaker 1: get really quickly into some like neopaganism, because that's where
Speaker 1: we all overlap, because like maybe like some oaken branches
Speaker 1: and the green and brown, green and brown, the forest
Speaker 1: man coming out to say hello, that's definitely our sigil.
Speaker 1: It's the green man um. Barely related to this, by
Speaker 1: the way, but I have to visit the corrections dust
Speaker 1: from the night Callers group. Yet again, the waffle house
Speaker 1: belonging to the South and the waffle house being an
Speaker 1: icon of a state Southern nous has been proven false.
Speaker 1: You guys, there's a map, kidding, there's a map with
Speaker 1: waffle house locations, and it's like, I mean, it's going
Speaker 1: to replace our mind map with facts Denver, Arizona, Michigan, Arizona.
Speaker 1: I know, you guys, Michigan too ridiculous, So so we
Speaker 1: just we stand corrective. Wait, do you're saying waffle house
Speaker 1: can get all the way to Arizona but it can't
Speaker 1: like keep going on the Oregon Trail long enough to
Speaker 1: get to Los Angeles, where I mean they have like
Speaker 1: a Canners invade. Guess that doesn't make it a Vegas Frustram.
Speaker 1: I think it's in Arizona. Nothing means anything. That just yeah,
Speaker 1: that blows the whole theory. Are anti globalist podcast? I
Speaker 1: think we've time and again, No, we want waffle house
Speaker 1: available to all. I think, yeah, I'm I'm a big
Speaker 1: fan of you get the thing where where it's good, Like,
Speaker 1: you get the thing that's good where it's good, Like
Speaker 1: I don't eat Mexican food if I can't have good
Speaker 1: Mexican food. I feel like that was the most Midwestern
Speaker 1: sounding you've ever been. That sounds like the way I
Speaker 1: would be able to enjoy, like whatever the Midwestern thing is.
Speaker 1: That's like cereal with mashed potatoes on it, right, and
Speaker 1: everyone's like, this is the thing exactly. I've never really
Speaker 1: had a Beignet before, and I'm like waiting to go
Speaker 1: to New Orleans to have a Beigner. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: that's true. That's the best Beigner. There. Used to be
Speaker 1: a really good Beigner truck in Los Angeles called the
Speaker 1: beign A truck and it compared to the rest of
Speaker 1: the beignets in l A was the aske benn It
Speaker 1: was a different kind of like Test and I have
Speaker 1: had text conversations that were just about fried dough wonder
Speaker 1: what are the best? Because I was going to say
Speaker 1: I was like, Bennys are great, but like, yeah, the
Speaker 1: fact that you can't get them here it doesn't like
Speaker 1: drive me crazy because I'm like, there's other like fried
Speaker 1: dough things I can have here, not good donuts though.
Speaker 1: I have to be a realist about the l A Donuts.
Speaker 1: Donuts sweet guys, too sweet. We need apple fider donuts
Speaker 1: and you have to drive really far. You guys like
Speaker 1: those weird dry New England donuts. I love a dried don't.
Speaker 1: Well come on, now, come on with coffee. Yeah. First
Speaker 1: of all, I do not rep for Dunkin Donuts, um.
Speaker 1: But the thing I liked about Dunkin Donuts on the
Speaker 1: East Coast is that it was open twenty four hours,
Speaker 1: which is the number one quality any place can have
Speaker 1: to me. Um, but it's not very good. I am
Speaker 1: sorry to the Doe. I have to say, I really
Speaker 1: I still like that have a fondness for coffee. It
Speaker 1: makes me nostalgic, but it's like it's it's not objectively good. Um,
Speaker 1: Crispy Creme is good. No made Crispy Creme. One day
Speaker 1: I was just like, I really loved Krispy Creme for
Speaker 1: a long time. And then there was a day when
Speaker 1: I just went to the Krispy Creme when they were
Speaker 1: making the doughnuts, and I sat in my car by
Speaker 1: the flickering lights of like a best Buy and was like,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna eat all these donuts because they're great.
Speaker 1: And I never had another Crispy Cream again, So I won.
Speaker 1: You smoked the whole, the whole donut. I did Colorado
Speaker 1: Donuts and Eagle Rock. Okay, it is good, it's hot, Yeah, Leslie,
Speaker 1: they are great and reasonably priced on like some other
Speaker 1: donut establishments. Yeah, those are pretty good donuts, but they're
Speaker 1: still not as good as East Coast Donuts. I don't
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about off of those donuts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I have a weak constitution when it comes to donuts,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not the biggest fan of donuts in general.
Speaker 1: I usually only go for a donut if it's like,
Speaker 1: oh party, Like what other crazy thing could I do.
Speaker 1: That's why bets are so good is because ben Ye's
Speaker 1: have a ton of powdered sugar, but because it's not
Speaker 1: in glaze form, it's probably less sugar here. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: the diet because it falls on the table as you
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Speaker 1: What were you going to say on the fried food tip? Oh, well,
Speaker 1: first of all, if you have any strong opinions, theories,
Speaker 1: um conspiracy theories about fried food, you should give us
Speaker 1: a night call at one to four or four six
Speaker 1: night on the fried food tip. I was just going
Speaker 1: to say that I was in Key West, Florida this
Speaker 1: last week long weekend, which is uh. I think I
Speaker 1: think one of the one of the stronger fried food
Speaker 1: h cultures I've ever. Did you eat all of the
Speaker 1: fried things that came out of the sea, I did
Speaker 1: not I did not have a confritter. That's like kind
Speaker 1: of the big local dish there. I've had a conforter
Speaker 1: before and I didn't need to repeat the experience. You're
Speaker 1: so gross. I'm sorry. I like, I really like clam cakes,
Speaker 1: which is basically a conference. I said I was going
Speaker 1: to get you to talk about clam cakes on the podcast.
Speaker 1: What happened? It's our fried seafood fritters, another subject we
Speaker 1: all enjoy talking about, if not eating. Listen, clam cakes
Speaker 1: are the best, and you don't them and clam chowder
Speaker 1: and it's like the salty donut for the sea. But
Speaker 1: for some reason, conk and clam are our cousins. But
Speaker 1: they're not more closely related than that. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: like a textual difference. Yeah, I agree with Emily the
Speaker 1: conquert or you have it once and you're like, I'm good,
Speaker 1: that's fine. But we're saying we're like pro other seafood pancakes.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Yeah, I like seafood pancakes. I like.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm trying not to eat like the foul
Speaker 1: pods anymore, but I do like too smart Yeah, like
Speaker 1: octopus pancakes and stuff like that, like it's good, like
Speaker 1: like like tago yaki, like the I personally don't have
Speaker 1: a taste for octopus, do you know. I don't need
Speaker 1: octopus on principle, But I will eat clams for sure.
Speaker 1: But I eat eel, which is like just as creepy
Speaker 1: if you no, I don't think eels are as smart.
Speaker 1: They're not. Yeah, that's true. I'm reading a book actually
Speaker 1: right now. Maybe we should have a night called book
Speaker 1: club about it because it's actually right up our alley.
Speaker 1: But it's about um octopus's brains, like like their consciousness. Um,
Speaker 1: and it's really creepy so far. My mom gave it
Speaker 1: to me for my birthday. Thout out to my mom.
Speaker 1: I really do like octopus, Like girl, octopus is good,
Speaker 1: but I don't know it's so much that it's like
Speaker 1: a huge sacrifice for me to not eat it anymore.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I didn't actually eat that much through there.
Speaker 1: I just watched a lot of people eat fried food. UM.
Speaker 1: I was in Key West for the Key West Film Festival,
Speaker 1: which they very kindly brought me down for to be
Speaker 1: a critic. Uh kind of curating the opening and closing
Speaker 1: films there with Justin Chang of Um l a times
Speaker 1: and it was fun. I've never been anywhere like that
Speaker 1: before in my life, so it was like a very
Speaker 1: I was just sort of like walking down Duval Street,
Speaker 1: which is like the main like party street. You've never
Speaker 1: been to a party a party city I've never been to. Well,
Speaker 1: I've never been to New Orleans, as we established, um,
Speaker 1: and you know, I guess I've been to like party
Speaker 1: cities before, but not in the South. But it's also
Speaker 1: like the Keys, which feels like this whole other situation.
Speaker 1: Somebody described it to me as libertarian New Orleans, which
Speaker 1: kind of tracked as far as I could tell. But
Speaker 1: it is the home of the original Margaritaville, so it's
Speaker 1: got that going for it. And it is the home
Speaker 1: of was the one time home of Ernest Hemingway. So
Speaker 1: I went to go see that asshole's house. Hey, how
Speaker 1: are the cats. The cats are amazing. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: the reason to go. I highly recommend they all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: otherwise known as Hemingway cats. They're all they are all
Speaker 1: six toad right. Yes, Um, they're not all. Actually they're
Speaker 1: not all, but the majority of them are. I guess
Speaker 1: that's a dominant gene, which feels strange, but they're also
Speaker 1: so he was given a polydactyl cat um when he
Speaker 1: was living there with his family, and it was because
Speaker 1: it's like a good luck thing for sailors, because they're
Speaker 1: supposed to be for for catching vermin or whatever. The
Speaker 1: ship cats. There's a Wikipedia article about most famous ship
Speaker 1: cats because there's a bunch of them from like famous
Speaker 1: like British warships and stuff. Did they name them or
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, share they name them and they take
Speaker 1: pictures of them with a little like medals and stuff,
Speaker 1: and it's crazy. Um, it's a good Wikipedia hole. Guys.
Speaker 1: I like Hemingway too. Wait sorry, you like Hemingway. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: here's the thing about this tour. Listen, we've all we've
Speaker 1: all read some Hemingway in our day. The thing about
Speaker 1: the tour is that it's like not really aimed at
Speaker 1: people who have necessarily read Hemingway, but like people who
Speaker 1: have an idea of like, who is it a lot
Speaker 1: of hunting trophies. It's like, um, it's less hunting trophies.
Speaker 1: It's more just like, well, they definitely have some like
Speaker 1: not lawn jockeys, but that kind of thing U little
Speaker 1: like like porcelain sculpture type things are explicitly racist. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a bummer, um. But in the tour is very
Speaker 1: much like about like like playing up the idea that
Speaker 1: he's he had these four wives and they were all
Speaker 1: fighting over him because he was such a manly man.
Speaker 1: But it also like glides over the fact that he
Speaker 1: actually had like pretty great taste in women. He's sort
Speaker 1: of a um caricature or like has gone down in
Speaker 1: history as being this total you know which's mo. He's
Speaker 1: a little baby sensitivo. He just loved the cats even
Speaker 1: more than the women. And also his mom dressed him
Speaker 1: as a girl when he was a baby, like you, oh,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Yeah, him and also Charles Bronson
Speaker 1: like grew up so poor they had to wear their
Speaker 1: sisters hand me downs. And I think Ernest Hemingway his
Speaker 1: mom specifically was like, I'm going to make you a
Speaker 1: pretty girl, baby, And there's pictures of him as a
Speaker 1: pretty like a little pretty baby. Had a very you know,
Speaker 1: good features, delicate features. So that's yeah. He liked he
Speaker 1: liked a mouthy broad and so do we here on
Speaker 1: night call. You know what other enjoys the mouthy broad
Speaker 1: You've Got Mail. It's changing, guys. Let's take it back
Speaker 1: to ninety eight. Molly, did you have you just seen
Speaker 1: this movie? Yeah? I just saw You've Got Mail for
Speaker 1: the first time, and I suggested to You've Got Mail
Speaker 1: podcast because I was like, isn't it also technically a
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving and Christmas movie? It's both. It spanned both. That's
Speaker 1: that's the way to do it, is like hit them
Speaker 1: both well. It was one of those ones that opens
Speaker 1: with people being like, I love fall in New York,
Speaker 1: and then five minutes later they're like, Christmas tree going up.
Speaker 1: It's like, is it like Thanksgiving, Christmas? And New Year's? Maybe?
Speaker 1: I don't even remember if it goes to New Year's.
Speaker 1: I was rewatching it before I came to the podcast,
Speaker 1: but I had to cut it off. I saw it
Speaker 1: in the theater. They get Mail, They Get Mail. No,
Speaker 1: I've seen it. I've seen it a few times. It's
Speaker 1: one of those weird movies for me that I genuinely
Speaker 1: loved so much, and as time goes on, I love
Speaker 1: it less. I think most people still love it as
Speaker 1: much as they did the first time, but for some reason,
Speaker 1: it's charms have worn thin. Emily tell us about your
Speaker 1: You've Got mail you in the theater? I definitely, I
Speaker 1: definitely saw it in theaters, and I think I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure I watched it, like we rented it at some
Speaker 1: point afterwards. What is the phrase in it that she
Speaker 1: has about Like, does she have a phrase about like
Speaker 1: when you meet somebody and like you click or something?
Speaker 1: I mean that sounds like we could make up a
Speaker 1: bunch of fake Nora aphronisms about Yeah, it's hard is
Speaker 1: that Sleepless in Seattle was like right before It's Hard
Speaker 1: Time to um? But yeah, I um, I remember I
Speaker 1: remember Fox Books being the like evil behemoth and at
Speaker 1: that time, I think it was around that time this
Speaker 1: eight Okay, Yeah, so my mom was working part time
Speaker 1: at a UM at a Barnes and Noble and like
Speaker 1: hated it, and it was at this time, like's if
Speaker 1: you can imagine a time when Barnes and Noble was
Speaker 1: seen as this evil encroaching Yeah, that's what the movie
Speaker 1: is about. That. It made me remember Tessa's husband also
Speaker 1: worked at Barnes and Noble, worked at the borders, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: we all know that chain bookstores were perceived as the
Speaker 1: ultimate evil until the point when they drove out all
Speaker 1: the indie bookstores and then themselves got driven out by Amazon,
Speaker 1: which is the other reason that I'm remembering now is
Speaker 1: why I wanted to talk about You've Got right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's our window into Amazon. This is our globalization episode apparently, Um,
Speaker 1: You've Got Mail. I don't know why I watched it,
Speaker 1: just because I've never seen it and it was like
Speaker 1: on HBO, and I was like, You've got Mail. What's
Speaker 1: funny is that I've seen they came together, which I
Speaker 1: love and which we all love like a million times,
Speaker 1: and not parody. It's literally like a scene for scene
Speaker 1: parody if You've Got Mail, which made You've Got Mail
Speaker 1: a lot funnier because oh yeah, that's where that comes from. Um,
Speaker 1: You've Got Mail has its charms, though. Another dramatic performance
Speaker 1: from Dave Chappelle Lean Stars Born, which is also just
Speaker 1: so Dave Chappelle is like such a funny person, and
Speaker 1: I feel like the casting in this movie is just hilarious.
Speaker 1: Like Parker Posey is really great because you you know,
Speaker 1: as with any Parker Posy movie, you're like, I would
Speaker 1: like to see the movie about this kid exactly, can hear? Yes?
Speaker 1: Greg Kennear is amazing with his typewriters. Yeah, yeah, because
Speaker 1: he's like he's like a journalist or he's writing for
Speaker 1: some paper and he's like clackity clacking on his typewriter
Speaker 1: and he's like, she's from the new generation of computer
Speaker 1: and she's an Apple person. And Tom Hanks's character is
Speaker 1: a mechanism. There was like such rampant product placement in
Speaker 1: this movie obvious, like the war box is like a
Speaker 1: pivotal character in the movie of like Starbucks, this new
Speaker 1: thing called star but supposed to like when it was
Speaker 1: a hipster thing or something, or it was like a
Speaker 1: iconoclastic thing to have a mat I thought, But also
Speaker 1: is it supposed to be with Starbucks at that point
Speaker 1: where we're supposed to acknowledge that it was like a
Speaker 1: global corporation pushing out all the neighborhood coffee shops. Because
Speaker 1: it seems weird, like they just both happen. It's super weird.
Speaker 1: It makes no sense with the other politics of the movie.
Speaker 1: The fact that they both are going into Starbucks and
Speaker 1: talking about how like Starbucks defines us as people. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, Meg, what do you do know? I thought
Speaker 1: they were going to have the conversation like on The
Speaker 1: Sopranos when when Pauli talks about how they stole espresso
Speaker 1: from the Italians and the Starbucks and they steal all
Speaker 1: the stuff off the wall at Starbucks. UM. I thought
Speaker 1: it was gonna be critical, but it is not. They're
Speaker 1: just like critical. Oh, I'm a like skinny vanilla latte
Speaker 1: and you're a hazelnut macchiato kind of guy, and like
Speaker 1: that's what we're like. It's also really funny because there
Speaker 1: was an article and Wired I think like right around
Speaker 1: the time it came matter, or maybe even just prior
Speaker 1: to when the movie was released, talking about how the
Speaker 1: product blazement was so crazy and I guess that Barnes
Speaker 1: and Noble UM that the producers had gone to Barnes
Speaker 1: and Noble and been like, hey, can we use you, like,
Speaker 1: can we take over your location and use it for
Speaker 1: like Fox and Friends? And they were like, no, is
Speaker 1: that what it's called? No Fox and socks? Fox and
Speaker 1: Friends is a different bookstore. That's bookstore that we don't like. Um,
Speaker 1: but A O L obviously was you know, used in it.
Speaker 1: And Apple IBM, like I think Apple went on the
Speaker 1: record with the Wired um with the Wired writer and
Speaker 1: they were like, yeah, for sure, like we just gave
Speaker 1: her a computer. Apparently Meg Ryan didn't have a computer
Speaker 1: until that movie in real life. And then one eight
Speaker 1: hundred Flowers had like you've got male Bouquet. It was
Speaker 1: just really interesting because like all of these companies were
Speaker 1: so prominently displayed in this movie about like how companies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so weird. It's it's a weird movie. It was.
Speaker 1: It's like a dot com bubble movie. And it's like
Speaker 1: the first time that any of these entities like a
Speaker 1: Flowers or I can't remember dot com showed up and
Speaker 1: if I wouldn't be surprised if it does, like like
Speaker 1: would have a chance to be acknowledged in a movie,
Speaker 1: and it would still be kind of an ad to be.
Speaker 1: Like now, when movies acknowledge I can't I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's always so hackneyed now, but if it's something like
Speaker 1: Snapchat or something, it's always like, oh wow, like they
Speaker 1: acknowledged that Snapchat with a thing or Snapchat played. I
Speaker 1: didn't even realize that there was like Apple product placement
Speaker 1: in this movie because I was just like an old
Speaker 1: timey computer computers. It's also really funny because at that
Speaker 1: point A O L had sort of a monopoly. I mean,
Speaker 1: it had just pushed out Prodigy a few years before.
Speaker 1: I think. So it's like A O L is this
Speaker 1: like monolith, and they're like, look at how it brings
Speaker 1: people together in this old timey way with it's very
Speaker 1: much about like the Internet brings people together. One of
Speaker 1: the things we always talk about is the idea of
Speaker 1: like brains and jars, no bodies, just brains floating around
Speaker 1: having conversations that lead to love in romance and not fascism. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but now I feel like a lot of you know,
Speaker 1: when people talk about you've got mail, everyone kind of
Speaker 1: acknowledges that it's also like catfishing, you know, so there's
Speaker 1: this like nefarious No, I mean not really, because they
Speaker 1: both agree to be anonymous and also said it was catfishing?
Speaker 1: Is it a cat fishing? Once one of them like
Speaker 1: one of them, I feel like, wait's way too long
Speaker 1: to tell the other one that they know who they
Speaker 1: really are, doesn't yeh, a really long time. And he's
Speaker 1: kind of like fox with her and that part is weird.
Speaker 1: And also you're like, you're going to destroy her business
Speaker 1: like she should not fall in love with you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he does destroy her business, doesn't he. I feel
Speaker 1: like I fell asleep towards the end. See that no
Speaker 1: I did, but I think he does. But it's weird
Speaker 1: because I found a Reddit thread. But a small group
Speaker 1: of people on Reddit and elsewhere we're like. I remember
Speaker 1: her in the Fox and Son's book store at the end,
Speaker 1: reading like a children book in a corner of the
Speaker 1: bookshop that had been dedicated to her, as if it
Speaker 1: were like her own tiny bookstore. But then people were like,
Speaker 1: but it's not. I can't find it anywhere. This is
Speaker 1: what I did, reading a book to kids though at
Speaker 1: the end of that the little shop around the corner. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's like but apparently people were like, but then
Speaker 1: it doesn't end that. I have to watch the end
Speaker 1: of this movie again now to find out what happens.
Speaker 1: I think I was such a film snob. I had
Speaker 1: probably seen the shop around the corner, but was not
Speaker 1: interested in You've Got Me Al. I definitely didn't see
Speaker 1: Sleep Was in Seattle until later on. But we are
Speaker 1: like a pro Nora Ephron for sure. Although singing in
Speaker 1: this movie, if I have to sing with the piano,
Speaker 1: I can there's a lot of singing in many of
Speaker 1: her movies. I think we all like Heartburn probably the most.
Speaker 1: Emily you. Oh, I mean I'm not a huge That's okay.
Speaker 1: Are you a rom com person? I'm not. No, I'm not.
Speaker 1: What do you Where do you fall on Nancy Myers.
Speaker 1: I've seen a few of her movies, and you know,
Speaker 1: I don't think I have any like strong feeling one
Speaker 1: way or another. I'm not as like like I feel
Speaker 1: like some people are super into like you know, cozy
Speaker 1: white women, Christmas stuff, you know, like like I hate
Speaker 1: love actually, yeah, I don't think my love actually. Oh,
Speaker 1: Test is making a face. Look I don't I'm not
Speaker 1: admitting to Test is making a face. I don't want
Speaker 1: to talk about it. It's to the point where like
Speaker 1: there are a lot of things that aren't love actually,
Speaker 1: but you know, have been art directed to look and
Speaker 1: feel like love actually. Well, anything that like purports to
Speaker 1: show people in love falling in love but feels fake
Speaker 1: and artificial is like the worst thing I know that
Speaker 1: you love, like chunking express, which is like a good
Speaker 1: I like everything without like to strip away all the
Speaker 1: conversations and you don't want people to have any meat cutes.
Speaker 1: You just want them to like see each other across
Speaker 1: the room and like a beautiful cigarette, yeah, and then
Speaker 1: be smoking very slowly about them. That. I like that. Also,
Speaker 1: I never really realized how often Joni Mitchell is referenced
Speaker 1: in um like warm holiday movies like River River. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and but also both sides now it's like it's one
Speaker 1: of those things where Carly Simon also Christmas Nora, Well,
Speaker 1: Carly Simon, she did the Hartburn soundtrack, right yeah, and
Speaker 1: that's a good soundtrack, but it's you know, you can't
Speaker 1: revisit it now to taste it's a taste. Well, that's
Speaker 1: the thing. It's a bad soundtrack. But in nineteen everybody
Speaker 1: has things that are like a like freed sweater that
Speaker 1: you like to wear, you know, and that are like
Speaker 1: your own comfort movies that you like to watch over
Speaker 1: and over again. I think there's like a weird pressure
Speaker 1: for everyone to have the same comfort movies sometimes. And
Speaker 1: like if you feel alienated from like you've got mail
Speaker 1: makes me feel nothing, then everyone's like you're heartless, but
Speaker 1: it's like no, no, it's just it's just you've got mail.
Speaker 1: It's got to punch your buttons. It's gotta Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: you've got to feel it in your own way and
Speaker 1: like some movies do that. Can I tell you what
Speaker 1: I really like as a holiday movie that's not a
Speaker 1: holiday movie is Adam's Family Values because of the Chippewa
Speaker 1: that camp chipping a Thanksgiving because it has a Thanksgiving moment,
Speaker 1: but it's also just like a really good, feels like
Speaker 1: between seasons movies. Yeah, and it feels like warm Jammie.
Speaker 1: Somebody's a movie supposed to take place at the end
Speaker 1: of summer, I think, or like over summer because they
Speaker 1: send the kids there at summer camp, but they do
Speaker 1: a Thanksgiving play but it's fine. But also because of
Speaker 1: the Adams family, it's never like a warm sum you know.
Speaker 1: It's like because it's always winter or fall to them.
Speaker 1: So God is the best in them like five times
Speaker 1: in theaters, but most are like these are our cozy
Speaker 1: movies or the family movie, but it's specifically out of
Speaker 1: Stately Values. Was like a better The first one is
Speaker 1: good too, but it's not as good. The second one
Speaker 1: is better, but yeah, it's the ultimate like nineties sequel actually,
Speaker 1: because we're all a bunch of Wednesdays exactly yeah, podcast
Speaker 1: would That's why I saw it. Podcast is like three Wednesdays.
Speaker 1: I just was tweeting about this. But and this kind
Speaker 1: of goes hand in hand also with but I met
Speaker 1: my mom's house in North Carolina, so of course I'm
Speaker 1: like digging through all I was trying to find my
Speaker 1: high school yearbooks. I don't know where they are, but
Speaker 1: instead I found issue of Premier Magazine from yeah, when
Speaker 1: Star Wars was about to come out episode one. Sorry,
Speaker 1: those are like not the new ones at this point
Speaker 1: anymore at all. Um. I owned a lot of magazines
Speaker 1: in that era that had like you and McGregor on
Speaker 1: the cover of them. Oh yeah, no, mine has here
Speaker 1: McGregor on it. But there's like just the cringe eest
Speaker 1: letters to the editor thing because I guess they had
Speaker 1: had like like Christina Ricci had been on the cover
Speaker 1: of the last issue, or they all like be my girlfriend,
Speaker 1: it's so gross my girlfriend, Like men just writing in
Speaker 1: probably like writing a postcard and putting a stamp on
Speaker 1: it to talk about how just blatant comments about her body.
Speaker 1: It's kind of incredible. It made me realize that like
Speaker 1: as much as this, like I'm nostalgic for a simpler
Speaker 1: time and movies and publishing, and yeah, there was a
Speaker 1: lot of bad stuff and it was like supposedly the
Speaker 1: best year film, but yeah, I guess who didn't make
Speaker 1: a lot of movies women. That's why I like, that's
Speaker 1: why you've got Meal is tough, is because I remember
Speaker 1: seeing it and just like being this naive, little like
Speaker 1: optimistic teen on a date at a movie theater seeing
Speaker 1: a heartwarming film about a O L And now I'm like, look,
Speaker 1: everything was bad then, and it's bad now. It's worse now.
Speaker 1: It was bad then. That's why people like those movies,
Speaker 1: because that's not what that makes them think about. The
Speaker 1: nights were so long ago. The nineties were long ago.
Speaker 1: But people need to get over the idea that the
Speaker 1: nineties were like this progressive, amazing were They also weren't
Speaker 1: Emily's right. They should have known better than to run.
Speaker 1: Those letters made me think of like all the you know,
Speaker 1: because I was on like, of course, I was like
Speaker 1: on eight of cool News and stuff, and those are
Speaker 1: all dudes like being really disgusting about women constantly, and
Speaker 1: you know it's uh, it was good and bad. I
Speaker 1: was also on ant Colony cool News. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: to a large extent. I always just just like people
Speaker 1: say crazy things online but they don't mean yeah yeah
Speaker 1: and now because online is not real, it's just a
Speaker 1: playground for people to be ghosties and just kind of
Speaker 1: chat with what Your ID can just live in a
Speaker 1: jar and that will never overflow. Oh, I was just
Speaker 1: because you were talking about being like a kid going
Speaker 1: on a date with you got mail. But I was
Speaker 1: going to ask you, guys, if you could remember the
Speaker 1: movie date you ever went on, what movie it was,
Speaker 1: because I feel like sometimes I can like maybe crossover
Speaker 1: with uh, your cozy movie Cannon. This is a good question.
Speaker 1: I went on. It was like not a double date
Speaker 1: because my friend didn't have a date, so it was
Speaker 1: like I was on a date with also my friend there.
Speaker 1: But I don't remember what we saw because I was
Speaker 1: in such a panic. But then after that, I saw
Speaker 1: Bullets over Broadway was like screening at my high school,
Speaker 1: and I went on a date to see that. Uh,
Speaker 1: but that maybe doesn't count. It was like at school too,
Speaker 1: which is just speaks to like how late it was
Speaker 1: in terms of dating. I'm like, I'll just stay at
Speaker 1: school for my date, and that's fine. I think I
Speaker 1: went on on a morphous group date where like nobody
Speaker 1: was really paired with anybody. It was just like I
Speaker 1: like that, like a blob date. Yeah, it's like see
Speaker 1: what happens guys um And we saw the animal, the
Speaker 1: Rob Schneider. Oh my god. Uh that's my story. And
Speaker 1: this was what like seventh grade, No, like ninth maybe
Speaker 1: when did the It was like whenever the first year
Speaker 1: Survivor after that, because oh yeah, it's co starred Colleen
Speaker 1: from Survivor. Oh and she's fantastic. I love her. The
Speaker 1: movie is about Rob Schneider. He turns into an animal.
Speaker 1: Remember there are all those Rob Schneider turns into something movies.
Speaker 1: Molly is that when you dropped twenty five in quarters
Speaker 1: on the ground. Oh, it's my favorite thing that's ever
Speaker 1: happened that Molly had. How much was it was? He
Speaker 1: was literally like literally in corners that I had in
Speaker 1: like a bucket. She laid a bucket a track to
Speaker 1: bring to Westwood to bring to you her date to
Speaker 1: see the animal. It was a group date. We're also
Speaker 1: going to go to the record store, so you were
Speaker 1: going to records with your bucket of gas. All the
Speaker 1: money I had at all tracks. Why were you collecting
Speaker 1: the quarters? I think it was just like every time
Speaker 1: I got a quarter, I put it in like a
Speaker 1: bucket there one time, one time, while I was on
Speaker 1: the phone with Tests, I made them into dominoes, and
Speaker 1: then I took a picture of it, and the picture
Speaker 1: was on the wall forever? Was this before? After you
Speaker 1: dropped every single one on the floor of a movie
Speaker 1: theater in Westwood in the middle of a movie. Though
Speaker 1: those were the same quarters, I'm saying that I brought
Speaker 1: them to Westwood, just dropped them on the floor, picked
Speaker 1: them all up, and then used them to buy a CD.
Speaker 1: I forget what it was. It might have been like
Speaker 1: the wall. Nice. Okay, it's such a perfect portion. I
Speaker 1: know I'm doing a great story of sounding like a
Speaker 1: champion sex have her Molly, when did you start dating? Um?
Speaker 1: I arranged these quarters and two dominoes. Nothing happened because
Speaker 1: I just cared about my quarters and my Pink Floyd
Speaker 1: double album. I was so obsessed as Molly in high school.
Speaker 1: I've only gotten more obsessed with her. But when this happened,
Speaker 1: it was like the pinnacle of me being like Molly's
Speaker 1: my soul in me. This is amazing. Emily, was your
Speaker 1: Key West trip kind of like a Key of Florida
Speaker 1: big chill for film critics. Um a little bit. There
Speaker 1: were a lot of film critics there, and we kind
Speaker 1: of just like hung out a lot of the stuff
Speaker 1: with stuff we've seen before. But I had to just
Speaker 1: work so much. I didn't get to do that much.
Speaker 1: That's why it seems like film festivals always sound like fun,
Speaker 1: but then everyone's like it's not fun because you're on
Speaker 1: deadline in a hotel lobby on a laptop for like,
Speaker 1: I mean, there are works places to just be sitting
Speaker 1: around on your computer all day. Agreed to deal, but
Speaker 1: I was glad that, Like I was glad that David
Speaker 1: didn't come because they were just betting like me, rushing
Speaker 1: around even though it wasn't that busy with a film festival.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, but I did, like rent a
Speaker 1: bike and I biked down to the southernmost point of
Speaker 1: the United States. Was this your first like spring Breakers,
Speaker 1: your first true spring Breakers experience springs? I guess that
Speaker 1: is like harmony Create was literally there, like he got
Speaker 1: some special award for being like a Florida filmmakers. I
Speaker 1: love Key West. I do. I'm not Florida's is a
Speaker 1: mixed bag, but Key West, I think is. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, it's definitely beautiful. It's definitely like there's chickens everywhere.
Speaker 1: It's amazing chickens. Chickens live too long? What sorry, it's true.
Speaker 1: We I mean, we've discussed this before. How like animals
Speaker 1: have you know, like like the most heartbeats or some Yeah,
Speaker 1: they get too many heartbeats. And like, honestly, the more
Speaker 1: I I for a time considered getting a couple of
Speaker 1: chickens because I eat a lot of eggs and I
Speaker 1: like having animals that live in my house, I was like,
Speaker 1: why not I have a little backyard space. And then
Speaker 1: the more people I talked to, the more I was like,
Speaker 1: now I'm not down for like ten years of having
Speaker 1: a chicken. Because also a friend of mine had a
Speaker 1: bunch of chickens and two of them were very bonded.
Speaker 1: One of them died tragically young, and then the other
Speaker 1: one wouldn't trust anyone after that and became like a
Speaker 1: really mean chicken. But because she had suffered the loss
Speaker 1: of her kind friend, they were like, we're not gonna
Speaker 1: get rid of her or eat her or re home
Speaker 1: her or whatever. She's been through enough so they's kept
Speaker 1: her around. But she's like just a really mean chicken
Speaker 1: and now she's going to live to be really old.
Speaker 1: But would you have a tortoise? I have, and I
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Speaker 1: I wanted to talk briefly because we're talking about behemoths
Speaker 1: taking over the little guy. So Amazon is moving into
Speaker 1: New York. I actually read two opposing views. Justin Davidson
Speaker 1: at New York Magazine and then the New Yorker had
Speaker 1: very Justin Davidson at New York Magazine was saying, like,
Speaker 1: everyone is freaking out, but it's really not that bad. Um.
Speaker 1: I mean, he still was like, it's not great, but
Speaker 1: it's not that bad. But then the New Yorker took
Speaker 1: kind of or dim view. What do you guys think, Oh,
Speaker 1: it's bad, it's all bad, bad, um bad. I mean
Speaker 1: it's interesting because it's actually like the way that this
Speaker 1: Amazon bid works is so similar to the way that
Speaker 1: the Olympics. It's this thing of like you know, it's
Speaker 1: literally it's like the monorail. It's like, you know, they
Speaker 1: come to every town and they promise all this stuff,
Speaker 1: and they're like, now have a bidding more for who
Speaker 1: gets this great thing that's gonna like reinvigorate this economy
Speaker 1: that doesn't need it. Um. And then that's the thing
Speaker 1: is that it's like all these second tier American cities
Speaker 1: were like prostrating themselves at the feet of just Jeff
Speaker 1: Bezos to like get these jobs. Put it in put
Speaker 1: it in Cleveland or whatever, right, or like not even Cleveland,
Speaker 1: just like some rust belt city that like really actually
Speaker 1: needs any kind of industry. This is so like it
Speaker 1: was always going to go to a big city, um,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna just displace people that live there already.
Speaker 1: That's what's going to happen. It's bad. It is so
Speaker 1: much like the Olympics. Hours after was announced that the
Speaker 1: bit like it was official and that they were splitting
Speaker 1: it between Washington and Queens, there were like reports like
Speaker 1: in the Wall Street Journal of just like people buying
Speaker 1: condos up just like yeah, in a slight argument when
Speaker 1: the friend of the pot. I won't name who was like,
Speaker 1: but it was good for Seattle, and I was like,
Speaker 1: for who it was not good for Seattle, Like people
Speaker 1: that already lived in Seattle. It was like another place
Speaker 1: for tech bros to colonize. I think I would wonder
Speaker 1: what Seattle's like kind of Actually no, I wouldn't, because
Speaker 1: Seattle is just like laid out in such a way
Speaker 1: that I think it's easy for it's it's downtown to
Speaker 1: stay like relatively thriving and be a place with like
Speaker 1: lots of foot traffic in a place where people like
Speaker 1: they shown that they're not interested in like investing back
Speaker 1: into the places like that was the thing that Seattle
Speaker 1: was that there was like this one percent tax or
Speaker 1: something that they wanted to have for the homeless in Seattle,
Speaker 1: and Jeff Bezos refused it, you know, refused to pay it.
Speaker 1: And it was like, why would you refuse it? It's
Speaker 1: like the least you can do is look like you
Speaker 1: give a fuck. You have so much money. We all
Speaker 1: know that you have so much money. You don't know
Speaker 1: what to spend it on. And you're building like a
Speaker 1: murder house full of like corridors that go nowhere. Because
Speaker 1: you're like, what should I even spend it on? Everybody's
Speaker 1: like spend it on like social issues if you if
Speaker 1: like like nobody cares if you have money if you're
Speaker 1: gonna just I don't know, it's bad. They're just so
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's more anecdotal the way that I
Speaker 1: because I didn't really like I didn't seem like my
Speaker 1: own property or anything in Seattle, and like I didn't
Speaker 1: really experience all this in that way, but I just
Speaker 1: I remember feeling just this market sense of coming back
Speaker 1: to Seattle after having lived there as a kid, and
Speaker 1: just like people were just grumpier there and there was
Speaker 1: just like a I don't know, it just felt like
Speaker 1: the vibe was off there. And there are a lot
Speaker 1: of good things about Seattle, like I do think it
Speaker 1: does have like it's one of the best cities for
Speaker 1: just like being out on the town in and walking
Speaker 1: around in like you can do a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: But I thought grumpiness was the vibe and that's why gung. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's like a more San Francisco grumpiness. Like I
Speaker 1: I every time I would go to San Francisco be
Speaker 1: so turned off by how stick up there ask people
Speaker 1: were like it plays love New York. Then oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I love New York and we've talked, but um, but
Speaker 1: the I mean, there was a big homeless problem in
Speaker 1: Seattle when I was a kid, and and it's still there.
Speaker 1: It hasn't gone away despite how like rich and thriving
Speaker 1: or whatever, and putting this in New York finger quotes,
Speaker 1: you can't see Seattle is like they just you know,
Speaker 1: it's same as l A. They just shunt the homeless
Speaker 1: people like throw this out right, like who is it
Speaker 1: profitable for? If it's only profitable for the rich people
Speaker 1: that are already making money, Like why should anyone else
Speaker 1: care support it? We're not like stoked for people to
Speaker 1: like do that. It's also hard when it's like it'll
Speaker 1: create all of these jobs, when we know that so
Speaker 1: many of those jobs are not desirable jobs to have
Speaker 1: and they're not going to be hiring necessarily in Queens
Speaker 1: like they're they're going to be right next to a
Speaker 1: housing project, and I I would love to see the
Speaker 1: numbers on how many unemployed people who live in these
Speaker 1: housing projects that are right like who could literally probably
Speaker 1: walk across the street and go to work there because
Speaker 1: none of them not have to take the broken subway
Speaker 1: that they weren't fixed, right, and like none of none
Speaker 1: of these are structured as being social projects in any way,
Speaker 1: And I feel like maybe people are finally starting to
Speaker 1: reject that and to be like, oh I cannot Colin
Speaker 1: Jos sorry, I just keep like scoffing during this time.
Speaker 1: Um yeah, like not like smug dick bags for whom
Speaker 1: it's not going to have any effect anyway. It's like
Speaker 1: very much the arguments I have with people about the Olympics.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, well, I can't wait to like drive
Speaker 1: through the city with no traffic and it's like cool. Well,
Speaker 1: like also, people are going to be arrested so that
Speaker 1: they can like sweep the streets, you know of like encampments.
Speaker 1: They're going to do a lot of funked up ship
Speaker 1: and displace people, and everybody should be outraged about that happening.
Speaker 1: It's not like Long Island City like needs Amazon. And
Speaker 1: the New Yorker I thought something that they pointed out.
Speaker 1: There's something very unsettling. I think they called it a
Speaker 1: game show quality of the bidding. Well, that's again like
Speaker 1: the Olympic, that's the thing, and you know where it
Speaker 1: all comes from us from the World's Fair, Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: which also was like a traveling carnival, and like, well,
Speaker 1: there's also just the disconnect between elected officials being very
Speaker 1: enthusiastic about this and then when there's a public outcry,
Speaker 1: it shows you, you know, how how little we're kind
Speaker 1: of understood sometimes by our representatives. I think that in
Speaker 1: l A that's been very very evident, especially recently with
Speaker 1: um Garciti not being here very much and really failing
Speaker 1: to solve you know, these like horrifying critical crises and
Speaker 1: focusing so much on the Olympics and so much on
Speaker 1: you know, the kind of quote unquote bigger picture of
Speaker 1: his own ambitions. It's tremendously unsettling. There might be benefits
Speaker 1: to Amazon coming to New York, of course, but they're
Speaker 1: so outweighed by, you know, the cost that it's like,
Speaker 1: unless Amazon itself is radically restructured, wouldn't that be nice?
Speaker 1: I think that that's like the new line is like, well,
Speaker 1: obviously Amazon is too big to ever go down, so
Speaker 1: what if we just make it a social life. No.
Speaker 1: I liked that you were like, stop using it. Like also,
Speaker 1: I started to think a lot about the fact that
Speaker 1: it's named Amazon, and be like, that's so fucked up.
Speaker 1: I never really thought about it that hard before, but
Speaker 1: it's so like a gear a the wrath of God
Speaker 1: like over here to just like pillage the existing environment
Speaker 1: of like all resources and hopefully die of madness on
Speaker 1: like a ship. I remember early on when I started
Speaker 1: using Amazon, it was like, it's curious that there's no
Speaker 1: way to make this an appealing shopping experience, Like people
Speaker 1: don't really talk about much, but it's so unappealing. I
Speaker 1: also think it's like we all thought we wanted every
Speaker 1: access to everything all the time, but that's not actually
Speaker 1: what anyone wants. I've been talking about this a lot recently.
Speaker 1: I feel like, in terms of being able to like
Speaker 1: watch anything at any time, like people like it to
Speaker 1: be a little curated for them, And that's what people
Speaker 1: liked about Fast so much. Is it's like here's someone
Speaker 1: telling you, like what to watch that actually like has
Speaker 1: an opinion and can give you good suggestions. But I
Speaker 1: also understand the necessity of like a lot of people
Speaker 1: can't just forego Amazon, and I get that, like there
Speaker 1: are things that I can only get on you know
Speaker 1: that I I need to rely on it and and
Speaker 1: I don't That's the thing is, I don't know, just
Speaker 1: getting obscure things. I mean, especially like there are like
Speaker 1: medical supplies that are impossible to find and on Amazon
Speaker 1: they're like pretty cheap. Like you know, if you have kids,
Speaker 1: there are certain things that you can only find on Amazon.
Speaker 1: I also remember my parents like just talking about Christmas
Speaker 1: shopping for me when I was a kid, and how
Speaker 1: like they would, you know, months in advance and it
Speaker 1: was out and oh no and dada. And so there's
Speaker 1: like a certain amount of the ease being like a
Speaker 1: real need, and then there's the ease where it just
Speaker 1: ends up being a ton of stuff and you're part
Speaker 1: of this horrible corporation. Do you feel like garbage? I mean,
Speaker 1: I think that the availability of everything is one thing,
Speaker 1: and that's kind of you know, maybe a little bit
Speaker 1: more of a philosophical conundrum, but I think that it's
Speaker 1: just the it's more the working practices that I yeah,
Speaker 1: they couldn't look to pay people well and right and
Speaker 1: and the whole like they're you know, they're really trying
Speaker 1: to get out completely abusing um any of these career
Speaker 1: services or usps or anything and just rely solely on
Speaker 1: their weird little like totally depressing like uber fleet of
Speaker 1: drivers whould bring around packages. I mean this was this
Speaker 1: was actually my last straw with Amazon. Well, and they
Speaker 1: want to replace those people with robot pots and we
Speaker 1: all know it right. Well, so it's like this weird
Speaker 1: holdover where it's like, oh cool, get a job with
Speaker 1: Amazon where you can like drive your own car and
Speaker 1: pay for your own gas, go take packages around to people.
Speaker 1: And you won't even get to keep that job for
Speaker 1: probably more than a year or two. But in some
Speaker 1: weird way, it feels like the beginning of like the
Speaker 1: factory era. It's like industrialization of just this idea of
Speaker 1: like giant factories full of people like working in terrible
Speaker 1: conditions that are like supposed to just be happy to
Speaker 1: have any job. And then these like robber baron rich
Speaker 1: guys wearing stupid vests and making flying cars and ship
Speaker 1: that won't even pay those people a living wage. And
Speaker 1: we have like a zillion up to Sinclair's you know,
Speaker 1: like reporting on this stuff. But you know, I feel
Speaker 1: like everybody is so so driven by convenience now that
Speaker 1: you can even read one of those things and recognize
Speaker 1: that there's bad stuff going on and still not be
Speaker 1: incentivized enough to change your habits or anything or try
Speaker 1: to find alternatives or even just like lesson. My last
Speaker 1: Amazon purchase was during my wedding, which is of course
Speaker 1: like the thing where you're trying to just go for
Speaker 1: convenience and cheapness at all costs because you have to
Speaker 1: like throw a party for people, like give me those
Speaker 1: tiny hats. Yeah, well I but yeah that I I
Speaker 1: had ordered all this like fake greenery that was you know,
Speaker 1: if you rated well, but was being you know, you know,
Speaker 1: obviously shipped from China. From what it's like they all
Speaker 1: have these really apocalyptic names, all these like Chinese manufactured places.
Speaker 1: They're kind of like what's the thing where it's like
Speaker 1: the two words portmanteaus but like a few words you
Speaker 1: couldn't figure out what what the original words would have been.
Speaker 1: And they were delivered to my mom's house here in Charlotte,
Speaker 1: and um, this woman came up and just like like
Speaker 1: she looked like she was on her way to go
Speaker 1: pick up her kids from daycare or something. Um like
Speaker 1: she had her kids car seat in the back like
Speaker 1: I've and and seeing one of these um delivery people
Speaker 1: before because we don't have them in New York. But
Speaker 1: I was so immediately started asking her questions and and yeah,
Speaker 1: she told me like she had to pay for her
Speaker 1: own milege and everything and um and her own car repairs,
Speaker 1: like none of that was covered and and and was
Speaker 1: oftentimes didn't know where to go because she's not you know,
Speaker 1: a trained delivery person who knows the neighborhood or the
Speaker 1: city that she's working in. She's just like relying on
Speaker 1: Google Maps to figure out everything. And that sounds really dystopian. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's super dystopian. I was, you know, I'd read about it,
Speaker 1: but then I think to like actually talk to somebody
Speaker 1: who was doing that. Was it really kind of was
Speaker 1: the last straw for me. So once I was done,
Speaker 1: you know, being a part of the wedding industrial complex,
Speaker 1: I I was like, no more Amazon. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I think I think obviously and that call we endorse
Speaker 1: no ethical consumption under capitalism, but sometimes you can't avoid it. Look,
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, I would have quit using
Speaker 1: Amazon except they discontinued. I can't find my dogs dog
Speaker 1: food relying on if only pets dot Com had made it,
Speaker 1: I know, Well, actually I should say, this is not
Speaker 1: even spa con because we're not running an ad for
Speaker 1: them today. But bark Box weirdly has uh, the only
Speaker 1: dog treats my dog has ever liked, which I'm really
Speaker 1: grateful for us. So maybe I can like find stuff
Speaker 1: on bark Box that she'll eat. But she has all
Speaker 1: these weird allergies. And she had this dog food that
Speaker 1: was called like Simple Solutions and it had like two
Speaker 1: things in it, and then the fucking pet stores didn't
Speaker 1: carry it anymore, and we were getting them to special order,
Speaker 1: but they'd only special orders. Fascinating Amazon. Here's what I'm
Speaker 1: going to say, we all need to start making our
Speaker 1: own dog food. Yes, yes, in some level, I'm like,
Speaker 1: wouldn't it be cool if we did know how to
Speaker 1: do more things ourselves and weren't so reliant on having
Speaker 1: to buy everything? Well? Hey, speaking of making things yourselves,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, A while ago, we wrapped up the saga
Speaker 1: of a friend of the podcast who had made a
Speaker 1: morally complicated we g board we job board we g
Speaker 1: board who knows spirit board Apparently spirit board the term
Speaker 1: if it's not Brandon. But we have a call that
Speaker 1: might solve our woodworkers problem. So we thought we would
Speaker 1: check in. Hey, my name's Andrew. There is a traveling
Speaker 1: Museum of the Paranormal. And my understanding is that, um,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a husband and wife who run it. Um.
Speaker 1: She is I believe, a medium or some kind of psychic. Um. No,
Speaker 1: she's a witch. She is like a wicked witch. And
Speaker 1: he is just like, I don't know, he's a fucking
Speaker 1: husband whatever. I think he's also like a journalist, but
Speaker 1: not whatever. The point is they have a Traveling Museum
Speaker 1: of the Paranormal UM, and they have all kinds of
Speaker 1: haunted and cursed projects. So when there is some kind
Speaker 1: of concern, UM, people can call them uh and come
Speaker 1: by to take a look figure out what the deal is.
Speaker 1: So I think that if they were willing to, um,
Speaker 1: you know, like swing by and potentially pony up a little,
Speaker 1: that UM traveling the Team of the Paranormal would be
Speaker 1: a great home for the Murder Board. So I just
Speaker 1: wanted to throw that out there. Uh, And also to
Speaker 1: say that every time you guys say murder Board, I
Speaker 1: think of the late great NBC sitcom Trial and Error,
Speaker 1: which was good, and UM, that's all right, thanks. I
Speaker 1: haven't seen Trial and Error but I've heard some really
Speaker 1: intense support for trial and error. Now I want to
Speaker 1: see trial and error. Yeah, it's a parody of the Staircase.
Speaker 1: Oh is it? And making a murderer? Is it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's already gone. Their stands to standalone seasons. The first
Speaker 1: one I think was John liftgow as the accused murderer,
Speaker 1: and the second one was Christian Chenowes. Awesome. Then they
Speaker 1: canceled it and people were like, this is a great format.
Speaker 1: Every season is like a new murder case. Well this
Speaker 1: is This was a great night call because now we
Speaker 1: have a potential topic for the future, which is trial
Speaker 1: and error, as well as a solution to the murder
Speaker 1: board problem. I had heard about the museum, the Traveling
Speaker 1: Museum of the Paranormal, from another podcast I went on
Speaker 1: called Bizarre States. I think they had done something with them,
Speaker 1: but seems seems like a great idea, seems like a
Speaker 1: I think this is I think it solves it. I
Speaker 1: think that's like this was all meant to be, because
Speaker 1: that would be the perfect ending to this story. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this also seems like the more wholesome of the paranormal museums.
Speaker 1: I looked into some of them, there are a bunch
Speaker 1: of like that Black Mirror episode, the Black Museum with
Speaker 1: the creepy artifacts. There are a bunch of museums like that.
Speaker 1: It turns out, um one of them is here is
Speaker 1: called the Museum of Death, and we've talked about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but there's one in Las Vegas also that's like a
Speaker 1: museum of the haunted, and it has apparently the world's
Speaker 1: most haunted box that is called the Diibic Box. Oh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was the story that post Malone touched it. Yes, no,
Speaker 1: I I got so deep and then got haunted. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because then a bunch of backs. When was that when
Speaker 1: the plane thing happened? This five bad things happened to him?
Speaker 1: Right afterwards there was the planet plane crash. Did he
Speaker 1: touch it at the museum or did it end up
Speaker 1: in the museum After he touched it at the museum,
Speaker 1: he went to the museum. The guy who runs that
Speaker 1: museum is a real like mystery the pickup artist kind
Speaker 1: of looking magician guy who's like Vegas, Yeah, very Vegas.
Speaker 1: And he like brought post Malone there on a tour
Speaker 1: and totalone touched it and then he had like almost
Speaker 1: a car accident. The plane accident. Don't touch haunted boxing.
Speaker 1: Give them to the traveling museums instead. Let the professionals
Speaker 1: handle it. Donate them to an educational institution. Here we go,
Speaker 1: you guys. I think that's all we have time for today.
Speaker 1: As crazy as that is. Well, we got a lot
Speaker 1: of mail to You've got You've got male WHOA that
Speaker 1: was amazing? Than you can do it again? Got mail.
Speaker 1: It's it's that little it's the nostalgia button in the
Speaker 1: instant message sound definitely does some weird Pablovian things. I'm
Speaker 1: nostalgia for it. On the A O L. There was
Speaker 1: something very good waiting for see. I can just take
Speaker 1: this on the road. This is my is my only
Speaker 1: time to make you do this at the live show,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna make you do the quarters. Yes, all right,
Speaker 1: you guys, Okay, if you have a question, a story,
Speaker 1: uh some conspiracy or mystery you want to get to
Speaker 1: the bottom up, please give us a call at too
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